The delivery on that “you’re a fucking disappointment” line is absolutely incredible acting. You can tell by his face that he’s not even looking at Homelander, he’s seeing and talking to himself, accepting that what his father said was true.
I think SB always knew deep down that he wasn't a good guy and was an asshole as a front for his insecurities. Homelander thinks he's a great guy and the world is wrong (NPD) When he finally saw Homelander he was so disappointed at how fucked up he was. For him, it must have been like looking in a mirror, so he knew he had to stop him.
I love the little detail of Homelander actually running over to Ryan before going after Soilder Boy. Nice little touch that he actually does seem to care for him.
I don’t think he cares all that much, he might in the moment but I think he wants Ryan on his side to mess with Butcher more than him actually caring for him. Plus I think Ryan is gonna go back to Butcher since well Homelander is a psychopath and yea Butcher isn’t far from that either but he still cares for Ryan more than Homelander does. That’s just how I see it tho, won’t know what happens until the next season
@@sentry3019 I actually think Homelander cares for Ryan, he wants to look after someone because he didn't have anyone to look up to and to trust growing up. Meanwhile, Butcher doesn't really love Ryan but he loved his wife and cares for her final word which was to keep Ryan from being swayed and taken. He may be upset to see Ryan hurt but at the end of the day, for him, it is Homelander's son.
It’s sad because this is the most real Homelander’s ever been, what he wants most is what he never got- genuine love. Psychopath he may be, but he knows what he’s lacking and he wants it.
@@TalesfromRedroom boohoo we all need to find love homelander is a fucking disappointment. People have alot less than homelander and they aren't self centered self serving murderous psycopaths.
A microcosm for how the west treats masculinity. I thought last season's "Girls really do get it done" was just being funny and ironic. Now I feel certain The Boys is being run by the Director of The Seven Movie.
@@Kyle-2020 you really crafted such a false narrative based on your personal issues. SB wasn’t simply “honoring his commitment” he hates himself which is why he hates homelander and said what his dad said to him. Billy kept his commitment to Becca and Maeve kept her commitment to try to kill HL. Did you watch the show?
The problem is Soldier boy was the only one that could have stopped Homelander. Ryan saved Homelander here twice directly and indirectly, and he even enjoyed his father's way of living. He's on the path of being the new Homelander and Butcher will just have to end him.
Say that children gravitate toward love and attention. They’re starving for it when they have a lack of it. Homelander is a psycho, but the one thing, the one redeeming quality to him is his desire for life. The fact that he protected Ryan. Shows he’s capable of changing. I heard someone tell me before, that Homelander was not the villain of the show. And clearly I can see it now.
You’re wrong because this episode taught us that soldier boy isn’t the only one who can beat him, Maeve did some insane damage to him, his super hearing is done for. Star light will be the next to fight homelander and I think she will win, she got an insane power boost after that episode
FinalFlash nonsense all across the board his ears are fine, and plus Starlight only was temporarily power booster because she was able to absorb a metric fuckton of energy
Technically, his portrayal was absolutely nothing like the original character. In that sense, he missed the mark by a mile. Of course, this version of Soldier Boy was a billion times better than the one in the comic, so in that sense, he knocked it out of the park. Honestly, it's very rare that an adaptation changes so much about the original and still is enjoyable on its own merits. The Boys is in a very small clubhouse on that accord.
@@willchurch8376 there's always this pathetic nerd that cries when a character or story is not portrayed as the original. Especially in this case the comics was actually shit compared to the show.
@@willchurch8376 dude he isn't the one who wrote the script for Soldier Boy, if you wanna blame the major character change blame it on screenwriters not the actor.
Soldier boy is the most badass of all the supes. Fears nothing, expresses no weakness, great instincts. I hope he redeems himself, he's my favorite supe.
Homelander genuinely cares about Ryan. He's a horrible person and is a terrible influence, but when Ryan was hurt that was real fear he felt for him. He even told him to go back upstairs when he knew it was dangerous. Amazing character, fascinating to watch. Great finale.
@@light-qe3gv Butcher isn't a boyscout and in a normal world I would agree but in this one if I were to compare them to other comic book characters. Butcher is a slightly more sarcastic Frank Castle, while Homelander is an even more psychotic and petty, yet dumber and lazier Eobard Thawne.
@@halo3isawsome321 Shoehorned how? They very clearly set up his fallout with Butcher in episode 3 and it was only a matter of time before Homelander found him. Yes because of him Homelander is still alive, but there is also a big chance that most of them would have died there and Neuman would have had her one way ticket to becoming President since there would be no one else left to stop her. Which obviously have been her long term plan since that will end up giving Vought the one thing they have been trying to get the entire show. A control that will start with the US government and it's military and then end with literally owning the entire planet.
I really hate how everyone thought that stopping Soldierboy was more important than killing Homlander, the guy who had been the biggest threat since S1, especially MM, Annie, and Billy all of them were so clouded by emotions they missed the perfect opportunity to kill HL but no let's kill the guy who is literally willing to help us kill him. 🤦♂️
Butcher went 1v1 to him and got good upright Homelander was an unstoppable threat, now he is just an super threat He can die, and has fears like any other person, that is what moved people into being more agressive Also what you expected, the butcher to let Ryan die too? Like Ryan is not just an boy, he is Becca son, he is like Becca and if butcher loved her, he will love Ryan too Like he already did with his promise and his, moments with the boy, truly I wish those 2 can live an normal life together
How telling that Soldier Boy used the same, haunting insult that his own father derided him with when he called him a disappointment. Had they had a little more interaction here he might've called him a shortcut born straight from the womb who didn't even earn his powers.
I love the extra parallel at the start of the episode with soldier boy also doing the "YOU guys are the real heroes" line. even if it was scripted its very telling of their similar positions
I guess it’s because he’s just that disconnected from his son he never met him or raised him but even if he had, he would’ve probably done the same thing his father did because that’s who Soldier Boy is: an insecure guy who takes pride in being a “real man” when a real man would never hurt his son, neither verbally nor physically
@@higaiwokeru I mean if Soldier boy did have kids he probably would have been nicer to them than his father was. The only real reason why Soldier Boy tried to hurt Homelander is because homie wasn’t his son. He probably would have raised homie to be better than he was.
@@higaiwokeru he did state that he wanted kids with countess and that if they let him know about homelander, he would've raised him and given him his shield.
@@higaiwokeru "a real man never hurts his son" ehhh, when your son is a murdering psychopath ready to kill everyone in the world if he loses the shallow love of the masses, it takes a real man to kill his son lol
Totally agree! And the little look on Maeve’s face during that scene was a nice touch. I think she was satisfied that somebody had the balls to tell Homelander exactly what he is.
@@Star-nl5id he didn't "save him" the kid is a supe despite everything and SB was never going to take him down. He wanted HL. Ryan got in the way and SB dealt with him. I highly doubt he would've stripped HL of his powers and then went on killing Ryan
@@sarahgabriella84 I really don't care about it, soldier boy should beat everyone's asses and kill them all! He's the only one character who I support there, the other ones are just shit which came from the progressive agenda.
@@sarahgabriella84 if he blasted Ryan and Homelander Ryan wouldn’t die from it and he would have no powers which is why hat Becca wanted. Also Ryan involved himself into that he could’ve sided with butcher and Becca hated Homelander so Ryan betrayed them both. So if I was Ryan’s mom I’d be great full if eh even died
Man I feel SB wasnt going to side with HL, he is the reason that also got him betrayed. He wanted to stay true to his goals and his new team for first time, but he is alaso psycho, I mean...dang idk whats worse between him and HL tbh.
@@rodrigoandrescoloane SB is starting to bcom a better villain than HL i think. He was whooping everybodys ass while HL was being wrecked by maeve. I thought HL was invincible .it turns out everybody can make him bleed now
When Ryan gets hit, as he should, Homelander really shows immidiate care for his son. Seeing Butcher and Homelander come together temporarily to help Ryan really shows just how similar they are.
Homelander is a psychotic murderer/rapist who threatens the lives of all non “supe” humans on earth. He only shows concern for Ryan because Ryan has super powers and thus is worthy of being his son. Butcher helping the man who raped his wife makes zero sense here.
@@6Kubik yea homelander is really good guy and all he want just someone who love him like his son. but bcs of how hl raised he went psychotic but still deep down in his heart has good ngl
My heart was pounding in this scene, I literally could not predict how it would turn out. It was strange seeing Homelander so vulnerable, and his desperate need for a family, genuinely hoping they could be one. You do kind of feel bad for him.
Ironically, his own father, who's right in front of him, despise him. And he cares so much to his son. This is proof that Ryan is his weakness. He doesn't have parental figure on his life, even Vogelbaum sees him as a product, so he tried his best to be a good father to Ryan.
@@bot01020 it’s true that Soldier Boy could’ve killed them with just that big explosion but it takes time and i doubt they’d just watch and let it happened, even if it was a assassination the charging time lets the others attack him before it was even finished
You can see Soilder Boys' tears as he he is talking to Homelander, even saying the line his father told him. It is truly an emotional and well written scene
@@kevinkenobipius1557homelander sees humans as lowlifes, Soldier boy on the other hand is somewhat ashamed of taking Compound V as his dad told him he wouldn't have done it without taking shortcuts, and thus the disappointment. He just wants to prove he's a man and he's proud of being a man and not just some supe.
@@ashary9675that's what they can do with Soldier boy in Season 5. They can create a redemption arc where Soldier boy actually goes against, and actually be the real man he was meant to be. By doing that, he can let go of his feelings of inadequacy
@@formelyknownastfwltbcs1656 nah that ain't it he was clearly projecting himself onto homelander he said word for word what his father use to say to him
You have to remember that SB is a man of his word he definitely was going to kill homelander until Ryan with his f****** ass came in and ruined everything then butcher just abandoned the planet and started to beat on Soldier Boy
What I love about this scene is how everyone kept their word. Soldier Boy held his end of his bargain with Butcher but unfortunately, Butcher also held on to his promise to Becca. I interpret the look they had with Maeve as “we may be ready to die but we’re not total assholes to involve an innocent child.” It solidified him as a murderous psycho who is still fighting to keep his humanity by protecting those he cares about(Hughie and Ryan). Plus, it was also a moment of conviction for Queen Maeve that they might not need Soldier Boy anymore as they think they’re already brave enough to do it on their own. Had Ryan been not involved in this episode, we won’t even be getting another season 😂
If Ryan wasnt there homelander was getting Nuked for sure. Maeve is stronger than Hughie by a huge mile and she did extremely well against Homelander even though he was holding back as he was distracted and also in some twisted way he actually probably loves Maeve or at least thinks he does which is why he didn't kill her earlier. Also that whole harvesting her eggs thing
@@TheMerlet24 You're not even sure of that and even if it's true, to take down Homelander you must be ready to sacrifice everything you have, I mean he IS already dying because of the shits he takes (green compound V) just because he wants to kill homelander and now he changes IS mind and allow Homelander to continue to make Ryan evil ?
