The 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro Is Outdated on Arrival - No, You're Wrong!
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You guys made this a very entertaining review.
Trying to make an old truck exciting 😴😪 . The new Tundra will be a breath of fresh air tho
THEY ARE A CUTE COUPLE FOSHO!!!!! 💖
Don't forget it's made almost entirely in the good old USA 🇺🇸!
Like DonDeskins said, you guys crack me up. Well Don didn’t exzact day that but we both entertained!!! Good looking truck ! Best on the road , they last a long time too!!!🍀🍀🍀🍀🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
Rear locker again!🍀
I bought a 2007 and now own a 2018 Tundra. With both of these trucks, I have towed my 28' Airstream travel trailer all over the United States. Never have I had ANY kind of reliability issue or mechanical problem. Flawless performance from both with brilliant ease of towing. I may not have all of the electronic bells and whistles of other trucks, but I have solid reliable performance, up and down every mountain range in the U.S. Superb performance and supreme comfort. I wouldn't trade my Tundra for any other truck.
Mike Minton great to hear that.
Mike I’ve run my toyotas all over these north Alabama mountians and southern swamps. Toyota is only trucks in my yard. I keep 3 allways ! One for work one for play one for in between🍀
If you never had any issues with your 2007, why waste money on a new one?
@@seantaylor2683 I bought a new one because I wanted the Platinum trim level (Old one was the Limited trim level) and I wanted the new "Safety Suite", radar cruise control, built in trailer brake controller and Bluetooth capability.
Mike Mintun Toyota rules my driveway as well. Since 1983 no other brand in my girls hands nor mine!
20 years from now, this will be a collectors dream. Much like the FJ Cruiser is today.
The simplicity of this vehicle will keep it from "planned obsolescence".
So true. Love my 2013. Analog no high tech hard to use bullshit inside my the truck..
So true and 5 to 10 years these tundras are going to be with the 5.7 Land cruiser is right now a collector's dream they are bulletproof and will hold their value buy one and keep it best half ton on the road really three quarters the way it's built simplicity at its best.
You guys are wrong about everyone wanting a short bed. I wish the crew cab was offered in the 6.5 ft. bed.
Kevin Hicks yes... but other than that great!
First Gen has it
I would trade my double cab in instantly. They make the chassis to fit it. Hopefully someday.
There was an aftermarket builder that modified crew max trucks to add a 6.5ft bed. Idk if they're still around though
The double cab is plenty big enough and still has 4 doors if you just need room for kids back there or adults on short trips
Reliability > Features
why not both??
@Chris Ruiz
Apparently, a lot. New fog lights, huge light bar, front and rear aftermarket bumpers, skid plates, and a winch. Not too mention, huge mud tires, aftermarket shocks, and lift kit. However, no one in their right mind is going to take a full size crew cab [heavy ass] truck onto serious off-roading trails.
@Chris Ruiz
As for the old adage, "..if its not broke.."..it gets boring seeing the same truck for more than 5 years or so.
So you ride a horse or a Model T?
Honestly, id say screw the features, just more things that can break over time and cost a fortune to fix. Give me an original toyota pickup, or a 1st gen d150 (either 318 or 360) where all you need to fix them is WD40, a screwdriver and a couple wrenches. Are they efficient? Kind of. Are they luxurious? Hell no. Can they run forever if well maintained? Yup. I remember as a kid our water pump on our '84 ramcharger (318) went out on a Sunday evening in Windsor Ontario. My father fixed it really quick once we found an auto parts store open and with minimal tools. Couldn't realistically do that with any vehicle made today.
I didn’t buy my tundra for any crazy features. I bought it because I didn’t want to be in the shop getting it fixed all the time. Love my tundra. Thanks for this video.
SPARTAN GAMING sometimes that’s all some people need. Just a reliable car/ truck to drive. 4 wheels and a box.
Mike so glad your being so kind. And so glad you took the time to watch my videos:) i did have a Ford but had problems with it lol haha. Love my tundra. Have a nice day dude🤣🤣🤣🤣
Totally agree. Had an F150 lariat that was in the shop constantly. Timing issues at 70k miles. Everything that could go bad did in a short period of time. Got rid of that POS before the 100k mile warranty expired and got a Tundra and couldn't be happier. Toyotas from here on out.
@Tim Tom true
Andre and Nathan together are my favorite combo
Abbott and Costello v.2
yea i like them too, Roman and his nerdy son are painful to listen to
Seeing the thumbnail, I was hoping for a little bit a wrasslin' goin' on! LOL
Agree
Toyota Tundra’s will always hold a special place in my heart and will always be one of if not my favorite trucks. It was the first truck I ever drove and is currently what I am driving right now. I get about 400 miles out of each tank and the truck has not a single time ever had any problems and its currently over 70000 miles (not that impressive of a number at all in comparison to the million miles two tundras have hit). its big, its loud, and its just an awesome truck. never fails to bring a smile to my face when I drive it.
Still have my 2014 Platinum. Averaging 14mpg and 240ish miles per tank
Have a 21 Platinum 38 Gallon fuel tank and I love. Get almost 550-60p mikes out of each tank. Truck has 4100 on it now. I was speaking to another Tundra owner he has had 3 now he’s in a 20 platinum said his fuel mileage increased after 10k mikes or so. I’ll see if that’s true.
Thank you Toyota for remaining OUTDATED, in all the ridiculous places I've taken my OUTDATED Toyota trucks/4Runners with 4 to 500,000 m. on them they always get me back to my OUTDATED house!
@@2011buddylee Amen. Toyota builds a decent product but these fanboys are too much 😂
Sorry to hear that Buddy but after 2 at 170 000 and worn out, you bought 2 more? interesting.
@@gregsanders9563 I have two Tundras, an 03 and an 08 both with over 240K miles and they still run amazing. I switched to Toyota when we had to rebuild the transmission on our F150 at only 115K miles.
@@Immortalkalashnikov
At only 115k miles? That's a lot miles on a transmission. You left out the part where you were hauling or pulling over the truck's towing capacity.
@@Sig721Tau Uhm both our Tundras have over 240K miles on the original transmission and are also used in the same line of work that the F150 was used for. The Tundras were simply more reliable.
Everyone on this video: "This truck is ANCIENT!"
Me in my 1985 K10: "...what?"
And the rear windows open. Reach back and pop the latches.
Exactly! Still driving my 88 Toyota SR5. Old trucks rule... No payments!🍻
Yeah I daily a 97 Jeep XJ. Frankly I average 13 mpg. Going to a much larger more powerful vehicle with 15 mpg is an upgrade all around.
