An old trick that truck drivers used was to have a shut off valve in the fuel return line, if they struggled up hills, they used to shut down that valve a bit to give them more power.
Ed, if only you could get hold of one of those big bus AC compressors, lineset, evaporator and the condenser, hook it up to this thing and you have a diesel powered air conditioner :D
That engine needs a good load on it, if you have a very large induction motor, make a induction motor generator using capacitors. Or may be stick a large refrigeration compressor on it LOL.
The screw at the end of the pump that is near the radiator i would say is the fuel adjustment screw, take the cap of and loose the lock nut and try wich way turning increases fuel rate, but dont put the screw at max right away, it might lock the gas at full. When i did srew the fiatagri i have as my profile picture, i adjustet the screw right to the max, the engine reved 3500rpm+ right away when i did start it :o good think that these iveco motors can handle big rev's.
you are lucky. its still mech injection. the late model ivecos are a real shit boxes, i have a eurocargo with the tector motor that is an electronic pain in the ass hole. yeah i always just take it a couple turns at a time, no need for runaways :P
You can accept the recovery of exhaust energy with the boost without turning up the fuel. They smoke too much at low speeds with high fuel and no aneroid.
the one under the cap looks to be the smoke screw mate take a good photo of its position now for reference, and loosen it off a few turns, try again, see if you get a bit of black smoke under throttle changes, keep playing until its where you like :) this should also change the amount of power produced when the engine is under load
Just discovered your channel, great mod by the way! I have a variable geometry garett turbo on my ford tdci 1.6 which I think is similar to what you have, be sure to check on the stator vanes lever position and lock them wide open so it works like a traditional turbo. It just sounds to me like they are closed thats all! Greetings from Greece!
Ed not had chance to watch video yet, but you wont get much boost reading until you load the engine up, not sure if you are fully loading it or just revving it up, but if its making 5psi just revving it, it iwll make plenty of bosot under load, and with more fuel will make good power!
if you put this in a small car, with 15 or 18 lbs boost, you could hit 100 mpg, but the ramp for the fuel increase under the cover on the pump, you just have to rotate it sooner.
Reminds me of when I stuck a little turbo on my one cylinder 350cc (gas) ATV LOL! It spooled to 10 PSI of boost but I never did get the carb to feed right. :-(
I used a VNT turbo from a Jeep Liberty 2.8 V6 Diesel on a Saturn 1.9 Liter I4 gas engine and it worked GOOD! While the turbo came with a vacuum operated actuator for the variable nozzles, I welded a bracket on to use a standard waste gate actuator and it worked the first time. Well, it regulated around 8PSI or so just great until I removed the muffle after the turbo. Then the boost creeped up to 13 to 15 PSI and the detonation cracked two pistons. :-/
Aussie50 There was like no lag in the Saturn turbo project. But of course diesel engines use smaller turbo's anyway so a 2.8 diesel turbo worked great on the smaller 1.9 gas engine.
Would a mechanical diesel like that still keep running if you disconnected the battery while it was running. Scrap Heep Challenge always use to say diesel were less reliant on the electronics.
All the old school diesels with a mechanical fuel pump I've worked around will keep running no worries - Electronics are only used for the senders, starter and Stop Solenoid. Yanmar's are good donks - very popular for yachts.
+TheEPROM9 Yes, because it maintains its own heat since Rudolf Diesel first designed it using the Compression Ignition Combustion based on the Adiabatic Principle. Basically, it compresses the fuel to burn and that allows it to run without a battery, the battery is only for spinning it over.
+TheEPROM9 Yes, my boat has a single cylinder yanmar and to stop it you have to shut off fuel supply by puller on a lever. Doesn't even have glowplugs for starting. Hand starting without battery is possible too but hard work.
I've made keys to a few small Yanmar tractors lately, and honestly they all sound just like that. Must be a whole lot of bad mounts. Last one was less than 100 hours old and still had rattles.