I love that Soldier Boy earlier said that he wanted kids so he could be different than his own father. Then he says the exact thing to Homelander his dad said to him.
Because he accepted the truth that his father was right. Soldier boy hates himself and seeing his son turn out just like his was the ultimate disappointment. Soldier boy didn't want his kids to turn out like him, he wanted them to be better then him but instead homelander became a darker reflection of him.
All the more reason to kill him to. You can't have a person live from a young age with power like that, and not turn out a horrible monster. Butchers goal of kill all supers is the correct one. Most people could never handle that power without being corrupted, so nobody should ever have it just to be safe.
@@derrickjenkins2455 That's what happens when you are raised in an environment disconnected from the world and everyone your whole life. HL warned Becca against that kind of upbringing but he himself isn't the ideal parent for teaching morals either since he's a product of that.
And the fact that Maeve survived a point-blank blast by SB means that Ryan was never in any real danger. He'd actually merely end up depowered, with a chance at a normal life. Butcher fucked everything up.
@@sarahgabriella84 What the hell are you saying ? Soldier Boy never said anything like that. Hell he loves Bill Cosby. XD That was some weird statement from Mother's Milk. Strange of the writers to put that out. Out of the blue and cringe.
@@thibaldus3 Funny enough, I think MM might have just said that in reference to what Stormfront was and what they went through with her (an old era hero who had a murky past) with her racist ways and secondly, he may have taken the fact that soldier boy killed his family as an act of racism. Waiting for the next season for a clear up though.
How do you watch this show, see every scene about Soldier Boy’s complete disregard for everyone, see every scene where he’s clearly turning his back on Butcher’s mission, see him vent about his father, and then see him only turn on him when he realized he reminds him of his own self hate - all to conclude that this is because of his dedication.
@@derekcheesball1248 cAuse he’s the only person who can kill a fucking super hero that can cause a world ending scenario if gone crazy. I don’t care if he kills 100 people, homelander needs to die.
@@derekcheesball1248 You are a symptom of what's wrong. Missing the forest for the trees as always. The world will always need men like Soldier Boy willing to sacrifice everything to get the job done while you sip your dew in your boxers.
Soldier Boy is a real soldier and a Man. The guy kept his word and never double crossed anyone despite him getting betrayed many times. Unlike the others he's not a hypocrite cause the dude knows how painful it is to get betrayed by the ones you love the most.
Dude he was about to kill Ryan as well what you on about? Soldier Boy keeps his words sure, but at the cost of so many innocent people dying? that's just stupid
Honestly, if SB wasn't so strict to his own word, he would have literally been Homelander's only salvation towards being human again. Homelander looked up to SB, always sought for actual love that could never be his, and to find out his childhood hero was the family he always wanted, he was quite frankly on cloud nine.
@@danielmiller9012 for one I hope they put Noir together AGAIN and Noir really comes after HL. If A train doesnt die for God know how many times ... Noir was done dirty and so was SB this finale. Fuck Butcher and fk Boys - not show but that team. They let Homelander go with now going psycho too Ryan - and SB could take them both. It was the plan after all right ?
@@vitcher3507 No one is beyond salvation, homelander's redemption could be him saving Ryan and saying something like "don't turn out like me" it's cringe but homelander is very much capable of that
@@hyeettreet1493 I don’t think he was bargaining if there’s 1 thing we know about homelander is that he wanted a family most of all. Now he’s pleading his father to join him and have one
@@hyeettreet1493 True. Homelander says he is alone at 0:26 and then brings Ryan between him and Soldier Boy. That just shows how he planned in advance to keep Butcher aside because of Ryan being there. People really be looking for humanity in Homelander.
I feels like Soldier Boy saying that homelander was a dissapoinment to him was cearly because he wanted his son to be not as asshole as he is but he wasnt there to "fix" HL upbringing resulting in the current megalomaniac homelander just like soldier boy is. Truth is, soldier boy did the right call to end his family line because deep down he knew it well that his legacy of assholeness will continue through homelander and ryan if he wouldn't step in to end it all. Thats a deeper thought to what Soldier boy really think and act on this episode from my point of view But yeah its a personal opinion bruv pls dont take me too seriously 🥴
Soldier Boy realized that if he had a son he would've wanted a better life and upbringing than the one he got. In seeing his lineage stand before him he realized that whatever he could've done for these two if he was apart of their lives was long since passed, that no matter what he could've done for them now, who and what they were had already been set in stone. The only thing he could really do now was make sure that no one else could be hurt by him and his anymore.
I have a different take on this: Soldier Boy wanted his dad to acknowledge and praise him. He considered this weakness and despised himself for having such a human need. When he saw Homelander he was reminded of himself. That's why he cries when Homelander tells him that they both are the same
Thats a very nuanced way of looking at it. Tbh I think Soldier Boys intentions should be taken at face value. He’s still an asshole, he just wanted Homelander to not be such an insecure baby. That’s my opinion.
What I enjoy about this writing is that we actually cheer for Soldier Boy. Our 'heroes' are teaming up with the supposed 'villain', against an anti-hero. And you get these confused and anxious feelings of wtf and excitement for seeing 2 people who would never team up actually do so. All while not wanting Homelander to win in any manner and actually not minding if Soldier boy gets done what he has to even at the cost of a kid. I just enjoy mostly that The Boys scratches away all OG dialogue of how stories would go, and just interweaves good and evil, good outcomes and bad outcomes into one big mess of "We're not doing anything like anyone else does". It's refreshing.
@@justflex6745 I say anti-hero because they have depicted him as a savior for ages is all. Anti-hero and anti-villain are based a lot on what people viewed them as. Much like heroes and villains are the same.
Yeah it's very refreshing to see yet another f*cking kid running around ruining every plan the main characters have, like we haven't had enough of such sh*t in other movies/shows.
The writers did a major 180 with the finale, we thought soldier boy would work with homelander, we thought butcher would get Hughie killed, we thought Noir would die fighting soldier boy. Yet the opposite of what everyone was expecting happened. This show always seems to surprise with each episode, and each episode is truly unpredictable. Can't wait for season 4.
I was fairly confident that soldier boy wasn’t gonna work with homelander, and that hughie wouldn’t die, but I didn’t expect black noir to go out before fighting soldier boy
To be fair, when a Supe slams your young son with a 100+ pound shield at full force and is about to execute him just to kill Homelander with no hesitation whatsoever, you’d probably also be having some serious doubts about him
Emotionally sure, but I wouldn't let that stop me. By not killing Homelander he's potentially dooming the entire human race. Literally. There's no question what the correct move was.
@@lsd-rickb-1728 theyre back to the drawing board. But maybe not with no powers. Butcher is garunteed to die. He has nothing left to lose at all. So he might take permanent V in season 4.
i think that soldier boy has the potential to be an anti hero, many things he did troughtout this season show that he struggles to live with what he did, sure he killed all the members from payback, but that little time he shared with butcher and hughie and seeing how they protected each other, made him realize what being a true leader and being on a team is all about, do you really think he believed butcher when he told him hughie flinched from the battle? he realized he was trying to protect hughie and looking at his actions he knows he messed up big, he could very well return as a "new" man in future seasons
That's pretty much why soldier boy is my favorite character he's a man who struggles physiologically from decades of trauma,in my opinion he's the most human
Oh no he's a grade-A asshole. He's power-mad but it plateau'd at the old Faith mantra of 'Want Take Have.' Homelander is just gonna get crazier and crazier.
@@Momoo77 to be fair, Butcher didn’t betray him. He just told SB to leave Ryan out of it. He was still game to kill Homelander, just not Ryan(and why wouldn’t SB agree, he could always go at it again later, the kids eleven)
I doubt it. He still feels no remorse for the actions he didn't view as mistakes( abusing payback, his real "combat experience" and all of his cover ups including MM's one ). They made him a human, but he still is a bad guy in every sense
Butcher is the 1st person he ever encountered who wasn't afraid of him. Everyone else's hearts would be racing out their chest from terror but never Butcher because he was more angry at Homelander than afraid.
It was rushed lmao Butcher all along wanted to kill homelander woke SB then one incident turned against him? Plot armour was heavy there or else homelander was gone
HL is far from redemption the fucked up ones are butcher and maeve for thinking to stop soldier boy. HL was never redeemable, he abuses his powers, soldier boy is just as bad….
Because there's no emotion into it. SB was betrayed, tortured and when he got free, he realised they created something better than him using his sperm.
Soldier Boy was in pain knowing he was about to kill his dream of raising his own son and grandson but he knew how fucked up homelander is being an experiment of vought and Ryan was about to become even worst if raise by homelander. Soldier boy knows betrayal and wouldn't break a deal to Butcher after saving him and helped him kill his former friends that are traitors to him. Sadly soldier boy now gets betrayed again by Butcher and it was all PTSD again for Soldier Boy.
This is actually the perfect twist and actually incredibly sad, all Homelander ever wanted as a child in the comics was a mother and someone to actually love him.
