The Rochdale police are so incompetent that they needed to have the concept of "Consent" explained to them. In law, a 13--year-old is not capable of giving consent.
The police knew what consent was. They know the law and what they are supposed to do. They DID NOT want to do the right thing they are paid to do. Perhaps they were ordered not to act on the crimes. Either way they are as bad as the perpetrators. What were the parents doing? Why weren't they fighting for justice? Why was it ok for these young girls to go out nightly? Systemic corruption. The perpetrators know the system doesn't act and they become more and more brazen.
South Yorkshire Police. Remember though these policing units are full of southerners and types who don't give two shits about northern people. If you remember what happened to the miners, the pm sent police brigades from Essex and elsewhere to come up and beat them. Also they trashed a few hotels along the way. The man in charge of S. Yorkshire Police was given control of London Olympics. Which is disgusting. These high-up people should be sent to prison and have their property taken for what they have done. Fundamentally we are talking about class-warfare. The middle and upper class wanted all of these immigrants to replace the whites not willing to give labour cheaply after the new deal following the second world war. All the profits were.private from this venture and all the costs were socialised especially among the white working class who have had to live with these bastards. I am not a communist or even a socialist but I am against the middle and upper-class destroying the lives of thousands of working class white girls, many being murdères, all because they want to enjoy their Rentier lifestyle with minimal effort.
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A 13 year old was taken somewhere and had a plastic bag put over her head and raped and sodomised multiple times. And the police said they couldn’t do anything. Shame on them.
Wtf , shame on them they all should be fired . If that happens to their kids , I’m sure there are a lot they could do . They’re no different with those pedophile
Incredible. The last gasp of a once proud nation, now cowering before the ungrateful hoardes. 🇬🇧 Hate to say it, but you tend to get the society you deserve. It's the girls who pay the price because they've got no one looking out for them. Really sad.
Everyone in the system has failed these poor girls, if they were children of people with money and power or polaticions this would of never been allowed
Redsky atnight Only because children of those people are raised with more common sense! Their raised with the morals of you have to work for money and nothing is free but the way your comment is written suggests it’s a class discrimination which it isn’t at all
Mummy Bear007 middle class grow up watching their parents work where nothing is free. Working class get free money so the kids accept money off strangers without knowing they want something in return.
@@judithhiles388 What does it matter Brexit now? UK is doomed already. This wouldn't happen in my country. They did it once with two girls well they are in jail now. I am from Belgium.
judith hiles Tommy Robinson is flat out racist though. He puts everyone of the certain races he dislikes in a box. That’s wrong. Hate the bad. Respect the good.
The heroes here are Sara Rowbotham, Maggie Oliver, Andrew Norfolk and Nazir Afzal. Each of them worked tirelessly to ensure that these vile men were brought to justice and that people knew what was going on.
I'm sorry but if you listen to Maggie Oliver now she will tell you that this problem is ongoing, spreading around the UK and not being dealt with by any of the authorities. Maggie is a hero, Sara Rowbotham too but the rest have done more to protect the Asian Pakistanis behind this vile behaviour and nothing to protect the victims. There is more consideration and more fear for the scum who cause these problems than there ever will be for the ppl they prey on and make into victims. The police are about as much use as a chocolate teapot unless you are black where they will move heaven and earth to deal with any problems they have. It's about time ppl face up to the fact that these ppl are not being demonised, they are just evil and white vulnerable girls are the victims of a racist ideology from the Asians and the establishment of this country that cares nothing for poor white ppl.
This makes my blood boil. Reminds me of the days when The Yorkshire Ripper was at large. Press and police didn't take it seriously as the victims were mainly prostitutes. Only when a 'nice' girl was murdered did they take it seriously. These poor girls are treated as troublesome, tearaway, lying young teens. Their word seems to count for nothing. Absolutely shocking.
Exactly, and all it does is play right into the hands of abusers. All the police did in these situations was help the offenders to brutalise more people. It’s incredibly sad.
@ Not like this. That our government, police, social services would let rape belgium white children by muslims to scared to be call racist. If this would happening there would come a civil war in Belgium.
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@@eviken1982 That's exactly what they said in the UK, for years and years. Tommy Robinson was on the TV telling everyone about it but the press shut him down.
@ Don't you think the police was involved, corrupted? I heard from that dad that went after his young underaged girls. The police said that they wanted to stay in that appartement. The police arrested the father.
Sarah VeganGarden yeah it just made a pleasant interlude from confronting all the pro Tommy Robinson comments, and I had just come in from prepping some soil for the autumn harvest!
It was going on in Bolton in 2003 when I was a student nurse. It was seen as a hopeless case because the girls got into the cars without coercion, apparently, so nobody did anything. It wasn't just girls either, it was anybody who was vulnerable, even young people with learning disabilities. I was absolutely horrified.
I ran a pub in a working class area between Bolton and Salford in 2001. Local men told me quite openly that no Pakistanis would ever be "allowed" to move into their area. They told me they would have their houses burned down, and they ment it. Nobody talks about the racial division of the North, but it's there, always bubbling. The fear of the councils in the grooming coming out is from knowing this. They've been working around it for years. They tacitly permitted the abuse in the same way that they conciously don't put Pakistanis into white council estates, appeasement of both groups, pretending it doesn't happen, and Mirpuri Pakistanis will somehow magically become integrated with British society at some date in the future.
Rob W you have nailed it!! They are Mirpuri Pakistani- they even don’t call them Pakistani and call them Kashmiris. In Leeds they have fought tooth and nail to call them Kashmiris. Check Leeds Taxi driver application form and under ethnicity they have got a separate column calling themselves as Kashmiris. It would have been a lot better if they called them Mirpuris - period .
@@oosyed I first understood this around 2005 when I worked with a couple of non-Mirpuri Pakistani lads. One of them told me, and I quote, "you English people don't understand what you're dealing with, the Pakistanis up north are all from Mirpur. They were all herding goats and living in shacks 50 years ago, now they come to England to marry their cousin, they are basically a bunch of hillbillies" Since then I learned, 70% of British Pakistanis come from one small part of Kashmir.
Rob W I couldn’t agree more. These people show off in Pak (Mirpur Area) in front of villagers as people in bigger cities don’t even know where Mirpur is ( no exaggeration). They brag about being British and harass local people and eye their girls and promise them life in Britain where they enslave them to work in their shops (modern day slavery). They deliberately choose non educated people to bring in UK so they can’t complaint to local authorities. Some go as far as tearing passports away once they are in England. You will never see them in Mosque as they claim to be actually too integrated and mosque is not for them. Compare this lot in UK with Canada and Australia- they only took engineers, IT workers and doctors from mainland Pakistan (Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad- cream of Pakistan). Unfortunately Britain has made the same mistake by inviting gypsies from Slovakia and Romania. Thankless few. God bless UK that gave opportunity to all to speak, stand, follow which ever faith you want, universities, health services when you need them, schooling for children.
@@oosyed Most British people don't understand and I didn't used to myself. Only by visiting Asia do we really appreciate how big the countries are and how regionally and socially divided they still are.
@@lj8952 how about you stop being so rude. I'm a Christian and I would never do such thing. Also how can you say someone deserves such thing for accepting someone who is still flesh and blood? And it's not the Muslims communities fault. It's those specific Muslims. Religion doesn't need to come into this at all.
@@meganfree5631 it wasn't the exact same situation just the same abuse. I know one of the girls though. It's like love just doesn't exist anymore. I don't know what to think of this world. Thank you though.
Journey Bravely STAY STRONG BBYGIRL ! AND I HOPE YOU HEAL BUT NEVER FORGIVE OR FORGET WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU and YOUR FRIEND. IT WAS NOT TO UR FAULT ... IT IS A CULTURAL PROBLEM WITHIN THE MUSLIM PEOPLE AS A WHOLE, look at how oppressed the woman in their mother land are ... that what they wish for all women . NEVER LET THAT TAKE YOUR WORTH OR YOUR BEAUTY , YOU ARE A DAMN SURVIVOR AND YOU WILL BE OK!! One day you will heal and be able to help other girls who’ve had same experience! And that will give something positive and purpose to your assault ... much love from a fellow survivor here in USA . XOXOXOX
I do wish they'd stop using the euphemism "men of Asian ethnicity". It's got nothing whatever to do with ethnicity. We're not talking about some kind of genetic issue. Neither are we talking about "race". What we are needing to talk about is culture, and specifically religious culture and what those cultural understandings say about masculinity and femininity, childhood and adulthood, Muslims and non-Muslims, and who you respect sexually and who you exploit and mistreat sexually. Those categories need to be explored and discussed openly in public meetings, mosques, homes, schools, colleges, youth clubs, health clinics, prisons, on the street, everywhere. Those are the conversations we need to be having, and we need to challenge abusive cultures in every context. Hard conversations, but they'll save children's lives.
Tougher ermmm but females were pretty weak against the men ..if they were tough sex would not have happened .. so are you saying that they let it happen?? @@annabritton9176
@@Kay0Bot you don't get it do you? Fool I know they are Asian that's not my point, if you had a full grasp of the English language, you would get it so I don't know why my reply has been highlighted!!!! I meant when you call them Asian you are insulting Chinese, Japanese, sikh, Vietnamese, do ya get it now???
