A very worthy cause Steve and a great effort by all of the modellers but if this was a competition you'd have won by a railway mile. I remember those old Hornby coaches and they looked anything but teak. Your transformation was almost unbelievable......................I could virtually smell the varnish. Well done
Thanks Steve that’s most kind, yeah the skills of all the modellers was top draw, but the ideas and imagination that went into the other builds certainly put mine to shame!
Many thanks Ray, the whole rake mostly comprises the current top of the range and lovely Hornby Teak coaches which have been weathered for a client. The aim of this exercise was to make the 40 year old version blend in with the new ones. More info in blurb if interested.
What an entertaining but also absorbing video. Fantastic action shots of express locos at full tilt and then an amazing transformation of the coach. Great idea - brilliantly executed.
Thanks kind sir, yes a privilege to be involved but deffo not a case of being outgunned - I think your RM coach is a masterpiece, and great to see it in that livery it makes it unique 👏👏👏 Hope you’ve done a RUclips video!?
I'm a southern man myself, but I do have a soft spot for LNER TEAK coaches. What you have achieved is spectacularly brilliant, very eye catching a mini masterpiece. As with all your weathering techniques are wonderful, my favourite is obviously the oily rag weathering on the bullied Pacifics.
Can I just say the amount of realism they put into the Hornby trains like there’s a limit between realism and actual real life and they’ve just shattered that barrier
In 4mm I bought when available and very cheaply the Ian Kirk LNER kits. Some were shortened fairly easily to get the GE system length. I used a light matt brown and mahogany wood stain for the overcoat. I could represnt older scumble being darker and also do some lighter panel sections where Doncaster had treated the woodwork only partially.
Truely very like the originals. By the way I also attempted completely redoing such Hornby Teak Coach and I would like to admit that it can compete with each of yours. However, I actually did use slightly different paints than you described. The absolute surprise however I achieved by coating the finished coach with an orange translucent which I brushed on just as the colours used to achieve the right wood colour.
Definately looks better. But i could never get over the limited range of types available so resorted to the kirk kits when I had my decent size OO set up. Fun things to build
Just amazing your layout (and your trains and their sounds) just are the most spectacular thing I’ve ever seen! I wonder just how you built you layout it’s amazing
Thanks very much for your kind words and I’m glad you enjoyed watching. Much of the layout was built on a very tight budget - the large bridge for example is made from off cuts of plywood and MDF with kebab sticks and the cardboard from cereal packets.
Didn't move the battery boxes though, did you. The battery boxes on the 80's Hornby 'Gresleys' were on an underframe that belonged to a different region/company. LNER-built Gresleys had centrally positioned battery boxes. All that work undermined by a little oversight. I used to cut off the moulded battery boxes, cover the gap with plastic and mount MJT white metal ones behind the slightly more accurate trusses, or if I had the time I took them off and replaced them with MJT cast trusses. Then I worked on the bodies and interiors. Much more satisfying to know they looked r-i-g-h-t.
Thanks for watching Alan, yes well spotted. I’ve seen this done before but also heard that it can weaken the underframe considerably, resulting in warping. Doesn’t sound like this has happened to yours though and I’m sure it would be fine, and some discreet reinforcement could be included. Nonetheless, opted not to go down this route seeing as it’s not my coach - couldn’t risk the long term integrity. Besides this was never going to be the definitive model, as the work involved such as installing flush glazing, altering body shape, perfect ride height etc simply wouldn’t be worth it - would be more efficient to buy the full price, top of the range Hornby coach which is far more accurate in many ways. Besides the overall effect is the concern here, and that primarily lies with transforming the teak colour - so that it could blend in with the top spec models. Having said that, would love to see your coaches - will you be uploading them to RUclips or other social media anytime?
@@NEVILLEGROVE I have some Kirk coaches in carmine and cream that need to be finished off, I also have non-corridor Kirk coaches I built some years ago, together with Hornby carmine and cream coaches I modified. Added to them I have a batch of Bachmann maroon Thompson coaches I bought from Hatton's 2nd hand pages. These are the earlier type, but nonetheless presentable (nobody's going to stare at them to count the rivets). Don't know if you remember a shop in London W1 called 'The Booking Hall' (Rathbone Place off Goodge St). I used to build Kirk kits on commission through the owner Nigel Downend and went through a fair number of kits painted teak, carmine and cream and maroon. Got fed up of it after a while, but I used metal parts to substitute for flimsy plastic, including Comet or MJT bogies. My 'trading name' was East London LNE.