Chevy isn't trying to market that as a new truck lol
@@zzzz-ok7733 Exactly mate but these modern car lovers will never learn.
"with an iron grip" thought he was gonna say IRON FIST but hes probably not to fond of that wording. lol
Iron fist?
@@Sig721Tau is a soviet union / Russian thing.
@@TheDaltonmichaels Also a MOTORHEAD thing!
@@beercanrich99 and a comic thing...
I bought a used Tundra TRD 4x4 that has almost no modern technology built in other than a backup camera....I bought the last of the old school big reliable trucks....and I love it.
I dont even have power seats lol.
Same here but mine is 2020 and I could give a shit about technology
@Wayne Smith vehicles made after 2015 are mandated(in the US) to have a backup camera anyways...
@@Apersonnamedme that's when the law was passed, automakers have several years to comply.
As of 2018 all cars sold in the US will have a reverse camera per DOT.
The truck is tough long lasting and simple, everything you add makes the truck price go up and up and up. I am a Chevy guy and I am thinking of buying one ..
My 08 suffered from the front differential howl/growl problem resulting in a replacement front differential...and 2 years later the same issue had resurfaced....rear axle bearing failures, and a couple years later they were failing again. Water pump leaking like a sieve at 54k, very poor build quality and replacement parts aren't any better. Finally sold it at 104k, don't miss it at all...on another note, my 05 Tundra has been trouble free with 164k on it.
@@2011buddylee Yep they decided to completely ruin the Tundra with that garbage engine.
James Turner I advise you to look into it, I had an 07 and just bought a 15 TRD PRO (1st of this model) I love it, at least drive it and try it.
I have a 2012 5.7 180,000. No problems at all.
@@wildbill23c My 2008 limited has 567,901 miles CURRENT on it and nothing major has changed on it. Only tires, gas, batteries and oil.
How is superior engineering, and superior reliability considered obsolete?????
Older than dirt!
I've had a fair amount of vehicles and my new 2019 White Tundra Platinum is by far the best one yet! It fits me like a glove.
I put TRD black 18 rims and TRD exhaust on it. Heated/Cooling seats, memory electronic seats with super reliability. Such an amazing truck. Perfect for what I need.
Wish we could get this in the "world wide famous Toyota Diesel" other countries get but not us!🤢
yes and no... to get the diesel, it'll most likely be 10k more expensive and comes with a whole slew of emission hardware that are super prone to failure, even at Toyota's standards. Not to mention the extra expense of DEF. You could do a delete, which would give you the best thing about diesels, but that's a few grand just to do that and the engine has to get tuned... therefore losing out on potential warranty. F150 and RAM's diesels aren't selling like hotcakes either, so the market is very small, not profitable enough for Toyota to spend millions to try to get it emissions approved for the US
DaDa啊達啦 like 97* of ram 2500’s and 3500’s comes with cummins instead of hemi’s
@@chrishansen7004 That's a whole different category, most people who buy heavy duties actually use them as trucks, while most half tons are just for getting groceries and getting to the mall. Why did you think Ford, GM and Ram took so damn long to bring out diesels in half tons? and the American Ford Ranger is the only country that doesn't come with a diesel, some countries only sell it with a diesel engine. Regulations, since they sell half tons so much more than heavy duties, they're a lot more strict, and the market for diesel engine is so small they need to really find out if it's worth investing. Petrol is still by far the biggest seller even with the available diesel in half tons.
Toyota will come out with a hybrid Tundra before they put a diesel in it. It'll most likely use less gas while towing a lot more.
Put a 4bt Cummins in yours.
Same comments on all the toyota videos. Buy what makes you happy and what aligns with your beliefs as to what the best truck is. Pretty simple.
For me it was the Tundra. I didn't even look at anything else. Bought my 16 almost four years ago. Had the radio replaced and that's it. Radio still worked but one of the functions stopped working. Trucks been flawless. I've towed cars with no issue and been all over with it.
Ppl talk about poor mileage but what they don't know or mention is the gear set is 4.30. No other half ton comes close to a 4.30 rear end!! Its a superior towing gear set but does have a small mileage penalty. The tundra also doesnt have all the gimmicks used by other manufacturers to try and squeeze out another mpg or two. Start stop? JUNK. E torque? JUNK. Cylinder deactivation? JUNK. small displacement turbocharged engines? JUNK. When everyone else keeps adding more and more gears to their transmission and having issues with those transmissions, Toyota has a great thing going with the solid Aisin 6spd. The tundra routinely beats the EPA figures by a mpg or two from my experience where as it's pretty much impossible to hit even EPA numbers for the other trucks choked full of gimmicks. So the real numbers are MUCH closer than magazines and paid journalists would have you believe.
If you want fluff, buy another brand. It will go nicely with your brand new 1,200 cell phone. If you're a man who has a brain, buy a tundra. Done.
I’ve always been a ford guy but that tundra is the last of the tough old school trucks. I think that’s the best real world half ton out there.
Kent Boyko same here, I’m also a ford guy, but now I drive a 2017 TRD 4x4 Tundra and love it👍🏻
Get the new 7.3 from ford. That truck is going to kick ass.
Not really. They are way overrated as far as reliability. It is still an all aluminium DOHC engine, with all the known pitfalls of that design. DI in a V8? No thanks. Other than having 8 cylinders, this engine shares nothing with the old reliable truck engines of the past.
D Ferret One small reason I like the tundra is they still use a steering shaft instead of this electronic steering and our Ford Escapes locked up the other day turned on and off and it works again lol just kind of makes me nervous there is no physical control and all electronic. Also the 2018 5.0 and up have some major issues with oil and coolant disappearing and the big three our so competitive that there trying new things all the time that aren’t necessarily proven where Toyota just finds something that works and leaves it alone until the technology of today is proven 5-10 years down the road and they use it.
D Ferret if I was to buy a truck today it would be that superduty with 7.3 mainly because I can use a heavy duty truck and like the long box but if it was a half ton it would be a tundra.
Tundra 2020: DOA (Dead on Arrival), but live after 15 years
any other 2020 half ton: DOFOWR (Dead on First out of Warranty Repair)
I am still driving my 2007 Tundra. It just won’t die! Super reliable. My next one will be a used 2016 or 2017 with low miles. I won’t pay the high price for new even though I can afford it.
With the great re-sale value on these damn things, a used one a few years old doesn't seem to save you too much money.
