Strangely enough, and while I mostly agree with Hedges on many points, he himself uses the language, quoting individuals, like Alexander Berkman, which only very educated people ever heard of, to make his case. This is mostly counter-productive, I believe. On the other hand, making international connections, not just here at home, is important. To this end, Paul Jay mentioned, that perhaps these new trade agreements, once passed, will serve as a wake-up call to most Americans, that they have been ultimately screwed. The problem with this thinking is this: none of these changes will happen overnight, or suddenly. They are being introduced slowly and deliberately, so as NOT to cause widespread social upheaval in the present tense. All you have to do, is to witness the appeal of the so-called 'sharing' economy, postulated by the biggest tech companies in Silicon Valley. It seems perfectly sensible to young people to supplement their income this way, while wages are kept at bottom. But the larger objective here is, by the actual owners of these companies, to undermine labor rights and collective bargaining all-together - and these are projects which are being implemented globally, as we speak. In other words, labor needs to be flexible, i.e. via the elimination of social safety-nets provided by the state(s) in order to fulfill the profit motives of huge corporations, which by extension, can hold not only local communities hostage, via tax avoidance on a global scale, but entire countries as well. None of this trickles down, of course, but trickles up - the result being, that the people and their own governments are co-opted into a system in winners take all, and losers become invisible altogether. It is not just the main-stream media which promote these detrimental policies, but also increasingly the alternative media, most of them web-based, and ultimately swallowed up by huge corporations, such as Google, in order to survive financially. If anything, and with spread of social media everywhere, what we are witnessing here is essentially a complete dumbing down of society, and this includes the entire western hemisphere, on the altar of global corporate interests. Nobody knows, how this will play out in the long run, particularly with looming and already present resource-wars well underway. Global climate change, over time, may in fact create enough global chaos, so that even the elites will start genuinely fighting amongst themselves, with unknown consequences, the worst being global nuclear war. The best being, a retreat unto their own islands short-term, separating themselves from the rest of humanity, which will muddle along as usual. The precious metals needed in order to sustain their satelite feeds and smart phone technology would break down in a matter of decades, since there won't be any more miners left, all starved to death by then, who would get these metals out of the ground, while their robotic technology is being attacked by those still living. You can build entire cities (as China was doing) in a speculative bubble, in which nobody lives - can afford to live - and continue to live a life-style based on throw-away consumption. But in the end, none of this is sustainable, unless you find another planet to live on, and very quicky. As far as privatization of space is concerned, and due to the quest for un-ending profits, the rockets tend to crash rather quickly. Evidently, companies like Google are not even thinking beyond their own profit margins, while being perfectly capable, financially, to transition this planet towards renewable energy. What do they do instead? Marketing schemes for short term investments in self driving cars and drones. It's utterly ridiculous at this point.
Worth the listen ,good interview x3....ps its a tough call uniting the workers were here in the UK they suceeded in dividing the workers into turning against those on WELFARE ..were the model ( soon to be ) will be workers working for an amount that they would have had on WELFARE.. we've got our work cut out here in the UK..
Sound advice on protests... 🌈🦉NB: At 17:20. What happened to Bernie Sanders? 🤨 And where the corporations procure the cheapest labour - in "state" prisons. 👎
Criticize Sanders if you want, but suggesting he should run unaffiliated shows gross ignorance of election law. Running unaffiliated for president is impossible unless you've got money like Perot. It takes that to pay all the petition circulators you have to hire to get on the ballots. Even Perot could only afford it once.
jedgarsquink We could say Perot afforded it twice, but the second time he started a party and sent the petition circulators out to get ballot lines for that. That got the party ballot lines in some states for the next election cycle. If Perot hadn't done that, most likely Jesse Ventura would only be a former wrestler, not a former governor. The party still exists in some form. It still has a ballot line in Minnesota, under a new name.
Anthony Serocco That's not the biggest point. Systemic change is required. Money in politics ignores how the system will eventually route around that to find a new way to exploit those that have less access to resources.
Jagos You can't get anything done with money in politics. It's the most important step because it's the step you have to do right now. You can't even get into discussions over how to change the system without cutting off its supply line.
Which is why Paul Jay and Hedges both approve, sorta, of the free trade deals passing. They think that's so extreme, it's the only way to really radicalize workers internationally. But that's a pipe dream. It didn't work for communism and it wouldn't work for socialism. You must cut off capitalism by its source - money. Existential questions about what is a job, what makes a job, what is money, what it is worth to all, and so forth.