In all seriousness though this scene really shows how the abuse cycle repeats itself from father to son, instead of super heroes though it just happens in families all over
Yeah instead of soldier boy accepting what homelander said and trying to comfort him, he reinforces it and basically ensures that he will always be as bad as him, instead of helping him. People make such retarded arguments about this too, saying that "he saw bad qualities in him so he knew he didn't deserve to be helped" lol obviously he has bad qualities, helping him and accepting him as a son would have definitely given a chance to have homelander become a person who can care for others and isn't constantly insecure and needing to feel love, because he would have gotten what he needed deep down, the love of a parent.
homelander seems to always forget about his ability to fly lmao, which was kinda whats special about him, he can fly and generate tons of speed and force, yet he missed a lotta punches on Maeve......i mean, comon
Before watching the show everyone told me that! Season 3 to me was the worst except for the Homelander stuff. Mother’s Milk was awful in season 3. Made one my favorite characters my least favorite that season! They also walked the political line too much this season! As a trump supporter the Homelander killing someone in front of his supporters was hilarious because instantly thought of that joke Trump made! Good play on that! I often am agreeing with the villains political ideals but then they show them go insane with them!
Season two was honestly the best, ending and all. They really, really, REALLY fucked up S 3 ending. With Ryan turning evil and Butcher becoming a pussy, it's a fucking massacre.
Yeah this season was their only way of stopping HL. Now with even his father turning on him he is truly unleashed. I don’t see what Victoria can do , Butcher can probably laser her brain out and be done with her under a couple episodes. Now it’s either they do a time skip and we see Ryan going bad or it’ll be more shenanigans about the Boys forming a lame ass plan to stop HL with another forgotten hero from a time even before Soldier Boy (even tho they said Stormfront and him were the first V users I’m sure they’ll create another one whose even stronger but this time it’ll be a woman stuck in Korea)
That little moment between Homelander and Soldier Boy is sad. All his life Homelander wanted family because he never had it, and he thought he could fix things with his father and at last have a family. That’s why you can see he actually cares about Ryan, and let’s just say caring about people is very rare for Homelander
@@neometalx9 I hope it doesn’t go that way, I was honestly shocked that Ryan wanted to go with homelander. He even smiled at the end after homelander killed that dude at the rally
Jensen ackles is so fuckin good!! arrogance and that cocky nature Soldier on a mission unlike the boys (3 seasons and only one supe killed (translucent))
This scene got my heart racing. I had no clue what was going to go down. Anybody could die at this moment. Bravo again for another awesome season of the boys.
This show doesnt have the balls to kill off anyone. I thought they killed maeve, but she survived. Would've been better because her sacrifice wouldve been heroic but no she ends up normal which is exactly what she wanted.
I'm pretty sure they'll eventually wake his ass up maybe Mallory will give Soldier Boy a reality check tell him what's really going on at least that's what I think
After the end of episode 7, I was really hoping Soldier Boy would say that to him when they met. Best piece of writing this season. Then everyone goes and gangs up on my Boy. Weak.
Soldier boy got done so dirty. Kept his word to butcher, and still got betrayed. The worst things he’s done pale in comparison to the shit homelander has done, yet they act like he’s more evil than homelander.
@@skyguyflyinghigh "but but hes racist and homelander simply wants a family and can be reformed" is what the idiots are saying. He had no reason to help butcher but did because hes an honest guy who keeps his end of the deal. Just to be betrayed and jumped by his team again.
@@snpandsnb1953 exactly. Like soldier boys sole motivation to kill homelander is that he made a promise to butcher, and he kept his word, yet he gets betrayed and the writers want us to think HES the asshole. Like “ohh he bullied gunpowder and black noir” ok and? Homelander literally lasered an innocent person at the end of this episode and literally KILLED noir.
Dammit Ryan. Soldier boy was actually really mature and fairly humble here. He realized his own flaws and terrible behaviour and how his son got the same, even worse because nobody raised him but he also knows homelander is permanently a loose cannon of narcissism. He also keeps his word. Butcher should have pulled Ryan away
butcher turning on soldier boy and protecting homelander bc Ryan just so happened to be in the shot rly irked me. why not quickly get him out of the way and let soldier boy kill homelander and then "turn a blind eye" when the boys gang up on him to take him down with the novichok. Happy ending for literally everyone (maybe except ryan)
@@Davidscomix that's what I'm saying, he should have shoved homelander so ryan is out of the firing line. Ryan may resent him but butcher can sway him over time just like he did in s2
Butcher should of told Soldier Homelander is the target not the kid and butcher having homelander powers should of just grabbed ryan out of the room and let soldier and meavee do their thing to once and for all end homelander.
@@darkrain2493 bro he thinks homelander is a disappointment witch he is. Sb probably thinks Ryan’s also a disappointment. if he ran solder boy would have stilled killed them.
@@thebladesservent1542 n**** SB doesn't care about Ryan he was just in the way his entire Target was homelander the entire time, he just wanted to kill homelander because he wanted to keep his bargain with butcher, Butcher is the one that f***** up instead of actually taking Ryan out of the f****** building.
I'm glad you put this scene up, this exchange is so good. Probably my favorite scene from season 3. When I first saw it, I had to rewind and watch it again. The utter disgust from SB about how he feels about Homelander followed by grabbing his face just sent me over. Antony and Jensen killed it.
"i'm you" "i know, and you're a fucking disappointment" holy shit this line hits so hard, soldier boy was basically your average rich brat that never worked hard in his life for what he had, he even became the strongest man on earth through cheating, same with homelander, he didn't have to work to get to his level, vought basically made gave him the number one spot.
I agree. I think that part of the reason why Soldier Boy hates homelander so much. Is because homelander is basically the same person that soldier boy was pre torture. But post torture soldier boy doesn't have that weakness. He doesn't need adoration or affection. He is a stone cold killer. And more of a human weapon than a person. So when he saw homelander. And saw a reflection of his own previous arrogance and sycophantic ways. That is what drove soldier boy into full on kill mode. He wanted to kill homelander. Just like how he killed off his own personal weakness during the 40 years of torture he experienced at the hands of the soviets.
Honestly SB ... was betrayed here and I have no fucking idea why Butcher did what he did - promise my ass to Becca. Truth is that SB wasn't after Ryan , but Ryan did come into play and couldn't be ignored. Butcher of all should know killing Homelander could come with sacrifices - but when it comes to it - he backs off. Thing is SB came here to kill Noir and Homelander - and he frigging was about to - as Homelander got absolutelly overpowered like some random normie. If SB comes back somehow - he would be right to come after Boys. MM also being idiot as always ... goes after SB BEFORE SB kills Homelander NOT after as he should - taking out Homelander is still a must. They must realise that by this point right ? What I'm trying to say - why not take both SB and HL ? MM could think for once . And tower was evacuated already - Hughie job. So what now ... Ryan saved but turning into 2nd Homelander seeing Daddy just kills people for free to "protect" him. Gj Butcher and MM. I genuinely feel sorry for SB - he is piece of shit, but he actually kept his part of deal - I should say - the only one to do so.
Wow I actually feel bad for Homelander. I think he genuinely wanted them to be a family and he is noticeably really devastated by what soldier boy said. You can also really tell he truly loves and cares about Ryan because of the level of concern he showed after he was knocked out. He's done horrendous things but there's definitely still hope for him.
Literally nope. Did you watch the end or what Anthony Starr or Eric Kripke has said. Homelander is not redeemable and never will be they have already said this. He is pure evil. He only wants Ryan for more power to shape and mold him as the next psycho.
@@jaycehoward2771 I think he's irredeemable in that he's too far gone to be saved and done too much evil to ever make up for, but I also think he genuinely cares about Ryan. It's been emphasized several times this season that he's human, with the good and bad that entails.
@@RTaco he cares about him for self serving reasons only. You all need to go back and watch him try and kidnap the child from his mother so he could be raised with a Nazi so wtf are talking about? Lmao
I think HL was emotional and that’s what got in the way. Also QM and Butcher had to help SB a bit. But yes, they had him but fucking Ryan interrupted. I still think HL beats SB on a 1 vs 1.
Where tf did you got that from lol. The three of them were needed to hold homelander. And homelander didn't even fought SB this time... Homelander is the ultimate supe dude, stop simping for Jensen Ackles
I honestly think Homelander likes and respects Butcher. He always tells him exactly what he thinks of him without any fear. Homelander probably never experiences that type of directness from anybody else. Also damn Jensen stole the whole show. I truly want a show focoused just on his character. We didn't get anywhere near enough of him this season
I've always felt that Homelander doesn't like Butcher but is FASCINATED with him because he can sense that Butcher is completely fearless and indifferent around him and no one else is. This is first established in the Season 1 scene when they're in the outdoor sports arena and Homelander looks down the bleachers and everyone else is facing away but Butcher is glaring at him and Homelander is noticeably thrown off because every other human walks on eggshells around him. He doesn't kill Butcher because this is literally a new experience for him, to interact with someone who never lies to him because he isn't operating from fear.
you guys are forgetting about Edgar but difference is that Homelander can still view him as Vought whereas Butcher is just a supposed random that he gets fascinated by because he's not scared of him at all
2:29, the exact moment Homelander dies on the inside. Almost makes you feel sorry for him. Despite all the terrible things he's done, despite the fact that he is beyond redemption. On the inside he's still just a scared, lonely, little boy.
Yeah... I said before: Soldier Boy is an asshole on a human level. A guy who hits people. Homelander is a straight-up crazy lunatic. To quote a meme, they are _not_ the same.
Exactly. Soldier boy might be an asshole, but he’s the type of asshole to beat your ass and then laugh at you. Homelander will literally laser you and everyone you care about, and then destroy the block you live on just for good measure. Also, whatever you think of soldier boy, he’s honorable and keeps his promises, and at the very least tries not to kill innocents. Homelander doesn’t give a shit. Idk what butcher was thinking
No one talks about the emotional intelligence and introspection Soldier Boy displayed when he calls Homelander a disappointment. When he looks at Homelander, he finally realizes what his father told him all those years ago was correct. And this is why I want a Soldier Boy redemption arc.
I bet he's getting one next season. He will team up with homelander to kill butcher, then likely go against homelander once Homelander does something drastic with his presidential power, by doing that he can let go of his feelings of being a dissapointment and actually be the "real man" and actually prove his worth.
Geez homelander is such a complex character, at one point he doesnt care if he has no one by his side, on the other hand, he would as far as beg for approval from someone else. That's why I love the character, so much depth!