You can save almost $15k over one of the TRD pros.
Les Johns ....I was looking for a pickup truck myself, could not justify paying such high prices for any product that depreciates, especially a vehicle.
I found a 2004 Tundra Acces Cab, with the 4.7L engine, 100,000 miles that was taken care of. I put in lower ball joints, outer tie rods, end links, sway bar, sway bar bushings, rack and pinion bushings, front shocks and springs, new muffler. $500 for parts, I did all the work as the first generation tundra was easy to work on. I saved $50,000 and have a good work truck that takes care of all my needs for the home and work.
Definitely an old platform, but that V8 is something special and it will surely outlive an F150 or Ram. Toyota doesn't have the capacity to compete with Ford, Ram or GM. They built the full-size Tundra for the people who want exactly what it is. A no-nonsense, reliable tank.
Probably won't outlive those old 2 valve 4.6's though.
It won’t compete with the big three on anything over 1/2 ton, technology is not a priority when choosing a one ton truck to actually do work, 1/2 ton trucks have to use gimmicks and technology and they are still overpriced.
Guys on here making a fuss over 1/2 ton trucks. Any of these 1/2 ton trucks are good enough for the basic work it’s going to see over its lifetime.
Real truck work is left for the Chevy 3500 Duramax and Allison combination or the F350 Powerstroke.
To me the things brought up here are the most important. Reliability. I couldn't care less for the latest touch me buttons and air conditioned radio knobs.
I want a truck to be a truck.
I bought a 17 ram tradesman new. My biggest complaints are the cartridge style oil filter on top of the engine and a sealed transmission unit. Seriously you're not going to give me a dipstick in a work truck. I don't know why I didn't pay attention to this before I bought it. I've driven dodge/ram trucks for 16 years it was just a go to type thing.
It would be great if you guys included in your new truck reviews, serviceability. Can you replace the U-joints on the drive shaft? Does the transmission have a dipstick? Are the things that commonly need to be serviced such a starters, spark plugs and coils easy to get to? For a lot of us those are still very important factors. The last time my Ram saw a dealership was 78,000 miles ago when I first bought it.I know I'm not alone in that.
Anyway. Always enjoy the new videos. One of the best channels on RUclips.
*couldn't care less
@@motarded4214 indeed. 👍
@Vegas EMT we also have a 2012 Ram 1500 Tradesman with the Hemi. Spin on oil filter at the bottom and a transmission dipstick. For a modern truck is pretty easy to service. Thanks for the info on the tundra
Tundra has a cartridge filter on the bottom, requiring a 64mm filter wrench to remove, after removing the factory skidplate to access (unless you have the TRD plate, RCI plate, or P&P plate that have access doors).
Transmission is not sealed, that's just dealerspeak for 'we don't want to work on it'. The way Aisin does it with the Tundra, there's a fill plug, a pan drain plug, and a check plug that has a straw going up to a certain level. You need to get the transmission fluid to somewhere around 115F (service manual specifies a more exact low and high check temp range) and remove the check plug. Fluid should just trickle with the truck running. Much more accurate way to set the level than a dipstick. For vehicles already warmed up, dealers often have a straw insert kit that can reach to a higher level to compensate for higher temps, with different length straws for different temperatures.
When I've done the trans fluid I've just used the built-in straw and spotted the pan with an infrared temp gun. On a steel pan it's usually almost exactly what the onboard pan temp sensor reads, within 2F tops. Generally takes 10-15 minutes from dead cold fluid to warm up to the check range, but once there don't dawdle, ya gotta get 'er level set within a couple minutes. Easiest to slightly overfill and remove the check plug right at bottom temp, then let drain until it slows to a trickle, keeping an eye on the rising temp to make sure it doesn't go out of range.
I just purchased this truck and it's plenty truck for me. The price, engine, reliability, suspension/ride, exhaust, paint color, spray in bed liner (on mine), black out trim, sunroof, heated seats,
Bed track system. skid plates, wheels...there is nothing I don't like about my new truck.
It's a sweet truck! As far as mpg, F150 takes premium fuel so per gallon divided by mileage, they both come out about the same and if you can't afford the fuel, get a Honda Ridgeline.
I have a 06 with 451,000 and a 2012 with 205,000. The 12 has the 4.6. I work in the oilfield. They’re very reliable. I did have 2008 f150 that I put 342,000 on It. It went thru 3 transmissions then the cam phasers went bad. I’
Don’t care about updates. Some of you guys are like phone users. Every time a new phone comes out you get it.
People that complain about updates are mainly not in the market for a new truck anyway and drive a clapped out 96 Tahoe
Well said
I own the 2016 Tundra TRD Pro. I added ARB air lockers front and rear plus 35” MTs. Now - it’s an outstanding truck.
If you don't mind me asking, whats a ball park price to add the lockers? Just the lockers not the tires. I've got a 2019 and was thinking about doing. Thank you
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When I added ARB lockers: I used the most reputable place I could find on the east coast and that was East Coast Gear Supply in NC. I also opted for the best ARB air compressor and hook ups for an air hose. I use that a lot to air up tires quickly. These are really ball park numbers from memory: lockers cost about $1000 each and everything else was about $1500. So maybe $3500-4000 for my setup. This is from memory. If I was looking to save money I'd just go rear locker with a basic air compressor and look to a local shop. Maybe less than 2k. I know 4 Wheel Parts had them. It does completely change the truck. It totally eliminated the biggest weekness. Good luck!
@@lwonutube Thank you for your reply. Really not as bad as I thought. I live in VA, I might have to look them up. I'd rather not have an inexperienced person doing the job. I plan on keeping this truck forever so it'll definitely be worth the price and the truck is built to last. The truck is perfect otherwise (IMO). Thanks again for the information.
This truck is almost as old as my Frontier...
And both are great trucks
but the frontier is actually a reasonable price for how old it is.
This truck is almost as old as my kid. Who can drink legally.
@@scott8238 that's because it has never changed a bit aside for some DOT mandates
I was a young man when this truck first came out, lol
I bought an SR5 at 70k flat miles. Without knowing any of its history. I am now at 114k miles and still have not been to a shop other than oil changes. There is something magical about turning the key and knowing it is gonna start right up and take you where you need to go. My previous hemi I owned for 2 years has spent a total of 4 months in various shops all over town getting repairs. I got so sick of asking friends for rides to get to work. Never again
Tundras are reliable but they should better stand behind their cam tower oil leak. I think their safety sense should have included blind side monitors (now optional). Id like a mechanical limited slip rear axle again instead of their curreny traction control axle. A '20 SR5 Trd Off Road Double cab MSRP is $47k. I think that is too much $. I think their Limited & Pro are more competitively priced. I've owned 3. Great trucks.
