Victoria de los Ángeles reveals an Assoluta Range with Blasting D6s in Manon's Gavotte

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    -From James McCourt:
    No, after a recital she was ready for her favorite word and activity, , "conversation," and in every city but especially in Barcelona and Madrid (a city she greatly preferred to her own. She was Spanish, not Catalan (and Catalan women don't seem to know who they are at all),. And conversation for her meant listening as much as talking. She was an egalitarian and never a diva--although when her elder son brought home a puppy, they both decided to call her "Diva"
    The (greatest) roles: The Countess Almaviva, Manon, Butterfly and Melisande.
    Since this is a page dedicated to Maria Calls, I will tell two things. Maria hated New York and the Metropolitan. She said of Victoria "She is the rose in the middle of all the weeds."
    Some time in the 70s, Victoria was giving a recital at the Salle Wagram in Paris, and an enormous basket of the most beautiful red roses was delivered backstage without a card attached. "But who sent these beautiful roses -- and so many!" "The sender wishes to remain anonymous, Madame." Then I cannot accept them," After a long pause, the man said," Well, Madame they are from Madame Callas." Victoria said '"Well, I am going to call her up," and she left the dressing room and went into the executive offices and did so. Thus there developed a friendship, by telephone, for both women were shy (Yes, Maria in her later years was shy.) I asked her about this but she never said a word about it until Maria died. Victoria was the first person Bruna called that morning, and heard the telephone fall to the floor, and no sound but weeping on the other end. Years later, when Victoria was chosen to open the Maris Callas Atheneum in Athens, she held up her hand to stop the voluminous applause and said, "Please may we all give a standing ovation to Maria Callas?"
    It was that night I attempted to "get at" this friendship of theirs -- it was then that she said "Nobody could touch her," and all she would say to me, her eyes full of tears was "I was trying to get her to keep the heart heart Up."
    Sincerely yours,
    James McCourt
    Disclaimer - I own nothing
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  • @josemiguelgranados9723
    @josemiguelgranados9723 3 года назад +11

    Victoria de los Angeles She was one of the great artists of the twentieth century and was recognized by all the really greats, from Tebaldi to Callas, who adored her, from Kraus to Björling, Corelli and Di Stefano or Gigli, with whom she debuted in Madrid, where she always was. favorite ... Madrid offered her the great tribute that Barcelona denied her, with Andrés Segovia and Kraus among the guests, and there I was, as in her wonderful Melisandre at the Teatro de la Zarzuela, the last opera role she performed. There are still those who remember his debut in Madrid, with Manon, and Beniamino Gigli as a partner, who gave it the full ovation of the public that night, that's how my father related it to me. Madrid will always carry Victoria in its heart and preferred her to Caballé, who, perhaps unconsciously, vetoed her at the Liceo and hurt her in his city, Barcelona

  • @esuna6352
    @esuna6352 6 лет назад +33

    What I think are the most striking about Victoria de los Angeles is her brilliant musicality and her flawless mastery of languages. She's the singer that always comes to my mind as a standard for proper diction, enunciation and pronunciation in singing. She is stupendously fluent in any language she sings in!

  • @lalagonegaga
    @lalagonegaga 7 лет назад +26

    This is just something else altogether. The voice, the technique, the acting, the charm, the musicality, the attention to detail - she had EVERYTHING going for her.

  • @thesoubretteoftheopera7313
    @thesoubretteoftheopera7313 6 лет назад +28

    Can't be just me thinking this but the opera stars in particular sopranos of yesteryear sound so much better.
    The voice sounds free and natural. Nothing forced or strained.

    • @DorisWilliams
      @DorisWilliams 4 года назад +1

      yes agreed! Can't stand pavarotti though with his forced high notes.

    • @jerryarispi8386
      @jerryarispi8386 3 года назад

      They were better. They made there way on talent and voice back then. Sadly, now there is such a focus on appearance. The Callas and De Los Angeles voices are out there, but would they get the support and opportunity today? Probably not. Instead we get Anna Netrebko and other mediocre voices in pretty packages. YUCK

  • @JustMarmalade
    @JustMarmalade 7 лет назад +15

    It's absolutely wonderful! I never knew she had such top notes. I always associated her rather with beautiful middle and bottom. I couldn't find anything really high so thank you for this! And what a lovely timbre she had. I love her Mimi from La Boheme with Bjorling.

  • @rakellcolotta3675
    @rakellcolotta3675 3 года назад +6

    Beautifully sung. Such a lovely and expressive voice. The top notes amazing!

  • @alfiea9508
    @alfiea9508 2 года назад +3

    My all time favourite, thank you thank you for this rare D6 form her 😍! I don't know what but there is something in her voice that really touches my soul every time I listen to her. I wish more people would acknowledge what an amizing singer she was.

  • @aprendizercomygor
    @aprendizercomygor 7 лет назад +24

    De los Angeles was definitely one of the most complete and versatile artists of the last century. While not possessing an immediately striking instrument, her timbre is absolutely pure gold, fully lyrical while also possessing a huge array of colors, and her musicianship is still unsurpassed in the opera world as far back as audio recordings go (there may have been her equals, but none who had better sense of style and of the shaping of a particular line).