I know everyone been saying it but man give Homelander all the Emmy’s this scene is just amazing and when he’s talking to the deep, Ashley and A train and just dissing them knowing they just gotta take it. This dude is just next lvl he’s getting up there with Walter whites, Tony soprano’s, don Drapers of the world
I just started binge watching all the episodes. This series is soooo good. Great acting, writing and effects. Every character has so many levels. It's addictive.
Damn it I really hope this isn’t the last we see of Soldier boy he’s my fav character the way he’s portrayed in the show I hope he actually ends up killing homelander later,they should do that rather than it being a clone doing it in the comics
Every person Homelander kills in S4 is Butcher's fault. Writers cornered themselves and had to kill a character to get out of the impasse. Show went from quality to just good entertainment.
I love how in most tv shows/movies when children first exhibit their super powers, it’s usually at the expense of another unfortunate person. But in this case, after Ryan lasers soldier boy, he just gets back up and is like “turn that shit off”
I think what's amazing is that Soldier Boy literally became his own father despite hating him, while Homelander was able to escape that and actually care about his son. He wasn't manipulating Ryan in the garden, he actually wants the love of his son and I think that even though he's a psychopath, at least he'll be a better father than soldier boy ever could have been
@@bartu913 it could go one of two ways with that. Either yeah, Ryan annoys him or Ryan literally becomes a mini HL which I see happening with that little sociopath smile he gave at the end
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The delivery on that “you’re a fucking disappointment” line is absolutely incredible acting. You can tell by his face that he’s not even looking at Homelander, he’s seeing and talking to himself, accepting that what his father said was true.
Yes! I missed that "I'm you", "I know" line first time. Spot on.
YES
@@MatthewBester yes that I'm you line was the straw that broke the camels back. Plus the kid calling him Grandpa owwwwwww
Yup
Mean Winchester.
Ryan gotta ruin every season finale 💀
On god lmaoo after all he killed stormfront
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@CHRONOTHEMANGAKA lmao that's all u care?
Yeen never lied
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Soldier Boy seems to be a man of his word.
He could have just joined Homelander and defeated everyone. Great writing on the character.
Nah if homelander had any resemblance to soldiers boys messed up values he probably would’ve switched sides
@@vidalmarcus470 then butcher wouldve been ded like a iraq bomber in season 1 and the boys without a lead would doom
He’s not a man of his word. He is disgusted at the type of person homelander is.
I think SB always knew deep down that he wasn't a good guy and was an asshole as a front for his insecurities. Homelander thinks he's a great guy and the world is wrong (NPD) When he finally saw Homelander he was so disappointed at how fucked up he was. For him, it must have been like looking in a mirror, so he knew he had to stop him.
@@shawnjohnson4318 why should he be disappointed whats the diff between him and homelander
I love the little detail of Homelander actually running over to Ryan before going after Soilder Boy. Nice little touch that he actually does seem to care for him.
And then in season 4 he is going to be bored with him since now his supporters still love him after what he did in front of those people
I don’t think he cares all that much, he might in the moment but I think he wants Ryan on his side to mess with Butcher more than him actually caring for him. Plus I think Ryan is gonna go back to Butcher since well Homelander is a psychopath and yea Butcher isn’t far from that either but he still cares for Ryan more than Homelander does. That’s just how I see it tho, won’t know what happens until the next season
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@@sentry3019 I actually think Homelander cares for Ryan, he wants to look after someone because he didn't have anyone to look up to and to trust growing up. Meanwhile, Butcher doesn't really love Ryan but he loved his wife and cares for her final word which was to keep Ryan from being swayed and taken. He may be upset to see Ryan hurt but at the end of the day, for him, it is Homelander's son.
It’s sad because this is the most real Homelander’s ever been, what he wants most is what he never got- genuine love. Psychopath he may be, but he knows what he’s lacking and he wants it.
I feel so bad for him, even after all
And 🥛 also
@@TalesfromRedroom boohoo we all need to find love homelander is a fucking disappointment. People have alot less than homelander and they aren't self centered self serving murderous psycopaths.
Odd that I think that there might be a redemption arc for him in the future seasons.
@@JSR-w4l some sort of sacrifice which leads to Ryan becoming a good hero something this world has never had before?
When you realize soldier is the only one with commitment and honors his word.
A microcosm for how the west treats masculinity. I thought last season's "Girls really do get it done" was just being funny and ironic. Now I feel certain The Boys is being run by the Director of The Seven Movie.
@@Kyle-2020 you really crafted such a false narrative based on your personal issues. SB wasn’t simply “honoring his commitment” he hates himself which is why he hates homelander and said what his dad said to him. Billy kept his commitment to Becca and Maeve kept her commitment to try to kill HL. Did you watch the show?
@@TheSuperNats You're part of the problem. You probably look like the director of the seven movie.
@@TheSuperNats 🤦♂️
@@Kyle-2020 You didn't watch the show lmao
Props to Soilder Boy for being a man of his word.
True in his mind hes a real man 1940s style so his word he’ll keep
he was ready to kill his own grandson so idk how much we should praise him
Cause he’s a real man and a soilder!
And then Butcher turns sissy. A real cuck
Butcher pissed me off
The problem is Soldier boy was the only one that could have stopped Homelander. Ryan saved Homelander here twice directly and indirectly, and he even enjoyed his father's way of living. He's on the path of being the new Homelander and Butcher will just have to end him.
I hope this is the arc growth for Ryan. Would be fun to see over 5-6 years
Say that children gravitate toward love and attention. They’re starving for it when they have a lack of it. Homelander is a psycho, but the one thing, the one redeeming quality to him is his desire for life. The fact that he protected Ryan. Shows he’s capable of changing. I heard someone tell me before, that Homelander was not the villain of the show. And clearly I can see it now.
You’re wrong because this episode taught us that soldier boy isn’t the only one who can beat him, Maeve did some insane damage to him, his super hearing is done for. Star light will be the next to fight homelander and I think she will win, she got an insane power boost after that episode
FinalFlash nonsense all across the board his ears are fine, and plus Starlight only was temporarily power booster because she was able to absorb a metric fuckton of energy
Nah, Maeve would've defeated Homelander as well, he's weak as hell lmao
Jensen Ackles absolutely nailed soldier boy - phenomenal acting on top of an already phenomenal cast
Technically, his portrayal was absolutely nothing like the original character. In that sense, he missed the mark by a mile.
Of course, this version of Soldier Boy was a billion times better than the one in the comic, so in that sense, he knocked it out of the park. Honestly, it's very rare that an adaptation changes so much about the original and still is enjoyable on its own merits. The Boys is in a very small clubhouse on that accord.
@@willchurch8376 there's always this pathetic nerd that cries when a character or story is not portrayed as the original. Especially in this case the comics was actually shit compared to the show.
@@willchurch8376 dude he isn't the one who wrote the script for Soldier Boy, if you wanna blame the major character change blame it on screenwriters not the actor.
Go ahead and click 'read more'. @@Crimson19977
Soldier boy is the most badass of all the supes. Fears nothing, expresses no weakness, great instincts. I hope he redeems himself, he's my favorite supe.
Homelander genuinely cares about Ryan. He's a horrible person and is a terrible influence, but when Ryan was hurt that was real fear he felt for him. He even told him to go back upstairs when he knew it was dangerous.
Amazing character, fascinating to watch. Great finale.
if you didnt know, butcher is the bad guy not homelander
Bad finale, Ryan was shoehorned into this episode, useless conflict
@@light-qe3gv Butcher isn't a boyscout and in a normal world I would agree but in this one if I were to compare them to other comic book characters. Butcher is a slightly more sarcastic Frank Castle, while Homelander is an even more psychotic and petty, yet dumber and lazier Eobard Thawne.
@@halo3isawsome321 Shoehorned how? They very clearly set up his fallout with Butcher in episode 3 and it was only a matter of time before Homelander found him. Yes because of him Homelander is still alive, but there is also a big chance that most of them would have died there and Neuman would have had her one way ticket to becoming President since there would be no one else left to stop her. Which obviously have been her long term plan since that will end up giving Vought the one thing they have been trying to get the entire show. A control that will start with the US government and it's military and then end with literally owning the entire planet.
What do you mean finale? There will be season 4
I really hate how everyone thought that stopping Soldierboy was more important than killing Homlander, the guy who had been the biggest threat since S1, especially MM, Annie, and Billy all of them were so clouded by emotions they missed the perfect opportunity to kill HL but no let's kill the guy who is literally willing to help us kill him. 🤦♂️
Well butcher is less loyal than soldierboy, he immediately turns on him after solider boy defends himself.
@mool8799 so was soldier boy and it wasn’t them who messed it up it was Ryan
Butcher went 1v1 to him and got good upright
Homelander was an unstoppable threat, now he is just an super threat
He can die, and has fears like any other person, that is what moved people into being more agressive
Also what you expected, the butcher to let Ryan die too? Like Ryan is not just an boy, he is Becca son, he is like Becca and if butcher loved her, he will love Ryan too
Like he already did with his promise and his, moments with the boy, truly I wish those 2 can live an normal life together
Agreed 👍
why did butcher attack SB?
That split second look between Butcher and Homelander as they worked together to laser SoldierBoy...
Ryan is the bridge between them.
Given how important Ryan is to Homelander, I thought the end would be HL declaring a temporary truce with Butcher for saving Ryan’s life.
And both of them are concerned to Ryan even they told him to get out
Lame af whole character ruined, whats his purpose now? He had his chance to kill Homelander now it's gone
@@zeed4267 A line in the sand, kill Homelander but not at all cost
How telling that Soldier Boy used the same, haunting insult that his own father derided him with when he called him a disappointment. Had they had a little more interaction here he might've called him a shortcut born straight from the womb who didn't even earn his powers.
I love the extra parallel at the start of the episode with soldier boy also doing the "YOU guys are the real heroes" line. even if it was scripted its very telling of their similar positions
I guess it’s because he’s just that disconnected from his son
he never met him or raised him but even if he had, he would’ve probably done the same thing his father did because that’s who Soldier Boy is:
an insecure guy who takes pride in being a “real man” when a real man would never hurt his son, neither verbally nor physically
@@higaiwokeru I mean if Soldier boy did have kids he probably would have been nicer to them than his father was. The only real reason why Soldier Boy tried to hurt Homelander is because homie wasn’t his son. He probably would have raised homie to be better than he was.
