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  • Let's talk about a weird line from The Revenge of the Sith Incredible Cross Sections
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  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 11 месяцев назад +2184

    "Whip out your copy of Revenge of the Sith's Incredible Cross-Sections..." Ah, the Star Wars version of "Open your hymnals".

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 11 месяцев назад +71

      So, the "Essential Guide to Warfare" is the SW Bibble, aye?

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 11 месяцев назад +35

      That’s the one with the totally contradictory “turbo lasers fire hundreds of gigatons” nonsense.

    • @idleishde6124
      @idleishde6124 11 месяцев назад +30

      @Gunnar001 It's Gigawatts, and it's actually not that insane. Given the nature of technology of Star Wars and the presence of Ether as a factor in physics it's plausable.

    • @asiblingproduction
      @asiblingproduction 11 месяцев назад +5

      I thought he was going to say something else, caught me off guard. Whip out your coc

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@idleishde6124 Ether is more a marketing term for ship parts in Legends, not an actual thing, they are 100% in vacuum.

  • @tombraiderstrums09
    @tombraiderstrums09 11 месяцев назад +648

    I think it’s the Vong. The NJO books were being actively written while the Prequels were coming out in theaters, so it’s a natural tie-in.

    • @JordonBeal
      @JordonBeal 11 месяцев назад +70

      100% this. Matches with the imperial/vong lore that had been set up at that point.

    • @grannytoes7221
      @grannytoes7221 11 месяцев назад +12

      ​@EternalEmperorofZakuul 100% unrelated to the vong we see in NJO. 4000 years in the past does not add up to what we see in NJO. It's more like that it was a separate scout ship of vong that entered the galaxy, and deemed it a lost cause and left. Later, 4000 years later, another vong colony enters a much different galaxy and deems it worthy of conquest.

    • @dominicpasquale318
      @dominicpasquale318 11 месяцев назад

      Back when kids read books

    • @darklordofsword
      @darklordofsword 11 месяцев назад +1

      I agree, doubly so because the Vong are *actually extra-galactic" whereas the Toff are just from the Unknown Regions.

    • @Seth-Halo
      @Seth-Halo 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​​​@@grannytoes7221how are the vong of 4k years ago not the same as the vong when they invaded?
      Is it not possible that their journey between the Galaxies would have taken more than 4k years?
      It would make sense for them to launch multiple scout ships at various directions hoping to find something for their nomad fleet especially if it's going to take a while to find anything.
      It's more likely that there are numerous vong probes scattered along the rim of the galaxy at least from the direction the vong were coming from.
      I read some ancient 2002 forum posts on how long it took them to reach. Seems inconclusive. Generations, 50 years, 1000 years and one report of a vong creature in the Galaxy 25k years ago. Was a fun but short read.
      For all we know the probe was a one off. Maybe they where investigating breaking out of their galaxy thousands of years ago and that probe happened to be the first object that they managed to send out successfully. Maybe it came from the fleet as a random scatter scout. But it's still related to the Vong. None of its really canon anyway I guess.

  • @PrototypeSpaceMonkey
    @PrototypeSpaceMonkey 11 месяцев назад +588

    I think they mean "Barbarian" in the classical sense. It originally comes from the Greek word "barbaros" meaning foreigners. Anyone not Greek. So in this context, anyone outside of the galaxy would be considered a "barbarian"

    • @Eliphaser
      @Eliphaser 11 месяцев назад +64

      also fits the fascist undertones of the empire, as real life fascist regimes, as well as the nazis, often portrayed other nations and ethnicities as being hordes of disgusting barbarians with no culture or education
      given the empire kinda refers a lot to nazi/imperial japanese propaganda and beliefs, portraying foreigners as uncouth barbarians is something that's fairly fitting

    • @AuxCart
      @AuxCart 11 месяцев назад +6

      First thing I thought of, as well!

    • @MordredSimp
      @MordredSimp 11 месяцев назад +4

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @Okada_Caelun
      @Okada_Caelun 11 месяцев назад +10

      In another work of fiction, the term barbarian is used to denote "less civilized" people, but is stated to be commonly used subjectively by the speaker. IE: Someone from Coruscant might refer to Naboo or Onderon as barbarian systems, while all of the previous would refer to Tatooine as barbarous.
      This has similar application to your explanation, while also potentially having the same context that Eliphaser brought up. "Barbarian" could mean any number of cultures... just not one as great and prosperous as "our" empire (and, thus, not worthy of peaceful negotiations).

    • @swordsman1137
      @swordsman1137 11 месяцев назад +3

      Iirc it's for anyone who not speak either Greek or Roman. But yeah more or less it's what you said

  • @captin3149
    @captin3149 11 месяцев назад +187

    In the Return fo the jedi novelization the Death Star 2 was specifically mentioned ot have the ability to fire multiple shots which the original death star couldn't. It makes sense that in ANH they wouldn't have wasted a long-charging shot on Yavin when they only wanted the moon.

    • @KMCA779
      @KMCA779 11 месяцев назад +29

      they might have also been using the time during the orbit to prep the gun. The charging sequence is probably much longer than the firing one.

    • @---jx3ql
      @---jx3ql 11 месяцев назад +15

      Its said killing a Planet 24h rechare,killing ships 5min

  • @evanlilley8986
    @evanlilley8986 11 месяцев назад +57

    A case for Palpatine being more vague and less direct at a specific threat was the ancient greek example of Pericles, a leader of Athens. He knew that the Persian Empire was going to strike, but knew that people in his hometown didn't consider them an immediate threat, so he justified the building of an Athenian fleet by claiming Sparta and nearby pirates were the more immediate threat, and it worked.

