I'm not a secret pre trib. rapture believer. Actually this is what I believe. Try to keep up, it is a bit complicated. Every verse should be out of the KJV Bible. I believe in a 70 yr Judgment of God that has already started, it started in 1999. Half way through this Judgment or 2029-2036 is when all the excitment or dread, depending on your point of view, begins. First of all God will take the 144,000 children out of His people's offspring. Children in biblical terms is 11 y/o and under. (Rev 7:1-8; & Rev 14: 1-5 as well as Daniel 12!:1a) and His 12 Princes (Is. 32:1; Revelation 12:1-2 & 5). The tribulation starts immediatly after this event. I believe in a 3 1/2 or 1260 days of tribulation (Rev 11:3; Rev 12:6; Rev 12:14; Dan 12:7) After the 1260 days, the dead in Christ will rise and be taken into heaven. Next, there will be 30 days of Great tribulation (1290 days) (Daniel 12:11, Rev 8:1) The 30 minutes in heaven is the same as 30 days on earth. culminating with the miraculous rapture of those that R still alive and in Christ. The people that were left behind (Daniel 12:12; 1335 days) because of their disbelief will be killed by the Angel of the LORD (Rev 14:6-16) so that their souls will escape into Heaven, there bodies will follow shortly thereafter. The wrath of God will begin to take place immediately after the 1335 day from the beginning of the tribulation. It will consist of the the vials and will last approx. 30-35 yrs. Christ will return with His army (Rev.19:11-21) There is much more that could be said of this time, but i just gave U the condensed version.😇
24 Nov. 2024 @paulcarpenter3748 Hi Paul I received your comments on my “Rapture Ravings” sermon and assume that you would like me to reply. Unfortunately there is not a lot that I can say in reply. Your comments quote Scripture, but no Scriptural argument is made. In other words, you are pulling Scripture from here, there, and everywhere, to make up a self-confessed “this is what I believe” argument - but none of those Scriptures teach what you claim for them (i.e., “a 70 year judgment of God that has already started … in 1999”). The book of Revelation largely concerns things that in John’s day were “soon” to take place (Rev. 1:1) and were “near” (Rev. 1:3). Only towards the end of the book does John jump “a thousand years” into the future (Rev. 20-22a). Your theory therefore finds no support in the Revelation passages you referred to. Similarly, you have misapplied passages from the book of Daniel. The “end time” (Dan.12:9; cf. Dan.12:4) is not the end of the world, but rather “the end time” (Dan.11:40; cf. Dan.11:45) associated with “the king of the North” (Dan.11:40f.). Scripture needs to understood and used in its context. Regards, Alan
I'm not a secret pre trib. rapture believer. Actually this is what I believe.
Try to keep up, it is a bit complicated. Every verse should be out of the KJV Bible.
I believe in a 70 yr Judgment of God that has already started, it started in 1999.
Half way through this Judgment or 2029-2036 is when all the excitment or dread, depending on your point of view, begins.
First of all God will take the 144,000 children out of His people's offspring. Children in biblical terms is 11 y/o and under. (Rev 7:1-8; & Rev 14: 1-5 as well as Daniel 12!:1a) and His 12 Princes (Is. 32:1; Revelation 12:1-2 & 5). The tribulation starts immediatly after this event.
I believe in a 3 1/2 or 1260 days of tribulation (Rev 11:3; Rev 12:6; Rev 12:14; Dan 12:7)
After the 1260 days, the dead in Christ will rise and be taken into heaven.
Next, there will be 30 days of Great tribulation (1290 days) (Daniel 12:11, Rev 8:1) The 30 minutes in heaven is the same as 30 days on earth. culminating with the miraculous rapture of those that R still alive and in Christ.
The people that were left behind (Daniel 12:12; 1335 days) because of their disbelief will be killed by the Angel of the LORD (Rev 14:6-16) so that their souls will escape into Heaven, there bodies will follow shortly thereafter.
The wrath of God will begin to take place immediately after the 1335 day from the beginning of the tribulation. It will consist of the the vials and will last approx. 30-35 yrs.
Christ will return with His army (Rev.19:11-21)
There is much more that could be said of this time, but i just gave U the condensed version.😇
24 Nov. 2024
@paulcarpenter3748
Hi Paul
I received your comments on my “Rapture Ravings” sermon and assume that you would like me to reply.
Unfortunately there is not a lot that I can say in reply. Your comments quote Scripture, but no Scriptural argument is made. In other words, you are pulling Scripture from here, there, and everywhere, to make up a self-confessed “this is what I believe” argument - but none of those Scriptures teach what you claim for them (i.e., “a 70 year judgment of God that has already started … in 1999”).
The book of Revelation largely concerns things that in John’s day were “soon” to take place (Rev. 1:1) and were “near” (Rev. 1:3). Only towards the end of the book does John jump “a thousand years” into the future (Rev. 20-22a). Your theory therefore finds no support in the Revelation passages you referred to.
Similarly, you have misapplied passages from the book of Daniel. The “end time” (Dan.12:9; cf. Dan.12:4) is not the end of the world, but rather “the end time” (Dan.11:40; cf. Dan.11:45) associated with “the king of the North” (Dan.11:40f.). Scripture needs to understood and used in its context.
Regards,
Alan