You refer to "the rules", for seducation, flirtation, how things changed for you personally and how you met your wife once you learned. Who does one listen to/read for these rules?
Keanu Reeves is a great example of someone who doesn’t need to yell or get out order when explaining himself. He’s always cool, calm, and collected and is highly generous, not only with his money, but his time and attention. He’s definitely someone that young men or just anyone should look up to.
@@Therevolution7 He also lost his pregnant wife and baby to a car accident, and has spent most of his life on a spiritual journey to get over this. As well as his best friend dying at 23 (River Phoenix). You would have to 1.) live a high end actor life and 2.) lose everything (and have to overcome it) to reach his level of spiritual chill. It's very unlikely anyone will be like him; he's in the top .0001 percent OF the top .00001 of people. He's awesome, but...an odd life and a rare gem.
But Keenu Reeves is highly attractive and has had incredible success. it is very hard to introduce into you the type of charisma that Keenu emulates. However, I appreciate him a lot
Keanu Reeves is also very tall and in his youth he was one of the most handsome men. He didn't really have to do anything, women looked at him for 3 seconds and were in love
Yes! Tom nailed it. Woman do want to feel they are the only one that their man wants, desires, and cant contain his strong desire for her, but only for her.
Yet, when he acts upon it, she runs. I believe she has to chase him and coax it from him. She must give her attention with intention and he is responsible to recieve it and then reciprocate.
32:46 which is probably delusional at a GENETIC level, just like seduction probably is for men at a GENETIC level. Realizing, and how to survive this, and be successful at least with ONE other human SUCCESSFULLY and be able to MAINTAIN it for more than 20 minutes seems to be where we stand NOW. FOR ANYONE looks like.
*It’s eye-opening to realize that many women crave someone who knows how to take control in a confident, respectful way. It’s not about being aggressive but about exuding that self-assured energy.*
Very important information from Robert for men: Stay calm, breathe, don't yell, don't be violent, be gentle, be generous with a woman, take responsibility for your mistakes and don't blame others.
As a home schooled I can say my success with women compared to public schoolers is far greater. Human connection is built within us, during school years we gather nothing but insecurities which mess with our built-in perception. As a homeschooler I was primarily focused on my work and hobbies, not many friends, just brothers and sisters to play with. This upbringing has set me up, my flow and conversation is almost effortless, it did take me a couple of years to refine myself in the public world but now social skills combined with concrete personal identity makes me very peculiar compared to regular people. Public school puts filters and resentments on ppl, home school allows kids to find their strengths and weaknesses without societal pressures, which come later on.
@@boethius1812Homeschooling is crapped on by society alot and it is encouraged by the system becoz the public schooling system is the only way that they can get their claws into your child's head and psyche while they are young and tear them down before they get a chance to become strong. Homeschooled kids are often mentally healthier and that's not a co-incidence...
Depends on what your parents are like. In my experience home schooled kids were always hyper sheltered weirdos with god complexes who thought they were so much better and smarter than everyone else
@boethius1812 The opposite is true too. I also did homeschooling. Is saw some children become better equipped socially than the average public school kid, and others become way worse off than a public school kid. It depends on the social opportunities, experiences and social exposure available to the homeschooled kid.
You’ve got to figure in attachment theory; sounds like your family was secure. If you grew up in an alcoholic family, public schools, insane as they are, might have provided moments of true friendship and connection with positive role models
Generosity VS Nice Guy is the key. My 'nice guy' has an agenda of sex or attention depending on the woman. It's definitely trauma induced from childhood and wanting to make mom and dad happy and to stop fighting. It makes you stingy in so many ways. Whereas when I'm being generous there is no real agenda going on. I just want to be there for the person and give more of myself in that moment rather than being stingy with my energy.
Exactly, being nice is people pleasing action. Kindness not so much generosity but can include it. you don't have to kind to her even. Be kind to others show's her you are kind. If you kind to people who serve you then that intrigues her. The man is nice to her but unkind to others is a red flag.
Whoa, never thought of personifying the "nice guy" part of myself. I'm definitely a people pleaser (also stemming from childhood trauma, yuh) and find myself giving all my energy to everyone except myself. Then I'll feel resentful towards others for not doing the same, but like, that's not fair to them, unrealistic, and just not a healthy way to go about things in general. That's my fault/problem though, not theirs. Whenever I start to feel resentful, I can totally just think the "nice guy" is telling me I should dedicate some time to myself. Thanks for sharing homie
wtf is this world coming to. men (myself included) watching videos to learn how to get girls. the fact that these things even exists and are so popular nowadays tells so much about how f'd up the world is becoming. its basically men trying to learn how to be men because they can't act like one being raised in today's age. because women also don't act like women (they are correlated obviously). just the thought of having kids and what kind of life they're gonna be having scares me
wtf is this world coming to. men (myself included) watching videos to learn how to get girls. the fact that these things even exists and are so popular nowadays tells so much about how f'd up the world is becoming. its basically men trying to learn how to be men because they can't act like one being raised in today's age. because women also don't act like women (they are correlated obviously). just the thought of having kids and what kind of life they're gonna be having scares me
Real talk, bro. Nice guy vibes often come with strings attached. Generosity, on the other hand, no hidden agenda. It's about giving without expecting anything in return. Drop the nice guy act, be genuinely generous - that's where the real power is. Keep it real, no strings attached.
In all his podcasts, he interrupts and tells about himself and his problems when he needs to just let the guest talk. He needs to take lessons from his wife and her podcasts
correction... its an interview, where he just spoke the entire time. People are watching this to hear what robert greene, the guest, has to say@@MSA-uj7cp
@@MSA-uj7cp "That guy" is naive. He should take notes from Mark Laita of Soft White Underbelly and LISTEN. Not steam roll his knowledge on said subject down his guests throat. "That guy" needs to give his guest the attention and respect he deserves. "That guy" doesn't understand the concept of making the guests the "star" of his show.
- do not treat people by stereotypes but get into their world. - powerlessness corrupts more than power - women (and men) want to feel special, important, different - a weak ego (insecurities) is anti-seductive - being dominant is a positive trait - your mother conditions your unconscious desires
6:00 People secretly want to be vulnerable 13:00 People secretly want to be seduced 25:50 Women have a sixth sense about insecure men 29:50 Develop observation skills 36:00 Being stingy is anti seductive 39:30 Virtual sex 43:00 Masculine role models 46:00 *Aggression; ambition* 51:00 Channeling testosterone 54:00 Elon Musk; ferocity 1:00:00 Be like water; it can flow or crash 1:05:00 Have an element of “I don’t care” 1:08:00 It’s the mental aspect that makes you a great athlete 1:11:00 Women vs men in seduction 1:27:30 Be in the moment
I read the book "art of seduction" and "laws of human nature". Although laws of humans nature does not soley focus on love, It is still paritaly related to seducction. I read them as a last resort when no girl would ever show interest in me. Completion of his books allowed me to understand psychology deeper, however I am still single. I would recomend anyone who is struggling just go out and make some female friends. Reading is not even 20 percent of the answer, I personally would give reading around 5 percent credit if you want to succedd in love or relationships. His other books are far more useful in workplace or business and easier to apply than romance.
You're absolutely correct. Surround yourself with women of all types. Become friends with as many as you can, regardless of their physical attractiveness or whether they're single or not. Not only will you come to understand them better, but you'll become much more confident around them. That makes it far easier to attract romantic partners.
It's most useful when you already have a normal life and are already surrounded by female friends, colleagues etc whom you can practice some of these principles on.