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад +3

      this clip reveals she had an Assoluta instrument in her throat... why didnt she sing the Assoluta repertoire

    • @aprendizercomygor
      @aprendizercomygor 7 лет назад +3

      I think hers was fundamentally the epitome of a great voice of lyric soprano. It had a very large range, a huge array of colors, and an equally well supported voice from top to bottom, but it was fundamentally lyric, and I think she wouldn't have the metal and sheer power for more dramatic roles. Anyway, she sang difficult roles, like Butterfly, with extreme ease as if they a piece of cake.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад +4

      without the Db6 at the end of Quanto cielo none can call it piece of cake

    • @loboestepario2424
      @loboestepario2424 7 лет назад +9

      I would add to your analysis that Victoria de los Angeles is always intelligible, no matter in which language, whether is Spanish, Catalan, French, German, Italian... her pronounciation is absolutely clear and on point. I find that's quite a feat, on top of her musicality & the sheer beauty of her sound.

    • @poupeeroca5684
      @poupeeroca5684 5 лет назад +2

      comó dice el que me precede la voz de V.de los Angeles es puro oro yo le agrego que es como la plata con esa tersura inigualable

  • @JJoeisCooking
    @JJoeisCooking 3 года назад +8

    One of my favorite sopranos and the first soprano I ever heard.

    • @thomasdeansfineart149
      @thomasdeansfineart149 3 года назад

      Ah, she was also the very first soprano I ever heard in person. My parents had given me her delicious Barber of Seville (with Gui) only months before and they took me to see her in person in recital as a special treat. And what a treat! The audience virtually ate out of her hand, and we could have stayed all night--but I had school the next day.

  • @Paddy818
    @Paddy818 7 лет назад +9

    How incredible to hear yet another side of this extraordinary artist! Her sense of style unparalleled! Thanks for posting!

  • @MrTrackman100
    @MrTrackman100 6 лет назад +9

    As a youngster my introduction to opera started with recordings of La Boheme and Madame Butterfly, both with de los Angeles and Bjorling. Never been bettered or equaled since!

  • @josemiguelgranados9723
    @josemiguelgranados9723 4 года назад +7

    Fortunately we have had great sopranos for the role of Manon ... I do not mention any, but Victoria, she was Manon, very musical, incomparable, flirtatious and young at the same time ... without a doubt the best.
    Thanks James, for you I have known today the respect that Callas had for her ...

  • @karenkim3377
    @karenkim3377 9 месяцев назад +1

    Liquid silver- what a magical listening experience.

  • @user-bc9mn7gq2c
    @user-bc9mn7gq2c Год назад +4

    Top notes be damned! In this role I believe she achieved levels of insight and communication that few singers have equalled. One need go no further than Act I of this opera, esp. "Je suis encore tout etourdie" -- so much meaning!

  • @loboestepario2424
    @loboestepario2424 7 лет назад +21

    There is a video of Victoria de los Angeles in the 80's, where she explains this Manon recording and says that, though she had the very high notes, she never intended to use them for the sake of them, that she felt she was "showing off" (as if it was something negative, her character was like that).
    Then they go on talking about this aria, and she says that she recorded a first version without the very high notes, and then the conductor (or the De Grieux? I don't remember) went to see her and said: "you know, Victoria, in here in France you have to sing the high notes, otherwise, it would be very awkward, as these are part of tradition". So she did a second take, which I suppose is this one!

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад +13

      For years I was slightly searching to locate her top notes... now I know
      why I couldn't... another viewer informed me about her idea of the
      Butterfly entrance Db6 being out of music text.. I totally disagree, I
      find it fantastic but EXCRUTIATINGLY difficult to sing as it demands
      abrupt jump from legato middle voice singing to sustained dramatic
      stratosphere (one of THE most difficult notes ever written)... as for
      this one, it is not just a matter of tradition, Manon here is a woman
      exhibiting her Beauty like crazy, she is supposed to sing D6.. ...but what amazes me here
      is that her top notes are not like the top
      notes of the other Avoiders (Flagstad, Ponselle...) They are
      FANTASTIC... extremely steady, powerful and sung with full body of
      voice

    • @Rukasepar
      @Rukasepar 7 лет назад

      Lore has it that it was Henri Legay (her Des Grieux on this classic recording) who convinced her to go for the high D or whatever the bloody thing is called. The result is most convincing. Thanks to EMI this recording transitioned from LP to CD and despite "mono" only it's a feat.
      :-)

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад +1

      not only convincing, this is D6 steady, sustained, powerful and full Body... it reveals the voice of an Assoluta if she had chosen to keep singing up there considering the fact she also had a wonderful low... I wonder why she never sang the Assoluta repertoire

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад

      + Martín Carvajal First your write F6 then G6.. I ve known for a long time the famous G6 that Esclarmonde contains, isnt it a G6? or it contains an F6 as well?

    • @francoisherisson2910
      @francoisherisson2910 7 лет назад +3

      loboestepario2424 and her French is excellent! Beautiful..!