I can not get it if you did not clearly explain your point initially. Don't be lazy. Write out your ideas and don't leave it for interpretations. To your first point, calling them Asian does not give Asians a bad name. There are enough positive imagery of Asians that this instance would not lead leave a lasting negative impressions for the other ethnicities you mentioned.
dude by calling them Asian you are setting everyone else with the same brush ie virtually all of them have been Pakistani, where as that way your not labelling everyone I thought you get by reading the previous comments by the other person
When a list of Muslim offenders were given to the elders in the local Mosque they said they recognised who they were and they would address it. Later they advised "it's got nothing to do with us". If that's not wiping your hands clean and pretending its not happening what is it? Disgraceful and utterly disgusting that the Imams and elders turned a blind eye!
@@cmccall84cm Are you saying that having a hijab ripped off your head is exactly the same as young white girls getting raped and abused in other ways, just because they are white?
It's the 14 year anniversary today for me 11th July 2010 I will never forget the day my life changed forever. It took 7 years to get justice, this was in Essex. 7 yrs after I 1st reported them they were finally put in prison. I made my adult life beautiful and for that I'm proud 💯💜
It's literally reversed. Remember when Iran had its internet cut off? BBC only showed it when it started trending but it was going on for months. BBC is some propaganda bullshit.
@@keithkahley7295 it’s not about the parents it’s about the children? A lot of these cases are young girls from broken homes, blaming parents does nothing, just because a child has had bad parents that makes it okay? it’s the sick people who actually groom and abuse these kids who are to blame and it’s the government who are to blame it kept quiet so long
Imagine the shock of the parents, and then to have their pleads and cries rejected by the institutions that they were told that they could trust. Terrible!
I can't imagine that shock as a parent. I need to know what my kids are up to. Being able to be shocked by something like that means i don't know where or what they were up to. Hopefully i have educated my kids enough not to be around people like that. I have also made my kids know drinking ain't a good idea til you are old enough. It's hard for a child to surprise a parent if the parent is paying attention.
I can only imagine how many they abused in their own families communities... then they went out and looked else were to not be caught within the communities and families. A pedophiles starts at home then moves into the community. How many little girls did they hurt within their own families. Little girls that will never be the same.
As a Pakistani / British could not believe this happened and nothin was done about it till so many years after so sorry too everyone not all Pakistani people are like this ! And thank god for afzal who came and turned it around and got the prosecutions done !
@@britishempireno1fan851 no it isn't tho where does it say in our religion being a nonce is ok😂😂😂 its not a culture or religion thing if you let villagers from 3rd world countries in this is what happens. My family is a turkish immigrant but we came here working are arses off and never even spoke to police officers before so don't bring religion into it when its personal traits of people coming in not their religion or culture
I grew up in this area at this time. Girls did not trust police or adults, we just didn't. I was caught up in my own abuse situation, and I was almost roped into being abused by this gang too. Just happened to go in another direction so never got picked up for a "party". When it all came out a lot made sense, it's not that I knew exactly what was going on but I wasn't surprised. I don't live anywhere near there anymore, I don't ever want to go back. And note about the taxis: 100% we never trusted taxis! Everyone knew it was better to wait in the bus station or on a train platform for the last one, even if that meant waiting hours, then get in a taxi. You just didn't get taxis, ever! It was better to walk home on the canal than get a taxi
Are white girls 👧 Turnt on by Muslim Men in General to be Willing to Be Groomed as They are or seem to Be?? 14-15 year Girls are not Dumb and this Information about Grooming Been Around For Years YET they Some what Participate to a Degree at the age of 14-15-16. At that Age I understood what was Right n Wrong and they do as well, so 🤷 What I'm I Missing As a Non British Person. People Target Vulnerable Girls Here In America But Not in a Obviously RACIAL and Religious Motivated malicious intent to DAMAGE white Girls mentally n Sexually. If it's KNOWN For Years What still drives young girls to them???
@iliketowatch. i did have people looking out for me, one of the main reasons this group didn't target me. But when you're raised in a culture of not talking, unspoken abuse, and being undiagnosed autistic, you just don't talk about things
Come on BRITS.....let take action it’s up to us to protect our mothers, sisters and daughters. The system is failing us.Let’s all pull together and do something so Britain changes its ways. ARE WE WAITING FOR IT TO HAPPEN TO OUR DAUGHTERS BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION.... No we can’t do this no CHILD should be going through this NO CHILD.... let’s change the world and bring this to an end..... our sisters need us. We all need to take action to help our sister and daughters.
What boys in Afghanistan and Pakistan they’re sexual abuse everyday no one talks about it instead we are focusing on Sikh girls and English girls. Also we have catholic priests doing to this boys and girls
Madness, So Sad! Evil Bastards! Sad Thing Is This Still Happens Today And It Will Never Stop 😣 It's Weird Because Growing Up When I Was A Teen From 13 - 17 Years Old Around 2006 - 2011, It Was Always Asian Men Who Shouted Out In Cars " How Old Are You Can We Have Your Number Sexy " Around London At Me At My Mates. And They Were Older But We Used To Just Walk On Never Gave Them The Time Of Day... Sick World. Now I'm 25 With A Daughter Thinking, Me And My Mates Are Lucky We Didn't Go Over And Get In Their Cars...
How can these filmmakers expose disgusting abuse before going on to criticise those who spoke up about it months and even years beforehand? The level of cognitive dissonance on display here is mind-boggling. People like Tommy Robinson have been absolutely shredded in the media for doing nothing but expressing valid concerns for his community.
When I first got to the Uk London I loved British people so open minded welcoming patient and understanding then I noticed a slight change I went once north to Manchester and thought people were different it kinda changed my initial view in brits but I’m not stupid so I digged deep to understand why the sudden change only to find out that it was understandable I feel sorry for Europe it’s being changed and I’m at the same time amazed at the level of patience européen people show to us foreigners. I just want to say thank you 🙏 and sorry at the same time I left London by the way I hope that the next time I come back I will find it better ❤️❤️❤️
I fear that these people chosen to do this, when the public arise they will surely play the victim but by than it can be too late, hope it doesn't come to that, it could be way more caos.
Racism is a slippery slope I don't envy the police officers at all, but I do feel like this whole issue could have been sorted a while ago if th3 officers had spotted the signs and had not blamed the teens.
The establishment and the police are equally to blame for ignoring this travesty, fire them all and stop their pensions, once that's done you wouldn't see a repeat of this disgusting behaviour.
The government are 100% to blame, the victims need good lawyers to start taking ALL enablers to court, hit them in the pocket and jail time. God bless all the victims and their families and pray justice will be achieved.
I am waiting for the scandal to come out for the adult girls abused. In Bristol there’s a place called the sanctuary it’s often used exclusively by people with BPD - EVERYONE knows that the sanctuary is a mental health drop in. After a visit the patient is driven home by a taxi… I went there a couple of times for support following a bereavement and EVERY TIME I went in a taxi the driver who was Asian would ask if I’d eaten, if I wanted food, if I had a boyfriend etc. I reported it but nothing happened of it. If they did that to me then others would have been affected also - I am not hopeful it will come out as the very illness that made these girls vulnerable will prevent them from being listened to and heard. Edit: I knew what they were after so I lied and said I had a boyfriend and I was seeing him in the morning
I’m a British Pakistani muslim, born and raised in Rochdale and I can assure you, we are not all raised in this disgusting manner which is depicted in this series. I was raised to respect other religions, other beliefs and other people regardless of their colour, caste or status. The people who committed these atrocious crimes are beyond horrible and should spend the rest of their lives rotting in jail. Just because a few people decide to disgrace our background and culture, doesn’t mean some people should fail to see the beautiful REAL culture.
An Sich Yes, a few people in comparison to the many peaceful Pakistani Muslims like me who don’t wish harm to anyone. Also, there are people in every religion that do horrible things, not everyone has a human mindset if they can do inhumane shit like this
@@irraxxa1677 Well I'll ask you a question, if you owned an island that had been in your family for generations, then you allowed some people come live on your island and with in a short amount of time a small percentage of those people started rapeing/pimping out your relatives, blowing things up trying to kill you, stabbed your relatives to death, started changing how your island operates, started mutilating little girls genitals (FGM), started telling you that you were responsible for the actions of great grandparents and every time you tried to do something to stop what those invited people were doing to your island home, they rioted or refused to change. How would you react? How would you feel? What would you do about it? I'll ask you an other question, if society's going to start playing the game that white Britis who are live to day are responsible for historic colonialism. If society is going to start playing the game that white people have white privilege or that men have male privilege. If society is going to play that game, if were going to play the game of group responsibility, if white Brits are held responsible for the actions of other white Brits, if men are going to be held responsible for the actions of other men, why shouldn't the Pakistani community be held responsible for the actions of other members of the Pakistani community? That would be equally yes, all groups treated equal yes.
Frankly if you're Muslim you virtually can get away with anything. In Germany the police was also afraid of reporting a massive amount of rape-like behavior in Cologne at New Year's 2015-16. It's not the incidents that are most shocking. It's the fear the police had. Thus they reported what they believed the politicians wanted to hear: "No incidents". The offenders were Muslim refugees.... Political correctness can unfortunately lead to unwanted consequences (extreme right-wing support). Politicians and the police should stop looking the other way if Muslims are involved
@@caitlinshields4828 I just wrote that they can virtually get away with anything. Just look at slave labor in Qatar or Saudi Arabia. Nobody cares. They have UN resolutions on a weekly basis. Unfortunately the left is too obsessed with protecting some minorities no matter what. But certainly it is not all Muslims! Just nobody cares about the ones that are misbehaving. It's also a close call if you say something. You overstep your argument and they might blow you up ;)
How naive is that MP? That Labour Cryer woman? Unislamic behaviour? The problem is this behaviour is VERY islamic. It's all documented in their book, and this problem of child raping gangs, let's start calling it what it is - it's not grooming, it's rape, will never go away until the problem with Islam is faced and confronted!!!