I read "How to win friends and influence people" and immediately I was basically able to get any woman who would give me a chance, e.g. if she'd reply to my messages, was single and in my league, I could get with her. The problem them became about being selective enough to pick a good woman rather than just getting laid or getting a relationship.
I have a bit of a problem with the whole concept of going out of your way to seduce someone. You are engaging in actions that you would not otherwise do. Actions that are not born out of your own character. You are trying to game the system. It is definitely being fake. But fine, let's say that being fake is good enough for you. How long do you think you can keep the act up before you drop the ball and revert to your real character? Until you are in the relationship? Until you marry? What about the years after that? Isn't it better to be your real self and let the person get attracted to the real you? Isn't that a much bigger win? You can do some self improvement if you don't like yourself, go to the gym, make more money etc., but don't go trying to be someone else.
My interpretation is not to put up a facade, but rather to be focused in your approach and mindful of your actions, and how they are intepreted. You gotta get one foot in the door before you both put on sweatpants and eat a tub of B3n and Jerrys. Also don't be a "nice guy(tm)". Which is actually kind of a crappy facade in a way. Seducing =/= gaming the system unless ya are.
yes 100%. Society also tells men to do all the chasing. And that we need external things to be good enough. Thats why people chase money or exhausting careers. We literally contribute to woman's favor instead of being stoic and let them come to us. Which from experience works a lot better then the opposite.
@@patrickmahon3476 To be fair this video teaches some things that we are doing wrong and should fix, that are not part of your character identity. The world is nuanced. But overall I think the whole premise of the video is wrong.
I wasn't sure if I'd like this based on the title, knowing it could go so many ways, but Robert Greene is great. I love hearing about the why. Very informative and clicks any missing pieces into place.
I am highly present with you in what you are saying. Totally into what you are saying, getting to know you deeply... I am slightly dangerous, and very resourceful.... 😋
I think of myself as a nice guy, and I know it came from my childhood because my mother showed love toward me if I was a nice boy. So now, as an adult, I'm always nice to others because I want them to like me, and most of the time, I get hurt and feel being used by others.
48 laws of power - banned in Prisons Art of Seduction - Banned in Germany Imagine the amount of hidden tactics discussed in those books that authority has to ban it. Robert Greene is legend
Tom needs to stop injecting what he thinks about the subject and instead draw out Greene. Tom made an interviewer's biggest mistake at the beginning of this interview but did get better as it continued.
33:14 Spot on what Robert is saying here. That is what we will think in a situation like that because All women regardless of how confident some may be, we still have this insecurity and this fear of rejection. That is what I would feel immediately in that situation when a man says lets not go any further. I would actually cry thinking he saw my fat rolls and wants to go home. Haha.
@35.00 where he talks about his wife wanting him to drop everything to show her how much he wants and desires her is at odds with what women really need to feel attracted to a man. If he drops everything too often (key word), he will show that he values her too much in her subconscious mind and she will no longer want him. If he shows her she is his equal (as opposed to him being superior), she will lose attraction.
Thanks@alphabeta8403 6:00 People secretly want to be vulnerable 13:00 People secretly want to be seduced 25:50 Women have a sixth sense about insecure men 29:50 Develop observation skills 36:00 Being stingy is anti seductive 39:30 Virtual sex 43:00 Masculine role models 46:00 Aggression; ambition 51:00 Channeling testosterone 54:00 Elon Musk; ferocity 1:00:00 Be like water; it can flow or crash 1:05:00 Have an element of “I don’t care” 1:08:00 It’s the mental aspect that makes you a great athlete 1:11:00 Women vs men in seduction 1:27:30 Be in the moment
From an evolutionary standpoint, women have historically exhibited a preference for robust mates capable of ensuring protection, provision, and the ability to produce healthy offspring. These inclinations are deeply embedded in their genetic makeup, forged over hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. However, contemporary efforts to alter these dynamics within a mere few decades have led to an increase in individuals, both women and men, relying on antidepressants, experiencing fractured familial structures, and engaging in neurotic relationships. Emphasizing adherence to fundamental principles rooted in nature's design could potentially provide a more stable foundation for relationships.
1:01:04 "meek" It doesn't mean "weak" it's more like "trained" or "disciplined" similar to "cooperative/ controllable by its master" To illustrate: a MEEK horse is still strong to carry loads and people. But it is rideable and can be steered by a rider. Same case with police dogs. They are meeked but not weak. #tamed
"You need to know when to disappear for a week so they know they can't take you for granted". "Everyone secretly wants to be vulnerable." So... gain trust, then cynically manipulate. Great way to create lasting connection.
THANK YOU ROBERT GREENE. One reader/viewer said that he could listen to a 5 hour podcast from Robert Greene. I could too. I listen to ROBERT GREENE every single day. I often, not always, take notes. I do that because I need to realize that applying his knowledge & wisdom towards PRACTICAL AND REALISTIC ACTION STEPS is the key. Part of what Robert consistently implies is being 100% honest with yourself. Seeing other peoples perspectives. And getting out of your own comfort zone with not only consistent healthy action steps but having an open mind towards learning which allows me to grow. I suggest that people take an amount of notes that they decide to with certain subjects that Robert discusses because of only does it reinforce what is learned "in the moment" but can be used for reference at times when having those notes is necessary. I haven't read all of his books yet. However, it does give me another positive project to look forward to. Yes, THANK YOU ROBERT GREENE FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
The freaking turn on when it comes to vampires is that it's in a vampires nature to kill people by feasting on their blood. So its the ultimate act of self restraint when a vampire doesn't feast on your blood, because he loves you and would never hurt you, even if it causes him terrible pain.
You can’t beat Game, mental strength and positive moves as seductive tools. The resulting serotonin, dopamine and oxytocin make you feel constructively powerful.
What is interesting about this conversation is that it's aaaaall about the woman and what THEY want. No one is asking or is interested in what men want, who cares right? It's all about the women women women 24/7. Men have fantasies too men have needs too men also have certain things they like that they want to see. If my needs are not met and no one cares about what I want as man then why should I care about what the woman wants?
I pretended to be what a woman wanted but then realized I didn't want to continue pretending. So for "sincere" people this is very problematic, there being a world full of non-realistic women whereas most men are more realistic and sincere, less prone to fantasies and not wanting a life of pretense.
Yea we've always wanted the pretty boys since our teens. Guys don't know the power of a handsome man to us. Gets the oxytocin going not the sexual stimulation men get by visual. The infatuation hormone is super strong. Look at how girls scream for BTS or boy bands that's oxytocin. Look how hypnotized men are at strip clubs, it's a diff hormone reaction.
Attractive physically? Ive seen a lot of successful, confident men with game who arent the best looking get with woman who are better looking than them.
Great video. I don’t enjoy when people who have never been to war speak on it. War is like football? I’ve done both and they couldn’t be more far apart. Stick to what you know brother. Both of you are smarter than I am by far. Neither of you are warriors.
I think perhaps you might havectaken that comparison too literally. My suggestion is that they were referring to strategy in that strategy is applicable to both scenarios.
Football is a lot like war. Or rather, it's a proxy for it. It allows you to execute plans with teammates against another team of males. It requires strength, skill, and courage, and it's relentless in its rules. I've never been to war, and I can't speak on the terror, shock of reality opening up before you, the depth of being forced to make choices that shake your whole self, the darkness and inescapability. There's not much of that in football. But football allows you to determine who might be good in a war, and having a sorting hat for mate quality, without a bunch of your males dying. So goes the theory.
