Shaq on being the 5th-best center of all-time
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2023
- Shaq responds to being called the fifth-best center of all-time 🗣️
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Shaq is definitely #3 but I’m not mad at anyone who has Hakeem ahead of him
yea i have hakeem ahead of shaq bc hakeem was a far better defender
@@sb22mdreal I have him below Kareem Hakeem and Bill Russell
Hakeem was more talented and had a higher skill level, but at the center position dominance is a tad bit more important than skill. So I’ll give the slight edge to Shaq.
@@JBdoesballexplain how someone who was going up against majority white plumbers and carpenters on the weekends over Shaq🤔🥴 math ain’t mathing my boay🤷🏾♂️
@@zacchfromdalou9679 one of the greatest defenders of all time 11 rings 4 MVPs and ridiculous stats plus one of the greatest rebounders of all time
For shaq’s personality, that’s actually pretty humble lol
Because you just watch him on TV and think that’s his personality. It’s a tv show
@@ItsNahniTELL HIMMMM
Hakeem Dominanted on both ends and never played with the talent Shaq played with. #1 in blocks #9 in steals. Retired top 10 in 4 of the 5 major categories.
i mean .. what should shaq do about the talent ???
shipped them away ??
Yea but it was orlando shaq, not prime shaq
What’s harder ? Being the best on a trash team or being the best on a stacked team?
Hakeem played with PLENTY of talent
2 rings to Shaqs 4
The dream gave shaq that work every time
That’s pretty humble of him tbh
Prime Hakeem with Kobe over prime shaq
He wont let a current player would pass him
@@choox708or a player who competed and won against him (Hakeem)
@@kevinzhu6417in his 3rd year…
@@erniejohnson677
Hakeem is not even close to Shaq.
Shaq is one of the most underrated great player. People would hang on to any small instance of imperfection from Shaq in order to pay respect to other great centers like Hakeem.
If one ignores those narrative factor, and only look at the stats of head-to-head match up between Shaq and Hakeem (and other centers at the time), you would see Shaq dominated all those centers in almost all games by a large margin. It wasn't even close. Even in that infamous magic-rocket playoff series, Shaq was still pretty much had the same stats line as Hakeem... outside of that specific cherrypicked series, Shaq completely dominated Hakeem.
Seriously google "shaq hakeem heat to head matchup stats game by game" and see the result yourself.
If Shaq took his conditioning seriously, he may have been higher.
Will! He will definitely have scored more. He had no discipline.
Kobe was right in saying Shaq would have been in the GOAT discussion if he had discipline
@@Ronny_Ron shaq with the mj mentality would be the goat
That's the crazy thing even without the conditioning he's still in the top 3
@@kila3477 unquestionably, you're right. It's that simple: Shaq with MJ mentality would be goat
If Shaq cared about the game he would be the undisputed GOAT. But he didn’t.
Hakeem is ahead and Shaquille and when they played each other Hakeem DOMINATED.
Hakeem passed your ass up in the finals 1v1 😂😂😂
Yea when he was a baby?? Against an experienced HOF veteran already.... Your point is??
Wasnt he 24 or 25? Hakeem was probably 34 or 35, old man then. Shaq would have never beat him 1v1 because Hakeem mentally owned shaq. Shaq only good when hes confident, he never had the confidence vs Hakeem. Ben wallace and dennis rodman had good success pushing back. Shaq bully, and not good when he cant bully. Lazy. 5th best is probably right overall. His 98-03 was a better peak than others though, ill give him that
Just wanna remind everyone Moses Malone is a three time MVP. Not saying he’s better than Shaq, just a reminder for why he in the convo
Shaq had it 3x too. Along with 3x finals mvp
@@jakejake909 Shaq is not a three mvp, despite how much revisionists wanna give him Nash’s very well earned MVPs
@@troyAZBNash has one well earned one. And people don't try to give them to Shaq they try and give the awards to Kobe. (he deserved the 06 MVP)
@@troyAZBNash stole 1 from Shaq and LeBron each
@@jakejake909 no Shaq has 1 mvp
He says number 3 here behind Wilt and Kareem but ive heard him put Olajuwan ahead of him several times on inside the nba
Right I always remembered him giving Olajuwon the respect that he deserved, don’t know why he’s only talking about all time points scored as the metric of measurement for greatness
It just depends on what he feels like saying that day😂
@@mastergamingnic1681because he knows his defense was questionable. Unstoppable on offense but any big man with footwork could cook him 😂
I've also heard him say he was fourth and included Russell.
