Yes, I do appreciate the weights and measurements a second time and where they’re placed. I think this type of layout is still my preferred in travel trailers. I still enjoy and appreciate your videos the most. I feel that you provide the best realistic views. Please keep up the awesome job “Nerd.”
Now this is a TT that I would buy if we were TT people and had a smaller full-sized truck. The floor plan is superb, rear kitchen is great and it has a nice sized shower. Great couples TT.
It’s over 27’, is that not enough? If you’ve camped you know longer RV’s get refused from some national parks, some campgrounds and even roads, etc. They start blocking entry at 26’ for trailers, 30’ for 5th wheels.
Thank you Josh!!!!! I was waiting for more alternatives and this one looks really good to me! I love the whole trailers! As is! We do prefer the “ knee knocker “ table because we don’t like to do and undo a floating table all the time. The three seater sofa recliner is fantastic to have the grandkids next to me for a movie 🍿 and the storage is plenary but not excessive! Don’t love the ladder for the bedroom coming inside… I would swap it for an under folding one to keep more dirt out. Definitely a new Fan/Fan-for the bathroom . Love the awning and the water features!!! For the most part looks ready to run!!! 💕👏
Hello Josh! I really like this model and layout in 99% of this! Some swap outs for me:1) I would change the bedroom ladder for the conventional style, as this could be folded up while at the campsite to give more room under an open awning. 2) The old scissor style stabilizers need to be upgraded to the leg-lowering design like are on Jayco campers. 3) Would also get the max-air fan for the bathroom as a standard feature. Overall though, this is a very well designed model in a mid range price point model.....well done Alliance! Thank You Josh for the great in-depth coverage of this model's features and benefits! All the Best! ~Lou
Hey Josh, You mentioned a few months back about a Brinkley I Series that would most likely be a lighter version of their products. Any updates? Thanks Nerd!
This camper is about exactly what I would like to get set up into. Great mix of lighter weight by not adding too many frills but also having the really nice ones that really add to the convenience. PS. I do like having the Numbers "plastered" on the screen a second time as they are a major factor for some of us. 👍
Hey Uncle Josh, I hope you're having a great day! I do wish that they would put two towers of power on the kitchen counter on each side of the sink. My reason for saying that is I have never seen a coffee maker with a long power cord on it,it has always been a short cord! I do like how they have the inside of this Delta setup. With this being a couples camper it doesn't bother me to have to walk through the bathroom to get to the bedroom. I'm glad that it's not super dark an not super light like a doctors office. The medium colors that they are using makes it feel like a small home. I'm glad that you have plenty of space in the shower to be able to turn around in it. I'm glad that you get a skylight in the shower so you don't have to bend down to far to take a shower. I'm glad the overhead storage above the bed has struts to hold them up. I do like that you can get on both sides of the bed. I do like that you have two entry doors, plus I like you won't get spritz by rain going into or out of the bedroom entry door unlike the entry door at the kitchen. Thank you Uncle Josh for showing us and giving us all the information on this Delta travel trailer. Your number one fan an friend Leonard from North Carolina. #NERDHERD!!!!😎😃🤘🐒🐕🐶🐺🐱🐈🦁🐅🐅🐯🐼🐼🐨🐻🐍🐲🐉🐊🐊😎😄😅😎
This is a very nice trailer in my opinion. Definitely one I could live with for the 100 or so nights that we spend travelling around in ours. Certainly of a size that keeps our state, provincial and national parks. safe travels...
Josh, can you do a video sometime on the different types of slides. Is there any that you can use while the slide is not extended? Maybe you have already done a video on that. Thanks for the help Sir.
For a lighter camper it has some good stuff. Like all of the storage. Inside that this is a cheaper camper. Love the black out Shad’s. Nice to see a door side window. Like the bathroom. Like the bedroom. Thank you josh?
👍🏼⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍🏽 Added this to my list of RV’s that just might woik! Thank you for all you do! Well thought out, looks beautiful, and well designed! On the front nose cap, the entire point is to reduce the chances of water intrusion, if it doesn’t wrap 1-4 inches around to the side… it’s like a screen door on a submarine. I’d like to know the shower measurements! And yes, the more stats the better! Sure, a waste of time for those just browsing, but as a sales tool, needed!
Yeah, we like this Alliance Travel Trailer, but we also like the rear kitchens 5th Wheels of the Rockwood brand. ❤ 🥰 😍 🤩 Uncle Josh, your singing is PHENOMENAL 🤗 🤗 🤗 🤗 🤗 I bet that your daughter would ❤ LOVE ❤️ to put on a daughter daddy skit for her school. That would be totally AWESOME!!! You are that GREAT Uncle Josh!!! ❤ Please give everyone a hug for me. Thank you, Uncle Josh, I appreciate that!!! ❤❤❤ ❤ your friend, Didi, 😄🐈🐕🦺⚘️🌹
Wonder if they did that, make the pantry a little more shallow, shift the door towards the shower & more the toilet to the other side, that would make road mode super easy.