I didn't watch the video to be honest. I do think you have a point. The subject of women shouldn't be compared to war or football in anyway. Men are the reason both(football/war) happen. Men also are the only ones playing or fighting. These guys are trying to be part of the groups trying to create better men for women. Why? Women are suppose to support their men in general. Pretty simple concept. Men must respect the women WHILE women support and respect men. It's all changed now. Women are entitled and spoiled. How can you change that. If men are basically still the same.🤷♂️. In general of course.
Gents, Stop researching "how to do well with women" and start researching how to do well for yourselves. Have boundaries and self esteem. Regard your own self as more important than women. And don't chase external reactions from women, but instead chase internal feelings for yourself as a reward for living life the way you want for yourself. Don't ever chase women. Let them chase you. And don't be afraid to be alone if the right one never comes. Because the truth is you don't need them, they need you. Women are children. And if a man wants to be with a woman, he will have to condescend to her mental level. Remember this. Signing up for a life with a woman is signing up for a life of voluntary suffering. She will make you fall in love with a facade and you will be thinking "it'll never happen to me". Then she'll do the bait and switch. Don't ever get married. Print out your vows and sign them yourselves and get married before each other, or sign a civil union or something. But I wouldnt even get the state involved. Have separate bank accounts and make her earn all her own money. Have your residence in your name. Have your car in your name. And don't ever put her name on anything. Keep a woman around for pleasure, but don't ever trust her as far as you can throw her. And only be with her if she's willing to play by your rules.
Very inspirational, but because only one thing. I am ugly. Always been. And now I am looking this man that is more, far more than me. Such a revelation!
I am a woman and I don't think any of this is remotely true. I would never respond to this. Here's the real secret. Find something you are actually interested in, go and socialize around that thing. Sooner or later you'll run into a female and actually have something to talk about ;-). Become friends, then maybe worry about romance. It's so much better being with somebody who is truly interested in you than in some veneer you put up. It's riskier to show your true self but so much more rewarding, for real.
Peace through strength. Forge your body and skills, but most importantly, your will to act when it is absolutely necessary, but the best fight or battle is the one that never took place. Using the brain is the most important tool and weapon...keep it all sharp!
@@PowerofRock24they were going to arrest him anyways. It's not like the government didn't know where his mansion was located. I don't know why anyone believes that pizza box bullcrap
@@marcusmaire8197 Who says I'm a leftist? The Romanian police deduced his location from the pizza boxes in his video. The video was made as an insecure response video to Greta and it got him arrested. Dude is an idiot and a caricature, he is farming insecure men for their money. It has nothing to do with politics. Even if it did, I'm 100% MAGA. But stupid is stupid.
Follow this garbage at your own peril. He’s right about everything he’s right about mystery and seduction. His advice will definitely get you laid. And in the morning, when you are not able to be her fantasy into the next day, when you have to go back to work when you have to return to your real life, when the responsibilities rise with the sun to dissolve your fantasy island, she will destroy you.
Necesitamos entender la seduccion como algo positivo, como el inicio de una historia de amor donde dos partes ganan. Y no solo una persona consiguiendo algo por medio de el conocimiento de unos principios psicologicos. Importante enfocarnos en lo que viene despues, no solo en el momento de crear atraccion en alguien. No solamente se trata del momento inicial de conseguir un objetivo.
@@IAmTheEggMan111 True! It doesn't help to be yourself if this self has no attracting qualities - even if it's a women giving you the advice to 'just' be yourself 😂
he Eagles nailed with this lyric from "Peaceful Easy Feeling" : "I found out along time ago, what a woman can do to your soul. And that she can't take you anywhere, You don't already know where to go!"
I am not about to chase a woman who shows know Intrest. If I start off chasing her, I will always have to chase. if you start off chasing. You will always have to chase her. The mind games ever end. ( I was once that SIMP)
It looks like the real answer here is intimacy, which is powerful for either gender. Intimacy FEELS like vulnerability, but it isn't. "You may reject me for what I will say, but it is of me, and I would rather you reject me for the truth than to persist in what isn't valid and persist in a lie." Intimacy is a higher order skill that requires tolerance for ambiguity and a form of self-soothing. This is mostly absent in the younger generation. It feels threatening but is actually protective and empowering. It carves out social space for mutual individuation. It allows both people to see be seen and feel seen. This is arousing at the deepest level. It is assertional. Mr "nice guy," in contrast, is adaptive and conciliatory. I'm bisexual, and I find many of the same things arousing across genders. Psychological health. . . . surprise!!!. . . . is sexy.
That's it, agreed 100%. Hold your nerve and dare to be genuine. That looks like vulnerability but underneath it IS essentially felt as strength.. and it really works) I feel there is some metaphysics going on with that. Like consciousness recognizing consciousness is intimacy and that is what consciousness is trying to bond with. A meeting of minds. From experience over time I've found the stronger and healthier I am in general (body/mind) the easier it is to hold that space. It almost happens naturally when we are on 'that' level. When water finds its own level, games are defunct.
Sex is too much ? I have listened and read much of Green’s stuff , etc… Much I can identify with , and also even agree with … I would suspect that the political / Social dynamics in his personal life have influenced falsely his vantage point to a degree… ( this is undoubtedly occurs w many- and me as well. Certainly) He has a wife / domestic partner who is a leading feminist and advocate .. Just an observation. Not a bashing ..
Interesting foot note. I guess men must continue doing the work and research for advice on how to keep or get a woman. When in the hell is a woman/man going to go after the weaker sex? To even possibly consider the woman as the culprit for such crayzness we see in relationships?
Subbed, I've never heard it from this perspective it blew me away, I'm successful, get told its OK for you blah blah blah, in shape, more than 1 house, new car. Ive just done a 5 mile walk alone on a Saturday night. 51, never married, no kids, just got into the rooms of recovery (AA), I've been a perpetual fuck boy, ONS, FWB, I use self dep. humour, this helpex put some things in perspective
Seduction that works on anyone: be as there for the person as much as their mother would be, or the ideal mother would be; be mysterious and give them the ability to slowly solve you, the mystery, on their own. Be highly, highly interested in this person. It works particularly well if your interest in them seems illogical to them. Don't get so carried away that you become an actual stalker, of course. It's like stalking comfortably and carefully. Be incredibly unselfish and let them come to you, especially if the person is male. Men need to be kept in the masculine role or the seduction won't work. It means wait for them to call you and respond every time just as his mother would. She's the woman you will always be competing with.
we stalk each other and fantasize but never really bring it up in our friendship because she knows i have ALOT of work to do but she sticking and believing in me 🎉
8 to 20 burpees without push-ups with or without jump or more. 10 to 20 goblet squats or more 10 to 20 romanian deadlifts or more 3x 10 to 20 180 degree jumps or more 10 to 20 push-ups or dumbell bench press or more 10 to 20 back rows 3x 30 to 60 jumping jacks or more 10 to 20 bicep curls or more 10 to 20 shoulder presses or more 3x 30 situps or more 3x Run 1/4 mile or more 4x Mix and match
When a fighter invites a wizard to a philosophical discussion, both have distinctly different ways of understanding reality and/or and solving problems.
"Meek" is derived from a greek word describing their war horses. Very powerful, but obedient to their rider. It had nothing to do with weakness, in the context the word was used 2000 years ago.
Mr Bilyeu, sometimes let the person finish talking. You interrupt your guests a lot when they are explaining something and we are listening. All in all lovely interview 👏🏾
There is so much information and videos on this topic. It's overwhelming. I am just going to stick to this video and watch it on repeat until the end of the year.