I’ve heard him say Bill was the greatest big man of all time numerous times
The Dream was hitting you with that lateral movement though Big Fella
I love both Hakeem and Shaq, no doubt prime Hakeem had the edge on young Shaq and prime Shaq pounded on old Hakeem. Would have loved to see them go at it both at their apex. 94 Hakeem vs 2001 Shaq. Shaq vs Wilt have been awesome to see as well if any of those stories about Wilts insane strength are true..
Shaq was most dominant center but Hakeem had the best foot work I've ever seen in a big Man. He was super smooth with it.
I agree he was good
@@jordancoolwell8347"Good" is a huge understatement. He was all time great
Hakeem a legend def top 5
Shaq is fuckign Shaq dude dominated 💀in his peak like crazy he so good people think Kobe was him those first 3 years lol
@@gorcsauce696your grammar is atrocious.
@@gorcsauce696Hakeem swept shaq tho
@@Daniel_AurA😂
@@Daniel_AurAwhat are you a grammer cop? Is your cognitive ability so far grown that you cannot decipher simple spelling mistakes? Talk about 🅱️itch made emotionally driven bozos😂
Everyone always forgets Bill Russell. 11 rings in 13 seasons. When the team needed a head coach after Red retired, they went with the only person they knew who could motivate Bill Russell, and that was Bill Russell. So the final 3 seasons he played and was head coach. And won 2 championships as both before retiring.
Russell did the impossible at the Defensive end and while never the force others were on the offensive side, all he did was win.
Offense gets the glory, defense wins the championships.
Ya , but there were 8 teams in 1968 and 10 teams in 1969.. So not alot of talent to defend for the Celtics at that time. SHAQ played 82 games a year against 30 other teams. So there is that. 😮
@@danielives379 Lakers still had wilt Chamberlain who Shaq put ahead of him. Celtics beat those Lakers 6 times. Russell won 57 games against Chamberlain while losing 37 over his career. So individual starts may show Chamberlain, but many states including blocks and rebounds weren't stats until 73, and winning trumps stats as well.
Thank you!
@@nelspaulson3099 Shaq himself only says Wilt because of points. Those points were earned in an era that it was much easier to get those points in. Wilt was legit 2 feet taller than everyone around him. Russell also had the same era of basketball which is why we don't put them in the same discussion. If it was purely the amount of rings that made you the best, we would never be talking about Jordan. Russell would be the clear goat, but he's not, is he?
@@metalfingers2129 Jordan had said Russell is goat due to rings.
Honestly, if i wanted to win a game, i would take a team with Hakeem AND Shaq versus a team with Kareem and Wilt.
But anybody not having Russell Top 5 is CRAZY. Bro has ELEVEN championships.
🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
And he went up against Wilt.
Yea but bill had a superstar team they played in a bum era wit lil to no teams his only real comp was wilt but wilt didn’t have as much as bill did his entire starting line up was some of the only stars in the league they were the first super team no shit they was cooking 💀
Shaquille was a great center but he was not better than Hakeem. Basketball is more than just scoring.
Hakeem was a complete Basketball player; offense, defense, speed, strength, skills, endurance and an extremely high Basketball IQ.
Hakeem retired in the top ten in scoring, rebounding, blocked shots, steals, and field goal percentage. The Dream is #1 on my list.
That's the most humble I've ever seen Shaq 😂
Well when it comes to the centres he doesn't disrespect. (For them, specifically Hakeem he shows a ton of respect)
*main reason being Hakeems footwork cooked him many times when he was on Orlando and he fully admits it.
Reason it's tricky with Shaq is the league had to create special rules in order to try and stop his dominance.
Dominant , already in finals in 1995 , 4 titles
Yes number 3
Prime Shaq was unstoppable
Then you don't watch enough Shaq.