  • @joshuagbe
    @joshuagbe 11 месяцев назад +240

    I remember even as a kid thinking the ROTS book was weird in tone to the others.

  • @Theology.101
    @Theology.101 11 месяцев назад +373

    i always thought that the invaders could be the Ssi-Ruuk. Like “oh no, these Dinos took the planets! Let’s use a death star for it!”

    • @KMCA779
      @KMCA779 11 месяцев назад +10

      Ssi-Ruuk version of the Death Star would be terrifying. You'd practically have to eat the population of the planet in order to fire the super laser.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 11 месяцев назад +11

      Despite common opinion there were a lot of independent and semi-independent forces on outskirts of the Republic. Kaminoans for example lived in small satellite Galaxy, which is why they were off maps. And there was also at least one major rogue force in the same place. Though in this case. Palpatine did know about Vong/Grisk.

    • @javierlopezcoscojuela933
      @javierlopezcoscojuela933 11 месяцев назад +20

      You know what? Palpatine thinking "oh, hey, these fuckers are land-locked because they are terrified of leaving their homeworlds and dying in non-consacrated planets. Let's blow their consacrated planets up. See how they like it" is very much in line with his previous exploits. In fact, throw in a "hey, give me your special life-sucking tech or I end your species in a single campaing of xenocide", which he would do anyways, and there you go. Instant Chad Sheev plot.

    • @Theology.101
      @Theology.101 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@TheRezro True, bur Palp was making a deal with them, intentionally leaving Bakura and a bunch of other planets open so they could be consecrated. And right after Endor, he posts up, wins a few battles, loots their tech then blows up Bakura

    • @Theology.101
      @Theology.101 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@javierlopezcoscojuela933 exactly! rspecially cause he made the death star right next door

  • @Lord-Emperor-Vader
    @Lord-Emperor-Vader 11 месяцев назад +140

    I can’t remember the source I saw this in but the first Death Star was only able to fire it’s super laser once every 24 hours I believe due to how much power it used and that was one of the things that the second Death Star fixed about the station.

    • @draco84oz
      @draco84oz 11 месяцев назад +23

      It was in one of the technical guides, IIRC. The planet-killer laser could only fire once per day, but they included a lower setting for use against capital ships on DSII

    • @welkingunther5417
      @welkingunther5417 11 месяцев назад +8

      I actually like that, it makes sense

    • @andrewbloom7694
      @andrewbloom7694 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@draco84oz The DS1 hit Scarif with a "single reactor" shot, so it seems like it would be pretty easy to do, just don't turn on all of the generators, that way only a little power gets sent through

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@andrewbloom7694 The once per day thing is Legends.

    • @Lord-Emperor-Vader
      @Lord-Emperor-Vader 11 месяцев назад

      @@andrewbloom7694 That did not destroy the planet like Jedha it only caused mass destruction but the planet was still there and still technically habitable but it was made extremally deadly to live on and part the world was missing. It would also still take a few hours to recharge the laser and you could not fire the planet destroying laser right after that.

  • @ethanketter7310
    @ethanketter7310 11 месяцев назад +60

    What can I say, I see Venator thumbnail I click

  • @Praxus42
    @Praxus42 11 месяцев назад +316

    They probably didn't hit Yavin because it was a gas giant. Perhaps it wasn't anywhere near as effective against large, gaseous planets as it was rocky or solid planets.

    • @mathewadams4094
      @mathewadams4094 11 месяцев назад +48

      I wonder if it would just go straight through? or maybe you'd risk igniting the gas giant an making you're self a nice short lived star

    • @Praxus42
      @Praxus42 11 месяцев назад

      they were in orbit. Maybe the homing beacon didn't give them a pinpoint location until they reached the system, and once they did it pinged the 4th moon of Yavin. They were probably too close to blow up the gas giant safely so a shot to the moon would be not only safer but more practical. @@mathewadams4094

    • @andymac4883
      @andymac4883 11 месяцев назад +39

      @@mathewadams4094 I don't think we'd expect a shot to go through, if the line of aim went through the rough centre of the planet. Unless things have changed, gas giants are generally assumed to have a solid core, right?

    • @mathewadams4094
      @mathewadams4094 11 месяцев назад +23

      @@andymac4883 well yes but way deep down. From my minutes of googleing ;) looks like you could shoot through it for the most part. Just need to be careful of the bulleye if you know what i mean.... I wonder if the beam would arc because of the gravity too. I'm sure someones written a very silly paper on this

    • @tomhossain2099
      @tomhossain2099 11 месяцев назад +7

      Nah, going by real world physics, the superlaser overcomes the gravitational binding energy of a planet, so it should affect a gas giant just fine.

  • @MattManDX1
    @MattManDX1 11 месяцев назад +26

    The Yuuzhan Vong books were being written around the time this cross section book was released so they likely added that line as a bit of a nod/cross promotion for the novel series.

