These fan-favorite Yu-Gi-Oh decks... are MISERABLE TO PLAY AGAINST!
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2023
- Oh, boy, Toons! Surely I won't be in for an hour-long brickfest!
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Crystal Beast really do be ending on nothing and somehow winning
I watched Hard leg play them this month and all of his games have been A him bricking B his opponent bricking or C him somehow grinding out a win with no actual idea how he won.
Idk man last time i swipe their whole board, they retaliate OTK me with surprise LGBT dragon 12k atk from ED 😅
neshy... you cant do your own deck like that
Factssss ❤
@@MasterDuelCentral oh hello didn’t expect you here
Watching the 400th game of DM on masterduel has permanently rotted my brain and I don’t think I can recover
Playing against millionth DM player in duel links has made me braindead. You should be fine.
That, and that guy who BM'd, showoff-ing all SS routes of dark magicians just because he resolves dark burning magic on previous turn, in gold rank IV.
I've against so much Dark Magician I know how to play it despite having never read any of their cards
I have seen a DM player somehow manage to win against Spright, and it wasn't one of the skillful ones or a meta slave, dude was magician rod pass.
I always try to speedrun gold at the season begginning for this reason
A Madolche hater? You can't fool me, TheActMan, I know it's you in disguise!
that opinion alone almost got me to cheer for that TV review dude lol
@@MaruhodoIn hindsight, this aged like milk, but goddamn it's funny
The dark magician one is perfectly on point.
Always frustrating that you always lose more to Skill Drain rather than DM cards
@@windunursetyadi don't forget about secret village
True that. That's why I just called them Floodgates Magician instead since that's what the deck actually do.
Especially in MD, 99% of DM opponents that I fought are literally just skill drain + secret village as the wincon most of the time. You can't even defend their so called "DM playstyle" either as the moment you remove ANY of their floodgates, they scoop.
Reminds me of a particularly frustrating loss against, what my opponent called, War Rock.
I saw him normal one and was all like “oh neat, very risky choice. Show me what they can do”
And then he flipped up TCBOO and summon limit.
I told him that I lost to the floodgates and not War Rocks and he got offended
That's Master Duel and RUclips highlight videos in a nutshell. And. It only against Tear, people were doing the same shit since Drytrons were the best deck
Toons is one of those archetypes that should be getting a constant wave of new cards simply due to their lore i.e turning other duelist's monsters into toon versions. Yet Konami decided to limit them to DM monsters aside from just Ancient Gear Golem and Cyber Dragon from GX. They still don't even have a single extra deck monster. We should have a Toon version of every main and rival anime character's ace card (Stardust Toon Dragon, Red Toon Dragon Archfiend, Number 39: Toon Utopia, Galaxy-Eyes Toon Dragon, etc.).
I'd like to see a Toon Borreload
How about "Galaxy Eyes Photoon Dragon"?
Toon Utopia would be so cool!
Toon is one of the archetype that can get searcher that say "fill your hand with every toon from deck" and still dosent matter.. all the monsters sucks!
Too good of an idea for Komoney
I think a harder question to ask is what's a deck that's actually FUN to play against? It seems like the goal of any remotely viable deck in this game is to make the opponent as miserable as possible.
This video made me realize people don't like playing against any deck, lol.
Yeah like... FTK bad, OTK bad, floodgate bad, towers bad, combo bad, control bad, what the hell is a "fun and interactive" deck, Tear? Not unless you're also playing Tear, it's not!
Tear mirrors
People Sure love to bitch about yugiboomers but they do have a point when every modern card is designed to not let your opponent play the game
@@drjebait5974 that design philosopy already exist at the beginning of the game, like the first deck ever viabel was handrips deck that focuses on making the opponent have 0 card with card like forceful sentry, delinquient duo, etc
ah yes, the most yugiboomer archetypes: madolche and pendulum
If anyone cares and doesn't already know, Hexproof is specifically targeting protection _from your opponent_ , you can still target a hexproof creature with your own cards/ effects; Hex is a term referring to a spell that's typically in some way harmful, which most spells your opponent would try to cast on your monsters likely are. Therefore a monster that resists being targeted by your opponents spells/ "hexes" would be "Hexproof".
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But what if your opponent did use a beneficial spell on you?
@@DaDualityofMan From my experience, when another player gives you a beneficial spell, its usually to do something to screw you over, or helps them in some way
@@jeremycocciolone9223 I don’t doubt that lol, it happens in Yugi Oh too
@@DaDualityofMan Could just be me watching too many commander centric games, but ive seen decks that give your opponent stuff juat to screw them over with the very things you give them later.
@@jeremycocciolone9223grouphug go brrr
You came for my friend Jake's favorite deck (Six Samurai), then my friend J's favorite deck (Madolche), then for my original tournament deck (Gren Maju).
What bowl of cereal did my playgroup piss into?
