At first, I thought I would prefer the villain Joker story since that is basically the Joker we all know, but I loved this Vigilante Joker story. It really hit me in the feels especially near the end when Joker and Bruce were having that small personal conversation together after the fight and even at the very end when you see Joker looking at his pictures of Batman/Bruce in Arkham and also how happy he got when Bruce came to visit him. Which to me proves, that Bruce still hasn't given up on John and still considers him a friend even after everything that happened between them.
Xhar T Sorry, but it's just your wild theory... it only happens if you stay friends with John in Vigilante ending. It's the true Bruce visiting John. Like a FRIEND would do.
That joker battle was REALLY damn good imo. It really showed him not feeling pain, and only giving up when he literally couldn't fight anymore. The voice acting was spot on near joker's last words.
He was mutated since his incident with Ace Chemicals in past. Joker has pain immunity and enhanced strength, which grows each time he is active. That was a great showdown. I was overwhelmed by effort from this.
It's funny how Gordon gets kidnapped, blackmailed, and has his kneecaps shot out in the other route, but in this one he's just chilling watching everything unfold with a coffee and a smoke.
thats why I prefer this route because we can prevent a lot of bad things happening to us and the people around us and bruce still has the right to be Batman in this path and Alfred leaving doesnt make much sense.
@@geralt7050 alfred is right on both routes in the last episode bruce choices are what leads to it either been good or evil with john impacts the end he truly created the last episode
@@geralt7050 there's literally an option to say that. Alfred's reasoning is that that's how it USED to be. Now he believes that by creating joker, creating two face, ect that Batman is only making things worse, even if not intentional
I know, righttt!!!!!. i really do not understan how anyone could chose to be so mean to him, he is clearly try to change (how could you say no to that face in episode four)poor jhone
it's been brought up a number of times before in the comics though and by the fans: "couldn't Bruce Wayne do more good by donating millions/sharing his tech instead of being batman?" , Of course if that were the case we wouldn't have a comic anymore
"Alfred is making up weak excuses because the reality is he's too weak to be able to handle that his child figure might come to the bloody end" UMMMMM DUH. Obviously Alfred wants to protect the boy he raised as his own, not to be cliche but you would understand if you were a parent.
Well yeah, he's respecting Bruce's wishes, but he can't be a part of it anymore. He's still being a good parent. He loves Bruce all the same, he just can't stomach what he feels is his fault anymore.
Now that's how you conclude a series. Our choice does matter here. This Joker is not the homicidal maniac who kills over 30 people on a Tuesday night, this one is a lost soul who wanted to do the right thing but his impulses got the better of him. The chat after they faught was heart breaking. It showed us that Joker should've been mad at Bruce but he always wanted to be acknowledged by the man he considered as his best friend. This Joker is redeemable
Sandeepan Das yes! The moment when he asks did you consider me as your friend has so much weight into it. Wonder how the villain joker will be like. Im sure that it won’t be better than this.
Sandeepan Das But they don't let you redeem him. He goes full Joker in the end no matter what you do, and none of your "choices" ultimately made any difference.
"I could just listen to you speak all day with that accent. It's like a Dickens novel come to life. I bet it comes in very handy around Christmas." It sure does. XD
It was so refreshing and funny seeing Joker as a vigilante, at least in the beginning. I have already considered dressing up as this version of him for Halloween! Love the jokerangs!
She is using criminals to avenge her family the wrong way. She was a mom who was torn apart from her lover and kids by crimes and she became a harsher, more lethal woman.
"She's going to kill me... kill me or turn me into a slave like Bane. And look what happened to him! I don't want to have some maniac stab me!" Haha... wait, so Joker is self aware about being a maniac despite he plays a hero?
This is EASILY one of the most impactful batman stories ever told. The Joker is Bruce's friend who couldn't be saved, and it makes the whole dynamic the two have into something very unique as Bruce tries and fails to steer him down the right path.
This has definitely put me in my feelings from the beginning and I'm still in my feelings. The joker and Batman being together side by side is what I've always wanted to see. Kind of like the end of "The Killing Joke" when they're laughing together and not fighting. This is what I needed.
In the end, Joker was right. Waller did some terrible things around the world that should put her under the jail but because of how the system worked and her position she's not going anywhere near a courthouse or a jail cell. Joker understood that and decided that he should kill her. Tiffany understood that no prison can hold Riddler and killed him. Joker was right about Batman, he really is messed up and has an unrealistic way of doing things. Even Superman killed a few of his enemies and his city was better for it,. The end justifies the means.
silverquis this episode could’ve gone a whole lot better tbh like they should’ve let us have the ability to prevent a lot of things from happening and let us have actions happen Joker could’ve been partners with Batman without going back to Arkham asylum Alfred could’ve stayed and continued helping Bruce as he was before Bruce could’ve been couples with cat women Cat women could’ve been partners with Batman Waller dies Agent Avesta works with Bruce Bane and Quinn go to black gate And in the end Batman joker Avesta cat women Tiffany and Alfred could’ve been a whole team I wish they would’ve let us make those things happen and have different endings but it’s telltale tho sooooooo
silverquis I'm not really a big believer that the end justifies the means. Of course I'm not against killing Waller or Riddler since both Joker and Tiffany made some very valid points but when you justify doing a bad thing for the "greater good" it becomes easier to justify anything and that's where the problem is. That's why I believe Batman doesn't kill. It isn't because of this "we have to be better than them" shit, it's the fact that he's so broken and has so much anger he knows that if he justifies killing one criminal he'll end up justifying killing anyone who doesn't follow his definition of justice.