Steve, don’t know much about LNER, were all their coaches teak or did they have some that were painted a specific color livery? Beautiful job on these as usual👍
Thank you! I’m not an expert but they were mostly teak. Notable exceptions include The Coronation (blue / grey), Silver Jubilee (all over silver) and their tourist stock (green / cream). In their early days after grouping in 1923 they would have inherited stock from the smaller companies they took over so there would have been some overlap.
A very worthy cause Steve and a great effort by all of the modellers but if this was a competition you'd have won by a railway mile. I remember those old Hornby coaches and they looked anything but teak. Your transformation was almost unbelievable......................I could virtually smell the varnish. Well done
Thanks Steve that’s most kind, yeah the skills of all the modellers was top draw, but the ideas and imagination that went into the other builds certainly put mine to shame!
Absolutely fantastic. The old plastic finish coaches really look nothing like wood!
Many thanks Ray, the whole rake mostly comprises the current top of the range and lovely Hornby Teak coaches which have been weathered for a client. The aim of this exercise was to make the 40 year old version blend in with the new ones. More info in blurb if interested.
What an entertaining but also absorbing video. Fantastic action shots of express locos at full tilt and then an amazing transformation of the coach. Great idea - brilliantly executed.
Thanks MrT! 👍 about time I did some sort of how to! Hope it is useful / interesting to some…
Wonderful stuff as per usual.
It’s been a privilege to be involved with the Great British Coach Build, if not totally out gunned!
Cheers John b 😷
Thanks kind sir, yes a privilege to be involved but deffo not a case of being outgunned - I think your RM coach is a masterpiece, and great to see it in that livery it makes it unique 👏👏👏 Hope you’ve done a RUclips video!?
The coaches are excellent, but the quality of your film is fabulous!!!
Hah excellent - thanks! 🙏
Man that intro! Something else!
This is very good. The colour is so realistic! Your modelling just gets better and better!
Very kind to say so thanks very much!
I'm a southern man myself, but I do have a soft spot for LNER TEAK coaches. What you have achieved is spectacularly brilliant, very eye catching a mini masterpiece. As with all your weathering techniques are wonderful, my favourite is obviously the oily rag weathering on the bullied Pacifics.
Hi Paul, thanks very much! I can’t wait to get hold of some of the new Bulleid coaches. Although I think some subtle weathering will suffice on those!
@@NEVILLEGROVE can't wait for the new bullied coaches myself, a couple of rakes of ten to twelve will suffice.
Great work it’s amazing what can be done to those old Hornby Teaks with a little imagination!
Thanks - they’re basic, but actually pretty good, it’s the finish that lets these old ones down.
Very nice. I paint the window recesses dark grey, which makes them look more like an internal reflection.
Thanks, nice idea I’ll remember that for future projects 👍👍👍
Great work Steve. You'd never know it what it was before. It's just soo woody! Awesome video too!
Thanks dude! To be honest though it’s hard not to improve the original finish, magnolia emulsion over the top would make it look more realistic!
Outstanding! What a transformation….
Easily done really, I hope this inspires others to do the same.
I agree with other viewers stunning coached and camera work almost looked animated in a way
Thanks buddy, glad you like the coach and enjoyed the video.
Very impressive work.
Ta very much, and thanks for watching! 🙌
Looks excellent!
Superb. I need to dig mine out and do similar to match my newer Gresleys ☺️
Amazing work!
Big thanks! 🙌
That’s a beautiful makeover 🤩👍👌 and your camera work is fantastic as always 😍👍
Thanks very much, I’ll have to do the same to mine now! 😅
Fantastic build and superb filming !!
Thanks very much Michael, a very satisfying project!
Can I just say the amount of realism they put into the Hornby trains like there’s a limit between realism and actual real life and they’ve just shattered that barrier
Looks Amazing
Pass mustard…… brilliant assimilation of the English language. Nice one.
😂😂😂 Pesky auto correct! Brilliant exercise in sarcasm. Top bloke.
It looks excellent.
Thanks kind sir 👍👍👍
In 4mm I bought when available and very cheaply the Ian Kirk LNER kits. Some were shortened fairly easily to get the GE system length. I used a light matt brown and mahogany wood stain for the overcoat. I could represnt older scumble being darker and also do some lighter panel sections where Doncaster had treated the woodwork only partially.
Truely very like the originals. By the way I also attempted completely redoing such Hornby Teak Coach and I would like to admit that it can compete with each of yours. However, I actually did use slightly different paints than you described. The absolute surprise however I achieved by coating the finished coach with an orange translucent which I brushed on just as the colours used to achieve the right wood colour.
