This was exactly the video I was looking for! Every other video is about doing a normal clutch play adjustment. I couldn't find the right shims though, so I ended up just very carefully squishing the bracket with a pair of vise grips and a rag protecting the metal. This seemed to work ok, too. You have to make sure there's a balance between binding the clutch and a very small amount of up and down movement.
I had a similar problem with my 1975 Norton Commando. I used a feeler gauge until I found the right thickness to take out the wobble, sacrificed a small portion of that gauge, drilled it out to accept the bolt and done. Thanks for the idea.
Shudda used a feeler gauge to assess the shim thickness required. If the feeler gauge indicates .5mm go with a .4. Don't want to be TOO tight. Don't forget to put some grease on the pivot. Yes, McMaster-Carr is one helluva company! They have a vast level of supplies.
i was inspired to fix my wobbly clutch after watching this but i was too impatient to wait for washers so i took of the receiver and put it in the bench vice, gave it tiny pinch and the wobble is gone. nice video!
Another useful and understandable workshop video, thank you! For me, also the driver's seat has a 'backslash' and a noticeable but tiny movement for the passenger's seat. I'm glad to see solutions to the problems I am also facing.
definitely not a stupid mod! it's stupid we have to do this mod lol my clutch wobble is so bad, especially at lower gears... the rattle of the wobble is louder than the bike, at times.
not a stupid mod... after months of searching for an answer to keep my 07 fully oem, i thought i had to go to aftermarket levers until i found this. thank you!!
I was just doing the same today but my washer was a bit thick so I couldn’t, but now I’m gonna sand the washer and try again. At least now I know it works.
Mine are stock. After riding a Harley Breakout with precision feeling ball bearing levers I realized how crappy mine felt. They have always been that way. Loose tolerances allowed from the factory. A cheap brake lever and mount. They work but they are def cheap.
Hey! I have the same problem on my Honda Shadow. I couldn't tell, did you put a light layer of grease onto the shims? My thought is grease is needed so the clutch lever moves freely
Great vid. I had a similar problem with mine. The friction eventually over time shredded my cable through that side to side/up and down movement. It seemed to be bent very slightly it's so solid I couldn't have got it in a vice I wrapped some tape round the piece the screw goes shredded in minutes. Even making a washer out of a credit card. Eventually I had to change the clutch lever and mount's completely. Even then sent the wrong cable. I will get some of those. Even if not perfect at least it's much better.
Hopefully you are still active. I need to do this on my bike but the shims you linked to come up as stainless steel. I cant seem to find brass ring shims on their site. Did you end up using stainless? Thanks much!
I’m here! I just searched for brass shims on the McMaster sitevand I found a page of shims. On the left you can select brass. I’ll have to update the link soon. I’m traveling right now but will update it when I can. Thank you for the heads up.
@@sstressfl Aahh finally found them! Turns out the site is much easier to navigate on a computer than phone. My specific bike looks like it needed a little bigger od and like .02 or .03 in total shimming so I went with the .01 beass 3/8" shims. Fingers crossed!
i just got my first bike a couple days ago, it’s a 2011 honda cbr250r. my clutch is wobbling up and down like the one in the video. this may be a dumb question but i’m new to the motorcycle lifestyle and i don’t want to mess anything up. i noticed there’s a lot of area between the connector of the clutch and the bolt, does this mean i’m completely missing a shim and need one? any help would be nice, thank you
Congrats on your first bike! Help me understand a little better… do you mean the clutch lever is loose like in the video and you can visually see a gap like your missing a factory shim?
@@sstressfl yes, that’s what i mean. i’m not the best with explaining :,) there is a gap and the entire clutch will move up and down on the bolt. does this mean i should order a shim? it didn’t come with one so i’m assuming when the guy before me replaced the clutches, he didn’t replace the shim
@@KayleeB-xd1yh Typically when you replace a clutch you don't need to do anything with the lever, but because its a 2011, its possible the lever is simply worn and needs fresh shims to tighten it up. Sounds like this solution could work for you. But maybe it would be so much better to buy new levers! Just make sure you look for good quality, good reviews. Also joining a Facebook Group of people with your same bike will help! You can get good advice from others who have gone before you :)
Just fitted aftermarket levers to my Rebel and while the brake is fine the clutch side is really sloppy, I will be messing with some shims until it feels right to me.
8 months later, do the washer seem to be holding up still? Is play increasing at all? I purchased a brand new bike and the clutch lever is all over the place, both vertically and horizontally. I think some play is safe, but I just wanted to know how it's been so far. Thanks for the video!