I bought a 3.5 eco boost on your review back in 2015. It went into limp mode over & over! Bought a used 5.7 tundra with 83K miles. It has 115K trouble free miles. The only trucks I'll buy in the future are Tundras. Chevys bled the wallet, powerstrokes bled the wallet, Fords bled the wallet. The gas mileage on my 5.7 is better by 1 MPG than my 3.5 Ecoboost!!
That is interesting, I owned a 2014 3.5L ecoboost and had no problems at all with it, got a consistent 18mpg combined, never really had any trailers to pull but I did haul with it occasionally and drove off-road frequently. Ran it to 100k miles and traded to a 2019 3.5L ecoboost and now I'm getting >21mpg with the same driving. I'll agree on the Chevy's tho, seen too many 4L60's die and plastic parts fail, trans cooler lines blow off....ugh....
What is your mpg by chance?
Nate Young 13 city, 16 hwy
If you sacrifice reliability for bells and whistles that you are never going to use... that's silly.
Whose to say that other people won't use them?
@@Sig721Tau Toyota owners to justify the purchase of an extremely outdated vehicle.
You mean payload over 1200lb? Yeah, I tow with my truck so I use that all the time. It's an outdated turd with an interior from 2006.
I agree on that. I also am always concerned about the more moving parts, the more to go wrong. I do think they need to work on fuel efficiency
Yea who needs a locker when your off road in a "Turd pro"
Toyota is the only brand that is trying to keep their trucks old school. Many people just like me can appreciate that, I can care less about technology on trucks. If technology is so important for some then get yourself a Dodge or a Ford
Roberto Miranda Nissan Frontier is definitely old school as well
I don’t necessarily think Toyota purposely kept their trucks old school. I just think they don’t tend to invest in it like their sedans and small suv. You see, America is very big into Trucks and Full size SUV while other countries are not. Toyota keeps tundras and taco in the lineup to have a market in the US, however they don’t make money from it like their small cars sold world wide. So it’s not that they purposely do it because it’s “so reliable,” it’s marketing strategy.
My biggest problem with the tundra is that they don't offer a crew cab with a 6.5 foot bed. That's a real deal breaker to me
They're not keeping it old on purpose. Its gonna be funny when the new tundra comes out with twin turbo v6 and more gears and a hybrid option. Watch all these same toyota guys switch to the new truck. Suddenly new will be better.
Sergey Melnik that’s the problem. That is the reason why i am not a fanboy of either brand. I simply choose my truck base on what i need and of course reliability. But every brand have got some issues even toyota.
Why do you guys never mention is the adjustable headlight levelers, something the big 3 doesn't offer but Toyota has offered since 07. Nissan has this feature as well. Great for when you're towing and hauling heavy loads and you want the light on the road where it belongs instead of pointed up and blinding oncoming traffic. Nobody mentions this feature on the tundra or titan and that's a pretty good feature to overlook.
If your truck is squatting to the point where your headlights need to be adjusted, you either have your load distributed wrong or a load that is too much for the tow vehicle. When you’re at that point you are putting yourself and others at unnecessary risk due to poor handling characteristics that come with having your truck squatted like that
I had no idea that was a feature Toyota offered until I read your comment! Thanks. I hate how blinding the new trucks are, towing or not towing, their headlights sit far too high for people driving regular sedans that even low beams are blinding enough.
@@jamesheaslip7465 ford f250 squat with even a small load. I had 1500lbs of salt gel in the f250 and the same load in my titan xd and it was distributed evenly in both beds. The nissan just leveled but, the f250 squatted big time. And no I dont think the titan xd can haul more, it just squatted significantly less with the exact same load. Any truck will squat when you put a decent load. I guarantee every truck that is loaded at or near its capacity even correctly squats. Just leveling a truck causes the low beams to blind people.
@@mr.q4994 I love that featurem my titan xd has it also, when I did a 2x1 lift level I clicked my leveler down one notch and everything was back stock. When I had it on 0 people would flash me, when I put it on 1 it was perfect.
@@jamesheaslip7465 I agree it's dangerous but it doesnt take much to squat a truck, and it doesnt take much squat to blind oncoming traffic. Just leveled out a truck will do that. My f350 with less than 2,000lbs in it squatted pretty good to where I had to adjust the headlights not only because it was blinding traffic but the high beams were useless. Once I adjusted them down it was night and day. High beams now light up the road alot better and lows dont blind oncoming traffic. Even unloaded my 17 f250 was blinding traffic. Everyone flashed me. I think ford must have aimed them a little high from the factory.
Day in and day out the Toyota handles rough rock roads and mud. We live in southeast iowa. TRD suspension owns rugged terrain. I upgraded to a my second tundra last year. Bought an old man limited for leather seats. Ask me again in 10 years how outdated the truck is. Awesome trucks!
For me the lack of features that others complain about is what makes this truck great for me. Simple proven and reliable. No need to update anything. And i dont need a belt drive electric motor or a twin vaccum cleaner v6. Id like a simple v8 and its 14mpg. If i want fuel milage ill drive my car. If your over worried about fuel economy while towing or hauling then you probably dont have the money to have anything to tow or haul.
Amen, thank you! Exactly what I wanted to hear, you are all spot on! I agree with everything on what you just wrote.
I am getting close to 17 mpg on mine, my friends ford ranger peace of crap gets 17 too, and it's much smaller!! I would never buy a Ford or Doge or any GMC piece of junk product, I would take a Toyota any day!
@@bettysmith7045 agreed. I drive with a bit of a led foot but i am not concerned about gas milage when driving a pick up. I choose reliability over mpgs... That is if any of the other pick ups are even doing any better on fuel consumption
So strikingly similar to my 2007 Tundra 5.7 4X4.. which still runs like a brand new truck. THAT'S what I really care about. Thanks Toyota.
Simplicity in the engine until you have to pull the intake manifold to replace the starter
How about pulling the engine to change the PS pump?
original starter and PS pump and alternator on my 96' 4runner with 354K.
Bothers me when people say the 5.7L is like a carbon copy of the old 4.7L that actually was reliable.
Wrong, The starter is actually on thee passenger side it's not in the intake manifold The first gen Tundra is yes The second to onward, no.