In my experience if you don't have one it's difficult to get started but once you catch one several others are getting in line. If I fall for it I end up with none again. I'm single at 61. I've fell for it 3 or 4 times throughout life. It's getting harder and harder to get started lately. 🤔
Men are so vulnerable as never before. Women can make false accusations an men will go to jail, pay alimony, or in case of children - childsupport. And it can be also in workplace, any accusation from female employee is enough to precautionary fire a man, just in case she speaks the truth. And it will stay that way until the principle "female accusation against male equals proof" or assumed guilty until proven innocent is not changed. There has to be some responsibility for false accusations. If falsely accused men for rape have to go to jail for 20+ years, than if false accusation is proven - accuser should go to jail for 20+ years.
As an editor of romance novels (and as a woman), I can tell you women want to be heard, seen, and prioritized. Women are attracted to men that display some “dangerous” qualities because it shows the ability to protect. The only problem women have with a nice guy is that he doesn’t show that he’s willing (and able)to step up for her should she ever need him to (not always in a physical fight, but say, if his mother is giving her a hard time, he’s willing to step in and say hey you can’t talk to my wife/girlfriend/whatever like that). The advice this guy gave about nice guys was BAD and will backfire. Going back and forth between nice and unavailable (“make her want it”) is going to confuse her about your interest and make her think you’re either using her or not really attracted to her. Women want to be chased. Especially by a man who isn’t shy about his interest; Don’t make her guess. Want to know why women want to be with the bad boy instead of the good guy? The good guy will sacrifice her to save the world. The bad guy will sacrifice the world to save her. Women want to be valued like that.
How do you balance this mindset you're describing with behaviors like simping and over investment being a turn off? A big problem with Nice Guys is that they'll value a woman for more than the world, they'll value her above themselves. They are pros at setting women on a pedestal while setting the bar for what they get back too low. What's healthy about that? Also think your analogy is incomplete, the full thing looks more like: "A good guy may sacrifice her to save the world, but he will also sacrifice himself to save her. A bad guy may sacrifice the world to save her, but he will also sacrifice her to save himself."
@@TheNynax I like your analogy better lol. That’s probably about right in the real world. My original analogy is just a saying in the romance writing world to express that the hero deeply loves the heroine. I think there’s a difference between being a nice guy and a clingy doormat stemming from insecurity with no boundary enforcement. And as someone who used to be exactly like that, that goes for women too. Healthy communication about what everyone wants and boundaries that are respected is key. People can be nice without encouraging others to take advantage of them (I did this for years and it was awful but he turned into my dream man when I started communicating my boundaries. Just my personal experience).
And I quote “Who could endure the type of warfare today as back in Ancient Rome IE: taking a sword to the chest” this is what both of you stated, which is such an offense to what us veterans endure in battle fighting, being wounded and dying in countries where the enemy still use swords and bandits are still strapped AK-47 and other weapons‼️ I’m always amazed to hear people who clearly have no knowledge experience, bravery, courage, or scars of war and warfare talk about things they know nothing about. I suggest you both stick to talking about women, they seem to be all that you both are warriors of‼️
They made sliding into the adventure of human emotions EXPENSIVE, lol. Plus, social media exacebates the degree to which women want to feel, which raises the bar for what women desire, making it to where the average man can not fulfill those desires.
@@rml4289 I’m 6’, fit and athletic, 6-figure income, and socially skilled. If you listened to what they said, it’s not just the average guy who is undervalued, it’s all but the top 10%.
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Two guys discussing a woman's sexual fantasy....
Could you not find two women for the panel?
My wife is crazy and I f'n hate it.
@@dtsai Divorce her
You refer to "the rules", for seducation, flirtation, how things changed for you personally and how you met your wife once you learned. Who does one listen to/read for these rules?
I DONT THINK U HATED CAUSE IF YOU DO YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN GONE LONG AGO
@@dtsai
Keanu Reeves is a great example of someone who doesn’t need to yell or get out order when explaining himself. He’s always cool, calm, and collected and is highly generous, not only with his money, but his time and attention. He’s definitely someone that young men or just anyone should look up to.
Hes also a goodlooking, tall multimillionaire.
He has $300 million
@@Therevolution7 He also lost his pregnant wife and baby to a car accident, and has spent most of his life on a spiritual journey to get over this. As well as his best friend dying at 23 (River Phoenix). You would have to 1.) live a high end actor life and 2.) lose everything (and have to overcome it) to reach his level of spiritual chill. It's very unlikely anyone will be like him; he's in the top .0001 percent OF the top .00001 of people. He's awesome, but...an odd life and a rare gem.
But Keenu Reeves is highly attractive and has had incredible success. it is very hard to introduce into you the type of charisma that Keenu emulates. However, I appreciate him a lot
Keanu Reeves is also very tall and in his youth he was one of the most handsome men. He didn't really have to do anything, women looked at him for 3 seconds and were in love
Robert is so interesting and good at explaining hard things in a gentle way
Yes! Tom nailed it. Woman do want to feel they are the only one that their man wants, desires, and cant contain his strong desire for her, but only for her.
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Yet, when he acts upon it, she runs. I believe she has to chase him and coax it from him. She must give her attention with intention and he is responsible to recieve it and then reciprocate.
@@ra3i.alalia😂😊
32:46 which is probably delusional at a GENETIC level, just like seduction probably is for men at a GENETIC level.
Realizing, and how to survive this, and be successful at least with ONE other human SUCCESSFULLY and be able to MAINTAIN it for more than 20 minutes seems to be where we stand NOW. FOR ANYONE looks like.
Are men any different?
*It’s eye-opening to realize that many women crave someone who knows how to take control in a confident, respectful way. It’s not about being aggressive but about exuding that self-assured energy.*
I would definitely watch a 5h podcast if Robert Greene is the one talking.
Robert is a national treasure.
Same lol
I think it's nice time from time to hear the host's thoughts too. It is a conversation afterall
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Very important information from Robert for men: Stay calm, breathe, don't yell, don't be violent, be gentle, be generous with a woman, take responsibility for your mistakes and don't blame others.
Also be able to read if you're dealing with an abusive passive aggressive covert narcissist.
@@sednasix6608 What do you mean with that?
Say no, never accomodate and never be a nice guy
@@ashwinashwin3663 Good luck then.
Sounds like you got half of it.
As a home schooled I can say my success with women compared to public schoolers is far greater. Human connection is built within us, during school years we gather nothing but insecurities which mess with our built-in perception. As a homeschooler I was primarily focused on my work and hobbies, not many friends, just brothers and sisters to play with. This upbringing has set me up, my flow and conversation is almost effortless, it did take me a couple of years to refine myself in the public world but now social skills combined with concrete personal identity makes me very peculiar compared to regular people. Public school puts filters and resentments on ppl, home school allows kids to find their strengths and weaknesses without societal pressures, which come later on.
Interesting perspective. I thought the opposite, but you make sense. Public school was a psychological and physical warzone, at times.
@@boethius1812Homeschooling is crapped on by society alot and it is encouraged by the system becoz the public schooling system is the only way that they can get their claws into your child's head and psyche while they are young and tear them down before they get a chance to become strong.
Homeschooled kids are often mentally healthier and that's not a co-incidence...
Depends on what your parents are like. In my experience home schooled kids were always hyper sheltered weirdos with god complexes who thought they were so much better and smarter than everyone else
@boethius1812 The opposite is true too. I also did homeschooling. Is saw some children become better equipped socially than the average public school kid, and others become way worse off than a public school kid. It depends on the social opportunities, experiences and social exposure available to the homeschooled kid.
