@@christopherruocco7034 They were saying it gives you no max hand size. As in you can hold as many as you want without discarding. They weren't saying it doesn't.
@@christopherruocco7034 The gatherer text: This spell can’t be countered. You have no maximum hand size. Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, draw a card. Discard three cards: Exile Nezahal, Primal Tide. Return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner’s control at the beginning of the next end step.
I thought from the intro that you had to actually *draw* 100 cards, like you needed a way to shuffle some back in to get to that number. Made me wonder how y'all would do it, and then I saw Seth's Valakut Awakening and I thought that was so smart! Oh well. Next time try that! It'd be even funnier! :)
Wow on the week the editor has to track all the cards you draw you throw soul warden in there as well? They better get a pay raise for that one Richard!
Aminatou's Augury would let Phil cast any of those cards UNTIL END OF TURN! That hurt so bad when he passed after Sheoldred was bounced. >.< He plays that spell so much... He should have known. 😭
Aminatou's Augury can only cast one card of each card type. Mnemonic Deluge is a sorcery, and so is the Windfall he cast (and every other nonland Augury exiled). He had to cast the windfall to get people to remove the Sheoldred, so after that happened he wasn't able to cast the deluge.
If we want to get real technical. Phil didn't meet the condition. He only drew 89 cards. He needed to shuffle some cards back into his deck to redraw and get to 100.
I had the means to shuffle back in hand, but we made the rules to work with "drawing off an empty library counts" in case someone gets their cards exiled or something. I didn't want to wheel the table into interaction
@@BrewersKitchen makes the title a bit clickbaity and the intro didnt mention "drawing off an empty library counts" so you technically didnt meet the conditions thus you technically lost first as you didnt move cards into you deck and i did see cards in your graveyard that you could have done this. you also ran out of mana when you decked yourself so.......
@@Icarus_789 wha wha cry some more cause you got to sit and be entertained for almost an hr for basicly free. Damn kid do you complain its not warm enough when your mommy didn't heat up the breast milk for you too?
Rules interaction correction for Tomer: Burgeoning requires the land to be played, so anything that puts a land into play, won't actually trigger it. 30:30
1:50 the surveil lands are so good we're even running the off-color ones?? Edit: Nope, seth played the right one, editor mistake lol. Good job Richard.
I'm looking forward to all the Feldon's Cane effects they'll be running since they have to "Draw 100 cards" not "Draw your whole deck" I'm seeing alot of ramp early depleting those libraries.
Is it draw 100 or draw your deck? Because I definitely would have used some shuffle target players graveyard into their library stuff. Wheel of Sun and Moon for instance.
1:40 Definitely the wrong land pulled up there, but I'll admit, the Elegant Parlor Seth played does look very much Black instead of Red. 23:40 Vampires will enter before the draws as the death trigger goes on the stack on top of Shadowheart's ability.
Seth and Tomer spent the better part of a decade racing to draw the most cards, and here comes this youngin' who doubles your card draw attempt in less than an hour! You gotta step out up!
@@Niuttuc Yeah, true, I guess I didn't see drawing the same as milling. (technically it's not.) Either way, they definitely didn't say that you don't actually have to draw 100 cards. lol
This makes me think of my "Jace Tribal" deck, which has the goal of winning via Thoracle, Jace Wielder of Mysteries, or Lab Man, and does it by pure draw (no remove deck with Thoracle on stack shenanigans). My favorite endgame is Windfall with ~50 cards in hand while I've got Alhammaret's Archive, Teferi's Ageless Insight, Thought Reflection, and Mirror Made-Copying Thought Reflection to draw 800 cards. (please forgive nay misspellings or misremembering of card names, I don't have time to look them up for a quick RUclips comment)
Could there be an "all Gass no brakes" week where there are no mass board wipes/mass bounces? Only 1 for 1 removal. Phil may auto win but still may be cool haha
The only thing I question about this one is allowing people to be die from life loss. There should be no losing from other means, someone can only win by drawing cards. Had Sheoldred stuck and everyone else was eliminated that way it would have been a disappointing end to the game. Luckily it didn't and it was very entertaining episode. p.s. Props to Richard for being the only person to have the courage to not run blue.
How did Phil win? He only drew 88 cards and then milled out? Wouldn't he actually have to shuffle his graveyard into his library to draw 12 more cards?
I was actually sad no hundred cards needed to be drawn. I thought we’d see elixir of immortality, endurance out of the green deck, wheel of sun and moon but alas
I had a dream that you all played a table wide legend rule game. There's no way of getting rid of it but if one person plays a legend then the next plays the same one the person playing chooses which one stays. You have to have a majority of legendaries including lands.