  • @watcherzero5256
    @watcherzero5256 11 месяцев назад +71

    Theres some lines in one of the early Vong novels along the lines of the Emperor have forseen the Vong invasion but I think thats really a retcon, in Outbound Flight its explained the enemy that Palpatine was preparing the galaxy for with the help of Thrawn wasnt extra-galactic, it was from the Unknown Regions and it was an enemy the Chiss were already engaged in a guerrilla campaign (not the word it uses but described like a hit and run cold war) to prevent them escaping into the rest of the galaxy. It cant be the Vong as before their galactic invasion the Chiss had never encountered them and were just as unprepared for their bio-organic gravity manipulating technology.

    • @KMCA779
      @KMCA779 11 месяцев назад +4

      There's the whole thing with Zonama Sekot that happened when Anakin was still a child/padawan. I think that's where Palpatine got his initial info about it, then contact with the Chiss likely gave him clearer information. Then there's Ssi-Ruuk, if they'd gotten their foothold at Bakura they could have been an issue for the pre-militarized galaxy.

    • @SchneeflockeMonsoon
      @SchneeflockeMonsoon 11 месяцев назад +3

      Zhan has admitted he originally wanted the Grysks in the Legends books, but he had to adapt their plotline to the new canon when they reset the timeline.

    • @josesanchezrodriguez1783
      @josesanchezrodriguez1783 11 месяцев назад +4

      Nah, I'm pretty sure Outbound Flight has them be the Vong in all but name

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@josesanchezrodriguez1783 Grisk are Vong. Someone can interpret them as vanguard infiltrators, who were probing Republic, around same time as Clone Wars did take place. Zhan used opportunity to fix big problem of Vong being overpowered, with them using intimidation practices and propaganda, to pretend that they were stronger then actually were. They main advantage was use of alternative drive what allow them movement outside hyperlines, though not as fast as hyperdrive. So they could strike with massive armada places considered as safe and secluded. Even if in reality they weren't nowhere as OP as Vong in Legends (what are Legends after all).

    • @josesanchezrodriguez1783
      @josesanchezrodriguez1783 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@TheRezro The only thing the Grysk have in common with the Vong is that they are invaders from outside the main galaxy. The most important characteristic of the Vong is their technophobia, the Grysk have no qualms using technology, the Vong are cut off from the force, the Grysk can still be sensed by force users and they can be affected by force-based attacks, the Vong are masochists that love inflicting pain, the Grysk are just assholes, the Vong come from outside the galaxy, the Grysk come from the Unknown Regions.
      Where are you getting that the Vong had an alternative method to hyperspace?

  • @gildedbear5355
    @gildedbear5355 11 месяцев назад +47

    Without looking up any canonical information on Yavin 4. The word "moon" doesn't say anything about size or mass, it only refers to the fact that the body in question orbits something other than a star. The fact that the rebels operating off of Yavin 4 walk around the way we expect them to implies that Yavin 4 is pretty close to Earth size (and thus also pretty close to Alderaan size since people live on Aklderaan). The attack of the Death Star on yavin 4 would have been a comparable power to the attack on Alderaan.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 11 месяцев назад +6

      Yep it is a moon of a gas giant those things get massive.

    • @garavin
      @garavin 11 месяцев назад +3

      Tarkin could've used a Scarif-power shot if they could target the Massassi base directly, but that might've meant waiting for the moon to rotate, or for the DS to move into orbit around Yavin IV, wasting precious time in which the Rebels could make a run for it.
      A full-power shot, on the other hand, takes care of the base and the Rebel Scum infesting it no matter where it is on the moon.

    • @simonwinn8757
      @simonwinn8757 11 месяцев назад +2

      Earth like gravity can be misleading, as we don't know the composition of the moon's structure. If the moon had a platinum core instead of a iron core like earth, you could get away with roughly earth's moon in size with earth's gravity.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@simonwinn8757 I don't think it is the size of Earth's Moon. Remember this is a gas giant moon we are looking out. Naturally it is going to be much larger than the moons of molten planets. It needs to be too to have the magnetic field to contain an atmosphere.

    • @gildedbear5355
      @gildedbear5355 11 месяцев назад

      @@simonwinn8757 okay, that's true, we don't know its composition. However, even if it had a solid platinum core that would still make the mass closer to Earth's mass (though not quite as much because of the smaller diameter) and so would still need a closer to full power shot because of the gravitational binding energy of the platinum core compared to a similarly sized iron one.
      Somebody could, if they wanted to, do the math to put together a chart of planet size to density with the line of Earth surface gravity. (as well as note the gravitational binding energy so we know how much energy is required to blow it up) However, I don't think that's needed to say, "if you can walk around on the surface of a body like you can on Earth then the Deathstar probably needs a full powered shot to blow it up". But that's me *shrug*

  • @teslasnek
    @teslasnek 11 месяцев назад +70

    If you read the death Star section of those same cross section books, they tell you that the first death Star had to wait 24 hours between shooting at super laser to recharge, whereas the second death Star built above endor could shoot its laser every 20 minutes or so

    • @kjj26k
      @kjj26k 11 месяцев назад +12

      That is an absolutely insane difference.
      Like going from flintlock to automatic rifles.
      Really makes the DS1 out as a prototype.

    • @uthopia27
      @uthopia27 11 месяцев назад +2

      Did the 2nd death Star build while the first one still exists or it was a replacement because the first one is destroyed?

    • @teslasnek
      @teslasnek 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@uthopia27 the emperor ordered the construction of the second death Star immediately after the destruction of the first

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju 11 месяцев назад +5

      Death Star 2 was probably able to adjust and fine-tune the power output of its main weapon. Death Star 1 was all-or-nothing, at least in the original trilogy.