Everyone's
As a Six Samurai player, I can say with 100% certainty the hate is justified. Modern 6 sam has been a LITERAL solitaire deck for a while. You try and go first, you pray they either don't have ash/droll or you draw your 1 of instant fusion / called by, and you proceed to combo for like 15 minutes while you build a baronne, 4 mat appo, borreload, naturia beast, and a shi en. The only good thing I can say about it, is that at least it's a fun solitaire deck to pilot. As combo decks go, it's variable and flexible, and it doesn't always take the same line even though they do usually wind up with a similar board.
As a gren maju player, cry more, I will continue to absolutely meme on you while going second and I'll do it without even using fissure. You just spam level 8 dangers / kaijus, trigger a bunch of necroface and orochi effects and just walk over their face with some BEEFY LADS. And if you brick and don't draw your gren, you just make draglubion into numeron dragon and kill them that way, get owned nerds.
@@DarkAuraLord as a six Sams player I agree and god forbid they even think bout touching gate if you don’t have those negates gates gone and you got no way of getting it back
I have never lost to Six Samurai, because all it does is time out, and nothing else.
@@DarkAuraLord Despian Quaeritis sends it's regards
Yu-Gi-Oh really is just one big game of players hating other decks for trying to not let them play the game while simultaneously playing a deck that tries to do the exact same thing. Negates, floodgates, OTK's. It's all the same goal. Hopefully you play and your opponent does not. And I love that lol
Dire’s title editing is always excellent.
and the Battle Network 6 battle theme, too, Dire's incredibly based this episode.
Always a treat!
Rare Dire W
You know Dire hits when she starts taking liberties on MBTs videos.
Mid at best
I don't want to defend Kairyu too much. But to give it credit, the entire gimmick of the deck at least matches up with how it was played in the anime. So its floodgate isn't out of left field like literally all the in archetype boss monsters that are just skill drain, please explain to me why Rexterm skill drains.
Rextrem can't restrain Timelords thou, since those fellas have 0 attack
But at least you have a point... Feels "fair" after that BS of a"Atack the moon" thou
It is because of this that I lobby for allowing players with a rock monster on field to yell "I ATTACK THE MOON!", causing all cards on the Kairyu player's board to self-destruct.
@@desreploid3353"Attack the Moon" is already a thing. Continuous spell card that lets you blow up spell/traps whenever a rock monster changes its battle position.
Its just flavor for “It intimidates the weak that stand before him”. The quick effect can be taken as him roaring and making other cower.
Cuz dinomorphias are a group of people high off of pain pills numbing themselves and rexterm just puts those effects on the opponent double time making them not be able to use their skills
Kairyu works the way he does as an homage to Duelist Kingdom. He is flooding the opponent’s board so there is only one place for s non-water to stand.
Exactly. Love it or hate it, the deck plays just as it was intended to from the anime.
never saw it that way, I hate it exponentially less now. I still hate it, but atleast it fits unlike 99% other floodgates in archetypes
It might be thematic, but the deck is still a ballache to play against for multiple reasons.
It wouldve been fine if the dumb tcboo style of effects didnt prevent you from using the non water monster as material for another non water monster
Necrovalley is also thematic. Doesn't mean its any less obnoxious. Stop trying to defend it and just your umi deck is just another flavor floodgate stun turbo
Madolche is one of the old decks that more or less kept its identity though, think everything its gotten has more or less kept the soul of the deck alive without going into floodgate territory. Cards like Teacher, salon and promenade feel right at home with the old cards.
They hate us because they ain't us, jealous at our flavorful and on-theme gameplay.
they're just mad cause "Spin 2?" has kept the deck rogue relevant for 11 years while their pet decks have come and gone
They are probably mad because madolche keeps beating them lol. Idk how many current meta decks I've beaten with my madolche deck.
The "good" and "interesting" decks lose to them. So yeah they probably are just mad because they lose to the deck and they can't find a good counter for it.
100% Madolche has stayed consistent and on theme with what the deck does. Even with new support.
To sum it up: Every deck that someone at some point lost against
In the Legend Anthology Festival Event I played against a toon deck that was mostly battle traps it would have been the most frustrating game ever if I wasn't playing War rock. It was the only game in the event I won with War rocks.
Honestly Legend Anthology while a format people love because "look no handtraps and my pet deck is great" for me it's literally been spam Psychic Blade Lyrilusc OTK
@@jakethereaper2060 yup seen that deck in 80% of my games it was the reason I moved from War rock to Grave keepers.
Of course Toons would find a way to lose to War Rock
@@kidumby7599 it was one of the funniest games I every played....i kick myself because I didn't save the replay.
@@jakethereaper2060 Elemental Hero OTK for me
People getting mad at OTK decks like every single modern deck can't create a lethal endboard through an interruption will always be funny. When it's Accesscode or a Borrel dragon it's fine, but my in-archetype heavy hitters are Satan himself printed on cardstock.
