Now that I'm watching more Brawl, to be completely honest, it's not that bad. I just wish they was a bit more character variety, but Meta Knight is too good to let go
Allmywhat I'm all for unique strings and tactics, plus your comment about Smash 4 is very true, but can be said about every other game in the series. However, I always felt like Brawl had this atmosphere where even though Meta Knight dominated the meta, some characters felt very undiscovered in potential
Allmywhat There's character uniqueness in every game. America is mostly a tier whore territory and Japan is similar to Brawl, but other countries barely use any top tier characters, mostly bottom high, mid, and low tier characters like Pit, Dr.Mario, and even Samus. Plus, every games has people who fishes for grabs.
MagiKooper I don't think so. I feel like in Smash 4 they really dumbed down the uniqueness for the sake of trying to balance the game. The only unique character is Rosalina from what I can see. But they all play the same in general mostly because shields are so strong in the game. The best characters are characters with a fast grab and flowchart combos out of grab. It completely defines Smash 4 and takes away from diversity.
Allmywhat That's strange. In my opinion, there's many unique characters in Smash 4 that just have untapped potential such as Robin, Shulk, Olimar, Peach, and hell even Little Mac. America's mentality is slightly tier whorish, you never see characters like Lucina or Dr. Mario (I play both, by the way) breaking top 8 at a national and even if you did, there's a small chance that the person will play them again. Smash 4 is a 12 month game, it took years for Melee to perfect its' uniqueness. Give it time. P.S. Even if Rosalina is the most unique, her play is lame as hell. :P
Hub Hikari Smash 4 is the slowest Smash game and people are refusing to admit it. I'm still counting the months since release until the Brawl hate subsides and they see S4 for what it is.
+Allmywhat It's probably because of the character speed and moveset changes and tripping. Personally, I like Brawl a little bit more (besides the fact that I've never lost to an actual person) because the controls felt better for me and my mains were all nerfed/removed (Marth, Fox, Ice Climbers) EDIT: I just watched a Smash 4 match and it's still pretty fast, in fact closer to Melee than Brawl was and the first change I noticed when I got Smash 4 was you can't instantly shield while dashing.
Akuma /ambrose luseni Smash 4 has the slowest attack speed too. The only thing it has faster than Brawl is running speed and (most) falling speed. Everyone hates tripping lol. I want to see MK banned and tripping removed if they want Brawl tournies. But that's just me. I don't know about controls, but I dislike how they removed so much AT's that were in Brawl. I mained Pikachu and the removal of quick attack canceling really made me sad.
***** No. You should DEFINITELY be pushed back for defending. That's basic fighting game balance. When you're forced to block you should be hurt. This encourages the game to be more fast paced, giving the aggressor an advantage. You should NOT have more options than your opponent for them attacking you. That discourages people from playing the game. It discourages offensive play. You have it all backwards. Smash 4 having such strong shields is what makes the game so incredibly slow and grab oriented.
Smash 4 is a faster paced game than brawl and is more balanced with better graphics. It had a bigger competitive scene than brawl when it first came out. It's better than brawl in many ways, technically calling sm4sh garbage is calling brawl shit.
+Tetra in Smash 4 thunder has more option coverage/uses in a trade off for raw kill power. You can use it to combo break you can use it to spike people it spikes into it self its frame data is hella wack. I like it more in brawl but its uses in smash4 are rather good
hell-dew Well yeah, I know it's good, but to me it's so, so much better in Brawl. Maybe it's just a matter of finding it more fun to use, I don't know. ESAM if you're around, I'm still curious.
Never played this game competitively, only started doing that when I got PM. Only reason I'd come back to this game is for Snake. We need Snake in sm4sh. Anyone thinking of a possibility of Snake joining sm4sh for DLC since Kojima is leaving Kanomi after mgsv?
***** Yeah Brawl is awesome! I feel like it's meta isn't completely developed, so it would be awesome to see some of those low tiers with potential surface :)
+Yoshiyo T. it actually was there. i even know lot of professional low-tier mains beating toughest meta knight players. one ganon main actually WON a national tournament using only ganondorf for example. u wont see those people anymore because they quit brawl and moved onto smash 4..... ull see more of those overused characters more than ever
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What? A Brawl Video where the Comments are COMPLIMENTING BRAWL?
This is not the same Earth...
Tristan99508 that's the Pikachu effect. (Sorry for late reply)
Watching the Brawl stream actually got pretty hype. These were some good matches.
Now that I'm watching more Brawl, to be completely honest, it's not that bad. I just wish they was a bit more character variety, but Meta Knight is too good to let go
MagiKooper At least it isn't Smash 4 where every character just fishes for grabs. I'd rather have uniqueness over character quantity.
Allmywhat I'm all for unique strings and tactics, plus your comment about Smash 4 is very true, but can be said about every other game in the series. However, I always felt like Brawl had this atmosphere where even though Meta Knight dominated the meta, some characters felt very undiscovered in potential
Allmywhat There's character uniqueness in every game. America is mostly a tier whore territory and Japan is similar to Brawl, but other countries barely use any top tier characters, mostly bottom high, mid, and low tier characters like Pit, Dr.Mario, and even Samus. Plus, every games has people who fishes for grabs.
MagiKooper I don't think so. I feel like in Smash 4 they really dumbed down the uniqueness for the sake of trying to balance the game. The only unique character is Rosalina from what I can see. But they all play the same in general mostly because shields are so strong in the game.
The best characters are characters with a fast grab and flowchart combos out of grab. It completely defines Smash 4 and takes away from diversity.