That's actually the way the legendary rule used to work that only one copy of a legendary creature could be on the battlefield no matter who was playing them
I saw Soul Warden and thought he would have a Marina Vendrell's Grimoire. But then saw he wasn't running blue. It would have been so good in this weeks game. Let's see if anyone has it. At worst, it's draw 5 for 6 mana.
Maybe im just old but i cannot stand people claiming they arent the threat. you are there to win the damn game, everyone is a threat. Maybe the attacking player has something in hand to deal with the "real" threat at the table. It just sounds amazingly whiny every single damn time. And yes, someone else can be the threat the whole game, you take your turn, and suddenly you are the threat.
Everyone thank Richard for editing this one so I could be home with my new baby! CLASH OOOOONNN!
Congrats man!
yaaaay congratulations to you THREE!
Congrats 👏 enjoy your little!
CONGRATS YO
CLASH ON
Congratulations 🥂. What a thing to celebrate. Ya love to hear it man
Seth when faced with any deck-building challenge:
_This bad boy can fit so many panharmonicons_
actually, it's commander, so it can only fit one
Believe it or not Nezahal is even better than you think Tomer, it gives you no max hand size too lol
Tomer actually knew that because he read it when he played the card but richard fakes him out by telling him he had to discard.
39:15, Nezahal, Primal Tide gives you no max hand size.
Beg to differ when gatherer says it does? Cant be countered, no max hand size, draw on opp cast of a non creature spell
@@christopherruocco7034 They were saying it gives you no max hand size. As in you can hold as many as you want without discarding. They weren't saying it doesn't.
@@zacharymccutcheon8607 AH my
apologies I was half asleep, might be what led to my major confusion hahah
@@christopherruocco7034 The gatherer text:
This spell can’t be countered.
You have no maximum hand size.
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, draw a card.
Discard three cards: Exile Nezahal, Primal Tide. Return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner’s control at the beginning of the next end step.
Draw 100 Cards
Richard: im gaining life
I thought from the intro that you had to actually *draw* 100 cards, like you needed a way to shuffle some back in to get to that number. Made me wonder how y'all would do it, and then I saw Seth's Valakut Awakening and I thought that was so smart! Oh well.
Next time try that! It'd be even funnier! :)
I thought that too, and I actually think that would’ve been an interesting extra challenge! Maybe next time.
And put crim on the pod, he'll definetly bring a nekusar mill deck xD
Respect to Richard for going hard mode this week by playing Orzhov
Crim would’ve brought Notion Thief and it would’ve been so meta and in character for him.
I was gonna say this lol, also probably would’ve ran sheo and scrawling crawler , maybe even fit in red for needle head
This
And can throw in a narset as a hate card...
There's also another old card nobody plays which essentially does the same: Plagiarize.
The draw meta is stacked with Seth, Tomer, and Phil this week. Richard got his work cut out for him
He only needs 100 spirited companions
If there was ever an episode for Consecrated Sphinx to make an appearance this is it.
Razorhead Needlekin: “I’m about to make a name for myself here”
Richard we see the Ivory Tower in your graveyard! You're not sneaking that past us!
Richard is a man of his word for sure. Excited to see the glasses of urza pop up lol😂
Wow on the week the editor has to track all the cards you draw you throw soul warden in there as well? They better get a pay raise for that one Richard!
Lol then I look through the comments and see Richard had to edit this himself haha
@@njmaloney25 I'll take the raise anyways 🤣🤣
Tomer what are you doing Nezahal says you have no maximum hand size!!!!
I kept thinking...am I missing something...did someone play a card that had time stamp priority that fixed card size hands? WTF is Tomer doing?
That last exchange was for the true blue sickos
Richard is awesome for not using blue for this challenge!
39:46 I adore Phil's reaction to "Narset, Parter of Veils" 😂
31:05 Phil baiting the Sheoldred Removal was genius move.
Aminatou's Augury would let Phil cast any of those cards UNTIL END OF TURN! That hurt so bad when he passed after Sheoldred was bounced. >.< He plays that spell so much... He should have known. 😭
Aminatou's Augury can only cast one card of each card type. Mnemonic Deluge is a sorcery, and so is the Windfall he cast (and every other nonland Augury exiled). He had to cast the windfall to get people to remove the Sheoldred, so after that happened he wasn't able to cast the deluge.
@@Niuttuc Oh yeah, totally spaced that. What bad luck!
If we want to get real technical. Phil didn't meet the condition. He only drew 89 cards. He needed to shuffle some cards back into his deck to redraw and get to 100.
Was looking for this comment, I was hoping to see some graveyard reshuffling as well.