    • @teslasnek
      @teslasnek 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@Mark-in8ju in Rogue One, the first death Star could tune the energy output of it's super laser to be either more or less destructive

  • @Steve-em4tb
    @Steve-em4tb 11 месяцев назад +26

    Palpy knew about the Vong through Thrawn, as Thrawn and the Chiss had encountered and fought Vong scout flotillas during the Prequel era.

  • @PickleRick65
    @PickleRick65 11 месяцев назад +9

    If they had blown up Yavin (a gas giant) they would have been caught in the insanely large explosion/expansion

  • @krisgonynor689
    @krisgonynor689 11 месяцев назад +10

    Yavin is a gas giant - besides the fact it may be too big even for the Death Star to destroy - shooting into it's atmosphere from that close a distance may have caused the atmosphere, assuming it to be mostly hydrogen, to start to fuse. Setting off a temporary star that close to the Death Star may have destroyed it as well. It would have cooked Yavin 4, too, but the Death Star looked to be closer to the planet, like they were trying to sneak up on the Rebels.
    Really, once they knew where the base was, Star Destroyers could have bombarded it from orbit and destroyed it. But the Emperor wanted to show off his new toy...

    • @durshurrikun150
      @durshurrikun150 11 месяцев назад +1

      The hydrogen in Yavin could have never fused, it was too cold and too thin for fusion to occur.

    • @krisgonynor689
      @krisgonynor689 11 месяцев назад

      @@durshurrikun150 Yavin was in the Goldie locks position in it's solar system, I doubt it was cold at all. May have been to warm for hydrogen to exist in a stable state though.
      The power in the Death Star's superlaser would have caused some of the hydrogen in it's path to fuse. We use lasers now to try to make fusion power plants work - something like that superlaser would have been enough to cause hydrogen to fuse on contact.

    • @durshurrikun150
      @durshurrikun150 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@krisgonynor689 You don't understand physics.
      It is beyond stupid to confront the climate of a terrestrial earth like moon like Yavin 4, which is primarily made of rocks with a metal core with volatiles making a small part of its mass with a gas giant primarily made of hydrogen and helium.
      It would still be colder than Yavin 4, due to Yavin having an higher albedo, meaning less absorption of radiation.
      Second, the average temperature of Yavin would go from 180 K to 293 K, which is far far below the temperature required for hydrogen fusion.
      Not to mention that hydrogen fusion also requires huge pressures.
      So no, the death would not cause some of the hydrogen to fuse, not to mention that the experiment set up in real life test labs only work with tritium and deuterium and they work on a small scale.
      the best the death star can do is temporarily heat up a very small part of Yavin's atmosphere which would then cool again by radiating energy into space and in the mixing of the planet's atmosphere.

  • @leiferikson850
    @leiferikson850 11 месяцев назад +9

    Regarding not mentioning the Vong by name, keep in mind they were already there... Even during the Mandalorian Wars they had scouts in the galaxy... Its very possible that openly talking about the Vong during the Galactic Civil War would reach their surveiling scouts and thus forced them to either attack sooner or change their plan from open invasion to Sith-Esque inflitration and sabotage instead of open conflict which is far harder to fight against on large scale....

  • @appo9357
    @appo9357 11 месяцев назад +29

    I would’ve loved to see the Vong in live action.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 11 месяцев назад

      They are in books under name Grisk

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 11 месяцев назад +6

      I want to see the Vong in a Doom 2016 style Dark Forces entry. Where Kyle just rips and tears.

    • @appo9357
      @appo9357 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheRezro but is that live action?

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju 11 месяцев назад +3

      Definitely R-rated

  • @wolfbyte3171
    @wolfbyte3171 11 месяцев назад +10

    And remember, Yavin was saved because the main operator of the DS-1 laser was wracked with guilt from the destruction of Alderaan. His stalling let the lucky shot through.

    • @toddkes5890
      @toddkes5890 11 месяцев назад +4

      And the one TIE fighter ramming into Vader to knock Vader off course?

    • @earlware4322
      @earlware4322 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@toddkes5890That was probably the Force (or Obi's force ghost) saving Luke's butt.

  • @xSpocKx
    @xSpocKx 11 месяцев назад

    Great content!
    Your guys outro really is the best.

  • @nicholaswong6737
    @nicholaswong6737 11 месяцев назад +9

    SPHA-T, RX2000, Victory Class, and Republic Commandos were not highlighted enough in the TCW.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 11 месяцев назад +37

    There's a lot of weird things in the RotS cross sections, the very very very big hard numbers, Pamat which is the unfortunate first Holdo manuver-ish mention, the relative power levels for Venators vs Recusants. Also the Mandators which Lucasfilm seemed to turn into a meme of never showing up visually.

    • @arandomperson7713
      @arandomperson7713 11 месяцев назад +15

      There’s a difference between the Holdo Manoeuvre and what happened at Pammant. At Pammant, the thing that actually dealt the damage was the Battlecruiser’s reactor detonating, not the actual kinetic energy.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@arandomperson7713 I sure hope so

    • @TheKatamariguy
      @TheKatamariguy 11 месяцев назад +3

      The big energy yields were Curtis Saxton's thing, right?

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@TheKatamariguy I mean the whole book was Saxton on text, but yes he's famous for big yields. Which I mean kinda sorta are demonstrated on screen but at the same time you can't always be consistent about that.

