1993 Cadillac Fleetwood | Retro Review
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- This '93 Cadillac Fleetwood was the Mac! Can you imagine how delciously out of place the Fleetwood would look if Cadillac brought it back for 2023?
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THIS is a proper luxury car... before you auto journalists F'd them up saying they weren't sporty enough!
RIGHT! They wanted everything to drive like a damn 911 or SL600 of the day. They used to trash the Big 3 for "floaty rides" and soft seats. DUH!! It worked for 6 decades prior...
Well certainly not THIS journalists. Ultimately the end customers decided and went to sporty sedans and SUVs.
@@070nino070 but suddenly even the sporty sedans aren't even wanted. Its all about pickups and SUVs these days. But back then these cars were compared to 7-Series and Lexus LS', both of which don't sell anywhere near today's float boat, the MB S-Class.
@japanwatchconnection that's the whole point of these land yachts!!!
@@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032 exactly. Not everyone dreams of riding on slammed cars down the Autobahn. These cars were very suitable for America's poorly surfaced roads.
This thing became a true monster when it got the LT1 a year later.
@@bondedstars - I’ve read and heard others (such as Car and Driver) clocking in around the mid-to-high 7’s. Either time is still impressive when you consider (1) these things weight over two tons and (2) the LT1 in the Cadillacs (260 hp) were detuned compared to the Corvette (300 hp).
@@bondedstars it was good for the size and weight of the car
@@SmangItDrums they had the Buick Roadmaster LT1 at 6.7 seconds 0-60. And the Impala SS LT1 at 142 mph.
@@777jones You’re right, they tested a Buick Roadmaster and a Chevy Impala SS instead of the Fleetwood, all of which share the same platform (B-platform) and drivetrains (LT1, 4L60E automatic). Despite some minute difference in weight and packaging (the Roadmaster struggles with the tires it had), they’re all essentially the same vehicle.
@@SmangItDrums a tank too
Driving those cars was like riding on air while sitting on a recliner. I miss those kind of vehicles.
how is the reliability of these cars and where the expensive to repair?
Yes, Bayou on the armadillo TF
0-60 in 10.5, and "we couldnt feel the road." I love these old land yachts.
185 HP from a 5.7L V8…. only 1990s Detroit could manage such pathetic numbers
I remember those cars you couldn’t feel anything including the acceleration when the go pedal was buried into the carpet.
@japanwatchconnection I was moving and accelerating but it took like 30 seconds to get to 65 mph.
this is a big car it needs torque. Do you know how much Hp those big 18 wheeler have,? not much to pull 80,000 pounds in addition to the weight of the cab itself up to 120 mph, but they have a shit load of torque. Understand the difference and what they do are used for.
@@Brendonbosy This was 30 years ago, normal for that time ., look at the modern Cadillac like the Cadillac CTSV Blackwing.
Last of the GM luxobarges. Got better in 94 with the LT1 motor. They just ate up highway miles in smooth comfort.
Ghetto a-holes cut them up and put in switches, then Obummer had a lot of them destroyed with Cash for Clunkers
My dad's last Caddy purchase was a '96 burgundy Brougham, fully loaded. The car is still in my garage till this day and I get offers to buy it every single time I take it out, maybe 6-8 times a year. With the LT1, those things were sleepers of the day, yet offered a ride quality that is sorely missed in today's world of "luxury".
Imagine if Cadillac built a modern Fleetwood?? Maybe the Celestiq will be that vision.
My 2013 STS rides like it has No Suspension. To me, a Cadillac should ride Novocain Numb
Edit: should have been 2012
"Road feel" is still the most annoying term... I'm sitting in the left turn lane waiting for an arrow, not pulling laps of the Nürburgring. Who want's to feel these beat up roads?
That Caddy is a keeper. Everything luxury rides too stiff now because of idiot automotive writers, wannabe race car drivers.
1994+ models were sleepers like u said, given the fact the power was increased from 185hp to 260hp! (same engine/power as the legendary Impala SS of those same years).