You’ve got to figure in attachment theory; sounds like your family was secure. If you grew up in an alcoholic family, public schools, insane as they are, might have provided moments of true friendship and connection with positive role models
Generosity VS Nice Guy is the key. My 'nice guy' has an agenda of sex or attention depending on the woman. It's definitely trauma induced from childhood and wanting to make mom and dad happy and to stop fighting. It makes you stingy in so many ways. Whereas when I'm being generous there is no real agenda going on. I just want to be there for the person and give more of myself in that moment rather than being stingy with my energy.
Exactly, being nice is people pleasing action. Kindness not so much generosity but can include it. you don't have to kind to her even. Be kind to others show's her you are kind. If you kind to people who serve you then that intrigues her. The man is nice to her but unkind to others is a red flag.
Whoa, never thought of personifying the "nice guy" part of myself. I'm definitely a people pleaser (also stemming from childhood trauma, yuh) and find myself giving all my energy to everyone except myself. Then I'll feel resentful towards others for not doing the same, but like, that's not fair to them, unrealistic, and just not a healthy way to go about things in general. That's my fault/problem though, not theirs. Whenever I start to feel resentful, I can totally just think the "nice guy" is telling me I should dedicate some time to myself.
Thanks for sharing homie
wtf is this world coming to. men (myself included) watching videos to learn how to get girls. the fact that these things even exists and are so popular nowadays tells so much about how f'd up the world is becoming. its basically men trying to learn how to be men because they can't act like one being raised in today's age. because women also don't act like women (they are correlated obviously). just the thought of having kids and what kind of life they're gonna be having scares me
wtf is this world coming to. men (myself included) watching videos to learn how to get girls. the fact that these things even exists and are so popular nowadays tells so much about how f'd up the world is becoming. its basically men trying to learn how to be men because they can't act like one being raised in today's age. because women also don't act like women (they are correlated obviously). just the thought of having kids and what kind of life they're gonna be having scares me
Real talk, bro. Nice guy vibes often come with strings attached. Generosity, on the other hand, no hidden agenda. It's about giving without expecting anything in return. Drop the nice guy act, be genuinely generous - that's where the real power is. Keep it real, no strings attached.
Tom Talks too much about himself and how he has mastered it all.
TRUTH‼️… and clearly he hasn’t mastered it!
Noticed this too. To me, Tom’s talking about himself is him highlighting his insecurities
Well I mean he cultivates looking like a roadie for a butt rock band.
Yep, noticing that too, as well as him mentioning ON EVERY PODCAST of his, I've listened too, about how" MUCH MONEY I HAVE!"
In all his podcasts, he interrupts and tells about himself and his problems when he needs to just let the guest talk. He needs to take lessons from his wife and her podcasts
Looks like this guy wanted to interview himself with Robert. He literally did
As a woman I think the glasses are hot.
"this guy" owns this huge platform and is having a discussion with RB
correction... its an interview, where he just spoke the entire time. People are watching this to hear what robert greene, the guest, has to say@@MSA-uj7cp
@@MSA-uj7cp "That guy" is naive. He should take notes from Mark Laita of Soft White Underbelly and LISTEN. Not steam roll his knowledge on said subject down his guests throat. "That guy" needs to give his guest the attention and respect he deserves. "That guy" doesn't understand the concept of making the guests the "star" of his show.
He always does.
- do not treat people by stereotypes but get into their world.
- powerlessness corrupts more than power
- women (and men) want to feel special, important, different
- a weak ego (insecurities) is anti-seductive
- being dominant is a positive trait
- your mother conditions your unconscious desires
When do women do these things for/toward men??
ur mother conditios my desires
@bobmorgan5636 never talk to women. It'll only end badly for you!
😅😂😂@@kaybrown7733
39:15 Impossible for her to do this RIGHT. For SONS particularly.
Neither can Fathers for DAUGHTERS.
So here we all stand.
There's also _How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen_ by David Brooks.
My goal in life is to become a Vampire Billionaire
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Me too
I see what you did there😅😅😅😅
You made me laugh soooo hard 😂
😂
6:00 People secretly want to be vulnerable
13:00 People secretly want to be seduced
25:50 Women have a sixth sense about insecure men
29:50 Develop observation skills
36:00 Being stingy is anti seductive
39:30 Virtual sex
43:00 Masculine role models
46:00 *Aggression; ambition*
51:00 Channeling testosterone
54:00 Elon Musk; ferocity
1:00:00 Be like water; it can flow or crash
1:05:00 Have an element of “I don’t care”
1:08:00 It’s the mental aspect that makes you a great athlete
1:11:00 Women vs men in seduction
1:27:30 Be in the moment
Thanks for this, dude 👍🏾
I read the book "art of seduction" and "laws of human nature". Although laws of humans nature does not soley focus on love, It is still paritaly related to seducction. I read them as a last resort when no girl would ever show interest in me. Completion of his books allowed me to understand psychology deeper, however I am still single. I would recomend anyone who is struggling just go out and make some female friends. Reading is not even 20 percent of the answer, I personally would give reading around 5 percent credit if you want to succedd in love or relationships. His other books are far more useful in workplace or business and easier to apply than romance.
You're absolutely correct. Surround yourself with women of all types. Become friends with as many as you can, regardless of their physical attractiveness or whether they're single or not. Not only will you come to understand them better, but you'll become much more confident around them. That makes it far easier to attract romantic partners.
It's most useful when you already have a normal life and are already surrounded by female friends, colleagues etc whom you can practice some of these principles on.
After reading the book, I now get more ass than a toilet seat.
Everything has to be natural, there's no point reading a book and following rule by rule because it won't seem natural, Robert already said that
I read "How to win friends and influence people" and immediately I was basically able to get any woman who would give me a chance, e.g. if she'd reply to my messages, was single and in my league, I could get with her. The problem them became about being selective enough to pick a good woman rather than just getting laid or getting a relationship.
"You gotta master yourself first, then you can kick butt, in any kind of encounter or battle"
Robert Greene
This is what is called an incredible deep level conversation!
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How did this get so many likes, yet no comments? Is it a secret?
Is this a scam?
Is the revandles site legit? The checkout process seems sketchy
@@ryanregulus6066 Probably yes.
I have a bit of a problem with the whole concept of going out of your way to seduce someone. You are engaging in actions that you would not otherwise do. Actions that are not born out of your own character. You are trying to game the system. It is definitely being fake. But fine, let's say that being fake is good enough for you. How long do you think you can keep the act up before you drop the ball and revert to your real character? Until you are in the relationship? Until you marry? What about the years after that? Isn't it better to be your real self and let the person get attracted to the real you? Isn't that a much bigger win? You can do some self improvement if you don't like yourself, go to the gym, make more money etc., but don't go trying to be someone else.
My interpretation is not to put up a facade, but rather to be focused in your approach and mindful of your actions, and how they are intepreted. You gotta get one foot in the door before you both put on sweatpants and eat a tub of B3n and Jerrys. Also don't be a "nice guy(tm)". Which is actually kind of a crappy facade in a way. Seducing =/= gaming the system unless ya are.
yes 100%. Society also tells men to do all the chasing. And that we need external things to be good enough. Thats why people chase money or exhausting careers. We literally contribute to woman's favor instead of being stoic and let them come to us. Which from experience works a lot better then the opposite.
@emf2482 you need some form of value for women to come to you though
Women don't care about a stoic man if he's still a bum
@@patrickmahon3476 To be fair this video teaches some things that we are doing wrong and should fix, that are not part of your character identity.
The world is nuanced.