I’ve found a lot more people taking issue with borrelsword or accesscode than archetypal otks
@@greenhillmario as an earth machine player, i agree, killing with liebe is fun
But god fck forbid if you pull access intergrate man
*bEcAuSE hE'S sO fCkiNg gEnERIc*
there are 2 things wrong with this statement I think. First, a lot of ppl have issues with accesscode/borrelsword. Not every deck should have an otk strat in the ed. But, a deck whose sole purpose is to otk (gren maju or numeron for example) do so, with a very specific gameplan: stun and floodgates with some kaijus or every single board breaker. Neither of them are very appealing to play against, especially on the powerlevel we are talking about here.
Yes. Good to know you are aware of your sins
That's how I feel when people complain about a random deck being able to potentially OTK in Duel Links despite every other deck being able to OTK is a basic requirement to even be considered playable. It's especially dumb when talking about an "OTK enabler" that the deck can't even search for, like wanting Silent Sword Slash to be unlimited after 4 years.
Almost surprised no one mentioned Ojamas. I mean, they probably aren't anyone's favorite... except mine! But seriously, as much as I love Ojamas, why did they have to mesh Armed Dragons and all of the Light-Machine Union monsters together?
I understand Chazz also used these cards but Atem also used the Magnet Warriors, and they didn't try to make them synergize with DM. They just became their own archetype.
Because they’re been trying and failing to synergize Black Luster and Gaia with DM, I swear Dark Cavalry would be the best monster ever if I could actually summon it.
I'd say it's because they don't want zone lock to be too good but then Kashtira exists lol
@@ashikjaman1940 To be fair, Ojamas are already stepping away from zone locks. The Ojama link monster is basically just a 3k beatstick + a summon.
But like the deck has 1 search card. Ojama Blue. Unless you wanna run at least 1 Armed Dragon monster, then you have Ojamatch and a garnet. If you want free combos for link plays, or rank4s, you have to run Ojamassimilation and 3 more garnets. Ojamagic is a broken card but you gotta run 3 more garnets. Ojama Hurricane would be a great payoff card if only we had Ojamandala but that's an anime and Duel Links exclusive card, but we can slowly draw into Tri-Wright and then we got brick central.
Ojamas can do a LOT with their deck, but they could absolutely do better if they actually had support that synergized with the Ojama cards themselves rather than supporting archetypes that don't really fit in. And this is coming from someone who plays this deck daily. Like it's my favorite deck of all time.
I have a based Gren Maju list. It's a 60 card grass skull servant chaos lightsworn pile that plays Gren as a back up plan to supplement the banishing you already do
Banger deck.
My deck is 40 card list using 3 desires, 3 allure of darkness, 3 trade in and 1 prosperity. It's a dark level 8 based engine and Numeron dragon otk in the ED, currently diamond 2 and 3 wins off 1.
I've got a TCG list for it, similar to @El Gringo 's list. Playing 40 with Triple Allure, 2 Desires (thanks meta decks for getting this put to 2 🤣) triple necroface, triple orochi, triple d shifter, triple eater of millions as the banish package. Rest are kaijus and level 8 dangers. I gotta agree that Numeron Dragon is a great fit for the deck. Those games where you can't quite get far enough into your banish shenigans to get enough value out of Gren / Zeroboros are often saved by making Draglubion into Numeron.
@@DarkAuraLord I do not have any necrofaces, don't have any Kaijus personally. I just found Necroface kind of pointless, I use chaos hunter though, summoning chaos hunter at the cost of discarding Bigfoot is a delicious combination. I also only use 2 eater of millions and don't bother with zoroboros. Mine is more of a control deck so I don't often flood the board enough to make use of it, shame because I like the card. Also, I have the other number dragon as the one with a spell negate, forget it's name but it's useful
Wow, Gren Maju AND Grass!? Daring today, aren't we?
Performapals have three main themes:
1) Attack modification with smile world and big boosts and battle tricks;
2) pendulum summon turbo, meant to be pendulum summon toolbox in MR3, taking the extra deck as a backstage;
3) Making Odd-Eyes and Magicians work/summoning the Z-Arc dragons turbo.
I personally prefer the attack modification side of them, it is very possible to make a 100 attack monster turn into one with 6900 attack over the course of two turns, around 4000 in one or turning Blue eyes into Celtic Guardian. That was the best fun I had in Duel Links.
The number of permanent boosts they have simply asks me to break it.
What about the drawing cards like lizard draw and smile sorc
Dire is the GOAT. She can pull a video from nothing and post it in less than 24 hours
I don't mind Madolche. It kept its identity instead of losing it over time like other decks did and it's still fun to play and play against. If there's a fan favorite deck that I hate it's modern Synchron. Sad thing is its that a lot of the strategies these fan favorite decks employ are the same type of strategies that a lot of modern decks use. It's either a floodgate board or a negate board.
MBT also neglected to mention the existence of Petingcessour.
