to be fair ... Star Wars, Back to the Future and Pirats of the Caribbean the Movies were a one Movie deal, the Storys for Part 2 and 3 came later. With LorR the full Story was already there from the Start.
@@matijasostojic4288In the scene when Viggo kicks the helmet, he actually broke two of his toes so his scream was real. One of those fun facts long time LOTR fans have to bite back from sharing every time we show the movie to someone new 😂
Well they were correct since they are sadly watching the theatrical cuts and as such are missing a lot of context. Haldir is insignificant without the extended editions. But like another xomment said, the "real" Haldir in the books is never said to have died during the war, since the elves never went to HD, because Lorien, Mirkwood, Beorn's people, Erebor and Dale where all busy fighting Mordor and Dol Guldur invading the lands seen in The Hobbit, because the War of The Ring was not limited to south and south-east Middle-Earth.
The elves and dwarves were both fighting orcs on different fronts but they have no way to convey that in the movie without shoehorning it in their so the elves showing up to help is a nice cinematic way of representing that.
@Golladan Yeah😂 they were so many on set injuries during the filming, but they kept going "Show Must Go On" they say, and this is exactly how great things are made. Just to see a pure level of dedication from everyone participating in this movie...magic😄
It's important to note that Gandalf isn't human. He's essentially and angel/minor deity, sent in a human body to help guide and advise the people of Middle Earth
He totally understood the Gift of Men in that moment, though. Super cool to see! It’s weird to think of death as a gift but for immortal elves, forever bound to the fate of this world, watching it wind and wear down, and forever remembering the glory of past ages and carrying the pain of thousands of years of loss, death can be seen as a gift. Idk, I’m rambling but I felt like he totally summarized the gift in that one sentence.
Viggo Mortensen grew up on a ranch in Argentina. He knows horses. In order to really bond with the horse in the movie, he actually slept in the stable.
And he bought three of the horses from the production after the last movie. He gifted one of them to Arwen's stunt double as she had bonded with it, but couldn't afford it.
When Uraeus, the horse that played Brego died at 28, Viggo Mortensen - who bought his after filming - posted: “Aged 28, but a timeless presence in the minds of those who had the honour of knowing this proud, handsome, and supremely intelligent being, mighty Uraeus has finally come to rest on the physical plane. Thank you, Jane and Ray, for helping him do so with dignity. Dearest friend and teacher, I hold you and keep you.”
Something I learned recently that blew me away. Many of the riders of Rohan were women with exceptionaly well done makeup and fake facial hair. It was easier to find female riders because horseback riding is a predominantly female sport.
@@hebercluff1665 Any sport related to horseback riding is going to prefer people who are lighter weight. Which is why Jockeys are incredibly short men.
@@hebercluff1665 Right, but horses are expensive, and are rarely bought outside of an expectation that they'll play a role in some sort of sport, or breeding for some sort of sport. Hence the correlation.
The actor who played Aragorn had the idea for Brego, the horse he set free, to kneel down to save Aragorn. He spent months training the horse to gently lie down beside him so that scene could be in the movie.
There was just so much preparation for months and years before filming that production companies don't allow for anymore because they figure they can release 3 or 4 movies in the time it takes to make one of these and they will make more money combined first weekend so it doesn't matter. It took 8 years total for the three films to be produced. They had armorers forging real armor, people planting the crops in the shire months ahead of time, etc. Now they just add that stuff in with CGI and call it a day and it looks terrible.
Sam's quote about great stories is one of my favorites. It's so meta and meaningful. The stories we fall in love with as kids really do shape us, LOTR, Hobbit, Harry Potter, fairytales, Starwars, classics, horror... And not all, but a lot of those stories carry the lessons of "good" and "strength." The fact that one of the characters who does this for so many admits to also being influenced in this way is really touching, and it feels like Tolkien is speaking in that moment. 💙
There are several scenes that give me same vibe. This Sam quote, Gendalf's "Can you give the life?", Gendalf words about "this is not the end" and golden shores, Sam and Frodo "Do you remember..." at the end of their journey.
Though "watching the return of the king extended" has been a crucial mistake, as much of Boromir's backstory they asked for in the first film was included in the two towers... 😕
Edoras was in fact a real place. The film crew constructed the town upon that hill amongst the mountains in the South Island of NZ. Nothing remained after the filming had concluded as the crew dismantled the town and made sure they left the area as they found it. This was done in order to preserve the environment and its natural beauty.
Not to mention that the Golden Hall was actually used as an administration office because it was the only solidly built place free from the wind in the area for the second unit.
They went so far to not harm the horses, the nature, etc that the tree that the orcs take down in Isengard when they start building the army is fake. Unlike rings of power, where one of the horses died. Good thing it’s just fanfic written by modern writers, that means we miss nothing by not watching it :)
Damn, the reaction of you girls in the gandlaf the White reveal is priceless, you felt that 100% as it was intended, really glad to see the movie and it's amazing characters inspire such strong emotions!!
When new people who watch these or who couldnt get into it when they were younger start crying at Gandalf's return, you know they're invested into the movie.
Girls reaction to Gandalf's return was one of the sweetest things I've seen amongst the reactions to LOTR. A lot of people are holding back from being upset when he "dies" and start to intellectualize instead of just reacting to the story and when he comes back they would say that they knew he wasn't dead all a long. Great for them, i guess, but not fun if you watch a reaction and want to see some genuine emotions.
I know when I read the books the first time as a kid, when Gandalf revealed himself to Aragorn Legolas and Gimli my mind was blown, because the books aren’t exactly clear until this point what Gandalf actually is, you simply know him as a powerful and mysterious wizard figure. But then he says he was known as Olorin in the west in his youth and you realize he is powerful being far beyond elves men or dwarves.
So true what you say. I don't know if I took it like that when I first watched it when it came out. But watching it as you get older and lose parents and have children it hits so differently now. Tears flow freely at those moments Gandalf's death and Boromeirs death in the fellowship. Gandalf's touching scene with frodo sitting on the rocks in moria gets tears from me every time. Love your family and your people while they are here, for eventually we will all pass to the next life.
The theatricals are fine for first-time viewers, some of the extended scenes really should've been left on the cutting board. The scene with Faramir and Boromir should've been left, and the seen in RotK with Saruman should've been left in, but a lot of others are just fluff that nerds will like and normal people will just wonder why it's there.
@@emPtysp4ce Why do you think that? It makes zero sense. Why introduce someone new to these glorious films and then not show them the best version of the films?
@@emPtysp4ce If you think most scenes for the extended edition is just for nerds you're an idiot. I'm sorry but you just are, most of them give life to the world and give you a better understanding of the Characters.
hearing girl with the cool headband say something like "the world tolkien created is so cool" just gave me the biggest smile ever. i cant help but picture tolkien just smiling hearing that too. thanks for the content team!
The thing about Elrond is that he IS a half-elf. Half-elves in this universe can basically choose to become fully elf and retain their immortality or choose their human half and become mortal. Elrond chose his elven heritage while his brother became human and died a long time ago, and now Elrond's children have the same choice. He knows that if Arwen chooses a mortal life then she will die in the blink of an eye and he will never see her again.
Well, technically, only the line of Beren and Lúthien receive this privilege, since Lúthien gave up her immortality for Beren (Aragorn in the first movie: "She died.") This was a special divine dispensation-it also involved restoring Beren's life, for a time. It is hinted that there were other mortal lines with an 'elvish strain', notably Imrahil of Dol Amroth, that are nevertheless considered human.
He’s not half elf. His father is. And half VANYAR at that. And father is the greatest to ever live. At a time when most men were seen as equals to the elves by the elves themselves.
@@majkusYes! Let’s dive into Elrond & his daughter Arwen (& Aragorn by extension) therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents; (Eärendil & Elwing), both “half elven” made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand. After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. ✨✨✨✨✨ He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤ Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there! When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. ✨✨✨✨✨ Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh • By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). ❤️❤️❤️❤️ But if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(one of the surviving eldest Elf in the world.). ❤️❤️❤️❤️ But even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm ! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.) Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. 💕💕💕💕 The fountain of Galadriel's Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it. 💕💕💕💕 The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤ Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother) The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
@@fosterbennington6405Feanor had his flows though.. Let's not forget that fingolfin was pretty op too. To hurt Morgoth in a single combat , and only get defeated by Morgoth's higher Ainur endurance. You don't see that kind of elf everyday 😅
Bernard Hill who plays King Theoden, passed away earlier this year. I never met the man, but watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy on a yearly basis, made us feel like those characters, and actors, were part of our family. So to have this wonderful actor pass on, is really emotional. It's also bringing to light the reality of death. The living are now fading into legend, Christopher Lee, Ian Holm, the director of photography, Andrew Leslie, and now Bernard Hill.
Guys amazing detail.. Look at 50:32 ..You didnt show us that scene but you saw it .. While Haldir is greeting Aragorn, Elvish soldiers didnt respond anything..But..While Legolas and Haldir greet each other, at that exact moment Elvish soldiers return to them and do respectful military standing salute. Because Legolas is the son and heir of King Thranduil. He is the prince of the Elven kingdom of Mirkwood. And the elves have great respect for the dynasty
The Noldor looked down on the other Elves but Haldir might have been Nandor or Silvan and most of his archers would have been Silvan like the subjects of Legolas father.
@tileuxthere were few Noldor in Lothlórien because Galadriel and Celeborn were leading mostly Sindar Elves and in Lothlórien there were Sindar and Silvan elves when they become the rulers. Also, not all Noldor thought less of Sindar. In fact they were few and mostly from Fëanor's people
It still blows my mind that even the "Making of" of these movies is almost as enjoyable as the movies themselves. If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend it.
So, the Battle of Helm's Deep took 3 months to film, used 2,000 extras, they did it at night while it was raining plus they had to use some artificial rain on shots. The filming logistics had to be absolutely insane. 2-3 hours to apply the makeup for a single actor if being close to the camera shot. I hope y'all watch the making of these movies because it's insane. As an example, to make the chain mail for the LOTR movies, two guys spent over two years linking rings into chain mail. Altogether, they used 12.5 million rings and each chainmail contained 80,000 rings.