@@sstressflI have only used it a little but it seems to work well. The only thing is that I over-tighten the screw with the washer on it, the clutch lever doesn't return fully in place...maybe it wouldn't happen by putting the washer in the middle or have you had the same problem? Thank you very much
@@simoneconigliaro1396 Ive had no problems since doing this. Its important to not take up too much of the play. Mine has the tiniest bit of movement still. I wanted to make sure it would never bind up.
If you mean the handle wiggles up and down it just means there is too much tolerance between the lever and the perch mount. Some play is needed or it would bind. Most of the time it’s just a cheap lever manufactured with a lot of slop. The Harley I rode had a ball bearing pivot point and it was luxurious precision 😎
bought a 2008 R6 and clutch slipped after a couple days, kept slipping after shifting a few times. Was eccentric to realize was just the EXTREME lever play xD
Uhhhg! Inspect it closely. If its bent bad you should replace it. Aluminum does not like to bend then bend back. It makes it vulnerable to breaking. But, if it simply pivoted you can loosen the mount bolt/clamp and adjust it back to the correct angle. If it's floppy loose up and down, you probably stretched out the mount. Youl could try to squeeze it tight, but then again you're risking a possible crack in the aluminum. It'll have to be your judgement call based on what it looks like. Any concerns, you should replace.
Quick question my clutch lever is like loose so when I put it in 1rst gear The bike moves a bit but when I tighten it I loose so much power in the engine I have a rmz450
Wait a minute... the wobbly lever is different than clutch engagement. Thats a completely different thing. If your bike is stalling when you have your clutch lever pulled all the way in, it means you need to tighten up your clutch cable.
Hey Michael! How are the washers holding up? Any binding or anything like it so far? I got the exact same problem on my FZ6, probably worth giving this a try.
Hey Tiago! It has been flawless. No bindings. Just smooth operation. I suspect it'll be just fine for years to come. Eventually I might buy new mounts and levers, but at least this took away the urgency and I saved my money :)
Sorry about that. I intended brass. But they are stainless. I was in the brass section, changed the size and it matched me with stainless steel. They are flawless, smooth, strong and have been working well since I made the video.
@@sstressflI have my r6 on a lift but as I pop it into first the rear tire moves without me releasing the clutch at all . As well as the second gear looking the same .
@@matrixskater3674 When the rear tire is in the air its normal to have a little spin. So if you dont feel it tugging when youre on the ground you dont have to worry about it. Also, you should have about half lever release before you feel the clutch engage.
@@HustleHabit I was surprised how silky perfect the Harley handles were. Made me envious. Its a minor thing but you'll appreciate the more precise feedback.
That makes no sense lol it should have a tiny bit of play but not way crazy loose. Like I said in the video, I rode a Harley and the levers were so precise! Made my bike feel like garbage. I took most of the play out and they feel amazing now 👍
My 2021 doesn't have hazards but it looks as though I see that red hazard switch on yours.. I'm jealous. I was told that only the European models come with the hazards
It usually comes that way from the factory.... i didnt notice until I rode a Halrey Davidson Breakout ($20,000 bike) and its levers were precision dreamy silky smooth with no wobble of any kind. Then I got on my bike and it felt like wobbly cheap garbage :)
The other day I tried to ride my Harley Dyna without earplugs and without my full face helmet. I found out that my clutch lever rattles and I can hear it over the sound of the bike. The solution? Just don't ride without earplugs LOL.
@@sstressfl it's a 1988 but it was a police bike before then someone tried to make a horrible rat bike I stripped it of its "add ons" then added a new head light and turn signals I might get you handle switches too. But yah a work in progress
@@mariof3823 always amazes me how expensive those "little" things can be. Adds up quick! Great platform. Hope you can bring it back to something you enjoy to ride.
This was exactly the video I was looking for! Every other video is about doing a normal clutch play adjustment. I couldn't find the right shims though, so I ended up just very carefully squishing the bracket with a pair of vise grips and a rag protecting the metal. This seemed to work ok, too. You have to make sure there's a balance between binding the clutch and a very small amount of up and down movement.
damn you are underrated,
the video quality,
the way you speak,
everything is top level
Thank you my friend 🙏 That’s very encouraging 👊😎
Finally someone who has what I’m looking for THANK YOU
Awesome! Glad it helped!
I had a similar problem with my 1975 Norton Commando. I used a feeler gauge until I found the right thickness to take out the wobble, sacrificed a small portion of that gauge, drilled it out to accept the bolt and done. Thanks for the idea.