I really appreciate and love the second volley of weights and measures….very helpful 😊👌👍especially since I really don’t want another note on a new truck and want to use my paid off 2019 2.7 liter eco boost F-150 STX-- your video reviews are the best by far. Thanx!
Omg That was fantastic Keep the impromptu singing going Can't believe you didn't get a singing contract LOL Love your videos I like all your videos Very informative and . . .SQUIRREL . . . .Your rule NERD
I have been looking at a lot of RV's that would fit the bill for my F150. This is definitely in the top 3. I like the fact that they are using the rack & pinion slede mech. I'm not sold on the 12v fridge but that seems to be the standard these days. I hope Alliance will address some of the quality issues I have been reading on the owners group I follow.
Like the stats to be redisplayed, as well as road mode, bathroom "selfies" to show actual use (well almost 😂). And, as usual, the humor makes your videos so enjoyable.
Hi Josh, I do appreciate all the info as many times as you want to include it, and today July 28th 2024, the link for pricing, does not provide pricing for the RV, FYI, perhaps is not out as of yet
Wow, this is nearly like my Imagine 23LDE but improved in many ways. Please beg them to get rid of those stable steps. At minimum, get rid of the bedroom one and go to a folding step. Having that stable step in the bedroom is going to bed the bedding and floor filthy from dust and wetness. Additionally, if you don't want to deploy the step, you can't get around the bed. It needs to go!
Hi Josh, thanks for the great review. Yes on the weights and measures screen. I'm not clear on where all the weight savings is coming from compared to a regular Delta. Is the drop-frame, which give the Delta a bit more pass-thru storage the main difference? Other than that and 1 AC unit instead of 2, it seems like the frame and shell are the same, the cabinets and bed construction are the same, the tires and running gear are the same (actually you said the tires are the same, are the axles or hangers different?)... At least compared to the Delta I'm 99% set on, the slide is shallower, so I guess that shaves off a bit of weight and cost.
Great video, as always. I think this one is going to be my next RV. You answered some questions I had before driving a distance to go look at one. Thank you!
I really love this one. Our truck will be able to tow this. Hoping to see it in person at the Tampa RV show in 2025. We so enjoy your videos. Yes on post weight two times.
Definitely keep the second set of weights and measures. Helps to remind me when you are talking about the outside. I like this one. Definitely on the list for next year....I am looking forward to the fall rv shows to check out some of these live and in person. And now back to Josh...
I really enjoy your videos Josh, and appreciate you giving the pros and cons you feel are important. I’ve owned campers in the past and would like to do so again, once I can get my partner “on board” so to speak. I live outside Traverse City where there is one of your shops so following through on a purchase at some point will be very easy. ;) Thanks again for all of your enjoyable and informative videos.
I also appreciate your weights and measures information as well as your space information in the bathroom. The reason we watch RUclips videos on campers is to gather information in one place if possible. This model is nice but it lacks the second bedroom window needed for cross ventilation and that is a deal killer for me. I wish someone would produce a door that had a window you could open somehow. Maybe I am misremembering but I thought older campers had doors with windows that opened. Love it otherwise except the usb port on the side of the couch.
Yes, post weights/measures twice. I like this rig a lot, addinig it to the (wish)list. And, yes, we like seeing if ur butt fits on the toilet. We take bets on it.
Love the floor plan! Wish it had a bar top/ work station instead of a dinette and I’m not a fan of having a door in the bedroom. But still a awesome camper!
I would love to see the front step get a traditional flip step instead of the stable steps. Since there is a stable for the rear main kitchen entry, the quick travel stop flip step would be nice.
Very nice rig. Much like our GD XLS23LDE. I would love the drawer storage in the pantry but prefer our little counter with drawers and shoe cubby next to the door. Love the bigger sofa with recliners. Alliance is really impressing me though I am pretty sure we are in our last camper 😵we haven't got many years left 😜
Love the second round of weights and measures…..also as we are in the market for this very floor plan, we can’t wait for you to review the 2025 Jay Feather 23RK…..I believe it will come down you one of three….GD 23LDE, the 23RK or this one….waiting to see the new 23RK…thanks again
@@JoshtheRVNerd What you do and say means a lot and goes a long way for us, keep up the great work and look forward to seeing more of what you do. Thanks again
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, this might be out of line to ask but in your upcoming review of the updated 2025 Jay Feather 23RK can you confirm the availability of the king bed option….local dealer is saying no but the website says it is available….just trying to get the best answers in comparing floor plans and we have a dealer that is only interested in selling a 2024….thank you in advance
I really like this one. Stable steps at both doors. Rear kitchen and good storage. Good bath and bedroom storage and plenty of room for a -Pap. No outside kitchen--yay. Now, if I could get it without lounge seating and microwave it would all be terrific. And worth it's price. I'll have to see about availbility release and the rest. I've been waiting for something like this without so much compromise. Thanks, Josh.
We love our rear kitchen rig! I believe Alliance did an awesome job with this rear kitchen setup! We love the walk-through bath, I just works for us! Thank you Josh! Oh BTW stick to the weights/measurements the second time, I like it!