The extended edition contains, among many other scenes, a beautiful flashback scene with Faramir, Boromir and their father nobody who loves Boromir should NEVER miss! I hope you could watch also the extended editions of the three movies, sooner or later; they are in some way a complete different movie.
Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
The extended edition adds so much more to Boromir's character! You get such a better sense of the type of person that he was, and why his people loved him, and it adds to his tragic death in the first movie. Definitely part of the reason why I always recommend the extended editions to people who haven't seen it yet.
Gimli is on the back of the horse because dwarves and horses tend not to mix. He doesn’t know how to control one. Dwarves culture does not need a lot of horses underground. They use ponies sometimes for wagons and such, but they have little use for horses. They are extremely hardy, have unparalleled endurance, and would much rather get to and fro using their own two legs. That’s how Gimli was able to keep up with Legolas and Aragorn on the run. Love to see the younger generations fall in love with this story. ❤🇨🇦👍🏼
Fun fact: this line is changed from the actual line in the books, maybe as a misinterpretation. I'm pretty sure the actual line says something along the lines of how Gandalf smote his enemy upon the RUIN of the MOUNTAINSIDE. Think about that for a second. He's not saying he ruined his enemy. He's saying the smiting RUINED THE MOUNTAINSIDE. The balrog's death and fight with gandalf was just THAT DESTRUCTIVE. It ruined a MOUNTAIN.
@@DM-nw5lu I mean a few of them already have seen it and still got choked up during the emotional parts. Just because they aren't hysterically crying doesn't mean they aren't feeling.
@@BanditoBurritoyeah, but if they all watched in silence without emoting or saying anything like the two dudes in the far left and right of the couch I could just go watch the movies by myself again because it would not anything of entertaining since the point of these "first time reactions" are the... Reactions
Sad that they won't get to see Faramir's flashback, or the funny scene of Eowyn's bad cooking and Aragorn's age reveal. Good thing that they might be watching the third in its extended version at least
@@TheMan21892 It looks like they are watching on Netflix, so maybe it's not available there, they just went with the quickest solution at the time I guess.
if youre firsttime watching lotr, im not sure if every part, as extended cut, is a good idea i love fellowship for example, but im not sure, back then, if i wouldve enjoyed it as much...with all the hobbit lore that comes with extended. its just so long that some people would get bored a bit, i think.
@@cptnhero6116 I have never seen *anyone* complain about the extended editions being too long. Personally, when I watched the extended editions for the first time, I thought to myself, “Why the hell did they cut these scenes? They’re so good!” And I was left with a deeper appreciation for the films.
I read that on one of the "mountaintop cities" they removed the native vegetation and kept it alive in greenhouses. When filming was done, they removed the set and put the native vegetation back where it had been. Very cool.
Gandalf in the first movie: "Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life... Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For not even the wise can see all ends.” The crew: "Aww Gandalf is so wise!" The crew upon seeing Gollum: Slit his throat. Don't pity him, just kill him, Me: Did you learn nothing? One of the main themes of Tolkien's philosophy is mercy.
Galadriel also backs him up on that last point (in reference to the mirror). “Even the wisest cannot tell.” That realization of there always being more at play than can truly be reckoned by any (possibly including even Eru in some circumstances) is great wisdom in itself.
I think this is just a side effect of growing up on modern media rather than classical tales of heroism. The modern nihilistic view of the world that is so prevalent in modern media has really shaped how a lot of people think
@@MasterIceyy I mean to be fair being realistic is better than idealistic. Not killing Grima is a real mistake and shows why mercy is folly sometimes. Gollum is a good showing of that but that came down to sheer luck as well. I prefer Tywin from GoT who uses the red wedding rather than killing thousands on the field.
Everybody needs a Sam in their life. He's a GOAT not because he's your typical hero, but just by staying beside his friend through & thin makes him so true.
Neat bit of technical trivia - the motion capture technology developed for this trilogy was a huge leap forward for the whole VFX industry, but they still couldn't get Gollum's mouth animations to look right when trying to use the mo-cap data from Andy Serkis' mouth movements. So instead, they VFX crew animated every single frame of Gollum's mouth BY HAND to ensure it looked as realistic as possible. That's one of the reasons for why the overall VFX for the character of Gollum still looks so dang good despite being two and a half decades old.
For some reason, Jackson chose not to portray what Tolkien called 'perhaps the most tragic moment' in the story (and Sam's moment of failure): “And so Gollum found them hours later, when he returned, crawling and creeping down the path out of the gloom ahead. Sam sat propped against the stone, his head dropping sideways and his breathing heavy. In his lap lay Frodo’s head, drowned deep in sleep; upon his white forehead lay one of Sam’s brown hands, and the other lay softly upon his master’s breast. Peace was in both their faces. Gollum looked at them. A strange expression passed over his lean hungry face. The gleam faded from his eyes, and they went dim and grey, old and tired. A spasm of pain seemed to twist him, and he turned away, peering back up towards the pass, shaking his head, as if engaged in some interior debate. Then he came back, and slowly putting out a trembling hand, very cautiously he touched Frodo’s knee-but almost the touch was a caress. For a fleeting moment, could one of the sleepers have seen him, they would have thought that they beheld an old weary hobbit, shrunken by the years that had carried him far beyond his time, beyond friends and kin, and the fields and streams of youth, an old starved pitiable thing. But at that touch Frodo stirred and cried out softly in his sleep, and immediately Sam was wide awake. The first thing he saw was Gollum - ‘pawing at master,’ as he thought. ‘Hey you!’ he said roughly. ‘What are you up to?’ ‘Nothing, nothing,’ said Gollum softly. ‘Nice Master!’ ‘I daresay,’ said Sam. ‘But where have you been to - sneaking off and sneaking back, you old villain? ‘ Gollum withdrew himself, and a green glint flickered under his heavy lids.”
Just FYI, the movie actually does Faramir dirty. In the books, he is not tempted by the ring at all. He's on the same level of honor as Aragorn in that regard. He's lived in the shadow of his brother, which you will see in the next movie, and so he already knows the deceit of power. He aids Frodo once he knows who he is and his task. Taking him and the ring to Gondor was never an option in his mind. While I love the movies, this was my chief complaint when they came out. I, and many others, were offended at this change, as it is slanderous to Faramir's character.
I agree, but I see why they did it. Everyone so far has been tempted by the ring and when it's this condensed it would be very jarring if someone suddenly wasn't even tempted. It's sort of required for narrative consistency, they do that to every character who gets a reason to be tempted.
I agree. Peter Jackson probably wanted to highlight Aragorn as honorable, virtuous and strong, and that Faramir being tempted by the Ring was to reinforce the fact that all men are easily corrupted by it. I just don't think that portraying Faramir correctly would've taken away from Aragorn too much.
They also changed Aragon as well, I like movie Aragon more than book. In the book he had little conflict with his heritage and wanted the throne. Movie Aragon has a better character arc to accept who he is and his destiny. It made his journey more rewarding to me.
This is the same write-by-the-manual reasoning that was applied to Aragorn. Characters are required to have 'character arcs' and so Aragorn must begin as the Reluctant King and claim his kingship (and sword) much later in the story. Similarly, Faramir has to start by taking Frodo to his father, and only reach the point of rejecting the Ring later, after an added (and, from a plot standpoint, pointless) excursion to Osgiliath ("By rights, we shouldn't even be here" may be an acknowledgment that this was a Jackson invention). I suppose I can understand why Jackson felt there had to be a story beat here, but book-Faramir has a sort of signature line, spoken twice, "I would not take this thing, if it lay by the highway." Jackson could have redeemed his treatment of Faramir a bit by giving him this book line at the end. Oddly (weak spoilers), Jackson later slanders Denethor, who is already one of the book's more complex characters, one whose motivations are subtle, by reducing him to a one-note nuisance.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't really tempted. In the scenes with Faramir looking at the ring, he just says that he wants to take it to Gondor, to his father, to finally get some of his love and show his worth, I don't see that he just wants the ring for himself
Y'all at the part where Aragorn kicked the helmet, "If you know, you know." 😂 The girls reactions to the Gandalf The White reveal were too good, reactions like that are what make these fun to watch. Addie being so emotional after Aragorn "died", I was like just wait, glad she's even more attached to him in this movie though. Oh and it's ok Carter, the parts where you've been in shambles, it's been the same for me.
Tolkien read the LotR to his friends in their meetings as the story developed. This group was a selection of fellows who were experts in poetry, ancient mythology and theology. It is told that at times even C. S. Lewis moved to tears while listening the story.
@@johndimick1767The group was known as the Inklings, and met in a pub they knew as “The Bird and Baby” - it’s actually called The Eagle and Child - located in St Giles, Oxford. Googling “The Inklings” gives you plenty of material; also the Tolkien movie touches on his friendship with some of the group’s members.
Nice touch to the reaction that Sam's end speech silenced everyone, and when people dont say nothing says much about how good they are reacting! And now... comes the Return of the King
This channel has brought me a lot of joy, just like several other reaction channels. I believe that having people who have never seen The Lord of the Rings and us seeing their authentic reactions firsthand makes everything so much better. Why? Seeing these reactions gives me a small piece of what it was like for me to watch it for the first time and takes me back to that nostalgic sentiment! Thank you! Keep doing what you do and always bring people who have never seen classic works like this!
During the filming of the battle of helms deep, many of the New Zealander actors and stuntmen who played the Urak kai, before one of the takes, lined up in front of the guys playing the defenders, and performed a traditional Māori Haka, a challenge given before battle, just like the All blacks rugby team does before games. So far no one has found the footage of this sadly, but it would be awesome to see 😊
Viggo was also given a haka after his last day of shooting. He then responded with giving a headbutt to everyone there... ruclips.net/video/o_kqn5MQiDY/видео.html
J R R Tolkien (author of LOTR) was a Veteran of WW 1 and saw many friends die in the war. It stayed with him all his life...all the horrors he witnessed...the area of the death marshes was a "recall of the horrors of the battlefields" he saw during the war. he never forgot it.