The more you resort to killing to end evil, the less of an issue it becomes overall. Eventually, it'll become your default option...just like the Punisher.
In this debate, both sides are right and wrong. It's all shades of grey, sometimes the end justify the means but at what cost? but is doing nothing at all any better than to put an end to it? You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
I really hope John Doe gets the professional help and rehabilitation he needs, but I also hope that Bruce Wayne does not get corrupted by John Doe. If Joker does get cured, then too much of Joker will be taken away from what makes Joker what he is.
If he gets cured, then maybe they can go the story route like they did in the comics (where Joker becomes good and goes after Batman and the insurance companies through the courts and politics).
BC_Guy it's not necessarily bad. In a way, it's a reflection of the life itself. No matter what you do, you will end up in the same place as if the place has always been the same.
That is a hell of an ending. It's like what the psychiatrist Carl Jung said "that the superabundance of any force inevitably produces its opposite". By being so extreme in the measures he took to take down criminals batman created villains that were as extreme as him in the opposite spectrum.
Honestly, I think this ending is way more interesting than the Villain Joker one, mostly because this? This is new. We've seen villain Joker with Harley Quinn before a million times, but Vigilante Joker is kinda new and it's refreshing to watch. I love the entire bromance between him and Bruce through this series x'D
Already played the episode. I gotta admit if there was a way to make John doe a real vigilante to help Batman with crime and don't kill will be the best
There's only so much you can expect from a violent schizophrenic psychopath. John wanted to be a hero like Batman, but in the end he just couldn't do it, and it broke him.
this counterpart of him doesn't look like he is violent, schizophrenic or psychopath to begin with. And if Bruce helps him as his only friend; he can stay good. We would all be driven bad without at least a friend.
I'm thinking that THIS was the ending that Telltale wanted all along, since it wraps up the Waller plot thread better. However, in the end, they realized a lot of their audience would only like Joker as a through-and-through villain like he has been typically portrayed. While this ending is technically simpler, it flows better. The other ending, while very good, seems a bit repetitive and preachy (as in, a lot of plot devices are not shown, but told).
The villain path also seems a bit contrived. Joker just happens to amass an army of goons that are willing to massacre an entire city, and was also able to plant over a hundred bombs across Gotham without anyone noticing for weeks? It feels a bit far fetched. The stakes are much lower in the vigilante path, but it feels a lot more personal since Bruce is trying to prevent someone he see's as a friend from completely falling in to the abyss, and thematically I think it fits with the rest of the season better.
Not really, gothams allways had a ready supply of socipathic assholes rich, crazy, criminal or poor who get off on causing pain and death to a city they blame for their own shortcomings. The kind of minds people like Joker, Two Face and Lady Arkham employed and draw to them like flies to honey. Plus it's very easy to place bombs around at times when no ones around or watching and gotham isnt exactly known to be aware of its surroundings...and the devices dont look like your typical bombs either. and they were working out of Ace chemicals, using it to make more of the virus... i was always curious on how they managed to make more till that was revealed. But i prefer the vigilante path because its a direction never taken with joker before...plus you battle waller and the suicide squad for half the episode.
Hats off to Telltale for pulling off two totally different stories for a season finale of a game. This is the story I prefer, but the villain version is amazing as well! Great job!
Joker in this game is redeemable, his last laugh was genuinely happy and he looks more sane while feeling guilty for his violent choices, i wish there’s more in this game😁
This really shows the joker in a different way he’s not crazy like evil crazy he’s metal like an actual patient from an asylum he can’t control his feelings Also nice way to portray the joker
Honestly I believe this was more realistic and better ending then "Villain" version. Waller and Batman cannot co-exist just like in "Villain Route" it's not very real since we all know from the comics/Movies that Waller is selfish and always had hidden agendas. She manipulated joker and incited him despite knowing he's unstable and would take it personal! For this universe, since the beginning it's always been different from all the batman knowledge we know. So this ending is a lot more real... But at the same time it confuses me. As a person who never played the game or understand the gameplay. Why can't Tiffany be team-batman and Catwoman be with him even if you make your "Choices" to be kind to Joker? That's pretty f*cked up and unfair. So he can't have it all in one? It's also messed up how Alfred said he created joker. In the villain route, it would had make sense. But here it's the Joker fault clearly. If only Batman had better communication with Joker it wouldn't have come like this. But I'm glad it ended with them still as friends. The ending made me smile and gave me hope for their relationship!
Okay based on the first 10 minutes of this episode this is what I can wholeheartedly conclude: Joker is a cod-dam amazing sidekick for any evil Batman. After 15 minutes: alright, he is a good sidekick and would definitely be a good replacement should the main batfamily go out of commission temporarily. After 26 minutes: I now want a universe where joker and a few of the other villains of batman are his allies and they together they fight off Batman's current allies, or even the justice league. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! why did i curse myself with this idea!!?!?!?!? no one will ever make it :( ... i shouldn't have wrote that and i don't know how to delete that... please ignore the last few lines. :(
IT'S JOKERRRR!!!!!! honestly, letting him go the way of crime is the best, story-wise, and Telltales should keep doing this Batman series. And Anthony Ingruber, if you're reading this, thank you, keep being Joker, you made my day!