You won't get much boost from a diesel unless it's loaded. My patrol won't boost at all free revving but makes 5lb at 1500 rpm and 15 at 2000 up once the thing is driving the vehicle along the road. Is that white motor off to the left a 3 phase? you could make a generator out of that for the diesel motor just by adding some caps. I have a couple of vids of the one I did and it works well. You could hook it up and back feed the grid to reduce your power bill. Run veg oil in the yanmar for free fuel.
Hi eddy' Mate thats working great, ya correct on that it could do with a smaller turbo if ya come across one mate, maybe a turbo of a 1ltr engine would do it perfect! It would sound so cool....😉 Dont ya just love diesel engines!!!! Iv just got myself a diesel mate! Its on google plus, you wont be disappointed 😉 Thanks for sharing, 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍THUMBS UP 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
Just got a vz21 turbo for my 3tne72 (yes they made 72’s) Haven’t put it on yet, gotta do some other things including casting a new sae5 bellhousing out of aluminum so I can sell the new iron one I just bought to use as a pattern, at $500 usd no way I’m keeping the iron one lol. What did you end up putting the motor in? I love these little yanmar’s, when I decided I wanted a generator it was a no brainer, diesel, yanmar, and Craigslist. Under $900 for just the motor isn’t too shabby
To really get good results out of a turbo, the compression would have to be lowered, and the injection timing changed. It would at least need new pistons.
hey bud, great video as always! i would also suggest a sony Handycam camcorder...i have one and am very pleased with it. very clear and sharp video. good luck in your camera buying!
also, i can tell you the mic on that camera can take some very loud noises without distortion--i use mine mainly to film offroad truck/quad/dirtbike racing. figured that would be a plus seeing that you have the same sense of fun that i do XD
Awesome build. I am building something similar for an old grey market tractor with 2cyl yanmar. Wanting to add a turbo but haven't figured out how to turn up the fuel volume. Did you ever play around with the smoke screw?
Nice setup there, love your vids. Just a suggestion, the turbo oil drain line should have the most direct route to the sump possible. Should be possible to shorten the line by facing it backwards and go diagonally down to the sump fitting. Only issue you could have if it's not more direct the returning oil that is now aerated after going through the bearings can build up and force it's way out the turbo shaft oil seals. Seems to be okay in the mean time though :) Cheers.
Aussie50 right now diesel in my town is $3.65 US per gallon regular gasoline is $3.21 ,and ethanol blend gas is $2.92 diesel engines are actually making a come back here in the US,,there are several new american car models with an available diesel engine ,,and dodge introduced a 1/2 ton truck with a 3.0 liter turbo diesel which gets an amazing 32mpg ,,I have a friend who bought a 2014 dodge ram Ecodiesel and he loves it cause it gets the same mileage as some small cars and can still tow 8000 pounds easily that is awesome when you compare that to my small truck which has a 3.0 liter gasoline engine and I average 26mpg
wildcoyote34 Here in my town regular gasoline is $3.65 Per Gallon disel is $3.85 per gallon and E85 is $2.80 Per gallon but all of the prices change wuite alot
Aussie50 Diesel is cheaper here in NZ by about 50 cents a litre, but all diesel powered vehicles have to pay Road User Charges, which totally eliminates the money savings you get by running diesel. 10,000ks of RUC charges costs close to $1000
hi congratulations on the job, i came across your video by coincidence after fitting the same factory new yanmar engine just yesterday. at home I am making the same modification on a two-cylinder ruggerini engine and I am looking for an idea to give the diesel supplement when the turbo comes into operation, how did you solve this problem?
Cool little build. Please get rid of the PVC. Haha. Can't wait to see it in something. Also I love the diesel. Low egt. (owns 12v Cummins, there is no low egt for me). Keep going!
Ed, can you straighten out part of my diesel knowledge please? I often hear people talk of a diesel running too lean, but I don't get it. As I understood it, a diesel had no throttle and the power output was governed by the amount of fuel injected. Given this, wouldn't it be lean under any circumstances other than maximum power output? Wouldn't cranking up the fuel just be equivalent to pressing the "go lever"?" I think I am missing something. Does "lean" refer to the mixture in the precombustion chamber?? Would have thought you'd need to get out the TIG and the die grinder to fix that one! Or do you mean at full power, not being able to command the pump to give enough fuel? That'd make sense to me.
as I understand its proportional to load, like what I am doing here. when free revving you do not want to give more fuel because it will over-rev, but under load if the engine is not getting enough it will lack power and bog down, so increasing the quantity of fuel given at XXXX RPM fixes that issue, the idle speed should not change since the engine is not under load, but when the govenor senses load change, it can then deliver more fuel since the valve or control rod has been adjusted. hope that makes some sense, I am not a pro at this either, so its pretty hard to explain how it works.