@@SuperCJification most reliable of all of the trucks.
Why change something if it works great
You hang on to same iPhone or Android phone until it's completely dead?
The rhetoric makes sense but the modern pick-up truck market shows that sales dominance is going to the biggest innovators. Toyota is going to change things that are great, just on their own timetable. It does keep their vehicles more reliable rather than trying to match the competition for business- and competition-sake. Sort of the "slow and steady wins the race." We see Nissan employing the same thing in the truck market.
@khronosfateless well atleast make it have better fuel economy? the tundra mpg avg in the city is 9-10mpg
Joshua Long because sales suck
@khronosfateless It's not just gadgetry, reliability aside the big 3 half-ton trucks have the Tundra beat in every other way possible.
I'll stick to my GMC that makes about 16-17 MPG with a 6.2L V8.
Necrotic Reaper if the transmission didn’t crap out in my gmc I’d still be driving it too
You know as master mechanic I have never seen a tundra blow a headgasket or grind a camshaft flat or replace multiple transmissions in the same truck. But i have seen plenty of the competitors have those concerns.
@@wilmarbarrick3194 depends on the trim. Obviously a trd pro with soft suspension is not designed for heavy hauling or towing. Max payload is 1700 and towing 10,400 on regular 5.7 double cab. There are some people who tow way above that and claim no problem but its all on them. At the end of the day its a half ton.
Toyota only sells a couple of percent of the Big 3 in sales. Most trucks won't wear out driving empty to the grocery store.
@@wilmarbarrick3194 Or they arent designed like total garbage and are actually good trucks.
@@normt5463 most people that buy a Tundra arent getting another one when the warranty expires though so that is part of the reason they dont sell as many compared to a Ram Ford or Chevy.
Neither are most 1 tons on the road. 80% of truck owners seem to haul little more than a 1500lb side by side. Trucks have become lifestyle vehicles.
I had a 2013 tundra that I traded in on my 2020. I rolled down the rear window once in 7 years just to see if it worked. It did.
2010 4x4 CM Here with over 110,000 miles. 1 water pump, battery, front pads only. Couldn’t be happier
On stock tires I get 17 miles per gallon on my 1794 tundra all day long with good gasoline. I also have a Ford F150 and a Chevy Silverado and they don’t get any better mileage they get the same between 15 and 17 miles per gallon so they can say anything they want on the sticker but in real world driving the mileage is no better. TFL did the same test on a video about a year ago and got the same results so I don’t see how they can complain on their videos about the gas mileage.
The ecoboost does get a *few* MPG's better.
Dont lie. My 3.5 is constantly getting 19 to 20 with all type of driving even traffic.
Oh come on. I have a 2019 f-150 2.7 12000 miles and mileage since day 1 is 21.7 that includes warming up every morning at least once and I live in the northern white mountains
Had a Camry with over 300,000 miles that was a champ. A Tacoma that was bullet proof and at 70,000 miles toyota purchased back over what I wanted for it to help me get a new tundra. 2014 Tundra lifted on 35's. Never had to see the shop once so far. As for maintenance costs just oil changes and this winter changed original battery for new one. Love my toyota tundra.
The shape of the floor under the rear seat is the way it is because of the massive 38 gallon fuel tank. I was surprised they didn't mention that.
It was like that prior to 2016 and the 38 gallon tank. It's the driveline bump to get the driveshaft/transmission higher up for ground clearance.
@@belanger9 Ya, seems odd because Ford doesn't have a floor hump for their 36gal fuel tank. Can't imagine why they would have had to raise the whole back 2' of the rear of the cab that much for 2 extra gallons and couldn't fit it elsewhere.
I looked at my 38 gallon tank on a '19 Limited. It's about 5 feet long.
Actually it's filled with a big block of foam to absorb noise. On the shorter doublecab instead of the foam it's a nice storage cubby. Some folks buy aftermarket storage for back there that have you cut a big portion of the foam out before putting it in. The only real noticeable difference between the 26 gal and 38 gal tanks is the gap from the front of the tank to the midpipe. With the 26 gal tank it has near 2 feet of void between the two.
I have a 2006 Toy Tundra...........best truck I have ever owned. Last one was a T-100 6 cyl 4wd. Sold it at 265,000 miles for $1,000 more than I paid for it 5 years earlier. It got 20MPH, didn't burn any oil.
My current 2006 looks like the day it came of the showroom. 4wd gets 20mph on the hwy. I have people come to my door trying to buy it.........two in the last monthe, before that a Ford Dealer salesman tried to buy it while I was at the gas station............he knows a good truck. Fourteen years old, looks and drives like new........how many 2006 Ford, Chevy, Dodge trucks are on the road? If they are............they're leaving a rust trail going down the street.
Sure, old design but why change what works?
My 06 Tundra with 84k miles just works, and it is paid for. I won't have a car payment for 20 years.
LowKey ID my 2011 crew has 187k sofar have had nothing go wrong.
LowKey ID my 06 just hit 200k and runs great. Just keep the timing belt replaced, fresh fluids, the occasional U-joints, and it will keep going forever.
Dated, definitely, but I had a 2007 and now at 2017. I like many of the subtle improvements they have made. The huge gas tank, blind spot monitoring, built in trailer gain, and under rear seat storage compartment. They did cut a few corners too. They removed one glove box, some door compartments, and the overhead console. I miss the overhead console. I love the truck and I bought it for 37k with TRD exhaust, running boards, and custom wheels/tires. It only had 27k on the clock. I'l drive it for 5 years and it will be easy on the wallet in regards to trade in.
If only toyota did the rear sliding window for the tacoma :(
gogeta1001000 Tacoma already has power sliding rear window
Elton Pham i think he means the whole rear-view window rolling down
Just get a 4Runner then... Same motor as a Taco
I though some of them has it?
Chriz Sea. lmao no the 4runner has a bigger V6 with more torque
I haven’t had any inter cooler or cylinder deactivation issues on my Sequoia yet. Looking forward to 250k this year when I might have to change some spark plugs or something.
Who needs so many cameras? All of these little add-ons are unnecessary and only grant the driver the ability and comfort of being even more careless.
But why... if we have the technology, surely there's a way to make V8s gas efficient. We sent people to the moon. We MADE V8s. Come on, surely there's a way.