The police didn't want to be bothered because its like rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. Its still going on to this day in cities all around, and always will to some extent in deprived, rough areas with complex social issues...and not just Pakastani gangs. Its same with local white or african crime gangs. Horrible but true 😥
This is a devastating story. I feel so sorry for the girls this happened too. I don't mean to be judgmental of the girls parents but I am struggling to understand how girls as young as 12-15 are allowed to be going out by themselves at that age with no parental supervision.
Wtaf the reporter who was talking about keeping it quiet for years.. then finally found a voice and the only time I heard him say the words POISONOUS DEVIDE only when talking about the EDL not the abuse itself... ‼️ wake up mate ‼️
This scares the hell out of me as a Canadian. With Trudeau as PM, and the same kind of craziness starting over hear. I'm in Alberta, which is the most conservative Province in the country. And I think I have faith that the police would never let this happen, nor would they dare cover this up. Well Maybe the RCMP might try, but it would be leaked quick. But down east this could happen today. I am so tired of this PC culture, and no one sees the dangers of it. The fact a reporter even admits he didn't write the story because he didn't want to harm his political party? That happens here. But no reporter would ever admit it. Because they would be finished, and the news agency they worked for would be utterly trashed. To think, I was a Liberal about 3 years back... I just can't see how anyone who is honest with them selves can put up with this crap.
I cant believe that im not a liberal anymore. But i dont like my freedom of speech being taken away, i dont like that im supposed to hate my self bc im white and i dont want sharia law in canada! Its so sad this hypicrisy and idiocy being adopted by students these days. They really WANT a cause, want to feel important but are so misguided..
As a Canadian from Toronto who has lived in Manchester since 97, i can tell you that you have every reason to be scared. I was a liberal as well, but in this current global climate someone like Trudeau who is trying to please everyone and has an open door agenda is dangerous and needs to go.
Now i understand why can people be Racist or hate islam, this should not be the reason but Pakistani people dont even know that is illegal, its happening everday in Pakistan. ( thats what i know) I’m so sorry for the children who get hurt and their family… I hope the government do something about it without getting called “Racist”
They should have done more sooner.. Maggie knew the cases, but was shut down. She was only called in on the cases after it all blew up in their faces. They should have listened to Maggie and her partners, years earlier.. It's normal in their own countries. But not here in the civilised world. It's grooming and rape..
Why do the BBC always go off-story to make clumsy political mileage out of these tragedies? This film was supposed to be about 'Betrayed Girls', girls were clearly not betrayed by the 'far right' any more than the 'far-left'. As one father says, community reaction wasn't about racism, it was total and utter frustration caused directly by politicians, police and pretty much the whole of the British Welfare system who chose Political Correctness over the safety of English children and failed totally in their duty of care. If Maggie Oliver is correct in her assertion that documents that she prepared 'went missing' in the possession of Greater Manchester Police, at the very least shouldn't criminal charges be laid concerning tampering with evidence and perverting the course of justice?
I can't believe the Muslim elders chose it ignore it rather than confronting the list of men. They really didn't help themselves or their community. Then they wonder why so many people are against Muslims/Pakistani's as much as I hate to say that. I'm not justifying prejudice or racism by any means but complicicy is just as wrong. Also, them turning a blind could be racism on their behalf as it it has been girls within thier own communities being abused they may have acted. If they want to live in other countries then they need to value the people of that nation otherwise, why move in the first place. Acceptances shouldn't be one sided
@Argumentology I think she meant that it is the responsability of any Muslim Local Leader to report, condemn and stop any sex grooming commited by members of their own community.
Cheeky bastard had the audacity to call the police and report her for smashing the shop up. To be honest I’m surprised the public didn’t do anything. I’m probably going get some stick for that comment. Just saying!!!
Matthew Hitchens the problem is not with Islam and never will be , the problem is with people doing those horrible deeds and pretending to be muslim ...this is not Islam and will never be . I am disgusted by their actions
@@sarahvegangarden4822 Well indeed shame on this Pakistani men. But the Police, the social services and the councils that did nothing about it. And want to be silent about it because they are scared to be called racists? That is the biggest shame.
I get that it’s hard to always know where your kid is when they are a teen, especially if you want to show them trust and let the expand as a person, but fuck man, if you get even a whiff of this happening to your daughter, how do you not make sure she is with you all the time. If you work normal hours she’s out of school when you’re off of work, if not, I can see how hard it could be. But man, I’d be on a goddamned man hunt if I knew this was happening to my daughter. This is so sickening, I’m so sorry for all theses girls, I’m sorry for the parent who didn’t know what was going on. This is sick
I would like to bring the Imams and the Muslim community leaders to account. They are as equally as culpable. They knew very well what was going on and they chose to turn a blind eye for, presumably, not to rat on someone of their own community. With such an attitude, is it surprising that the bandied about “integration” is just a pipe dream? And also, if you wanna know why police and social services are seen as the enemy by decent-minded folks, look no further. In this story you have everything you have to know....
Police , the people in power talking about consent to sex from 12 13 year olds...did thy had kids of there own..why did ppl in power get away from this so easily..thy should face charges for encouraging those evil ppl!!
Theyre all Afghan or pakistani men do you not think its strange the majority of them are that origin because it might be okay in their countries but its not okay in ours if they dont like it they can go back to where theyre from.
Thank God for Maggie Oliver, we need you in Australia 🇦🇺, much respect! Too all the victims I want to say, “I believe you!” Evil does exist! It’s not your fault!
A women took this girls in her home for then giving to these Pakistani men. A father called the Police and they went to that house, he wanted his 12 year old girl back. Well the Police arrested the father. How disguisting. UK Brexit or no Brexit. Britain is already doomed as hell.
I used to work in a children's home You cannot stop a child from going out the house We weren't a secure unit so if the girls wanted to go out they could A lot of girls I worked with who were exploiting in Sheffield chose to meet these a lot of the time by Calling up the men and arranging to meet them or to be picked up We would take as many names registration plates etc But the police and social workers couldn't do anything unless girls came forward This stuff goes off up and down the country in every town and city and police and authorities know who they
I worked in a childrens home and one of the young girls would go and use some ‘freephone’ number from a phone box that would put her through to a chat line. This 15yr old had been sexually abused by her uncle and was desperate to have a baby so she could have someone to love. God only knows who she met up with.
I'm white, so was my social worker in rochdale He got 17 years at minshull street in 2018 Just about made rochdale observer and MEN Nothing more, explain that then !!!
Racist!! LOL who do you work for? I mean in what aspect are you fighting this? I'm interested as we have simular problems in my area and I'm interested to know where it gets blocked?
@@mmabennyj By fighting I mean trying to get the powers that be to admit they let so many of us down. We were brave enough to report it at the time but nothing was done, the people who pushed it all under the carpet for fear of being seen as being racist are as guilty. If something had have been done back in the mid 90's it wouldn't be the massive problem it is now
Victims of political correctness. Identify the problem, acknowledge the problem and deal with the problem, something that is sadly being ignored in Britain.
Here in America, we have these things called wood chippers. You toss tree limbs in and they get ground up into mulch. This is where these men would end up if it were my daughter. 😡
This country had the opportunity a long time ago not to put itself in the position of having to deal with racial problems in our society. We chose wrongly and will continue to pay the price for that folly. Nobody asked the indigenous population if they wanted to become multicultural.
I've no idea if this would work or not, but if families are worried about their daughters' safety and the police aren't interested maybe they could go to the nearest Army camp and make a complaint to the Military Police and ask them to take it up. The British Army are generally not too concerned by political correctness so worried members of the public may have more luck with them than with the civilian police. Don't know if the Military Police have jurisdiction under the law outside the military context but I'll see what I can find out....
I don't think it would work. I am not from the UK but i know a lot about this. Don't forget it was not only the police. It was Political to. So the army wouldn't help.
i have so so so much respect for sara rowbotham , and the way she was treated been made redundant and all that is appaling whoever made that decision should ashamed of themselves , because she is an amazing women along with maggie oliver, these 2 ladies should be highly commended, as for the children what happened to them breaks my heart and when i found out the men got found guilty and what sentence they got, i screamed at the top of my voice yeeeees hang the bastards, how could a human being treat another human being the way they treated those babies? evil evil animals you can even call them human beings, there wont be no forgiveness for what they did no matter how much they pray, they will go to hell and so they should, as for maggie oliver and sarah robotham, THANKYOU, for looking out for our children and trying to keep them safe, THANKYOU, THANKYOU, THANKYOU, you both have my upmost and sincere respect , thankyou.
This is absolutely harrowing viewing. The death penalty should be brought back rather then locking them all up in an already overcrowded prison system.
Poor, poor families Lord !! The parents of these poor girls must have been in pure hell. Incredible that even the bloody old bill and the social services were in on it, with the higher powers and allowed these crimes to have taken place upon children. Outrageous.