It def makes a cheap lever feel more like …. a much better quality lever 🙌 1975 Norton!! Fantastic 👍👍👍
Shudda used a feeler gauge to assess the shim thickness required. If the feeler gauge indicates .5mm go with a .4. Don't want to be TOO tight. Don't forget to put some grease on the pivot. Yes, McMaster-Carr is one helluva company! They have a vast level of supplies.
i was inspired to fix my wobbly clutch after watching this but i was too impatient to wait for washers so i took of the receiver and put it in the bench vice, gave it tiny pinch and the wobble is gone. nice video!
Sweet!!! I was so afraid I'd crack the aluminum! All good?
@@sstressfl that is a valid concern! I was worried about the same thing but i took it very very slow and checked the fit along the way.
@@danlefe I’m glad it worked out 💪 Let me know how it holds up!
Another useful and understandable workshop video, thank you! For me, also the driver's seat has a 'backslash' and a noticeable but tiny movement for the passenger's seat. I'm glad to see solutions to the problems I am also facing.
Thank you! Does your seat move around when you're sitting on it?
@@sstressfl no, only when i sit down. It's annoying.
@@laszloaffentaller351 mine moves when I'm not sitting on it. As soon as I sit down I don't feel it. I'm sure there must be a way to tighten it up.
This is exactly the video I was looking for, had the same problem on my Honda!
Glad it helped! :)
definitely not a stupid mod! it's stupid we have to do this mod lol my clutch wobble is so bad, especially at lower gears... the rattle of the wobble is louder than the bike, at times.
My 2007 BMW has this. I just ordered new levers because someone cut them short in the past. if the replacement doesnt work this is my go to 👌🏻
I think as well lubricants with grease good idea as suggested in previous comments. No point all the time keep buying the whole handle. Well done.
Thank you 🙏
not a stupid mod... after months of searching for an answer to keep my 07 fully oem, i thought i had to go to aftermarket levers until i found this. thank you!!
After doing this I have lost all thoughts of new levers. It worked well 👍 thank you for the feedback 🙏
some alfoil folded up on both sides of the screw, pop a hole through with screwdriver,,like new again
@@simby787 Folded up is the problem. You do not want something that soft. Stainless steel or brass washers are the way to go.
@@sstressfl meh works for me
I was just doing the same today but my washer was a bit thick so I couldn’t, but now I’m gonna sand the washer and try again. At least now I know it works.
I dont really think about it too much anymore, but when I do its so nice that its not floppy. Simple good fix.
My question is how does this happen? I bought a r6 and it has this same issue. Although my has some chepa aftermarket levers. Yours look stock
Mine are stock. After riding a Harley Breakout with precision feeling ball bearing levers I realized how crappy mine felt. They have always been that way. Loose tolerances allowed from the factory. A cheap brake lever and mount. They work but they are def cheap.
You are amazing Michael. Today I noticed that my clutch lever is very wiggle on my GSXS750 2018...
Thanks to you I fixed my wiggle Clutch Lever
Hey! I have the same problem on my Honda Shadow. I couldn't tell, did you put a light layer of grease onto the shims? My thought is grease is needed so the clutch lever moves freely
Great vid. I had a similar problem with mine. The friction eventually over time shredded my cable through that side to side/up and down movement. It seemed to be bent very slightly it's so solid I couldn't have got it in a vice I wrapped some tape round the piece the screw goes shredded in minutes. Even making a washer out of a credit card. Eventually I had to change the clutch lever and mount's completely. Even then sent the wrong cable. I will get some of those. Even if not perfect at least it's much better.
Nothing beats a true high quality mount and lever, but that’s what I was shooting for…. better :) Hope it fixes yours🙏
I installed Pazzo Racing levers on my gsx-s 750 2016 and my clutch levers is still wobling. I will definitely do this mods this summer !!
I think the real fix would require buying new higher quality lever perches. But this worked well for me for now and was much more affordable.
Hopefully you are still active. I need to do this on my bike but the shims you linked to come up as stainless steel. I cant seem to find brass ring shims on their site. Did you end up using stainless?
Thanks much!
I’m here! I just searched for brass shims on the McMaster sitevand I found a page of shims. On the left you can select brass. I’ll have to update the link soon. I’m traveling right now but will update it when I can. Thank you for the heads up.