They didn't really go to the moon thats why they can't make the m more efficient. 😉
The biggest possible technological leap forward in internal combustion engines right now is the opposed piston diesels. Look them up, really cool how they work. Amazing efficiency. Ford has a working prototype in an F150
That is a horrible comparison, especially you don't know the trajectory, speed, time, or the amount of fuel those Rocketdynes F1 rocket booster suck.
There is, but at the expense of more moving parts and carbon deposits. Walnut shelling isn’t really isn’t as fun as it sounds.
The 5.0L 10 speed F150 is actually a hell of a combo and gets the same fuel economy as a Tacoma 4cyl. The tech is in American Trucks 😭
It is always said the Tundra is outdated compared to competitors because it doesn't have power this, 360 degree cameras that, trailer reverse system so, photonic proton torpedo cruise control, 8k ipad pro touchscreen display, 5g wifi, 10+ usb c ports and 12 cupholders, but what is never said is that those are 70-75k trucks whilst a fully loaded Tundra 1794/Platinum/Trd Pro is only about $55k.
Jack dN You are 100% correct I only paid 50g out the door and my 1794 will last me at least 20 years I doubt the other trucks will go 10 years without major problems.
not sure where you get 70k-75k from? Chevy 1500 SLT/F150 Lariat/Ram Rebel has pretty most of that for like 60k with discounts and everything should come down to 50k.
For that I could upgrade my Colorado Z71 Duramax to a ZR2 Duramax.
Platinum f150 is 55k... and the tundra is outdated.
I wanted so much to like the Tundra when shopping but just couldn't do it. With incentives and lower interest rate my Ram Rebel is costing me way less. The dealership wouldn't budge on price.
Love the truck but in Canada a 2020 cost $70,000 Cad. Why do we get ripped off so bad in Canada?
Look at your leader my guy. All leaders are puppets though. The ones who aren't, they kill.
....somebody has to pay for socialized medicine....
I don’t understand why it doesn’t have a rear locker....
Pike Man because it’s not actually an off road truck.
Not necessary.
I love my tundra but you're right. No excuse to have a locker in the Trd pro
TouchéPadre the Tacoma has a rear locker on the trd pro. The f150 has an optional locker on many trim levels. I’m not following your logic.
Mr M why is it necessary on the Tacoma trd pro?
8:17 is that rust on bottom lip of the tailgate?
No.
Reliability IS NEVER OUTDATED!!!
Yep👍
Reliability isn’t the only thing that matters
Nathan said it best - ‘who cares about crawl control?’ Nobody. (Any auto-manufacturers out there listening?)
If you’re buying a full size pickup for mpg, you’re special.
I bought a new 2019 Tundra and at 6100 km I hit a big mule deer at 122 kilometres per hour. It took out the grill and radiator but headlights and hood were left intact. The truck took the hit like a beast. Very solid and safe truck.
If you keep your truck 8-10 years then it's hard to beat the tundra, more tech isn't always better....if you only keep them 3-4 years then it doesn't matter
Son just bought 2021. My bet is this time next year will be at higher value than purchased. Why? Because 2022 will not be as nice overall. People will want the million mile platform in the latest year possible with the big V8 and that sound. If you can afford this, you don’t care about mileage. Geesh. Love it.
I love the Tundra Powertrain. However, it is let down by an outdated platform and a frame that isn’t fully boxed - the frame flex is disconcerting.
The frame flex is what improves the ride quality. If it was a fully boxed frame it would ride like an F-150.
Roman kept complaining about features it's missing, and I'm over here just thinking to myself "Look at all of the stuff that isn't there to break"
Lag is Free - I have yet to see a USB port break...just saying.
Roman likes the yuppie trucks. Fully loaded with a bunch of tech that will fail. If your rich, who cares, just get a new one but, is blue collar guys who need trucks to last them because of other life things that have to be taken care of, longevity and price are most important. Not how big the screen is on the dash! Lol
@@Tusuperbis get a better job?
@@kidamere2408 get a better personality! Lol
@@Tusuperbis damn son burnnnn
A part time 4WD transfer case would be big time for this truck! Snow and ice is nice to have the AWD option vs. 4WD locked in
Cool to see push button start. Funny fact in my 2015 Tundra if you just slightly blip the key and let go the truck will continue to crank until it starts. The "Push Button" start has been there all along. You just turn a key but you're not really turning the key
Dads Domain True story
Love the reliability and the green color. Hate the way these look (both inside and out)..
It's time to make a new, better-looking Tundra, Toyota..
That's you personally I love how it looks
Exterior looks fine
@@18Darkside I hate the front end. Giant grille, with Scoop-Central to top it off. Yuck.
The Tacoma looks better up front..
I feel that a lack of all the “new” features and electrical components are part of the reason why it lasts so long. On top of the fact they keep improving on the same platform. When you completely redesign every 3-4 years you get a lot of problems. Ford, GM, and Ram cannot sit at the same table as this truck when it comes to reliability. Not to mention when you drive them the tundra for sure feels the sturdiest and beefiest
Love the tundra. Toyota doesn’t give a shit about what the other manufacturers are doing! They keep making the same good ol truck that works and isn’t overloaded with useless ridiculous technology like 10 camera views and trailer backup assist. Keep rockin on toyota
great review guys. Love my tundra - not a rattle, creak or issue in 90k miles. If you can't drive without front camera you shouldn't be driving a truck. I also don't pass 100 of them a day like my old 150.
Too bad the crash ratings are awful on this truck.
Don’t crash.
This is a secret nobody knows... Toyota’s crash ratings are terrible and it’s designed to be that way. That way there will be less Rebuilt Vehicles on the road and more total losses.
Randal almost all the new trucks
Get totaled so what you mean is more Toyota owners are severely hurt
it has poor crash ratings because the platform is really old, no matter how you refresh it. It is built with 2007 safety ratings in mind, and as the safety rating difficulty and fields increases, it scores poorer and poorer. Just look at dodge grand caravan for example. This is one way the NHTSA pushes the automakers to make newer and better vehicles, by using this negative reinforcement method.
When it came out it had the best, but carmakers are constantly improving, and this is an old design. Just look up the first gen tundra vs the f150 of that same year, or any of the other big3 for that matter. The tundra was the only truck that the structure didnt fail. The ford and dodge buckled badly, the chevy bucked a little, the tundra was still able to open the doors. When the new tundra comes out it will no doubt be class leading, and when the others come out they'll do better. It's a cycle, and right now the tundra is the oldest but still surprisingly competitive. Some of its standard safety features aren't even available on other trucks.
We really enjoyed testing this TRD Pro in the sand dunes a few weeks after you guys had it. Like you guys said, it's old but still very relevant!