Says it all really, the leader of the BNP gets arrested by the the police who themseves totally ignored phone calls for a whole year about girls getting raped!!! If the police, social services and the Imans who were asked to help had done their jobs there would have been no reason for the BNP to be involved. It was not them causing racism it was the institutions not having the guts to deal with the problem afraid they would be classed as racist, what an absolute disgrace! My heart goes out to all those poor girls and we know now in 2023 this is still happening!!
Muhammad safiq saying there's nothing in Islam that justifies this, that's Tacqiya in action. Islam definitely justifies IT . That's WHY THEY DO IT they don't think they are doing anything wrong
FOREST FANATIC what are you saying the things they are doing is haraam (forbidden) in Islam.you can’t judge a religion based on what some Muslims to because many Christians have done worse and they’ve done the things these disgusting men have done.i don’t know what a mind of an Islamaphobeeis like but I hope someday you’ll choose to research the religion itself and change your opinion on it .not all Muslims are bad,not all Christians are bad just beacause a few people are bad doesn’t make everyone else
@@Robertsmith001 ah yes. Concubines. The slaves captured in a just war. I wasn't aware there was a war. Plus your supposed to obey the law of the land so in the non existent event they can do this they still cannot do it😂
I watched this documentary this afternoon and though it takes place in England, it shines a brilliant spotlight on what's wrong with America's criminal justice system. While all these factions of government argued among themselves about who didn't say what to whom, these men got away with grooming underage girls for sex. Between the barristers for the defense blaming the girls involved and more or less looking down their noses at them which in turn victimized them all over again, to the perpetrators crying racism at the reading of the verdict (something the police were afraid of being accused of so they took their time prosecuting these sickos) to the minorities getting up in arms about the verdict. It happens all the time here in the US. Criminals are getting off Scott free because juries are being threatened with what will happen if they find a person of color guilty of a crime. If this had happened in the case of these three girls, pedophiles would still be roaming free in England grooming an raping unsuspecting teenage girls. That's not the way the justice system is supposed to work. If someone murders, rapes or commits a violent crime against someone else and there's evidence to support a guilty verdict, you owe it to the victim to prosecute and it doesn't matter what color they are.
Check out the Victoria Climbie case. She was a little girl from the Ivory Coast brought over to England by her aunt. Despite the police and social workers getting overwhelming evidence of child abuse they refused to take action as white members of staff didn't want to be called racist. Victoria Climbie was tortured and murdered. She would be alive today without the nonsense of CRT or political correctness,
Because many people instinctively refuse to look at this problem at all. Their entire world and the value system would collapse if they did. Many people still claim that this is a conspiracy theory. They live in a world of lies where whites are always racists evil and Muslims are always oppressed minorities.
I’m sorry, is it bad to be afraid of Islam if it’s the Islamic ideology that encourages this behavior? I don’t give a crap where you’re from, I just care about what you believe and what you believe in.
Scott King Islam does not encourage this Islam is the most peaceful religion there is just because some people happen to be Muslim who do these things are bad doesn’t make everyone else in the same way a lot of Christians do bad things but that doesn’t make them all bad
@@Bigfan-my8ge The Quran has verses on sex slavery. Muhammad had sex slaves (and other slaves). Muhammad killed people, and tortured at least one person (by lighting a fire on his chest to make him reveal where his treasure was hidden so Muhammad could steal it). Muhammad promises that when men die they will have "perpetual virgins" they can endlessly have sex with. Read your Quran carefully. Read the hadiths carefully. Think carefully about such teachings. Maybe compare those teachings with other religions to see which religions are peaceful and compassionate and which religions teach believers to despise, hate, enslave and kill non-believers. Study religion in detail for yourself. Don't be content with second-hand information. Search out the truth for yourself. Notice the contradictions for yourself.
Wow, the amount that all the various orginization turned a blind eye to what was going on is shocking. Isn't that what social services and the police are supposed to be in place for? To protect kids no matter who they are living with??? How is the fact that these kids were living with thier parents and not in care relevant? ???
This will continue to an ongoing issue and probably deteriorate as long as there is a policy of indiscriminate immigration to this country. It's a culture clash of massive proportions. One only has to look at the current situation in Sweden,Germany and and France(not to mention Ireland); where mass immigration and the breakdown of law in the community has led to massive increases of crimes of violence, and sexual exploitation. Differing cultures have varying perspectives; conditioned by upbringing. The weaponizing of language and the use of so called 'hate speech' has exasperated the situation, were there is a difference in racial backgrounds. Political correctness should not be used as a weapon against the truth.
The Rochdale police are so incompetent that they needed to have the concept of "Consent" explained to them. In law, a 13--year-old is not capable of giving consent.
I just graduated law school and it tears me inside to think these police officers did not know the difference between consent and submission.
More like corrupt or even criminal.
The police knew what consent was. They know the law and what they are supposed to do. They DID NOT want to do the right thing they are paid to do. Perhaps they were ordered not to act on the crimes. Either way they are as bad as the perpetrators. What were the parents doing? Why weren't they fighting for justice? Why was it ok for these young girls to go out nightly? Systemic corruption. The perpetrators know the system doesn't act and they become more and more brazen.
South Yorkshire Police. Remember though these policing units are full of southerners and types who don't give two shits about northern people. If you remember what happened to the miners, the pm sent police brigades from Essex and elsewhere to come up and beat them. Also they trashed a few hotels along the way.
The man in charge of S. Yorkshire Police was given control of London Olympics. Which is disgusting. These high-up people should be sent to prison and have their property taken for what they have done.
Fundamentally we are talking about class-warfare. The middle and upper class wanted all of these immigrants to replace the whites not willing to give labour cheaply after the new deal following the second world war. All the profits were.private from this venture and all the costs were socialised especially among the white working class who have had to live with these bastards.
I am not a communist or even a socialist but I am against the middle and upper-class destroying the lives of thousands of working class white girls, many being murdères, all because they want to enjoy their Rentier lifestyle with minimal effort.
Many thanks for your message of support, containing as it does several interesting lines that merit further research. I take it you've read "Easy Meat, Peter McLoughlin. This has become the definitive "must read" text on the subject.
Jack, the Japan Alps Brit
Open to offers
A 13 year old was taken somewhere and had a plastic bag put over her head and raped and sodomised multiple times. And the police said they couldn’t do anything. Shame on them.
Wtf , shame on them they all should be fired . If that happens to their kids , I’m sure there are a lot they could do . They’re no different with those pedophile
They'll send teams out to arrest someone for a spicy comment on Twitter though.
Incredible. The last gasp of a once proud nation, now cowering before the ungrateful hoardes. 🇬🇧
Hate to say it, but you tend to get the society you deserve. It's the girls who pay the price because they've got no one looking out for them. Really sad.
Some lied and their is the problem
Everyone in the system has failed these poor girls, if they were children of people with money and power or polaticions this would of never been allowed
N the Royal family
@@mummybear0078 VERY TRUE
Redsky atnight Only because children of those people are raised with more common sense! Their raised with the morals of you have to work for money and nothing is free but the way your comment is written suggests it’s a class discrimination which it isn’t at all
@@photosynthetics7865 no offence, that makes absolutely no sence, could you please elaborate?
Mummy Bear007 middle class grow up watching their parents work where nothing is free. Working class get free money so the kids accept money off strangers without knowing they want something in return.
Police should be jailed
instead they jail those who draw attention to it like tommy robbinson
@@judithhiles388 What does it matter Brexit now? UK is doomed already. This wouldn't happen in my country. They did it once with two girls well they are in jail now. I am from Belgium.
@@eviken1982 ahh yes it wouldn't happen in Belgium home of the monster of belgium
@@eviken1982 I don't think ur aware of some of the atrocities that have gone on in belgium
judith hiles Tommy Robinson is flat out racist though. He puts everyone of the certain races he dislikes in a box. That’s wrong. Hate the bad. Respect the good.
The heroes here are Sara Rowbotham, Maggie Oliver, Andrew Norfolk and Nazir Afzal. Each of them worked tirelessly to ensure that these vile men were brought to justice and that people knew what was going on.
I'm sorry but if you listen to Maggie Oliver now she will tell you that this problem is ongoing, spreading around the UK and not being dealt with by any of the authorities. Maggie is a hero, Sara Rowbotham too but the rest have done more to protect the Asian Pakistanis behind this vile behaviour and nothing to protect the victims.
There is more consideration and more fear for the scum who cause these problems than there ever will be for the ppl they prey on and make into victims. The police are about as much use as a chocolate teapot unless you are black where they will move heaven and earth to deal with any problems they have.
It's about time ppl face up to the fact that these ppl are not being demonised, they are just evil and white vulnerable girls are the victims of a racist ideology from the Asians and the establishment of this country that cares nothing for poor white ppl.
This makes my blood boil. Reminds me of the days when The Yorkshire Ripper was at large. Press and police didn't take it seriously as the victims were mainly prostitutes. Only when a 'nice' girl was murdered did they take it seriously. These poor girls are treated as troublesome, tearaway, lying young teens. Their word seems to count for nothing. Absolutely shocking.
You have hit the nail on the head. Absolutely quality comment.
this is how it is in many society, the poor are never believed
Exactly, and all it does is play right into the hands of abusers. All the police did in these situations was help the offenders to brutalise more people. It’s incredibly sad.