@@BillieArd The part about the dead marshes includes Legolas’ Father; Thranduil, & grandfather Oropher, were to join the Last Alliance in from a different angle to achieve a certain war tactic but Oropher and others got waylayed by orcs & many corrupted men which lead to eventually Oropher dying there, this loss effected Legolas’s father so very deeply forevermore. The bond between he and his son is the same bond Thranduil has with Legolas. And the braid he wears is to honour his grandfather. I believe after his death braids became less common. A sort of respect thing I believe. ❤️❤️❤️ Both his father and Grandfather lived in Doriath(Elu Thingol’s domain[Elwë], which was heartbea of middle earth; Aside from Gondolin which held this mantle until it’s secret location was given up by a tortured elf who was the son of a very important mother who was the sister of the high king Turgon). All on a landmass called Beleriand that sunk under the sea after a set of disastrous events that lead to many greater outcomes much later on in the legendarium. ✨✨✨ This here is a whole set of stories of which also includes a quite a bit of Galadriel too but moreso other characters during this era. Of Beren And Lùthien comes to mind and Children Of Hurin!! You’ll fall in love even more after the third movie. Then you can enter into the lore videos like Moviejoob and OmarioRPG have done reaction videos too. Amazing stuff. One thing to add though is this scene resembles a lot from the other battle Tolkien was involved in called The Battle Of Somme. Look into it and tell me your thoughts. I’ll add something here though: that clan of elves really didn’t like being under the command of anyone else so they went ahead without the order and let’s just say it didn’t end well. That and they weren’t fond of the Ñoldor… huge history there as to why that is. That and the Sindar subgroup of these clans were a tiny bit more isolationist. But there are many amazing Sindar in the legendarium too Elrond and his two sons and daughter are connected to all of the main clans of men and elves through the union of his half elf father and full elf(quarter goddess) mother. Who essentially played a huge role in saving the world from the original dark lord Morgoth. Gained the Favour Of Valinor. Which subsequently lead to Numenor being a gift from the sea to the men who helped. Becoming blessed. Their land existing within the light of Valinor as it was situated closely to The Undying Lands. (The same ancestry Aragorn has that Èowyn spoke of while they were travelling to Helm’s Deep! (Elrond’s Twin Brother became the first king of Númenor. His name becoming Tar-Minyatur, and those faithful to Eru, the elves and the natural world all of this line carried Tar before their name! Ar for Aragorn is the word meaning Noble in his tongue called Adúnaic. That too is a fleshed out language Tolkien created too. Elvish languages also were placed into the official list of world languages too!
"A wizard should know better!" Carries the same sort of emotional pain as when Gandalf heard Frodo saying he will take the ring. You can hear a unique sort of agony in his cries.
Totally. And considering immortality vs mortality is a major theme of the books, it helps invoke that theme even if most of the material in the books had to be left out.
Love the girl in the headbands reaction when gandalf returned. You can just see the great writing of Tolkien and the excellent excellent acting of sir Ian McKellen to make you feel so much for that character to bring the audience to tears. When i saw this in the theater people cheered at this moment.
11:53 in this take of this scene, Viggo kicked an actual steel helmet instead of one of the prop helmets he was meant to kick, which he had been kicking repeatedly trying to get it to fly past the camera in the right way. He got it to go the right way in this take, but the helmet was steel, and he broke his toe doing so. Instead of stopping the take, he cried out in pain and continued acting.
The sword Gandalf wielded caused the Balrog’s primordial sword to burst into a rain of molten lava in an almost majestic way. It too belong to high elven king Turgon of the great hidden realm of Gondolin, surrounded by tallest mountains. Named Glamdring; meaning “Foe Hammer”. Gandalf broke the balrog’s unholy weapon. Epic right? His original staff broke when he let some of his true powers show to grant a miracle from his own life force. This is the same thing for how the elves do “magic” Galadriel herself tells Frodo and Sam that things elves do may seem like magic but they don’t really use such a word since they are one with the world, symbiotic with it if the world perished so would they. Just so you know; the balrog and Gandalf fought for 10 days straight. Then eldrich terrors(nameless things) assailed them both and they begrudgingly fought them off together and Gandalf resumed his chase of the balrog up the endless stairs of Dúrin’s Tower where they fought up at the top of ZirakZigil Gandalf was given the ring of fire (Narya) by one of the oldest remaining elves from the first clans to wake beneath the stars before the sun and moon ever existed; at the Cuiviènen river named Círdan. Its best attribute was it raises the spirits of those who wear it. Bolstering internal strength and so forth. He knew it would aid Gandalf in his quest from the Valar and Eru Îlluvatar (the one AllFather) themselves to bolster the spirits of the free peoples of middle earth and to sow seeds of hope within the hearts of Men, Elves and Dwarves alike.
You beauties, I literally watched the last video yesterday and was sad that the next one wasn't out yet, I am so glad I checked today, I love seeing people fall in love with the world of The Lord of the Rings, gonna enjoy every moment, hope the conversion of these haters is going well! 🤣
If I recall Sean Astin did choke while eating a piece of lembas. The props people basically made a dry shortbread cookie which really wasn’t easy to eat without water.
I’m glad to see a younger generation appreciate a story like this. People these days seem more interested in flashy effects, sexuality, etc., but if you notice about Jackson’s trilogy, there’s no sexuality, not a single swear word, but it is a story that features the best of humanity who are facing insurmountable odds, despair, fear, etc., yet put aside their differences to fight alongside one another to fight a common evil. LOTR is exactly how to feature heroes, decency, courtesy, and show how goodness truly is the greatest tool to bring others together and to defeat the enemies of that goodness. “What can man do against such reckless hate?” “Ride out. Ride out and meet them.” You will never find a better story than this. (Also, the book was better, and I still praise these movies as great)
That's why these are fictional movies. In real world villains are like Candice, Andrew Tate, Sneako, have to be defeated by other ways.. not by swords .. These villains attacking minds of people..
What are you on about? These are movies they all would of grown up with… These movies are also the most effects heavy movies for the time they came out.
@@danielhejlund3314 💔💔Ofcourse you find this laughable.. That's proof my point. The fact that you don't see them as villains who destroying minds of people by horrible teachings, misinformation about so many things, exactly the reason I'm saying. You are part of Shauron's army in real world.. And he is not using swords, and orgs this time, this far more sinister and horrifying.. He don't need ring to corrupt minds.
Dude, the look of their faces when Gandalf revealed himself to be alive. Almost as epic as that shot with Gandalf pointing his sword at the balrog while it's being imbued with lightning! Timeless, epic image right there.
Having read the book several times before the movies came out, it was fascinating to see the Theatrical Cut in theaters in real time unfold with the craftsmanship to get the world to feel like Middle-Earth, what was included, what was left out, what was so different that felt out of place, but overall a great solid experience in a theater.... but one year cliffhangers were tough to accept! (The Theatrical Cuts are perfectly fine for first time watchers, imho)
Imagine what it was like when the books first came out! The Two Towers film ends a little farther along the stories, and the cliffhanger in the Tower of Cirith Ungol (no spoilers) was awful.
Glorfindel was a lord of Gondolin, who after the city fell was helping civilians flee. A Balrog was set on a mountain pass to ambush & genocide the citizens in what was known as Battle Of Sudden Flame. Glorfindel battles the Balrog solo, which culminates in both falling off the mountain into a ravine to their mutual destruction. Ecthelion was also a lord of Gondolin, and the warden of the city’s gate. He had been injured fighting through the city during its fall. The remaining forces were in the centre square, with the city’s Fountain (of which Ecthelion was lord of the people of the fountain). Gothmog, captain of the Balrogs, breaks through with the attack. He wounds Ecthelion, who - due to his injuries - cannot hold neither sword nor shield. So he leaps at Gothmog, rams his spiked(bladed helmet) helmet into the Balrog, and causes both of them to tumble into the Fountain. They are both too heavy to swim, and both injured, so they both drown (or have their inner fire extinguished). The steam from the fountain’s ruin adds to the chaos, assisting in some fleeing the city with Tuor, the princess Idril, and Glorfindel. (Remember the prologue war in the fellowship of the ring? See those curved Blade-Esque things ontop of the elvish men’s helmets? That’s due to the ancient battle of Echthelion and the Balrog at Gondolin making its way into augmented design for their armour.) So it’s also a theme that happens in the books where there usually is always something to do with falling into water. Except Fëanor who slayed several balrogs at once & Gothmog slayed him after one bound him suddenly when he was supposed to have a “one on one” duel with Gothmog but one wasn’t wanting to play fair. But he was fatally wounded and so his sons and host moved him away to a safe place where his body burned up from the fires of his own spirit. This was at The Battle Under Stars (Dagor Nuin Giliath).