But overall I think the whole premise of the video is wrong.
Thanks for telling us you didn't watch the video without telling us lol.
I wasn't sure if I'd like this based on the title, knowing it could go so many ways, but Robert Greene is great. I love hearing about the why. Very informative and clicks any missing pieces into place.
I am highly present with you in what you are saying. Totally into what you are saying, getting to know you deeply...
I am slightly dangerous, and very resourceful....
😋
This is not Tinder, buddy! Hehe@@godswittness69
Sure does!
Hahahah Same here.
Brittany, do you find Robert sexually attractive?
Yes. Some hosts are smart enough to know we came on the hear their guests.
I think of myself as a nice guy, and I know it came from my childhood because my mother showed love toward me if I was a nice boy. So now, as an adult, I'm always nice to others because I want them to like me, and most of the time, I get hurt and feel being used by others.
Don’t feel that way ,there are plenty of women who will embrace your kindness and will want you as a loving partner .❤
48 laws of power - banned in Prisons
Art of Seduction - Banned in Germany
Imagine the amount of hidden tactics discussed in those books that authority has to ban it.
Robert Greene is legend
Same for Mein Kampf
Tom needs to stop injecting what he thinks about the subject and instead draw out Greene. Tom made an interviewer's biggest mistake at the beginning of this interview but did get better as it continued.
33:14 Spot on what Robert is saying here. That is what we will think in a situation like that because All women regardless of how confident some may be, we still have this insecurity and this fear of rejection. That is what I would feel immediately in that situation when a man says lets not go any further. I would actually cry thinking he saw my fat rolls and wants to go home. Haha.
😂😂. The fat rolls part. Too funny
Robert is an absolute gem of a human, can’t wait to listen 📈
@35.00 where he talks about his wife wanting him to drop everything to show her how much he wants and desires her is at odds with what women really need to feel attracted to a man. If he drops everything too often (key word), he will show that he values her too much in her subconscious mind and she will no longer want him. If he shows her she is his equal (as opposed to him being superior), she will lose attraction.
I will do 1 pushup for each like this comments get...
When?
I can do 33 push-ups in a single rep.
Whew.
I did 30 in 1 push up
Was push-ups mentioned in the interview?
@@jackslater8688 you have to watch it. No cheating you sneaky dog
Is something wrong with me, or why do I care so less about people who show resistance and no interest. Love whom who loves you. Simple and good.
same
I can relate!
Thanks@alphabeta8403
6:00 People secretly want to be vulnerable
13:00 People secretly want to be seduced
25:50 Women have a sixth sense about insecure men
29:50 Develop observation skills
36:00 Being stingy is anti seductive
39:30 Virtual sex
43:00 Masculine role models
46:00 Aggression; ambition
51:00 Channeling testosterone
54:00 Elon Musk; ferocity
1:00:00 Be like water; it can flow or crash
1:05:00 Have an element of “I don’t care”
1:08:00 It’s the mental aspect that makes you a great athlete
1:11:00 Women vs men in seduction
1:27:30 Be in the moment
He’s spot on about using niceness strategically
From an evolutionary standpoint, women have historically exhibited a preference for robust mates capable of ensuring protection, provision, and the ability to produce healthy offspring. These inclinations are deeply embedded in their genetic makeup, forged over hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. However, contemporary efforts to alter these dynamics within a mere few decades have led to an increase in individuals, both women and men, relying on antidepressants, experiencing fractured familial structures, and engaging in neurotic relationships.
Emphasizing adherence to fundamental principles rooted in nature's design could potentially provide a more stable foundation for relationships.
1:01:04 "meek"
It doesn't mean "weak"
it's more like "trained" or "disciplined"
similar to "cooperative/ controllable by its master"
To illustrate:
a MEEK horse is still strong to carry loads and people. But it is rideable and can be steered by a rider.
Same case with police dogs.
They are meeked but not weak.
#tamed
Robert Greene is a ninja of seduction and very knowledgeable and advanced. I love you!
He seduced you
One of my best author.theee is no second one close to Robert greene
"You need to know when to disappear for a week so they know they can't take you for granted". "Everyone secretly wants to be vulnerable." So... gain trust, then cynically manipulate. Great way to create lasting connection.
Boom.
Female language exactly.
@@PeteLG but in this case, a book of it written by a guy describing how to succeed in relationship. Bad approach no matter who is doing it imo.
@@KK-dv3whwomen like that though
thats why i quit dating women this days not worth it ...
THANK YOU ROBERT GREENE. One reader/viewer said that he could listen to a 5 hour podcast from Robert Greene. I could too. I listen to ROBERT GREENE every single day. I often, not always, take notes. I do that because I need to realize that applying his knowledge & wisdom towards PRACTICAL AND REALISTIC ACTION STEPS is the key.
Part of what Robert consistently implies is being 100% honest with yourself. Seeing other peoples perspectives. And getting out of your own comfort zone with not only consistent healthy action steps but having an open mind towards learning which allows me to grow.
I suggest that people take an amount of notes that they decide to with certain subjects that Robert discusses because of only does it reinforce what is learned "in the moment" but can be used for reference at times when having those notes is necessary. I haven't read all of his books yet. However, it does give me another positive project to look forward to. Yes, THANK YOU ROBERT GREENE FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
The freaking turn on when it comes to vampires is that it's in a vampires nature to kill people by feasting on their blood. So its the ultimate act of self restraint when a vampire doesn't feast on your blood, because he loves you and would never hurt you, even if it causes him terrible pain.
Exactly
Hm never thought about that, my ex was into that kind of pulp fiction...
You can’t beat Game, mental strength and positive moves as seductive tools. The resulting serotonin, dopamine and oxytocin make you feel constructively powerful.
What is interesting about this conversation is that it's aaaaall about the woman and what THEY want.
No one is asking or is interested in what men want, who cares right? It's all about the women women women 24/7.
Men have fantasies too men have needs too men also have certain things they like that they want to see.
If my needs are not met and no one cares about what I want as man then why should I care about what the woman wants?
Robert Green is my spiritual leader.
So happy you have him on today
I pretended to be what a woman wanted but then realized I didn't want to continue pretending. So for "sincere" people this is very problematic, there being a world full of non-realistic women whereas most men are more realistic and sincere, less prone to fantasies and not wanting a life of pretense.
That was hell of a podcast. This man is a gem to society.
That’s debatable.
If advocating extreme manipulativeness and psychopathy is being considered a gem today, then f society.
He wrote the famous book "The 48 Laws Of Power" , a favourite of the ultimate psychopath Tony Blair , says it all @@A_n_y_t_i_m_e
He has his own RUclips channel: Just search for him 😊
@@masteryoda498 you’re negative and self defeating.
None of this matters if the woman doesn't find you attractive,, women are allowed to care about looks now and that bothers some men
Bingo
Yea we've always wanted the pretty boys since our teens. Guys don't know the power of a handsome man to us. Gets the oxytocin going not the sexual stimulation men get by visual. The infatuation hormone is super strong. Look at how girls scream for BTS or boy bands that's oxytocin. Look how hypnotized men are at strip clubs, it's a diff hormone reaction.
Absolutely nailed it. FIRST establish that she's attracted to you, if not , it doesn't matter.
Attractive physically? Ive seen a lot of successful, confident men with game who arent the best looking get with woman who are better looking than them.
@@samnectarUh.. I'd take an ugly billionaire chick 7 days a week and twice on Sunday 😂
Great video. I don’t enjoy when people who have never been to war speak on it. War is like football? I’ve done both and they couldn’t be more far apart. Stick to what you know brother. Both of you are smarter than I am by far. Neither of you are warriors.