I had the means to shuffle back in hand, but we made the rules to work with "drawing off an empty library counts" in case someone gets their cards exiled or something. I didn't want to wheel the table into interaction
@@BrewersKitchen makes the title a bit clickbaity and the intro didnt mention "drawing off an empty library counts" so you technically didnt meet the conditions thus you technically lost first as you didnt move cards into you deck and i did see cards in your graveyard that you could have done this. you also ran out of mana when you decked yourself so.......
@@Icarus_789 you know you can just not watch things right? Getting your feathered ruffled over a bunch of nothing. It was a fun game!
@@Icarus_789 wha wha cry some more cause you got to sit and be entertained for almost an hr for basicly free. Damn kid do you complain its not warm enough when your mommy didn't heat up the breast milk for you too?
They need to stop letting Richard tell them who they're scared of
These alternate win con games have been my favorite Commander Clash episodes. The Gain Life episode and the First to Lose Wins are among my favorites.
Rules interaction correction for Tomer: Burgeoning requires the land to be played, so anything that puts a land into play, won't actually trigger it. 30:30
This is the time for Arjun, the Shifting Flame to shine.
1:50 the surveil lands are so good we're even running the off-color ones??
Edit: Nope, seth played the right one, editor mistake lol. Good job Richard.
I'm looking forward to all the Feldon's Cane effects they'll be running since they have to "Draw 100 cards" not "Draw your whole deck" I'm seeing alot of ramp early depleting those libraries.
Is it draw 100 or draw your deck? Because I definitely would have used some shuffle target players graveyard into their library stuff. Wheel of Sun and Moon for instance.
It's fitting that Phil won this week, good work fellow Simic nonsense enjoyer 😎🤝😎
Seth and Phil are like 'So, same as usual?'
Lmao at Tomer discarding to hand size while controlling a Nezahal. Made it hurt to keep watching after that.
next time is first to 40 lands
I'm a little sad that my boy Arjun wasn't featured on this, but still, fun episode!
What a banger of an episode toward the end the counter war had me and my friends watching tonight going crazy! Super fun episode guys :)
"how do we kill phil"
"Please, one time, just chill"
I felt the pain in Phil's voice there lmao
Been loving these fun themes, makes the move to paper even better! Clash on!
Phil playing Cyc Rift? That was actually Unexpected.
Phil winning the by drawing his deck? Who didn't see that coming?
1:40 Definitely the wrong land pulled up there, but I'll admit, the Elegant Parlor Seth played does look very much Black instead of Red.
23:40 Vampires will enter before the draws as the death trigger goes on the stack on top of Shadowheart's ability.
It would be so good to bust out the Chains of Mephistopheles this week
Discarding to hand size with a Nezahal on the battlefield is painful to watch lol
Just another day for Phil, lol.
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Seth and Tomer spent the better part of a decade racing to draw the most cards, and here comes this youngin' who doubles your card draw attempt in less than an hour! You gotta step out up!
I'm so confused. How did Phil win instead of deck himself?
Found it - they house ruled drawing off an empty library, but just didn't tell us. Lol
@@Belena711they did tell it, at 00:10 in the video
@@Niuttuc Yeah, true, I guess I didn't see drawing the same as milling. (technically it's not.)
Either way, they definitely didn't say that you don't actually have to draw 100 cards. lol
For what it's worth Nezahal, gives you no maximum hand size.
Kudos to Richard for not playing blue for card draw week
i love that Phil is mewing in the thumbnail
I feel like one key point omitted was putting cards back into the deck to draw again, Phil drawing his deck is only 99 cards not 100 :^
Actively talking about Nezahal, while ignoring his No Max Hand ability... feels bad man.
A real blue mage fight this week. Huge stack.
Tomer casually nailing the Italian pronunciation
Consecrated Sphinx would be a dream in this match lol
it was a fair pronunciation of "Santuário Místico", Tomer. :)
One of my favorite decks is Locus God and one of my win conditions in drawing my whole deck. This was ao much fun to watch.
I think the rule should be that if you die on an alt-win week, your life is set to 25 and you have to F6 as well as skip your next turn
tomer's pronunciation of "santuario mistico" was actually on point
This makes me think of my "Jace Tribal" deck, which has the goal of winning via Thoracle, Jace Wielder of Mysteries, or Lab Man, and does it by pure draw (no remove deck with Thoracle on stack shenanigans). My favorite endgame is Windfall with ~50 cards in hand while I've got Alhammaret's Archive, Teferi's Ageless Insight, Thought Reflection, and Mirror Made-Copying Thought Reflection to draw 800 cards. (please forgive nay misspellings or misremembering of card names, I don't have time to look them up for a quick RUclips comment)
Now I want to see this theme again, but with notion thiefs and narsets abound... Crim would've done it :D
Triggered that he discarded while Nezahal was on the battlefield.