@@hokutology1718 yeah he has a tendency to omit facts that don't align with his bias. Case in point when ever he defends Ishizutear format.
Speaking as a Synchron pet-decker, I actually won't completely disagree with you on modern Synchrons; the standard Speeder build is honestly just a much weaker version of every other combo deck nowadays, and that's why it's kinda fallen out of favour with me. I've since gravitated more towards the Bystial variant, which isn't as combo-heavy (not in the TCG, anyways) and is way less of a glass-cannon.
@@hokutology1718best card ever, except when I had to ash previously and have no hootcake/anjelly, then it's just a sad reminder of what could've been a fun turn
Also, did we forgot Vernusylph exist?
I can feel the part about Gem-knights. I kinda liked playing the deck (in solo mode) when MD came out, found more interesting decks and tried them again for this recent event with a gem-knight loaner including their new support...yeah cool, I can combo off for 2 hours and the result is either an ftk or pass on a bunch of big beaters.
Other than that, I have this irrational hate towards Dark Magicians.
Either they floodgate you to death, slowly banishing your whole life one card per turn or they whip out one of their dozens of weirdly specific "if you control DM, blow up the whole board" cards.
Always feels cheap losing to them. But at least it's pretty satisfying to pop their Eternal Soul.
“I don’t like that you play floodgates” well I don’t like that you’re playing in my turn and that I blinked and now half your deck is on the field
The thing I hate with support for legacy archetypes like Dm, Red-Eyes, and Blue-Eyes is that they will give them support that feels like they are actually trying to modernize them and their strategies like giving Red-Eyes and Dm xyz monsters and Blue-Eyes synchro's and tuners and they just stopped doing anything else with that and just give them cards that promotes their more boring strategies like burn or to just sit on a big bungus that's doing nothing and somehow dies to your own cards.
Yeet my entire hand for 3 beatstick normal monsters? Thank you Konami, you know exactly what I want from this deck!
Or for that matter, not basically just stick to Fusions like they just want to forget that these decks have Synchro and Xyz (looking at you, Blue-Eyes)
True Draco. Worst thing I've ever played against, and I played against it a lot. The deck does absolutely nothing even remotely fun for anyone that doesn't enjoy watching their opponent seethe with rage. Infinite respect to the one guy at my locals that played it, he's an expert player and great guy, but truly he was the one that taught me you can hate a deck without hating the person playing it.
Also inherent summons are literally the dumbest concept in Yugioh outside of things that don't say target not targeting
Monarchs, but more douchey
You tell me what the fuck a creature with "Menace" is gonna do.
I love how MBT is seemingly the only Yugioh Player who has ever played another card game.
I've long been trying to figure out a deck that can use penguins in ways where other card/archetypes couldn't just replace the penguins and make the deck better. With the announcement of the crimson dragon I finally found a powerful combo... The problem is it just makes king calamity on the opponents turn and would make me feel bad if I ever actually play it...
im sorry but you can make WHAT with penguins. a replay please
think of every time you've been shiftered do it... it's worth it
Keep it on your arsenal, but don't turn it into your gameplan, rather a "must do in a pinch"
I play Labrynth with Tindangles, and unless I'm about to lose or need to recover a trap from gy, Lovely isn't summoned at all
Don't feel bad, that's exactly what I'm going to do with Synchrons and Neos once Crimson Dragon and the new Flame Wingman come out
@@alphanbuster9292 if I remember right the main combo requires Neptabyss (or diva) +
Penguin Squire (or penguin garden) + any water monster. Combo is summon Neptabyss to send and add dragoons getting Abyssmegalo discarding to summon, adding lappis dragon from discarded dragoons summon it and make penguin brave with it and Neptabyss, set puny penguin with brave triggering the summon of squire. Use squire to flip puny and make coral dragon. Puny brings back squire. Squire+megalo for Transcendrake Glacesaurus. Coral+brave for the crimson dragon. Is opponents standby use the crimson dragon targeting Transcendrake to summon king calamity... Certainly uses penguins but it feels bad that it doesn't end on any
The hex proof discourse at the end killed me. 😂
2:25 Just wanted to say that in Master Duel, Six Sams are both miserable to play against, and to play in the first place. I swear it constantly feels like I’m going to run out of time half the time because Gateway’s effect just takes that long to resolve.
Bongo man turbo
Yeah, there’s a TON of them on the Duel Links ladder atm coz they got a few cards unlimited recently. The end board basically is Shi En+ The bounce 2 trap. Either you open something that can deal with that or you lose. And opening something to deal with that is a lot harder with one less card in hand…
@@ryanager8029 I cannot imagine how Duel Links would deal with that end board lol
Yeah, I love the archetype's style, lore, and art, but even I will admit that it's a pretty boring deck to play against. It's interesting to pilot (outside of a sim that takes 15 years to resolve wiping your own ass), but you ARE effectively playing solitaire. Six Sams was my first deck that I built in 2019 when I got back into the game, and I don't regret it at all, but nowadays I only play that list for novelty - I have a lot more fun with Branded and Traptrix.
