@@DLS_MFG done that. Lol. They wanted faster faster so I gave it faster till the cutter glowed red and just kinda melted in with material. Great stress reliever
Yes! I love seeing these little tricks that few know about, I've used this trick in more than a couple pinches. I made a custom tool steel angled end mill for a phenolic resin job we had a while back while our lathe was down by tilting the head of a Bridgeport EZ-TRAK mill to the angle I needed and cut the outer circumference with a cutter clamped in the vice, then popped it into a rotary indexer on another mill and cut two straight flutes into the sides, and finally put it back in the angled Bridgeport head and used the Z axis to broach the outsides of the cutter for relief behind the cutting edge. I had taken it upon myself to make the cutter without telling my bosses, they were in a meeting scratching their heads about how they were going to get a custom cutter made quickly enough to get the parts out on time, and after I had heat treated and sharpened it to a razors edge I walked into their meeting and set the cutter in from of my boss and told him I just delivered them from their pickle, who then looked at me like I was Jesus Christ walking on water (I was a new guy lol), needless to say I got a raise that day🤣.
@@tickandslug the lathe is missing one axis compared to the milling machine, thus making it a lot harder to mill on a 2 axis lathe than to turn on a mill.
I've done this for years and years on my cnc vmc's & manual machines. Of course the 1st go to was my lathes but when tied up and getting a job done, it works just fine. Can also do some quick threading as well when needed.... Father Time has decided it was my turn to age so while I Patina I now just putz around in the garage with a few manuals keeping the rust off them. Great content, brings back memories of Purchase Orders...
I had a charging handle for a Mac 11 that didn't fit my bolt. Took it to work and I was going to stick it on the lathe. Old timer said "lemme see that" and before I knew it he had it in a collet on his knee mill and had it skimmed down to fit perfectly
So a mill is more versatile than a lathe? I've been asking that question for 2 years now, once I saw you can mill flat parts on a lathe I thought that's the way to go but now I'm not sure.
@@TITANSofCNC would do wonders for efficiency if it could be set up with one piece of stock in the machine and multiple tools bolted to the bed, so that it can do multiple operations with the same program. Spacing and zeroing would be the only issue there
Sweet! Knurling didn't look properly formed though. I always look for a well formed base and sharp peak with clean valleys and walls. That last pass with the cutting tool , I've seen that done recently. What is that for? Does it not remove the sharp peaks that make knurling useful?
Wow, I haven’t seen that done in 30 years. Glad to see it again. No we didn’t fill the tool changer with preset shafts. Remember what Thomas Edison said try every hair brain idea. Stay creative. Is the z axis thrust bearings going? When it travels up you hear a slurp sound?
That's not what I was expecting when I read the title.... I've seen someone use a mill to knurl the jaws for a vise (Fireball tool, giant blacksmith vise build) Basically he used a big shell mill with only one insert and cranked the feed all the way up so that it left behind a knurl pattern
Lol , Funny I have done this for years when I have no lathe to work on . I’m a tool maker , 47 years now . Doesn’t matter manuals or CNC , and I can write my own programs …. No software!!! The guys I work with can’t do that . But I started in 1977 on T3 fanc controls and yasnac too !! I love what I do and am getting ready to retire …. No one care either , I guess it because I make them look bad .. they use software and spend hours in a chair. Me I grab my calculator stand at controls and start writing … And I’m dose at lighting speed ! Yet I get no respect for my ability!! It’s called Jealousy , and egotists .. I always offer to teach and help , But it to far above their heads
Show me how to turn my welder into a mill
Get a Miller welder
@@Doubledsccreepingtom 😂
It’s a lot easier to go the other direction. Just run your tool body into a hard vise and boom! Stir welding!
@@DLS_MFG done that. Lol. They wanted faster faster so I gave it faster till the cutter glowed red and just kinda melted in with material. Great stress reliever
Well, even better, you can use it directly as a 3D metal Printer *requires some patience.
I don't have a lathe, show me how i can do it on my toaster 💀
Sometimes you have to work with what you have to get the job done!
A mill is usually morr expensive than a lathe and it is more rigid and heavy-duty.
