I don't know about that comparison. I was friends with someone who taught motorcycle lessons as a job and he's been hospitalized twice for motorcycle accidents. The fact is, you aren't always going to be operating at 100% all the time and sometimes stuff happens beyond your control.
@@CoolGuyAtlas just because he taught a class doesn’t say anything about his careful/carelessness. I’ve been riding motorcycles myself for about 30 years without a single accident aside from laying it down a couple times while learning. Yes, the old saying “shit happens” applies equally in both scenarios but the point stands that the more careful and deliberate you are, the less likely an accident is to occur…
I'd rather have several motorcycle accidents, then have one single instance of a firearm discharging while pointed at that part of my body. That's not a reasonable comparison.
You get most stuff right. If a gun is too dangerous to point down the front of your legs, it's too dangerous to point down the sides or backs of your legs. Either the gun is safe and you can handle it safely, or it (or you) are not.
That makes sense if you're standing up. Sitting down 3 o'clock is going to be a lot safer. Also the outside of your thigh would be bad to get shot in, but not nearly as bad as the inner thigh where you have that arterie
@@AshGreen359 Not to mention having your dick shot off. Ever heard of a "dick prosthesis"? Me neither. Even if they DO make them, they could never be a suitable replacement.
Yes, know your weapon and Be Safe! You don´t carry Appendix in the military + ALL military issue weapons have a safety. Did you miss weapons training class?
@@markwarnberg9504SEALS as well as other SO units use the glock 19 and often carry appendix when performing non traditional combat roles like VIP protection.
Firearms malfunction, and that's a fact of life. I still vividly recall "Remington moments" with the M40, even though that's a rifle. At least when those moments happened, it was pointed downrange, with someone on glass, and not at someone's johnson. Look at that M17 POS the military contracted from Sig. We just want you to live a long happy life. Semper Fi
Exactly what I was going to say, and it was the first comment I read. The title should have said that fire striker pistols shouldn't be appendix carried.
Lmao… In other words, this entire video is just a hit piece on striker fired guns (external safety or not). In my opinion, folks need to understand these mechanisms down to the parts used. I’ve seen some extremely negligent and reckless behaviors with firearms even at the range. For example the other day, some black guy wearing flip flops shot the target clip off the hanger from 3 yards away and it struck the guide rail of the target belt and ricocheted. Everyone stopped and looked shocked as hell and I just kept ripping double taps on my target out at 15 yards lol
I have been carrying my Glock 19 Appendix for years, they are as safe as any gun to carry appendix as once you have a proper holster and your finger is off the trigger when you draw or reholster, you are as safe as any manual safety firearm. So the safety is really between your ears.
Been carrying my 365, 365 days a year, but mine has the SAFETY. Yes, train with it so taking off the safety during the draw is second nature. Gives me peace of mind. If you have ever taken apart your pistol and see how the striker is being held by those two little plastic cups, you may change your mind.
The thought of any gun, the tip of its barrel pointing at my junk and resting on it when I'm sitting down and appendix carry frightens the crap out of me.... Addendum: I do carry all the time inside the waistband but on my hip in about the 3:00 to 4:00 position.
It's called... a "holster". It covers the trigger, so it can't be pulled. I wouldn't conceal carry a P320 AIWB myself (not on a regular basis)... but I don't have a problem with it really. Millions people that carry them AIWB carry them and accidents are extremely rare, so it's not that dangerous statistically. When it comes to AIWB though, I recommend people Always reholster while the holster is off body. Then you don't have to worry about accidentally hitting the trigger while reholstering, which accounts for nearly 100% of all AIWB accidents. You take the holster off, then insert the gun... and then put the holster back on with the gun already holstered. It almost completely removes any risk. There's still the stupid people risk and the "broken gun" risk, where people either do really stupid things like dangerously modify the holster or gun and/or reassemble the gun incorrectly or damage the gun and continue to wear it. I'm not sure what could ever remove all those dangers though... but AIWB does increase the dangers in those situations, even if it's only 0.01% of all cases and isn't statistically significant.