Steven Isaac Martin I don't think it's possible as without Alfred batman wouldn't have any help, and Tiffany is gone. If Alfred stays, Bruce can't become Batman. So there's no way to stop the criminals
Sir_sipeington lol wtf what are u talking about bruce can be batman without Alfred in the comics Alfred did go away for some time but that dind't stop bruce from being batman so it is perfectly possible for a season 3
Sir_Snipeington dude do u even play telltale games sometimes the choices don't matter i'm pretty sure that in season 3 bruce will be batman despite what the player chooses because of the villan that we will have in season 3
when I played this, i got chills when he yelled "IT'S...JOKER!"-it actually scared me. and then seeing him laugh like that made me tear up, and I cried so hard at the ending. it really felt like i had betrayed him. I'll definitely miss john.
God I’m glad I went down this route for so many reasons one it leads to less death two seeing Joker trying to become a hero is actually pretty interesting
That batman-like entry from John to help Batman in the beginning was golden! I love this series, its so different from the original story, but stays just in the comfort spot.
TheReluctantRUclipsr btw wanna ask something M8? Who was the man at the end of this episode I mean was that hush or was it bruce wayne. Cause I am confused??
TheReluctantRUclipsr your not right imo. Vigilante breaks the vision of joker for me. Im a fan of ledger and killing joke joker so a vigilante kills everything i like in the character imo.
I’m glad this game did something new with the character of joker, as well as the batman formula as a whole. The complete lack of Killing Joke references is also refreshing.
I really like how they made this Joker, it's different, unpredictable, and really interesting to watch his evolution as a character, and interaction with Bats, despite the fact that he is a psycho and kills people(but i don't think someone actually cared about dead agents)
This ending actually really upset me. I COMPLETELY supported the Joker in every situation I could even when I knew it was wrong because I thought if I could give him someone to depend on and someone that would always be there for him no matter how bad he got that somehow I could save him. I REALLY wanted him to stay the child-like, charming, and full of life person who seemed to honestly care about his friends, he even seemed to care about the Riddler's death even though he admitted to hating him (although that might just be because he got so pissed at being blamed for his murder.) The fight between the Joker and Batman had to be the most heart wrenching thing in the game that I had to do.. I just kept hoping he would remember our friendship and snap out of it but he just kept escalating the fight.. At that point I came to realize that all this time I spent trying to be his friend was just delaying the inevitable and I might as well have just cut ties on the bridge and let him go with Harley and just let him become what he really is instead of dragging it out. I love that Bruce went to arkam to visit the Joker even after the shit that went down and when he says "Bruce!" And looks so happy and excited to see Bruce, it's almost like he's back to the good part of himself and it gives me a little hope that he could still be saved. Oh and that Alfred thing at the end was total BS because Alfred would never shirk away his responsibilities and abandon Bruce like that.
My Ranking Of The Top 11 Best Batman Telltale Episodes. 1. S2 Fractured Mask 2. S2 The Enigma 3. S1 New World Order 4. S2 Same Stitch (Vigilante) 5. S1 Guardian Of Gotham 6. S2 What Ails You 7. S1 City Of Light 8. S2 Same Stitch (Villian) 9. S2 The Pact 10. S1 The Children Of Arkham 11. S1 Realm Of Shadows Batman The Enemy Within is overall more better than Batman The Telltell Series and is also better made for having better graphics more features and a better experienced team, S1 had a heroic theme and S2 had a darker theme, The Telltale Series did a better job with Batman and Bruce's character by consistently having equal time for both and The Enemy Within did a better job at devoloping and compelling us too Batman and Bruce's character, S1 has a more simple and focused story, and S2 has a more Complex and a cohesive story, and Batman The Enemy Within fits the Batman Lore better than Batman The Telltale Series and pushes the boundaries further.
Thanks again for the awesome videos buddy, especially for one of the best heroes in all DC. Well its official the Joker's no hero, though he did seem like he had promise.
One of the only tragic and sympathetic versions of Joker ever done. This version actually is insane rather than the evil man faking insanity that most Jokers are. Even though I prefer purely evil Jokers this one was good.
Oh my goodness. This level has never reached that high before. Riddler kills Lucius Fox, Bane's debut along with the Pact's identity, About 74% of Gotham seized control by the Agency, John becomes The Joker, And now- Tiffany's a sniper behind the death of The Riddler? Exactly how much of an scale 1 to 10 of how worst this event takes place for our point of view? And also what is your suggestions?
I guess John or Joker is more like an anti-hero than actually a hero at least in where Joker is trustworthy to Batman. Although it still is a sad ending for him either way.
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At first, I thought I would prefer the villain Joker story since that is basically the Joker we all know, but I loved this Vigilante Joker story. It really hit me in the feels especially near the end when Joker and Bruce were having that small personal conversation together after the fight and even at the very end when you see Joker looking at his pictures of Batman/Bruce in Arkham and also how happy he got when Bruce came to visit him. Which to me proves, that Bruce still hasn't given up on John and still considers him a friend even after everything that happened between them.