@@higaiwokeru he did state that he wanted kids with countess and that if they let him know about homelander, he would've raised him and given him his shield.
@@higaiwokeru "a real man never hurts his son" ehhh, when your son is a murdering psychopath ready to kill everyone in the world if he loses the shallow love of the masses, it takes a real man to kill his son lol
2:23 Love Butcher's smile when he realizes SB's going to keep his word!
just for butcher to not keep his word kek
@@musashi542 ‘every death that happens from now on is on butcher’
Totally agree! And the little look on Maeve’s face during that scene was a nice touch. I think she was satisfied that somebody had the balls to tell Homelander exactly what he is.
@@musashi542 he did keep his word, he saved ryan
@@Star-nl5id he didn't "save him" the kid is a supe despite everything and SB was never going to take him down. He wanted HL. Ryan got in the way and SB dealt with him. I highly doubt he would've stripped HL of his powers and then went on killing Ryan
Man was ready to kill his own son and grandson to do the right thing. Respect for soldierboy.
Killing and kid is not the right thing to do
he could have killed homelander without involving so many innocent people he just doesnt care hes not much better than homelander
@@Firey_Dudeit is when you can save thousand of lifes.
@@gabhunter6377 the means don't justify the result
@@Firey_Dude says who?
Damn Soldier boy was the only one that kept his word, he went out with honor
He isnt dead and Butcher also kept his word to Becca to protect Ryan.
@@sarahgabriella84 Ha I wonder which one he values more’s wife’s memory or word to protect her rapist’s hellspawn
@@sarahgabriella84 I really don't care about it, soldier boy should beat everyone's asses and kill them all! He's the only one character who I support there, the other ones are just shit which came from the progressive agenda.
@@sarahgabriella84 if he blasted Ryan and Homelander Ryan wouldn’t die from it and he would have no powers which is why hat Becca wanted. Also Ryan involved himself into that he could’ve sided with butcher and Becca hated Homelander so Ryan betrayed them both. So if I was Ryan’s mom I’d be great full if eh even died
@@sarahgabriella84 yeah, just yknow. Kept SB out of the loop
At least SB was committed to a goal.
He's a soldier on a mission.
Only to be betrayed again in the end... Definitely felt the rage built in when M.M put the inhaler on him.
Man I feel SB wasnt going to side with HL, he is the reason that also got him betrayed. He wanted to stay true to his goals and his new team for first time, but he is alaso psycho, I mean...dang idk whats worse between him and HL tbh.
@@rodrigoandrescoloane SB is starting to bcom a better villain than HL i think. He was whooping everybodys ass while HL was being wrecked by maeve. I thought HL was invincible .it turns out everybody can make him bleed now
@@Ebbystein Wow, he gets bled once for just a little bit and now everyone thinks he's really weak
When Ryan gets hit, as he should, Homelander really shows immidiate care for his son. Seeing Butcher and Homelander come together temporarily to help Ryan really shows just how similar they are.
More like they both realized the boy meant more to them than their mutual desires to murder each other.
Homelander is a psychotic murderer/rapist who threatens the lives of all non “supe” humans on earth. He only shows concern for Ryan because Ryan has super powers and thus is worthy of being his son. Butcher helping the man who raped his wife makes zero sense here.
And it was not Butcher who ran to Ryan. It was HL. Very telling.
You could tell he wanted to but he also wanted hl dead.
@@6Kubik yea homelander is really good guy and all he want just someone who love him like his son. but bcs of how hl raised he went psychotic but still deep down in his heart has good ngl
2:04
Jensen's sarcastic look is genuinely brilliant, he can be terrifying when he needs to be.
Learned it from the best, John Winchester (Negan), his Dad.
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I am the 999th like 👍
My heart was pounding in this scene, I literally could not predict how it would turn out. It was strange seeing Homelander so vulnerable, and his desperate need for a family, genuinely hoping they could be one. You do kind of feel bad for him.
How annoying people like you are. He's an animal and a maniac, and you still protect him.
The plot armor is too heavy in the finale , the boys would have been easily killed by soilder boy
Ironically, his own father, who's right in front of him, despise him. And he cares so much to his son. This is proof that Ryan is his weakness. He doesn't have parental figure on his life, even Vogelbaum sees him as a product, so he tried his best to be a good father to Ryan.
@@bot01020 how exactly?
@@bot01020 it’s true that Soldier Boy could’ve killed them with just that big explosion but it takes time and i doubt they’d just watch and let it happened, even if it was a assassination the charging time lets the others attack him before it was even finished
Rip Soldier boy, the most consistent character this season
he's not dead....again
Honestly a little frustrating
@@rimok.2765 Bruh have you watched the end of the episode? He isn't dead
@@Fright_-ck6iw that’s what they just fucking said
@@ohor5994 hes not dead hes back in a deep sleep watch the show again the media said that too make the people feel safe again
You can see Soilder Boys' tears as he he is talking to Homelander, even saying the line his father told him. It is truly an emotional and well written scene
Do you think maybe soldier boy saw part of himself in homelander? Hence why calling him a disappointment?
@@thegreatsay10part of himself? They’re carbon copies
@@kevinkenobipius1557homelander sees humans as lowlifes,
Soldier boy on the other hand is somewhat ashamed of taking Compound V as his dad told him he wouldn't have done it without taking shortcuts, and thus the disappointment.
He just wants to prove he's a man and he's proud of being a man and not just some supe.
@@ashary9675that's what they can do with Soldier boy in Season 5. They can create a redemption arc where Soldier boy actually goes against, and actually be the real man he was meant to be. By doing that, he can let go of his feelings of inadequacy
At least, Homelander shows his love to his son. Soldier Boy is too ruthless as one rage super soldier.
Well, he hates weakness.
@@formelyknownastfwltbcs1656 nah that ain't it he was clearly projecting himself onto homelander he said word for word what his father use to say to him
He’s a soldier and is willing to do whatever it takes for victory
But Antony Starr said he didn’t want Homelander to redeem.
You have to remember that SB is a man of his word he definitely was going to kill homelander until Ryan with his f****** ass came in and ruined everything then butcher just abandoned the planet and started to beat on Soldier Boy
Gotta love it when SB simply bodychecks Ryan into the wall.
I laughed so hard. Bro really got body checked
Grandpa teaching some manners to the little brat 🤣
fave part of the episode
Dude don’t GAF😂
@@jayK914 literally😂😂😂
What I love about this scene is how everyone kept their word. Soldier Boy held his end of his bargain with Butcher but unfortunately, Butcher also held on to his promise to Becca. I interpret the look they had with Maeve as “we may be ready to die but we’re not total assholes to involve an innocent child.” It solidified him as a murderous psycho who is still fighting to keep his humanity by protecting those he cares about(Hughie and Ryan). Plus, it was also a moment of conviction for Queen Maeve that they might not need Soldier Boy anymore as they think they’re already brave enough to do it on their own. Had Ryan been not involved in this episode, we won’t even be getting another season 😂
Huge mistake to not let SB kill Homelander, Ryan IS gonna become as evil as him. Butcher IS an hypocrite and an idiot.
If Ryan wasnt there homelander was getting Nuked for sure. Maeve is stronger than Hughie by a huge mile and she did extremely well against Homelander even though he was holding back as he was distracted and also in some twisted way he actually probably loves Maeve or at least thinks he does which is why he didn't kill her earlier. Also that whole harvesting her eggs thing
@@daxamgh6126 Agree 100%. Whatever Homelander does going forward could have been avoided. Idiot decision
@@daxamgh6126 Are you nuts? that Blast would've probably killed Ryan. They did the right stopping Soldier Boy.
@@TheMerlet24 You're not even sure of that and even if it's true, to take down Homelander you must be ready to sacrifice everything you have, I mean he IS already dying because of the shits he takes (green compound V) just because he wants to kill homelander and now he changes IS mind and allow Homelander to continue to make Ryan evil ?
I love that Soldier Boy earlier said that he wanted kids so he could be different than his own father. Then he says the exact thing to Homelander his dad said to him.
Because he accepted the truth that his father was right. Soldier boy hates himself and seeing his son turn out just like his was the ultimate disappointment. Soldier boy didn't want his kids to turn out like him, he wanted them to be better then him but instead homelander became a darker reflection of him.
@@Errorvirus404 my man jack spicer knows his stuff
@@Errorvirus404do you think SB will return this season ?
@@Charlie-wi7nd I hope so. All we can do is hope.
I mean to be fair can you really be proud of the type of person that Homelander is?
are people forgetting ryan is like 11 and does not think rationally.. all he sees is his dad :I
Like when he smirked as he watched his dad lazered a guy's head off
@@derrickjenkins2455 Homelander is doing quite a good job of influencing him
@@derrickjenkins2455 Butcher is going to regret betraying SB
All the more reason to kill him to. You can't have a person live from a young age with power like that, and not turn out a horrible monster. Butchers goal of kill all supers is the correct one. Most people could never handle that power without being corrupted, so nobody should ever have it just to be safe.
@@derrickjenkins2455 That's what happens when you are raised in an environment disconnected from the world and everyone your whole life. HL warned Becca against that kind of upbringing but he himself isn't the ideal parent for teaching morals either since he's a product of that.
after this finale I fully stand with soldier boy. He was the only one with the right mindset
And the fact that Maeve survived a point-blank blast by SB means that Ryan was never in any real danger. He'd actually merely end up depowered, with a chance at a normal life. Butcher fucked everything up.
Soldier boy was the real MVP.
A white supremacist has a "right" mindset alright...
@@sarahgabriella84 What the hell are you saying ? Soldier Boy never said anything like that. Hell he loves Bill Cosby. XD That was some weird statement from Mother's Milk. Strange of the writers to put that out. Out of the blue and cringe.
@@thibaldus3 Funny enough, I think MM might have just said that in reference to what Stormfront was and what they went through with her (an old era hero who had a murky past) with her racist ways and secondly, he may have taken the fact that soldier boy killed his family as an act of racism. Waiting for the next season for a clear up though.