Best part of the video was the Hexproof rant
But to bolster MBT's point, basically all the French Vanilla keywords are easy to infer. What is first strike? Well they strike first. Trample? Well the trample over weak stuff. Indestructible? You get the idea.
Honestly Yugioh needs keywords. It would reduce text bloat and they wouldn't need to write "This card is unaffected by card effects" everytime or "Cannot be normal summoned."
The funny thing is that "indestructible" in MtG isn't even a keyword. It's not a game term that is a stand in for a mechanical description. It's actually just plain English, the same way "draw 2 cards" is. The creature is indestructible.
What do you MEAN literally EVERY deck is like this now a days. Thats just how yugioh functions lmao
These ones specifically were supposed to be cool and based, but in reality turned out worse than everything else.
TBF, Gren Maju started seeing success when Dim Fiss and Macro were at 1 and before Shifter even Existed. MBT even has a really great list on the Golden Castle of Stromberg variant, which is easily my favorite build of the deck because it just focusses entirely on getting those cards banished ASAP
Yeah, there isn't mcuh time to complain about the deck cause the match should be over quickly, win or lose.
@@toadfan64 activate desires, banish 10 for cost. CL2 Necroface eff, banish 5...CL3 necroface banish 5...Special summon Orochi, banish 8, CL2 Necroface Eff Banish 5 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm out of cards.
@@DarkAuraLord desires banish facedown no?
@@sadbear6301 No
Me loving Heraldic Beasts (was the first deck I got in paper that wasn't insanely budget and got me to pick up all the rank 4 toolbox staples at the time) but realizing that it's currently just "crooked cook with astral kuriboh under it turbo" the deck. In my defense however it's a graveyard strategy which haven't had the most fun time lately in paper or currently in MD
Talking about oddballs who has guts to play rare decks (Even if the strategy is performed better by others)... Respect
Here's an idea - play Time Thief Heraldic. It's basically their best variant solely due to Charged-Up Heraldry
Love to see someone playing unpopular decks and showing them love and others their potential even if they aren’t that good in general. For me I love playing pure predaplants.
@@Phyantis4293 I play a lot of off meta stuff. Like I still have stuff like Swordsoul, Branded, Spright, Etc. But i also have Heraldic beasts, Traptrix, Kozmo, Sharks, and a litany of other fun little side project decks that I like messing with.
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 I was thinking about that in MD. I opted not to though cause I have zero clue how time thief plays and I typically stay away from splashing stuff that I don't know how to play into my decks. Hence why I basically never play tri-brigade hybrid decks. Might check it out in the near future though since I need SOMETHING else to do during Tear format in MD.
I wish ancient gears got support that made their turn one not just sit on pseudo towers or set up howitzer for turn 3 resource gain. But I'd still rathet play againat them than anything else in the video.
Honestly, you had me at the first 6 words. My poor poor ancient gears...
They should probably do more stuff that defends/rewards them when you break their board. You know, like how they summon a big dude if you destroy that one card. Make it so that they can fight back like some kind of fortress deck.
What is worse: a deck that can attempt to otk you or a deck that plays like solitaire and makes the opponent not play the game?
@@Torchlava100 feast or famine decks are by far the worst. Those that either die to a single handtrap or put up 6 negates.
@@redpeng1124 You got your wish
"Wait, YuGiOh has been this mess of floodgates, negates and needlessly long combos since day 1?"
"Always has been."
what's the needlessly long combo deck of GOAT?
I love how every kind of these Videos skips mentions of Cyberdragons. A Deck that looks cool but cant do shit outside of its OTK Variants that are Mediocre at best. Yet at every local i have seen at least 5 players that promise this time they found a way to break the Code and will win for sure (Spoiler: they never did and never will). Usually the Cyber Dragon combos are quick to play but these players slow down considerably depending on Board State and going second staples they Drew.
For future reference, Rummage, Loot, and Impulse draw are short-hand used by the Magic community, not keywords. Rummage is from Rummaging Goblin which discards then draws, Loot is from Faithless Looting which draws then discards, and Impulse is from Act on Impulse which exiles(or banishes) cards from the top of your deck that you can play for a limited time (usually until the end of the turn).
Other way around: Rummage was an R&D term that escaped into the wild and became unofficial slang. Rummaging goblin was a nod to that.
Looting is also from Merfolk Looter not Faithless looting.
Impulse is neat because it actually means something different in R&D terms but has evolved into what it is now.
@@OriginalDad Thanks for the extra insight. My Magic knowledge doesn't go back that far (really been paying attention since Strixhaven, but I did play a little during M10), so I didn't know this.
The six sam part was so true normal summon Kageki into kagemusha. Than synchro into shi eh set backrow pass. Man that brings back fond memories.
Even when I spoke to Matt Bell when I was judging a YCS, he mentioned that a big problem with Pendulum is that they’re all one big archetype and every new card supports it.