I think perhaps you might havectaken that comparison too literally. My suggestion is that they were referring to strategy in that strategy is applicable to both scenarios.
Your taking that statement too literally. They are just making a rough comparison there because both things are physical in nature.
Football is a lot like war. Or rather, it's a proxy for it. It allows you to execute plans with teammates against another team of males. It requires strength, skill, and courage, and it's relentless in its rules. I've never been to war, and I can't speak on the terror, shock of reality opening up before you, the depth of being forced to make choices that shake your whole self, the darkness and inescapability. There's not much of that in football. But football allows you to determine who might be good in a war, and having a sorting hat for mate quality, without a bunch of your males dying. So goes the theory.
I didn't watch the video to be honest. I do think you have a point. The subject of women shouldn't be compared to war or football in anyway. Men are the reason both(football/war) happen. Men also are the only ones playing or fighting. These guys are trying to be part of the groups trying to create better men for women. Why? Women are suppose to support their men in general. Pretty simple concept. Men must respect the women WHILE women support and respect men. It's all changed now. Women are entitled and spoiled. How can you change that. If men are basically still the same.🤷♂️. In general of course.
Gents,
Stop researching "how to do well with women" and start researching how to do well for yourselves. Have boundaries and self esteem. Regard your own self as more important than women. And don't chase external reactions from women, but instead chase internal feelings for yourself as a reward for living life the way you want for yourself. Don't ever chase women. Let them chase you. And don't be afraid to be alone if the right one never comes. Because the truth is you don't need them, they need you.
Women are children. And if a man wants to be with a woman, he will have to condescend to her mental level. Remember this. Signing up for a life with a woman is signing up for a life of voluntary suffering. She will make you fall in love with a facade and you will be thinking "it'll never happen to me". Then she'll do the bait and switch.
Don't ever get married. Print out your vows and sign them yourselves and get married before each other, or sign a civil union or something. But I wouldnt even get the state involved. Have separate bank accounts and make her earn all her own money. Have your residence in your name. Have your car in your name. And don't ever put her name on anything.
Keep a woman around for pleasure, but don't ever trust her as far as you can throw her. And only be with her if she's willing to play by your rules.
These are words of wisdom! If I could, I would give this comment as many thumbs up as there are comments cheering what Greene says.
There’s still hope in this world. Thank you Tom and Robert Greene.
Robert green is always the man for alot of topics for men❤
Very inspirational, but because only one thing. I am ugly. Always been. And now I am looking this man that is more, far more than me. Such a revelation!
I am a woman and I don't think any of this is remotely true. I would never respond to this. Here's the real secret. Find something you are actually interested in, go and socialize around that thing. Sooner or later you'll run into a female and actually have something to talk about ;-). Become friends, then maybe worry about romance. It's so much better being with somebody who is truly interested in you than in some veneer you put up. It's riskier to show your true self but so much more rewarding, for real.
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Do you think you're different from most women? Thoughts on friendzone?
Peace through strength. Forge your body and skills, but most importantly, your will to act when it is absolutely necessary, but the best fight or battle is the one that never took place. Using the brain is the most important tool and weapon...keep it all sharp!
Tate be catching stray bullets everywhere he goes 😂
,,, As well he should.
That's one very insecure dude. That's why he got rekt by Greta Thunberg and pizza boxes lul
@@PowerofRock24they were going to arrest him anyways. It's not like the government didn't know where his mansion was located. I don't know why anyone believes that pizza box bullcrap
@@PowerofRock24Got rekt? By some high school insult? Ironically coming from someone from the left. Who promote body positivity 😂
@@marcusmaire8197 Who says I'm a leftist? The Romanian police deduced his location from the pizza boxes in his video. The video was made as an insecure response video to Greta and it got him arrested. Dude is an idiot and a caricature, he is farming insecure men for their money. It has nothing to do with politics. Even if it did, I'm 100% MAGA. But stupid is stupid.
This is one of the best interviews I've EVER Watched! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This interview was profound and exactly what I needed. Thank you.
Follow this garbage at your own peril. He’s right about everything he’s right about mystery and seduction. His advice will definitely get you laid. And in the morning, when you are not able to be her fantasy into the next day, when you have to go back to work when you have to return to your real life, when the responsibilities rise with the sun to dissolve your fantasy island, she will destroy you.
thanks man for provide us this great interview with sir Robert Greene
Omg they finally posted Timestamps 🙂😄😊👏👏👏 THANK YOU
Robert is a blessing to us all
Playing games will only get you into a divorce down the line.
Marriage causes divorce
Be nice with boundaries
Necesitamos entender la seduccion como algo positivo, como el inicio de una historia de amor donde dos partes ganan. Y no solo una persona consiguiendo algo por medio de el conocimiento de unos principios psicologicos. Importante enfocarnos en lo que viene despues, no solo en el momento de crear atraccion en alguien. No solamente se trata del momento inicial de conseguir un objetivo.
“Be Yourself”… one if not the most misunderstood secrets to a fulfilled life
If “be yourself” worked everyone would already be successful at this
@@IAmTheEggMan111 True! It doesn't help to be yourself if this self has no attracting qualities - even if it's a women giving you the advice to 'just' be yourself 😂
Great interview!
"It's pretty clear if you pay attention, right?" Nice one, Robert. :)
These days you need written contracts and video documentation to prove that everything was consensual
he Eagles nailed with this lyric from "Peaceful Easy Feeling" :
"I found out along time ago, what a woman can do to your soul. And that she can't take you anywhere, You don't already know where to go!"
I am not about to chase a woman who shows know Intrest. If I start off chasing her, I will always have to chase. if you start off chasing. You will always have to chase her. The mind games ever end.
( I was once that SIMP)
It looks like the real answer here is intimacy, which is powerful for either gender. Intimacy FEELS like vulnerability, but it isn't. "You may reject me for what I will say, but it is of me, and I would rather you reject me for the truth than to persist in what isn't valid and persist in a lie." Intimacy is a higher order skill that requires tolerance for ambiguity and a form of self-soothing. This is mostly absent in the younger generation. It feels threatening but is actually protective and empowering. It carves out social space for mutual individuation. It allows both people to see be seen and feel seen. This is arousing at the deepest level. It is assertional. Mr "nice guy," in contrast, is adaptive and conciliatory. I'm bisexual, and I find many of the same things arousing across genders. Psychological health. . . . surprise!!!. . . . is sexy.
That's it, agreed 100%. Hold your nerve and dare to be genuine. That looks like vulnerability but underneath it IS essentially felt as strength.. and it really works) I feel there is some metaphysics going on with that. Like consciousness recognizing consciousness is intimacy and that is what consciousness is trying to bond with. A meeting of minds. From experience over time I've found the stronger and healthier I am in general (body/mind) the easier it is to hold that space. It almost happens naturally when we are on 'that' level. When water finds its own level, games are defunct.
Love it ! always love Robert Greene’ books and ideas 🙏🏻🌷✨🙏🏻
Glad you’ve enjoyed it, sweet sexy little honey 🍯 pot
It’s nice how Tom reads the guy’s book and then invites him on so Tom can interview himself quoting his understanding of the whole book.
Sex is too much ? I have listened and read much of Green’s stuff , etc…
Much I can identify with , and also even agree with …
I would suspect that the political /
Social dynamics in his personal life have influenced falsely his vantage point to a degree… ( this is undoubtedly occurs w many- and me as well. Certainly)
He has a wife / domestic partner who is a leading feminist and advocate ..