Something really admirable to stay on mission no matter what, he clearly is the definition of a dedicated soldier
Yeah and not like someone else, Butcher (who betray Solder Boy)
Yea, not really
How do you watch this show, see every scene about Soldier Boy’s complete disregard for everyone, see every scene where he’s clearly turning his back on Butcher’s mission, see him vent about his father, and then see him only turn on him when he realized he reminds him of his own self hate - all to conclude that this is because of his dedication.
@@derekcheesball1248 cAuse he’s the only person who can kill a fucking super hero that can cause a world ending scenario if gone crazy. I don’t care if he kills 100 people, homelander needs to die.
@@derekcheesball1248 You are a symptom of what's wrong. Missing the forest for the trees as always. The world will always need men like Soldier Boy willing to sacrifice everything to get the job done while you sip your dew in your boxers.
Soldier Boy is a real soldier and a Man. The guy kept his word and never double crossed anyone despite him getting betrayed many times. Unlike the others he's not a hypocrite cause the dude knows how painful it is to get betrayed by the ones you love the most.
True, but Soldier Boy can be a jerk to his teammates.
Well i mean he deserved getting jumped by his teammates he was the one being an absolute ass to them
He is a man of his word but he aint a good guy either. Dude power trips so much and despises the weak so much that he wants to kill them
Dude he was about to kill Ryan as well what you on about?
Soldier Boy keeps his words sure, but at the cost of so many innocent people dying? that's just stupid
@@lightheart5all it matters is that he’d get the job done
Honestly, if SB wasn't so strict to his own word, he would have literally been Homelander's only salvation towards being human again. Homelander looked up to SB, always sought for actual love that could never be his, and to find out his childhood hero was the family he always wanted, he was quite frankly on cloud nine.
I think HL prolly regrets killing Noir now
@@danielmiller9012 for one I hope they put Noir together AGAIN and Noir really comes after HL. If A train doesnt die for God know how many times ... Noir was done dirty and so was SB this finale.
Fuck Butcher and fk Boys - not show but that team. They let Homelander go with now going psycho too Ryan - and SB could take them both. It was the plan after all right ?
lol, HL is far far beyond salvation.
@@danielmiller9012 no, i dont think so. Because if Noir had told him, he could have grown up with his dad and is readon enough to kill him
@@vitcher3507 No one is beyond salvation, homelander's redemption could be him saving Ryan and saying something like "don't turn out like me" it's cringe but homelander is very much capable of that
Soldier boy was genuinely disgusted by homelander and Ryan 😂
I would be to
i think SB got disgusted at homelander for using a kid as a bargaining token, hence calling him a dissapountment
@@hyeettreet1493 I don’t think he was bargaining if there’s 1 thing we know about homelander is that he wanted a family most of all. Now he’s pleading his father to join him and have one
@@marlom7882 SB saw it as such, even if homelander had good intentions. Besides SB knew he'd be horrible as a family man at this stage of his life
@@hyeettreet1493 True.
Homelander says he is alone at 0:26 and then brings Ryan between him and Soldier Boy. That just shows how he planned in advance to keep Butcher aside because of Ryan being there.
People really be looking for humanity in Homelander.
I feels like Soldier Boy saying that homelander was a dissapoinment to him was cearly because he wanted his son to be not as asshole as he is but he wasnt there to "fix" HL upbringing resulting in the current megalomaniac homelander just like soldier boy is.
Truth is, soldier boy did the right call to end his family line because deep down he knew it well that his legacy of assholeness will continue through homelander and ryan if he wouldn't step in to end it all.
Thats a deeper thought to what Soldier boy really think and act on this episode from my point of view
But yeah its a personal opinion bruv pls dont take me too seriously 🥴
Soldier Boy realized that if he had a son he would've wanted a better life and upbringing than the one he got. In seeing his lineage stand before him he realized that whatever he could've done for these two if he was apart of their lives was long since passed, that no matter what he could've done for them now, who and what they were had already been set in stone. The only thing he could really do now was make sure that no one else could be hurt by him and his anymore.
I have a different take on this:
Soldier Boy wanted his dad to acknowledge and praise him. He considered this weakness and despised himself for having such a human need.
When he saw Homelander he was reminded of himself.
That's why he cries when Homelander tells him that they both are the same
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
There’s a reason it’s a cliche. Thats because its true.
Thats a very nuanced way of looking at it. Tbh I think Soldier Boys intentions should be taken at face value. He’s still an asshole, he just wanted Homelander to not be such an insecure baby. That’s my opinion.
@@feliprolo might be true but its pretty clear that HL is too much like SB and thats something SB didnt want.
What I enjoy about this writing is that we actually cheer for Soldier Boy. Our 'heroes' are teaming up with the supposed 'villain', against an anti-hero. And you get these confused and anxious feelings of wtf and excitement for seeing 2 people who would never team up actually do so. All while not wanting Homelander to win in any manner and actually not minding if Soldier boy gets done what he has to even at the cost of a kid.
I just enjoy mostly that The Boys scratches away all OG dialogue of how stories would go, and just interweaves good and evil, good outcomes and bad outcomes into one big mess of "We're not doing anything like anyone else does". It's refreshing.
soldier boy is a good anti villain.I wouldn't say anti hero
@@justflex6745 I say anti-hero because they have depicted him as a savior for ages is all. Anti-hero and anti-villain are based a lot on what people viewed them as. Much like heroes and villains are the same.
Yeah it's very refreshing to see yet another f*cking kid running around ruining every plan the main characters have, like we haven't had enough of such sh*t in other movies/shows.
@@justflex6745 Nothing about soldier boy is heroic 😂
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 you talkin to me or him.The only heroic thing sb did was say he was gonna help kill homelander.He is a textbook anti villain
The writers did a major 180 with the finale, we thought soldier boy would work with homelander, we thought butcher would get Hughie killed, we thought Noir would die fighting soldier boy. Yet the opposite of what everyone was expecting happened. This show always seems to surprise with each episode, and each episode is truly unpredictable. Can't wait for season 4.
Honestly I'm really fucking glad Hughie didn't die. There's no show without him
I was fairly confident that soldier boy wasn’t gonna work with homelander, and that hughie wouldn’t die, but I didn’t expect black noir to go out before fighting soldier boy
@Viper Hareous Yeah. It wasn’t a bad episode per say, but surprising the audience isn’t always a good thing.
Yeah.. No. This was another example of poor “subverting expectations”
@@sweetlights8019 Hughie will probably survive in entire show
I want more SB in the next season. Such a badass character.
He will come back.. Mallory will do something
@@raihansatrio8940 I hope so, otherwise, it is a waste of good material
@@Thorin632 just like Noir’s death. Waste of good material
I feel like if he was gone gone they would have actually killed him, he will likely come back at some point (I hope)
@@Frank_MC no way he’s actually dead
2:57 Can we just acknowledge the fact that this man really decked his own grandson😭
That was funny asf 🤣
Well He decked His grandpa first, so the son has to learn some discipline 😂
Would you really call that grandson, he was born because you came in a cup and then the boy r worded a women 😂
Ryan had it coming though
To be fair, when a Supe slams your young son with a 100+ pound shield at full force and is about to execute him just to kill Homelander with no hesitation whatsoever, you’d probably also be having some serious doubts about him
But homelander is a monster and butcher undid everything now back to the board fighting him with no powers
@@lsd-rickb-1728 All for a kid who showed a small smile when he saw HL kill someone and people cheered. Butcher is a idiot Imo
Bruh It’s on Ryan He should’ve listened to both butcher and HL they both said the same thing “Go upstairs or get out of here”
He 100% had it coming
Emotionally sure, but I wouldn't let that stop me. By not killing Homelander he's potentially dooming the entire human race. Literally.
There's no question what the correct move was.
@@lsd-rickb-1728 theyre back to the drawing board. But maybe not with no powers. Butcher is garunteed to die. He has nothing left to lose at all. So he might take permanent V in season 4.
I laughed so hard when Soldier Boy threw Ryan into the cabinet 😂
Same Solider Boy didn’t give two shits that he was a kid let alone his grandson 😂😂
Yes!! "You little shit!" had me rolling.
Man was like “Fuck this kid”😂
I love ryan’s surprised face when he realises he cant push Butcher away
2:25 Maeve trying not to laugh is a mission impossible for her 😂
i think that soldier boy has the potential to be an anti hero, many things he did troughtout this season show that he struggles to live with what he did, sure he killed all the members from payback, but that little time he shared with butcher and hughie and seeing how they protected each other, made him realize what being a true leader and being on a team is all about, do you really think he believed butcher when he told him hughie flinched from the battle? he realized he was trying to protect hughie and looking at his actions he knows he messed up big,
he could very well return as a "new" man in future seasons
That's pretty much why soldier boy is my favorite character he's a man who struggles physiologically from decades of trauma,in my opinion he's the most human
Oh no he's a grade-A asshole. He's power-mad but it plateau'd at the old Faith mantra of 'Want Take Have.' Homelander is just gonna get crazier and crazier.
America have him now I think they will train him to be homelanders clone aka black noir
@@Momoo77 to be fair, Butcher didn’t betray him. He just told SB to leave Ryan out of it. He was still game to kill Homelander, just not Ryan(and why wouldn’t SB agree, he could always go at it again later, the kids eleven)
I doubt it. He still feels no remorse for the actions he didn't view as mistakes( abusing payback, his real "combat experience" and all of his cover ups including MM's one ). They made him a human, but he still is a bad guy in every sense
“Scorched Earth William?”
I truly think by FAR my favorite relationship is the twisted respect Homelander has for Butcher
"scorched earf"
Butcher is the 1st person he ever encountered who wasn't afraid of him. Everyone else's hearts would be racing out their chest from terror but never Butcher because he was more angry at Homelander than afraid.
@@natashacutiepie6074 2nd
Never in a thousand years did I expect Butcher and Homelander to work together, even if it was just for a moment.
What mattered more to these men than their own vendettas was struck and thrown to the ground... their mutual grudges can wait a few moments.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 Homelander showed more maturity in this episode than I thought he would.
It was rushed lmao
Butcher all along wanted to kill homelander woke SB then one incident turned against him?