James Wannan True. Even though at the end it was Hush, not Bruce
Xhar T who said its hush?
Lawfish66 The guy said that Bruce visited Joker at the end but it was Hush. Kind of obvious that it’s not Bruce so that was definitely Hush
Xhar T Sorry, but it's just your wild theory... it only happens if you stay friends with John in Vigilante ending. It's the true Bruce visiting John. Like a FRIEND would do.
Argoniek Okay I understand 👍🏼 thanks for clearing that up
That joker battle was REALLY damn good imo. It really showed him not feeling pain, and only giving up when he literally couldn't fight anymore. The voice acting was spot on near joker's last words.
IT was really good but I couldn't bare to hit joker like that
Riley Jones ok
He does feel pain he just ignores it
Still, where did all adrenalina and resistance came from?
It kind of felt batman was punching Bane and not Joker, xd
He was mutated since his incident with Ace Chemicals in past. Joker has pain immunity and enhanced strength, which grows each time he is active. That was a great showdown. I was overwhelmed by effort from this.
It's funny how Gordon gets kidnapped, blackmailed, and has his kneecaps shot out in the other route, but in this one he's just chilling watching everything unfold with a coffee and a smoke.
thats why I prefer this route because we can prevent a lot of bad things happening to us and the people around us and bruce still has the right to be Batman in this path and Alfred leaving doesnt make much sense.
Yes Gordon is my favourite character in the series and is one of Batman's good friends
@@geralt7050 alfred is right on both routes
in the last episode bruce choices are what leads to it either been good or evil with john impacts the end
he truly created the last episode
@@khaledomar6019 Maybe but it outweighs the bad
@@geralt7050 there's literally an option to say that. Alfred's reasoning is that that's how it USED to be. Now he believes that by creating joker, creating two face, ect that Batman is only making things worse, even if not intentional
The way John was genuinely happy to see Bruce in the end, holy shit man i teared.
Its... JOKER!!!
same
J-P L M me too I’m glad they’re still friends
My guess that's not Bruce, it is Hush and he will be the main villain in the third Batman Telltale game
I know, righttt!!!!!. i really do not understan how anyone could chose to be so mean to him, he is clearly try to change (how could you say no to that face in episode four)poor jhone
The last conversation with Alfred was fantastic introspection to the character of Batman
Bobby Pendragon exactly extremely powerful
it's been brought up a number of times before in the comics though and by the fans: "couldn't Bruce Wayne do more good by donating millions/sharing his tech instead of being batman?" , Of course if that were the case we wouldn't have a comic anymore
I didn't think so... it's the same as in The Dark Knight Rises.
"Alfred is making up weak excuses because the reality is he's too weak to be able to handle that his child figure might come to the bloody end" UMMMMM DUH. Obviously Alfred wants to protect the boy he raised as his own, not to be cliche but you would understand if you were a parent.
Well yeah, he's respecting Bruce's wishes, but he can't be a part of it anymore. He's still being a good parent. He loves Bruce all the same, he just can't stomach what he feels is his fault anymore.
Now that's how you conclude a series. Our choice does matter here. This Joker is not the homicidal maniac who kills over 30 people on a Tuesday night, this one is a lost soul who wanted to do the right thing but his impulses got the better of him. The chat after they faught was heart breaking. It showed us that Joker should've been mad at Bruce but he always wanted to be acknowledged by the man he considered as his best friend. This Joker is redeemable
Sandeepan Das yes! The moment when he asks did you consider me as your friend has so much weight into it. Wonder how the villain joker will be like. Im sure that it won’t be better than this.
Sandeepan Das mhm we watched this video too
Couldn’t put it a better way
Sandeepan Das But they don't let you redeem him. He goes full Joker in the end no matter what you do, and none of your "choices" ultimately made any difference.
bu there is hope more than othe rtimes this ones ha ve hope to be better
"I could just listen to you speak all day with that accent. It's like a Dickens novel come to life. I bet it comes in very handy around Christmas."
It sure does. XD
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Joker is cute.
It was so refreshing and funny seeing Joker as a vigilante, at least in the beginning.
I have already considered dressing up as this version of him for Halloween! Love the jokerangs!
Me too!😁
I like vigilante Joker.
'Waller really doesn't care'
the pokemon menu screen popped up to tell me that
I laughed so hard because it’s true
She is using criminals to avenge her family the wrong way. She was a mom who was torn apart from her lover and kids by crimes and she became a harsher, more lethal woman.
waller is corrupt bastard.
I hate her.
This might honestly be the best way Teltale has ever handled a conclusion.
Will exist season 3
Marco Félix 117 season 3 probably will exist seeing Telltale reopened.
@@joshuaagee-bass4049 noice noice I can't wait lol
"She's going to kill me... kill me or turn me into a slave like Bane. And look what happened to him! I don't want to have some maniac stab me!"
Haha... wait, so Joker is self aware about being a maniac despite he plays a hero?
Well he’d said that he got a sickness that he can’t control in the last episode on the bridge and he also knows why he went to Arkham
the self awareness was funny
26:35 The Joker fangirling over the Batmobile was hilarious.