Aussie50 Makes perfect sense! Watched your rehash video, the term "smoke screw" sums it up well for my mind. I got the impression from some other people that they were adjusting the mixture like it was a gasoline engine and they were tuning for eg 14.7:1 over some range of operation.. didn't quite think that was right, but I have bugger all diesel experience.
You can't run a diesel lean in most regards. Diesels can run above 50:1 AFR in certain conditions and at idle. They are just as you described, increase fuel = increased revs/power and vice versa.
I put a similar Kubota 3 cylinder 24hp engine in a Geo Metro convertible. It was gutless but fun and early testing showed 70mpg. I could not renew the registration in the state of California due to emissions rules so there it sits.
those are pretty bulit proof engines i have same engine on 12 pounds of boost and i beat the shit out of it and it still has more 2 give thare tough little engines i did a run at 20pounds of boost and got 140hp and 390ftlb of torque at the wheels and thare was still more and thats on stock internals ima getting all new high performance forged internal parts o and this is on a 2004 honda 450 ex atv platform
An old trick that truck drivers used was to have a shut off valve in the fuel return line, if they struggled up hills, they used to shut down that valve a bit to give them more power.
Probably generate more boost if you could get it under load... You should hook up the Westinghouse generator to it and load it down...
That is a nice engine and it runs very well.
yeh given how many hours its already run, it loves the turbo :D
Yeah ditto.
Diesels are dead easy to bung a turbo on.
Let it rev and love the turbo whine.
Ed, if only you could get hold of one of those big bus AC compressors, lineset, evaporator and the condenser, hook it up to this thing and you have a diesel powered air conditioner :D
That engine needs a good load on it, if you have a very large induction motor, make a induction motor generator using capacitors. Or may be stick a large refrigeration compressor on it LOL.
The screw at the end of the pump that is near the radiator i would say is the fuel adjustment screw, take the cap of and loose the lock nut and try wich way turning increases fuel rate, but dont put the screw at max right away, it might lock the gas at full.
When i did srew the fiatagri i have as my profile picture, i adjustet the screw right to the max, the engine reved 3500rpm+ right away when i did start it :o good think that these iveco motors can handle big rev's.
you are lucky. its still mech injection. the late model ivecos are a real shit boxes, i have a eurocargo with the tector motor that is an electronic pain in the ass hole. yeah i always just take it a couple turns at a time, no need for runaways :P
You can accept the recovery of exhaust energy with the boost without turning up the fuel. They smoke too much at low speeds with high fuel and no aneroid.
the one under the cap looks to be the smoke screw mate
take a good photo of its position now for reference, and loosen it off a few turns, try again, see if you get a bit of black smoke under throttle changes, keep playing until its where you like :) this should also change the amount of power produced when the engine is under load
Just discovered your channel, great mod by the way! I have a variable geometry garett turbo on my ford tdci 1.6 which I think is similar to what you have, be sure to check on the stator vanes lever position and lock them wide open so it works like a traditional turbo. It just sounds to me like they are closed thats all! Greetings from Greece!
Ed not had chance to watch video yet, but you wont get much boost reading until you load the engine up, not sure if you are fully loading it or just revving it up, but if its making 5psi just revving it, it iwll make plenty of bosot under load, and with more fuel will make good power!
if you put this in a small car, with 15 or 18 lbs boost, you could hit 100 mpg, but the ramp for the fuel increase under the cover on the pump, you just have to rotate it sooner.
Learnt a lot watching your Kubota series, good times.
sorry to say this but Ed has passed away.