That rear window reminds me of my Bronco, love that feature
Fun review! I just got a new '19 1794. Loaded (obviously, it's a 1794) + spray-in bedliner w/ that mat on top + TRD Pro exhaust + 2 years of free maintenance - all for $49k OUT THE DOOR! That is a lot of truck for the money. I added a leveling kit (+2" front end) and some some meaty M/T tires on rims similar to these TRD PRO wheels. I'm still at least $15k less than a comparable Ford, Chevy, or RAM. My buddy just paid $71k (he got them down from $74k) for a new RAM.
Fuel mileage is horrible, but I work from home and only drive a little around town. I won't be towing much, or hauling much. I mainly wanted a truck for things like, tossing our bikes in the back, getting lumber, messy things like our boat cover, grill, you get the drill. In fact, I just filled the bed with a hand truck, and a bunch of mulch.
I really wanted a V8. Interior? I find the 1794 to be beautiful. Great leather. The truck is simple, but geez, what has happened to us? I've got lane departure warning, adaptive cruise control, front warning sensors, backup camera, a sunroof, responsive touch screen. I mean, do we really need all the gadgets that cost a fortune to add to a TRUCK?
I'll probably eat my words when the 2022s are announced that have all the added gadgets - but one thing is for sure - Toyota will execute them well and they will be reliable.
I'll be driving my 'old' 2019 with its rumbling, reliable V8 for many years.
What are the other trucks geared for in their rear ends? The tundra is geared to pull. The others are geared for fuel economy.
3.55-3.73 gearing is the norm for most trucks. Anything 4.10 on up, you're sacrificing driveability and fuel economy.
Is that why it has the lowest tow ratings
If they sold that in Fiji I’d buy it in a heartbeat. Drove a friend’s in Las Vegas that was pretty awesome. Great review as always.
Solid unbiased review as always. While the truck has aged, it has aged well and is still very capable and reliable and still looks, sounds and feels awesome. While I look forward to the next generation I hope they don’t replace the power plant like they did with the current generation Hilux, by opting for a smaller 2.8L Diesel instead of a 3.0L Diesel or a 4.0L Supercharged V6 Petrol engine. I wish they sold these full size trucks in Fiji. I got the chance to drive one of these bad boys in the States last year in Vegas and have driven a Sequoia as well with the same V8 power plant, great rides the both of them. Having said that after being a lifelong Toyota fan and previous owner of the LN166 2.8L Diesel Hilux and D4D 3.0L Diesel Hilux I made the switch to the 3.0L V6 Diesel Volkswagen Amarok which is a far superior truck comfort wise, fuel efficiency wise, power performance wise and overall build wise. You guys would love to drive one of these mid size bad boy trucks if they were sold in the US. Thanks again for the review, huge fan of you guys work.
The plastic bumper on the Tundra needs more criticism, especially at $54k.
When Nathan closed the rear window I expected to see Andre's head rolling down the flatbed
I began to cringe as well, expecting the same.
Imma be honest.. the 2020 Tundra is probably my favorite truck. It has just enough features and it’s not gimmicky with random bs. The V8 is the best part and no one gets a V8 for the gas mileage.
Throw bigger meatier tires on this and watch that MPG hit 2. Good thing the fuel tank is massive.
Not on these. Meatier tires and 500 lbs of extra weight in the back doesn't budge the mpg's even 1 mpg down. It's turbo sixes that suffer when you do that.
@@Irven51 I've seen a number of "modern V8's" with the displacement-on-demand systems see significant hits to their MPG when loaded too. Maybe something like this that is all-V8-all-the-time won't care I guess, which is why it just has crap MPG all the time.
Yeah, 2022 and I'm getting this old V8 tundra instead of the new one. I'm gonna put lockers on it (both front and rear), I'm gonna lift it, put a nice set of BFG KO2 All terrains, a very nice Audio system, big screen, off road steel bumpers and make it last forever. Maybe even some other off road/overlanding goodies. This is gonna be my apocalypse sugout truck and it is gonna out live me.
My 03 Ford Explorer sport trac has rear window that slide down
The big difference between Ford, Chevy, and Ram to the Toyota Tundra is that the other three all have (newer designs) and all three have Engine and Transmission problems... The Tundra doesn't. Ford, Chevy, and Ram cover the repairs under their warranties but if you don't like spending multiple Saturdays in a dealership waiting on a repair, buy a Toyota.
Tell that to all the Tacoma owners whose frames rusted in half 😂
@@user-pt6io2cq9n That was in the'90s. Is this the only thing that you've got?
@@theylied1776 The 90's? There's a class action lawsuit pending right now for 2005-2011 4Runner frames rusting out. As for Tacoma frame rust issues still plaguing Toyota, read this www.tacomaworld.com/threads/toyota-frame-recall.560154/
@@user-pt6io2cq9n It can take ten or 15 years for a class-action lawsuit. So again, that happened in the '90s. Is this the best that you can do?
@@user-pt6io2cq9n But please post a link to the class action lawsuit.
It's kinda like the Nissan Frontier. It's just a good honest truck. Can't beat that.
Just because it has less HP doesn't mean much. Tundra's have 4:30 gear ratios, which is a major contributing factor everyone should be aware of when shopping for a truck.
i was thinking this while watching!
So that’s why it’s a fuel hog
FishFind3000 Definitely a major factor. I like the fact that the truck is rated for 13 city and I actually get that. I’ve always gotten 8 mpg out of my former 310 hp 5.4 triton engines before I made the switch to Toyota. I’m just surprised they haven’t switched to the 8 speed with the 4:30 ratio. Would make more sense in my head, but I’m not an engineer. The 6 speed already has to shift enough with the 4:30 ratio in my opinion.
@@MarkNehemiah I had a 5.4 and got 14mpg
FishFind3000 to be fair both of mine were in F250 trucks.
There’s no arguing Toyota’s reliability
Tell that to all the Tacoma owners whose frames rusted so badly the trucks often snapped in half.
Just went past 115,000 on my third Tundra. It doesn't have all the "toys" to play with when you're supposed to be DRIVING. That's why I love it. I pull a 16' trailer loaded with metal from Mexico quite often and the little hills that this beast comes to will make you smile. Most times the transmission won't even downshift , it just pulls it, lotsa torque. My first Tundra lost a fuel pump at 45K. Toyota replaced it and all I've done with the trucks since then is drive the hell out of it. It's always ready to go. It'll be my "Go To" truck - unless they decide to "pretty it up". Oh, I love the look on the faces of those guys in the "RAM" when I pass them with a trailer loaded with metal, way out there in the "Wildhorse Desert" of South Texas.