Just an observation.
Not a bashing ..
Interesting foot note. I guess men must continue doing the work and research for advice on how to keep or get a woman. When in the hell is a woman/man going to go after the weaker sex? To even possibly consider the woman as the culprit for such crayzness we see in relationships?
Subbed, I've never heard it from this perspective it blew me away, I'm successful, get told its OK for you blah blah blah, in shape, more than 1 house, new car. Ive just done a 5 mile walk alone on a Saturday night. 51, never married, no kids, just got into the rooms of recovery (AA), I've been a perpetual fuck boy, ONS, FWB, I use self dep. humour, this helpex put some things in perspective
A woman's fantasy is a man who is authentic and confident enough to just live himself fully and be vulnerable.
4 women gave this a thumbs up. Your sentence literally means nothing
Seduction that works on anyone: be as there for the person as much as their mother would be, or the ideal mother would be; be mysterious and give them the ability to slowly solve you, the mystery, on their own. Be highly, highly interested in this person. It works particularly well if your interest in them seems illogical to them. Don't get so carried away that you become an actual stalker, of course. It's like stalking comfortably and carefully. Be incredibly unselfish and let them come to you, especially if the person is male. Men need to be kept in the masculine role or the seduction won't work. It means wait for them to call you and respond every time just as his mother would. She's the woman you will always be competing with.
A good analogy but false
That's pretty much almost exactly how my last relationship failed.
this is facts it worked i pulled a 10/10 18 year old latina baddie
we stalk each other and fantasize but never really bring it up in our friendship because she knows i have ALOT of work to do but she sticking and believing in me 🎉
Two guys who don't get beautiful women discuss seduction.
ha
lol be nice bro
Exactly bro been looking for this comment everyone praising them I see right through the bullshit these two are able to pull 5s if theyre lucky.
@@bnieto99What a stupid comment. Look up Pictures of Tom’s wife and get back to me on how wrong you are. You’re a clown 🤡
I only got through tye first 9 minutes, but I sure wish you'd understand that women are listening too!
What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you so much for this interview!
8 to 20 burpees without push-ups with or without jump or more.
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When a fighter invites a wizard to a philosophical discussion, both have distinctly different ways of understanding reality and/or and solving problems.
I love Robert Greene's interviews.
"Meek" is derived from a greek word describing their war horses. Very powerful, but obedient to their rider. It had nothing to do with weakness, in the context the word was used 2000 years ago.
Tom doesn't look like he's going to achieve his goal, which is to live forever. He really ought to rethink his life choices.
Mr Bilyeu, sometimes let the person finish talking. You interrupt your guests a lot when they are explaining something and we are listening.
All in all lovely interview 👏🏾
make yourself as good looking as possible, women choose men based on their looks.
Amen to that!
They care less about looks
@@MadSwagMedia If that was the case then douche bags wouldn't get anywhere with them.
There is so much information and videos on this topic. It's overwhelming. I am just going to stick to this video and watch it on repeat until the end of the year.
The teacher student thing would be a good ethical question regardless of it being done at an adult school.
That's a outstanding podcast... thanks bro❤
Thank you for sharing and time your renowned guest
In my experience if you don't have one it's difficult to get started but once you catch one several others are getting in line. If I fall for it I end up with none again. I'm single at 61. I've fell for it 3 or 4 times throughout life. It's getting harder and harder to get started lately. 🤔
Fall for what?
Trying to manage or juggle 2 or 3@@byanymeansnecessary398
Men are so vulnerable as never before.
Women can make false accusations an men will go to jail, pay alimony, or in case of children - childsupport.
And it can be also in workplace, any accusation from female employee is enough to precautionary fire a man, just in case she speaks the truth.
And it will stay that way until the principle "female accusation against male equals proof" or assumed guilty until proven innocent is not changed.
There has to be some responsibility for false accusations. If falsely accused men for rape have to go to jail for 20+ years, than if false accusation is proven - accuser should go to jail for 20+ years.
As an editor of romance novels (and as a woman), I can tell you women want to be heard, seen, and prioritized. Women are attracted to men that display some “dangerous” qualities because it shows the ability to protect. The only problem women have with a nice guy is that he doesn’t show that he’s willing (and able)to step up for her should she ever need him to (not always in a physical fight, but say, if his mother is giving her a hard time, he’s willing to step in and say hey you can’t talk to my wife/girlfriend/whatever like that). The advice this guy gave about nice guys was BAD and will backfire. Going back and forth between nice and unavailable (“make her want it”) is going to confuse her about your interest and make her think you’re either using her or not really attracted to her. Women want to be chased. Especially by a man who isn’t shy about his interest; Don’t make her guess.
Want to know why women want to be with the bad boy instead of the good guy?
The good guy will sacrifice her to save the world. The bad guy will sacrifice the world to save her. Women want to be valued like that.
How do you balance this mindset you're describing with behaviors like simping and over investment being a turn off? A big problem with Nice Guys is that they'll value a woman for more than the world, they'll value her above themselves. They are pros at setting women on a pedestal while setting the bar for what they get back too low. What's healthy about that?
Also think your analogy is incomplete, the full thing looks more like: "A good guy may sacrifice her to save the world, but he will also sacrifice himself to save her. A bad guy may sacrifice the world to save her, but he will also sacrifice her to save himself."
@@TheNynax I like your analogy better lol. That’s probably about right in the real world. My original analogy is just a saying in the romance writing world to express that the hero deeply loves the heroine.
I think there’s a difference between being a nice guy and a clingy doormat stemming from insecurity with no boundary enforcement. And as someone who used to be exactly like that, that goes for women too. Healthy communication about what everyone wants and boundaries that are respected is key. People can be nice without encouraging others to take advantage of them (I did this for years and it was awful but he turned into my dream man when I started communicating my boundaries. Just my personal experience).
Oh, let nature do what- and how- it's ever done. . .you'll never get more than you can handle, what's the matter with you anyway??😁
"Women want to be chased" until you do it late at night on the streets.
You drank a lot of koolaid.
Men value love. Women love value.
There. You know everything.
This guy (Robert) is real. Exactly the places where we deal with violence everyday.
Fool in the cap looks like that chef dude in Emmerdale
And I quote “Who could endure the type of warfare today as back in Ancient Rome IE: taking a sword to the chest” this is what both of you stated, which is such an offense to what us veterans endure in battle fighting, being wounded and dying in countries where the enemy still use swords and bandits are still strapped AK-47 and other weapons‼️ I’m always amazed to hear people who clearly have no knowledge experience, bravery, courage, or scars of war and warfare talk about things they know nothing about. I suggest you both stick to talking about women, they seem to be all that you both are warriors of‼️
this conversation will go down the history books. I've learned so much from these two guys and I'm looking forward to reading the art of seduction❤.
This was a very tight and concise and articulate discussion. It helped me realize a few things. Thank you 🙏
Thank you for this podcast. Everything he said was true!
I like how he referred to Machiavelli(knowing how to shift with the times), that took me straight to 48 Laws of power.
They made sliding into the adventure of human emotions EXPENSIVE, lol. Plus, social media exacebates the degree to which women want to feel, which raises the bar for what women desire, making it to where the average man can not fulfill those desires.
That's why I dropped out of the market. When the market recognizes my value, I will make the product available again.
@@mickcrovo5238- Some guys just aren't relatable.
Don't be average then
@@rml4289 I’m 6’, fit and athletic, 6-figure income, and socially skilled. If you listened to what they said, it’s not just the average guy who is undervalued, it’s all but the top 10%.
@@rml4289 exactly