@@JoshKilen I found that out a while ago. A very sad loss for all.
thats it .... play with the trottle .... i want to hear that sound of that turbo
Reminds me of when I stuck a little turbo on my one cylinder 350cc (gas) ATV LOL!
It spooled to 10 PSI of boost but I never did get the carb to feed right. :-(
I used a VNT turbo from a Jeep Liberty 2.8 V6 Diesel on a Saturn 1.9 Liter I4 gas engine and it worked GOOD!
While the turbo came with a vacuum operated actuator for the variable nozzles, I welded a bracket on to use a standard waste gate actuator and it worked the first time.
Well, it regulated around 8PSI or so just great until I removed the muffle after the turbo.
Then the boost creeped up to 13 to 15 PSI and the detonation cracked two pistons. :-/
hackfreehvac awesome!, as long as it can power the turbine well enough it does not seem to matter if a turbo is a bit too big for the engine class :D
Aussie50
There was like no lag in the Saturn turbo project.
But of course diesel engines use smaller turbo's anyway so a 2.8 diesel turbo worked great on the smaller 1.9 gas engine.
Would a mechanical diesel like that still keep running if you disconnected the battery while it was running. Scrap Heep Challenge always use to say diesel were less reliant on the electronics.
yea
All the old school diesels with a mechanical fuel pump I've worked around will keep running no worries - Electronics are only used for the senders, starter and Stop Solenoid.
Yanmar's are good donks - very popular for yachts.
absolutely, no electrics at all required if you can hand crank it :D.
+TheEPROM9 Yes, because it maintains its own heat since Rudolf Diesel first designed it using the Compression Ignition Combustion based on the Adiabatic Principle.
Basically, it compresses the fuel to burn and that allows it to run without a battery, the battery is only for spinning it over.
+TheEPROM9 Yes, my boat has a single cylinder yanmar and to stop it you have to shut off fuel supply by puller on a lever. Doesn't even have glowplugs for starting. Hand starting without battery is possible too but hard work.
I've made keys to a few small Yanmar tractors lately, and honestly they all sound just like that. Must be a whole lot of bad mounts. Last one was less than 100 hours old and still had rattles.
You won't get much boost from a diesel unless it's loaded. My patrol won't boost at all free revving but makes 5lb at 1500 rpm and 15 at 2000 up once the thing is driving the vehicle along the road.
Is that white motor off to the left a 3 phase? you could make a generator out of that for the diesel motor just by adding some caps. I have a couple of vids of the one I did and it works well. You could hook it up and back feed the grid to reduce your power bill. Run veg oil in the yanmar for free fuel.
Ahh the beats is alive!! Turbo works good!
Very nice toy!! Will enjoy watching what ever else you do with it!
Hi eddy'
Mate thats working great, ya correct on that it could do with a smaller turbo if ya come across one mate, maybe a turbo of a 1ltr engine would do it perfect! It would sound so cool....😉
Dont ya just love diesel engines!!!!
Iv just got myself a diesel mate! Its on google plus, you wont be disappointed 😉
Thanks for sharing,
👍 👍 👍 👍 👍THUMBS UP 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
Check out Anthony's videos too. You'll be happy!
Just got a vz21 turbo for my 3tne72 (yes they made 72’s)
Haven’t put it on yet, gotta do some other things including casting a new sae5 bellhousing out of aluminum so I can sell the new iron one I just bought to use as a pattern, at $500 usd no way I’m keeping the iron one lol.
What did you end up putting the motor in?
I love these little yanmar’s, when I decided I wanted a generator it was a no brainer, diesel, yanmar, and Craigslist. Under $900 for just the motor isn’t too shabby
sorry to say this but Ed has passed away.
Sorry to hear that, he was too young.
To really get good results out of a turbo, the compression would have to be lowered, and the injection timing changed. It would at least need new pistons.
i could argue with that for a long time :) its a diesel mate !!
hey bud, great video as always! i would also suggest a sony Handycam camcorder...i have one and am very pleased with it. very clear and sharp video. good luck in your camera buying!
also, i can tell you the mic on that camera can take some very loud noises without distortion--i use mine mainly to film offroad truck/quad/dirtbike racing. figured that would be a plus seeing that you have the same sense of fun that i do XD
Awesome build. I am building something similar for an old grey market tractor with 2cyl yanmar. Wanting to add a turbo but haven't figured out how to turn up the fuel volume. Did you ever play around with the smoke screw?