Its a disgrace
Where are their fathers?
…. and it's still going on!
@Frank Slater Well UK must be ashamed. I am from Belgium. If this would happen here. People comes on the street protesting for months.
Frank Slater yep and they shouldn't be aloud to take over... The U.K. Is going to irrupt into civil war vary soon.
@ Not like this. That our government, police, social services would let rape belgium white children by muslims to scared to be call racist. If this would happening there would come a civil war in Belgium.
@@eviken1982 That's exactly what they said in the UK, for years and years. Tommy Robinson was on the TV telling everyone about it but the press shut him down.
@ Don't you think the police was involved, corrupted? I heard from that dad that went after his young underaged girls. The police said that they wanted to stay in that appartement. The police arrested the father.
Thank you, Attiyah, for posting this. We must not brush this under the carpet. Every child deserves protection.
So you don't keep chickens then?
@@mattsmith87 Yup, you is correct!
@@sarahvegangarden4822 but you grow all your own veg?
@@mattsmith87 Kind of off-topic, Matt.
I am indeed vegan and I do grow veg. However, this video is about something quite different. Ciao!
Sarah VeganGarden yeah it just made a pleasant interlude from confronting all the pro Tommy Robinson comments, and I had just come in from prepping some soil for the autumn harvest!
It was going on in Bolton in 2003 when I was a student nurse. It was seen as a hopeless case because the girls got into the cars without coercion, apparently, so nobody did anything. It wasn't just girls either, it was anybody who was vulnerable, even young people with learning disabilities. I was absolutely horrified.
I ran a pub in a working class area between Bolton and Salford in 2001. Local men told me quite openly that no Pakistanis would ever be "allowed" to move into their area. They told me they would have their houses burned down, and they ment it. Nobody talks about the racial division of the North, but it's there, always bubbling. The fear of the councils in the grooming coming out is from knowing this. They've been working around it for years. They tacitly permitted the abuse in the same way that they conciously don't put Pakistanis into white council estates, appeasement of both groups, pretending it doesn't happen, and Mirpuri Pakistanis will somehow magically become integrated with British society at some date in the future.
Rob W you have nailed it!! They are Mirpuri Pakistani- they even don’t call them Pakistani and call them Kashmiris. In Leeds they have fought tooth and nail to call them Kashmiris. Check Leeds Taxi driver application form and under ethnicity they have got a separate column calling themselves as Kashmiris. It would have been a lot better if they called them Mirpuris - period .
@@oosyed I first understood this around 2005 when I worked with a couple of non-Mirpuri Pakistani lads. One of them told me, and I quote, "you English people don't understand what you're dealing with, the Pakistanis up north are all from Mirpur. They were all herding goats and living in shacks 50 years ago, now they come to England to marry their cousin, they are basically a bunch of hillbillies"
Since then I learned, 70% of British Pakistanis come from one small part of Kashmir.
Rob W I couldn’t agree more. These people show off in Pak (Mirpur Area) in front of villagers as people in bigger cities don’t even know where Mirpur is ( no exaggeration). They brag about being British and harass local people and eye their girls and promise them life in Britain where they enslave them to work in their shops (modern day slavery). They deliberately choose non educated people to bring in UK so they can’t complaint to local authorities. Some go as far as tearing passports away once they are in England. You will never see them in Mosque as they claim to be actually too integrated and mosque is not for them. Compare this lot in UK with Canada and Australia- they only took engineers, IT workers and doctors from mainland Pakistan (Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad- cream of Pakistan). Unfortunately Britain has made the same mistake by inviting gypsies from Slovakia and Romania. Thankless few. God bless UK that gave opportunity to all to speak, stand, follow which ever faith you want, universities, health services when you need them, schooling for children.
@@oosyed Most British people don't understand and I didn't used to myself. Only by visiting Asia do we really appreciate how big the countries are and how regionally and socially divided they still are.
I know one of the girls. She's still not okay. Don't blame her though. I've been through something similar and I don't think I'll ever be okay either.
@@lj8952 how about you stop being so rude. I'm a Christian and I would never do such thing. Also how can you say someone deserves such thing for accepting someone who is still flesh and blood? And it's not the Muslims communities fault. It's those specific Muslims. Religion doesn't need to come into this at all.
I'm so sorry that happened to you, I hope you can find some peace❤️
@@meganfree5631 it wasn't the exact same situation just the same abuse. I know one of the girls though. It's like love just doesn't exist anymore. I don't know what to think of this world. Thank you though.
Journey Bravely STAY STRONG BBYGIRL ! AND I HOPE YOU HEAL BUT NEVER FORGIVE OR FORGET WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU and YOUR FRIEND. IT WAS NOT TO UR FAULT ... IT IS A CULTURAL PROBLEM WITHIN THE MUSLIM PEOPLE AS A WHOLE, look at how oppressed the woman in their mother land are ... that what they wish for all women . NEVER LET THAT TAKE YOUR WORTH OR YOUR BEAUTY , YOU ARE A DAMN SURVIVOR AND YOU WILL BE OK!! One day you will heal and be able to help other girls who’ve had same experience! And that will give something positive and purpose to your assault ... much love from a fellow survivor here in USA . XOXOXOX
Really sorry to hear. Ive been here also. But im doing ok. If ever need to talk im happy to be an ear and shoulder
Mad how the police officers dont know the difference between consent and submission 😳🤬Disgusting
I do wish they'd stop using the euphemism "men of Asian ethnicity". It's got nothing whatever to do with ethnicity. We're not talking about some kind of genetic issue. Neither are we talking about "race". What we are needing to talk about is culture, and specifically religious culture and what those cultural understandings say about masculinity and femininity, childhood and adulthood, Muslims and non-Muslims, and who you respect sexually and who you exploit and mistreat sexually. Those categories need to be explored and discussed openly in public meetings, mosques, homes, schools, colleges, youth clubs, health clinics, prisons, on the street, everywhere. Those are the conversations we need to be having, and we need to challenge abusive cultures in every context. Hard conversations, but they'll save children's lives.
Sorry to say, those Pakistani were racists to white girls. They didn't do it to young muslim girls but to white girls.
Well said! ☺💎💖🏆
Thank you, good comment.
Because white girls wanted it. There parents let them do nighters.
Muslim girls were protected them days
Nowadays is worse
Just pointing out that there would be a death penalty if they did this under islamic law
Sara Rowbotham is incredible.
Women generally have more backbone than men.
@@emiliarose18 I couldn’t agree more women are tougher than men will ever be
Sexist comment / the females of Rotherham were let down by their parents..period @@annabritton9176
Tougher ermmm but females were pretty weak against the men ..if they were tough sex would not have happened .. so are you saying that they let it happen?? @@annabritton9176
The 69 dislikes are the predators who groomed these young girls 🤬🤬🤬
Now , there are 72, more and more of them are coming out of the closet I guess
Describing these Pakistani men as Asian does other people an injustice,
Neil Alderton thank you Neil. Not all of us Asians are pakistani. We aren’t included in this disgusting scandal
Umm... Pakistan is on the Asia continent. So they are Asian.
@@Kay0Bot you don't get it do you? Fool I know they are Asian that's not my point, if you had a full grasp of the English language, you would get it so I don't know why my reply has been highlighted!!!! I meant when you call them Asian you are insulting Chinese, Japanese, sikh, Vietnamese, do ya get it now???
I can not get it if you did not clearly explain your point initially. Don't be lazy. Write out your ideas and don't leave it for interpretations.
To your first point, calling them Asian does not give Asians a bad name. There are enough positive imagery of Asians that this instance would not lead leave a lasting negative impressions for the other ethnicities you mentioned.
dude by calling them Asian you are setting everyone else with the same brush ie virtually all of them have been Pakistani, where as that way your not labelling everyone I thought you get by reading the previous comments by the other person
And you wonder why citizens are scared of letting migrants in without vetting?
When a list of Muslim offenders were given to the elders in the local Mosque they said they recognised who they were and they would address it. Later they advised "it's got nothing to do with us". If that's not wiping your hands clean and pretending its not happening what is it? Disgraceful and utterly disgusting that the Imams and elders turned a blind eye!
maidment1 , but hardly surprising. At the end of the day, these were just the trash daughters of the infidel. We shouldn’t kid ourselves.
@@cmccall84cm Are you saying that having a hijab ripped off your head is exactly the same as young white girls getting raped and abused in other ways, just because they are white?
No actually, i know steps Rochdale took at the time, if the police couldnt do anything what would anyoje else do ?
@@cmccall84cm well said 👏
@@cmccall84cm Islam isn't a race
It's the 14 year anniversary today for me 11th July 2010 I will never forget the day my life changed forever. It took 7 years to get justice, this was in Essex. 7 yrs after I 1st reported them they were finally put in prison. I made my adult life beautiful and for that I'm proud 💯💜
It's funny how the BBC try and turn it around and say its English peoples faults
Filthy BBC
It did make it worse don't lie to yourself
It's literally reversed. Remember when Iran had its internet cut off? BBC only showed it when it started trending but it was going on for months. BBC is some propaganda bullshit.
Parents are responsible for protecting their children, no matter how much they want complete freedom to do whatever they want.