@@sstressfl Aahh finally found them! Turns out the site is much easier to navigate on a computer than phone. My specific bike looks like it needed a little bigger od and like .02 or .03 in total shimming so I went with the .01 beass 3/8" shims. Fingers crossed!
i just got my first bike a couple days ago, it’s a 2011 honda cbr250r. my clutch is wobbling up and down like the one in the video. this may be a dumb question but i’m new to the motorcycle lifestyle and i don’t want to mess anything up. i noticed there’s a lot of area between the connector of the clutch and the bolt, does this mean i’m completely missing a shim and need one? any help would be nice, thank you
Congrats on your first bike! Help me understand a little better… do you mean the clutch lever is loose like in the video and you can visually see a gap like your missing a factory shim?
@@sstressfl yes, that’s what i mean. i’m not the best with explaining :,) there is a gap and the entire clutch will move up and down on the bolt. does this mean i should order a shim? it didn’t come with one so i’m assuming when the guy before me replaced the clutches, he didn’t replace the shim
@@KayleeB-xd1yh Typically when you replace a clutch you don't need to do anything with the lever, but because its a 2011, its possible the lever is simply worn and needs fresh shims to tighten it up. Sounds like this solution could work for you. But maybe it would be so much better to buy new levers! Just make sure you look for good quality, good reviews. Also joining a Facebook Group of people with your same bike will help! You can get good advice from others who have gone before you :)
Just fitted aftermarket levers to my Rebel and while the brake is fine the clutch side is really sloppy, I will be messing with some shims until it feels right to me.
Sloppy levers make the bike feel cheap. Its worth the effort :)
8 months later, do the washer seem to be holding up still? Is play increasing at all? I purchased a brand new bike and the clutch lever is all over the place, both vertically and horizontally. I think some play is safe, but I just wanted to know how it's been so far. Thanks for the video!
It feels like it loosened up the tiniest bit initially but it hasn't moved since "break in". Feels great and it's no longer annoying :)
I put the washer on top and not in the middle or underneath. The problem seems to have been solved! Do you think I should put it in the middle?
As long as the excessive wobble is gone and the lever is free from obstruction, you did good 👍
@@sstressflI have only used it a little but it seems to work well. The only thing is that I over-tighten the screw with the washer on it, the clutch lever doesn't return fully in place...maybe it wouldn't happen by putting the washer in the middle or have you had the same problem? Thank you very much
@@simoneconigliaro1396 Ive had no problems since doing this. Its important to not take up too much of the play. Mine has the tiniest bit of movement still. I wanted to make sure it would never bind up.
My 06' Classic Kawasaki Vulcan has a wiggle clutch. Would you happen to know what causes this?
If you mean the handle wiggles up and down it just means there is too much tolerance between the lever and the perch mount. Some play is needed or it would bind. Most of the time it’s just a cheap lever manufactured with a lot of slop. The Harley I rode had a ball bearing pivot point and it was luxurious precision 😎
I have the same problem with a 2nd hand scooter I just bought. Going to the mechanic because I don't know how to disassemble lol
They should make that part of the lever adjustable, maybe even bearings in there. Mine is all over the place and has too much friction.
Definitely a lot of room for improvement. I imagine it’s all about price point.
I don't like bikes that much but the one you have it's really nice
Thank you for the information 👉👍🏼
Thank you!
bought a 2008 R6 and clutch slipped after a couple days, kept slipping after shifting a few times. Was eccentric to realize was just the EXTREME lever play xD
I put down my bike now my clutch feels like it is down to far and I wobbles up and down
Uhhhg! Inspect it closely. If its bent bad you should replace it. Aluminum does not like to bend then bend back. It makes it vulnerable to breaking. But, if it simply pivoted you can loosen the mount bolt/clamp and adjust it back to the correct angle. If it's floppy loose up and down, you probably stretched out the mount. Youl could try to squeeze it tight, but then again you're risking a possible crack in the aluminum. It'll have to be your judgement call based on what it looks like. Any concerns, you should replace.
Quick question my clutch lever is like loose so when I put it in 1rst gear The bike moves a bit but when I tighten it I loose so much power in the engine I have a rmz450
Hmmm…. Have you tried following the clutch adjustment process? Proper tolerance set up?
Thank you for this, been wondering how to fix it up as I won’t go on the bike because of it stalling whenever I stop.
Wait a minute... the wobbly lever is different than clutch engagement. Thats a completely different thing. If your bike is stalling when you have your clutch lever pulled all the way in, it means you need to tighten up your clutch cable.
Kool Beans...haven't heard that in a long time.
I enjoy the nostalgia of outdated speech. It's not a day until someone in our family says "no one says that anymore" :)
Hey Michael!
How are the washers holding up? Any binding or anything like it so far?
I got the exact same problem on my FZ6, probably worth giving this a try.