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 11 месяцев назад

      @@TheKatamariguyHe wanked numbers so hard it was hilarious. Completely unsupported onscreen.

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 11 месяцев назад +28

    We need more that for more Star Wars ships.

  • @apesonwheels696
    @apesonwheels696 11 месяцев назад +2

    Dude the vehicle cross section book just unlocked some deep memory

  • @LegendsLiterature
    @LegendsLiterature 11 месяцев назад +7

    Great to see you discuss the Tof. I love the Nagai-Tof War. A goldmine of wacky ship designs and fun zany stories. Didn’t get enough mention in the EU hence the name “The Forgotten War”.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 11 месяцев назад

      Of course the Tof were scary.
      2.5 meters tall, ate lightning, crapped thunder... Wait, that was Rocky Balboa, except for the height thing.

  • @wify0241
    @wify0241 11 месяцев назад +3

    Omg no I need to find my phantom menace cross section book my god i loved that

  • @martijnvanweele6204
    @martijnvanweele6204 11 месяцев назад +3

    I like the idea that the Death Star needs a lot of recharge time for its planet-killing shots. It is a reasonable weakness for a battelstation that is intended to one-shot any target.
    I like this for ligthsabers as well. Many people bring up that quickly deactivating and reactivating a lightsaber to bypass a block or parry could be an effective technique, but it only works if you can reactivate your lightsaber immediately after deactivating it. I don't recall any canon moment where a lightsaber is reactivated less than a few seconds after it's been deactivated.

    • @callumpears1523
      @callumpears1523 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah the lightsaber thing is a tiny issue I have with TLJ when Kylo does a quick on/off to kill the guard behind him. They could've just had it take a couple of seconds longer and it would still have been cool.

    • @oygemprime3864
      @oygemprime3864 11 месяцев назад +1

      This has been mentioned as a technique that existed, but was really hard to do because if you got it wrong, you left yourself *way* open, and then you're toast

  • @Max_Pilgrim
    @Max_Pilgrim 11 месяцев назад

    Good content ngl. First vid of yours Ive seen. Im hooked, subbed

  • @SageofStars
    @SageofStars 11 месяцев назад +4

    Yeah, the Vong sound like the thing. After all, the tie ins to them go way back, and in fact, are mentioned twice in NJO as being one of the deciding factors for Shiv to conquer the galaxy NOW as opposed to any other time.
    Also, what word would you use? Barbarian sounds pretty accurate to me. Demon, Monster, Marauder, are all alos good fits for the bastards.

  • @cakes8172
    @cakes8172 11 месяцев назад +1

    I absolutely love the 1 second clip of the muppet Star Wars cross ober

  • @shanehudson3995
    @shanehudson3995 11 месяцев назад +4

    Ssi-Ruuk fit the bill pretty well.
    The moment they sensed a weakness in the Empire, they invaded Bakura.

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 11 месяцев назад

      The Ssi-Ruuk work more because Palpatine is making crap up to justify continuing the military buildup. He let the fluties attack Imperial worlds as part of a deal he made with them so he knows they exist,

  • @THeFudimentals
    @THeFudimentals 11 месяцев назад +13

    After all these years you’re still my favorite RUclipsr

  • @omartorres5688
    @omartorres5688 11 месяцев назад +4

    Just think if a satellite from the Milky way made into the Star Wars Galaxy and it's picked up by the rebels

    • @bluehero-96
      @bluehero-96 11 месяцев назад

      Well, it was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away... the rebellion doesn't exist anymore.

  • @gbiallas5728
    @gbiallas5728 11 месяцев назад +1

    In the "Star Wars Complete Vehicles" book, on page 151 in the top-right corner we can see a star destroyer that we have never seen before.

  • @billdestroyerofworlds
    @billdestroyerofworlds 11 месяцев назад +1

    This was a book published in the mid 2000s after Lucasfilm's book division had just spent the last five years putting out 25 books about the Jedi fighting the Yuuzhan Vong. It's pretty clearly a reference to the Yuuzhan Vong.

  • @derekgornall2
    @derekgornall2 11 месяцев назад

    I used to go to the public library and just look at the pictures on those big SW encyclopedia books when i was a kid... so cool to see again!

  • @kingjonny394
    @kingjonny394 11 месяцев назад +2

    I love those books so much, read them so many times

  • @18videowatcher41
    @18videowatcher41 11 месяцев назад +1

    I find it fascinating how the Vong were hinted at in the first KotoR game in a story told by Canderous Oreo.

  • @notjman7979
    @notjman7979 11 месяцев назад

    Heard your voice and immediately was like "wait does this guy have a hockey channel?"

  • @ross.metcalf
    @ross.metcalf 11 месяцев назад

    I have this book! I need to look through them all again. I loved looking through them as a kid but haven't look at them in a long time.

  • @Kaiber_Phoenix
    @Kaiber_Phoenix 11 месяцев назад

    Ive had that cross-sections book since i was a teen and ive never noticed the last part of that paragraph. Ill definitely have to pull it out and have a look provided it doesn't disintegrate upon contact with sunlight 😅 as its been in a storage box under the bed well over a decade and a bit.