I'm sorry to say but Ed has sadly passed away since this video which is the reason there has been no more :(
Seems like that starter likes that engine
Nice setup there, love your vids. Just a suggestion, the turbo oil drain line should have the most direct route to the sump possible. Should be possible to shorten the line by facing it backwards and go diagonally down to the sump fitting. Only issue you could have if it's not more direct the returning oil that is now aerated after going through the bearings can build up and force it's way out the turbo shaft oil seals. Seems to be okay in the mean time though :) Cheers.
This would be an exspensive toy here in the US just because diesel is crazy exspensive here
really? thats a shame, modern diesel engines are fantastic, its a shame that the US has not adopted them as much as the rest of the world.
Aussie50 right now diesel in my town is $3.65 US per gallon
regular gasoline is $3.21 ,and ethanol blend gas is $2.92
diesel engines are actually making a come back here in the US,,there are several new american car models with an available diesel engine ,,and dodge introduced a 1/2 ton truck with a 3.0 liter turbo diesel which gets an amazing 32mpg ,,I have a friend who bought a 2014 dodge ram Ecodiesel and he loves it cause it gets the same mileage as some small cars and can still tow 8000 pounds easily
that is awesome when you compare that to my small truck which has a 3.0 liter gasoline engine and I average 26mpg
wildcoyote34 Here in my town regular gasoline is $3.65 Per Gallon disel is $3.85 per gallon and E85 is $2.80 Per gallon but all of the prices change wuite alot
E85 isn't available in my town ,, gotta drive 20 miles for E85 ,,,and it isn't much different in price from E10 blend about 50 cents cheaper
Aussie50 Diesel is cheaper here in NZ by about 50 cents a litre, but all diesel powered vehicles have to pay Road User Charges, which totally eliminates the money savings you get by running diesel. 10,000ks of RUC charges costs close to $1000
hi congratulations on the job, i came across your video by coincidence after fitting the same factory new yanmar engine just yesterday. at home I am making the same modification on a two-cylinder ruggerini engine and I am looking for an idea to give the diesel supplement when the turbo comes into operation, how did you solve this problem?
Guys in the states build these Yanmars up to 200+ horsepower for diesel lawn tractor sled pulling.
Cool little build. Please get rid of the PVC. Haha. Can't wait to see it in something. Also I love the diesel. Low egt. (owns 12v Cummins, there is no low egt for me). Keep going!
I'm sorry to say but Ed has sadly passed away since this video which is the reason there has been no more :(
I'm very sorry to hear. Thankyou for responding.
Hi mate. I have one of those motors. I want to build a bike with it. Any suggestions?
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Ed, can you straighten out part of my diesel knowledge please? I often hear people talk of a diesel running too lean, but I don't get it. As I understood it, a diesel had no throttle and the power output was governed by the amount of fuel injected. Given this, wouldn't it be lean under any circumstances other than maximum power output? Wouldn't cranking up the fuel just be equivalent to pressing the "go lever"?"
I think I am missing something. Does "lean" refer to the mixture in the precombustion chamber?? Would have thought you'd need to get out the TIG and the die grinder to fix that one!
Or do you mean at full power, not being able to command the pump to give enough fuel? That'd make sense to me.
as I understand its proportional to load, like what I am doing here. when free revving you do not want to give more fuel because it will over-rev, but under load if the engine is not getting enough it will lack power and bog down, so increasing the quantity of fuel given at XXXX RPM fixes that issue, the idle speed should not change since the engine is not under load, but when the govenor senses load change, it can then deliver more fuel since the valve or control rod has been adjusted.
hope that makes some sense, I am not a pro at this either, so its pretty hard to explain how it works.
Aussie50
Makes perfect sense! Watched your rehash video, the term "smoke screw" sums it up well for my mind.