Oh yes, I remember when Shaq passed up Olajuwon. It was on Reptemver 47th, 9087....
Shaq didn’t play defense like The Dream. He only passed up Dream on his dreams.
Shaq's offense is 10x better
@@TeacherLegendaryHell no. Shaq's defense is 10x worse though.
@@vedounamanicadimasochisti you smoking strong stuff
@@TeacherLegendaryLOL you're just mixing team success and individual value up. Shaq was a telepass against pick and roll and wasn't nowhere near as complete as Olajuwon. Dream was almost as unstoppable on offense, and definitely more effective in the clutch (I'm not even talking about free throws). Charles Barkley has a better prime than O'Neal and Malone has the best carreer. Shaq was the best in the paint, of course... still, there's more than that.
@@TeacherLegendary Nah, Offense? Hakeem is literally one of if not the most skilled bigman to ever play the game, people literally pay him a lot of cash just to teach them footwork on both sides of the court. Hakeem had a middy, was a better free throw shooter, footwork in the paint, the only thing Shaq has over Hakeem is strength and that's it.
Bill Russell bro why doesn't anyone give this man his flowers
Cause he only averaged 15 points a game
apparently defense only matters if you can score? casual af@@stimmybutler6709
He’s trash watch a video of him actually play. All he can do it play defence. But plays it at the highest level possible
@@stimmybutler6709He knew he didn’t have to score to win. His teammates could score. He concentrated on defense, rebounding, shot blocking and passing. If he had to score more he could have, but he knew he didn’t have to. That is why he won 11 championships in 13 years. He had no ego.
@@daniellittlejohn4398the player with the most championships is "trash" is a crazy thing to say
Shaq was my guy!!! But Hakeem is better, best all-around center in NBA history to me!
Hakeem is the GOAT C.... real one's know it
@@KidDynamite25 💯
Moses Malone is mad underrated
Yep. 100%
Still below Shaq.
Everybody who knows basketball knows he was the sh!t.
“I passed Hakeem up” 😂😂😂😂
For real. Hakeem played both ends of the floor. There’s a reason Shaq making all defensive SECOND team 3x was the highlight of his defensive career. Not only was Hakeem dominant on the offensive end, he was dominant on the defensive end too. 2x Defensive Player of the Year, 5x all defensive first team, 4x all defensive second team, 3x blocks leader, and 2x rebounding leader. Shaq also had Penny, Kobe, DWade, and even the amazing Suns/young Lebron when he was old. Hakeem didn’t play with guys on that level except an old Clyde Drexler for his second championship. Rookie and Sophmore Hakeem had 2 decent years of Ralph Sampson too, but nothing compared to Shaq’s help
@@JacksonWalter735 yeah it isn’t particularly close. I guess he passed him up by getting swept and running to Kobe so the league could manufacture them a faux dynasty by rigging games. Congrats, shaq!
4th, Dream shook him up.
"Carried by Kobe"
- Chuck 😂
Russo lost me when he said Tim Duncan, that’s a power forward and is the greatest player at that position
Tim Duncan playing 3/4 of his career as a center and probably meaning he should be viewed as a center more is a hard thing to accept
Tim Duncan played a lot of center for the spurs.
@@lucrussell9363it wasn’t 3/4ths of his career. Duncan wasn’t consistently playing Center until after 09 when they got rid of McDyess. He was drafted in 97 and retired in 2016.
Duncan played more years at C than he did at PF.
In other words, Duncan’s entire prime was at PF. Won ROTY, 3x Rings, 3x FMVP, 2x MVP all at the PF position
If Shaq would have been a 70% free throw shooter he would be #1.
Facts. Also, if he just followed Kobe into the gym every day they would have won 6 straight titles and Shaq would be considered the GOAT.
Nope! He's #3 behind Kareem and Hakeem. He's above Wilt but that's arguable. He can NOT play defence like either Hakeem or Kareem. If Shaq's FT% was 99% he'd still be clearly behind BOTH
@connman8d617 Hakeem > Shaq and it's obvious.
@@KidDynamite25 Shaq was a much more dominant offensive player than Hakeem though and shot a much higher percentage from the floor. His main drawback was, again, free throws.