@@TheBandit7613 - Yeah, damned car magazines convinced manufacturers that luxury cars should handle like a 'Vette and ride like a dump truck or they would down score them!
sadly nothing like that will come back, the only big luxury nowadays are gigantic SUVs and pickup trucks, and its a shame. "I want to sit up higher" I just want a boat with wheels.
Some people consider this the last TRUE Cadillac sedan. It indeed was the last body on frame Caddy sedan. Id never touch a DeVille but I'd love to own one of these. Timeless classic.
I hqve one for sale, for only $3500. Its a 95 with the LT1 and 178k miles no issues. Located in DC, Maryland Virginia area.
northstar devillde head gasket issues! there should have been a recall, or class action suit against cadillac
Nah the 06-11 Cadillac Deville Touring Sedan was
@@hitek9too255 Yeah, But they are FWD REAL DeVilles and Fleetwoods are RWD.
@@racerx2348
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I love how this Cadillac is the polar opposite of the Paseo you guys dug out of the archives last week. One thing you have to admit about the early 90s... there was plenty of variety in the automotive world.
Now cars are all the same
But it’s was the big cars last hurrah. The greatest generation and the silent generation drove them. Not even boomers drove these beast.
@@SataniaMcDowel not true! The chevy equinox is a 3 row family crossover powered by a v6! And the nissan Rouge is a 2 row active lifestyle suv with a 4 cylinder! They're totally different!
This just gives me the warm-n-fuzzies. Nothing like being a kid in the 90s and dozing off in the back seat of one of those... only thing that sucked was getting to the destination and being awakened, haha
Love domestic land yachts, miss them.
I just love that they mention towing capacity even in the early nineties for a sedan! Wow times have changed.
Yep, and 7k is nothing to sneeze at! That’s 1/2 ton territory now!
These cars had an actual FRAME instead of a "unibody", Pretty much built (structurally) the same as a full-size pickup truck, And the drivetrain delivered TORQUE in abundance!
Well you did see a lot of these cars hauling stuff. It's not like they couldn't do it.
Yep, funny how things were before pickups became such big business.
@dodgeguyz This was the towing capacity of the 1971-76 big Caddys too
This is what usually comes to my mind when I hear the word Cadillac. A big boat comfy cruiser.
Truly marvelous. Heartbreaking that having sedans like these around is no more. Thanks for uploading.
I miss those big sedans with rear wheel drive …some time we live in ..
@@supraforyears89 especially the 80's Cadillac wit those pillow top seats
@@SilentMovements305 check out the super puffy seats in a '74 to '76 Cadillac Talisman, only made for 3 years.
@@JxT1957 will do thanks for the info most likely outta state due to the current situation but really appreciate it
I had a '95 Fleetwood, and I loved it! Very spacious, the rear-wheel-drive was great and it was wonderfully comfortable. first car, even at 23 years old. I miss it.
My grandpa's friend just sold his 1994 Fleetwood Broughm he was the original owner I don't even think it had 100k on it, that car was kept up beautifully I almost offered to buy it now seeing the values of these things in great shape I wish I did.
Dsng, you should have, you would NEVER have regretted it! I bought mine in '19, and only 53k miles. Now it has 117k, and still has most of it's original parts. I only changed the starter and radiator and still wonderful to drive. But original ww tires are getting hard to find...but a Great car, dependable, no issues! I need another! 😃😂💪👍💯
@@elaineewalt8137Coker in California still sells proper white walls.
When John Davis says "throw the anchor out" during the brake test. I had to stop the video because I burst out laughing so hard! This is a true land yacht.
I loved that, too!
I wasn't listening when the video was showing the brake test. After I went back to actually listen to the narration, I can't get the image of the Fleetwood literally throwing the big old black anchor to stop the car.
I'd guess the skid pad rating on it was 40 on a dry day
Beautiful Caddy with that massive grille.
This is the type of car I miss the most.
reminds me of my OG Aurora, thing was massive and would haul ass!