  • @roland4240
    @roland4240 11 месяцев назад

    talk about a coincidence, I found the vehicle cross section books for ep i & ii in a goodwill today

  • @steved3737
    @steved3737 11 месяцев назад

    That Corgi outro is always a treat

  • @Daniel-Strain
    @Daniel-Strain 11 месяцев назад +3

    The Death Star probably has enough power to destroy generally earth-sized planets, but a gas giant is MUCH MUCH larger, and my guess would be it couldn't destroy something that big. Also, the power level to destroy a capital ship HAS to be much less than a planet. That was probably a single-reactor ignition that got the Mon Cala cruiser.

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju 11 месяцев назад +1

      Death Star 2 was probably able to adjust and fine-tune the power output of its main weapon. Death Star 1 was all-or-nothing, at least in the original trilogy.

    • @Daniel-Strain
      @Daniel-Strain 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Mark-in8ju We have absolutely no reason to suppose the DS in the original movie was "all or nothing". We also have no reason to suppose it wasn't. It simply isn't covered. All we know is that the station has enough power to destroy a planet.

    • @basedeltazero714
      @basedeltazero714 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Daniel-Strain It was stated in one of the companion booklets that detailed the Death Star, the SD-01 Technical Readout or something like that.
      Rogue One retconned a strict interpretation, at least. It's possible that the Death Star 2 was *more* flexible, perhaps by having banks of capacitors instead of just one, or simply using its larger size for more redundancy. (and that book also mentions that another key factor is that the DS2 had much better targeting and 'beam steering' mechanisms so it could actually *hit* something as small and maneuverable as a capital ship, since Palpatine eventually realized that being able to shoot at ships would be handy.)

    • @Daniel-Strain
      @Daniel-Strain 11 месяцев назад

      @@basedeltazero714 Oh that's interesting. I hadn't realized a tech book had specifically stated DS1 was all or nothing. Point taken, although like you said, we now know more from Rogue One. Thanks for the info!

  • @jeffreycarman2185
    @jeffreycarman2185 11 месяцев назад

    The lore has some strange stuff. Thanks for the video

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 11 месяцев назад +1

    I would like to see the extra-galatic clients that the Muun Intergalactic Blanking Clan deals with.

  • @michaelmccaughan687
    @michaelmccaughan687 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm pretty sure it's the Vong. Rogue Planet came out around the same time or slightly before.

  • @Kamiyoda
    @Kamiyoda 11 месяцев назад +2

    ICS is one of the Calcs of all time

  • @azuresstuff2363
    @azuresstuff2363 11 месяцев назад

    i remember there being a whole ass like UN meeting of us kids on who gets to borrow the cross sections books from the school library next and who will get it after them.

  • @dave.station935
    @dave.station935 11 месяцев назад +2

    Woah, the guy that does hockey videos has a Star Wars channel? Cool!!!

  • @NinjahDuk
    @NinjahDuk 11 месяцев назад

    I have a note on the question at the end. Yavin seems like a resource rich planet, blowing it up would be silly.

  • @user-cd4bx6uq1y
    @user-cd4bx6uq1y 11 месяцев назад +1

    The ending was amazing

  • @benrowe301
    @benrowe301 11 месяцев назад +1

    Kamino was just outside of the galaxy, there must have been many more inhabited systems that may have been capable of raising potentially dangerous fleets and raiding the inner worlds. Even if none of them ever intended to do anything like that, the Empire would use fear of that in order to maintain their own fleets.

  • @Captainkebbles1392
    @Captainkebbles1392 11 месяцев назад +1

    The cross sections always had amusingly "wtf? Where did that come from" Easter eggs in them. I think they very much where meant to be Easter Eggs.

  • @DarkVaati13
    @DarkVaati13 11 месяцев назад

    Very pleasantly surprised to see the Tof get a mention here. Love the old marvel comics and I think the Tof-Nagai conflict definitely could have gotten some expansion later on. At the end of Legacy 2 we still don't know what happened to Darth Nihl since he likely didn't fight at the the battle so I always imagined he retreated back to the Firefist, became a warlord again, and rebuilt the Sith Order there. So about a hundred years later the next Sith War doubled as a second Tof-Nagai invasion.

  • @rickynelson8004
    @rickynelson8004 11 месяцев назад +1

    And here I thought you were going to question the inclusion of every heavy turbo laser shot having a power output of like 200 megatons taking the starwars power scaling into joke territory

  • @battlefieldpro12345
    @battlefieldpro12345 11 месяцев назад

    I got some detailed blueprint posters of various star wars blasters and starfighters from some book its pretty cool

  • @VictorMistral
    @VictorMistral 11 месяцев назад +1

    For why they didn't destroy Yavin, I think that Yavin as a gaz giant, so it might be too big to destroy, additionally, the laser might be tailored to be effective against a crust, maybe even more so if the crust "floats" on a liquid mantle. Yavin-4 might be small small enough that the mantle didn't need to be hot, but Yavin itself might lack crust and mantle.
    Or Yavin was too heavy to disperse with the super laser, so it could have been destroyed, but it's gravity not changed enough to throw the moon off to space.
    And throwing the moon off to space would leave the rebel with time to escape.

  • @Oculas2003
    @Oculas2003 11 месяцев назад +1

    From "Outbound Flight"
    "Sidious explains that Outbound Flight, and the Jedi, are a grave threat to the Republic - specifically, because Outbound Flight's path will take them directly into the projected home of an immensely powerful and hostile alien empire (though unnamed, the clear implication is that they are the Yuuzhan Vong). Sidious's agents discovered the existence of this empire some years ago, and since then he has been doing his best to prepare the Core Worlds for the invasion he believes is inevitable. If Outbound Flight reaches the aliens first, the invasion may come too soon. Thrawn appears to take Sidious seriously, and agrees to help Doriana and Kav destroy Outbound Flight."