Anthony Serocco It took 40 years to undermine that exact part. People don't realize that the way to win the fight is to route around the Supreme Court which is the Corporate Courts of America. Getting organized with workers is our fight, regardless of the monetary advantage. I mean, seriously, how do you expect to have a fair shot in corporate media that only cares about undermining your ability to gain an audience? You think if we get money out as shown with Teddy Roosevelt's laws, as well as pushing Nixon to approve of the FOIA and the EPA, that there won't be some other shenanigans? The focus should be on the system, not just a new form of regulation.
I am struggling to have to disagree with Chris who is really our main man objectifying language for everyone to connect the dots. It is all on a spectrum and sliding scale. It depends on how unjust and violent the system has become. In the 60s we have the culmination of slavery and extreme violence against blacks in this country. Poverty, education, and joblessness were extreme. Blacks were shunned and treated like animals. They were being hosed beaten and lynched with no judicial foundation. Young black men in the later sixties were being sent en mass to Viet Nam. There comes a point where violence is the only recourse under such tyranny. Otherwise, you get situations like Jews riding trains with a one-way ticket. This is an imperialist dystopian wasteland that spends trillions blowing up people in third world countries while war profiteers wet themselves and oligarchs are hard-pressed to drop even scraps down the line. I am surprised that black culture can still take so much shit without having exploded. It is all aligning with the poor, middle class, and blacks being screwed from every angle for decades. This corporate-owned government wants all the power and control. So let us volunteer to hand over our guns as well. I don't think any anti-fascist/tyranny-fighting partisans in history ever volunteered to hand their guns over to any government.
Superb gentlemen!
Brilliant interview. Thanks.
brillant interview...thank you
Keep going.
Between then and now, Bernie has learned.
"I can NOT betray the Palestinian people!"
The Zeitgeist Movement.
A resource based economy.
wish you could interview James Ketchum on this topic.... that might be epic. Really enjoy this show, thank you.
Strangely enough, and while I mostly agree with Hedges on many points, he himself uses the language, quoting individuals, like Alexander Berkman, which only very educated people ever heard of, to make his case. This is mostly counter-productive, I believe. On the other hand, making international connections, not just here at home, is important. To this end, Paul Jay mentioned, that perhaps these new trade agreements, once passed, will serve as a wake-up call to most Americans, that they have been ultimately screwed. The problem with this thinking is this: none of these changes will happen overnight, or suddenly. They are being introduced slowly and deliberately, so as NOT to cause widespread social upheaval in the present tense. All you have to do, is to witness the appeal of the so-called 'sharing' economy, postulated by the biggest tech companies in Silicon Valley. It seems perfectly sensible to young people to supplement their income this way, while wages are kept at bottom. But the larger objective here is, by the actual owners of these companies, to undermine labor rights and collective bargaining all-together - and these are projects which are being implemented globally, as we speak.
In other words, labor needs to be flexible, i.e. via the elimination of social safety-nets provided by the state(s) in order to fulfill the profit motives of huge corporations, which by extension, can hold not only local communities hostage, via tax avoidance on a global scale, but entire countries as well. None of this trickles down, of course, but trickles up - the result being, that the people and their own governments are co-opted into a system in winners take all, and losers become invisible altogether.
It is not just the main-stream media which promote these detrimental policies, but also increasingly the alternative media, most of them web-based, and ultimately swallowed up by huge corporations, such as Google, in order to survive financially.
If anything, and with spread of social media everywhere, what we are witnessing here is essentially a complete dumbing down of society, and this includes the entire western hemisphere, on the altar of global corporate interests.
Nobody knows, how this will play out in the long run, particularly with looming and already present resource-wars well underway. Global climate change, over time, may in fact create enough global chaos, so that even the elites will start genuinely fighting amongst themselves, with unknown consequences, the worst being global nuclear war. The best being, a retreat unto their own islands short-term, separating themselves from the rest of humanity, which will muddle along as usual.
The precious metals needed in order to sustain their satelite feeds and smart phone technology would break down in a matter of decades, since there won't be any more miners left, all starved to death by then, who would get these metals out of the ground, while their robotic technology is being attacked by those still living.