Galadriel is the one who pleaded the WindLord Gwaihir, one of the eagle formed Maiar), to go to the top of Durin’s Tower at Zirakzigil. He was recuperated by her own hand and skills. Bringing back a god of sorts is quite a feat which fits her prowess in several fields as she was known to have learned from all of the Valar, all that there was left to teach by each of them. The staff was given to him by Galadriel in Lothlórien and enhanced his powers upon his return. His old brown staff was a gift from Radagast (another wizard of the Istari Order after he escaped from Saruman’s current abode in Orthanc, hand carved from an old branch. The white staff was a gift from Galadriel, made by elven smiths from Mallorn wood. (Mallanornë by the elves. Interestingly looks similar to the elvish word for Friend, Mellon. But that’s just me being inquisitive.) That new staff before he sacrificed it to do a spell of sorts against the Balrog in Khazad-Dûm. That one was called Opening Flower. (His portrayal in The Hobbit movies are a little bit funny but it slightly sort of suits the aspect of that book which was more whimsical so I guess they wanted to make him act much different. Granted Radagast sort of strayed from the path but his main mission was to guard and protect nature itself on behalf of Yavannah. The Valar that chose him as her champion to head into middle earth with the other 4 istari. The white staff was most likely named something along the lines of Marta Nieninquë (Fated WhiteTearSnowflower), or Ninquelotë which is “White/snow Flower”. Or Ninquë Merillë “White Rose”. (Derivatives of Merillë is also Feast and Festive, think of his fireworks for example. Single rose is Meril or like single flower is Elloth. Another Elvish flower term is “ninglor” noun for golden water-flower, gladden. But since Mithrandir is his name by the elves for grey wanderer I wanted to add Mithril to the name of his new staff as it contains similarity to his elvish name so “Mithrillottë” meaning “Flower Of TrueSilver” Or maybe due to the snowy mountain he died upon, the new staff name could be “Olórin olea Ollosë” meaning “The Dream/Vision that bloomed and flourishes upon the Fallen Snow” by how it’s implied. Olórin is Gandalf’s real angelic name so it is basically describing how the dream of hope that rekindled itself in the harshest of conditions. Like a resilient type of flower, Ollosë is the fallen snow. Olea is the action of plants specifically growing & living. Another elvish flower name I love is for Daisy “Eirien”. Lothlórien itself means “DreamFlower”. Galadriel’s realm. ❤️ - (Elvish had grown ALOT over the ages. Even some forms of elvish are even more archaic even for other elves who at times may experience a little bit of difficulty understanding or simply noting one’s accent and speed of which one talks internally.
For me, the biggest difference between the two movies is that the first shows the natural order of the world, as it should be in Tolkien's mind, and the second shows the corruption of the manufacturing world of Isengard. There is also so much more character building, through symbolism, Aragorn: coming into his legacy. Sam: showing the loyalty and love he has for Frodo. Frodo: Seeing the corruption of the ring. Legolas and Gimily: two races that have been in war for years coming together. Theoden: being saved from darkness and seeing the shame he has in himself (hint this is big). Gandalf: giving a glimps into the greater world or the World even beyond Middle Earth. Frodo's relationship with Gollum: relates back to Bilbo and Gollum. Overall, this movie builds a lot of tension between the first and the third movies. The ladies have mentioned wanting to read the books which will help them appreciate the more subtle references that are in the movies. The movies do well for the time they had and they were able to make reference to so much in the books that casual watchers would not notice. These movies are truly incredible and I am really looking forward to seeing the reaction the to 3rd.
So funfact, the flag flying off in that scene wasnt in the script. Was just super windy that day and they were like "write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN!!"
11:53 Fun fact: Aragorn's actor Viggo Mortensen was asked to retry this kick scene over and over for so many times, that eventually he grew tired of it and kicked the helmet so strong he hurt his foot and cracked his toe, yet he kept in character and made this painful scream, which Peter Jackson chose as the winning take for the scene and this is the one we see here.
❤️ Cosmically Epic Lembas history - written by elven LoreMaster named Pengolodh. Lembas was made first by the Vala named Yavanna from special corn that grew in Aman, and Oromë gave it to the Elves for the purpose of the Great Journey. For this reason, it was an Elven custom that only women should make lembas; they were called Yavannildi who knew the secret of its recipe from Oromë. Also, the custom mandated that only an Elven Queen should keep and distribute the lembas; for this reason she was called also massánië or besain. - Only on rare occasions was it given to non-Elves, because it was believed that mortals who ate it would become weary of their mortality and would desire to live among the Elves. The corn was an enduring plant that needed but a little sunlight to ripen and could be sown at any season and then sprouted and grew swiftly. Yet it was harmed by north winds, while Morgoth dwelt there. The Eldar grew it in guarded lands and sunlit glades. The ears were harvested without scythe or sickle but each one was gathered by hand, and the white stalks were drawn from the earth and used to weave baskets in which the grain was stored. Melian, as the queen of Doriath, was one who held the recipe from Yavanna. By giving lembas to Beleg for Túrin, Melian showed him great favour because it had never before been given to Men and seldom was again. Later it was passed to Galadriel and other Elves. When ships had been sent forth, at the behest of Turgon, towards the West, its mariners carried a sealed wallet with waybread for their voyage. Voronwë, after surviving the wreck, shared it with Tuor throughout their journey to Gondolin. Dúnedain, inspired by the elves, made a similar kind of waybread (although it was not true lembas), that they carried on long journeys. So each of Isildur's soldiers on their way north from the War of the Last Alliance "carried in a sealed wallet on his belt a small phial of cordial and wafers of a waybread that would sustain life in him for many days". The Galadhrim had a large store of lembas in Lothlórien. Galadriel gave some of it to the Fellowship of the Ring upon their departure. Frodo Baggins and Samwise Gamgee subsisted on it through the majority of their journey from there into Mordor. The tradition of farming the Western Corn and the making of waybread was lost for ever in Middle-earth after the departure of Galadriel and the death of Arwen. One of the only places left where this untouched holy wheat can be grown is the groves within Lothlórien.
Till this date, LOTR trilogy is undefeated.
100% agreed❤
Indeed
And it will never be surpassed
@@Marco_Fornazari ...until all the world is changed and the long years of western decadence are utterly spent.
to be fair ... Star Wars, Back to the Future and Pirats of the Caribbean the Movies were a one Movie deal, the Storys for Part 2 and 3 came later. With LorR the full Story was already there from the Start.
Aragorn was raised among elves, he knows they don't hug, yet he still continues to hug them, and I love that about him
And, the dude seemed taken aback until he fully accepted a sincere bro hug. 🫂
There is not a single part of the movie that wasn't well made
But you see Arwen hug her father so it must be something they do.
@@scarletina5137 You can't compare a daughter hugging her father to a bro hug between dudes that aren't related. 🫂
@@IamnotJohnFord Oh im not but the OP said Aragorn knows that elves don't hug.
The effort spent in this episode not to rip a big fat "DID YOU KNOW..." was commendable lads, well done.
We all know which scene that is. The one fact everyone knows about LOTR and Viggo.
Which one... ? For the people in the back of course.
@@matijasostojic4288In the scene when Viggo kicks the helmet, he actually broke two of his toes so his scream was real. One of those fun facts long time LOTR fans have to bite back from sharing every time we show the movie to someone new 😂
@@chibimarie5420I love the fact we all withhold a combined phrase of "Did you know..." 🤣🤣🤣
@@BlueDebut The words "fun fact here..." popped in my head
“I don’t think we’re gonna get a significant death in this movie”
Haldír in shambles
* _Somber fallen Elf music plays_ *
Its a good addition to the Helm's Deep part but does not happen in the books
Well they were correct since they are sadly watching the theatrical cuts and as such are missing a lot of context. Haldir is insignificant without the extended editions.
But like another xomment said, the "real" Haldir in the books is never said to have died during the war, since the elves never went to HD, because Lorien, Mirkwood, Beorn's people, Erebor and Dale where all busy fighting Mordor and Dol Guldur invading the lands seen in The Hobbit, because the War of The Ring was not limited to south and south-east Middle-Earth.
No one ever cries over Haldir death scene, and there is a good reason why.
The elves and dwarves were both fighting orcs on different fronts but they have no way to convey that in the movie without shoehorning it in their so the elves showing up to help is a nice cinematic way of representing that.
"If you know,you know"😂😂😂
That poor toe.
@Golladan Yeah😂 they were so many on set injuries during the filming, but they kept going "Show Must Go On" they say, and this is exactly how great things are made. Just to see a pure level of dedication from everyone participating in this movie...magic😄
Love how 2 of them glance at the camera like 👀😏
Lol but "did you know?"
IMA GONNA LET YOU FINISH... but on a side-note, did you know...?
😂😂😂
It's important to note that Gandalf isn't human. He's essentially and angel/minor deity, sent in a human body to help guide and advise the people of Middle Earth
The body isn't mortal. He's been there for thousands of years.
@@30noirYes. He’s in the body of a mortal, but it isn’t a mortal body.
@@30noirhis body is mortal and his (Olorin’s) power is significantly reduced in large part due to that. It’s his spirit that is immortal
Ishtari
Sort of a demi-god?
“What’s the point of living forever if you’re depressed,”
Funny enough that’s one of the few ways an elf can die naturally, from extreme grief
He totally understood the Gift of Men in that moment, though. Super cool to see! It’s weird to think of death as a gift but for immortal elves, forever bound to the fate of this world, watching it wind and wear down, and forever remembering the glory of past ages and carrying the pain of thousands of years of loss, death can be seen as a gift.
Idk, I’m rambling but I felt like he totally summarized the gift in that one sentence.
Rest in paradise to the actor the actor who played King Theoden, Bernard Hill. Mad respect. 🙏
Bernard Hill.
He will not be ashamed in the mighty company of his fathers.
Hail the victorious dead!!
@@alfonsobiggers2452 HAAAAAAAAIIIILLLLLL!!!😭😭😭
@@alfonsobiggers2452 HAIL!
Viggo Mortensen grew up on a ranch in Argentina. He knows horses. In order to really bond with the horse in the movie, he actually slept in the stable.
Just a couple of stallions having a sleepover.
And he bought three of the horses from the production after the last movie. He gifted one of them to Arwen's stunt double as she had bonded with it, but couldn't afford it.
“You stink of horse…”
@@chaidie7056What a good dude, very cool thing of him to do
When Uraeus, the horse that played Brego died at 28, Viggo Mortensen - who bought his after filming - posted: “Aged 28, but a timeless presence in the minds of those who had the honour of knowing this proud, handsome, and supremely intelligent being, mighty Uraeus has finally come to rest on the physical plane. Thank you, Jane and Ray, for helping him do so with dignity. Dearest friend and teacher, I hold you and keep you.”
Something I learned recently that blew me away. Many of the riders of Rohan were women with exceptionaly well done makeup and fake facial hair. It was easier to find female riders because horseback riding is a predominantly female sport.
Interesting. Someone I've also noticed is that I know way more women who love horses than men. Don't know why that is.
@@hebercluff1665 Any sport related to horseback riding is going to prefer people who are lighter weight. Which is why Jockeys are incredibly short men.