Glock is so misunderstood. There are actually 3 safeties built into the Glock not just the trigger . Do your homework look it up . These are the facts . The Sig Sauer P365 is equipped with a variety of safety features to ensure safe handling. It features a striker block safety, a trigger safety, and a disconnector that prevents the gun from firing out of battery. These safety mechanisms make the P365 a reliable and safe choice for concealed carry. Remember just because you see it or hear from a RUclipsr doesn’t make it correct.
Same exact situation with the P320… I have a full sized P320, EDC appendix. Sig Mechanics actually posted a video 2 years ago illustrating this topic in detail. Pretty neat for anyone wondering. Edit: SIG addressed the one and only issue in the Gen 1 p320, the trigger weight would cause the trigger to depress if dropped at a very specific angle with a specific amount of force. They changed the trigger weight to resolve the issue. They went above and beyond and even added in a mechanical disconnect to prevent the striker from firing if out of battery, and furthermore redesigned the trigger safety. Literslly changed 3 things on the gun because of the drop safety issue, all other accounts of “gun going off on its own” are 100% user error 😅
I carried both Glock and Smith and Wesson 2.0 for years appendix. So unless you’re finger on the on the trigger drawing or holstering! Finger a long the frame until you’re ready to shoot!!
He’s basically saying all striker fire with no manual safety are dangerous. The most safe way to carry is don’t carry. Lock it in cable lock, put inside a lockbox and put the lockbox in a safe and after that put that safe in a bigger safe.
I hear the argument about appendix carry being dangerous a lot. But no one ever provides actual statistics that prove appendix carry is actually dangerous. So my question is how many people actually blow their balls off carrying appendix?
I’d add: carrying in an appropriate holster, not just shoved in the pants. I’m a paramedic, and I’ve seen a few negligent self-inflicted GSWs in that neighborhood. But there was never a holster, not even an Uncle Mike’s “universal” IWB.
@@cesars7860 I agree that stats can be manipulated and utilized irresponsibly but the other side to that is how can we say that something is dangerous without and data to back up the claim? Saying that you will blow your nuts off carrying appendix sounds scary, but how many times has that actually happened? And what were the circumstances behind those tragedies? My point is that without data the argument becomes very weak.
I thought you were supposed to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot? Who puts their finger on the trigger while holstering your weapon?
What about the Walthers and Caniks that have pre-cocked strikers? Wouldn't these -- with their even lighter trigger pulls -- be even riskier to carry that way?
If car seatbelts were optional, would you still choose to wear them?? By your logic, no one should wear seatbelts so long as they "learned" to properly use a vehicle.
The only thing that I carry in the appendix position is my cell phone; I get a tingly feeling every time I receive an incoming call. A firearm - no way. Totally agree with your list and the order in which each firearm is listed.
That's an excellent list! I appendix carry my folding knife, would never appendix carry any gun. I'm looking into a cross-draw holster for those 'carjacking possible' days (driving around in Tacoma for example).
started carrying appendix because strong side was causing pain in my hips. (getting old su cks). Took some getting used to but really not bad at all. My 365xl spent 6k miles off road riding in my tank bag. If it doesn't go off banged around on a dirt bike, not worried it will discharge in my pants.
Yankee, you make a compelling argument... how can you NOT consider where the muzzle of a striker-fired pistol is pointing when carrying appendix. A bullet to the femoral artery is more likely than not to result in death. I wonder, though, if there are any stats out there that show the frequency that people blow their junk off and/or put a hole in their femoral artery. Safety or NO safety, pistols only fire when the trigger is pulled. Once holstered (assuming the holster covers the trigger guard and it's from a trusted and reputable brand) the pistol cannot shoot. So the only moments you can have a negligent discharge towards your junk is on the way into and out of the holster, which is precisely when you should be MOST aware of the danger of inadvertently grabbing that trigger.