Josh, Alliance is a refreshing new manufacturer with so many positive features👍but with newer and better alternatives available, it’s inexcusable to have to deal with those 50 year old double knee knocking dinette posts in ANY RV😢
Loving this one! For this floor plan, I think this is the one to get. I do like the weights and capacities twice in the video! Love the larger couch, that's a nice change compared to others. Would like of the center seat folded down for arm rest/cup holders but that's minimal. Love the kitchen layout for the extra storage with the fridge and pantry not being on that back wall. While I'm taller, at least the skylight is basically the full size of the shower so headroom isn't really a big deal as far as I'm concerned. Thank you for the permanent ladder!! While the collapsible ladders work, I greatly prefer a ladder that I don't have to store or put in place when I want to use it. All in all, this is what I've been waiting for from alliance! A smaller half ton-able couples leaning camper with everything great about alliance with a slightly more price minded build.
I wish every RV manufacturer would install laguna movable tables or give you the option for us fluffy guys!! The tables like these with these style of post are an immediate no go for me!!!
Just a residential table and chairs or sofa/theater seating “option” for the Denny’s diner booth dinette and a quality porcelain toilet and bathroom fart fan from perfection👍
Yes to the weights and measures on screen, x2. Are you kidding!? Toilet selfie is a MUST that help one to decide if the camper is a hard 'NO'...or to be considered. Love this model. I don't mind and prefer a walk-through bathroom IF the model is not a rear bath (where most a really big) Most other baths are just too small (for my family.) This is a great looking camper. I appreciate everything you show and demonstrate, Josh. 😀👍
@@JoshtheRVNerd NP, BTW I love your reviews, thorough, informative, neutral. Just the best!! Keep it up please. On this model I already sent a request to Alliance after watching this saying, hey, add the rear kitchen model to your full Delta line, couples RV as you dont have one. Otherwise I think the 252RL will have to be my runner up layout.
You’re the best nerd…I mean Josh. I like the split screen. Weights and measurements twice is a must and the way you do pottie selfie and whack-a-head in the shower for comparison, absolute musts. Your videos and the info in them are what’s helping my wife decide on which trailer. Keep up the good work big booty Rudy!
We own the Delta 262RB and couldn't be happier with it. I tow with my 2022 Ford F-150 half ton and it tows really well. I do like the ultra lite version of this trailer and would have considered it if it were available at the time but all in all we feel we made a good investment with the Alliance Delta. They have a lot of unique features and it is a quality built travel trailer. Also my dealer and Alliance have been a pleasure to deal with.
Thanks Nerd! I like seeing the weights and measures a 2nd time, but I am okay if they are not included, I go back and look at them. Really nice camper!! Alliance is doing great things 🎆
Great review - you still easily do the best reviews on RUclips! However, I’d love to see a complete list of differences between this new line and the Delta. As you were talking outside about the differences, I noticed the front passage doors have slam latches on the Delta, and the cheaper locks on the new line. As well, it looks like a plastic toilet? The “$40” for the door shade - especially in the bedroom is a must. I get they’re trying to hit a price point, but that extra $40 seems like a no brainer. A shoe garage at the front door under the booth would also be nice. Having said all that, this trailer has jumped high on my list to check out for our next option… they’re doing so many things right (all that you mentioned). Again, great (entertaining!) review as usual.
Really like Alliance making a halfton towable version of this floor plan. We were leaning towards the Grand Design verion before seeing. With just 1 AC unit, I suppose another difference with big brother Delta is 30 amp vs. 50 amp. Is a bedroom AC an opition? If not, how well is the bedroom fitted with AC vents? GD's bedroom AC design is my hesitation on the GD.
Thank you Josh, really appreciate your walk throughs. On this model we wonder if it could have option for fold up steps in bedroom door. (Not stabilizer). Also, it would be great if they considered European style windows, understanding it would cost more. Would live to see more manufacturers have this as options.
Love this model. Will probably be what we purchase next. I think it needs power stab jacks and porcelain toilet. I understand keeping the weight and price down but would add those as well as MaxxAir fans. Thanks for the great walk through and keep the toilet selfies going!
I really like this travel trailer floor plan! I like everything, but I don’t like the plastic sofa and I’m not thrilled with the same plastic on the dining benches. I wished they would give us options in fabric and sofa styles. Otherwise, it’s beautiful!
Travel access would be easily fixed by mirroring/flipping the bathroom and doors (front to back). The door would also perfectly line up between the couch and pantry in "road mode"
I really like this one. A step up in quality of materials from many similar layout campers, and hopefully, less aggravation. I wonder if the living space gets to feel a bit cramped with the mid bathroom rather than the usual end bathroom and open layout end to end. Need to check this one out.
Something I don't really care about is the second door by the bedroom. Why is there one? Is it just so you can access the bathroom while traveling? It actually would save weight if there would be only a window. Could a door be an option instead of a standard?
Great video! I would like to see a stink tube storage maybe 2 one for the front and one for the drain in the back. Also add the 2nd ac standard, like it’s bigger brothers. The rear wall kitchen is great. This trailer is on my short list. Now if I could see it in person.
Doesn't the nose cap provide better aerodynamics? I have been reading lately that the fuel savings can be worth spending more on a trailer with lower drag. What do you say to that subject Josh?