  • @pyroduck
    @pyroduck 11 месяцев назад

    Its still weird how the guy I go to for hockey drama is also a great starwars lore youtuber

  • @lucasbosier6808
    @lucasbosier6808 11 месяцев назад +1

    “Hey I’m building these Death stars for you guys, you should be thanking me not blowing them up!!”

  • @forgottenfamily
    @forgottenfamily 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm not sold it's not the Vong. The timing was shortly after NJO finished, and the Vong actually fix quite a few details about the Empire's fleet design.

  • @darlhiatt8136
    @darlhiatt8136 11 месяцев назад

    I don't have that cross section book to check, but if the Venator class doesn't come with a bowling alley they're doing it wrong.

  • @danielgertler5976
    @danielgertler5976 11 месяцев назад

    Come for the Star Wars stay for the dog end clip.

  • @LewisChristisonVids
    @LewisChristisonVids 11 месяцев назад +3

    I always just figured it was easier, safer, and more of a sure thing to spend 15 minutes going around Yavin; then to charge up the main canon, blow up a gas giant, cool down the canon, recharge the canon, then blow up Yavin 4.

  • @stainlesssteelfox1
    @stainlesssteelfox1 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think the reason they didn't just blow up Yavin was because they couldn't. Yavin was a gas giant large enough to have an Earth-like moon, 200,000 km in diameter according to Wookiepedia. Jupiter is only 140,000 km wide, and it has 317 times the mass of Earth (or Alderaan) and 1300 times the volume. Assuming Yavin was no more dense than Jupiter, that is 919 times the mass and 3770 times the volume.
    Gravitational Binding Energy of a body is 3GM^2 / 5R. Let's calculate it in Earth units. GBE = M^2 / 5R, as GBE is binding energy of Earth, M is mass in Earth masses, and R is radii in Earth radii. M = 919 and R = 100,000 / 6371 = 15.697
    GBE = 919 ^2 / 5 x15.697 = 844561 / 78.48 = 10761 Earth GBEs.
    So the Death Star would have had to put out over 10,000 times as much power as it did for Alderaan to blow up Yavin. That would almost certainly be beyond it's ability.
    Of course that still doesn't answer the question of why they didn't just hyperjump in at a position with a clear shot at Yavin 4, rather than behind Yavin.

  • @koreratman329
    @koreratman329 11 месяцев назад

    Man I was just looking at these.

  • @alfredbyrd249
    @alfredbyrd249 11 месяцев назад

    Good vid as always

  • @meemmahn2856
    @meemmahn2856 11 месяцев назад +2

    In the time of the Roman Empire, a barbarian was anyone outside the empire. If you use that definition but for the galactic empire, the vong were absolutely barbarians.

  • @blackout198341
    @blackout198341 11 месяцев назад

    There are easter eggs in those cross sections and maps. You can find a concorde airplane in the original Mos Espa map

  • @ryanjones5133
    @ryanjones5133 11 месяцев назад

    I help out at a charity shop every Thursday afternoon and I found and got a original copy from 1977 of the book version of A new hope

  • @dragonking2719
    @dragonking2719 11 месяцев назад

    What was the game play of the ships called

  • @Lord-Emperor-Vader
    @Lord-Emperor-Vader 11 месяцев назад +5

    #Askeck Do you agree with my assessment of how the canon Galaxy would do against the Vong. If it was done before the Sequel Trilogy then the First and Final order let the conquest happen and once Yuuzhan-Tar is established most likely on Hosnian Prime they first use Starkiller base to wipe out Yuuzhan-Tar and most of the Vong fleet and lure the rest to Starkiller base where they are wiped out by the Final Order. Palpatine takes Kylo Ren’s body and rules the Galaxy both through fear and the fact he is the Galaxy’s savior in the worst case scenario and is killed by Luke Skywalker who leads a Galactic uprising in the best case scenario. I think that the worst case is more likely because I think Luke would be convinced to fight the Vong by Han or Leia and die in the war. and I don’t know if the Galaxy could beat the Final Order ships once launched but there is a better chance with them being hardened by the war with the Vong. If the Vong attack after episode 9 then they win.

  • @birdinmotion1525
    @birdinmotion1525 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hey can anyone answer my question, is there a time described before ftl travel? Or atleast it's discovery and the first expansions of the galaxu

    • @justindunlap1235
      @justindunlap1235 11 месяцев назад

      I remember reading a book about the early days of ftl travel and the perils of it, I can't remember the name it was years ago.

    • @FHT1883
      @FHT1883 11 месяцев назад

      The Essential Atlas goes into the history of space exploration pre-FTL (including colony ships). The earliest non-reference-book in the timeline are the Dawn of the Jedi comics, set at a time where the Rakata already have FTL. It is reasonable to assume the Celestials had it as well.

  • @captiannemo1587
    @captiannemo1587 11 месяцев назад +1

    I would have thought the hangerless variant of the imperial to be the interesting point.

  • @jakegaria9124
    @jakegaria9124 11 месяцев назад

    I remember something in the Essential Guide to Warfare book about some imperials ex post facto justifying Palpatine’s military buildup via the Vong threat but it was portrayed as probably not true

  • @basedmcgee2796
    @basedmcgee2796 10 месяцев назад +1

    he's whipping his copy out!