Allmywhat That's strange. In my opinion, there's many unique characters in Smash 4 that just have untapped potential such as Robin, Shulk, Olimar, Peach, and hell even Little Mac. America's mentality is slightly tier whorish, you never see characters like Lucina or Dr. Mario (I play both, by the way) breaking top 8 at a national and even if you did, there's a small chance that the person will play them again. Smash 4 is a 12 month game, it took years for Melee to perfect its' uniqueness. Give it time. P.S. Even if Rosalina is the most unique, her play is lame as hell. :P
As much as I love Smash 4, seeing Brawl is refreshing if you ask me.
Hub Hikari I fucking love me some Brawl
Hub Hikari Smash 4 is the slowest Smash game and people are refusing to admit it. I'm still counting the months since release until the Brawl hate subsides and they see S4 for what it is.
+Allmywhat It's probably because of the character speed and moveset changes and tripping. Personally, I like Brawl a little bit more (besides the fact that I've never lost to an actual person) because the controls felt better for me and my mains were all nerfed/removed (Marth, Fox, Ice Climbers)
EDIT: I just watched a Smash 4 match and it's still pretty fast, in fact closer to Melee than Brawl was and the first change I noticed when I got Smash 4 was you can't instantly shield while dashing.
Akuma /ambrose luseni Smash 4 has the slowest attack speed too. The only thing it has faster than Brawl is running speed and (most) falling speed.
Everyone hates tripping lol. I want to see MK banned and tripping removed if they want Brawl tournies. But that's just me.
I don't know about controls, but I dislike how they removed so much AT's that were in Brawl. I mained Pikachu and the removal of quick attack canceling really made me sad.
Brawl was only hated because of MK
I just wish Snake would return to smash 4...
Yeah, and Wolf
There is the possibility of Snake being confirmed for Smash on the Phantom Pain's release.
Mada Yes please, Snake and Wolf back in smash 4 would be great.
Mada And I wish Rayman would enter Smash4 already. Why does he have a trophy??
We need snake back ;-; . It will be so cool revealing him and he in a cardboard box and said "kept you waiting, huh?"
This exact battle just got remastered
No way where is the video
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A Brawl match without Meta Knight or Icies is so interesting to watch!
Touche.
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"That's something we're not seeing in Smash 4, that shield pushback"
Shots fired
Why do u comment to every comment involving sm4sh and brawl bashing smash 4?
***** No. You should DEFINITELY be pushed back for defending. That's basic fighting game balance. When you're forced to block you should be hurt. This encourages the game to be more fast paced, giving the aggressor an advantage.
You should NOT have more options than your opponent for them attacking you. That discourages people from playing the game. It discourages offensive play.
You have it all backwards. Smash 4 having such strong shields is what makes the game so incredibly slow and grab oriented.
***** You literally just said you should be able to punish people for playing the game I'm honestly bewildered.
Matthew Taylor Some people have to tear down that garbage game for what it is. Otherwise the sheeple will just move with the crowd.
Smash 4 is a faster paced game than brawl and is more balanced with better graphics. It had a bigger competitive scene than brawl when it first came out. It's better than brawl in many ways, technically calling sm4sh garbage is calling brawl shit.
I heard bad things about Brawl competitive, but this doesn't seem that bad. Kinda reminds me of Street Fighter.
weegeeman2000 That’s because this is one of the only actual fun battles in Brawl, majority of Brawl is just Meta Knights
(Learning about the up tilt hitbox)
WTF is this shit LOL
Forgot how much better Thunder was in this game
Mayowa Are I prefer thunder in smash4, honestly.
imESAM Really? Why is that, I'm really curious. :o
+Tetra in Smash 4 thunder has more option coverage/uses in a trade off for raw kill power. You can use it to combo break you can use it to spike people it spikes into it self its frame data is hella wack. I like it more in brawl but its uses in smash4 are rather good
hell-dew Well yeah, I know it's good, but to me it's so, so much better in Brawl. Maybe it's just a matter of finding it more fun to use, I don't know.
ESAM if you're around, I'm still curious.
Tetra
*Legend has it, he’s still curious.*
Who are the commentators?
Never played this game competitively, only started doing that when I got PM. Only reason I'd come back to this game is for Snake. We need Snake in sm4sh.
Anyone thinking of a possibility of Snake joining sm4sh for DLC since Kojima is leaving Kanomi after mgsv?
+CJ14r43 He's not coming back in Sm4sh!!!!! :(
I'm certain you know he is officially back
I hope Brawl makes a comeback.
***** Why do you want OP meta knight and ice-climbers back!? you monster ;-;I do miss the Ice-climbes though.
***** I'm with you on this one! Brawl was such fun
***** Yeah Brawl is awesome! I feel like it's meta isn't completely developed, so it would be awesome to see some of those low tiers with potential surface :)
+Yoshiyo T. it actually was there. i even know lot of professional low-tier mains beating toughest meta knight players. one ganon main actually WON a national tournament using only ganondorf for example.
u wont see those people anymore because they quit brawl and moved onto smash 4.....
ull see more of those overused characters more than ever
presidentevil It's too bad... I wish
Brawl still had a competitive scene... :(
I HAVE THIS!
Again RUclips 2019 why
Oh boy américa and european versions of brawl are so diffrents that i thank it was project M
LMAO
***** How different pikachu is in smash4 and how snake isnt in smahs 4
why you thought i was gonna bad talk brawl? lmfao
First View!
Tyler Dunn Cool!