Those old caddies were super comfy, best described as a living room on wheels. When I was in third grade till around age 15 my Uncle owned a 1990 Cadillac Brougham, with the trailer towing package. He had a pretty good sized camper at the time and, I recall falling asleep like a baby on the way to the campgrounds, which was a few hours away I think. Didn't even know you were pulling the camper unless you looked behind :) Sure, I love the new Escalade but so far out of my budget I'll likely never own one😖 which is the modern day equivalent of these giant American luxury cars that once ruled the roads and were a sign you made it, still the big SUV'S don't quite have the same feeling as a full size 6 passenger cars from a bygone time.
I remember seeing a bunch of these cars driving around in the mid to late 90s. Mostly older folks driving them lol
Thank you, Motorweek for another soul-soothing video!
I was always a big fan of Old school Cadillacs since the 80s in the 90s. The Fleetwood is one of my favorite vehicles of all time from the full size Cadillac era, a classic floating cruiser.
But I wouldn't drive in traffic. I might forget that I'm driving or at home sitting on a comfy couch. And don't let me talk about the roomy back seat the me and a woman would think about doing back there.
It was good they went for the 5.7L and not the Northstar 4.6L.
Had to wait 11 years before GM engineers made the Northstar a RWD-capable platform in the XLR.
Tune the Northstar a bit and drive it as it likes to be driven (rev it): And you will love it :)
Dnt say Northstar i have bad dreams when it comes to nor nor northstars
Thank God. Imagine the Devilles, El Dorados, and Sevilles with the 5.7 instead of the Northstar junk.
@@Herbsy11 Yea driven to the Junkyard.
i loved these cars in black with all chrome trim. i wish i had gotten one, they looked very comfortable.
Wow, I've never seen one of those! 🤔😉
Yes, it’s a fantastic combo, which is why I own two black 1995 Fleetwood Broughams. These cars visually are the equivalent of a man in a fine tuxedo: pure style and class.
My favorite car,owned a 95 for 2 years
Bought a 96 Fleetwood in 2013 and had it for a couple of years. It's quite rare here in sweden where I live. It was very comfortable.
My mom had a friend that worked for the post office who had one of these and he gave us a ride Home one day, this thing was immaculate, the smooth cloud on wheels ride and digital dash was beautiful.. I didn't even know these were Rwd because I remember around the 90s is when Cadillac switch to FWD
Most Cadillac models were FWD after 1985, BUT they kept the big RWD sedan platform around until 1996.
"worked for the post office"
Lol
@@zackc.8015 😔 ✉️
I think Cadillac needs to bring back a similar car. I am the last of my friends that still drives a sedan. Not sure I’d ever want to go the SUV route.
They tried the XTS, which was about as similar as you can get at the time without investing in a whole new platform. The XTS didn’t prove overly popular.
The CT6 was a great option, though it was never designed to be the posh, luxury float of the old school caddy’s, but again, just didn’t prove overly popular.
Had a 92 and liked it a lot. Drivers seat allowed me to get in and out during a time when I had great difficulty. I had virtually no repairs with my used Cadillac. I didn’t like the constantly changing speedometer and analog would have been better for me.
King of the Road.
I hope a 1998 cadillac sts road test one of my favorites from the 90s with the 94 to 96 cadillac fleetwood
There’s a baby blue one here in town with no rag top that thing is sweet.
Ah yes, the last great Caddy, before the curse of the Escalade and Navigator ruined the road...
@japanwatchconnection Absolutely. Caddy wasn’t looking towards the future in the 90s. It was riding the past. I’m surprised it didn’t go under with Pontiac. In the 90s no one care what generation X wanted but the Japanese and maybe Jeep. Todays land boats are the Ford 250, Ram 2500 extra cabs the boomers drive.
@@map3384 yes big bodies like fleetwoods caprice and town car turned in to suvs that we have today
2:26 John: Despite variable assist power steering, we couldn’t feel the road! LOL
The end of an era, the last of the full frame rear wheel drive land yachts of yesteryear. In my humble opinion the land yachts of yesteryear were GM's golden years. Cadillac has become a compact euro sedan wannabe nameplate. The Escalade, while luxurious is essentially an overpriced rebadged lesser model GM full-sized pick-up truck.