Great looking camper. I would get rid of the fold in steps in the bedroom, limits access while in and having them is harder for rest stop access. Solar standard adds money and not everyone wants solar, stop forcing it on us. Don't need or want it. The other thing would be get rid of the oven and add a drawer. Those are 3 changes that would make this more appealing.
Tv is to high, table has knee knocker legs, not off to a good start there. No one should ever put doors on the under bench storage, it should be a drawer. The under bed storage needs a drawer or open with baskets rather than a lift. Yes, I like to review the specs again during the tour. Good job with the stable steps at both doors. Move the ladder to the drivers side and then move the water heater to the rear. Good job with the awning and slide controls with outside access.
Nailed it!!! (Mostly). L - ❤️ - V - E It!! (Mostly) 1) Clarification? Laminated kitchen walls means easy clean up, correct? No need for a backsplash? If not, then it needs a backsplash. 2) Second flashing of the weights & measures are fine. As you get older you forget or we don’t comprehend the first look as we are paying attention to what you are saying and showing to be reading. 3) I didn’t see a stinky sewer hose storage container. Is there one or do you have to roll it up in its own bag for basement storage? 4) Another one for the infinity list of 37 of purchase possibilities.
It’s not my preference and a symptom of working ahead of the curve before stuff actually releases. That’ll resolve with time and our local folks can assist meanwhile
Yes, I do appreciate the weights and measurements a second time and where they’re placed. I think this type of layout is still my preferred in travel trailers. I still enjoy and appreciate your videos the most. I feel that you provide the best realistic views. Please keep up the awesome job “Nerd.”
This good to know. Ty
Now this is a TT that I would buy if we were TT people and had a smaller full-sized truck. The floor plan is superb, rear kitchen is great and it has a nice sized shower. Great couples TT.
Awesome Ty
like this camper… quick drop stabilizers and a single gray/black tank system would be nice
👍🏻 agreed
Just wanted to say that I really appreciate your toilet selfie mode. I’m a large person with IBS, the toilet space is MUST KNOW information
Sir Thomas Crapper would be proud and happy you're relieved.
Well Ty for that!
@@JoshtheRVNerdcan you do a review of 2025 Jay Flight SLX 333BTS please. Blessings and Peace ✝️❤️
Love you put the weights and measures up twice and also love when you close the slide. You rock, Josh!🇨🇦❤️
Awesome good to know!!
A little smaller than i can stand but I like how Alliance and Brinkley are pulling the entire RV industry forward.
It’s over 27’, is that not enough? If you’ve camped you know longer RV’s get refused from some national parks, some campgrounds and even roads, etc. They start blocking entry at 26’ for trailers, 30’ for 5th wheels.
@@Erin-Thor I am 6'3". I don't want to duck through the entire trailer.
@@Jayhawk226 I believe he said interior is 6'6"
Thank you Josh!!!!! I was waiting for more alternatives and this one looks really good to me! I love the whole trailers! As is!
We do prefer the “ knee knocker “ table because we don’t like to do and undo a floating table all the time.
The three seater sofa recliner is fantastic to have the grandkids next to me for a movie 🍿 and the storage is plenary but not excessive! Don’t love the ladder for the bedroom coming inside… I would swap it for an under folding one to keep more dirt out.
Definitely a new Fan/Fan-for the bathroom . Love the awning and the water features!!!
For the most part looks ready to run!!! 💕👏
Awesome! Glad it’s checking boxes for you!
Hello Josh! I really like this model and layout in 99% of this! Some swap outs for me:1) I would change the bedroom ladder for the conventional style, as this could be folded up while at the campsite to give more room under an open awning. 2) The old scissor style stabilizers need to be upgraded to the leg-lowering design like are on Jayco campers. 3) Would also get the max-air fan for the bathroom as a standard feature. Overall though, this is a very well designed model in a mid range price point model.....well done Alliance! Thank You Josh for the great in-depth coverage of this model's features and benefits! All the Best! ~Lou
Ooh I do like those quick drop stabilizers
Hey Josh, You mentioned a few months back about a Brinkley I Series that would most likely be a lighter version of their products. Any updates? Thanks Nerd!
Nothing concrete yet but we are getting closer
This camper is about exactly what I would like to get set up into. Great mix of lighter weight by not adding too many frills but also having the really nice ones that really add to the convenience. PS. I do like having the Numbers "plastered" on the screen a second time as they are a major factor for some of us. 👍
Glad you like it! Ty
Me too!