@@YourBlackLocal that makes sense, but this time, I wasn't talking about sports. I was just talking about an overall interest in horses.
@@hebercluff1665 Right, but horses are expensive, and are rarely bought outside of an expectation that they'll play a role in some sort of sport, or breeding for some sort of sport.
Hence the correlation.
Not exactly. Because the owners of most horses which were used for shoot were those ladies
The actor who played Aragorn had the idea for Brego, the horse he set free, to kneel down to save Aragorn. He spent months training the horse to gently lie down beside him so that scene could be in the movie.
@@martiwalsh2069 He also fell in love with brego and ended up buying him and taking him back home with him after they finished filming
There was just so much preparation for months and years before filming that production companies don't allow for anymore because they figure they can release 3 or 4 movies in the time it takes to make one of these and they will make more money combined first weekend so it doesn't matter. It took 8 years total for the three films to be produced. They had armorers forging real armor, people planting the crops in the shire months ahead of time, etc. Now they just add that stuff in with CGI and call it a day and it looks terrible.
@@Wi11iamNZviggo is the man. Comfortable headbutting stunt guys, or writing poetry. A true modern man
Sam's quote about great stories is one of my favorites. It's so meta and meaningful. The stories we fall in love with as kids really do shape us, LOTR, Hobbit, Harry Potter, fairytales, Starwars, classics, horror... And not all, but a lot of those stories carry the lessons of "good" and "strength." The fact that one of the characters who does this for so many admits to also being influenced in this way is really touching, and it feels like Tolkien is speaking in that moment.
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There are several scenes that give me same vibe.
This Sam quote, Gendalf's "Can you give the life?", Gendalf words about "this is not the end" and golden shores, Sam and Frodo "Do you remember..." at the end of their journey.
This is my second favorite quote, my favorite is from the last movie from gandalf. I won't spoil for others but iykyk
PO-TA-TOES!
@@user-je3sk8cj6g Lol, a banger (and mash)
Tears...every time
"Wait there's only 3?" .... someone is really liking these movies 😁
Quality > Quantity
hay 3 mas "el hobbit" y tambien los anillos de poder la serie
Though "watching the return of the king extended" has been a crucial mistake, as much of Boromir's backstory they asked for in the first film was included in the two towers... 😕
@@rigosepulveda8924the hobbit trilogy is mid and rings of power is bad. They will all be happier if they stick to the main series
@@thesoftersideofsears si, pero pregunto si habían más, pero no esta demás que las vea, de igual manera se puede entretener
Edoras was in fact a real place. The film crew constructed the town upon that hill amongst the mountains in the South Island of NZ. Nothing remained after the filming had concluded as the crew dismantled the town and made sure they left the area as they found it. This was done in order to preserve the environment and its natural beauty.
Not the whole town. The big hall and some houses and part of the wall. All other buildings where digitally added.
Not to mention that the Golden Hall was actually used as an administration office because it was the only solidly built place free from the wind in the area for the second unit.
Just the exteriors were made. All the interiors were shot on sound stages.
They went so far to not harm the horses, the nature, etc that the tree that the orcs take down in Isengard when they start building the army is fake.
Unlike rings of power, where one of the horses died. Good thing it’s just fanfic written by modern writers, that means we miss nothing by not watching it :)
They removed moss from the rocks, then re-placed it afterwards, since it is a protected area.
Damn, the reaction of you girls in the gandlaf the White reveal is priceless, you felt that 100% as it was intended, really glad to see the movie and it's amazing characters inspire such strong emotions!!
When new people who watch these or who couldnt get into it when they were younger start crying at Gandalf's return, you know they're invested into the movie.
I’ve never shed so many tears…
Girls reaction to Gandalf's return was one of the sweetest things I've seen amongst the reactions to LOTR. A lot of people are holding back from being upset when he "dies" and start to intellectualize instead of just reacting to the story and when he comes back they would say that they knew he wasn't dead all a long. Great for them, i guess, but not fun if you watch a reaction and want to see some genuine emotions.
One could say it was JUICY?!?!?!?
He is basically Jesus
I know when I read the books the first time as a kid, when Gandalf revealed himself to Aragorn Legolas and Gimli my mind was blown, because the books aren’t exactly clear until this point what Gandalf actually is, you simply know him as a powerful and mysterious wizard figure. But then he says he was known as Olorin in the west in his youth and you realize he is powerful being far beyond elves men or dwarves.
So true what you say. I don't know if I took it like that when I first watched it when it came out.
But watching it as you get older and lose parents and have children it hits so differently now.
Tears flow freely at those moments Gandalf's death and Boromeirs death in the fellowship.
Gandalf's touching scene with frodo sitting on the rocks in moria gets tears from me every time.
Love your family and your people while they are here, for eventually we will all pass to the next life.
haha the helm kick with the broken foot and your faces of knowing were sooo funny !
Toes 😅
Every time I see the theatrical release for two towers, I just remember the deleted scene for Faramir and Boromir.
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Not watching the extended is almost criminal
The theatricals are fine for first-time viewers, some of the extended scenes really should've been left on the cutting board. The scene with Faramir and Boromir should've been left, and the seen in RotK with Saruman should've been left in, but a lot of others are just fluff that nerds will like and normal people will just wonder why it's there.
@@emPtysp4ce Why do you think that? It makes zero sense. Why introduce someone new to these glorious films and then not show them the best version of the films?
@@emPtysp4ce If you think most scenes for the extended edition is just for nerds you're an idiot. I'm sorry but you just are, most of them give life to the world and give you a better understanding of the Characters.
hearing girl with the cool headband say something like "the world tolkien created is so cool" just gave me the biggest smile ever. i cant help but picture tolkien just smiling hearing that too. thanks for the content team!
The thing about Elrond is that he IS a half-elf. Half-elves in this universe can basically choose to become fully elf and retain their immortality or choose their human half and become mortal. Elrond chose his elven heritage while his brother became human and died a long time ago, and now Elrond's children have the same choice. He knows that if Arwen chooses a mortal life then she will die in the blink of an eye and he will never see her again.
Well, technically, only the line of Beren and Lúthien receive this privilege, since Lúthien gave up her immortality for Beren (Aragorn in the first movie: "She died.") This was a special divine dispensation-it also involved restoring Beren's life, for a time. It is hinted that there were other mortal lines with an 'elvish strain', notably Imrahil of Dol Amroth, that are nevertheless considered human.
He’s not half elf. His father is. And half VANYAR at that. And father is the greatest to ever live. At a time when most men were seen as equals to the elves by the elves themselves.
@@majkusYes! Let’s dive into Elrond & his daughter Arwen (& Aragorn by extension) therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents; (Eärendil & Elwing), both “half elven” made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age.
Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand.
After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor.
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He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤
Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there!
When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West.
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Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh
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By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them).
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But if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(one of the surviving eldest Elf in the world.).
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But even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father.
And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm !
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Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.)
Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember,
they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian.
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Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it.
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The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤
Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother)
The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
@@Makkaru112Greatest Elf to ever live is Fëanor though
@@fosterbennington6405Feanor had his flows though.. Let's not forget that fingolfin was pretty op too. To hurt Morgoth in a single combat , and only get defeated by Morgoth's higher Ainur endurance. You don't see that kind of elf everyday 😅
It's never too late to convert, so happy for you guys
Bernard Hill who plays King Theoden, passed away earlier this year. I never met the man, but watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy on a yearly basis, made us feel like those characters, and actors, were part of our family. So to have this wonderful actor pass on, is really emotional. It's also bringing to light the reality of death. The living are now fading into legend, Christopher Lee, Ian Holm, the director of photography, Andrew Leslie, and now Bernard Hill.
the scene with sam and frodo gets me every timeeeee and him saying “it’s me, it’s your sam… don’t you know your sam?”
TEARS EVERY TIMEEEE 😭🫶🏽🥲
had me in shambles
This scene and that one scene in the last movie (iykyk)... Sam's love for Frodo was so true and pure he could resist the Ring
Frodo could have killed him and still Sam would've understood and forgiven him. That's why Sam is the only REAL GOAT
Guys amazing detail.. Look at 50:32 ..You didnt show us that scene but you saw it .. While Haldir is greeting Aragorn, Elvish soldiers didnt respond anything..But..While Legolas and Haldir greet each other, at that exact moment Elvish soldiers return to them and do respectful military standing salute. Because Legolas is the son and heir of King Thranduil. He is the prince of the Elven kingdom of Mirkwood. And the elves have great respect for the dynasty
The Noldor looked down on the other Elves but Haldir might have been Nandor or Silvan and most of his archers would have been Silvan like the subjects of Legolas father.
@tileux Elrond and Galadriel are Noldor, that does not mean all their subjects are,
Always loved that scene 😍
@tileuxthere were few Noldor in Lothlórien because Galadriel and Celeborn were leading mostly Sindar Elves and in Lothlórien there were Sindar and Silvan elves when they become the rulers.
Also, not all Noldor thought less of Sindar. In fact they were few and mostly from Fëanor's people
Nah you’re reading too into it. It’s just a cool way to punctuate that they are ready to fight with men.
I’ve heard the word “juicy” more times in this video than I probably have in the last three or four years of my life combined.
It still blows my mind that even the "Making of" of these movies is almost as enjoyable as the movies themselves.
If you haven't seen it yet, I highly recommend it.
From the look at the camera for the kicking the helmet scene and the reaction the girls gave to seeing Gandalf coming back, subscribing.
So, the Battle of Helm's Deep took 3 months to film, used 2,000 extras, they did it at night while it was raining plus they had to use some artificial rain on shots. The filming logistics had to be absolutely insane. 2-3 hours to apply the makeup for a single actor if being close to the camera shot. I hope y'all watch the making of these movies because it's insane. As an example, to make the chain mail for the LOTR movies, two guys spent over two years linking rings into chain mail. Altogether, they used 12.5 million rings and each chainmail contained 80,000 rings.