@@keithkahley7295 it’s not about the parents it’s about the children? A lot of these cases are young girls from broken homes, blaming parents does nothing, just because a child has had bad parents that makes it okay? it’s the sick people who actually groom and abuse these kids who are to blame and it’s the government who are to blame it kept quiet so long
Imagine the shock of the parents, and then to have their pleads and cries rejected by the institutions that they were told that they could trust. Terrible!
I can't imagine that shock as a parent. I need to know what my kids are up to. Being able to be shocked by something like that means i don't know where or what they were up to.
Hopefully i have educated my kids enough not to be around people like that. I have also made my kids know drinking ain't a good idea til you are old enough. It's hard for a child to surprise a parent if the parent is paying attention.
their parents were complicit and none of it could’ve happened without the parents lack of care
Some parents done it for cash …wake up you Muslim hater
I can only imagine how many they abused in their own families communities... then they went out and looked else were to not be caught within the communities and families. A pedophiles starts at home then moves into the community. How many little girls did they hurt within their own families. Little girls that will never be the same.
This documetary should b shown on tv today . Its much worse than the Post Office Scandal .
As a Pakistani / British could not believe this happened and nothin was done about it till so many years after so sorry too everyone not all Pakistani people are like this ! And thank god for afzal who came and turned it around and got the prosecutions done !
Mirbani bi
@Peter D like your empty head
@@9shazad In your country and religion this is all fine though
Many pakistani taxi drivers are involved in this
@@britishempireno1fan851 no it isn't tho where does it say in our religion being a nonce is ok😂😂😂 its not a culture or religion thing if you let villagers from 3rd world countries in this is what happens. My family is a turkish immigrant but we came here working are arses off and never even spoke to police officers before so don't bring religion into it when its personal traits of people coming in not their religion or culture
Good to see this being available on youtube. Now if only the official subtitles had been made available to side load too.
If only they had subtitles in Punjabi or Arabic our little Pakistanis friends might be able to watch and enjoy like we can.
Bbc implying it's our fault for the terrorist attack
The BBC needs shutting down. They covered up the names of the grooming offenders - disgraceful reporting!
Defund the BBC
To the victims,I'm sorry for what you went through,I hear you and know it's wrong what they did to you, your brave for speaking out.
I grew up in this area at this time. Girls did not trust police or adults, we just didn't. I was caught up in my own abuse situation, and I was almost roped into being abused by this gang too. Just happened to go in another direction so never got picked up for a "party". When it all came out a lot made sense, it's not that I knew exactly what was going on but I wasn't surprised. I don't live anywhere near there anymore, I don't ever want to go back.
And note about the taxis: 100% we never trusted taxis! Everyone knew it was better to wait in the bus station or on a train platform for the last one, even if that meant waiting hours, then get in a taxi. You just didn't get taxis, ever! It was better to walk home on the canal than get a taxi
I'm glad you got out safe. It's a shame that there was no one looking out for the young and vulnerable as you were growing up.
Are white girls 👧 Turnt on by Muslim Men in General to be Willing to Be Groomed as They are or seem to Be?? 14-15 year Girls are not Dumb and this Information about Grooming Been Around For Years YET they Some what Participate to a Degree at the age of 14-15-16. At that Age I understood what was Right n Wrong and they do as well, so 🤷 What I'm I Missing As a Non British Person. People Target Vulnerable Girls Here In America But Not in a Obviously RACIAL and Religious Motivated malicious intent to DAMAGE white Girls mentally n Sexually. If it's KNOWN For Years What still drives young girls to them???
That’s so fucking scary man
@iliketowatch. i did have people looking out for me, one of the main reasons this group didn't target me. But when you're raised in a culture of not talking, unspoken abuse, and being undiagnosed autistic, you just don't talk about things
Come on BRITS.....let take action it’s up to us to protect our mothers, sisters and daughters. The system is failing us.Let’s all pull together and do something so Britain changes its ways. ARE WE WAITING FOR IT TO HAPPEN TO OUR DAUGHTERS BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION.... No we can’t do this no CHILD should be going through this NO CHILD.... let’s change the world and bring this to an end..... our sisters need us. We all need to take action to help our sister and daughters.
Guru ji’s Kaur Let’s change the world well said 👍🏻🙏🏼
What boys in Afghanistan and Pakistan they’re sexual abuse everyday no one talks about it instead we are focusing on Sikh girls and English girls. Also we have catholic priests doing to this boys and girls
About our sons ?
Madness, So Sad! Evil Bastards! Sad Thing Is This Still Happens Today And It Will Never Stop 😣 It's Weird Because Growing Up When I Was A Teen From 13 - 17 Years Old Around 2006 - 2011, It Was Always Asian Men Who Shouted Out In Cars " How Old Are You Can We Have Your Number Sexy " Around London At Me At My Mates. And They Were Older But We Used To Just Walk On Never Gave Them The Time Of Day... Sick World. Now I'm 25 With A Daughter Thinking, Me And My Mates Are Lucky We Didn't Go Over And Get In Their Cars...
Muslim*** Dont class half of the world by using asian because that is what went wrong here. Let's speak facts.
How can these filmmakers expose disgusting abuse before going on to criticise those who spoke up about it months and even years beforehand? The level of cognitive dissonance on display here is mind-boggling. People like Tommy Robinson have been absolutely shredded in the media for doing nothing but expressing valid concerns for his community.
The British need to hold their government accountable.
Mean Man have you seen our government 😂
LABOUR GOVERNMENT RUN AREAS !!
Its not "the government" ... its the BUREAUCRACY! Just think about "Priti Patel vs. Sir Rutnam" ... its a really tough case of THE DEEP STATE!
When I first got to the Uk London I loved British people so open minded welcoming patient and understanding then I noticed a slight change I went once north to Manchester and thought people were different it kinda changed my initial view in brits but I’m not stupid so I digged deep to understand why the sudden change only to find out that it was understandable I feel sorry for Europe it’s being changed and I’m at the same time amazed at the level of patience européen people show to us foreigners.
I just want to say thank you 🙏 and sorry at the same time I left London by the way I hope that the next time I come back I will find it better ❤️❤️❤️
Sad things that this is still going on around the UK
I fear that these people chosen to do this, when the public arise they will surely play the victim but by than it can be too late, hope it doesn't come to that, it could be way more caos.
Racism is a slippery slope I don't envy the police officers at all, but I do feel like this whole issue could have been sorted a while ago if th3 officers had spotted the signs and had not blamed the teens.
The establishment and the police are equally to blame for ignoring this travesty, fire them all and stop their pensions, once that's done you wouldn't see a repeat of this disgusting behaviour.
The government are 100% to blame, the victims need good lawyers to start taking ALL enablers to court, hit them in the pocket and jail time. God bless all the victims and their families and pray justice will be achieved.
No the rapists are 100% to blame in the first place for doing it. Others are guilty of letting it continue.
I am waiting for the scandal to come out for the adult girls abused. In Bristol there’s a place called the sanctuary it’s often used exclusively by people with BPD - EVERYONE knows that the sanctuary is a mental health drop in. After a visit the patient is driven home by a taxi… I went there a couple of times for support following a bereavement and EVERY TIME I went in a taxi the driver who was Asian would ask if I’d eaten, if I wanted food, if I had a boyfriend etc. I reported it but nothing happened of it. If they did that to me then others would have been affected also - I am not hopeful it will come out as the very illness that made these girls vulnerable will prevent them from being listened to and heard. Edit: I knew what they were after so I lied and said I had a boyfriend and I was seeing him in the morning
I’m a British Pakistani muslim, born and raised in Rochdale and I can assure you, we are not all raised in this disgusting manner which is depicted in this series. I was raised to respect other religions, other beliefs and other people regardless of their colour, caste or status. The people who committed these atrocious crimes are beyond horrible and should spend the rest of their lives rotting in jail. Just because a few people decide to disgrace our background and culture, doesn’t mean some people should fail to see the beautiful REAL culture.
unfortunately this stains the entire community, what compels them to do shit like this?
A few people? Sod off with that nonsense.
An Sich Yes, a few people in comparison to the many peaceful Pakistani Muslims like me who don’t wish harm to anyone. Also, there are people in every religion that do horrible things, not everyone has a human mindset if they can do inhumane shit like this
SDSen I wish I knew
@@irraxxa1677
Well I'll ask you a question, if you owned an island that had been in your family for generations, then you allowed some people come live on your island and with in a short amount of time a small percentage of those people started rapeing/pimping out your relatives, blowing things up trying to kill you, stabbed your relatives to death, started changing how your island operates, started mutilating little girls genitals (FGM), started telling you that you were responsible for the actions of great grandparents and every time you tried to do something to stop what those invited people were doing to your island home, they rioted or refused to change. How would you react? How would you feel? What would you do about it?
I'll ask you an other question, if society's going to start playing the game that white Britis who are live to day are responsible for historic colonialism. If society is going to start playing the game that white people have white privilege or that men have male privilege. If society is going to play that game, if were going to play the game of group responsibility, if white Brits are held responsible for the actions of other white Brits, if men are going to be held responsible for the actions of other men, why shouldn't the Pakistani community be held responsible for the actions of other members of the Pakistani community? That would be equally yes, all groups treated equal yes.
Now this grooming shit is the only thing people outside of Rochdale think of us. It’s disgusting
Frankly if you're Muslim you virtually can get away with anything. In Germany the police was also afraid of reporting a massive amount of rape-like behavior in Cologne at New Year's 2015-16. It's not the incidents that are most shocking. It's the fear the police had. Thus they reported what they believed the politicians wanted to hear: "No incidents".
