This Lens is Legendary
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
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In this video I take a look at a the Carl Zeiss Jena 35mm F/2.8, the LEGEND that helped start it all.
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0:00 - The FLEK Intro
0:27 - CZJ Specs/Versions
1:50 - Exacta Mount Aperture Lock
2:22 - Flektogon History Vintage Lens Files
3:57 - Photo/Video Samples
Flexing the "Flek" GO!
This lens was recalculated using the first computer in the GDR, the Oprema relay computer.
Oprema had a redundant architecture. It went so reliably, that it was decided to split it in 2 computers, to develop more of that cool Jena stuff. I love such stories.
I have the later 35mm f2.4 version which I believe has better coatings giving improved contrast over the older f2.8 version. I love this lens - definitely one of my favourites among my ever-growing vintage lens collection. BTW you were one of the people who inspired me to acquire this vintage lens addiction! :-)
I'm both sorry and happy that i'm not alone in this, but sorry for being the cause of it! lol
i wanted to write the same ;-) (I have 2 Flektogons 2.4 35mm.)
My flek 35mm f2.4 has truly wonderful colour and very nice rendering, producing arguably equal best looking jpegs with no post adj, from Sony A7R3, & that's better IMO than my Loxia too.
The 35/2.4 is optically unrelated to the 35/2.8: the 2.8 is a classic first-generation inverted telephoto, with a large negative element in front of what is ostensibly a complete, functional lens, significantly miniaturized. The 2.4 is a markedly modern design done with a clean sheet where a more integrated approach was taken.
@@Seele2015au which do you think is more suited for digital camera adaptation?
Love all of your videos about Zeiss!
Loved the mention of the Mir-1V, the Flektogon also inspired the Mir-24 35mm f2.0 as well (the Mir being a 6/6 optical design), which is one of my favourite lenses!
Great video Mark!! I have my m42 flek 25mm f4 great lens indeed!
Looking forward to this
This is a lens with character for sure. It retains that 70's movies look, but it requires a lot of attention from the cameraman to get satisfying results. Nice job Mark!
Def that 70's look, might be fun for some street photography
Thank You for sharing and greetings from Belgium. I have the KZJ Flek 20mm and 35mm = > It's my every day lenses (withe XT-5). Absolutely fantastic and versatile.
I have the f/2.4 black version, love it!
yes, that lens is definitely this ones successor!
well done. I like the new background.
Mark, you do the best quality videos. Watching them is so fun! Thanks 🙏
I had this zebra version but finally I changed for the f2.4. Very similar both but the newest with better colour rendition and a little bit faster…
Ya that copy is amazing, everybody talks about the 2.4.
Pretty sure I consistently drop everything and forsake all others for Vintage Lens Files. Never disappoints.
Might have to make my choices in what videos to do based on the history of the lens I think .
Loving the footage from that lens in color and BW. Looks pretty awesome. That close focus distance is also pretty cool too.
Ya it’s a bit of a sleeper agent. It looks totally retro too, reminds you that…hey I’m an old ass lens. 😆
I have the zebra version (ser. 9350636). You’re spot on about the contrast and colours - my Flektogon 35/2.4 is a lot punchier. Like its later iteration, it’s in m42 mount. I also own the Carl Zeiss Distagon 35/2.8 and it’s a colour beast. Thanks for the Exacta mount tip - I have a Pancolar 50/2 and Sonnar 135/4 in that mount and my workaround was to depress the button to stop it down to my selected aperture while pressing the shutter button. Fiddly. Now I can turn the wheel and dispense with the juggling. I had no idea so I really appreciate it. 😊 As ever, thanks for the enjoyable and informative video.
I’ve had one for ages when I started using Spotmatics and SVs and found that I could try out lenses of all sorts of focal lengths for pennies. At that stage M42 camera bodies and lenses were ignored and unloved and beautiful equipment was being practically given away. The Flektogons were cheap and cheerful and astonishingly good. I had great Takumar glass and dabbled with Yashinons and Sekors. £10 and £15 lenses turned in stellar performances. Just be fastidious about hoods and filter quality and the lenses kept giving. The pictorial qualities of the Aus Jena Carl Zeiss lenses are worthwhile. I like lenses that have fantastic tonality and have that 3D plasticity. CZJ and Takumar are great in their rendering. Tessars, Sonnars, Pancolars, Flektogons, good glass for pennies. Wonderful results!