If Shaq was half as disciplined as Kareem he'd be top 3 player of all time, not just #1 center.
As a lifelong Rockets fan who grew up watching Hakeem dominate night in and night out… I agree with Shaq lol
Shaq was dominant because he was allowed to back the defender down into the basket. In the real world we call that an offensive foul, but not in the NBA. He was a 7 foot athlete with minimal basketball skills.
Seeing hakeem cooking shaq for 10 years makes my grandad never put shaq over him at nothing. Dude played 80% of his career with bad teams and HE made them contenders.
Prime hakeem vs young shaq
He cooked a teenage shaq, relax lol.
If Shaq beat on a 20year old Hakeem in his prime y’all would give him ZERO props, and he wouldn’t deserve them
@@ace3589who was putting up better numbers than "old" shaq
@@konorkaotic9657Hakeem was not in his prime lol
Shaq always humble but he is top 2 he change the game w the rules. Teams literally drafted guys to stop him or use em to foul n send him to the ft
No one changed the game more than Wilt
Peak for peak I’m taking Shaq over any big man EVER. Most dominant force in probably all of sports history.
Jordan said Hakeem is the center on his unbeatable dream team.
Fair list but I would put Olajuwon at 3 and Shaq at 4.
How many rings and finals mvp does Olajuwon have ?
@@madasseverything1106 2 including sweeping shaq in one of them 😊
@@madasseverything1106u give Hakeem a young penny he winning 4 easily 😂Hakeem best help was older star at the end stage of their career …u give Hakeem Kobe ..he not doing 1 3 peat I see at least 5 in a row easily Hakeem would easily dominate the game with limited touches while being the best defensive player on the team
@@FluGotGame 😂
😂😂😂hell naw
I like how he says kareem yes 😂😂😂
Even tho we all know Kareem cant stop Shaq
@@BoxingLegends2024and Kareem had an unstoppable shot
"I have to see if there's any truth in the criticism" should be the internet's new aspirational quote
if shaq hit free throws like Embid, he'd be the goat at 5
How can the GOAT be #5. A GOAT = #1.
@@DeCurtaRicanposition 5
Yea shaq spitting facts i totally agree he was the most dominant at a time when nba was still hard fouling no techs n all that other soft bs!!
Um shaq also got away with thousands of offensive fouls..
If you actually seen 2 clips of offensive fouls called on wilt
And the no calls for shaq barreling through someone
You can clearly see who truly was more dominate
And who was just favored by the league
The offensive fouls don't matter that much because if they called every single foul that happened to Shaq the game would last an extra hour @@universalplayz7496
Oldhead alert
@@universalplayz749665 year old spotted 🫵
lmao but that style of play is more advantageous to shaq than anyone else.. being the biggest strongest dude on the court of course you're going to thrive in that era. start calling offensive fouls and shaq's game would fall apart.
Wilt have more rebounds , blocks ,steals than anyone.
Wilt played in a league with a bunch of white boys who were under 6ft tall & no 3 point line bruh The whole game was revolved around the Center back then! all the white guys did was pass the ball around the perimeter & soon as Wilt even appeared open he got the ball for a layup the game was BORING AF back then! Wilt took 10x more shots than all of them newer Centers!
Kobe is the finest reader of the game if he said Wilt is better he is better.@@BoxingLegends2024
@@BoxingLegends2024 Lie harder.
@@UnconventionalReasoning honestly the 60s during wilt's prime was a harder era then the 70s during Kareem's prime
@@WispFigment Yes, especially when some of the best players were going to the ABA instead of the NBA. Players like Dr J, Artis GIlmore, Iceman, Rick Barry, Mel Daniels, George McGinnis.
Tbh. He should be 1st ballot .
3 finals mvp - 4 rings in a era where dynasty franchises & traditional frontcouurt/centers meant something.
Shaq was the most dominant. He speaks the truth.
That clip was freakin ridiculous with the light yet massive push and hop away
Bill Russell
*is overrated
No
I think they’re calling him a PF.
Bill 'lord of the rings' Russell
@@bigkaris912 nobody from his era thinks so. He got 5 MVPs because his peers thought that highly of him.