Sometimes all you've got is a 50k mill🤷♂️
That's the fastest knurl I've ever seen - it was beautiful
Yes! I love seeing these little tricks that few know about, I've used this trick in more than a couple pinches. I made a custom tool steel angled end mill for a phenolic resin job we had a while back while our lathe was down by tilting the head of a Bridgeport EZ-TRAK mill to the angle I needed and cut the outer circumference with a cutter clamped in the vice, then popped it into a rotary indexer on another mill and cut two straight flutes into the sides, and finally put it back in the angled Bridgeport head and used the Z axis to broach the outsides of the cutter for relief behind the cutting edge. I had taken it upon myself to make the cutter without telling my bosses, they were in a meeting scratching their heads about how they were going to get a custom cutter made quickly enough to get the parts out on time, and after I had heat treated and sharpened it to a razors edge I walked into their meeting and set the cutter in from of my boss and told him I just delivered them from their pickle, who then looked at me like I was Jesus Christ walking on water (I was a new guy lol), needless to say I got a raise that day🤣.
Very wise guys !!! All the time you surprise us with something new.
i abuse my little manual lathe as a mill for years, its just the oposide.
Except you're missing the Y-axis
@@MF175mp can you explain how it's missing an axis? I can't think of what it can't do that a manual lathe can
@@tickandslug the lathe is missing one axis compared to the milling machine, thus making it a lot harder to mill on a 2 axis lathe than to turn on a mill.
@@MF175mp i have all 3 axis
@@MF175mp i removed the z axis and mount a 90° bracket instead. then i mount the z axis on the bracket to move up and down to get the y axis.
Cool way to make grip on like handlebars
It's the only way to do it
She was pretty cool. a great lady machinist
That's pretty cool.. wish that I had experience with a mill.
Then get some. Machinists wanted global
So cool im going to do this!!!!
You just solved a problem for me - I can do this instead of adding a 4th axis. I mean, I'm going to do that anyway later, but not this year.
Sure but you’ll still want that fourth
@@hammer1901 Absatively.
I was about to try this on a Bridgeport when I saw this xD no joke, it's all set up. I just need to put on my safety glasses
Sick! Great idea.
I would like to see how you make a thread on this setup
You can.
I've done this for years and years on my cnc vmc's & manual machines. Of course the 1st go to was my lathes but when tied up and getting a job done, it works just fine. Can also do some quick threading as well when needed.... Father Time has decided it was my turn to age so while I Patina I now just putz around in the garage with a few manuals keeping the rust off them. Great content, brings back memories of Purchase Orders...
Can you let us know the feed and the RPM you used for knurling.
Absolutely! The feeds and speeds of each operation are listed in the full video. Check it out! ruclips.net/video/yzhpCHPIhjY/видео.html
I am mindblown!
Nicely done, I only own a multi axes mill so it’s often a lathe for me when I need the odd turning jobs done here and there.
Holy inversion!
I had a charging handle for a Mac 11 that didn't fit my bolt. Took it to work and I was going to stick it on the lathe. Old timer said "lemme see that" and before I knew it he had it in a collet on his knee mill and had it skimmed down to fit perfectly
This is so cool
Show me how to do this with my wife's hair dryer!!
Sick
So a mill is more versatile than a lathe? I've been asking that question for 2 years now, once I saw you can mill flat parts on a lathe I thought that's the way to go but now I'm not sure.
Well you can turn a mill into a lathe but hardly the other way around. It just depends on what you usually do
Nice! I’ve heard of this but never though of knurling being done. That’s cool!
Nice
Where is the quick video showing how you program it????
Here is a quick recap of how we went about the process. ruclips.net/video/yzhpCHPIhjY/видео.html
@@TITANSofCNC that's really awesome. I was hoping there was programming involved. Did you use cad or just gcode at the control?
I think a helical double threading would have been better than the knurling tool but then you would need thread relief i guess. Still looks good.
Is there a specific program to teaching a CNC mill to behave like a lathe? I've wanted to for a while, but there's not a lot of stuff out there on it
Awesome suggestion for future tutorials! Our team will discuss this!
@@TITANSofCNC would do wonders for efficiency if it could be set up with one piece of stock in the machine and multiple tools bolted to the bed, so that it can do multiple operations with the same program. Spacing and zeroing would be the only issue there
Yay..
Sweet! Knurling didn't look properly formed though.