L O L IKR
Jodie Ella WE'RE TAKING THE BATMOBILE!!!😂
That was so funny😂😂😂
That just gives me life 💗😇🤣
It was adorable😂😂❤
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Neo Machine When you start too lose and argument
Neo Machine the only real choice in that situation
TK 570 [Gameplays] lmaooooo
Gordon: I know that feeling all too well
I get it now 😂😂
The moment he finally snapped sent shivers down my spine, how he effortlessly killed those agents because he was only holding back for bruce
This is EASILY one of the most impactful batman stories ever told. The Joker is Bruce's friend who couldn't be saved, and it makes the whole dynamic the two have into something very unique as Bruce tries and fails to steer him down the right path.
This has definitely put me in my feelings from the beginning and I'm still in my feelings. The joker and Batman being together side by side is what I've always wanted to see. Kind of like the end of "The Killing Joke" when they're laughing together and not fighting. This is what I needed.
In the end, Joker was right. Waller did some terrible things around the world that should put her under the jail but because of how the system worked and her position she's not going anywhere near a courthouse or a jail cell. Joker understood that and decided that he should kill her. Tiffany understood that no prison can hold Riddler and killed him. Joker was right about Batman, he really is messed up and has an unrealistic way of doing things. Even Superman killed a few of his enemies and his city was better for it,. The end justifies the means.
silverquis this episode could’ve gone a whole lot better tbh like they should’ve let us have the ability to prevent a lot of things from happening and let us have actions happen
Joker could’ve been partners with Batman without going back to Arkham asylum
Alfred could’ve stayed and continued helping Bruce as he was before
Bruce could’ve been couples with cat women
Cat women could’ve been partners with Batman
Waller dies
Agent Avesta works with Bruce
Bane and Quinn go to black gate
And in the end Batman joker Avesta cat women Tiffany and Alfred could’ve been a whole team
I wish they would’ve let us make those things happen and have different endings but it’s telltale tho sooooooo
YOUR•_•name here•_•PLEASE Am guessing that'll happen when Batman deals John Doe as the enemy at the start of the episode. Cool and twisted episode eh?
silverquis I'm not really a big believer that the end justifies the means. Of course I'm not against killing Waller or Riddler since both Joker and Tiffany made some very valid points but when you justify doing a bad thing for the "greater good" it becomes easier to justify anything and that's where the problem is. That's why I believe Batman doesn't kill. It isn't because of this "we have to be better than them" shit, it's the fact that he's so broken and has so much anger he knows that if he justifies killing one criminal he'll end up justifying killing anyone who doesn't follow his definition of justice.
The more you resort to killing to end evil, the less of an issue it becomes overall. Eventually, it'll become your default option...just like the Punisher.
In this debate, both sides are right and wrong. It's all shades of grey, sometimes the end justify the means but at what cost? but is doing nothing at all any better than to put an end to it? You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
I really hope John Doe gets the professional help and rehabilitation he needs, but I also hope that Bruce Wayne does not get corrupted by John Doe. If Joker does get cured, then too much of Joker will be taken away from what makes Joker what he is.
If he gets cured then he will be a good person. That won't change who he is.
@OXO SAN He is.
@OXO SAN He needs to be cured and he will be ok, you thing why he in the end is in Arkham, not in jail?
If he gets cured, then maybe they can go the story route like they did in the comics (where Joker becomes good and goes after Batman and the insurance companies through the courts and politics).
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TellTale games in a nutshell
You made my day xD😂😂
the illusion of choice :(
Dang! Al is a prophet! Is he telling us that all of these games are the same?!
BC_Guy it's not necessarily bad. In a way, it's a reflection of the life itself. No matter what you do, you will end up in the same place as if the place has always been the same.
BC_Guy fax 😂
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That's it. That's all I want to remember from this company. These absolutely incredible moments and nothing else.
TheCheck IT’S JOKER HAHAHAHAHA🃏
I can’t preach about that mental image enough.
A monster was born at that moment
That is a hell of an ending. It's like what the psychiatrist Carl Jung said "that the superabundance of any force inevitably produces its opposite". By being so extreme in the measures he took to take down criminals batman created villains that were as extreme as him in the opposite spectrum.
no I just took psychology for some extra credits
Well, Punisher and Daredevil: "you hit them, they get back up. I hit them, and they stay down"
Honestly, I think this ending is way more interesting than the Villain Joker one, mostly because this? This is new. We've seen villain Joker with Harley Quinn before a million times, but Vigilante Joker is kinda new and it's refreshing to watch. I love the entire bromance between him and Bruce through this series x'D
Boy.......that escalated quickly
Like really. John killed a guy.
Ryan Prem, 3 guys
@@ryanprem472 joker, not john
Already played the episode. I gotta admit if there was a way to make John doe a real vigilante to help Batman with crime and don't kill will be the best
There's only so much you can expect from a violent schizophrenic psychopath. John wanted to be a hero like Batman, but in the end he just couldn't do it, and it broke him.
that would be boring writing tho. there would be no conflict.
It wouldn't be boring for people like me who only care about him being safe and happy XD
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We are somewhat getting one in the white knight comics
this counterpart of him doesn't look like he is violent, schizophrenic or psychopath to begin with. And if Bruce helps him as his only friend; he can stay good. We would all be driven bad without at least a friend.
1:32:28 for those who might have missed it. My favorite part of this. I like to think these visits happen regularly.