"the little kid looks like Aragon" that is because he is the actors son in real life
The extended edition contains, among many other scenes, a beautiful flashback scene with Faramir, Boromir and their father nobody who loves Boromir should NEVER miss! I hope you could watch also the extended editions of the three movies, sooner or later; they are in some way a complete different movie.
Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result.
Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons.
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Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart.
But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again.
The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️).
Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film.
It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!”
It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
The extended edition adds so much more to Boromir's character! You get such a better sense of the type of person that he was, and why his people loved him, and it adds to his tragic death in the first movie. Definitely part of the reason why I always recommend the extended editions to people who haven't seen it yet.
Gimli is on the back of the horse because dwarves and horses tend not to mix. He doesn’t know how to control one. Dwarves culture does not need a lot of horses underground. They use ponies sometimes for wagons and such, but they have little use for horses. They are extremely hardy, have unparalleled endurance, and would much rather get to and fro using their own two legs. That’s how Gimli was able to keep up with Legolas and Aragorn on the run. Love to see the younger generations fall in love with this story. ❤🇨🇦👍🏼
“Until at last I through down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountain side” is such a great line.
Fun fact: this line is changed from the actual line in the books, maybe as a misinterpretation.
I'm pretty sure the actual line says something along the lines of how Gandalf smote his enemy upon the RUIN of the MOUNTAINSIDE.
Think about that for a second. He's not saying he ruined his enemy. He's saying the smiting RUINED THE MOUNTAINSIDE. The balrog's death and fight with gandalf was just THAT DESTRUCTIVE. It ruined a MOUNTAIN.
to the girl in the white bandana. your reaction about gandalf literally gave me life. thank you so much
She drove me nuts. I fast forwarded to the bits I wanted to watch.
Honestly this felt more like the girls' reaction than everyone's reaction. They are SO much more emotive than the dudes, haha.
@@DM-nw5lu definitely
@@DM-nw5lu I mean a few of them already have seen it and still got choked up during the emotional parts. Just because they aren't hysterically crying doesn't mean they aren't feeling.
@@BanditoBurritoyeah, but if they all watched in silence without emoting or saying anything like the two dudes in the far left and right of the couch I could just go watch the movies by myself again because it would not anything of entertaining since the point of these "first time reactions" are the... Reactions
17:10 I'm here for the pure joy the ladies saw seeing Gandalf the GOAT return
never been happier in my life besides marrying Carter
Sad that they won't get to see Faramir's flashback, or the funny scene of Eowyn's bad cooking and Aragorn's age reveal. Good thing that they might be watching the third in its extended version at least
So why didn’t they watch the extended versions?
@@TheMan21892 It looks like they are watching on Netflix, so maybe it's not available there, they just went with the quickest solution at the time I guess.
if youre firsttime watching lotr, im not sure if every part, as extended cut, is a good idea
i love fellowship for example, but im not sure, back then, if i wouldve enjoyed it as much...with all the hobbit lore that comes with extended.
its just so long that some people would get bored a bit, i think.
The best in my opinion is Eowyn's singing at the funeral.
@@cptnhero6116 I have never seen *anyone* complain about the extended editions being too long. Personally, when I watched the extended editions for the first time, I thought to myself, “Why the hell did they cut these scenes? They’re so good!” And I was left with a deeper appreciation for the films.
a harry potter marathon with this group would be so much fun to watch
The shit eating grin seeing Aragorn kick the helmet 😂
I read that on one of the "mountaintop cities" they removed the native vegetation and kept it alive in greenhouses. When filming was done, they removed the set and put the native vegetation back where it had been. Very cool.
Gandalf in the first movie: "Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life... Do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For not even the wise can see all ends.”
The crew: "Aww Gandalf is so wise!"
The crew upon seeing Gollum: Slit his throat. Don't pity him, just kill him,
Me: Did you learn nothing? One of the main themes of Tolkien's philosophy is mercy.
Galadriel also backs him up on that last point (in reference to the mirror). “Even the wisest cannot tell.” That realization of there always being more at play than can truly be reckoned by any (possibly including even Eru in some circumstances) is great wisdom in itself.
It's their 1st watch, give them a break
I think this is just a side effect of growing up on modern media rather than classical tales of heroism. The modern nihilistic view of the world that is so prevalent in modern media has really shaped how a lot of people think
@@MasterIceyy I mean to be fair being realistic is better than idealistic. Not killing Grima is a real mistake and shows why mercy is folly sometimes. Gollum is a good showing of that but that came down to sheer luck as well.
I prefer Tywin from GoT who uses the red wedding rather than killing thousands on the field.
@icebox1954 your "realism" is why the modern world is garbage and soulless
Everybody needs a Sam in their life. He's a GOAT not because he's your typical hero, but just by staying beside his friend through & thin makes him so true.
Everyone should BE a Sam
The Brave or not, he’s Samwise the Real One. The ride or die gardener.
Sam is a true Hufflepuff. Loyal till the end.
Neat bit of technical trivia - the motion capture technology developed for this trilogy was a huge leap forward for the whole VFX industry, but they still couldn't get Gollum's mouth animations to look right when trying to use the mo-cap data from Andy Serkis' mouth movements. So instead, they VFX crew animated every single frame of Gollum's mouth BY HAND to ensure it looked as realistic as possible. That's one of the reasons for why the overall VFX for the character of Gollum still looks so dang good despite being two and a half decades old.
Nah you can't get rid of "juicy"
"Gandalf is too juicy to die" is now one of my favourite sentences
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If I ever hear people I know start unironically using "juicy" I will kms
@@ThwipThwipBoom Juicy sweet, precious
I only wish, to catch a fish, so juicy sweet!
That's all right. Shadowheart is juicier anyway. @@ThwipThwipBoom
11:57 yep, we all know what you're thinking!
"Hey, did you know when..."
@@longstrider2734 never in the history of humankind has a toe been talked about so much by so many people.
the girls' attachment to Gandalf is so extremely endearing ❤
For some reason, Jackson chose not to portray what Tolkien called 'perhaps the most tragic moment' in the story (and Sam's moment of failure):
“And so Gollum found them hours later, when he returned, crawling and creeping down the path out of the gloom ahead. Sam sat propped against the stone, his head dropping sideways and his breathing heavy. In his lap lay Frodo’s head, drowned deep in sleep; upon his white forehead lay one of Sam’s brown hands, and the other lay softly upon his master’s breast. Peace was in both their faces.
Gollum looked at them. A strange expression passed over his lean hungry face. The gleam faded from his eyes, and they went dim and grey, old and tired. A spasm of pain seemed to twist him, and he turned away, peering back up towards the pass, shaking his head, as if engaged in some interior debate. Then he came back, and slowly putting out a trembling hand, very cautiously he touched Frodo’s knee-but almost the touch was a caress. For a fleeting moment, could one of the sleepers have seen him, they would have thought that they beheld an old weary hobbit, shrunken by the years that had carried him far beyond his time, beyond friends and kin, and the fields and streams of youth, an old starved pitiable thing.
But at that touch Frodo stirred and cried out softly in his sleep, and immediately Sam was wide awake. The first thing he saw was Gollum - ‘pawing at master,’ as he thought.
‘Hey you!’ he said roughly. ‘What are you up to?’
‘Nothing, nothing,’ said Gollum softly. ‘Nice Master!’
‘I daresay,’ said Sam. ‘But where have you been to - sneaking off and sneaking back, you old villain? ‘
Gollum withdrew himself, and a green glint flickered under his heavy lids.”
Wow that excerpt is absolutely heartbreaking 😭
This is the first reaction I have ever seen that draws attention to the songs at the ends. Good work.
They way the girls reacted to Gandalf was me honestly
"I can fight"
"OH I remember her."
Lol 😂
Just FYI, the movie actually does Faramir dirty. In the books, he is not tempted by the ring at all. He's on the same level of honor as Aragorn in that regard. He's lived in the shadow of his brother, which you will see in the next movie, and so he already knows the deceit of power. He aids Frodo once he knows who he is and his task. Taking him and the ring to Gondor was never an option in his mind.
While I love the movies, this was my chief complaint when they came out. I, and many others, were offended at this change, as it is slanderous to Faramir's character.
I agree, but I see why they did it. Everyone so far has been tempted by the ring and when it's this condensed it would be very jarring if someone suddenly wasn't even tempted. It's sort of required for narrative consistency, they do that to every character who gets a reason to be tempted.
I agree. Peter Jackson probably wanted to highlight Aragorn as honorable, virtuous and strong, and that Faramir being tempted by the Ring was to reinforce the fact that all men are easily corrupted by it. I just don't think that portraying Faramir correctly would've taken away from Aragorn too much.
They also changed Aragon as well, I like movie Aragon more than book. In the book he had little conflict with his heritage and wanted the throne. Movie Aragon has a better character arc to accept who he is and his destiny. It made his journey more rewarding to me.
This is the same write-by-the-manual reasoning that was applied to Aragorn. Characters are required to have 'character arcs' and so Aragorn must begin as the Reluctant King and claim his kingship (and sword) much later in the story. Similarly, Faramir has to start by taking Frodo to his father, and only reach the point of rejecting the Ring later, after an added (and, from a plot standpoint, pointless) excursion to Osgiliath ("By rights, we shouldn't even be here" may be an acknowledgment that this was a Jackson invention). I suppose I can understand why Jackson felt there had to be a story beat here, but book-Faramir has a sort of signature line, spoken twice, "I would not take this thing, if it lay by the highway." Jackson could have redeemed his treatment of Faramir a bit by giving him this book line at the end.
Oddly (weak spoilers), Jackson later slanders Denethor, who is already one of the book's more complex characters, one whose motivations are subtle, by reducing him to a one-note nuisance.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't really tempted. In the scenes with Faramir looking at the ring, he just says that he wants to take it to Gondor, to his father, to finally get some of his love and show his worth, I don't see that he just wants the ring for himself
Its insane how you can pick any of the 3 as your favorite/the best and it wouldnt be wrong.