Hey Uncle Josh, I hope you're having a great day! I do wish that they would put two towers of power on the kitchen counter on each side of the sink. My reason for saying that is I have never seen a coffee maker with a long power cord on it,it has always been a short cord! I do like how they have the inside of this Delta setup. With this being a couples camper it doesn't bother me to have to walk through the bathroom to get to the bedroom. I'm glad that it's not super dark an not super light like a doctors office. The medium colors that they are using makes it feel like a small home. I'm glad that you have plenty of space in the shower to be able to turn around in it. I'm glad that you get a skylight in the shower so you don't have to bend down to far to take a shower. I'm glad the overhead storage above the bed has struts to hold them up. I do like that you can get on both sides of the bed. I do like that you have two entry doors, plus I like you won't get spritz by rain going into or out of the bedroom entry door unlike the entry door at the kitchen. Thank you Uncle Josh for showing us and giving us all the information on this Delta travel trailer. Your number one fan an friend Leonard from North Carolina. #NERDHERD!!!!😎😃🤘🐒🐕🐶🐺🐱🐈🦁🐅🐅🐯🐼🐼🐨🐻🐍🐲🐉🐊🐊😎😄😅😎
Appreciate road mode, toilet selfies and specs. You take the guess work out of the "can I?"
Awesome good to know. All those extra things like showing storage and road mode basically double my work time
Nice trailer and yes I like the sizes being put on screen at end to remind me. At that point I've definitely need yes I like it, nope I not flrme
This is a very nice trailer in my opinion. Definitely one I could live with for the 100 or so nights that we spend travelling around in ours. Certainly of a size that keeps our state, provincial and national parks. safe travels...
Josh, can you do a video sometime on the different types of slides. Is there any that you can use while the slide is not extended? Maybe you have already done a video on that. Thanks for the help Sir.
I believe he has a video talking about the main 3 styles of slide.
I have several slide based videos. Some new systems in place now. I need to make an updated version
For a lighter camper it has some good stuff. Like all of the storage. Inside that this is a cheaper camper. Love the black out Shad’s. Nice to see a door side window. Like the bathroom. Like the bedroom. Thank you josh?
Ty! My pleasure!
Definitely appreciate the weights and measures on there twice!
👍🏼⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍🏽 Added this to my list of RV’s that just might woik! Thank you for all you do! Well thought out, looks beautiful, and well designed! On the front nose cap, the entire point is to reduce the chances of water intrusion, if it doesn’t wrap 1-4 inches around to the side… it’s like a screen door on a submarine. I’d like to know the shower measurements! And yes, the more stats the better! Sure, a waste of time for those just browsing, but as a sales tool, needed!
lol is it weird I read woik without missing a beat?
@@JoshtheRVNerd - Nah, it’s just a woid. 🤓
This is a perfect destination trailer for a single senior ❤ would like a different table
Yeah, we like this Alliance Travel Trailer, but we also like the rear kitchens 5th Wheels of the Rockwood brand. ❤ 🥰 😍 🤩
Uncle Josh, your singing is PHENOMENAL 🤗 🤗 🤗 🤗 🤗
I bet that your daughter would ❤ LOVE ❤️ to put on a daughter daddy skit for her school. That would be totally AWESOME!!! You are that GREAT Uncle Josh!!! ❤
Please give everyone a hug for me. Thank you, Uncle Josh, I appreciate that!!! ❤❤❤
❤ your friend,
Didi, 😄🐈🐕🦺⚘️🌹
Here’s a song my band used to play. Original tune! ruclips.net/video/rTRGcbBuZo8/видео.html
Put in a dining bar/desk and get rid of the dinette, and I think I'd have a new favorite.
Wonder if they did that, make the pantry a little more shallow, shift the door towards the shower & more the toilet to the other side, that would make road mode super easy.
Totally agree with this.
I’d love to see it
@@RothePhoenix Keep the entry way drawers though.
I really appreciate and love the second volley of weights and measures….very helpful 😊👌👍especially since I really don’t want another note on a new truck and want to use my paid off 2019 2.7 liter eco boost F-150 STX-- your video reviews are the best by far. Thanx!
Wow awesome Ty
Omg That was fantastic Keep the impromptu singing going Can't believe you didn't get a singing contract LOL Love your videos I like all your videos Very informative and . . .SQUIRREL . . . .Your rule NERD
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I have been looking at a lot of RV's that would fit the bill for my F150. This is definitely in the top 3. I like the fact that they are using the rack & pinion slede mech. I'm not sold on the 12v fridge but that seems to be the standard these days. I hope Alliance will address some of the quality issues I have been reading on the owners group I follow.
Which group is that? I’m in a bunch and I see hiccups now and then but I also see the factory jumping on stuff
Like the stats to be redisplayed, as well as road mode, bathroom "selfies" to show actual use (well almost 😂). And, as usual, the humor makes your videos so enjoyable.
Thanks for the tips!
Hi Josh, I do appreciate all the info as many times as you want to include it, and today July 28th 2024, the link for pricing, does not provide pricing for the RV, FYI, perhaps is not out as of yet
Yeah I got this one out ahead of the curve sorry
Wow, this is nearly like my Imagine 23LDE but improved in many ways. Please beg them to get rid of those stable steps. At minimum, get rid of the bedroom one and go to a folding step. Having that stable step in the bedroom is going to bed the bedding and floor filthy from dust and wetness. Additionally, if you don't want to deploy the step, you can't get around the bed. It needs to go!