Thanks for the explanation on the aperture button. A design concept that Rube Goldberg would be proud of!
Perfectly engineered
Mine does not have the aperture lock, I think it's missing, and I thought it was from 1982, since the serial number starts with 82... I agree it is a great lens, one of my favourite in my (small) vintage lens collection! Thank you, I love your channel!
Yesss at last 😻😻😻
Thankz Mark! I've one of this legend
Absolutely
Love my Flektogons. Those Carl Zeiss Jena lenses really produce great photos. That close focus is just great. Surprisingly, as you focus closer it also adjusts the aperture to compensate for the increased exposure. I am not sure any other camera lens does that. I presently have the Exakta Zebra and semi auto aluminum finish versions. I also had a mint M42 Zebra but traded it last year for nice Busch Pressman Model 4x5 camera. I never used the M42 version and I really wanted to get into 4x5. Possibly, the camera store got the better of deal, but I only paid $40 for the lens "back in day" when people looked down their noses at Carl Zeiss Jena lenses. "Fake Zeiss lenses," they would sneer. I am an Exakta shooter anyway and I am thrilled with my Busch Pressman,. So everyone walked away happy. Another great lens is the Schneider Curtagon 35mm. I have one in Exakta Real mount and a regular Exakta mount with the attached light meter. Now that is cool.
TY for the vid. Another 35mm lens people may want to look into is the Topcor 35mm f2.8. I have it in Exacta mount and its minimum focus distance is almost as short. It really makes a difference.
Thanks for the tip!!!
Awesome informative and entertaining...
balance! and under 8 mins so you guys don't get hit with those double fricken adverts.
Mark, my favorite part is 2:22 - 3:57 !!! The history behind these lenses is definitely one of the reasons why many vintage lens users are drawn to using them in today's world!
Definitely mate, Vintage Lens FILES, might my fav part about these videos lol.
Great review! I use my exakta mount 1963 black version of Flektogon 2.8/35 and I have in my tiny collection "silver" one M42 mount also - unfortunately, demaged by haze on rear element. In my tiny collection also is, new to me, black Flektogon 4/20 M42 mount in beautiful condition.
I’d love to see some
Earlier versions to compare. One day :)
Love Zeiss Jena. We actually have the first Zeiss Jena set whitepoint optics rehoused. Although it's the MC versions. The 35 is definitely one of the gems in that set.
White Point does fantastic work! I didn't know they did Jena's.
@@MarkHoltze they sure do, not long now before Ironglass will do them as well. There mk 2 housing looks promising.
My favourite lens design of all time! I use a 1966 MIR-1. I think that year was a golden period for that model, cause the earlier and later ones I've tried both had worse image characteristics. I could trash all my other lenses and shoot happily on that one to the end of my days.
great.....now you've got me looking. THANKS Julian lol
Wow the image on this lens looks great 🤯
Takes some patience, it's definitely not a setup and GO, but it's been awhile since I've shot anything on the Sony and it's very compact design vs the S1H and Komodo made it a joy to play with. The offset of that is carrying around the magic carpet slider, but that thing is worth it's weight in gold lol.
Hope you're doing well mate, thanks for stopping by.
Thanks for sharing
Pleasure, thanks for watching.
Love this!
Giddiup!
You are the only one describing how to use this lens in its Exakta version and I have subscribed to your channel right a way! Now, with the mirrorless cameras it does work this way when you push and turn that release button... But, with a DSLR it doesn't because you can simply not focus if doing that while the lens is stopped down, it's to dark! So, first focus with f2.8 and then press and turn and know what you are doing exposure wise. And, if there is not enough contrast or saturation, you can always create a separate picture control ( Nikon shooter speaking ) for that very lens👍🤩 Keep up the good work
I have a 1956 Exakta Varex and 7 lenses for it, including this 35mm 2.8 Flek. That “aperture lock” is also a shutter button extender as the old Exakta SLRs had the shutter on the left side front of the camera near the lens mount. They are total left-handler cameras: the film also loads from right to left. On my copy of the Flek there is a sliding lever at the bottom that holds the aperture wide open until the shutter is pressed, at which point it automatically stops down to whatever aperture is selected on the lens. This allows for easier focusing when mounted on an Exakta body. Of course this is bypassed when mounting it on modern cameras via an adapter, which is why the aperture appears to lock with that button.