Two Towers is mine, but if anyone said Fellowship or Return they would be so right bestie
Y'all at the part where Aragorn kicked the helmet, "If you know, you know." 😂 The girls reactions to the Gandalf The White reveal were too good, reactions like that are what make these fun to watch. Addie being so emotional after Aragorn "died", I was like just wait, glad she's even more attached to him in this movie though. Oh and it's ok Carter, the parts where you've been in shambles, it's been the same for me.
"I forgot the ring. Gosh dangit." A man after my own heart.
Samwise speech is something everyone needs to hear.
Tolkien read the LotR to his friends in their meetings as the story developed. This group was a selection of fellows who were experts in poetry, ancient mythology and theology.
It is told that at times even C. S. Lewis moved to tears while listening the story.
Where can I read about this?
@@johndimick1767The group was known as the Inklings, and met in a pub they knew as “The Bird and Baby” - it’s actually called The Eagle and Child - located in St Giles, Oxford. Googling “The Inklings” gives you plenty of material; also the Tolkien movie touches on his friendship with some of the group’s members.
Nice touch to the reaction that Sam's end speech silenced everyone, and when people dont say nothing says much about how good they are reacting!
And now... comes the Return of the King
This channel has brought me a lot of joy, just like several other reaction channels. I believe that having people who have never seen The Lord of the Rings and us seeing their authentic reactions firsthand makes everything so much better. Why? Seeing these reactions gives me a small piece of what it was like for me to watch it for the first time and takes me back to that nostalgic sentiment! Thank you! Keep doing what you do and always bring people who have never seen classic works like this!
I love how the girls started crying when Gandalf came back
During the filming of the battle of helms deep, many of the New Zealander actors and stuntmen who played the Urak kai, before one of the takes, lined up in front of the guys playing the defenders, and performed a traditional Māori Haka, a challenge given before battle, just like the All blacks rugby team does before games. So far no one has found the footage of this sadly, but it would be awesome to see 😊
Viggo was also given a haka after his last day of shooting. He then responded with giving a headbutt to everyone there...
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okay, now when the trilogy is done. you have to re-watch the extended editions.
J R R Tolkien (author of LOTR) was a Veteran of WW 1 and saw many friends die in the war. It stayed with him all his life...all the horrors he witnessed...the area of the death marshes was a "recall of the horrors of the battlefields" he saw during the war. he never forgot it.
@@BillieArd The part about the dead marshes includes Legolas’ Father; Thranduil, & grandfather Oropher, were to join the Last Alliance in from a different angle to achieve a certain war tactic but Oropher and others got waylayed by orcs & many corrupted men which lead to eventually Oropher dying there, this loss effected Legolas’s father so very deeply forevermore.
The bond between he and his son is the same bond Thranduil has with Legolas. And the braid he wears is to honour his grandfather. I believe after his death braids became less common. A sort of respect thing I believe.
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Both his father and Grandfather lived in Doriath(Elu Thingol’s domain[Elwë], which was heartbea of middle earth; Aside from Gondolin which held this mantle until it’s secret location was given up by a tortured elf who was the son of a very important mother who was the sister of the high king Turgon).
All on a landmass called Beleriand that sunk under the sea after a set of disastrous events that lead to many greater outcomes much later on in the legendarium.
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This here is a whole set of stories of which also includes a quite a bit of Galadriel too but moreso other characters during this era. Of Beren And Lùthien comes to mind and Children Of Hurin!! You’ll fall in love even more after the third movie. Then you can enter into the lore videos like Moviejoob and OmarioRPG have done reaction videos too. Amazing stuff.
One thing to add though is this scene resembles a lot from the other battle Tolkien was involved in called The Battle Of Somme. Look into it and tell me your thoughts.
I’ll add something here though: that clan of elves really didn’t like being under the command of anyone else so they went ahead without the order and let’s just say it didn’t end well. That and they weren’t fond of the Ñoldor… huge history there as to why that is. That and the Sindar subgroup of these clans were a tiny bit more isolationist.
But there are many amazing Sindar in the legendarium too Elrond and his two sons and daughter are connected to all of the main clans of men and elves through the union of his half elf father and full elf(quarter goddess) mother. Who essentially played a huge role in saving the world from the original dark lord Morgoth. Gained the Favour Of Valinor.
Which subsequently lead to Numenor being a gift from the sea to the men who helped. Becoming blessed. Their land existing within the light of Valinor as it was situated closely to The Undying Lands. (The same ancestry Aragorn has that Èowyn spoke of while they were travelling to Helm’s Deep! (Elrond’s Twin Brother became the first king of Númenor.
His name becoming Tar-Minyatur, and those faithful to Eru, the elves and the natural world all of this line carried Tar before their name! Ar for Aragorn is the word meaning Noble in his tongue called Adúnaic. That too is a fleshed out language Tolkien created too. Elvish languages also were placed into the official list of world languages too!
"A wizard should know better!" Carries the same sort of emotional pain as when Gandalf heard Frodo saying he will take the ring. You can hear a unique sort of agony in his cries.
The Battle of Helm's deep is amazing. Even though Haldir didn't die at Helm's Deep in the books. His death scene is still so sad
Totally. And considering immortality vs mortality is a major theme of the books, it helps invoke that theme even if most of the material in the books had to be left out.
Love the girl in the headbands reaction when gandalf returned.
You can just see the great writing of Tolkien and the excellent excellent acting of sir Ian McKellen to make you feel so much for that character to bring the audience to tears.
When i saw this in the theater people cheered at this moment.
"Shadowfax, is the name of my first baby. " 😂 I can't lie though, Strider was on our baby name list, and it is just badass.
11:53 in this take of this scene, Viggo kicked an actual steel helmet instead of one of the prop helmets he was meant to kick, which he had been kicking repeatedly trying to get it to fly past the camera in the right way. He got it to go the right way in this take, but the helmet was steel, and he broke his toe doing so. Instead of stopping the take, he cried out in pain and continued acting.
The sword Gandalf wielded caused the Balrog’s primordial sword to burst into a rain of molten lava in an almost majestic way. It too belong to high elven king Turgon of the great hidden realm of Gondolin, surrounded by tallest mountains. Named Glamdring; meaning “Foe Hammer”. Gandalf broke the balrog’s unholy weapon. Epic right?
His original staff broke when he let some of his true powers show to grant a miracle from his own life force. This is the same thing for how the elves do “magic” Galadriel herself tells Frodo and Sam that things elves do may seem like magic but they don’t really use such a word since they are one with the world, symbiotic with it if the world perished so would they.
Just so you know; the balrog and Gandalf fought for 10 days straight. Then eldrich terrors(nameless things) assailed them both and they begrudgingly fought them off together and Gandalf resumed his chase of the balrog up the endless stairs of Dúrin’s Tower where they fought up at the top of ZirakZigil
Gandalf was given the ring of fire (Narya) by one of the oldest remaining elves from the first clans to wake beneath the stars before the sun and moon ever existed; at the Cuiviènen river named Círdan. Its best attribute was it raises the spirits of those who wear it. Bolstering internal strength and so forth. He knew it would aid Gandalf in his quest from the Valar and Eru Îlluvatar (the one AllFather) themselves to bolster the spirits of the free peoples of middle earth and to sow seeds of hope within the hearts of Men, Elves and Dwarves alike.
When she says "Juicy" every 5 minutes.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Well that's just INCONCIEVABLE
I asked, in the last movie, how and why everything was either "cute" or "juicy". lol
@@ThatBlackPiano Kids these days. Man I'm old
She gets in my nerves with the juicy thing. I'm enjoying the reactions but it's like listening to teens who only know two words to describe anything
the amount of willpower to not immeadiately explain that viggo mortensen broke his toe
You beauties, I literally watched the last video yesterday and was sad that the next one wasn't out yet, I am so glad I checked today, I love seeing people fall in love with the world of The Lord of the Rings, gonna enjoy every moment, hope the conversion of these haters is going well! 🤣
If I recall Sean Astin did choke while eating a piece of lembas. The props people basically made a dry shortbread cookie which really wasn’t easy to eat without water.
You call it Shadow of Colossus. Gandalf calls it Tuesday.
Find yourself a friend who's as loyal as Sam, fr.
Or be the friend who’s Loyal like Sam.
@@zakarenaboy Indeed, people should seek to both be Sam and be friends with Sam. The world would be a much better place with more Sam.
U dint deserve one if ur not frodo...so try be a same instead
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48:05 the fact that no one bats an eye at that interaction is so funny 😭😂
I’m glad to see a younger generation appreciate a story like this. People these days seem more interested in flashy effects, sexuality, etc., but if you notice about Jackson’s trilogy, there’s no sexuality, not a single swear word, but it is a story that features the best of humanity who are facing insurmountable odds, despair, fear, etc., yet put aside their differences to fight alongside one another to fight a common evil.
LOTR is exactly how to feature heroes, decency, courtesy, and show how goodness truly is the greatest tool to bring others together and to defeat the enemies of that goodness.
“What can man do against such reckless hate?”
“Ride out. Ride out and meet them.”
You will never find a better story than this. (Also, the book was better, and I still praise these movies as great)
That's why these are fictional movies. In real world villains are like Candice, Andrew Tate, Sneako, have to be defeated by other ways.. not by swords .. These villains attacking minds of people..
@@percyweasley9301 I am sorry but the fact that those are your "villians" is laughable.
What are you on about? These are movies they all would of grown up with…
These movies are also the most effects heavy movies for the time they came out.
wtf is "would of"? it's called "would have" @@YourBlackLocal
@@danielhejlund3314 💔💔Ofcourse you find this laughable.. That's proof my point. The fact that you don't see them as villains who destroying minds of people by horrible teachings, misinformation about so many things, exactly the reason I'm saying. You are part of Shauron's army in real world.. And he is not using swords, and orgs this time, this far more sinister and horrifying.. He don't need ring to corrupt minds.
hahaha "im sorry i said juicy so much" the character growth n.n
Sadly, Bernard Hill, the actor who played Theoden, died recently. What a role he played here though.
