360° VR Proxy workflow with Adobe Premiere & Media Encoder in-depth
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- One of the essential parts of any 8K 360 VR video production is to master 360° VR Proxy workflow. Today, I will share my proxy presets on both PC and MAC, both monoscopic and stereoscopic to you. And I also teach you how to create your own 360VR proxy preset to streamline your workflow.
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Thanks for this vid!
Glad you enjoyed!
Thanx for providing your proxy presets, you rock !! 🤘😆
Glad you like them!
Thank You for detailed tutorial.
I gladly watch Your videos if I need to refill my knowledge database..)
Glad you like them!
I think I love you! I was tearing my hair out this past weekend trying to do simple GoPro Fusion and was about to give up. Every single adjustment I made, I would have to wait about an hour to render so I could choppily preview it. These Proxies are incredible! I'm using a 2011 iMac and it can even edit 360 videos!!
Awww thanks! I have more workflow tutorial to even speed up your fusion edit with new broadcast codec! Stay tuned!
Super helpful video and explanation. Thanks for both the PC/Mac instructions!
Thanks, bro!!!
Thanks for providing this proxy tut! I was able to create a custom proxy for 5 cameras
Nice yes you need proxy even with your brand new computer.
@@hughhou you're right. trial and error once i get it. import is to keep 2:1 ratio and DNxHD
You and your beautiful hair have helped me out soooooo much! Thank you!!
I'm so glad!
Thanks Hugh... I learn so much from your videos.
I am glad :)
you are my hero
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Fantastic video mate. This has helped me out loads.
Hey Hugh,
Great video, thank you for sharing this information. I've just started my 360° journey and appreciate all the help I can get. My question is, How are you able to remove the drone from the 360° footage?
Have you check out this video yet? I have many tutorials already cover this topic: ruclips.net/video/zXQdven-m1I/видео.html
Thanks a lot man!
thankyou!
Thank you! Can you create video about video codec that you use for 6k+?
It is in the preset download - I use DNxHR and CineForm interchangeable. Love to try the ProRes RAW tho when it is out! But need a more powerful Mac first lol.
Great Video well done - I gave you a like 👍
Awww thanks!!
Hi Hugh! At the 10:00 mark you mention something about a feature where you shoot at 30 but can double the frame rate. What were you referring to? Is that a Premiere feature or a GoPro feature?
That is a third party feature by Kandao - or use Twixtor in After Effects - not free.
Hey Hugh. Thank you for taking the time on making these tutorials. you're a life saver.
I'm on Windows with Premiere Pro 2020. Insta360 One R 360 Mod, @ 100fps.
I do not have any of the DNxHR codecs. I've been trying to find them for download but can't.
Can you shed any light on where to get the codecs?
Thank you
You mean PROXY for 100fps - you can create your own follow that tutorial - as 100fps will be a unique proxy.
Thanks so much, this has made editing VR possible for me! Only problem I'm having is that my proxy settings for my Insta360 One X footage in 5.7k are chopping out a whole section of the image. I used your divide-by-4 rule so the proxy is 1440x720. What am I doing wrong???
Sound strange. I will suggest download my proxy template or use the new proxy template from Adobe - I believe it is the DNxHR with 2880 x 1440 - and try it again.
Hi! My insta 360 footage looks like a kaleidoscope in goproreframe plugin, premiere pro. I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong.
Get there Mr.Hugh thank for all you do. I just installed the new GoPro plug-in. When I add the FX to my Insta OneX 360 it makes the video black. And when I play the video it's upside down and in different colors. P L E A S E H E L P thank you for your time!
Have you remove the Insta360 Premiere plugin and only add in the video file? Have you transcode it into ProRes before editing? Insta360 does not generate standard mp4 and lots of headache - standardize it into ProRes or Cineform before editing. And don't use their Premiere auto stitch.
Thanks large for this tutorial! Is anyone else having issues with Premiere while working on the footage? I created pro-res files, made proxies (720p) so usually when I do that I can work with footage quickly and easily. When I add the GoPro FX Reframe plugin, it makes Premiere run very slow.....it drops audio, skips around, playback wont start/stop right away and basically seems like my system is choking on the footage. When I try to keyframe it seems to get worse. I turned the quality playback to 1/4 and it seems to improve, but then after a while it will start having problems again playing back. I'm running a 2018 Macbook on Big Sur 11.2.1, Processor 2.6 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i7, memory 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4, Graphics Radeon Pro 560X 4 GB
Any ideas would be much appreciated!