Brilliant!! Thanks for the added info Lyndon!! ✊
Great lens! Love the history lesson! If you don't have one already, I would recommend getting a macro focusing helicoid adapter. It turns every lens into a macro lens, and you can also use it to focus lenses that have broken or frozen helicoids.
i probably should try those out! Thanks Jim!
That shot at 5:22 is beautiful! Very cinematic.
Thanks Evan !
Great video 👏
Thanks Vladimir!!
Finally, a nice review about the Flektogon from someone with a pedigree (and Vintage Lenses For Video)👏👏👏 I have a set of 20, 35, 50 & 80mm although the newer, faster versions and a 50&20 Zebras. I use them for stills and video as well. Generally, these sit on my GH5 and occasionally go on the original BMPCC and the 6K. Since I have this set, I basically stopped getting other vintage glass. I feel that these affordable lenses give me plenty of vintage character but also good enough sharpness that can occasionally shine in paid works too. Sure, the Contax, Leica, etc... lenses are more popular for a reason but they come at a very high price that sort of kills the charm of getting vintage glass.
Totally depends what you use them for and what inspires. Leica for me because the 50 and 90 I have are made 100km’s from where I am. Want to go back to the factory for when I do those videos. Contax I’ve always loved but couldn’t justify until I was sold on using these old lenses. Now it’s just preference, my Takumars are fine, a few workarounds to get matching colour but still.
Love my little Mir-1
Me TOO!!!! Mine's re-housed now though, but the guts are still there ::)
Hey Mark, whenever I think the video is pretty good, you still manage to improve - great job! Loved the video as always.
I actually have the first version, which I really appreciate for its build quality and haptics.
From what I see in your video, the picture quality is similar.
Shooting towards the sun gives a bit of haze due to stray light and (blue) flares that do not always fit the image.
18mm minimal focus distance sounds nice but i think i can resist this time ;-)
You can't replace a V1 ;)
Hello, what a great video bro, what can you tell me about the flektogon 35 f2.4? offers better quality right? or about the distagon 35mm f2.8? I'm confused with so many zeiss, thanks for the content
I really found my dad's Exakta camera. I've just started playing with it. It's very counterintuitive. What I was thrilled to find was his lens: Zeiss Jena 35mm, Steinheil Munchen 50mm and 135mm. I'm really excited about the Jena 35mm. I really want to use them on my Canon R5C. Looking into adapters now. Hopefully I can find a decent one! 😃
Nice find mate! The R5C will be a good companion for it! ✊
Nice! :)
Mark your Pentex inspiration has caused a collection to bloom in my house I want to thank you for that. Do you think that you could complete a lens series review for the entire Jenna range? I would love you for that more than I already love your videos. Thanks man
Hi Jeremy thanks! I won’t be collecting the full range, I do have the 135 but the aperture is stuck open so I can’t really review it.
for me, the color looks pretty ok, kinda old school touch and retro
definitely, although depending what camera you're using/image settings or colour post production the colours can vary quite a lot.
I highly recommend the Super Multi Coated Takumar 35mm f3.5 which also has a similar Angenieux retrofocus design. Excellent color rendering and contrast.
I've reviewed and still use the 35 F/2 and yes, the retro focus design is in loads of wide angle lenses.
I use 35 f2.4 and i love It!!! Try It!
You’re not the first, must be a good lens!
thsnks for video, great job. I have one of this but it looks diferent : Flektogon 35mm f2.8 ausJENA can u tell somethin about that version?
Stellar images prove lens still a winner. “Shoe Tree” and “Rope” tops, IMO. Nice bit of trivia; “Dist” in Distagon was “Distance”. Who knew? Is “Tam” in “Tamron” a hat😁?
RIght: All those things you learn using a lens, so cool! Ya SHOE Tree, on the way to the cottage, i've wanted to photograph it forever.
Love the colors very 80's feel to it ! How good is that focus distance too ? could def have some fun with that . Great work as always mate keep that history alive .
Thanks mate! Lenses with close focus get me right here lol
@@MarkHoltze Yeah so many options right ! those 100 mm macros are pretty versatile when you look at what you can do .