Plot armour was heavy there or else homelander was gone
@@AbhimanyuChannel Or, maybe butcher got character development
@@AbhimanyuChannel especially since last episode when he had flashbacks of his brother, he definitely got growth
Soldier Boy acknowledged Homelander as his son and still chose to kill him. He was even willing to kill Ryan. That is extremely fucked up
No it was the plan. Butcher would hav killed ryan if it wasnt for becca
HL is far from redemption the fucked up ones are butcher and maeve for thinking to stop soldier boy. HL was never redeemable, he abuses his powers, soldier boy is just as bad….
Because there's no emotion into it. SB was betrayed, tortured and when he got free, he realised they created something better than him using his sperm.
But it would be worth it to kill Homelander because he's just as bad
Soldier Boy was in pain knowing he was about to kill his dream of raising his own son and grandson but he knew how fucked up homelander is being an experiment of vought and Ryan was about to become even worst if raise by homelander. Soldier boy knows betrayal and wouldn't break a deal to Butcher after saving him and helped him kill his former friends that are traitors to him. Sadly soldier boy now gets betrayed again by Butcher and it was all PTSD again for Soldier Boy.
This is actually the perfect twist and actually incredibly sad, all Homelander ever wanted as a child in the comics was a mother and someone to actually love him.
The smirk on Butcher’s face always gets me 😂
Yeah 😂😂 because finally, someone told him the truth about Homelander to his face
In all seriousness though this scene really shows how the abuse cycle repeats itself from father to son, instead of super heroes though it just happens in families all over
Yeah instead of soldier boy accepting what homelander said and trying to comfort him, he reinforces it and basically ensures that he will always be as bad as him, instead of helping him. People make such retarded arguments about this too, saying that "he saw bad qualities in him so he knew he didn't deserve to be helped" lol obviously he has bad qualities, helping him and accepting him as a son would have definitely given a chance to have homelander become a person who can care for others and isn't constantly insecure and needing to feel love, because he would have gotten what he needed deep down, the love of a parent.
@Nikotheleepic Finally someone that isn't a thirteen year old redditor here.
It's a very hard cycle to break.
@@Nikotheleepiche is a man of his word though
old soldier boy would be abusive new soldier boy NAH!
Homelander is beyond change n redemption lmao
look at his relationship with Ryan
its toxic af
homelander seems to always forget about his ability to fly lmao, which was kinda whats special about him, he can fly and generate tons of speed and force, yet he missed a lotta punches on Maeve......i mean, comon
He didn’t want to actually hurt maeve too. He wanted her alive, so he undoubtedly was holding back
Lmao soldier boy be like: Get down here u fuking coward!
The writers are morons.
Not enough budget
@@user-uv4wn2xx7o I think he could knock out Maeve without killing her tho, but the fact Maeve can hurt him is kinda broke
The way soldier boy calls homelander a "sniveling poosy" is so satisfying to hear lol he says it so naturally😂
Season 3 was the best season of this show, just so amazing, the character development this season was crazy
Before watching the show everyone told me that! Season 3 to me was the worst except for the Homelander stuff. Mother’s Milk was awful in season 3. Made one my favorite characters my least favorite that season! They also walked the political line too much this season! As a trump supporter the Homelander killing someone in front of his supporters was hilarious because instantly thought of that joke Trump made! Good play on that! I often am agreeing with the villains political ideals but then they show them go insane with them!
With the worst ending. They wrote themselves in a dead end if they let SB take out Homelander.
They need to keep their villain going.
@@rutgerhauser2377 Not really a dead end, victoria's set up to be the antagonist in season 4, we'll just see how it goes from there.
Season two was honestly the best, ending and all.
They really, really, REALLY fucked up S 3 ending. With Ryan turning evil and Butcher becoming a pussy, it's a fucking massacre.
Yeah this season was their only way of stopping HL. Now with even his father turning on him he is truly unleashed. I don’t see what Victoria can do , Butcher can probably laser her brain out and be done with her under a couple episodes. Now it’s either they do a time skip and we see Ryan going bad or it’ll be more shenanigans about the Boys forming a lame ass plan to stop HL with another forgotten hero from a time even before Soldier Boy (even tho they said Stormfront and him were the first V users I’m sure they’ll create another one whose even stronger but this time it’ll be a woman stuck in Korea)
Jensen and Anthony were absolutely phenomenal in this scene. Hope this isn’t the last we’ve seen of Soldier Boy.
Homelander was acting like a single mom here lmao
That little moment between Homelander and Soldier Boy is sad. All his life Homelander wanted family because he never had it, and he thought he could fix things with his father and at last have a family. That’s why you can see he actually cares about Ryan, and let’s just say caring about people is very rare for Homelander
Omg he doesn't care about Ryan
he just playing tea party like a kid with stuffed animal
@@coreywilson9297 He clearly does.
@Corey Wilson Did you watch the same clip, of course Homelander cares about Ryan.
So what ???? Homelander is redeemed now?? You're Fucking impossible
Homelander won’t be able to control Ryan.
Hopefully he remembers his mother teachings, if he keeps getting influenced by homelander, it's going to be brightburn 2
@@neometalx9 I hope it doesn’t go that way, I was honestly shocked that Ryan wanted to go with homelander. He even smiled at the end after homelander killed that dude at the rally
He doesn’t want to if you pay attention he wants him to be better than him
Homelander is not the big bad anymore.soldier boy is starting to me.
@@Ebbystein homelander has and always will be the big bad
Jensen ackles is so fuckin good!! arrogance and that cocky nature
Soldier on a mission unlike the boys (3 seasons and only one supe killed (translucent))
There were hella supes at the Herogasm plus Butcher killed that one dude who knew about what happened to Soldiers Boy.
Butcher killed gun powder and mesmer
stormfront too xD
Popclaw, Shockwave...
@@officerspooder she killed herself, and it was Ryan who almost killed her
Can we talk about how they got Superman Captain America Wonder Woman and Punisher all in the same room together! Quite impressive
Right after Superman killed Black Panther too!
Butcher will make a great punisher 😅. Never thought of it.
This scene got my heart racing.
I had no clue what was going to go down.
Anybody could die at this moment.
Bravo again for another awesome season of the boys.
@Kira yep
Yet no one died lmfao
Idk it was really good until this scene when ryan interfered
Yeah but no one died, and we're back to square 1
This show doesnt have the balls to kill off anyone. I thought they killed maeve, but she survived. Would've been better because her sacrifice wouldve been heroic but no she ends up normal which is exactly what she wanted.
the way Dean grabs him by the face is so brutal I love it
This man stuck on supernatural, I love it.
Lmfao dean
where is sam winchester?
Supernatural is over with bro, move on from it. lmao
@@ThwipThwipBoomNever
Antony Starr deserves an Oscar honestly even though this is just a show, he’s shown some of the best acting I’ve seen in years
Facts
He is insanely good. He was born for this role
Emmys, not Oscars
@@ashary9675 why I said “though this is just a show”
I wish sb got away at the end, sucks to see him get captured again.
No hope he dies everything he has done to everyone deserves death doesn’t deserve to live he’s a fake never fought in a war and only acted the part
Honestly me too, I do hope he escapes though
I'm pretty sure they'll eventually wake his ass up maybe Mallory will give Soldier Boy a reality check tell him what's really going on at least that's what I think
@@Warhead999 If he wakes up, there is no telling what the writers would have him do. He was betrayed by both teams. He would probably kill everyone.
I still don't understand how they captured him again
After the end of episode 7, I was really hoping Soldier Boy would say that to him when they met. Best piece of writing this season. Then everyone goes and gangs up on my Boy. Weak.
Soldier boy got done so dirty. Kept his word to butcher, and still got betrayed. The worst things he’s done pale in comparison to the shit homelander has done, yet they act like he’s more evil than homelander.
@@plartoota4584 "b-but he was mean to black noir 🥺"
meanwhile homelander downing planes full of children and families: "lmao"
@@skyguyflyinghigh "but but hes racist and homelander simply wants a family and can be reformed" is what the idiots are saying. He had no reason to help butcher but did because hes an honest guy who keeps his end of the deal. Just to be betrayed and jumped by his team again.
Butcher became soft because of hughie. Also if homelander dies who would be the villain?
@@snpandsnb1953 exactly. Like soldier boys sole motivation to kill homelander is that he made a promise to butcher, and he kept his word, yet he gets betrayed and the writers want us to think HES the asshole. Like “ohh he bullied gunpowder and black noir” ok and? Homelander literally lasered an innocent person at the end of this episode and literally KILLED noir.
Frickin love soldier boy. Dudes an absolute beast
True 👌🏻
Dammit Ryan. Soldier boy was actually really mature and fairly humble here. He realized his own flaws and terrible behaviour and how his son got the same, even worse because nobody raised him but he also knows homelander is permanently a loose cannon of narcissism. He also keeps his word. Butcher should have pulled Ryan away
butcher turning on soldier boy and protecting homelander bc Ryan just so happened to be in the shot rly irked me. why not quickly get him out of the way and let soldier boy kill homelander and then "turn a blind eye" when the boys gang up on him to take him down with the novichok. Happy ending for literally everyone (maybe except ryan)
Because, Ryan would’ve resented him and he was in the way so he would’ve gotten hurt too
Except for Noir 😖
Ryan would have become the bad guy and worst then Homelander
@@Davidscomix that's what I'm saying, he should have shoved homelander so ryan is out of the firing line. Ryan may resent him but butcher can sway him over time just like he did in s2
@@kashifreza1993 butcher and maeve could raise him much better. he'd be angry for a little bit but ultimately he prefers butcher
Butcher worrying about SB keeping his word while simultaneously not keeping his word😂
I don’t get why butcher kept fighting with SB, just get Ryan out and let him do the rest lol.
Butcher should of told Soldier Homelander is the target not the kid and butcher having homelander powers should of just grabbed ryan out of the room and let soldier and meavee do their thing to once and for all end homelander.
@@darkrain2493 bro he thinks homelander is a disappointment witch he is. Sb probably thinks Ryan’s also a disappointment. if he ran solder boy would have stilled killed them.
@@thebladesservent1542 n**** SB doesn't care about Ryan he was just in the way his entire Target was homelander the entire time, he just wanted to kill homelander because he wanted to keep his bargain with butcher, Butcher is the one that f***** up instead of actually taking Ryan out of the f****** building.