I remember Hakeem schooling Shaq most of the time and even when he got older
Bill Russel: "Hold my 11 rings, at least try"
If they hadn’t changed the league to handle Shaq
His numbers world be silly
He was attacked every play with no call
He played a way different game than those before him
He doesn’t get the respect he deserves
Stop it!! Shaq had an overall average career!!
The only reason shaq has 2/3 his career points (being generous more like 1/2) is due to thousands of uncalled offensive fouls
it’s absolutely pathetic the no calls
What? @@jamaalhorton2343
@@jamaalhorton2343you're out of your fucking mind. That is an absolutely ludicrous statement. There is no question he was the most dominant force the NBA has ever seen and maybe ever will see.
@@universalplayz7496you forget about all the calls that weren't made when he was fouled. You know almost every damn time in the pain. GTFO!
Hakeem worked that mf😭
Shaq has twice as many rings
I have Hakeem ahead of shaq bc of the team talent Hakeem had to work with. Haveing Kobe on your squad definitely helps. And Kobe got a ring after Shaq left.
I seem to remember Hakeen schooling Shaq in the finals.
3 or 4 yes... shaq vs hakeem is a tough choice
Hakeem > Kareem > Shaq/Wilt
@@KidDynamite25 era discrimination for wilt is valid honestly I mean in my opinion skill level was lower in the 80s let alone the fucking 60s
Hakeem schooled him in the finals, swept 4-0. Granted Shaq was young but I would put Hakeem ahead of him.
Intellectual honesty-rare!
Shaq is number 1. Dude dominated the paint better than any other player.
Damn Bill Russell not even in the conversation is fucking wild
He wasn’t particularly a great player, just a good player in a hood situation
Nope. He is in his own category.
@@ATF-Imagine saying the best defender of all time who is the best leader in the history of the sport, a bare minimum top three rebounder, and a solid offensive player is not great.
He was just on a good team
@@ATF-It would probably be different if the NBA started keeping several stats like rebounding, steals, and blocks before 73. 3 years after Russell retired.
I love that we all can agree as scary as shaq was, there was another level to him that we never got to see
Imagine if Kobe could have motivated Shaq to have his level of dedication.
Hakeem for me is either 1 or 2 because he changed game for everyone for centers guards his post game is what we loved about kobe jordan for mobile centersetc
I only got Kareem ahead of him because of his individual along with his team success. 2nd most points, 6 MVPs, 6 chips, most unguardable shot in history, etc…but Shaq number two in my book
Hakeem and Shaq are soo hard to decide who is better than the other
Hakeem is not even close to Shaq.
Shaq is one of the most underrated great player. People would hang on to any small instance of imperfection from Shaq in order to pay respect to other great centers like Hakeem.
If one ignores those narrative factor, and only look at the stats of head-to-head match up between Shaq and Hakeem (and other centers at the time), you would see Shaq dominated all those centers in almost all games by a large margin. It wasn't even close. Even in that infamous magic-rocket playoff series, Shaq was still pretty much had the same stats line as Hakeem... outside of that specific cherrypicked series, Shaq completely dominated Hakeem.
Seriously google "shaq hakeem heat to head matchup stats game by game" and see the result yourself.
@@bohanxu6125Shaq was no where near as good as Hakeem on defense 😂 and Shaq had 0 lateral movement and footwork. He was physically stronger than anybody else but he didn’t dominate both sides like Hakeem did
@@joshwoodburn5249
I'm not good at judging defense, so I'm just going to look at some simple stats. Shaq career defensive rating is 101.3, Hakeem is better at 98. but 3 points is not that big of a difference (as big as defensive rating between Hakeem and Tim Duncan).
In comparison, Shaq's offensive rating is 113. Hakeem offensive rating is 108... 5 points difference.. and this is considering that Shaq played as a role player later in his career and Shaq peaks much harder to Hakeem.
Again, you are comparing a guy whose peak has 52%FG with someone whose peak has 60% FG. The average FG% of NBA at 1995 is ~45%.
The difference in efficiency between league average and Hakeem (7%), is about the same as the efficiency difference between Hakeen and Shaq (8%).