Curious if you have tried the Mir 24, I've heard it's based on a similar optical design, but available with better coatings and obviously a little bit faster at F2 instead of 2.8
Nicely shot video with amazing editing. No doubt that you are a professional editor. I have the Flektogon 35/2,4 and it is definitely not my favourite lens. Corner sharpness is terrible. My favourite vintage lens is the Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 135/3,5. That lens is amazing.
I have that one, but the aperture is stuck wide open.......GAH!
@@MarkHoltze Ahh, sorry to hear, but it shouldn’t be to hard to repair. If you fail just buy another one, they can be found pretty cheap, especially when sold with camera + 50mm by someone who don’t have a camerainterest.
I have the 50/4 medium format Flektogon and its great. Also Zebra version.
have you ever tried the kipon iberit 35mm f2.4 version of the zeiss flectakon?
The colours are exactly what I like - much more preferable than hard primary colours, I like a little desaturation. I suppose that it all depends what you propose to use this wonderful lens for. I use it for collating details of architecture and nature. The close-up and out of focus background with slightly washed-out colours are excellent for me. The same criteria pertinent for black and white. If you appreciate that 'art' can be painted in many different ways, then this lens is excellent. Additionally, you need to be on top of your game related to lighting values.
For sure! Thanks Jack!
The closest focus distance of 1st vision (silver) is 35cm, not the zebra/black is 18cm, is there any advantage of 1st vision than 2nd/3rd?
It's great that you go into the histories of lenses. You pull together the background facts and how those facts relate to the lenses you are reviewing. I would go the the first version of the Flektogon 35mm, if I wanted to obtain a copy. But, recently, I went with the advice of a competing reviewer, whose handle starts with a Z and ends with graphy. I obtained the Olympus OM G.zuiko 35mm f/2.8, due to its sharpness, compared to the Flektogon 35mm f/2.4. Now that may approach an apple to orange comparison, as your review is of the earlier f/2.8, but the f/2.4 might be the better choice for many photographers, due to it's close minimum focus distance and MC. Me personally, I prefer vintage lenses that are single-coated and from the 60's, so I may, in the future, obtain the 35mm f/2.8..
2.4 is newer and much improved based on this lens. In the end likely the better choice for sure, these are single coated and OLD, It's not the best 35 i've used, but it has a vibe for sure.
Then you should try the OM Zuiko 35mm F/2 lens. Chrome nose if you can find one. Very unique character.
@@russrosener7463 Thanks for the advice..
I have the not-zebra version. I actually like the color rendering. It's a bit watercolory and reminds me of Jupiter9 contrast and color presentation. Try it for night photos in a city.
Ya night in the city would be good actually based on how this performs. Ya water colors is a good way to describe these.
Always love your story telling 😊
Have you looked at the chinon lenses? I’ve got the 55mm f1.7 and I love how it renders the image for video, the image seems to roll off smoothly unlike modern lenses abrupt division between objects. I’ve got a 35mm f2.8 on the way, I blame you for the addiction 😉
Great just what I need another lens brands to look at lol! Heard of them, but haven't gotten one ... YET. Thanks Joel!
To help you get started 😅
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DSLR video shooter did a nice little review, sorry to give you more work (not sorry shh 🤫)
Wow, great information. Is $360 the right price for it including an adapter?
Hey Mark, need your professional help. Finally made my mind up to a choice of 2 lenses lol. Nikon AI f2.8 (either 24mm or 28mm) or the Contax Zeiss Distagon T lenses (25mm or 28mm) really stuck on what to go for and looking for some of your amazing help.
THEN! I saw your video on the Zeiss Flextagon 35mm and 20mm etc but with DDR MC and just DDR, but typically with an M42 mount, which could make converting to EF easier, and was curious if this should be an option I should put at the front.
This lenses would be going on a bmpcc 6K g2 on S35 so have to consider the crop factor.
Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks as always.
So, I've toyed with the idea of picking one of these up, but after the Takumar 35mm f2.3 I just can't justify it. Though, I barely use the 2.3 and have been considering passing it on. How do you think the 2 compare? I do really like the idea of that MFD, but I'm unsure It will get much more use than the Takumar currently does overall. My 31mm limited seems to steal the show more often than not.
I love the Mir-1 a lens that was cloned after this lens a little bit more. I've owned a few versions of the Fleck and I find with the Exkata mount that the focus ring feels very stiff on just about every version that I've owned.
Yup, this one stiff too.