Great feedback. Ty
Hi Josh, thanks for the great review. Yes on the weights and measures screen. I'm not clear on where all the weight savings is coming from compared to a regular Delta. Is the drop-frame, which give the Delta a bit more pass-thru storage the main difference? Other than that and 1 AC unit instead of 2, it seems like the frame and shell are the same, the cabinets and bed construction are the same, the tires and running gear are the same (actually you said the tires are the same, are the axles or hangers different?)... At least compared to the Delta I'm 99% set on, the slide is shallower, so I guess that shaves off a bit of weight and cost.
It’s shorter length, shorter ceiling, non-drip frame, no heavy nose cap
Great video, as always. I think this one is going to be my next RV. You answered some questions I had before driving a distance to go look at one. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I really love this one. Our truck will be able to tow this. Hoping to see it in person at the Tampa RV show in 2025. We so enjoy your videos. Yes on post weight two times.
Ty
Definitely keep the second set of weights and measures. Helps to remind me when you are talking about the outside. I like this one. Definitely on the list for next year....I am looking forward to the fall rv shows to check out some of these live and in person. And now back to Josh...
Will do!
I really enjoy your videos Josh, and appreciate you giving the pros and cons you feel are important. I’ve owned campers in the past and would like to do so again, once I can get my partner “on board” so to speak. I live outside Traverse City where there is one of your shops so following through on a purchase at some point will be very easy. ;) Thanks again for all of your enjoyable and informative videos.
That store also carries alliance models like these so you'll easily be able to see one in person as well!
I also appreciate your weights and measures information as well as your space information in the bathroom. The reason we watch RUclips videos on campers is to gather information in one place if possible.
This model is nice but it lacks the second bedroom window needed for cross ventilation and that is a deal killer for me. I wish someone would produce a door that had a window you could open somehow. Maybe I am misremembering but I thought older campers had doors with windows that opened. Love it otherwise except the usb port on the side of the couch.
I don’t remember bedroom doors with opening windows but I could be mistaken..
Great Layout. They need to improve the solar and have an option for an inverter for off grid.
👍🏻 TY
I can't wait to see what else they come up with. This is very nice, and marks alot of boxes for me! And such a great size.
I totally agree!
Yes, post weights/measures twice. I like this rig a lot, addinig it to the (wish)list. And, yes, we like seeing if ur butt fits on the toilet. We take bets on it.
😆 wild man
Love the floor plan! Wish it had a bar top/ work station instead of a dinette and I’m not a fan of having a door in the bedroom. But still a awesome camper!
Thank you for sharing
I would love to see the front step get a traditional flip step instead of the stable steps. Since there is a stable for the rear main kitchen entry, the quick travel stop flip step would be nice.
Great suggestion!
Power stabilizer would be nice upgrade
Not a fan of the walk-through bathroom on any brand. Would only consider it if the toilet was separate and behind its own door.
Try the jay feather 23RK instead. Has the bathroom you prefer
U gota know weights to know if it works w your truck
To answer your question, yes please continue to post the weights and measures twice.
Thanks Josh
Will do!
Very nice rig. Much like our GD XLS23LDE. I would love the drawer storage in the pantry but prefer our little counter with drawers and shoe cubby next to the door. Love the bigger sofa with recliners. Alliance is really impressing me though I am pretty sure we are in our last camper 😵we haven't got many years left 😜
The that LDE is spawning clones for sure
@@JoshtheRVNerd yup. Great floor plan, just perfect for us.
What if there was no slide and no dinette? Keep the couch, counter seating at the window? Lighter and cheaper?
Not impossible.. interesting idea
Pretty dynamite couples rv as is Also appreciate the double info.
Awesome good to know
Really nice unit.
Love having the weights and measurements on the screen.
Glad you like it!
Not bad. Wish the bedroom had a wardrobe slide…just saying…
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Love the second round of weights and measures…..also as we are in the market for this very floor plan, we can’t wait for you to review the 2025 Jay Feather 23RK…..I believe it will come down you one of three….GD 23LDE, the 23RK or this one….waiting to see the new 23RK…thanks again
I have been thru the 2025 feather. Looking great. Video is done but it’ll take some time for me to get it out
@@JoshtheRVNerd What you do and say means a lot and goes a long way for us, keep up the great work and look forward to seeing more of what you do. Thanks again
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, this might be out of line to ask but in your upcoming review of the updated 2025 Jay Feather 23RK can you confirm the availability of the king bed option….local dealer is saying no but the website says it is available….just trying to get the best answers in comparing floor plans and we have a dealer that is only interested in selling a 2024….thank you in advance
I really like this one. Stable steps at both doors. Rear kitchen and good storage. Good bath and bedroom storage and plenty of room for a -Pap. No outside kitchen--yay. Now, if I could get it without lounge seating and microwave it would all be terrific. And worth it's price. I'll have to see about availbility release and the rest. I've been waiting for something like this without so much compromise. Thanks, Josh.
Pantry is useless for me...drawers hold minimal items. Prefer shelving...guess I keep looking. 😅
No doubt a waste
We love our rear kitchen rig! I believe Alliance did an awesome job with this rear kitchen setup! We love the walk-through bath, I just works for us! Thank you Josh! Oh BTW stick to the weights/measurements the second time, I like it!
Awesome! Thank you!