@@DieselRamcharger With a striker control device installed, put your thumb on it and the trigger can't be pulled. No trigger pull no ND. Or you can just keep saying dumb shit.
fuzzy feelings are not safe. It should give you a cold dark feeling, and no matter what you're holstering where, keep the muzzle safe until it's fully home.
Hi Yankee ~ I’ve been watching you for what feels like 5yrs, but like waiting in line for life saving medicine feels long, I may be wrong. But I fully agree with you thoughts on carry+strikerW/Omanual safety I too find the 92/96FS ideal but I’m not as smart as you. I sold my favorite guns due to divorce. Sadly I chose a couple of great guns to fill in (G26 and G19X). Stupid me. Lots of shots thru all sorts of fire systems but not a striker fired with no safety. Keeping my Glock set up’s but going back to Beretta for carry. You are the only soldier fighting this battle but I’m on your side in San Antonio.
Totally agree, on Shield Plus with safty mechanism, the grip is kind short for feeling comfortable when drowing, unlocking small safty, and stupidly finding the trigger in the way.
I still wouldn’t carry it appendix but probably the safest striker fired polymer handgun to do so would be the Walther P99. DA/SA with the Anti-Stress trigger and a striker decocker.
I do find this video and commentary interesting. I alternate between a Glock 19 Generation 5 and Shield Plus without a manual safety on each and I’ve never had any issues with appendix carry, however I use a good holster that covers the trigger guard and as long as the bang switch is covered and protected it will not go bang unless you manipulate it with your booger hook. I also do not unholster for any needless reason.
Yankee what do you think about a Kahr PM9 how does it stack up in this in appendix carry talk? I don't appendix carry or in the small of my back either! I have been carrying a gun since 74 either in a shoulder holster or on my side at about 3 o'clock! I just value your opinion, so when I talk to friends and other people about how to carry a gun! Thank You, Joe
Why are you making a big deal about these guns? Who cares if it has a safety or not? The gun won't fire when it's in the holster, and no one should be holstering the gun after the holster is in their pants. No reason to take it out unless you're practicing at the range, and even still you don't need to holster it live. I can easily see an idiot drop the safety (or never engage it to begin with). It's not the gun, it's the user.
@@JoeWinter-ky8xo What a stupid comment. There's absolutely no reason to train on quickly re-holstering. That's where you're going to have an accident. You train to get the gun out and on target quickly, not to put it away.
Because there’s a lot of careless people online who out out bs to look cool. Also, a lot of uneducated people. I’m assuming people like us actually know our firearms, research them, become familiar with them, and know how they should be handled. Of course I’m more careful with all of my guns, striker fired or not. But I’m an enthusiast, and I also still respect them as deadly weapons despite my high comfort level with them. I dont let that make me less responsible or careful. Then there are those who think “hmmf! I’ve been a gun owner for years! Nothing bad can ever happen and if it does it’s not my fault!” Lol To be real, a lot of people IK who own guns barely know anything about them and I typically have to educate them. And to be fair, I’m on the spectrum and guns are one of my “special interests” so I tend to learn anything and everything about them by default, but it still boggles my mind how you could own firearms and NOT educate yourself. To me it’s like buying a helicopter and knowing nothing about them. Of course you’re likely to hurt or kill yourself or someone else due to ignorance. I dont think he’s making a big deal as he’s saying the obvious for people who aren’t really gun people.
@@0zmoseyou can train on reholstering. Just make sure the gun is clear. That said, there’s no reason not to remove your AIWB holster to reholster the weapon and then put the whole rig back on your belt.
My Ruger Max 9 has a manual safety for re-holstering. Being left handed makes it easy to pull off after it is holstered. Besides, what if you don't have a Worried Willy? 🤣
*Risk* is *Probability* multiplied by *Impact* . The *impact* of having an ND while carrying appendix is unquestionably higher. The *probability* of having an ND while carrying appendix is lower, because you have vastly more control and visibility into the situation. You can even take the holster out, insert the gun, and put the holster back in, if the conditions are difficult. And that is before we even start discussing the actual defensive use of a gun.