Hey Ras, big fan! So Premiere GoPro FX Reframe is basically an After Effects plugin running inside Premiere - you will need enable GPU acceleration. But your 2018 Macbook pro GPU won't be fast enough - so you will neither need an eGPU or directly edit in After Effects. Let me know if you need more help. Feel free to reach out to us learning[AT]creatorup.com or hit me up on IG: hugh.hou - maybe we can collab and we can help edit your footage. Cheers!
@@hughhou Awesome much appreciated! Might be time for a new machine 😎
thanks for the video, would you recommend H.264 as a proxy candidate if you have disk space consideration? I have found that since the H.264 encoding is intraframe the performance is not bad but is your experience different?
Yes, don't use H.264 as proxy as Premiere need to decode to play back - so the better suggestion is get a bigger hard drive. You will get slower performance - slower than original if you use H.264 - not worth the effort.
@@hughhou Thanks. this was my original thought but for a long time of testing I found that H.264 proxies are preforming very well much better than original. especially with 4K highly compressed footage. I teach students with laptops so disk space for them is crucial. I have now just for test took a 4k equirectangle and proxied it to 1920x960 H.264 with 16CBR and it runs smoothly. the bar is yellow of course but performance is fine and much better. will keep testing taking all consideration into account.
which preset of yours would I use with my GoPro Fusion files?
The Monoscopic one
Hello, i would like know what is your pc configuration.
I'm working on 360 video in 4K on my laptop Asus Strix with intel i7 7th gen, 16 Go de Ram and Nvidia 1060 with 6Go DDR5.
But for 30s of 360 video with mocha pro effect to remove camera, Media encoder specifies 65 hours for the rendering process.
Is it normal that it takes all this time?
It should not. My spec is AMD X3990 with Titan RTX - 129G ram.
Great video, but could you put a small caption whenever you reference a model code.
I should. That is what I was missing. I will def do it next time!!
Thank you! A question, I tried last time to make a project with multiple sequences but as I finish and put them in one single sequence Premiere Pro starts to render again what I've already rendered before.
You mean pre-render for preview?
Yes! The yellow and red lines on the timeline reappear as I assemble the sequences and Premiere has to recalculate the stabilization again :/
I won't worry too much about the preview. Just render them.
Hey, nice tutorial! Thank you!
What pc do you have that you can play 8k smoothly? 🤔....
Not fancy at all. More than 1-year-old - Intel Xeon E5 (lower than i7 before i7 is available), GTX 1080ti, 128G ram - b/c I do lots of After Effects works but 32G is more than enough. Then SSD and RAID 0 for assets. Any machine you buy these days will be better than mine.
I got a system close to yours with a i9 7000X cpu insted, and I can't playback 8K, wonder why?:(
Question: can Premiere export a "plane" video from a 360 source, like it's possible in the Insta360 Studio for One X desktop app?
One X app has a plugin for Premiere to make Premiere to do that.
Hey Hugh, thanks so much for all the work you’ve done in sharing your knowledge, it’s incredibly helpful!
I’ve watched a lot of your different videos and have been working to get some 360 videos put together to play on the quest. Recently I thought I had figured out a good work flow (stitching in Mistika, importing into PP, using a proxy to edit, and exporting using aftercodecs) which seemed to be working, but all of a sudden now when I export in 360 from premiere pro (2020) in the video I am getting 180 degrees showing the video and the other 180 just black. Has this ever happened to you? Or do you have any ideas why this might have happened?
Wow that sound strange... no it never happen to me. Have you try to inject meta with Google meta injector to see if it fix the issue?
@@hughhou Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely try that out. I appreciate the help!
Will the insta360 pro preset work for Qoocam8k?
Yes - any 8K video will work.
Hey Hugh,
I'm trying to figure out how to set up a proxy for the insta360 pro and my question is, how do I keep the ambisonic data in proper channels? Do I even need to worry about it?
Not for proxy unless you move the center point of your video. Whenever you move your center point liking using the rotate sphere, you need to mark down how many degree you turn.
@@hughhou Then how do we set the ambisonic rotation to match rotate sphere properties?
Hey Hugh, thank you very much for all the videos. I have a question. What components do you have on your Windows computer? I recently made a machine thinking that I would not have problems editing 8K but in 6K 3D I still have problems. What do I have to consider more to have a more fluid work?
Thank you!
Def CPU - then GPU and RAM - then SSD
Hi there Hugh aka CreatorUp,
Thx again!