  • @aetion
    @aetion 7 лет назад +10

    She is really amazing!
    Thanks for the post.

    • @aetion
      @aetion 7 лет назад +1

      She fully justifies her name *Victory of the Angels*

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад +2

      well I didnt know she could sing the top notes like this...

    • @aetion
      @aetion 7 лет назад

      If you did not, no one did. ;)

  • @zeynjenkins2073
    @zeynjenkins2073 7 лет назад +7

    Beautiful high notes... So effortless...

  • @lewissilvers5832
    @lewissilvers5832 3 года назад +3

    BRAVA!BRAVA! Her Manon,Melisande etc.- heard at the Old met- were HEAVEN!

  • @cashelnd
    @cashelnd Год назад +1

    This was the first recording of Victoria de los Angeles I heard as a teenager several decades ago, and it remains a treasurable document, probably unsurpassed in the archive of studio recordings. Among the DVD documents, the Barcelona performance with Dessay and Villazon is quite wonderful, and despite the grim staging conveys something of the same poignancy and heartbreak that the de los Angeles recording so beautifully offers.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  Год назад +1

      Dessay shows her tits and grabs her pussy or...?

  • @wildbunch3894
    @wildbunch3894 3 года назад +5

    Cómo se puede cantar tan bien, Dios mío? Magnífica

  • @pammyjones1151
    @pammyjones1151 7 лет назад +7

    Wow!....I was surprised too....what year please? Sounds very early in her career..... thanks for sharing 😊

  • @Mawrdew
    @Mawrdew 4 года назад +2

    Loved reading James McCourt's comments. I'm a huge fan of, "Mawrdew Czgowchwz," McCourt's great ode to divadienst.

  • @jmiller05
    @jmiller05 7 лет назад +14

    I never knew she had those notes... usually her voice got tight on a C6, but this is gorgeous, effervescent singing.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад +5

      I didnt know either... one of the Viewers who was her personal friend informed me and here it is.. and more... and it is extremely powerful, not thin and falsetto... she ascends Full Body up there

    • @jmiller05
      @jmiller05 7 лет назад +4

      I always loved Los Angeles's middle voice, so beautiful and feminine.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад +2

      is this the real tonality of the piece? if it is EVERYBODY else flat-sings it... I think in the middle she goes up to Eb6 1:56 :D

    • @jmiller05
      @jmiller05 7 лет назад +1

      Lohengrin O Well she might have gone a bit sharp lol.
      Massenet was truly the High D king.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад +1

      ...but what amazes me here is that her top notes are not like the top notes of the other Avoiders (Flagstad, Ponselle...) They are FANTASTIC... extremely steady, powerful and sung with full body of voice

  • @lewissilvers5832
    @lewissilvers5832 3 года назад +1

    BRAVA! Her Manon,Melisande etc.-heard at the OLDcMet- were heaven!

  • @user-bc9mn7gq2c
    @user-bc9mn7gq2c 4 года назад +4

    Is this taken from the Pierre Monteux recording? Could the sound here have been raised just slightly in pitch from the original??

  • @1968KWT
    @1968KWT 10 месяцев назад +1

    #Victoria_De_Los_Ángeles100 🌹🌹🌹

  • @Toscarpia
    @Toscarpia 7 лет назад +4

    "with one Blasting D6", to be exact...

  • @antoniofernandez-albalatga5731
    @antoniofernandez-albalatga5731 3 месяца назад +1

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @gobluts
    @gobluts 3 года назад +2

    diamond like tones.....gorgeous

  • @violin3394
    @violin3394 2 месяца назад +1

    Who is James McCourt to say that Catalan women don't seem to know who they are? That's pretty disrespectful

  • @jordipanadesribera6890
    @jordipanadesribera6890 Год назад +2

    ÚNICA.

  • @henrygingercat
    @henrygingercat 7 лет назад +5

    Her intelligence and musicianship were of the very highest order. Alas her top Ds were not.

    • @LohengrinO
      @LohengrinO  7 лет назад +4

      these particular D6s are fantastic... perhaps u refer to her later D6s

  • @idroj6566
    @idroj6566 3 года назад +2

    De distinguit el Sr. McCourt no en té res. Més aviat es un gran mal educat. Victoria certament era d' origen espanyol ,però va estimar Catalunya i es va sentir Espanyola i Catalana a la vegada.Si es cert que va cantar cançons del folklore espanyol com ningú, també va ser així amb la seva excelsa interpretació de les cançons populars catalanes. El comentari sobre les dones catalanes i la negació de la catalanitat de Victòria ,es inapropiada i mal intencionada. Faig el comentari en català per q es una llengua tan important i rica com la Anglès,francès o Italia... aquest nivell de xenofòbia ,McCourt, es un greu problema q vostè té i cregui'm,als catalans ningú ens ha de venir a explicar qui va ser Victòria de los Ángeles!

  • @vltgtd2080
    @vltgtd2080 7 лет назад +9

    I discovered her and this opera in the '55 recording with Pierre Montreux, the end just broke my heart in a thousand pieces..
    I absolutely love her as Manon, she's so feminine, her voice suits perfectly this role
    Thanks !!