@@MarkHoltze that is a bummer
You have multiple Zeiss' in Germany. In this case the Jena is the GDR (East Germany) part of Zeiss and "Oberkochen" is part of the FRG (West Germany). The town of Aalen where Oberkochen is, is full of Carl Zeiss. There are Carl Zeiss buildings throughout the town and many other former employees which started their own optics companies. Essentially, there's a Carl Zeiss in every part of that town. Some do manufacturing, some do assembly, some do finishing, some do R&D. Sadly I couldn't get too much insight because they were quite secretive. But needless to say is that, when you have such a company in your town, other industries will also thrive because there are short routes between them and each company has high engineering prowess. The town of Aalen is full of such companies, and not limited to Aalen. There are also a few international big companies around it, like Sumitomo, Varta, Henkel (Unilever). And that's in a radius of 20 miles around Oberkochen.
And we're not talking like Stuttgart, or Munich where the car manufacturers are. But like, a small-ish and really unlikely towns to be packed full of history and technology.
Oh crap if that’s the zebra it’s radioactive like the Takumar… Photo quality on this is excellent…
I do enjoy using it. The Carl Zeiss Pancola 50mm 1.7 which is a beautiful…
Didn’t know it was a 37mm…
Is it? I'll have to look into that, I've never seen mention of it and the glass is clear without any yellowing. That's interesting.
camerapedia.fandom.com/wiki/Radioactive_lenses
checked a few sources, I don't think the Jena Flek 35mm F/2.8 is based on a few google searhces. Where did you read that mate?
Sorry mark, I was researching both the Carl Zeiss Jena Pancola 50 and not the 35mm Jena..
It’s your fault got so many lenses I’m confused.com. However,the Pancola 50mm is a beautiful thing.
Yeay, jena love
Closest I got to Germany was "little Berlin" today. Ate some great German Food at the Concordia club. mmmmm!
0:45 The "Version 4" in the video is the totally different 35/2.4, in M42 mount in both standard automatic and electric version for Praktica models using the electric system. There WAS a proper "Version 4" of the 35/2.8 in "modern" appearance, but it's only in Exakta mount; the 35/2.4 was never made in Exakta mount.
I've seen images of it when searched, but this one just looked cooler ;)
I actually kinda like the low contrast look in the colour images. Very nice feel to it. Interesting thats it's actually a 37mm. I've a Mir 1 on the way to me I must compare it with my nikkor 35mm f2.8 and see is there much of a difference in the supposed 2mm.
Have to make sure you’re at infinity focus for both. Focus breathing may vary and the focal length is pulled from
the lens at infinity focus
I just nabbed an M42 version of the Flektogon, sn/9663087, its a 'zebra' style, but has only 5 aperture blades... perhaps it's a later b1960s build? I don't know, but I adore the 'pentagram bokeh' stars it produces in the highlights!
Me too!! Nice find mate!
Just bought the lens! Do you know where I can buy the adapter to EF mount?
Fotodiox M42 to EOS mount. Search that in Google should give you local listings
The clise focusing distance is really cool and even more extreme effects with the 20mm. Wide and close allows you to get lots more variety in the background to blur.
Yes, I love a good close focus!
Looks like at 2.8 it is sharp only in the center and it gets really soft, really fast towards the edges, correct?
Only at the center, like most of these lenses wide open. Need to stop down 2 stops to get into the "zone".
Well. it's part of the charm ;)
Filter thread size .49mm?
49mm...I'm not sure I put the POINT there
Thanks Mark!! how do this compare to the 2.4 version ?
Haven't played with the 2.4. It's a newer and more improved version of this one, so I suspect it will have less "character" and render better images technically. I'm just guessing though :)
@@MarkHoltze Do try the 2.4, I found quite a late MC one a few months ago. It is more than sharp, resolving more detail to the 24MP sensor of my A7iii than any lens I have tried. Good contrast into the light but still has character :-) Very much enjoyed the video, great to compare with the older 2.8.
I have both the first generation in chrome and the third generation in zebra. Although the zebra can focus much closer, the chrome one is much better built and has more aperture blades. Most importantly the first generation is way sharper, reaching it's best performance at F5.6 compared to F8 on the zebra and is as sharp wide open as the zebra at F4. Moreover, it has much less chromatic aberration. The biggest downside is that the first generation flektogon with M42 (I don't know about other mounts) does not have a filter thread.
bro where do I get this vintage lenses in Germany
eBay mate, they're everywhere. :)
Technically with a 0,49mm filter thread its not really a lens, its more like a Pinhole or camera obscura. 😉
Sorry Mark, couldn't help myself, hope you don't mind the joke.