I'm thinking that THIS was the ending that Telltale wanted all along, since it wraps up the Waller plot thread better. However, in the end, they realized a lot of their audience would only like Joker as a through-and-through villain like he has been typically portrayed. While this ending is technically simpler, it flows better. The other ending, while very good, seems a bit repetitive and preachy (as in, a lot of plot devices are not shown, but told).
The villain path also seems a bit contrived. Joker just happens to amass an army of goons that are willing to massacre an entire city, and was also able to plant over a hundred bombs across Gotham without anyone noticing for weeks? It feels a bit far fetched. The stakes are much lower in the vigilante path, but it feels a lot more personal since Bruce is trying to prevent someone he see's as a friend from completely falling in to the abyss, and thematically I think it fits with the rest of the season better.
I still think The Vigilante Ending is more complex than The Villian Ending.
Not really, gothams allways had a ready supply of socipathic assholes rich, crazy, criminal or poor who get off on causing pain and death to a city they blame for their own shortcomings. The kind of minds people like Joker, Two Face and Lady Arkham employed and draw to them like flies to honey.
Plus it's very easy to place bombs around at times when no ones around or watching and gotham isnt exactly known to be aware of its surroundings...and the devices dont look like your typical bombs either.
and they were working out of Ace chemicals, using it to make more of the virus... i was always curious on how they managed to make more till that was revealed.
But i prefer the vigilante path because its a direction never taken with joker before...plus you battle waller and the suicide squad for half the episode.
Yeah, the Villain ending is pretty cliche tbh, Vigilante is better.
@@DougieYTwrong
1:20:54 has to be one of the funniest decision I've seen from you.
Also look at Jim being all smug. Gotta love the guy
Hats off to Telltale for pulling off two totally different stories for a season finale of a game. This is the story I prefer, but the villain version is amazing as well! Great job!
WAIT BUT THE JOKER IS SO LOVEABLE BUT HE SCARES ME SO MUCH AND IM JUST CONFUSED
Megggy Boi I know this is an old comment but I relate very much
Joker in this game is redeemable, his last laugh was genuinely happy and he looks more sane while feeling guilty for his violent choices, i wish there’s more in this game😁
This really shows the joker in a different way he’s not crazy like evil crazy he’s metal like an actual patient from an asylum he can’t control his feelings
Also nice way to portray the joker
I don’t really think he’s stupid or as brain dead as you make him out to be. But in the final fight, that’s where he just snapped.
JOKER: We're taking the BATMOBILE? *gets in at supersonic speed*JOKER: WE'RE TAKING THE BATMOBILE!ME: How did you get in so fast?
ever heard of jumpcuts?
It's...sad. So, so sad...
😭
At
The end I gave up Batman it was the only way
So epic.
Honestly I believe this was more realistic and better ending then "Villain" version. Waller and Batman cannot co-exist just like in "Villain Route" it's not very real since we all know from the comics/Movies that Waller is selfish and always had hidden agendas. She manipulated joker and incited him despite knowing he's unstable and would take it personal!
For this universe, since the beginning it's always been different from all the batman knowledge we know. So this ending is a lot more real...
But at the same time it confuses me. As a person who never played the game or understand the gameplay. Why can't Tiffany be team-batman and Catwoman be with him even if you make your "Choices" to be kind to Joker? That's pretty f*cked up and unfair. So he can't have it all in one?
It's also messed up how Alfred said he created joker. In the villain route, it would had make sense. But here it's the Joker fault clearly. If only Batman had better communication with Joker it wouldn't have come like this. But I'm glad it ended with them still as friends. The ending made me smile and gave me hope for their relationship!
Okay based on the first 10 minutes of this episode this is what I can wholeheartedly conclude: Joker is a cod-dam amazing sidekick for any evil Batman.
After 15 minutes: alright, he is a good sidekick and would definitely be a good replacement should the main batfamily go out of commission temporarily.
After 26 minutes: I now want a universe where joker and a few of the other villains of batman are his allies and they together they fight off Batman's current allies, or even the justice league.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! why did i curse myself with this idea!!?!?!?!? no one will ever make it :(
... i shouldn't have wrote that and i don't know how to delete that... please ignore the last few lines. :(
I like the way you think :)
Yes you do
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"We're taking the Batmobile?"
.....
"We're taking the Batmobile!"
He is cute.
IT'S JOKERRRR!!!!!!
honestly, letting him go the way of crime is the best, story-wise, and Telltales should keep doing this Batman series. And Anthony Ingruber, if you're reading this, thank you, keep being Joker, you made my day!
Cy SwiftX Thank you, I'll pass your kind comment on to Anthony.
This was way better than the villain story
Keane Martin agreed
Nah both are great.
I liked them both very much, but I agree, vigilante is superior.
Red Ballad Yes Batman against the Government is boring
Reverse Flash he did it before
Finally, I was waiting for it all day!
ZIGUS333 me too!!