Shaq and Hakeem are just on completely different level offensively.. while their defensive rating only differ by 3 points... For comparison the difference between Tim Duncan defensive rating and Hakeem is also only 3 points. Just like Hakeem is not that much worse than Duncan defensively. Shaq is not that much worse than Hakeem defensively... but the two are not on the same level offensively.
@@bohanxu6125 For what Hakeem lacks in size compared to Shaq he makes up with his shooting and ball handling. If you’re not good at judging defense then don’t judge dominance because in basketball defense is definitely a part of it. FG% is not the overall determining factor. Nobody could match up with Shaq physically the same way they couldn’t match up with Hakeem athletically. There’s a reason players like Hakeem and Duncan would give him problems.
@@joshwoodburn5249
"FG% is not the overall determining factor."
When FG% difference is as ridiculously large as 8%, I think no other factors can overcome this in most cases.
By the way, one way to consider both offense and defense together. We can look at their head to head match up.
Google search "shaq vs hakeem head to head stats, game by game" and you will see that Shaq stats is just so much better and it's not even close. Even during Hakeem's prime from 1993-97. His stats is a bit worse than shaq... and if you look at the whole 90s, Shaq average 24 and 12 against Hakeem 20 and 9, while Shaq has like 10% FG% higher than Hakeem!!!! It's really not even close.
You can say Hakeem was old in the later games. However, when looking at game by game stats, you will see Shaq has been destorying Kakeem in almost every game every since Shaq's second year.
"There’s a reason players like Hakeem and Duncan would give him problems."
This is just wrong. 90s Shaq is probably the most underrated player of all time. Because Shaq was the most dominant in the early 2000s not 90s, people try to give 90s great centers flowers by downplaying Shaq in the 90s...even though Shaq was still the best center even in the 90s despite being young.
Olajuwon > Shaq if we being honest. He dominated on both sides of the court.. had great midrange game.. good free throw shooter. probably best low post moves of all time. man didnt have a weakness. and he won 2 rings to shaqs 3 but didnt have a kobe bryant level talent with him.
Head to head, Kareem and Hakeem are the only dudes that would give Shaq trouble. No one else, ever.
Hakeem was my dude growing up, but Shaq was a force of nature...no less than 3, but I would personally put him at #1
Wilt career lasted 13 years and he still scored more than shaq
More rebounds by far too!
If Shaq had Mamba mentality he would have 12 rings
Maybe I don't want to go on 3 hours of sleep like a psycho
@@PetarChakarov but Kobes
Olajuwan kicked his ass in the Finals.
Shaq had no rebounding titles, no scoring titles. He was the biggest center in NBA history. He was the most dominating center in NBA history!
Bill Russell must have existed in an alternate universe then
Wilt scored 100 in a game and averaged 50 in a season and had six 70 point games. Shaq is a legendary hofer but wilt is the most dominant center of all time
Against plumbers
@@bigkaris912 statistically his is not only the most dominant center ever he's the most dominant player ever. He played against the best his Era had to offer. Without him playing against "plumbers" players wouldn't be as skilled as they are now. Without wilt there is no shaq
@@basketballlife44 Watch shaq game 1 2000 nba finals (wilt never doing that on the biggest stage where all eyes are on him)
@@basketballlife44 from your argument, wilt was the most dominant against the players of his era(plumbers) and shaq was the most dominant against actual NBA players?
@@basketballlife44and wilt even scored 4 points one game in the finals against tge celtics🤣🤣 dominance while shaq averaged 38 in 2000 finals that my friend is dominance
The Dream had Shaq looking like he was on skates or ice😂😂😂
That's actually the exact same way I see it. Really high level of self-awareness from the big man. I have so much respect for somebody like that.
Rare to hear Shaq being humble with the most dominant centers lol.
Not really, he does have a lot of respect for the greats at Center, always had
Shaq always put Kareem and Wilt before himself
I like how Shaq just invented a new category of “most dominant” to name himself #1 as if that’s an actual measure of anything.
But he actually was the most dominant
And he never lead the league in rebounding, blocks, and has 1 MVP 2 scoring title! Wow that’s domination!!!