Do you use imperial measurements mostly in Canada ?
That's what I thought...
It's actually 49mm or 4,9cm or 0,49dm or 0,049m...you get the point, I hope😉
@@adizett6824 NO clue why I put 0.49mm......i mean I SAID that and just made the image based on what I said lol. 49mm, yes
lol....you're not wrong. No idea why I said that, Trying to remember all the french and german pronouciation. I caught myself saying 5 blades instead of 6 blade aperture but was able to pull the word six from 1960's an dialog edit it. the 0.49mm could have easily been edited by cutting out the ZERO POINT lol...oh well, now it's up forever.
Love a good joke mate, especially at my expense it's funny! lol
Waiting for a "not so good vintage lens" video :P
i'm due lol
0.49mm filter thread?
You're sure about that? Quite difficult to get any light through a less than 1 millimetre diameter at the front lol.
Definitly not lol. 0.49 meters….why didn’t add millimeters? I have no idea. My dunce hat is on, ✊
@@MarkHoltze Not 0.49 metres either lol!
That would be 490 millimetres.
Still a great vid - excited to one day get a copy of this lens (and it will be a copy since it will be the Mir 1).
I was thinking of getting my hands on the Contax Zeiss 35mm f2.8 for my Nikon Z5, but maybe this one is the better choice. I really like the minimal focus of 18 cm and considering that I already have the 28mm f2.8 Contax, this one is probably the wiser choice.
Oh, and thanks for the great video :) Not sure why this one only popped up for me now, but enjoyed nevertheless :)
All my older lens reviews have died a strange and unusual death on this platform. They perform well out the gate and just die. I haven’t had a comment on this since the second week published.
It’s a nice lens for sure. I would personally grow the Contax line if I were you. More consistency in results and experience.
If you can find one for a goood price though, go for it. This one won’t let you down
The CONTAX Zeiss Distagon 35/2.8 MM is way ahead of this low contrasty old 35/2.8 Flektogon, and even it's 35/2.4 Flek Successor is much better, than this old 35/2.8 CZJ Flek.
@marcp.1752 I’m a Contax guy myself.
I shoot since 1990 with Contax (C/Y) and then you should know, that your title is pure clickbait, nothing more, nothing less - be honest! I am INFJ, and i know what i am saying. The 1st 35mm F2.8 CONTAX Zeiss Biogon Pre-WWII for the CONTAX I & II was back into it's day a real game changer, also the Zeiss Planar 50/1.5, which was being the fastest prime ever, at it's release - Leica simply had nothing competitive. I know the Zeiss/Contax, Yashica & Kyocera story very well, i love Zeiss, and i shoot with C/Y starting with my Yashica FX-3 Super 2000 into 1989, a year later via Contax 139Q, 137 MA, and i own other bodies from the Series, and the S2b. @@MarkHoltze
@marcp.1752 it’s not clickbait, I don’t use clickbait to channels views. If I wanted views I wouldn’t be making videos about vintage lenses I’m sorry I take issue with that accusation.
I’m talking about this lens, not this lens Vs Contax Zeiss lenses, not this lens Vs FD’s or Leica’s. This lens has a reputation, that’s where the title comes from. If you have been shooting since 1990 I’m surprised this is how you’ve interpreted my video. You have your fav lenses, amazing. This video does not insult that choice. It’s just a video about a lens and not a video dismissing other lenses. The reputation it has isn’t made up by me, it exists on its own. There are lots of legendary lenses. If you take issue with “it started with this” you are misinterpreting the meaning of that line.
Anyway I appreciate your feedback as I said, but it’s not click bait and no I’m not comparing it to the other lenses you mentioned.
The pre war biogon was not an SLR lens, it had too big of a rear element to fit that format. The history portion of this video is making reference to the SLR format lens. Hence the mention of the Soviet lens as well.