I'm that guy that brings Umi control to locals.
Welcome to the Yu-Gi-Oh community, where whatever deck you use, whatever way you act, you're Hated for it unless you're needlessly the perfect human being who just so happens to be good and based at the game.
So basically a Buff super Saiyan GigaChad. Smells like Tide detergent. Uses Kashtira, and Has Butler levels of Manners/behavior.
Oh, and make sure you're rich.
I feel the Umi one. Mako's my favourite character and the Kairyushin effect is on theme for his first duel with Yugi. But a fast track TCBOO and sitting on Sea Stealth is just not engaging, and there are nearly no other ways to play the deck that are effective.
Saying YGO players are immune to understanding a second card game implies they even understand YGO to begin with, but we all know they can’t read
That last part 😂😂 I’m surprised people who play Yugioh haven’t dabbled into magic for a year or two. It’s fun, non power crept, and balanced for the most part. I used to go to locals and lose every game, then would win games, then matches, and lastly top. It was fun to see that Magic’s learning curve wasn’t as steep as Yugioh.
Mbt after a cut: This is a good one!
Dire in chat: READ THE FUCKING POST WE NEED 8 MINUTES
As someone who also plays MTG, albeit to a lesser degree, I love every time Joseph uses Magic terminology
Uhhh that does remind me of my Krawler deck. My opponents at locals were so annoyed. The first match I won in 5 minutes. 2 duels in 5 mins. But yeah that cards are strong. I flip them with pawns, and activate the effect. If my opponents decides to negate and destroy, banish or whatever I get 2 special summons for free. And if that happens, I have deus ex that just negates an effect when targetted face-down and negates all Monster effects when flipped open. + That subterror field spell just says that they cant be destroyed when face down and gain 1500 atk and def when flipped.
Oh, I love those moments when we remember that MBT actually stands for an old mtg modern deck haha
Mono-Blue Tron?
@@nicholasfarrell5981 yep
Funny that someone mentioned Timelords because they are decently popular in Duel Links right now.
when you have the ability to just play infinite light turn 2 the deck is actually solid.
They are decently popular in Master Duel right now too. I've played against maybe more Timelords than anything in the last week.
@@ubadman1 Is that based on a skill they got? I Know the big reason that Timelords struggle so much is that Empty and Infinite Machines are just really underwhelming and getting constantly outclassed by other generic level 10/Monarch support that's just better
@@minabasejderha5972 now for the real question: did you really play against timelords, or just sandaion with skill drain pass?
They're popular but they're still not good lmao
I feel like red eyes in duel links was pretty cool. They had a bunch of revives and a fusion with a negate (slash dragon).
I am so glad Ancient Gears made it to this list. As an Ancient Gear main, I approve of that description.
Seriously, stop letting Fortress activate if you have 2 or more negates, you’ll thank me next time you lose the die roll against these mechanical chads.
One day YuGiOh players will learn that Mill came from Magic, and that they do have the ability to understand other card game terms, but choose not to.
To be fair though mill is one of the things written on cards that I expect to have to explain and then hope they remember it’s meaning. Like excavate or how non targeting destruction works.
I wish mtg players would do this very thing instead of jacking off mtg like it’s some sage heaven of good game design.
Yu-Gi-Oh players and actually reading about stuff? You're hoping for too much there mate
God I wish we had magics hexproof, our version is dog water.
Mill, bounce, spin, pitch, dump, topdeck, staple, brick, scoop...
As soon as tier got to MD, I build it as fast as i could. And my first duel I bricked in way I though it couldnt happen, 5 shufflers on hand and the draw was the 6ht. I lost to a pure blue eyes deck without even summoning a single monster. I'm still scared to this very day.
The bit about GMDE makes me realize how different YGO and MTG are. YGO's lack of spell cost and degree of attribute miscibility mean that you *can* easily put a bunch of resource-denial pieces into your deck, whereas in MTG it's not as easy to do so. Sure, you *could* do that if you wanted to, but in MPH (my custom format where translated YGO cards are legal), the GMDE deck *is* the based Timmy deck MBT was describing. All I do when playing that deck is exile as many cards as possible and beat face. Fun times, both to play and play against. Was really fun to play it against Neo-Parshath.
I play a synchron deck shamelessly ripped from itachiygo on youtube whose objective is to set up 4 monster negates on board while drawing a fuckton more interruptions with g.g. (go next) hyper librarian so I'd imagine it's quite infuriating to play against
Well at least you witness Accel synchro
Looking at that last minute or so, and the latest Magical Hats, I'm wondering if we might see a return to Mono-Blue-Tron in the future, as opposed to the current Marincess-Blue-Tang.
While I think I'd welcome some different games from ygo on Joseph's channel, can you imagine the sheer and utter confusion people will feel when he realeases a video and suddenly monsters don't have orange borders anymore?