Dude, the look of their faces when Gandalf revealed himself to be alive. Almost as epic as that shot with Gandalf pointing his sword at the balrog while it's being imbued with lightning! Timeless, epic image right there.
Having read the book several times before the movies came out, it was fascinating to see the Theatrical Cut in theaters in real time unfold with the craftsmanship to get the world to feel like Middle-Earth, what was included, what was left out, what was so different that felt out of place, but overall a great solid experience in a theater.... but one year cliffhangers were tough to accept! (The Theatrical Cuts are perfectly fine for first time watchers, imho)
Imagine what it was like when the books first came out! The Two Towers film ends a little farther along the stories, and the cliffhanger in the Tower of Cirith Ungol (no spoilers) was awful.
Glorfindel was a lord of Gondolin, who after the city fell was helping civilians flee. A Balrog was set on a mountain pass to ambush & genocide the citizens in what was known as Battle Of Sudden Flame. Glorfindel battles the Balrog solo, which culminates in both falling off the mountain into a ravine to their mutual destruction.
Ecthelion was also a lord of Gondolin, and the warden of the city’s gate. He had been injured fighting through the city during its fall. The remaining forces were in the centre square, with the city’s Fountain (of which Ecthelion was lord of the people of the fountain). Gothmog, captain of the Balrogs, breaks through with the attack. He wounds Ecthelion, who - due to his injuries - cannot hold neither sword nor shield. So he leaps at Gothmog, rams his spiked(bladed helmet) helmet into the Balrog, and causes both of them to tumble into the Fountain. They are both too heavy to swim, and both injured, so they both drown (or have their inner fire extinguished). The steam from the fountain’s ruin adds to the chaos, assisting in some fleeing the city with Tuor, the princess Idril, and Glorfindel.
(Remember the prologue war in the fellowship of the ring? See those curved Blade-Esque things ontop of the elvish men’s helmets? That’s due to the ancient battle of Echthelion and the Balrog at Gondolin making its way into augmented design for their armour.)
So it’s also a theme that happens in the books where there usually is always something to do with falling into water. Except Fëanor who slayed several balrogs at once & Gothmog slayed him after one bound him suddenly when he was supposed to have a “one on one” duel with Gothmog but one wasn’t wanting to play fair. But he was fatally wounded and so his sons and host moved him away to a safe place where his body burned up from the fires of his own spirit. This was at The Battle Under Stars (Dagor Nuin Giliath).
Did you notice during Smeagol/Gollum debate, his pupils in his eyes change from large and friendly to small and evil?
The girl's reaction to this film is endearing to me. The fact they straight up cried seeing Gandalf back is so wholesome
11:54 Bro was dying to drop the old "Did you know..." here
Brilliant how they mixed both voices to create a sense of confusion when they met Gandalf in Fangorn forest.
Galadriel is the one who pleaded the WindLord Gwaihir, one of the eagle formed Maiar), to go to the top of Durin’s Tower at Zirakzigil. He was recuperated by her own hand and skills. Bringing back a god of sorts is quite a feat which fits her prowess in several fields as she was known to have learned from all of the Valar, all that there was left to teach by each of them.
The staff was given to him by Galadriel in Lothlórien and enhanced his powers upon his return.
His old brown staff was a gift from Radagast (another wizard of the Istari Order after he escaped from Saruman’s current abode in Orthanc, hand carved from an old branch.
The white staff was a gift from Galadriel, made by elven smiths from Mallorn wood. (Mallanornë by the elves. Interestingly looks similar to the elvish word for Friend, Mellon. But that’s just me being inquisitive.)
That new staff before he sacrificed it to do a spell of sorts against the Balrog in Khazad-Dûm. That one was called Opening Flower. (His portrayal in The Hobbit movies are a little bit funny but it slightly sort of suits the aspect of that book which was more whimsical so I guess they wanted to make him act much different.
Granted Radagast sort of strayed from the path but his main mission was to guard and protect nature itself on behalf of Yavannah. The Valar that chose him as her champion to head into middle earth with the other 4 istari.
The white staff was most likely named something along the lines of Marta Nieninquë (Fated WhiteTearSnowflower), or Ninquelotë which is “White/snow Flower”. Or Ninquë Merillë “White Rose”. (Derivatives of Merillë is also Feast and Festive, think of his fireworks for example. Single rose is Meril or like single flower is Elloth.
Another Elvish flower term is “ninglor” noun for golden water-flower, gladden.
But since Mithrandir is his name by the elves for grey wanderer I wanted to add Mithril to the name of his new staff as it contains similarity to his elvish name so “Mithrillottë” meaning “Flower Of TrueSilver”
Or maybe due to the snowy mountain he died upon, the new staff name could be “Olórin olea Ollosë” meaning “The Dream/Vision that bloomed and flourishes upon the Fallen Snow” by how it’s implied.
Olórin is Gandalf’s real angelic name so it is basically describing how the dream of hope that rekindled itself in the harshest of conditions. Like a resilient type of flower, Ollosë is the fallen snow. Olea is the action of plants specifically growing & living.
Another elvish flower name I love is for Daisy “Eirien”. Lothlórien itself means “DreamFlower”. Galadriel’s realm. ❤️
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(Elvish had grown ALOT over the ages. Even some forms of elvish are even more archaic even for other elves who at times may experience a little bit of difficulty understanding or simply noting one’s accent and speed of which one talks internally.
The girls crying when Gandalf came back, and the guys all visibly fighting back their big-ass grins before the reveal was so cute 😭
you know shit is cracking when Legolas busts out his swords.
"then I shall die as one of them!"
Aragorn IS the man
what a legend
Addie bringing the energy to this team. She's a keeper.
13:45 - The Gandalf spoiler faces. 😆
Also the girls' reaction to Gandalf's return~ 🙌
For me, the biggest difference between the two movies is that the first shows the natural order of the world, as it should be in Tolkien's mind, and the second shows the corruption of the manufacturing world of Isengard. There is also so much more character building, through symbolism, Aragorn: coming into his legacy. Sam: showing the loyalty and love he has for Frodo. Frodo: Seeing the corruption of the ring. Legolas and Gimily: two races that have been in war for years coming together. Theoden: being saved from darkness and seeing the shame he has in himself (hint this is big). Gandalf: giving a glimps into the greater world or the World even beyond Middle Earth. Frodo's relationship with Gollum: relates back to Bilbo and Gollum.
Overall, this movie builds a lot of tension between the first and the third movies. The ladies have mentioned wanting to read the books which will help them appreciate the more subtle references that are in the movies. The movies do well for the time they had and they were able to make reference to so much in the books that casual watchers would not notice. These movies are truly incredible and I am really looking forward to seeing the reaction the to 3rd.
The movie to watch after The Trilogy for Orlando Bloom fans has to be the director's cut of Kingdom of Heaven.
You know the game everyone!
Take a shot after every "Juicy, Cute" or "Rizz!"
We really toned it down for this one 🥲
@@bradlynnandrus Haha, it's all jokes. Love the reactions; keep being you!
"No thanks, I choose life."
Gandalf's "I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountain side" goes hard
"Shadowfax is gonna be the name of my first kid..." 😂😂😂
If we're crying for the obviously not-dead death of Aragorn in this movie, then you better get some stacks of tissues ready for the next one 😅
Sam's speech always makes me cry. It's my favorite part of the whole series.
So funfact, the flag flying off in that scene wasnt in the script. Was just super windy that day and they were like "write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN!!"
If my man was getting chocked up at Sam’s speech that much I can’t wait for a few moments in return of the king
11:53 Fun fact: Aragorn's actor Viggo Mortensen was asked to retry this kick scene over and over for so many times, that eventually he grew tired of it and kicked the helmet so strong he hurt his foot and cracked his toe, yet he kept in character and made this painful scream, which Peter Jackson chose as the winning take for the scene and this is the one we see here.
Addie's reaction to Gandalf the White legit had me getting emotional. What a wholesome reaction
❤️ Cosmically Epic Lembas history - written by elven LoreMaster named Pengolodh. Lembas was made first by the Vala named Yavanna from special corn that grew in Aman, and Oromë gave it to the Elves for the purpose of the Great Journey. For this reason, it was an Elven custom that only women should make lembas; they were called Yavannildi who knew the secret of its recipe from Oromë.
Also, the custom mandated that only an Elven Queen should keep and distribute the lembas; for this reason she was called also massánië or besain.
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Only on rare occasions was it given to non-Elves, because it was believed that mortals who ate it would become weary of their mortality and would desire to live among the Elves.
The corn was an enduring plant that needed but a little sunlight to ripen and could be sown at any season and then sprouted and grew swiftly. Yet it was harmed by north winds, while Morgoth dwelt there.
The Eldar grew it in guarded lands and sunlit glades. The ears were harvested without scythe or sickle but each one was gathered by hand, and the white stalks were drawn from the earth and used to weave baskets in which the grain was stored.
Melian, as the queen of Doriath, was one who held the recipe from Yavanna. By giving lembas to Beleg for Túrin, Melian showed him great favour because it had never before been given to Men and seldom was again. Later it was passed to Galadriel and other Elves.
When ships had been sent forth, at the behest of Turgon, towards the West, its mariners carried a sealed wallet with waybread for their voyage. Voronwë, after surviving the wreck, shared it with Tuor throughout their journey to Gondolin.
Dúnedain, inspired by the elves, made a similar kind of waybread (although it was not true lembas), that they carried on long journeys. So each of Isildur's soldiers on their way north from the War of the Last Alliance "carried in a sealed wallet on his belt a small phial of cordial and wafers of a waybread that would sustain life in him for many days".
The Galadhrim had a large store of lembas in Lothlórien. Galadriel gave some of it to the Fellowship of the Ring upon their departure. Frodo Baggins and Samwise Gamgee subsisted on it through the majority of their journey from there into Mordor.
The tradition of farming the Western Corn and the making of waybread was lost for ever in Middle-earth after the departure of Galadriel and the death of Arwen.
One of the only places left where this untouched holy wheat can be grown is the groves within Lothlórien.