I always look for a well formed base and sharp peak with clean valleys and walls.
That last pass with the cutting tool , I've seen that done recently. What is that for?
Does it not remove the sharp peaks that make knurling useful?
Ik do this a lot ! Also made a center i can build to the spindel head. Works perfect for smaller parts.
That's awesome! 🤙
I'm going to need you to show me how to make an adapter so that I can turn a piece 6-in cold rolled
Wow,
I haven’t seen that done in 30 years.
Glad to see it again.
No we didn’t fill the tool changer with preset shafts.
Remember what Thomas Edison said try every hair brain idea.
Stay creative.
Is the z axis thrust bearings going?
When it travels up you hear a slurp sound?
Do threads still need to be taken slow?
Now you're going to have to show me how to turn my lathe into a mill
Stick endmill into chuck, part into tool folder. Done, simple axis mill. With a cnc though you could probably do some cool stuff that way
Maybe slower speed... you literally threaded that rod lol
I mean ya you should be able to use a cnc mill as a mill, but also a laythe
That's not what I was expecting when I read the title.... I've seen someone use a mill to knurl the jaws for a vise (Fireball tool, giant blacksmith vise build)
Basically he used a big shell mill with only one insert and cranked the feed all the way up so that it left behind a knurl pattern
Not quite. A double knurling tool was used. Here's a quick recap of how we achieved the knurl ruclips.net/video/yzhpCHPIhjY/видео.html
The surface finish doesn't look that great. Is it a problem with the machine?
Why do you need to cut the outer diameter after knurling, is the size incorrect?
That cutting mark is ugly enough.
Pretty sure if you can afford s mill like that you can afford a nice conventional lathe from the 90s
Genial
You have to show me how to turn my Car into a Center less Grinder .
I don't have a lathe but i have a cnc mill
How do I service our mill?
So a mill can be turned into a swiss machine this way )
That surface finish looks like complete dogshit
True
It's on purpose..
It’s because no coolant is used for film purposes
It has feed lines on purpose, gives extra grip on the knurled surface
I'm pretty sure I would get fired if my boss seen me doing this s***
Btw, who has a mill but not a lathe 😂😂
It can be the other way around. People can have a lathe but not a mill. The first case is pretty rare lol
why ?
OK,but have you milled a part in a lathe yet?
People do that all the time now. But with a 2 axis lathe and tool in the headstock spindle it's just not very convenient
Works alright, but look at those tool marks 🤢🤮 are we allergic to finishing passes and tool changes around these parts?
Do people own a cnc mill and not a lathe?
Thats pretty cool but your probably destroying your spindle.
А почему накатка производиться без СОЖ?
Видео в демонстрационных целях снято, а не как отрывок из реального рабочего процесса.
Охлаждающая жидкость обычно не используется для съемок. Мы хотим, чтобы вы увидели инструменты.
Screaming knurling tool without coolant/lubricant. Wow
You can turn a mill I to a lathe but not a lathe into a mill
ruclips.net/video/brTjn5w-HXM/видео.html
Good bye spindle
Very coarse finish, tool was too pointy
Можно, конечно, но зачем?
If you have a mill, you probably already have a lathe.
I got 7 horizontals a vertical and no lathes so this trick has come in handy a few times
@@mikep3813 lol okay
@@clayton9136 wasn't a joke, but ok 👍🏻
Only men appreciate knurling.
Way to much rpm...
Its aluminium you need a higher RPM, but yes maybe a little and feed could be a little slower
Lol ,
Funny I have done this for years when I have no lathe to work on .
I’m a tool maker , 47 years now .
Doesn’t matter manuals or CNC , and I can write my own programs ….
No software!!!
The guys I work with can’t do that . But I started in 1977 on T3 fanc controls and yasnac too !!
I love what I do and am getting ready to retire ….
No one care either , I guess it because I make them look bad .. they use software and spend hours in a chair.
Me I grab my calculator stand at controls and start writing …
And I’m dose at lighting speed !
Yet I get no respect for my ability!!
It’s called Jealousy , and egotists ..
I always offer to teach and help , But it to far above their heads
🤓
My mill at home has like 6in z axis travel… don’t think I’ll be doing this anytime soon 🥲
these guys discovered powder as cnc machinist!
Why?