I really don't need the fuel efficiency and electric gadgets but I do need the xtra 15 grand I save buying a Tundra. #learntobackup
If you watch until the end the truck is actually $54,000. When they started the review off and it was in the 30s, it seemed OK.
@@ryanrichardson1169 but what they don't tell you is you can buy a four wheel drive Toyota Tundra V8 for starting at 38 Grand. You can also get a Dodge four-wheel drive but it'll start at 39k and its a V6...
I don't need the gadgets but you have to admit they are fuel pigs . Other than poor fuel economy there is nothing about the Tundra I do not like .
@@backlash660 yes, I'll admit they do guzzle gas but rock solid reliability is worth more than 4-5 mpg.
They need more engine options on both their trucks. Ford nailed their engine options imo over their competition. Id still buy a f 150 over a tundra
As tested $54k? You cannot get the army green for that. No way. Full msrp is almost $58k. Dealers are tacking on $3k premium on top of that.
And it still sells immediately the minute it hits the dealer lot.
I paid more for this 2020 army green trd pro than my previous 2017 1794.
Lots of new cool addition to the new model.
Push button start
Keyless entry
Intelligent cruise control
No more antenna (fin antenna on roof)
Bull all that money and the tail gate isn’t even a power lock
And it comes with ridiculous 18” baby tires.
Cmon Toyota.
Comparing any Toyota to any Ram is a non-starter ... you can have all the goodies in the world and it doesn't amount to a hill of beans if the truck is not reliable.
Mike Wright agreed. Toyota needs to do something about their reliability
A F150 or Ram 1500 with all that fancy tech cost $70k, a fully loaded Tundra is about $55k.
I love my 2019 TRD pro it’s a dream to drive, now 9 months of ownership and 15K miles so far
Would love it if Ford Trucks had that rear window. 4:56
You'd love it even more if Ford trucks would last half as long as that Tundra.
But you don’t know what yr of Toyota turd you are looking at, could be 12 yrs old ar a new one
they did, was called the Bronco
@@paulhunter9613 🥂
That back window is the shit for tossn empties!!!
The Tundra TRD Pro will still be the truck I buy late next year. Coupled with a black series trailer HQ15 it will be the perfect platform for me. I just want to be able to get off the beaten path for some nice secluded boon docking. The TRD Pro will be perfect for that. Once I pick up my Rn I want to be a travel nurse working and seeing our beautiful country (red states only) lol I need to get out of California. The Tundra will get me there. My sis has owned 2 sequoias. I love driving her trucks because it’s so quick and so much nicer than my ford. Granted my expedition is a 2003 Eddie Bauer her truck even when they were new still walked my truck like it was standing still. I look forward to that army green! Brilliant video gents.
Any pickup would do just as well as a Tundra for what you have in mind...some would do better...
If you're planning on towing I wouldn't get the TRD Pro. They squat badly with a load. TRD Offroad is what you want for towing. You'll want to get a 2018 or earlier as well, for 2019+ models the air to oil transmission cooler went MIA.
Green Soup yeah I plan on getting the tundra, I fell in love with it.
ɹǝɔʞๅǝss ɐqɐupou I’ve seen the sag but it will be something I deal with. The trailer isn’t too heavy and I want a new vehicle especially the army green. 🤤🤤
The Tundra has one of the best resale values of any vehicle.
Yep, I ended up buying a new one cause I would only be saving like $3k on a used one, then I got free oil changes for 2 years and a warranty as well as a better finance rate that made up the difference
Except jeep
Jeep? Nothing made by Chrysler/Fiat has good resale value.
@@binyamj Pardon me, but I think David is right. The Jeep Wrangler has impressive resale value. I think they have a very devout following.
@@davidschreiber1823 I wonder what that fact states about the "Tundra's resale value must mean it is a reliable vehicle" lol
I have the 2020 TRD Pro and I have a 38 Gallon take that it says gets about 575-600 miles a tank. I am getting about 13mpg as I live in city with bad traffic. Its amazing man and the ride is even better than my 2016 was. Feels like I am gliding on air. I am not kidding it rides amazing. Oh and for yall that have kids when rolling the window up is have sensors that if it detects a object(hand) its rolls back down.
Beautiful colour. V8! Come on guys! Who cares mpg is a Toyota! And the cameras that is why have eyes 👀
I’m glad you brought up the reliability. Yes it’s outdated and mileage is less than the rest. My buddy bought his new 2019 Chevy. Nice truck but it already been to the shop twice! Minor issues but it still come on. He’s a die hard Chevy guy and couldn’t buy a tundra because of the mileage. His old 2006 Chevy had 2 engines and a new transmission besides being a complete rust bucket. So he spent around 4 grand to get a bumper to bumper warranty on his 2019. Yea that will buy a lot of gas. We went out west this year on a hunting trip he averaged Between 1-2 mpg better. Not a huge difference. Sorry but my 2007 tundra is twice the truck of my friends Chevy, ford and dodges when it comes to reliability. If you’re going to get a new truck every couple years there’s better options. If ya want long term ya better get a tundra.
I leased a 2019 TRD because of the great leasing price they had on them So far I have been very impressed with the truck. The power has been great and I love love the 38 gallon tank on it. When I think about the truck being a 07 design I personally am impressed that Toyota was that far ahead of the completion and in general people didn’t realize it
The cab for as large as it is and yes it is very roomy still has no storage A flat floor isn’t a problem for me but no storage under the seat has been If I set the cruise at 62 and don’t have to start stop I can get 19-20 and better with a wind pushing but other then that it’s like any truck I’ve had and I get 13-16 but it’s not sluggish this truck goes and the tow haul makes it a race car I am excited to see what they design for the new one and I hope they keep the rear window also along with the 38 gallon tank
I bought a 2018 SR5 double cab for 36k out the door. Heckuva a deal! It has everything I wanted and nothing I didn't! owned it over 18 months now and only has 2800 miles. Plan on still driving it in 20 years, like my last TOYOTA which I still own and drive lol....dodge, chevy, and ford buyers are suckers
That green with the TRD accents really pops, great truck!
Love my 08 Tundra. 150k with no issues. The truck is tight. My neighbor has a 2010 Silverado with 135k. Just spent $5k cleaning up all the rust and sounds like things are falling off when driving.