  • @NL-X
    @NL-X 11 месяцев назад +3

    From what I know about the Death Star is that the 1st one needed 1 day to recharge the beam canon, while the 2nd needed only 3 minutes. That's one of the reasons why the 2nd was better

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju 11 месяцев назад +1

      Death Star 2 was probably able to adjust and fine-tune the power output of its main weapon. Death Star 1 was all-or-nothing, at least in the original trilogy.

  • @-SpaceFrog-
    @-SpaceFrog- 11 месяцев назад +1

    The youtuber who introduced me to A.L.I.S.O.N. amazing music

  • @micheljavert5923
    @micheljavert5923 11 месяцев назад +1

    Space Vikings. It’s always f&cking Space Vikings!
    (Exar Kun, that hyper-angry muhfuh, would have haunted the sh!t out of Vader and Palpatine for blowing up his tomb on Yavin.)

  • @chrismurphyracing94
    @chrismurphyracing94 7 месяцев назад

    Well thanks...id never heard the Bigger Luke thing before...and now my brain hurts

  • @edwardportell4955
    @edwardportell4955 11 месяцев назад +1

    I was about 4 when I saw Star Wars for the first time. (It was a drive in in California so that should date me). At the time the graphic on the death star of the attack on Yavin made no sense to me. I understood what the moon graphic was but didn't get the weird swirly thing in front of it. It took me multiple viewings and a couple of years for it to click I was seeing a transparent view of the gas giant.

  • @Tazter25
    @Tazter25 11 месяцев назад

    If ya shoot a gas giant with a big laser, it's can turn into a star for a brief amount of time as it burns dense hydrogen atoms

  • @uniball5667
    @uniball5667 11 месяцев назад

    What mod for Empire at War is being used?

  • @danielkorczak3003
    @danielkorczak3003 11 месяцев назад

    what mod of empire at war are you showing in your vids?

  • @DanBen07
    @DanBen07 11 месяцев назад

    Have you looked at other DK books with the venator cross-section in maybe there's more text that can help?

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 11 месяцев назад +1

      There are only two DK books which discuss the Venator the Revenge of the Sith Cross-section (which got reprinted wholesale in Star Wars Complete vehicles) and the Clone Wars Incredible Vehicles book. The latter doesn’t mention the Emperor or anything that is extra-galactic outside of the parts about Kamino.

  • @Nidhoggrr
    @Nidhoggrr 11 месяцев назад +1

    I always thought the Death Star could vary the beam power by choosing how many of the crystals were going to be employed during the charge sequence.

    • @justindunlap1235
      @justindunlap1235 11 месяцев назад +2

      in rouge one "single reactor ignitions" were used to destroy the holy city on Jeddah, and the outpost on scarif.

    • @AlyssMa7rin
      @AlyssMa7rin 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@justindunlap1235 Something similar was used during the razing of Despayre in the Death Star Novel.

  • @masonanderlot9363
    @masonanderlot9363 11 месяцев назад

    What was the game near the start of the vid and end

  • @user-cd4bx6uq1y
    @user-cd4bx6uq1y 11 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting stuff

  • @bradhedgehog12
    @bradhedgehog12 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love cross section books too.

  • @seekertwo1
    @seekertwo1 11 месяцев назад

    Palps coul also have included the Chiss and other Unknown Regions powers in his threat assessment. A civilization of Thrawns could make even a Sith nervous....

  • @athleteantiquities
    @athleteantiquities 11 месяцев назад

    What is the game shown here and there in the video where capital ships are fighting?

    • @sakkra93
      @sakkra93 10 месяцев назад

      Empire at War, it's a modded version

  • @andrewj1754
    @andrewj1754 11 месяцев назад +2

    A weird design thing with the Death Stars, which I sure is answer everywhere, is how does it launch itself through hyperspace? It doesn't have obvious thrust drives, and to get to Yavin4, it orbits the gas giant.... Surely something that big required significant power to get into hyperspeed. That always bugged me about the first Death Star.

    • @AdmiralBlackstar
      @AdmiralBlackstar 11 месяцев назад +3

      It has engines along it's equator.

    • @enisra_bowman
      @enisra_bowman 11 месяцев назад

      @@AdmiralBlackstar like mentioned in the ANH Crosssection Book :D

  • @austingarcia6060
    @austingarcia6060 11 месяцев назад

    What is the name of the game that is being played at 6:13 ?

  • @joshpeck9266
    @joshpeck9266 11 месяцев назад

    “Empires need constant wars to justify their existence”

  • @LD-Orbs
    @LD-Orbs 11 месяцев назад

    I'm very late... but... I'm glad to hear Resonance again. 😁

  • @Klipik12
    @Klipik12 11 месяцев назад

    I never imagined the death star could actually destroy Yavin the gas giant.

  • @andrewslovak1
    @andrewslovak1 11 месяцев назад

    Where is the clip at 0:53 from?

  • @chai8941
    @chai8941 11 месяцев назад +1

    having not finished the video yet, we know the Republic was modeled after the Late Roman Republic. the Romans, as we all know, were constantly troubled by “barbarian” invaders from beyond the Rhine and Danube. and this was used as justification for militarization and expansionism within the Roman state. Caesar used the barbarism of the Gauls as justification for his war against them.