What about the Lincoln Towncar? That soldiered on much longer
@japanwatchconnection I think it’s very sad that they have gone. Stigma is so misplaced, they were really good cars. In reality the full frame Escalade and Navigator are the modern equivalents.
@japanwatchconnection I had two Lincoln Towncars around age 27-32, one my father bought me before someone hit and ran. Also, a lot young guys in Maryland, Virgina, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Texas, etc were driving these and still to this day.
I like that they have a 4 Note Horn, that screams 'Get the F out of the Way, Cadillac coming through'. unlike the Pipsqueak Horn of other cars, that say in a very meek voice, Excuse me, can you Please move, Pretty Please'
Agree 100%…it’s a real man’s horn, lol.
That trunk can compete with many truck beds! The perfect car for an Ikea visit!
*I LOVED THE HORN* in the end.
Damn, thats nostalgic!
I wish GM would re-release some of these types of cars, perhaps update with more airbags or something. If they did them in small batches I think they’d have good sales - I would LOVE to have one. I miss a column shift and front bench seat, I’d like to have arm around my wife as we go for a Sunday drive, windows down, nowhere to go, just a relaxing drive.
never happen. i feel ya but we arent the norm. everyone else wants 15 screens, a huge console, the car to stop brake park drive itself. huge ass wheels. i mean toyota doesnt even build a bench seat truck anymore.
I like a bench seat. And who needs "road feel"? I don't want to feel or hear anything from outside of the car. Great video.
@@starkparker16 i mean im the same way. i only want to hear the v8 and i want to feel like im on a couch.
@@starkparker16 yes!🏆
If Lincoln did it a few years ago, I can't understand why gm can't.
I fell in love with this car when I saw a shop in my city build one that quietly ran the quarter mile in low 13's at Great lakes Dragway in 2000. The exhaust tone was no louder than a new v8 SUV.
I am happy with my 1993 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. I bought that car back in December 29th, 2023, that car had no rust and 4 brand new tires. I’ve never owned a GM Vehicle in my life
If only they had made a two door. My grandpa had a 79 Coupe de Ville that I still long for.
I always wanted one of these, but I haven’t been able to find a mint 95-96 yet.
Imagine if they had used the ZR1 LT5 in the Fleetwood, a high tech 5.7L V8 that was significantly more powerful than BMW’s 5.0L V12 and only slightly less powerful than Mercedes 6.0L V12.
That monster would've been just crazy ridiculous.... DEFINITION OF OVERKILL
I got a 95 for sale, 178k white no issues
@@detonater1348
Where is it?
@@elaineewalt8137 silverspring MD 20783
It would have killed people with that soft suspension
I love how the video finished with a couple of honks of the odd and unique Cadillac horn.
I love these old videos. Makes me happy
Rode in one of these often back in the day; my buddy's father had one and he would often take us both to school. I don't think I've ever ridden in a car that had as soft a ride as this one before or since, and I've also never been as carsick (or should I say 'seasick' since it was indeed a land yacht) as I was in that car!
I wish they would make an old fashioned luxury trim for the CT5 and call it the Fleetwood
My homie has a 94 Fleetwood currently in garnet red metallic. His is clean as hell and has a horn that sounds like a train horn lol It is huge but looks so graceful and that to me is what Cadillac should be about.
Holy cow!!!! 3000kgs towing capacity!?!? Thats more than some modern crossovers!
I freaking LOVE these old huge Caddies
Man these was the last great days of Cadillac especially to the stuff they have now.
Thank you once again! Thank you for providing this review. I look forward to more. This was a nice car. I know as many have said the power was upgraded in 1994 to 260 hp. The car had all the right attributes. I can appreciate that. I wonder how a Cadillac CT6 and this car would compare against each other in 2022. What will the Cadillac Celestiq bring?
A battery powered car!? CT6 is a whole different conversation.