I think it's possible, but I think a lotta this is just Joseph having played it, and having good game knowledge of how MtG generally works as a result, and as shown at the end of this vid, a general frustration with how people are unaware of how MtG works or has solved some issues YGO has had, and a frustration with their lack of curiosity in others TCGs, esp when speaking abt game design issues (e.g. rotation), which other TCGs are especially illuminating on.
@@desreploid3353 I think they'll get over it when they learn that they don't have to read as much, and get to just look at all the pretty colors.
Ancient Gears have been my pet deck for years, alongside Cydras. I love OTK decks so much, but that doesn’t mean I don’t understand how irritating it can be to get OTK’ed. Also, you couldn’t pay me enough money to play howitzer+floodgate.
To be fair for red eyes if you let them summon archfiend twice you were kinda asking for it
"just draw the out" - the above comment
I am again convinced none of y'all actually enjoy Yu Gi Oh when you aren't winning.
As a gren maju player.... I would be lying if I didn't refer to my deck as, "No one else is allowed to have fun, but me."
At least you're honest 😂
@@REvoLverj98 But honestly I like it because I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh like I used to, I'm not keeping up with all types of decks that there are, which means I'm not purchasing cards all the time. I just like having a deck that if I don't play for like 6 months I can easily go back into. Because at the end of the day the only things that change are the stall cards and draw power cards. If I'm lucky there will be some type of new card that removes a lot of cards from play. I also like the fact that it's a deck despite the fact it has no actual support that is connected to gren maju It's all support just by chance Which means things can be interchangeable depending on what deck you're going up against. Like don't get me wrong if Konami was willing to make actual Gren Maju support I would be all for it so it actually becomes a real archetype, You know give me a reason not to play Dyna, Broader, super poly, etc. But I doubt that would ever happen, but even if it did something would have to be really good for me not to use D Fissure and Cosmos 😂.
Always love hearing Surge of Power in the background. Battle Network music goes hard.
I should have posted this on twitter but for me it's Synchron. I'm a huge Yusei Stan and even I can't stomach playing Synchrons for more than a second. Even all the replays on youtube use "Clear Mind" to get my nostalgia going but I always sit there thinking, "Yeah remember that episode where Yusei solitaire'd for 35 minutes and ended on 4-6 negates? Me either" The deck is either: combo for 35 minutes to an unbreakable board or lose to Imperm on your Junk Synchron.
I love Galaxy-Eyes, but it REALLY wants to make Prime Photon and OTK. Lots of interesting cards and support, and Cipher Dragon's yoink is hilarious if you force yourself to use it instead of winning the game.
Tbf with how many busted xyz monsters there are and Cipher Dragon X, at least the yoink effect can get you a strong monster and stop your opponent from using their most busted monsters after they burned through their resources. It's how I can still throw down with Spright using my GEPD deck.
I miss when in the gouki mirror we wouldn't even play the game just compare hands and decide who would win
4:25 I have no clue why, but I lost my mind laughing at the tomato
Dark magician not because it’s any good.
Because it has so much freaking support that everyone I swear, has a dark magician deck.
And yeah, let’s just give them a spell flash trap that prevents them from getting affected by anything, except if you blow up the stupid card, in which case everything else gets blown up
Also, appreciate the dragon ball music
Nothing like a new Midnight MBT.
thanks dire for getting this out in like 3 hours
In my defense as a Six Samurai player since Dragon Ruler Era, I couldnt afford the synchro varient. I had me 3 copies of the Six Sam structure, and 1 synchro starter structure. And I blended those things together with a bunch of commons at my local shop you could get 20 for $1. I would hard go second and OTK with The A. Forces boosting my board by 1k a monster, then side going second with all the trap holes and rivalrys I could. Simple, yet, effective.
What about a video about decks you DO enjoy playing against?
Pure Kaijus
Those don't exist
Surprised one of my all time favorites isn't on this list. Look I love PSY-Frames, Psychics are my favorite type and Omega is one of the coolest monsters ever. But I can't deny that all the deck does is bleeding you dry with hand traps and quick synchros untill they win or they fail to get to circuit and lose.
Surge of Power in the background is a 10/10 , great job Dire
Dude, I remember in MD I had a duel against Timelords vs Sacred Beasts. Since the trap only negates activated effects they still had all their inherent protection, and each time I was able to out one and chip away at his LP he just summoned the next. We both nearly decked out and I legitimately won with fucking armityle of all things with like 2 cards each in our decks.
On the note of Umi control with that stupid Kaiyru shein. I was on a tear at a regional with tear (preishizu and rukcal) and I got hit with 2 people in a row playing that deck. Wanted to scream my head off as I later had to drop due to that double loss leading to a chain of losses.