“…the solution to both problems was solved by two companies at almost the same time, independently from each other, on separate sides of what was then the Iron Curtain. These were the team of Harry Zöllner and Rudolf Solisch at VEB Carl Zeiss Jena in what was then East Germany, and Pierre Angénieux at his own company in Paris. By 1950 they had both applied for patents for 35mm wide-angle lenses for 35mm SLR cameras”
Points for overall pronunciation 🇨🇦
I've gotten it wrong before, got called out on it....appreciate the fact I got called out and went hunting for how it SHOULD be said.
@@MarkHoltze Yeah, I'm sure it's hard to please everyone...
Great story indeed...only one minor correction...Praktica..not Practina !
Best regards
Yes, you are right. Thank you!
I think you mean a front filter thread of 49mm; as 0.49mm is 0.019 inches ;)
Yes. 49mm 😂
I have to disagree that this lens isn't good for color. That it was created primarily for black and white photography. Since the 1930s lens manufacturers were creating lenses with color accuracy in mind. Any lens marked "anastigmat" is corrected to visible wavelengths of color. The low saturation and contrast you made note of was an aesthetic choice by European lens makers. A "color palette" if you will. Japanese manufacturers liked a much more saturated and bold color definition. Zeiss, both at Jena and Oberkochken plants peferred a more muted rendition of colors. I have the second version of this lens and you are correct about a lens hood being vital to reducing light flare.
I much prefer the f2.4 version. It lives on my Fuji XT20.
they improved quite heavily off the 2.8, i hear it's a fantastic lens
awesome lens m8saved up all my life to get the canon l and this just pi**es all over it . First pic (without is or whatever!) Not selling. Cant tell difference between the car in front.. : )
are you a fan of Cheyenne’s reviews on casual photophile?
Not familiar actually. Should I check it out?
@@MarkHoltze yep
The Soviet MIR-1 version does not focus closer than .7 meters, or at least my version doesn't. Still it is an excellent lens. You forgot to mention (or maybe you didn't know) that the Russians won an award for this lens back in 1958 at the Grand Prix Brussels (what ever the heck that means... my copy is so marked). I guess the Russians never minded stealing a design, any design, and calling it their own back then, or maybe still today?
The Mir 1 they had legal permission to use, or it was licensed. I know that lens was done legit, over the 44-2 but in the end they just took what they wanted after the Easter front conflict. They do have quite a history of stealing great design. Bombers, lenses, supersonic passenger planes ;)
@@MarkHoltze Well turn about is fair play. We, in the USA, have been stealing their AK 47 & 74 rifles for years. Pretty sure no US makers pay a royalty.😎
@@MarkHoltze BTW, I love your videos! Thank you for taking time to make them.
Appreciate you being here, thank you!
Jena is pronounced more like: Jay-nah ;)
Im English pronouncing German words exactly is as difficult as it is for them to pronounce some English words perfectly ;)
No its not xd
@@christophsmaul5575 okay mabe an less excited "jay" but what would you suggest?
Urgh, please stop making vids about the lenses I wanna buy, Ebay is already jacking up the prices we don't need massive amount of buyers on top of that xD
Great video, I really liked the pacing and the history of the lens design. It seems the lens has a lot of glow in the images, it didn't appear as such on all the Flickr samples I've seen. Any problems with that ?
old lenses, the copy you get will likely impact how the images look. This copy definitely blooms quite a lot and that's part of the lack of contrast mentioned in the video. Remove a high contrast light source from the frame and it's not an issue, but there's a lot of stop difference between the bright sun filled sky and the shadows. Remove the sun and it's not as flairy, I suspect it's single coatings or could just be my copy of the lens.
Ultimately it's wht contribues to that "film" kind of look, haliation without any diffusion ;)
Lol did anyone else hear BO1?
Do I understand it correctly that you recommend shooting at 2.8 to eliminate chromatic abberation?
No you don’t understand that’s not what I said
Talks about versions of the lens, shows the entire time the Exakta version and wastes no single word about the different mounts it came in.
Ya I have the exacta so that’s the version I’m going to focus on. I’m not sure if you’re taking things way to literally, I’m assuming English is a second language and just let it be. If I have to hand hold what you’re suggesting there is no discussion: I assume a certain level of basic understanding as a gateway into my content. If you have it; that’s on you mate. Sorry
"with the use of a lenshood, which can be found relatively cheap online". That is irresponsible BS.
It has a reason why CZJ built a lenshood specifically for this lens.
It’s not BS at all, but nice try ;)