Ten minutes in. I love Joker as a vigilante
SEASON 3!!! SEASON 3!!! SEASON 3!!! I'll be shouting outside of my house to make it happen...😂😂😂
Steven Isaac Martin I don't think it's possible as without Alfred batman wouldn't have any help, and Tiffany is gone. If Alfred stays, Bruce can't become Batman. So there's no way to stop the criminals
Sir_sipeington lol wtf what are u talking about bruce can be batman without Alfred in the comics Alfred did go away for some time but that dind't stop bruce from being batman so it is perfectly possible for a season 3
killer gaming yes, but not everyone chose that option
Sir_Snipeington dude do u even play telltale games sometimes the choices don't matter i'm pretty sure that in season 3 bruce will be batman despite what the player chooses because of the villan that we will have in season 3
killer gaming dude, do you even know correct grammar? Besides, there may be a season 3 but I doubt it
when I played this, i got chills when he yelled "IT'S...JOKER!"-it actually scared me. and then seeing him laugh like that made me tear up, and I cried so hard at the ending. it really felt like i had betrayed him. I'll definitely miss john.
I hope there will be season 3
Black Eagle you know there is a season 3
I hope too, but if there will be season 3, which characters would you like to see in season 3?
Dominik9603 Gaming dr hugo strange maybe or ras al ghul plenty to pick from
I would like to see deadshot, deathstroke, firefly or robin, but I would like the court of owls as the main villains
That cant be Tiffany if you see it was not a drone it was a man in armor my guess it’s deathstroke look at the day riddler die I think she hired him
Not gonna lie. I don’t remember any other version of the joker that made me laugh so much
This Joker is the best. I want him in season 3.
@@princessroxyvincenzo5602 sameee
lol i like the names chuckle master and the giggler XD
Jet Lim what about lord of the laughs one
God I’m glad I went down this route for so many reasons one it leads to less death two seeing Joker trying to become a hero is actually pretty interesting
Why do I feel like this is the “true” ending and the villain one is more of a dlc type story?
Wow,that's one of the best Batman/Joker confrontations I've ever seen.
26:32 Joker (John Doe): WERE TAKING THE BATMOBILE???
WERE TAKING THE BATMOBILE!!!!!
I love it.
You are the best please reply back to me lol
That batman-like entry from John to help Batman in the beginning was golden! I love this series, its so different from the original story, but stays just in the comfort spot.
This ending is far better than the villian route which was quite underwhelming!
TheReluctantRUclipsr btw wanna ask something M8? Who was the man at the end of this episode I mean was that hush or was it bruce wayne. Cause I am confused??
Singh is king probably hush will be the next villain
Yah could be...why else would bruce be all smiley lol
I wondered the same question.
TheReluctantRUclipsr your not right imo. Vigilante breaks the vision of joker for me. Im a fan of ledger and killing joke joker so a vigilante kills everything i like in the character imo.
Plays for hours and it's Alfred or batman WHAT THE HECK TELLTALE
I just love these little short talks going on between joker and Alfred in the background during the ‘arm wound’ scene. X)
Vigilante Joker story is wayy better! I actually feel bad for Joker now..
Me too.
we're taking the batmobile . . . . WE'RE TAKING THE BATMOBILE !
I love this joker
Wait so they just left Alfred in the alley😂
Or... they made him sit in the backseat.
I’m glad this game did something new with the character of joker, as well as the batman formula as a whole. The complete lack of Killing Joke references is also refreshing.
I like this vigilante Joker. Something new and original.
The darkest timeline
ComiXProvider FTW_02 Not even close. Look up Batman the One Who Laughs
JackKook73 *The One Who KEKS
The villain Joker route: Hello there.
Joker as a vigilante is what dc needs do so something with somehow more
Joker: "I guess that's it, then? I just really wanted to be a hero, you know? But I just can't."
Me: "We all did, Joker. We all did."
I really like how they made this Joker, it's different, unpredictable, and really interesting to watch his evolution as a character, and interaction with Bats, despite the fact that he is a psycho and kills people(but i don't think someone actually cared about dead agents)
33:21 i enjoys how wallers attatude changes imedeatly xD from "I aint scared of you!" to "pls no"
I could listen to the Joker and Alfred banter/conversation all day long!
This game has really great storytelling small details/events from past episodes really made an affected on story Of next episodes
The way John Doe is dressed kinda reminds me of the Heath Ledger one from the Dark Knight
I would love to hear him say “Why So Serious?”
I swear, the joker was such a cinamon roll in the beginning
And!
A total fanboy
I like that u can actually try to make joker a sympathetic character even though he still really needs help with his mental health
My God Anthony Ingruber was truly phenomenal in this. He left it all out on the floor. Damn perfection.
Even if it feels like he's gonna turn bad, he's a true friend. I can't break that or hurt him
In some way he still is a good guy.
This ending actually really upset me. I COMPLETELY supported the Joker in every situation I could even when I knew it was wrong because I thought if I could give him someone to depend on and someone that would always be there for him no matter how bad he got that somehow I could save him. I REALLY wanted him to stay the child-like, charming, and full of life person who seemed to honestly care about his friends, he even seemed to care about the Riddler's death even though he admitted to hating him (although that might just be because he got so pissed at being blamed for his murder.) The fight between the Joker and Batman had to be the most heart wrenching thing in the game that I had to do.. I just kept hoping he would remember our friendship and snap out of it but he just kept escalating the fight.. At that point I came to realize that all this time I spent trying to be his friend was just delaying the inevitable and I might as well have just cut ties on the bridge and let him go with Harley and just let him become what he really is instead of dragging it out. I love that Bruce went to arkam to visit the Joker even after the shit that went down and when he says "Bruce!" And looks so happy and excited to see Bruce, it's almost like he's back to the good part of himself and it gives me a little hope that he could still be saved. Oh and that Alfred thing at the end was total BS because Alfred would never shirk away his responsibilities and abandon Bruce like that.