Yeah the idea is to tint the finish underneath, rather than completely repaint 👍👍👍
Those look so much better.
Thanks for watching again and for the comment! 🙏 t’s quite easy really and a very satisfying project!
Definately looks better. But i could never get over the limited range of types available so resorted to the kirk kits when I had my decent size OO set up. Fun things to build
Very impressive and for a good cause. One question: what about the roof?
All I can say when I am total Gob smacked is Wow..
😀😀😀
Hah thanks David! 🙌
Nice video mate. That looks great love the detailing on it. also your layout is amazing really like it.
Cheers Nicholas, thanks for watching and for the kind comments 👍
Just amazing your layout (and your trains and their sounds) just are the most spectacular thing I’ve ever seen! I wonder just how you built you layout it’s amazing
Thanks very much for your kind words and I’m glad you enjoyed watching. Much of the layout was built on a very tight budget - the large bridge for example is made from off cuts of plywood and MDF with kebab sticks and the cardboard from cereal packets.
They look great! Could you simply brush the paint on for the teak effect or does it have to be airbrushed?
Yeah you can do either 👍
You have Dun a great job on the coaches
Cheers Cameron, the top of the range ones were weathered for a customer, they happened to be here at the same time. 👍
Super 👍👍👍👍
🙏🙏🙏
Didn't move the battery boxes though, did you. The battery boxes on the 80's Hornby 'Gresleys' were on an underframe that belonged to a different region/company. LNER-built Gresleys had centrally positioned battery boxes. All that work undermined by a little oversight. I used to cut off the moulded battery boxes, cover the gap with plastic and mount MJT white metal ones behind the slightly more accurate trusses, or if I had the time I took them off and replaced them with MJT cast trusses. Then I worked on the bodies and interiors. Much more satisfying to know they looked r-i-g-h-t.
Thanks for watching Alan, yes well spotted. I’ve seen this done before but also heard that it can weaken the underframe considerably, resulting in warping. Doesn’t sound like this has happened to yours though and I’m sure it would be fine, and some discreet reinforcement could be included. Nonetheless, opted not to go down this route seeing as it’s not my coach - couldn’t risk the long term integrity. Besides this was never going to be the definitive model, as the work involved such as installing flush glazing, altering body shape, perfect ride height etc simply wouldn’t be worth it - would be more efficient to buy the full price, top of the range Hornby coach which is far more accurate in many ways. Besides the overall effect is the concern here, and that primarily lies with transforming the teak colour - so that it could blend in with the top spec models. Having said that, would love to see your coaches - will you be uploading them to RUclips or other social media anytime?
@@NEVILLEGROVE I have some Kirk coaches in carmine and cream that need to be finished off, I also have non-corridor Kirk coaches I built some years ago, together with Hornby carmine and cream coaches I modified. Added to them I have a batch of Bachmann maroon Thompson coaches I bought from Hatton's 2nd hand pages. These are the earlier type, but nonetheless presentable (nobody's going to stare at them to count the rivets). Don't know if you remember a shop in London W1 called 'The Booking Hall' (Rathbone Place off Goodge St). I used to build Kirk kits on commission through the owner Nigel Downend and went through a fair number of kits painted teak, carmine and cream and maroon. Got fed up of it after a while, but I used metal parts to substitute for flimsy plastic, including Comet or MJT bogies. My 'trading name' was East London LNE.
I have a question: the railroad range hornby teaks come with 12`wheels and the super detailed ones with 14`wheels. Which size is correct to scale?
The latter ones will likely be more correct. The older models had standard wheels for every item of rolling stock including wagons and coaches 👍
I think that the Hornby LNER B17 streamlined is a more interesting loco to pull these coaches. Unfortunately, it is an old model and was not updated.
Yeah interesting indeed, sadly don’t have one. In fact I was lucky to have these two visiting at the time for weathering.
Nice👍♐
Ta! 🙌
Very nice! What did you do with the roof?
Steve, don’t know much about LNER, were all their coaches teak or did they have some that were painted a specific color livery? Beautiful job on these as usual👍
Thank you! I’m not an expert but they were mostly teak. Notable exceptions include The Coronation (blue / grey), Silver Jubilee (all over silver) and their tourist stock (green / cream). In their early days after grouping in 1923 they would have inherited stock from the smaller companies they took over so there would have been some overlap.
Current highest bid is £55..... Head over to the link in the description and get your bids in. This is an amazing coach and it is for a great cause.
Thanks Jimmy for your support and kind words! 👍👍
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