Hey Tiago! It has been flawless. No bindings. Just smooth operation. I suspect it'll be just fine for years to come. Eventually I might buy new mounts and levers, but at least this took away the urgency and I saved my money :)
@@sstressfl Good to know, I'll be working on doing the same for mine :D.
Cheers!
@@tiagovarandasyt Cheers!
Thanks for Saving my bmw s1000rr
Another cool vid or the Suzuki, just prepping the GSR myself for an awesome spring ride through the Adelaide hills after a long winter!!
Man oh man, I'm just heading into a long Vermont winter. Will be winterizing soon!
Any reason why the link he provided is to steel not brass washers ?
Sorry about that. I intended brass. But they are stainless. I was in the brass section, changed the size and it matched me with stainless steel. They are flawless, smooth, strong and have been working well since I made the video.
would this be why my motorcycle is moving in first why clutch us being held?
This issue is just a wobbly handle. What you’re describing is a clutch adjustment. Every bike has an adjustment method and it’s usually very easy.
@@sstressflI have my r6 on a lift but as I pop it into first the rear tire moves without me releasing the clutch at all . As well as the second gear looking the same .
@@matrixskater3674 When the rear tire is in the air its normal to have a little spin. So if you dont feel it tugging when youre on the ground you dont have to worry about it. Also, you should have about half lever release before you feel the clutch engage.
What's your bike bro?
2015 Suzuki gsxs750 👍
It's great when a plan works out.
So happy with it 👍
@@sstressfl It looks like I'll be doing this on my R6. The clutch play is atrocious.
@@HustleHabit I was surprised how silky perfect the Harley handles were. Made me envious. Its a minor thing but you'll appreciate the more precise feedback.
@@sstressfl No doubt. Thanks for the how-to and the link for the parts.
Thanks helped me fix my problem on my gs650gl :)
Awesome 👍
For some reason you really remind me of Savage from MythBusters
Jordan Abbott ha!! Wow I can totally see that....
I bought a bike yesterday, it had a wobbly clutch lever, took it back to the dealership and they said “it’s supposed to do that so it doesn’t snap”
That makes no sense lol it should have a tiny bit of play but not way crazy loose. Like I said in the video, I rode a Harley and the levers were so precise! Made my bike feel like garbage. I took most of the play out and they feel amazing now 👍
My 2021 doesn't have hazards but it looks as though I see that red hazard switch on yours.. I'm jealous. I was told that only the European models come with the hazards
That is weird! I thought all bikes had hazards in the US. Must not be required.
@@sstressfl right, even the dealer didn't know about it until I pointed it out lol
Why do the levers get wiggly?
It usually comes that way from the factory.... i didnt notice until I rode a Halrey Davidson Breakout ($20,000 bike) and its levers were precision dreamy silky smooth with no wobble of any kind. Then I got on my bike and it felt like wobbly cheap garbage :)
Hey man, how can I contact you? 15' GSXS750
Sure! i'm at michael@clickthruvt.com
The other day I tried to ride my Harley Dyna without earplugs and without my full face helmet. I found out that my clutch lever rattles and I can hear it over the sound of the bike. The solution? Just don't ride without earplugs LOL.
Lol that’s awesome 👏👏👏👏
Very useful ❤
Thank you 🙏
My next job thanks man!
youre welcome :) thanks for the feedback!
Mine are pretty wiggly. Uh oh
Good job👍🏼
Thank you!
How’s it holding up?
Haven’t had to do anything other then spray a little triflow on it once in awhile as part of regular maintenance. Feels great 👍
He needs a bit of slack on that lever though, my clutch would start slipping at 10k in 5th/6th with his level..
I have the amount of slack as defined in the factory manual.
Tha ks. Helpful. Make some
Meore quality vid.
Working on it :)
Very good
thank you 🙏
Tryna fix up my 300 dollar running kz1000 this is one of my problems
Kz1000 …. Very cool 😎 what year??
@@sstressfl it's a 1988 but it was a police bike before then someone tried to make a horrible rat bike I stripped it of its "add ons" then added a new head light and turn signals I might get you handle switches too. But yah a work in progress
@@mariof3823 always amazes me how expensive those "little" things can be. Adds up quick! Great platform. Hope you can bring it back to something you enjoy to ride.
@@sstressfl I live out in the countryside so I take it out and I still enjoy riding it haha
Fz V2, self starting not working on gear anyone??
What kinf of washer thank you
A quality thin washer made of stainless steel or brass would work. I ended up with stainless steel. Link in the a description below video 👍
for the sake of 20-30 bucks why risk it just buy a new one
It’s not worn… it comes that way.