Josh, Alliance is a refreshing new manufacturer with so many positive features👍but with newer and better alternatives available, it’s inexcusable to have to deal with those 50 year old double knee knocking dinette posts in ANY RV😢
@Josh
Thanks for starting to review the 2025 models! We asked and you delivered! Thanks for what you do it’s greatly appreciated
My pleasure!
Loving this one! For this floor plan, I think this is the one to get. I do like the weights and capacities twice in the video!
Love the larger couch, that's a nice change compared to others. Would like of the center seat folded down for arm rest/cup holders but that's minimal.
Love the kitchen layout for the extra storage with the fridge and pantry not being on that back wall.
While I'm taller, at least the skylight is basically the full size of the shower so headroom isn't really a big deal as far as I'm concerned.
Thank you for the permanent ladder!! While the collapsible ladders work, I greatly prefer a ladder that I don't have to store or put in place when I want to use it.
All in all, this is what I've been waiting for from alliance! A smaller half ton-able couples leaning camper with everything great about alliance with a slightly more price minded build.
Reminds me of my favorite RV:
Grand Design Imagine XLS 23LDE!!! 👍
It’s very much modeled after that 23LDE
Definitely like the weights and measurements on screen
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I wish every RV manufacturer would install laguna movable tables or give you the option for us fluffy guys!! The tables like these with these style of post are an immediate no go for me!!!
Normally I don't like slides. But this one isn't very wide and is a good type of slide. Plus I like the length of trailer.
Love love love it 😍
Just a residential table and chairs or sofa/theater seating “option” for the Denny’s diner booth dinette and a quality porcelain toilet and bathroom fart fan from perfection👍
Yes to the weights and measures on screen, x2. Are you kidding!? Toilet selfie is a MUST that help one to decide if the camper is a hard 'NO'...or to be considered. Love this model. I don't mind and prefer a walk-through bathroom IF the model is not a rear bath (where most a really big) Most other baths are just too small (for my family.) This is a great looking camper. I appreciate everything you show and demonstrate, Josh. 😀👍
Awesome Ty so much:)
If it was 6' 9" that you teased us with, it would be the ideal TT for us.
yeah I'm sorry about that. I got ahead of myself I think
@@JoshtheRVNerd NP, BTW I love your reviews, thorough, informative, neutral. Just the best!! Keep it up please. On this model I already sent a request to Alliance after watching this saying, hey, add the rear kitchen model to your full Delta line, couples RV as you dont have one. Otherwise I think the 252RL will have to be my runner up layout.
I love this set up. Only thing I would change is the dinette. I'd take it out and put a entertainment stand.
You’re the best nerd…I mean Josh. I like the split screen. Weights and measurements twice is a must and the way you do pottie selfie and whack-a-head in the shower for comparison, absolute musts. Your videos and the info in them are what’s helping my wife decide on which trailer. Keep up the good work big booty Rudy!
lol Ty Ty
We own the Delta 262RB and couldn't be happier with it. I tow with my 2022 Ford F-150 half ton and it tows really well. I do like the ultra lite version of this trailer and would have considered it if it were available at the time but all in all we feel we made a good investment with the Alliance Delta. They have a lot of unique features and it is a quality built travel trailer. Also my dealer and Alliance have been a pleasure to deal with.
That’s fantastic to hear! Thank you for sharing
Thanks Nerd! I like seeing the weights and measures a 2nd time, but I am okay if they are not included, I go back and look at them. Really nice camper!! Alliance is doing great things 🎆
Noted! Ty
Everything you need, without super expensive equipment that you might not even use.
I was excited with this one!
Full access in road mode.
You and me both!
Why do RV designers think people sit at a 90° angle when they are at a table?
#RVNerdHerd 🎉 😊 🎉
Get rid of table so I can slide Raff’s House in, and I like this one. Just right for Hubby, me and FID.
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Great review - you still easily do the best reviews on RUclips! However, I’d love to see a complete list of differences between this new line and the Delta. As you were talking outside about the differences, I noticed the front passage doors have slam latches on the Delta, and the cheaper locks on the new line. As well, it looks like a plastic toilet? The “$40” for the door shade - especially in the bedroom is a must. I get they’re trying to hit a price point, but that extra $40 seems like a no brainer. A shoe garage at the front door under the booth would also be nice. Having said all that, this trailer has jumped high on my list to check out for our next option… they’re doing so many things right (all that you mentioned). Again, great (entertaining!) review as usual.
I'll see if I can make a comparison video sometime actually. That's a good call
Really like Alliance making a halfton towable version of this floor plan. We were leaning towards the Grand Design verion before seeing. With just 1 AC unit, I suppose another difference with big brother Delta is 30 amp vs. 50 amp. Is a bedroom AC an opition? If not, how well is the bedroom fitted with AC vents? GD's bedroom AC design is my hesitation on the GD.
I don’t think a second air is available on these but I don’t have my options list available to me right here
Thank you Josh, really appreciate your walk throughs. On this model we wonder if it could have option for fold up steps in bedroom door. (Not stabilizer). Also, it would be great if they considered European style windows, understanding it would cost more. Would live to see more manufacturers have this as options.