Big road barges will always exist because there will always be a portion of the population that is rich enough not to care about how much they consume or how much it costs. Nowadays, you see it more in gigantic luxury trucks, especially those that cost $80k and the owners have invested (wasted) another $15k in lift kits, giant wheels and tires, removing emissions equipment, adding nuisance lights, train horns, etc. 8 MPG? Coal from the exhaust pipe? Perfect!
These car manufacturers politely excuse the factor of ego, when they design a car. They want everyone to be on the same page, and it just wont happen. When things don't go their way sales wise. They manufacture a stupid excuse for why they are failing...."Oooh, EvErYBoDy WaNtS a CrOssOvEr" pathetic, and uninspired throwaways.
Ahh those were real cars! Miss that era.
I hope the upcoming Celestiq will bring Cadillac back to its former glory
Very possibly. Caddy is sad to be benchmarking the Phantom for that car.
@japanwatchconnection Cadillac has a chance to redeem themselves with Zoomers that didn't witness their atrocities in the 80's, but know the CTS-V
@@cra_55 The designs in the 80s, were timeless. Look up the used price for any Brougham..16 or better...this generation is not as trusting, plus they know how to use a computer vs a screw driver.
Here we are in 2024 and sadly, more of the same crap. The Charger/300 was the last of the breed with its V8 power and RWD sedan layout
I think it was in 1993 Fleetwood my family and I rented when I was a little kid it was the coolest car I ever ridden in at the time and will never forget it this old skool test brought back so many memories & for this thing to be capable to tow over 7,000 lb is so impressive that's more than a Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD off road truck can pull! Like they say, they don't build them like they used to apparently.. not if a Cadillac sedan can pull more than a Toyota Tacoma truck
Love these‼️
Oh how I wish I had one of these!
1993 Cadillac Fleetwood: the Official Car of "Hey kids, I don't want to alarm you, but this might be Pop-Pop's last Christmas with us."
I remember when my sister's ex-boyfriend bought his first car - 1994 Cadillac Sedan Deville. I rode in it one time and got so sick from how floaty it was. Never again. Lol
Sim-con top too! 😁 honestly though, if you’re doing 500+ mile days, this is your vehicle for comfort if not fuel mileage.
Always wanted one of these, with the LT1, the 1996 version was a bit nicer and faster.
It is! 😉😃👍
Cadillac Fletwood is one of the best American cars and was in the s70 and s80 and s90, spread on the streets of the Arab Gulf countries in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Oman and Bahrain
Wow that is a beast! I can imagine that thing is perfect for the nice long road trip!
Most definitely a beauty
Good stuff I as a kid in the early 1980's my uncle Tony who had Fleetwood brougham model and was great riding in the back
My friends dad owned one. He was a 5’3” Chinese man
Few things are more satisfying than watching a GM B-Body in a handling and breaking test
"Should have come with a harbor pilot"
"Throw the anchor out"
Go Autoweek staff go!!
You couldn’t have paid me to drive something like this when I was younger. Now I love them. I said I wouldn’t too, so totally failed in that regard. I don’t mind though. Being comfortable is an art.
'93-96 models have the highest tow rating of a passenger car (excluding trucks and vans) when factory equipped (Caprice and Roadmaster were 2,000 lb less at 5,000). August 1993 Popular Mechanics has a road test of the Fleetwood Brougham's towing capacity. In exterior dimensions the final generation was similar to the 1965 models in length (but larger in interior).
I just bought a lavender '93 Fleetwood about a month ago. Absolutely loving it.
How much? How
Many miles?
Last of the true rear drive caddy’s! I wish I could say it was the last of the real caddy’s, but that was in the 70’s!
80s
Under the skin, this was pretty much the same car as the '77 DeVille. 🤷♂
Back when caddy made their own v8s with over 500ci then started using the Bowtie smallblock V8 mostly the 350
1976 was the last real big one. they shortened them in 1977
The Blackwings are rear wheel drive.
I almost bought a 1995 model a few years ago. I still want one.
I love all of the boat puns
This is really making me miss my 93 and 96 Roadmasters! I got videos of them :)
Fleetwood could look real good in a modern Caddy design language. It's already fairly angular, especially the rear.
Look at those comfy front seats…great highway cruiser
What a great car. Now that is Cadillac Style.