Why is your opinion about what’s not safe something we should care about? We’re all adults here, we can make our own choices. I’ve appendix carried since the 1970s, safety is not just a dingus on a firearm.
Great post. I would add the Ruger LCP MAX to the list. I own one and use a trigger block that can be pushed out quickly which is not ideal... Been thinking about selling it or getting a good owb hip holster 😮🤔
Single action semi autos are inherently less safe. It is almost impossible to accidentally fire de-cocked DA/SA or DAO guns. I sold my P320, because I believe they are going off in holsters.
The best thing about this video is how the Hopeful hairy pic represents you! If you know guns and how to carry and be safe with them then you can carry any way you want. Only Idiots will shoot their Dingy off. I can`t remember the last time I saw a story about someone some intelligent gun owner shooting their thing off.
Most pull the trigger while reholstering, not by their finger, but by a piece of cloth or something snagging the trigger. Otherwise, it's no more dangerous than any other carry method (assuming your gun and holster are both in safe, working condition). To reduce the risk though, you just have to take the holster off to reholster the gun. Then reinstall the holster with the gun in it, so there is no chance of the trigger being pulled as it's pushed into the holster. With the holster off-body and in front of you while you reholster, you can make sure it's not pointed anywhere unsafe and can make sure nothing snags the trigger on accident. AIWB is actually the single most common carry position in the country, especially if you don't count cops, but just the average person. It's the easiest way to conceal a firearm without printing. I personally could not carry any other way without it being obvious. Not even a hoodie can conceal strong side OWB or IWB for me... and carrying on my back (4-8 o-clock) is even worse. I've never tried the deep conceal methods like "Urban Carry" though, so I'm not sure if they're any good. Some people LOVE them and swear by them while other people hate them and warn people against them (not because they're dangerous or anything, but because they don't conceal well).
Well said, I have been carrying appendix for years with a variety of guns and haven't had a single issue, because you just have to follow fairly basic safety protocols. Mostly making sure nothing is getting in the trigger guard.
So would I assume the Hellcat Pro which is at 5.5? Springfield boasts of 2 internal safeties that work with trigger guard Any comedy since I just bought one
This is what you get when you seek advice on AIWB from someone who doesn't AIWB: a load of BS. Look how people with real experience carry and teach and relax.
Every hand gun I have ever owned has had no safety. In my personal opinion, a safety on an EDC is like not having one in the chamber the P320 after AFTER the voluntary recall are safe, and yes, as you said, 95% are user error. Actually I would feel strange to carry a gun. With a safety but training will have to be done that being said I fell safe with a gun with no safety, even with the revised p320. So what is your EDC 🤔
Yankee I’m the proud owner of. Px4 Storm compact, but it came with the manual safety converted to a straight decocker with slim levers. Good thing it’s da/sa but what you think?
I carry my PX4 Storm collection, along with my 92FS, decocked, manual safety off....it has a longer, heavier pull than all of these striker fires. None of my striker fires have manual safety. Learn how to keep your finger off trigger, and you will be good
I hate Appendix Carry. I tried it with my shield plus but I always had a bad feeling. But I did get a cz p07 decocker only, and I now carry appendix and feel a lot better about it. Cause I have that long da pull, and I put my thumb on the hammer while inserting.
A certain gun did not make it on this list. I feel better about that as I know someone that uses that particular side arm. The Sig P320 is not safe to carry in any configuration. That gun is well documented to fire while holstered all by itself.
Personally, I choose NOT to appendix-carry because it violates one of the basic rules of firearms safety: "Never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy". I'm more of a 3, 4 or 5 o'clock kind of guy, and sometimes pocket carry with a proper holster. Just my personal preference.
I worked with a kid who had a Glock and carried it in an appendix postion, but without a holster! He had a belt clip attachment that fastened to the slide. I would point out the dangers in how he carried it, especially without a holster. But like most young men, he knew better. I hope that with age, he develops some wisdom!