You can build entire cities (as China was doing) in a speculative bubble, in which nobody lives - can afford to live - and continue to live a life-style based on throw-away consumption. But in the end, none of this is sustainable, unless you find another planet to live on, and very quicky. As far as privatization of space is concerned, and due to the quest for un-ending profits, the rockets tend to crash rather quickly.
Evidently, companies like Google are not even thinking beyond their own profit margins, while being perfectly capable, financially, to transition this planet towards renewable energy. What do they do instead? Marketing schemes for short term investments in self driving cars and drones. It's utterly ridiculous at this point.
he went to same schools as the very rich only on scholarship so he knows exactly how that elitist class thinks and speaks...good...a insider viewpoint
Worth the listen ,good interview x3....ps its a tough call uniting the workers were here in the UK they suceeded in dividing the workers into turning against those on WELFARE ..were the model ( soon to be ) will be workers working for an amount that they would have had on WELFARE.. we've got our work cut out here in the UK..
"If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." - Firesign Theater
Sound advice on protests... 🌈🦉NB: At 17:20. What happened to Bernie Sanders? 🤨 And where the corporations procure the cheapest labour - in "state" prisons. 👎
What is the breaking point? The longer it takes the more vicious it will be.
Come on, Wolff has articulated the workers' coop again, a US kibbutz? Is that an alternative?
Criticize Sanders if you want, but suggesting he should run unaffiliated shows gross ignorance of election law. Running unaffiliated for president is impossible unless you've got money like Perot. It takes that to pay all the petition circulators you have to hire to get on the ballots. Even Perot could only afford it once.
jedgarsquink We could say Perot afforded it twice, but the second time he started a party and sent the petition circulators out to get ballot lines for that. That got the party ballot lines in some states for the next election cycle. If Perot hadn't done that, most likely Jesse Ventura would only be a former wrestler, not a former governor. The party still exists in some form. It still has a ballot line in Minnesota, under a new name.
When the armed forces of the Establishment refuse to fire...🌈🦉
Hedges misses the biggest point: money in politics.
Remove that, and things get much easier.
Anthony Serocco Hedges misses a lot. He has an agenda not intellect.
Anthony Serocco That's not the biggest point. Systemic change is required. Money in politics ignores how the system will eventually route around that to find a new way to exploit those that have less access to resources.
Jagos You can't get anything done with money in politics. It's the most important step because it's the step you have to do right now. You can't even get into discussions over how to change the system without cutting off its supply line.
Which is why Paul Jay and Hedges both approve, sorta, of the free trade deals passing. They think that's so extreme, it's the only way to really radicalize workers internationally.
But that's a pipe dream. It didn't work for communism and it wouldn't work for socialism. You must cut off capitalism by its source - money. Existential questions about what is a job, what makes a job, what is money, what it is worth to all, and so forth.
Anthony Serocco It took 40 years to undermine that exact part. People don't realize that the way to win the fight is to route around the Supreme Court which is the Corporate Courts of America. Getting organized with workers is our fight, regardless of the monetary advantage. I mean, seriously, how do you expect to have a fair shot in corporate media that only cares about undermining your ability to gain an audience?
You think if we get money out as shown with Teddy Roosevelt's laws, as well as pushing Nixon to approve of the FOIA and the EPA, that there won't be some other shenanigans?
The focus should be on the system, not just a new form of regulation.
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I am struggling to have to disagree with Chris who is really our main man objectifying language for everyone to connect the dots. It is all on a spectrum and sliding scale. It depends on how unjust and violent the system has become. In the 60s we have the culmination of slavery and extreme violence against blacks in this country. Poverty, education, and joblessness were extreme. Blacks were shunned and treated like animals. They were being hosed beaten and lynched with no judicial foundation. Young black men in the later sixties were being sent en mass to Viet Nam. There comes a point where violence is the only recourse under such tyranny. Otherwise, you get situations like Jews riding trains with a one-way ticket. This is an imperialist dystopian wasteland that spends trillions blowing up people in third world countries while war profiteers wet themselves and oligarchs are hard-pressed to drop even scraps down the line. I am surprised that black culture can still take so much shit without having exploded. It is all aligning with the poor, middle class, and blacks being screwed from every angle for decades. This corporate-owned government wants all the power and control. So let us volunteer to hand over our guns as well. I don't think any anti-fascist/tyranny-fighting partisans in history ever volunteered to hand their guns over to any government.