Younger affluent customers who now recognize Cadillac as a viable alternative to the luxury imports. That's funny, and I think he said it with a straight face
This is equal to a 75k 80k caddy these days..and 7000k towing capacity that's crazy for a Cadillac
Had a fully-loaded 93 Brougham in triple black. Everything was fine until the 70K mile mark, when GM B-bodys just plain start falling apart. Same thing happened to the 93 Caprice I had previously, right around the same mileage mark. I understand the newer powertrain they got with the LT1 V8 from 94-96 is better all-around, both performance and reliability, but I never found one of those in decent enough shape to buy, and both the 93's I had were mechanical nightmares, so I switched to Ford Panthers. Not as distinctive or decadent by a longshot, but they're lightyears more reliable. and much cheaper to fix when they do break.
The Escalade was the true replacement, although the CT6 was great after the refresh.
Fun fact: The CT6's wheelbase was actually 0.9 inch LONGER than that of the Fleetwood.
The 1994 model thankfully got the LT1 and 260hp. I pain for those that bought this 93’
Old people who bought these probably didn't give a rats arse about the engine!
@bob Bob: I owned one for over 8 years. That 350 TBI was plenty powerful, even with steep 2.56 gears. Highway mpg rivaled 4cyl, bout 30mpg if you stayed between 55-60mph.
Those 350 TBIs were ultra-reliable though. Some of the LT1s had issues with the plastic intakes and other issues, but they were definitely powerful for the day.
You can always add a supercharger to the 93 if you want extra HP.
Don't knock it, that engine was no slouch. Granted, it wasn't a rocket ship by any means, but that wasn't the point of the car. The power band was smooth, and the torque would snap your neck back into the soft leather seats. Not to mention how incredibly reliable that motor was. Every sensor on that could go out, but as long as the engine had fuel, air, and a spark, it was start every time.
Now THAT'S a Cadillac!
I laughed when John was going through the braking test and said... throw the anchor ⚓ out lol
I love the interior! The outside, not so much, but still great cars.
Ummm the Town Car does not have a harsher ride and a smaller interior. The suspension on a Town Car without the HPP is much softer than the Fleetwood. The Town Car may have only a 5,000lb towing capacity but that 4.6 is more powerful and outperforms that 350 all day long. 185hp for the 350 V8 vs 190hp for the single exhaust 4.6 and 210hp for the dual exhaust 4.6. Quicker to 60 by 2 full seconds, the Lincoln blows the doors off that Caddy.
Looks nice 😊.
Beautiful car that is aesthetically appropriate both inside and out. If I ever found one in a darker trim. I would buy in a heartbeat.
Also If anyone knows the music playing from the radio, please let me know, because that just adds that extra nostalgic touch.
I love these cars must have E.S.P. was thinking to myself hope motorweek do a review of the 93 Fleetwood got my wish. My aunt and I used call these the Preacher's car usually pastors drive these in my small town had few were pastors drove these. This and the Roadmaster were my favorite cars looked stylish and was definitely safe read a review of one when someone had one got into a wreck with another (smaller car) the people in the Fleetwood walked away unharmed the Fleetwood didn't get messed up as bad unfortunately other was destroyed the passenger died and driver of other car was serious hurt show how safe these cars were. They are rare now haven't seen one of these big floaters in years now.
7000 pound towing capacity? That is absolutely insane.
Not really.
I have driven three box fleetwoods and am satisfied with all.
Man, we've come along way! 😆
They were quite a thing! Setting sail as you pull into traffic!
1993 the year I was born! Thank you Motorweek for uploading this awesome vid of one of my favorite 90s big luxury cars!!😀😃👍😎
This is a 1992 episode, not 1993. Check the description.
I miss cars like this...
Love to know where I can get that extra low tone horn that they added to the standard 2 tone horn setup. Makes that car sound like a mini locomotive.
I love old Town Cars, and have never liked fender skirts, or whatever they're called, over the rear wheels. But for some reason, I'd take this Caddy of the Town Car of the same vintage all day.