I agree... but despite the countless millions of people that carry exactly like him, there still aren't very many accidental shootings (of them shooting themselves while the gun is in their pants). If it was such a dangerous way of carrying, you'd think we'd be hearing about people shooting themselves in the groin on a daily basis, or at least a regular basis. Even if it's not as unsafe as people make it out to be, I still think it's negligent to carry a striker fired gun without a holster. I know people that carry DAO guns with similar clips and I don't see the problem with that. I'd never put one on a Glock, but if I had a gun with a long, heavy DAO trigger, I would feel perfectly safe having a true DOA like that.
I carry ONLY...ONLY...DA/SA or DAO _hammer fired_ handguns. Nothing else will EVER be loaded and attached to my body. I prefer they have NO safety...and none is needed with a DAO semi-auto or revolver. I also don't appendix carry. My handguns are dangerous to anyone assaulting me, not to myself. My current primary carry lineup: S&W Model 3914 DAO, S&W Model 642, S&W M&P .380 Bodyguard. Which I carry depends on my wardrobe and planned activities for the day. Also carried sometimes: S&W Model 19, 2-1/2" barrel and SIG P228. No safeties on any of them. The SIG has a hammer drop feature.
Make it a short list don’t appendix carry anything other than a DAO, or a DA/SA. People don’t realize striker fired pistols are in condition one, most with no manual safeties. I am fine carrying a partially charged striker, like a Glock or a Kahr, but that’s about the only 2 striker fired pistols I would carry appendix. Reholstering is done outside of the waistband, then put it back once holstered. Or just carry a Beretta 92, or a PX4. Any of those striker fired pistols could go off. I remember a video of a guy shooting him self with a 1911. Ask him how he liked being shot in the leg. They can discharge anywhere.
I'm a Glocktard. I install the Langdon Tactical Technologies Striker Control Device (SCD) on all my Glocks. It makes the weapon safer to handle e.g. holstering.
There's a 99% chance you will never see a gun fight. Within that 1%, 86% result in no shots fired. Within the 14% of that 1% chance, 90% will see less than 2 shots fired. So, you are more likely to win the lottery than to ever need more that 2 rds.
Hey Yankee, how about people just don't put their finger on the trigger at all when they're drawing it. Maybe you make ND's all the time when you're drawing but that doesn't mean everybody else does
I would like to introduce the new fad that all the cool cat tactical operators will be doing in 2025. It’s called the barrel up neck pistol. We’ve all heard of the neck knife. Well this is the neck gun.
lol. I've seen those. Have even seen them for SAO revolvers that have a history of going off when dropped (on the hammer)... so if you bend down and the revolver flips out and hist something on its hammer (which is literally the most likely place to hit in that orientation) you'll possibly shoot yourself in the head. I think there are unsafe ways to carry... but I don't think AIWB is unsafe just by itself. There's ALWAYS some other factor that causes a person to shoot his/her self. Always. I always recommend people that AIWB to just take the holster of to reholster. That way there's no chance of shooting yourself. You can make sure nothing snags the trigger as it's inserted and can make sure it's pointed in a safe direction.
Appendix carry risk is like riding a motorcycle. Your personal risk varies insanely depending on how careful or careless you are
@@nikos6220 amen
I don't know about that comparison. I was friends with someone who taught motorcycle lessons as a job and he's been hospitalized twice for motorcycle accidents. The fact is, you aren't always going to be operating at 100% all the time and sometimes stuff happens beyond your control.
@@CoolGuyAtlas just because he taught a class doesn’t say anything about his careful/carelessness. I’ve been riding motorcycles myself for about 30 years without a single accident aside from laying it down a couple times while learning. Yes, the old saying “shit happens” applies equally in both scenarios but the point stands that the more careful and deliberate you are, the less likely an accident is to occur…
Don't be silly. Riding motorcycles is infinitely more dangerous than any gun handling. I question my decision making everytime I go back to riding LOL
I'd rather have several motorcycle accidents, then have one single instance of a firearm discharging while pointed at that part of my body. That's not a reasonable comparison.