UNFORTUNATELY, my latest version of Premiere Pro CC (PC) does not give me the option 'VR' when selecting the format
- DNxHR/DNxHD MXF OP1a
(only option I have aside 'Quicktime' - and, as it's PC, no 'DNxHR' under the Quicktime umbrella.)
Many thanks,
Sandro
DNxHR is default in Premiere on PC - try to install Quicktime for PC from apple first and try again?
@@hughhou Thx heaps, Hugh, for the swift reply. I toyed with this option as well, I'm just a little worried about the fact that QuickTime is not officially available for Windows 10, as Apple stopped support for Windows back in January 2016.
Quicktime website (latest Jan, 2016):
Important: QuickTime 7 for Windows is no longer supported by Apple. New versions of Windows since 2009 have included support for the key media formats, such as H.264 and AAC, that QuickTime 7 enabled.
I am in this exact boat! I am on a PC and am wary of installing QT for the reasons you mentioned. Did you ever find a format that can be used on a pc that allows the VR option? (I know I’m replying to a 4 year old comment, but I’m pulling my hair out trying to make my own proxy! 😅)
Hi Hugh, do you still advise to use proxy in adobe premiere to edit qoocam 8k footage?
Watch my new tutorial - I start with Proxy workflow in Resolve: ruclips.net/video/xlOhluai5mk/видео.html - it is so important and I mentioned it in almost all my tutorials and people still complain about slow speed lol - yes Proxy workflow on ALL 360 related edit. This video is def a must for Premiere.
@@hughhou thanks buddy! I have a fast computer and good gpu card but even then 8k footage makes it quite slow :-)
I suggest to everyone to download Resolve 15 free (not the 16 beta version it's very buggy) and just use it to create proxies. It's SO MUCH FASTER than AME, I get 30-40 fps for a file that in AME renders at 5fps for the same settings. I use H264 because my computer can deal with it in ease. I wish Resolve had all the VR features in the CC suite and could export 8Kx8K (at the moment I can only export 5.7Kx5.7k, and again it's running super fast, like 10-15 fps). Working with the timeline in Resolve - I get no issues and very little lag working with 8Kx8K footage. It's only Adobe that's lagging.
Interesting. Do you use the new Fusion that supports 360VR editing? You should share a tutorial on Resolve editing workflow on a Pro level.
@@hughhou I plan to do a lot of videos on all the stuff I have learned so far :) I haven't tried Fusion 16 yet, I don't think it's free or that you can download a trial but I'll try! I am surprised they released a new version of it, as it was basically integrated into Resolve in the last version and seemed to have had exactly the same features and nodes, so I thought it would just be one product from now. I was always more into Stereoscopic stuff, VR is new for me. In Resolve 15 (and Fusion 9 which is integrated into it) it's actually much faster rendering-wise to work with your own stereoscopic workflow (cut the frame in the middle into two timelines and import them, sort of like you would pre-comp in after effects or nest sequences in Premiere) than use the Stereo tools/nodes they provide which are soooo slow but much more convenient. I understand that in 16 it's much faster and uses the GPU, so this is the first thing I want to check, but I am yet to test it - it took a while to get everything running even with the free version, it's buggy, I had to update my video drivers and not sure if it will support it.
I have a question for you - in AE - do I still have to split my stereo VR footage to separate compositions to work with the Edit VR tools? It's very difficult for example when 'painting' over my tripod to copy it from the left comp to the right, because you have to put the 'angle' in the edit view exactly the same in both and I am not sure how to even control it. It would be so good if it was possible to edit up/down together.
I've created h.246 proxies for GoPro 5.2K footage and some of the files lose the VR projection properties in Adobe PR, so the proxies show up as a tiny frame on my sequence, while some others retain the size of the 5.2k frame. All identify as proxy media but again, others lack the VR projection and don't fit the frame. Can you help?
Do you have VR projection effects on it?
@@hughhou No VR projection effects added. I think it may be a media encoder error when proxies are created but I haven't tested this out yet.
Hey Hugh!
Having alot of trouble with proxy workflow using the Insta360 Pro. Video files are very out of sync with the audio when editing in Premiere Pro. Any suggestions?
out of sync - are you using internal audio? Pro I strongly suggest use external spatial recorded like H2N or even 8Ball.
@@hughhou I used a Sennheiser AMBEO for external audio, but when creating the proxies through premiere, the clips did not match up. When toggling proxies on and off the proxy files video/audio are not in sync with the original media. Found a work around by doing my tripod and other object removal in after effects first and creating proxies from those exported files. Not sure what happened when creating proxies from the original stitched files, but tried the proxy workflow 3 times with the same out of sync result every time.