An amazing ending to an amazing game
Wish it never ended tho 😪
I’m so excited!!!
Captain Batman And I just can't hide it!
Captain Batman I just can't hide it
Hide it!
The creators of the game definitely don’t know anything about hydrogen peroxide. It doesn’t sting. Alcohol does.
That could just be Joker.
Anyone getting flashbacks to walking dead season 2 where Clementine was in the shed stitching up her wound ouch 😬
And now..... I am waiting for season 3......
Diya Singh Ikr
Diya Singh Same. I'm disappointed there was no end scene with Selina
Brian Boardwell... I'm too disappointed.... At least one time they should have a happy ending with her. .... I'm a true supporter of Bat n Cat😊
Wont b one telltales finished
Hungry Nerd goth I’m pretty sure there’s gonna be one now
"Waller really doesn't care"
SAVAGE! 😂😂
I dislike her.
Go away
@@muur1297 my dad
I appreciate how joker and Waller (kinda) switch roles depending on who you align with
nice evil laugh john doe so which means you're my greatest enemy just like the joker just like i told harley that i really hope you'll understand that
46:18 I thought Alfred was gonna say “You’re not Superman”
sofiyan ali he was definitely going to say it
this person reeeally gets me. i chose every single thing they did as i watched XD
Oh wow the last choice. The last choice that will determine everything in the future.
Hard choice in the end, goddammit!!! Let's hope it matters in the sequel, IF this gets a sequel
It is the sequel
@@Mohamad-m7md he meant a season 3
@@tyleroutland1248
I know
My Ranking Of The Top 11 Best Batman Telltale Episodes.
1. S2 Fractured Mask
2. S2 The Enigma
3. S1 New World Order
4. S2 Same Stitch (Vigilante)
5. S1 Guardian Of Gotham
6. S2 What Ails You
7. S1 City Of Light
8. S2 Same Stitch (Villian)
9. S2 The Pact
10. S1 The Children Of Arkham
11. S1 Realm Of Shadows
Batman The Enemy Within is overall more better than Batman The Telltell Series and is also better made for having better graphics more features and a better experienced team, S1 had a heroic theme and S2 had a darker theme, The Telltale Series did a better job with Batman and Bruce's character by consistently having equal time for both and The Enemy Within did a better job at devoloping and compelling us too Batman and Bruce's character, S1 has a more simple and focused story, and S2 has a more Complex and a cohesive story, and Batman The Enemy Within fits the Batman Lore better than Batman The Telltale Series and pushes the boundaries further.
I hope there is a Season Three:.
TheDCLogical :., hopefully.
My favorite episode of all telltale games is the ending of batman the enemy with in i mean the ending of the vigilante joker
that's the same water tower when batman and joker fought bane and waller's agents from the beggining
Thanks again for the awesome videos buddy, especially for one of the best heroes in all DC. Well its official the Joker's no hero, though he did seem like he had promise.
Man joker really earned that he earned it i hope he stays in there for life he won't get better
Bruh Batman and John's relationship made me wanna cry XD
This is epic.
I would pay to watch a buddy cop style show of Batman and Vigilante Joker just taking on crime in Gotham, like Batman the animated series.
Batman: “So, you’re here to arrest me?”
Tiffany: “I’m not that crazy.”
Good call tiff good call
Tbh, the headbutt was far more dramatic, better than high voltage in the conclusion
Vigilante joker might just be the best thing about this entire game 😆
One of the only tragic and sympathetic versions of Joker ever done. This version actually is insane rather than the evil man faking insanity that most Jokers are. Even though I prefer purely evil Jokers this one was good.
BEST GAME EVER! I'm praying for season 3!
Vampire Girl sadly, TellTale shutdown
Joker looks better than the villain path because he looks amazingly accurate in this one
It means that bruce frees jonh by buying his way to get him out of arkham😂😂
Its Thomas Elliot
I was crying my eyes out at the end
Dang that ending Batman vs Joker fight was brutal. This is definitely the best episode of the season imo
I liked this episode, except for the fact that Bruce was such a jerk to Selina because of previous choices! 😭
I didn't have to sacrifice those choices. Weird...
Because in the previous choice, if you pick blame Catwoman, it will happen like this in the video. But you pick blow up your cover, this won’t happen.
It's because the player is one of the worst players I ever saw. His choices are terrible.
Oh my goodness. This level has never reached that high before.
Riddler kills Lucius Fox,
Bane's debut along with the Pact's identity,
About 74% of Gotham seized control by the Agency,
John becomes The Joker,
And now- Tiffany's a sniper behind the death of The Riddler?
Exactly how much of an scale 1 to 10 of how worst this event takes place for our point of view? And also what is your suggestions?
worse*
--what are your suggestions?*
uncut guy Your fucking English is so horrendous I have no idea what you're trying to covey.
I guess John or Joker is more like an anti-hero than actually a hero at least in where Joker is trustworthy to Batman. Although it still is a sad ending for him either way.
Yes he is but there is still hope for him.