Hm.. I think stable steps might be able to fit..
Love this model. Will probably be what we purchase next. I think it needs power stab jacks and porcelain toilet. I understand keeping the weight and price down but would add those as well as MaxxAir fans. Thanks for the great walk through and keep the toilet selfies going!
It's tricky. There's always that ONE thing someone really wants. And they're GOOD things
I really like this travel trailer floor plan! I like everything, but I don’t like the plastic sofa and I’m not thrilled with the same plastic on the dining benches. I wished they would give us options in fabric and sofa styles. Otherwise, it’s beautiful!
Jayco 23rk is fabric decor with similar layout btw
I like the specs on the screen twice - very helpful
Good to know!
I like this one since it is more ‘my truck’ compatible
I like the second weight and measure screen.
Good to know. Ty
Travel access would be easily fixed by mirroring/flipping the bathroom and doors (front to back). The door would also perfectly line up between the couch and pantry in "road mode"
Whats the issue with travel access? You have a entry door into the kitchen and one into the bed and bathroom.
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I really like this one. A step up in quality of materials from many similar layout campers, and hopefully, less aggravation. I wonder if the living space gets to feel a bit cramped with the mid bathroom rather than the usual end bathroom and open layout end to end. Need to check this one out.
Curious what you think when you do
Something I don't really care about is the second door by the bedroom. Why is there one? Is it just so you can access the bathroom while traveling?
It actually would save weight if there would be only a window. Could a door be an option instead of a standard?
2nd door is for access in travel yes
I really think this RV is VERY well proportioned and outfitted for the price!
Awesome Ty
Great video! I would like to see a stink tube storage maybe 2 one for the front and one for the drain in the back. Also add the 2nd ac standard, like it’s bigger brothers. The rear wall kitchen is great. This trailer is on my short list. Now if I could see it in person.
I feel like they have a belly sewer tube. I know the full delta does
Doesn't the nose cap provide better aerodynamics? I have been reading lately that the fuel savings can be worth spending more on a trailer with lower drag. What do you say to that subject Josh?
Not really. Common myth persisting from old market advertising efforts.
Nice unit, but I can’t do the lower roof.
Josh, you owe me a new set of AirPods, no more singing please? 😂
#nerdherd🎉
No promises
Theres a guy deep in Texas doing RV reviews similar to your channel. Jose the RV nerd. Is this a spinoff of your channel?
No. Totally unrelated
Great looking camper. I would get rid of the fold in steps in the bedroom, limits access while in and having them is harder for rest stop access. Solar standard adds money and not everyone wants solar, stop forcing it on us. Don't need or want it. The other thing would be get rid of the oven and add a drawer. Those are 3 changes that would make this more appealing.
TY for this!
Great RV.. but really jash.. u try too hard to be funny
Well shoot, no pricing available. Love the cabinets and that dinette actually looks comfortable! Nice unit.
They may not have started shipping so pricing might not yet be on our site. Our local teams can certainly assist
Josh , I know you like the cougar as your favorite, but does one change your mind a little bit???
Alliance is strong stuff. I wouldn’t turn my nose up at them
Nice camper, thanks for showing us
Thanks for watching!
Tv is to high, table has knee knocker legs, not off to a good start there. No one should ever put doors on the under bench storage, it should be a drawer. The under bed storage needs a drawer or open with baskets rather than a lift. Yes, I like to review the specs again during the tour. Good job with the stable steps at both doors. Move the ladder to the drivers side and then move the water heater to the rear. Good job with the awning and slide controls with outside access.
TY for all the ideas!
I like the stats being posted a second time, please continue to do so. Another great review. Thanks Josh.
Thanks, will do!
I have a question side by side comparison which is better alliance or grand design build quality wise #rvnerd
They’re way more similar than different really. The guy that designed imagine for a long time came to alliance to design these. They’re so so similar
Uncle Josh, I like the weights and measurements at the end as well as the beginning. Thank you as always.
Glad you like them!
Josh, drinking Mountain Dew is considered substance abuse 😂
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I don't understand why on the recliners they put the USB next to your leg,the only worst place than that is under ur butt.
Jayco changing that on some of their models actually
Nailed it!!! (Mostly). L - ❤️ - V - E It!! (Mostly)
1) Clarification? Laminated kitchen walls means easy clean up, correct? No need for a backsplash? If not, then it needs a backsplash.
2) Second flashing of the weights & measures are fine. As you get older you forget or we don’t comprehend the first look as we are paying attention to what you are saying and showing to be reading.
3) I didn’t see a stinky sewer hose storage container. Is there one or do you have to roll it up in its own bag for basement storage?
4) Another one for the infinity list of 37 of purchase possibilities.
1.) no real difference inside. Still the same wall panel
3.) can’t recall.. pretty sure tube is on board
Nothing drives me even crazier than I am then when you provide a link and you have no inventory or pricing.
It’s not my preference and a symptom of working ahead of the curve before stuff actually releases. That’ll resolve with time and our local folks can assist meanwhile
Can you get/use a two-way drain splitter for single hose campsites?
Yeah those definitely exist