The offenders were Muslim refugees....
Political correctness can unfortunately lead to unwanted consequences (extreme right-wing support). Politicians and the police should stop looking the other way if Muslims are involved
Markus D. I partially agree with this. But this is a minority and we cannot punish the majority for these actions.
@@caitlinshields4828 I just wrote that they can virtually get away with anything. Just look at slave labor in Qatar or Saudi Arabia. Nobody cares. They have UN resolutions on a weekly basis. Unfortunately the left is too obsessed with protecting some minorities no matter what.
But certainly it is not all Muslims! Just nobody cares about the ones that are misbehaving. It's also a close call if you say something. You overstep your argument and they might blow you up ;)
My husband is a muslim and he is often targeted by the police.
So true! It’s disgusting
@@hollyandrews1516 Good Hope he gets put in jail
How naive is that MP? That Labour Cryer woman? Unislamic behaviour? The problem is this behaviour is VERY islamic. It's all documented in their book, and this problem of child raping gangs, let's start calling it what it is - it's not grooming, it's rape, will never go away until the problem with Islam is faced and confronted!!!
Exactly! They even have child marriage!! It’s absolutely disgusting 🤮
these women bringing light to the situation... I have to respect as our own version of human superheros. we need to bring light to this reality!!
This has not stoped and has continued to this day.
I just saw a bbc show about this scandal called three girls
Thry wabt you to think its just Rotherham, it is everywhere
And it was in real life way worse because they only showed the alcohol not the drugs.
The police didn't want to be bothered because its like rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. Its still going on to this day in cities all around, and always will to some extent in deprived, rough areas with complex social issues...and not just Pakastani gangs. Its same with local white or african crime gangs. Horrible but true 😥
This is a devastating story. I feel so sorry for the girls this happened too. I don't mean to be judgmental of the girls parents but I am struggling to understand how girls as young as 12-15 are allowed to be going out by themselves at that age with no parental supervision.
Did you actually watch the video
'Political correctness' allowed it to continue!
Yeah. To them, it's better to be a rapist than a racist.
@@CathyKitson they're both despicable,one believes in the virtue of sexual assault and another belives in the inhumanity of his fellow human beings.
@@aurockscastillo5460 Rapists are way worse though. Racial prejudice is caused by pattern recognition, it is human instinct.
@@nzuncovered1845 maybe you should get a life and stop being a bigot,unsteadiness of embracing nonsense like this.
Wtaf the reporter who was talking about keeping it quiet for years.. then finally found a voice and the only time I heard him say the words POISONOUS DEVIDE only when talking about the EDL not the abuse itself...
‼️ wake up mate ‼️
This scares the hell out of me as a Canadian. With Trudeau as PM, and the same kind of craziness starting over hear. I'm in Alberta, which is the most conservative Province in the country. And I think I have faith that the police would never let this happen, nor would they dare cover this up. Well Maybe the RCMP might try, but it would be leaked quick. But down east this could happen today.
I am so tired of this PC culture, and no one sees the dangers of it. The fact a reporter even admits he didn't write the story because he didn't want to harm his political party? That happens here. But no reporter would ever admit it. Because they would be finished, and the news agency they worked for would be utterly trashed.
To think, I was a Liberal about 3 years back... I just can't see how anyone who is honest with them selves can put up with this crap.
Yep!!
I cant believe that im not a liberal anymore. But i dont like my freedom of speech being taken away, i dont like that im supposed to hate my self bc im white and i dont want sharia law in canada! Its so sad this hypicrisy and idiocy being adopted by students these days. They really WANT a cause, want to feel important but are so misguided..
As a Canadian from Toronto who has lived in Manchester since 97, i can tell you that you have every reason to be scared. I was a liberal as well, but in this current global climate someone like Trudeau who is trying to please everyone and has an open door agenda is dangerous and needs to go.
I am happy you see the truth for what it is. What made you change from being a liberal to moderate/conservative if I may ask?
Well hello from 2024…
Political Corectness is more important than protecting young girls from rape.
Now i understand why can people be Racist or hate islam, this should not be the reason but Pakistani people dont even know that is illegal, its happening everday in Pakistan. ( thats what i know) I’m so sorry for the children who get hurt and their family… I hope the government do something about it without getting called “Racist”
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RUclips keeping this at the bottom of the stack
They should have done more sooner..
Maggie knew the cases, but was shut down. She was only called in on the cases after it all blew up in their faces.
They should have listened to Maggie and her partners, years earlier.. It's normal in their own countries. But not here in the civilised world. It's grooming and rape..
Why do the BBC always go off-story to make clumsy political mileage out of these tragedies? This film was supposed to be about 'Betrayed Girls', girls were clearly not betrayed by the 'far right' any more than the 'far-left'. As one father says, community reaction wasn't about racism, it was total and utter frustration caused directly by politicians, police and pretty much the whole of the British Welfare system who chose Political Correctness over the safety of English children and failed totally in their duty of care. If Maggie Oliver is correct in her assertion that documents that she prepared 'went missing' in the possession of Greater Manchester Police, at the very least shouldn't criminal charges be laid concerning tampering with evidence and perverting the course of justice?
Phil Drane yea and how far do you think that criminal investigation would go re: tampering of documents? It would go nowhere and you know it
If there is a HELL. ALL The people who let these girls down. And ALL the abusers..... I hope you ALL end up there.
I can't believe the Muslim elders chose it ignore it rather than confronting the list of men. They really didn't help themselves or their community. Then they wonder why so many people are against Muslims/Pakistani's as much as I hate to say that. I'm not justifying prejudice or racism by any means but complicicy is just as wrong. Also, them turning a blind could be racism on their behalf as it it has been girls within thier own communities being abused they may have acted. If they want to live in other countries then they need to value the people of that nation otherwise, why move in the first place. Acceptances shouldn't be one sided
@Argumentology I think she meant that it is the responsability of any Muslim Local Leader to report, condemn and stop any sex grooming commited by members of their own community.
Cheeky bastard had the audacity to call the police and report her for smashing the shop up. To be honest I’m surprised the public didn’t do anything. I’m probably going get some stick for that comment. Just saying!!!
Not from me 👍
No not from me. You are absolutely right
@Allison Day s
How can a person watch this and not be disgusted and think there is a problem with Islam.
Matthew Hitchens the problem is not with Islam and never will be , the problem is with people doing those horrible deeds and pretending to be muslim ...this is not Islam and will never be . I am disgusted by their actions
@@sarahvegangarden4822 Well indeed shame on this Pakistani men. But the Police, the social services and the councils that did nothing about it. And want to be silent about it because they are scared to be called racists? That is the biggest shame.
I get that it’s hard to always know where your kid is when they are a teen, especially if you want to show them trust and let the expand as a person, but fuck man, if you get even a whiff of this happening to your daughter, how do you not make sure she is with you all the time.
If you work normal hours she’s out of school when you’re off of work, if not, I can see how hard it could be. But man, I’d be on a goddamned man hunt if I knew this was happening to my daughter. This is so sickening, I’m so sorry for all theses girls, I’m sorry for the parent who didn’t know what was going on. This is sick
I would like to bring the Imams and the Muslim community leaders to account. They are as equally as culpable. They knew very well what was going on and they chose to turn a blind eye for, presumably, not to rat on someone of their own community. With such an attitude, is it surprising that the bandied about “integration” is just a pipe dream? And also, if you wanna know why police and social services are seen as the enemy by decent-minded folks, look no further. In this story you have everything you have to know....
Police , the people in power talking about consent to sex from 12 13 year olds...did thy had kids of there own..why did ppl in power get away from this so easily..thy should face charges for encouraging those evil ppl!!
Theyre all Afghan or pakistani men do you not think its strange the majority of them are that origin because it might be okay in their countries but its not okay in ours if they dont like it they can go back to where theyre from.
Thank God for Maggie Oliver, we need you in Australia 🇦🇺, much respect! Too all the victims I want to say, “I believe you!” Evil does exist! It’s not your fault!
A women took this girls in her home for then giving to these Pakistani men. A father called the Police and they went to that house, he wanted his 12 year old girl back. Well the Police arrested the father. How disguisting. UK Brexit or no Brexit. Britain is already doomed as hell.
I used to work in a children's home
You cannot stop a child from going out the house
We weren't a secure unit so if the girls wanted to go out they could
A lot of girls I worked with who were exploiting in Sheffield chose to meet these a lot of the time by Calling up the men and arranging to meet them or to be picked up
We would take as many names registration plates etc
But the police and social workers couldn't do anything unless girls came forward
This stuff goes off up and down the country in every town and city and police and authorities know who they
Underage girls? You don't need their cooperation.
I worked in a childrens home and one of the young girls would go and use some ‘freephone’ number from a phone box that would put her through to a chat line. This 15yr old had been sexually abused by her uncle and was desperate to have a baby so she could have someone to love. God only knows who she met up with.
@@christinaribena3972why didn’t you try and find out
Not one official has been tried for criminal negligence. Not one.
I'm white, so was my social worker in rochdale
He got 17 years at minshull street in 2018
Just about made rochdale observer and MEN
Nothing more, explain that then !!!