I don't need to take Ancient Gear hate from the ygo youtube community's version of the Nostalgia Critic
So many legacy supports end up being floodgates or bricky FTKs because Konami keeps printing them in a way that requires you to run the shitty old card
I was the Blackwing poster but also that post can apply to Raidraptor. Once they printed actually good RRs and RUM cards, people realized you can use them with blackwings to kali yuga turbo
Holy shit, that intro hit me with nostalgia. Used to watch the Buu arc all the time.
As a Red-Eyes fan... he's not wrong...
As a fellow Red-Eyes fan... he's absolutely right
If only konami made up their minds on what to do with our precious red eyes. They really should just make the archetype focus on consistent revival and burn damage since that's what it does the best.
Come on now... Ancient Gear hate. They're so harmless. Until they get support that lets them turbo out Chaos Giant then maybe I would understand.
Chat being Magicproof at the end was a nice thing to include. xd
Mayakashi. It’s only viable win conditions are a summon lock with Give and Take or the Ghost Meets Girl trap, and a mill ftk before tearlaments came around.
I've been trying to make kairyu-shin more exciting. Playing umi combo instead of umi control with things like electric jellyfish summoning coelacanth and using magelanicca instead of ALO. Is pure ass, but the most fun version of that deck I've made lol
I once almost won my locals with yosenju timelord
I'd like to see the opposite of this. Fan favourite decks that are actually really fun and skillful but perhaps aren't as well supported as they need to be to be competitive. Galaxy-Eyes is absolutely in this category. It has no native floodgates, skillful combo paths, important decision making, and access to some of the most powerful rank4/8 monsters in the game AND a counter trap that is arguably the most powerful card ever printed. The deck just needs a good starter and a handtrap to search off of Photon Lord and it's Gucci.
I like how MegaMan battle network music is in the vid because of the collection release lol
As an alcoholic Dino player these videos every Tuesday are the only thing I look forward to every week
And i wonder why no one meantioned you people
Literally all Dino does is ftk
Plus 2 rank 4 negates and apo
@@idosarts_and_krafts it’s ok the next like 3-4 sets are giving us more support, but too much that we won’t know what our deck is anymore
@@Beachfiend_ as an earth machine player i can very much say *i know*
( Like thank god the tins for *possible* cheap regulus, like how am i supposed to get 3 when it's 30$ a piece?)
@@idosarts_and_krafts MBT didn’t mention DINO but someone else did at 8:20
@@Beachfiend_ huh
How did i not see that?........ How did *you* not see that?
Also wtf even is that wording
I mean, I’ve unironically played Timelords, they’re absolutely garbage, and the deck was basically “Mystic Mine Burn without Mystic Mine”.
It’s telling when a deck s actually improved by adding Mine.
The hexproof bit at the end was great
I think what i loved about the yugi boomer era of yu gi oh is that the internet was much less of a thing. You'd go to play a game and see the weirdest rogue decks ever, there was a lot less of a defined meta in the mid to low tier of the game. Sure the odd high end player would have a crazy yata lock but it was rare. These days i load up duel links and see the same 3 or 4 decks with the same cards over and over and over again.
I always hate playing Dinos the deck boils down to Ultimate Conductor Tyranno turbo like I have to watch a 10 minute combo so you can end on a book of moon and maybe a monster negate.
Yeah, the deck has the same 3 plays and I've never seen a single dino player brick once
Recently hit Diamond 1 with Toons in MD.
I feel like people were disappointed when they saw my list and realized its just a deck that puts a 3K body on board under TCBOO/Kaiser Colosseum with 1 Omni Negate in the back row. List in comments. But what did you expect? PURE Toons without staples to be competitive? cope
TRUEEEE
Love the MMBM music that’s playing in the background, great taste
Lmfao I was playing mtg arena while watching this the ending killed me
As a DM player, that DM one is 100% accurate
While I can totally understand yugiboomer hate and where it comes from, if one or two cards completely make your deck obsolete, I’d argue that doesn’t make it a good deck? Like, hear me out: most modern archetypes basically boil down to either who goes first, or who draws/pilots better. It’s mostly just like two ships in the night trying to just execute their own combos and not interacting with the other deck until they play into a negate of some sort.
That’s not really all that fun to watch (because you spend most of your time watching duels you’re in because of combo lengths). So, if a single skill drain or floodgate somehow destroys your whole deck, literally how is that any different than modern archetypes? You just do what they spend five minutes to do, but in a single card. At least you’re not keeping them hostage while you do it. And it’s not as though all those long combos are the result of skill, it’s usually just “search x and add to hand/summon” and then effects that are “if x, then y” your way to a board of as many Omninegates as you can play.
How is that any different than the yugiboomers who at least respect your time and say “I activate soul drain, and chain skill drain”?
One of my favroite dire edit intros
Look: say what you want, but Blue-Eyes Jet Dragon + Dictator of D interaction is just really funny
MBT tries to clown on oldschool cards
2:07
no it's actually just some mbt fan who can't read, attacking into DM dragon knight under piercing the darkness multiple times. 🤣
I can tell, it's literally me.
yet he cries more and more about maxx c 🤣