Considering they had to change the rules of the NBA to handle Shaq, I would say that’s quite accurate.
@@ArcticGrumpythe nba had to change rules multiple times for wilt…
Actually called offensive fouls instead of letting wilt do what Shaq did which was just ramming into players
(Wilt probably would prob have 50k points if he actually allowed to do what shaq was doing in 2000-2001)
@@universalplayz7496man get off that man's nuts
Shaq is definitely #3, he is so based.
He’s among the best and the most powerful ! Shaq was a one of a kind ! Nobody broke the hoops like him
Hakeem ate him up
Fourth behind Olajuon, Moses 5th
Shaq was pure dominance, watching how humble he's become makes him #1
Ice cold iq take
Bill Russell to god: “Unleash the floods”
Shaq is the most unstoppable
I think as shaq ages he reflect on how his dad raised him a lot more now. Especially since he passed away. Just be a Kind humble man and help when you can!!
Except he's still petty, egotistical and dishonest 😂
@@Void7.4.14 petty sure but that’s most people lol
Hakeem was the best defensive player of all time and as good as any on the offensive side. I would choose him all day.
The problem with Wilt is we don’t really know how good he was because he didn’t play against anyone.
Shaq is crazy, Dream is arguably the greatest player ever, period, not just centers.
Retired in the top 10 of steals, rebounds, assists, points and blocks.
Won two rings with no HoF'ers in their prime running with him
Mvp, Fmvp and Dpoy all in the same season.
Gtfoh Shaq.
Hakeem playing with Kobe = more rings.
Shaq could have been #1 or 2, if he could have made 1/2 of his free throws !!! Admire Shaq LOTS....❤😂
Bill Russell I also throw in there as he has stats and is a team player and the type of guy who vaule on the court was so much more than the points, boards or defense. Like Bill Russell played basketball the right way and i think credit is due for that.
You can have Kareem.
I’m taking Shaq all day.
Facts
Exactly!!
Yup
Kareem put up Shaq’s prime numbers for ten years. THEN he won five more rings. Kareem was the best player in BASKETBALL HISTORY, not just the best center in NBA history.
@lynnerose7891 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's always funny to me when ppl believe Kareem would stand ANY chance against 2000 Shaq. 225lbs vs 325lbs 🤣🤣🤣 BBQ🐔
We gonna forget Bill Russell 🤔
Shaq #4
Can't deny that he's easily the most modest!
Olajuwon's lateral movement is laughing out loud in the comments 😂
I’d take Hakeem over shaq any day. He has Babied Shaq on multiple occasions
Most players who were dominant in the league will always put themselves at 1, I respect Shaq for paying his respects to the legends that came before him and knowing his place amongst those legends as well.
I remember Shaq his rookie year. If he was a maniac who dedicated himself 100% to the game, he'd be over MJ. He should have won in 95 and him and Kobe should have won in 04. There's 6 right there
I thought Hakeem completely dominated him in the finals the only one time he had a chance to prove himself he didn't do crap
I love that shaq is humble enough to actually give it thought and think “hmm maybe he has a point” that shows true maturity from where he used to be about his thinking in the game
Bill Russell is ahead of Shaq too.
Olajuwon mope the floor with Shaq's face in 95. In a final. 4 and done.
When is comes to big men Shaq is at the absolute top of GOAT mountain
Imo Jokic has passed Moses up and is sitting at the 5-6 spot rn
Hakeem is so far ahead of him
That’s your “opinion”
Hakeem was in his mid 30’s dominating Orlando shaq
So far!
Rockets fan here since the late 80s my unbiased opinion I think Hakeem is the most talented center of all time but in terms of legacy I’d have to put shaq over hakeem imo it should go 1. Kareem 2. Bill russell 3. Shaq 4. Wilt 5. Hakeem
Olajuwon DOMINATED at both ends of the floor, no other center did that except for wilt, and personally I think the dream would've eaten his lunch!
Humble knowing he was unstoppable
Shaq was Dominant since he was a good 50-pounds heavier than the next big center. Hakeem was not only dominant but a truly skilled player, unlike Shaq who dunked his way into dominance. I place Shaq at 4 and Hakeem at 3.