I got the impression from some other people that they were adjusting the mixture like it was a gasoline engine and they were tuning for eg 14.7:1 over some range of operation.. didn't quite think that was right, but I have bugger all diesel experience.
Aussie50 actually idle and max rpm will increase when increasing the amount of fuel.
NuffMan ah ok, so I will have to decrease max governor level travel if I am tweeking the fuel.
You can't run a diesel lean in most regards. Diesels can run above 50:1 AFR in certain conditions and at idle. They are just as you described, increase fuel = increased revs/power and vice versa.
Putting one in a toyota celica gtr 2000 model. Was curious how big of a turbo it could handle. I have a 44mm garrett sittin on the bench
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Is there a model # on that pump Ed ?? Love those little engines , Your turbo idea is awesome !!
cannot see a model number on it, it may be on part of it that goes down into the PTO case.
Ya , it may be !
"A good fyeee yeez ago"
what if any noticeable or usable increases have you gained from the turbo installation ?
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@@JoshKilen 😭😭😭🥺 ty no wonder there is lack of response
nice! to turn the fuel up is that cap nut between the radiator and injection pump right on the front of the engine. is it for sale then?
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Would be a good complementing engine to drive the Westinghouse, yeah?
I need to work out a belt system so I do not over-rev the Westinghouse :D
I bet this put a big smile on your face, and rightly so haha.
Why is no one first!? Some kind of delay? Lol that radiator!
Go ahead and install this on a running platform.
This engine is too small for a 2019 Nissan frontier cab is it
what model camera do you have at the moment?
Hey Ed, I thought this was a Kubota engine since it came out of a Kubota tractor?
it came out of a Yanmar tractor, but Kubota and Deere all use the same thing
Aussie50 Our Deere 770 has a little 3cyl Yanmar, conventional style Diesel KiKi injection pump, non-turbo
What did you get the engine out f just curious
did you have to change the compression ratio? did you have to adjust the governor to get higher revs?
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
nice!! love a good old turbo diesel!!!
How did you make the custom gaskets!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?
I cut them out of gasket stock with a set of wood carving chisels and a wad punch.
damn
please make a vid a that if you haven't already im interested:)
or a link would do:)
I want to put one in my 46 willys jeep I just can’t find one 😓
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Damn son that is pretty awesome!
I could see building a small car around that!
I put a similar Kubota 3 cylinder 24hp engine in a Geo Metro convertible. It was gutless but fun and early testing showed 70mpg. I could not renew the registration in the state of California due to emissions rules so there it sits.
For sale? Engine and transmision ?
Rpm max.?
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RPM ?
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LOL hear it spoolin ! its great !!!!
Funny that it's got a pug turbo on it, cos it sounds just like the average pug diesel... :P
Has anyone put a load on these turbo tractors to see if it builds more boost ?
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leaning is good for a diesel
What's the deal with washer motor
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That would be awesome in a lawn tractor
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what size engine is this yanmar again?....figure if you can score a spare turbo off of one of those MCC Smart fourTwos...somewheres
this one is about 900cc, a smaller turbo sure would work better!
looks like a good toy hehe should be lots of fun :P
those are pretty bulit proof engines i have same engine on 12 pounds of boost and i beat the shit out of it and it still has more 2 give thare tough little engines i did a run at 20pounds of boost and got 140hp and 390ftlb of torque at the wheels and thare was still more and thats on stock internals ima getting all new high performance forged internal parts o and this is on a 2004 honda 450 ex atv platform
Whaaaatttt?!?!?! lol
I shall call you Doctor Frankenjones lol, the monster lives!! :-))
The new torture machine :-))
its got a little groot dance going on.
Id put that in a old geo metro or VW Bug lol.
Nice info…does your Yanmar have piston sprays…? The poegeot turbo looks like a perfect tit…
Very nice ED :)
Find the biggest radiator make it inter cooled
I may still have a small top mount inter-cooler off a pickup, have not seen it in a long time tho :(
Wouldn't bother just use what you can find the bigger the better
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nice!!
great for 15KVA generator head
Yanmar makes nice Marine diesel engines. A friend has one in his sailboat and mini-tug. us.yanmar.com/products/marine-engines/
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