Go Phil! It’s nice seeing you in your element king ❤
Woah, Phil playing Cyc Rift?
Could there be an "all Gass no brakes" week where there are no mass board wipes/mass bounces? Only 1 for 1 removal. Phil may auto win but still may be cool haha
The only thing I question about this one is allowing people to be die from life loss. There should be no losing from other means, someone can only win by drawing cards.
Had Sheoldred stuck and everyone else was eliminated that way it would have been a disappointing end to the game.
Luckily it didn't and it was very entertaining episode.
p.s. Props to Richard for being the only person to have the courage to not run blue.
Whirlpool Warrior is a bomb in my Rielle Mill deck. It seems like a non-bo, but once you have the board set up, drawing 15-25 cards ends the game.
This seems like the perfect scenario for me to pull out my Chains of Mephistopheles.
39:40
Nezahal, Primal Tide
{5}{U}{U}
Legendary Creature - Elder Dinosaur
This spell can’t be countered.
You have no maximum hand size.
Epic finish to this one!
I now secretly root for Phil
How did Phil win? He only drew 88 cards and then milled out? Wouldn't he actually have to shuffle his graveyard into his library to draw 12 more cards?
Tomer didn't have to discard to hand size because Nezahal grants no maximum hand size.
Surprised no one tried to work in the Niv-Mizzit combo
I was actually sad no hundred cards needed to be drawn. I thought we’d see elixir of immortality, endurance out of the green deck, wheel of sun and moon but alas
Would Arjun the shifting flame not be broken for this?
if sethron drawlive doesn't win the draw cards for the purpose of drawing cards game something is wrong with this episode
Arjun, secret flame is actually insane. Crim would’ve done it if he was playing
isn't mill the best thing to play in this match up to prevent your opponents from drawing 100 total cards?
Anybody know where they get the mana counters they use?
You should do an episode about helix pinnacle, first to 100 mana wins 😮
omg how are they doing this challenge and nobody picked Magus Lucea?!?!? some untap effects and some x spells, super effective.
Reminds me of a game eith the Omo precon when i played drown in dreams and made X=84 so one player had to draw 84 cards and the other had to mill 168
I had a dream that you all played a table wide legend rule game. There's no way of getting rid of it but if one person plays a legend then the next plays the same one the person playing chooses which one stays. You have to have a majority of legendaries including lands.
That's actually the way the legendary rule used to work that only one copy of a legendary creature could be on the battlefield no matter who was playing them
@lazichicken1236 that's why I think if they played this way I'd be fun
Did we run tainted remedy in the "first to 1000 life wins" week? No? Then why are we running sheoldred in the "first to draw 100 wins" week.
I saw Soul Warden and thought he would have a Marina Vendrell's Grimoire. But then saw he wasn't running blue. It would have been so good in this weeks game. Let's see if anyone has it. At worst, it's draw 5 for 6 mana.
This would have been a good game if Crim would have been a part of it and played a draw punish deck.
okay so it's just phil week? lol
did seth play a black surveil land t1???
Offspring off that whirlpool warrior with the card doubling would have won the game
Seth can't be bothered to play on colour lands
WB surveil land in a WUR deck
That looks to be an editing error, if you look at the land he played, it seems to be the WR land
The more I watch clash, the more Im starting to realize that you guys are just really bad at magic 😂😂😂 love it
Shadowy Backstreet isn't in Zinnia's color identity. Why is that allowed?
RICHARD... TAP THE LANDS ALL THE SAME WAY...I SWEAR...
Ya I thought nezahal gave no max hand size? Am I missing something here?
good fight Tomer!
Tomer playing Simic without Sylvan Library or brainstorm?
Maybe im just old but i cannot stand people claiming they arent the threat. you are there to win the damn game, everyone is a threat. Maybe the attacking player has something in hand to deal with the "real" threat at the table. It just sounds amazingly whiny every single damn time. And yes, someone else can be the threat the whole game, you take your turn, and suddenly you are the threat.
How was the orzhov surveil land in seths jeskai deck 😮
Well Phil only drew 99 cards since his deck is only 99 non-commander cards. Seems like a draw.
Pretty sure that playing Sheodred on this week count as stack 🤔
My Uro deck is legit a commander deck i made about drawing the entire deck lol
Tomer discarding to hand size while Nezahal is in play is a travesty
This is going to be fun
Does surveil ignore the "no mill rule?"
You can still mill you just can't die to mill (well, to drawing from an empty deck)