@@thebladesservent1542 but Ryan is a kid. Maybe after killing homelander, they could have shown videos of homlamders crimes.
exactly! That's why I was so upset !!
Bro I love this scene so much, the human nature of homelander pouring out after watching his son get hit. He really does love him.
The look butcher and homelander gave each other was badass. I kind of loved the idea of them teaming up together. Too bad it was shortlived
Yup. It was a great thing
It made no sense. Teaming up with the person that raped your wife? Ok.
The look they gave eachother is basically like: This doesn't change anything, but this guy has got to go
Yall cant be serious, Homelander literally raped his wife
@@harbour2118fax
I'm glad you put this scene up, this exchange is so good. Probably my favorite scene from season 3. When I first saw it, I had to rewind and watch it again. The utter disgust from SB about how he feels about Homelander followed by grabbing his face just sent me over. Antony and Jensen killed it.
"i'm you"
"i know, and you're a fucking disappointment"
holy shit this line hits so hard, soldier boy was basically your average rich brat that never worked hard in his life for what he had, he even became the strongest man on earth through cheating, same with homelander, he didn't have to work to get to his level, vought basically made gave him the number one spot.
lmao you sound just like his father
I agree. I think that part of the reason why Soldier Boy hates homelander so much. Is because homelander is basically the same person that soldier boy was pre torture.
But post torture soldier boy doesn't have that weakness. He doesn't need adoration or affection. He is a stone cold killer. And more of a human weapon than a person. So when he saw homelander. And saw a reflection of his own previous arrogance and sycophantic ways. That is what drove soldier boy into full on kill mode. He wanted to kill homelander. Just like how he killed off his own personal weakness during the 40 years of torture he experienced at the hands of the soviets.
“he is human” that lined delivered is amazing you can tell he thinks himself well above humanity
For a spilt second, Homelander closed his eyes and accepted his fate.
Honestly SB ... was betrayed here and I have no fucking idea why Butcher did what he did - promise my ass to Becca. Truth is that SB wasn't after Ryan , but Ryan did come into play and couldn't be ignored. Butcher of all should know killing Homelander could come with sacrifices - but when it comes to it - he backs off.
Thing is SB came here to kill Noir and Homelander - and he frigging was about to - as Homelander got absolutelly overpowered like some random normie.
If SB comes back somehow - he would be right to come after Boys.
MM also being idiot as always ... goes after SB BEFORE SB kills Homelander NOT after as he should - taking out Homelander is still a must. They must realise that by this point right ?
What I'm trying to say - why not take both SB and HL ? MM could think for once .
And tower was evacuated already - Hughie job.
So what now ... Ryan saved but turning into 2nd Homelander seeing Daddy just kills people for free to "protect" him. Gj Butcher and MM.
I genuinely feel sorry for SB - he is piece of shit, but he actually kept his part of deal - I should say - the only one to do so.
He's a man of his word
This was my least favorite episode of series but god damn I like soldier boy
Your goddamn right, You most likely write what I want to say
Brah, learn to write sentences properly. Nothing you said makes sense. Stop using dashes.
The only guy in the whole of the boys universe to keep a deal
The irony is that Soldier Boy is acting exactly like his father. Even used the same line that still traumatized him for all these years.
Wow I actually feel bad for Homelander. I think he genuinely wanted them to be a family and he is noticeably really devastated by what soldier boy said. You can also really tell he truly loves and cares about Ryan because of the level of concern he showed after he was knocked out. He's done horrendous things but there's definitely still hope for him.
Literally nope. Did you watch the end or what Anthony Starr or Eric Kripke has said. Homelander is not redeemable and never will be they have already said this. He is pure evil. He only wants Ryan for more power to shape and mold him as the next psycho.
Lol no there’s not
Homelander sees Ryan as an extension of himself, he doesn’t really care about him
@@jaycehoward2771 I think he's irredeemable in that he's too far gone to be saved and done too much evil to ever make up for, but I also think he genuinely cares about Ryan. It's been emphasized several times this season that he's human, with the good and bad that entails.
@@RTaco he cares about him for self serving reasons only. You all need to go back and watch him try and kidnap the child from his mother so he could be raised with a Nazi so wtf are talking about? Lmao
This is like if Superman went rogue, and Wolverine, captain america, and Wonder Woman were sent to contain him.
My question got answered finally! A fully rested SB is more powerful than HL
Where do you see that at? Homelander was being held by butcher and Maeve also. He is not more powerful still takes 3 to hold him.
My mans was on a rampage.
I think HL was emotional and that’s what got in the way. Also QM and Butcher had to help SB a bit. But yes, they had him but fucking Ryan interrupted. I still think HL beats SB on a 1 vs 1.
Where tf did you got that from lol. The three of them were needed to hold homelander. And homelander didn't even fought SB this time... Homelander is the ultimate supe dude, stop simping for Jensen Ackles
The next part is when you wake up
I fucking love Soldier Boy, he’s such a savage 🤣
I honestly think Homelander likes and respects Butcher. He always tells him exactly what he thinks of him without any fear. Homelander probably never experiences that type of directness from anybody else. Also damn Jensen stole the whole show. I truly want a show focoused just on his character. We didn't get anywhere near enough of him this season
I've always felt that Homelander doesn't like Butcher but is FASCINATED with him because he can sense that Butcher is completely fearless and indifferent around him and no one else is. This is first established in the Season 1 scene when they're in the outdoor sports arena and Homelander looks down the bleachers and everyone else is facing away but Butcher is glaring at him and Homelander is noticeably thrown off because every other human walks on eggshells around him. He doesn't kill Butcher because this is literally a new experience for him, to interact with someone who never lies to him because he isn't operating from fear.
you guys are forgetting about Edgar but difference is that Homelander can still view him as Vought whereas Butcher is just a supposed random that he gets fascinated by because he's not scared of him at all
You can see how Soldier Boy points homelander head up, so he can't attack him with the laser. Nice touch, he's really learning
Homelander: "I know what its like to have your team betray you"
Soldier Boy: *Has his team betray him 2 minutes later*
2:29, the exact moment Homelander dies on the inside. Almost makes you feel sorry for him. Despite all the terrible things he's done, despite the fact that he is beyond redemption. On the inside he's still just a scared, lonely, little boy.
on the inside, aren't we all
Yeah... I said before: Soldier Boy is an asshole on a human level. A guy who hits people.
Homelander is a straight-up crazy lunatic. To quote a meme, they are _not_ the same.
Exactly. Soldier boy might be an asshole, but he’s the type of asshole to beat your ass and then laugh at you. Homelander will literally laser you and everyone you care about, and then destroy the block you live on just for good measure. Also, whatever you think of soldier boy, he’s honorable and keeps his promises, and at the very least tries not to kill innocents. Homelander doesn’t give a shit. Idk what butcher was thinking
Many people are not seeing this. SB’s level of jerk isn’t even close to the deranged Jerkism of Homelander.
@@plartoota4584 butcher only thinks in save rayan. this is why he fight sb.
Ryan renewing the next season everytime lmao
No one talks about the emotional intelligence and introspection Soldier Boy displayed when he calls Homelander a disappointment. When he looks at Homelander, he finally realizes what his father told him all those years ago was correct. And this is why I want a Soldier Boy redemption arc.
I bet he's getting one next season. He will team up with homelander to kill butcher, then likely go against homelander once Homelander does something drastic with his presidential power, by doing that he can let go of his feelings of being a dissapointment and actually be the "real man" and actually prove his worth.
Geez homelander is such a complex character, at one point he doesnt care if he has no one by his side, on the other hand, he would as far as beg for approval from someone else. That's why I love the character, so much depth!
I know everyone been saying it but man give Homelander all the Emmy’s this scene is just amazing and when he’s talking to the deep, Ashley and A train and just dissing them knowing they just gotta take it. This dude is just next lvl he’s getting up there with Walter whites, Tony soprano’s, don Drapers of the world
I just started binge watching all the episodes. This series is soooo good. Great acting, writing and effects. Every character has so many levels. It's addictive.
bru same😂, i watched from s1 just back to back & i couldn’t get enough of it bru
Same just did this past 2 weeks!@@beauty1nchaos
What a wholesome scene! Because of Ryan homelander and butcher became best pals!
Imagine a comedy show with HL, SB and Ryan as a family😂
Fiiire lol
The good ending.
@@Thomas-te2lgMore like the bad ending?
Lol the only thing that's keeping homelander from going completely insane was Ryan
Damn it I really hope this isn’t the last we see of Soldier boy he’s my fav character the way he’s portrayed in the show I hope he actually ends up killing homelander later,they should do that rather than it being a clone doing it in the comics
Soldier boy is a thrustworthy soldier! He did what he promised! But again betrayed!
Every person Homelander kills in S4 is Butcher's fault. Writers cornered themselves and had to kill a character to get out of the impasse. Show went from quality to just good entertainment.
And Maeve survived the fall lmaooo
2:05 when SB grabbed HL by the neck like this, I knew he was going to mess him up
HL Killed his only friend Noir just to be called a disappointing pwussy by the father he was mad he didn’t tell him about 💀
Good for him I hope they bring noir back that shit was so lame
Fr they killed him off so terribly ☠️all that build up for nothing
I love how they look at each other at the end like “we’re not ok but for now, we’re ok”
I love how in most tv shows/movies when children first exhibit their super powers, it’s usually at the expense of another unfortunate person. But in this case, after Ryan lasers soldier boy, he just gets back up and is like “turn that shit off”
This isn't the first time he used his powers. He vaporized like half of stormfronts body.
😂😂😂
I think what's amazing is that Soldier Boy literally became his own father despite hating him, while Homelander was able to escape that and actually care about his son. He wasn't manipulating Ryan in the garden, he actually wants the love of his son and I think that even though he's a psychopath, at least he'll be a better father than soldier boy ever could have been
Yeah until ryan annoys him,then who knows he can say the say thing of being a disappointment to him, a cycle of bad fathers
@@bartu913 it could go one of two ways with that. Either yeah, Ryan annoys him or Ryan literally becomes a mini HL which I see happening with that little sociopath smile he gave at the end
@@bartu913 I don't think so.