In tears watching this. I have been fighting this shit for over 20 years, but just get branded a racist
Louise Constantine god bless yuh 🙏🏼
Racist!!
LOL who do you work for?
I mean in what aspect are you fighting this? I'm interested as we have simular problems in my area and I'm interested to know where it gets blocked?
@@mmabennyj By fighting I mean trying to get the powers that be to admit they let so many of us down. We were brave enough to report it at the time but nothing was done, the people who pushed it all under the carpet for fear of being seen as being racist are as guilty. If something had have been done back in the mid 90's it wouldn't be the massive problem it is now
@@Porsha-Laurell Thank you x
Keep going...I got 2 daughters and I'm paranoid of this kind of thing happening
They did it because it's Britain and the sentences there are known to be very light. They did it because they could.
And they knew, that they could play the victim card as poor victims of racism, if they would get suspected. And it worked far too long.
Not a day goes by I dont think of these girls and how utube hides this video at the bottom of the list.
@La belle Sunshine if it anything like the guardian channel fast very fast at shadowbanning
@La belle Sunshine "algorithm"
It is still going on today, police, councils, schools and social services ignoring the facts
Victims of political correctness. Identify the problem, acknowledge the problem and deal with the problem, something that is sadly being ignored in Britain.
After all this that i watched can someone convince me with facts that i am a racist and not someone filled up with anger pity and sadness ?
Here in America, we have these things called wood chippers. You toss tree limbs in and they get ground up into mulch. This is where these men would end up if it were my daughter. 😡
Uncomfortable in your own country!!!
It isn't their country..
This country had the opportunity a long time ago not to put itself in the position of having to deal with racial problems in our society. We chose wrongly and will continue to pay the price for that folly. Nobody asked the indigenous population if they wanted to become multicultural.
The Manchester police haven't improved. Just this year I went to them about a groomer. Feel ill
SHAME ON THE POLICE
Shame on the Pakistani grooming hand also
Shame on the Police, social services and the councils it is political to.
Shame on the perpetrators!
I've no idea if this would work or not, but if families are worried about their daughters' safety and the police aren't interested maybe they could go to the nearest Army camp and make a complaint to the Military Police and ask them to take it up.
The British Army are generally not too concerned by political correctness so worried members of the public may have more luck with them than with the civilian police. Don't know if the Military Police have jurisdiction under the law outside the military context but I'll see what I can find out....
I don't think it would work. I am not from the UK but i know a lot about this. Don't forget it was not only the police. It was Political to. So the army wouldn't help.
@@eviken1982 Actually I think the Military would very much enjoy overriding the politicians, but you're right; it probably wouldn't have worked.
i have so so so much respect for sara rowbotham , and the way she was treated been made redundant and all that is appaling whoever made that decision should ashamed of themselves , because she is an amazing women along with maggie oliver, these 2 ladies should be highly commended, as for the children what happened to them breaks my heart and when i found out the men got found guilty and what sentence they got, i screamed at the top of my voice yeeeees hang the bastards, how could a human being treat another human being the way they treated those babies? evil evil animals you can even call them human beings, there wont be no forgiveness for what they did no matter how much they pray, they will go to hell and so they should, as for maggie oliver and sarah robotham, THANKYOU, for looking out for our children and trying to keep them safe, THANKYOU, THANKYOU, THANKYOU, you both have my upmost and sincere respect , thankyou.
This is absolutely harrowing viewing. The death penalty should be brought back rather then locking them all up in an already overcrowded prison system.
Poor, poor families Lord !! The parents of these poor girls must have been in pure hell. Incredible that even the bloody old bill and the social services were in on it, with the higher powers and allowed these crimes to have taken place upon children. Outrageous.
I know one of the girls. I've been told her parents weren't much better.
THEN THE COURT GIVES THEM ACCESS TO MORE UNBELIEVABLE
Says it all really, the leader of the BNP gets arrested by the the police who themseves totally ignored phone calls for a whole year about girls getting raped!!! If the police, social services and the Imans who were asked to help had done their jobs there would have been no reason for the BNP to be involved. It was not them causing racism it was the institutions not having the guts to deal with the problem afraid they would be classed as racist, what an absolute disgrace! My heart goes out to all those poor girls and we know now in 2023 this is still happening!!
The United Kingdom is such a beacon of enlightenment, freedom, liberty, justice, truth, wisdom, courage, strength, love, etc,. So is the EU
Muhammad safiq saying there's nothing in Islam that justifies this, that's Tacqiya in action. Islam definitely justifies IT . That's WHY THEY DO IT they don't think they are doing anything wrong
FOREST FANATIC what are you saying the things they are doing is haraam (forbidden) in Islam.you can’t judge a religion based on what some Muslims to because many Christians have done worse and they’ve done the things these disgusting men have done.i don’t know what a mind of an Islamaphobeeis like but I hope someday you’ll choose to research the religion itself and change your opinion on it .not all Muslims are bad,not all Christians are bad just beacause a few people are bad doesn’t make everyone else
Sex outside marriage . Adultery. Rape. Thats all death penalty crimes. What are you talking about
@@abdirahmanidris290 Not for concubines
@@Robertsmith001 ah yes. Concubines. The slaves captured in a just war. I wasn't aware there was a war. Plus your supposed to obey the law of the land so in the non existent event they can do this they still cannot do it😂
Taqqiya is lying under persecution. Stop embarrassing yourself
I watched this documentary this afternoon and though it takes place in England, it shines a brilliant spotlight on what's wrong with America's criminal justice system. While all these factions of government argued among themselves about who didn't say what to whom, these men got away with grooming underage girls for sex. Between the barristers for the defense blaming the girls involved and more or less looking down their noses at them which in turn victimized them all over again, to the perpetrators crying racism at the reading of the verdict (something the police were afraid of being accused of so they took their time prosecuting these sickos) to the minorities getting up in arms about the verdict. It happens all the time here in the US. Criminals are getting off Scott free because juries are being threatened with what will happen if they find a person of color guilty of a crime. If this had happened in the case of these three girls, pedophiles would still be roaming free in England grooming an raping unsuspecting teenage girls. That's not the way the justice system is supposed to work. If someone murders, rapes or commits a violent crime against someone else and there's evidence to support a guilty verdict, you owe it to the victim to prosecute and it doesn't matter what color they are.
Check out the Victoria Climbie case. She was a little girl from the Ivory Coast brought over to England by her aunt. Despite the police and social workers getting overwhelming evidence of child abuse they refused to take action as white members of staff didn't want to be called racist. Victoria Climbie was tortured and murdered. She would be alive today without the nonsense of CRT or political correctness,
Do you know that this is still happening? nobody is doing anything about it!
its still going on they let the very few they arrested go...
40:40 how could this happen, a smoking gun of evidence not followed up.
how has this video only got 86000 views wtf
Because many people instinctively refuse to look at this problem at all. Their entire world and the value system would collapse if they did. Many people still claim that this is a conspiracy theory. They live in a world of lies where whites are always racists evil and Muslims are always oppressed minorities.
Pure evil..
I’m sorry, is it bad to be afraid of Islam if it’s the Islamic ideology that encourages this behavior? I don’t give a crap where you’re from, I just care about what you believe and what you believe in.
Scott King Islam does not encourage this Islam is the most peaceful religion there is just because some people happen to be Muslim who do these things are bad doesn’t make everyone else in the same way a lot of Christians do bad things but that doesn’t make them all bad
@@Bigfan-my8ge The Quran has verses on sex slavery. Muhammad had sex slaves (and other slaves). Muhammad killed people, and tortured at least one person (by lighting a fire on his chest to make him reveal where his treasure was hidden so Muhammad could steal it). Muhammad promises that when men die they will have "perpetual virgins" they can endlessly have sex with. Read your Quran carefully. Read the hadiths carefully. Think carefully about such teachings. Maybe compare those teachings with other religions to see which religions are peaceful and compassionate and which religions teach believers to despise, hate, enslave and kill non-believers. Study religion in detail for yourself. Don't be content with second-hand information. Search out the truth for yourself. Notice the contradictions for yourself.
@@Bigfan-my8geDo you want evidence?
Wow, the amount that all the various orginization turned a blind eye to what was going on is shocking. Isn't that what social services and the police are supposed to be in place for? To protect kids no matter who they are living with??? How is the fact that these kids were living with thier parents and not in care relevant? ???
Would’ve never happens under Tories. Northerners need to vote out Labour Party.
you are wrong, the tories are the same as labour
@@imagesandthat7888 Labour are worse
This will continue to an ongoing issue and probably deteriorate as long as there is a policy of indiscriminate immigration to this country. It's a culture clash of massive proportions. One only has to look at the current situation in Sweden,Germany and and France(not to mention Ireland); where mass immigration and the breakdown of law in the community has led to massive increases of crimes of violence, and sexual exploitation. Differing cultures have varying perspectives; conditioned by upbringing. The weaponizing of language and the use of so called 'hate speech' has exasperated the situation, were there is a difference in racial backgrounds. Political correctness should not be used as a weapon against the truth.
Christopher Milner extremely well said!
You poor girls 💔💔💔😞. Devils did these acts to you, not humans.
Still going on and happening in Barrow In Furness!
@Peter D it’s too late for that mate
England should stand up for itself what's wrong with the people they should be out having a strike our something.
Every person who turned away from this needs to get what they deserve and be chucked in a cell