You get most stuff right.
If a gun is too dangerous to point down the front of your legs, it's too dangerous to point down the sides or backs of your legs. Either the gun is safe and you can handle it safely, or it (or you) are not.
That makes sense if you're standing up. Sitting down 3 o'clock is going to be a lot safer.
Also the outside of your thigh would be bad to get shot in, but not nearly as bad as the inner thigh where you have that arterie
@@AshGreen359 Not to mention having your dick shot off. Ever heard of a "dick prosthesis"? Me neither. Even if they DO make them, they could never be a suitable replacement.
Xlnt point!
Carry my Glock appendix and no worry about it .Know your weapon as we use to say in the Marines
Yes, know your weapon and Be Safe!
You don´t carry Appendix in the military + ALL military issue weapons have a safety.
Did you miss weapons training class?
@@markwarnberg9504SEALS as well as other SO units use the glock 19 and often carry appendix when performing non traditional combat roles like VIP protection.
Firearms malfunction, and that's a fact of life. I still vividly recall "Remington moments" with the M40, even though that's a rifle. At least when those moments happened, it was pointed downrange, with someone on glass, and not at someone's johnson. Look at that M17 POS the military contracted from Sig. We just want you to live a long happy life.
Semper Fi
@@bigdopamine9343 I hope they have the sense not to carry them loaded.
In other words, any striker fired gun without a safety.
🤣🤣🤣
🐒🐒🐒 You are a goddamn genius; mama's so proud.
Aka, the perfect gun for appendix carry
Exactly what I was going to say, and it was the first comment I read. The title should have said that fire striker pistols shouldn't be appendix carried.
Lmao… In other words, this entire video is just a hit piece on striker fired guns (external safety or not). In my opinion, folks need to understand these mechanisms down to the parts used. I’ve seen some extremely negligent and reckless behaviors with firearms even at the range. For example the other day, some black guy wearing flip flops shot the target clip off the hanger from 3 yards away and it struck the guide rail of the target belt and ricocheted. Everyone stopped and looked shocked as hell and I just kept ripping double taps on my target out at 15 yards lol
I have been carrying my Glock 19 Appendix for years, they are as safe as any gun to carry appendix as once you have a proper holster and your finger is off the trigger when you draw or reholster, you are as safe as any manual safety firearm. So the safety is really between your ears.
Amen brother… guns don’t fire unless you pull the trigger…
Somehow with all the stupid things I've done in my life sticking a pistol down my pants is not on the list, go figure...
Been carrying my 365, 365 days a year, but mine has the SAFETY. Yes, train with it so taking off the safety during the draw is second nature. Gives me peace of mind. If you have ever taken apart your pistol and see how the striker is being held by those two little plastic cups, you may change your mind.
p320 full size… appendix carry every day… nothing to worry about mate, gun only goes off if you pull the trigger.
Btw what i was taught if you EDC appendix is chamber a round, holster it OFF BODY, and then attach the holster to beltline
The thought of any gun, the tip of its barrel pointing at my junk and resting on it when I'm sitting down and appendix carry frightens the crap out of me....
Addendum: I do carry all the time inside the waistband but on my hip in about the 3:00 to 4:00 position.
If we tell everyone that guns don’t go off unless you pull the trigger then why back down now?
@@x.adam1 the real stupid people are those believe only stupid people make mistakes
It's called... a "holster". It covers the trigger, so it can't be pulled. I wouldn't conceal carry a P320 AIWB myself (not on a regular basis)... but I don't have a problem with it really. Millions people that carry them AIWB carry them and accidents are extremely rare, so it's not that dangerous statistically. When it comes to AIWB though, I recommend people Always reholster while the holster is off body. Then you don't have to worry about accidentally hitting the trigger while reholstering, which accounts for nearly 100% of all AIWB accidents. You take the holster off, then insert the gun... and then put the holster back on with the gun already holstered. It almost completely removes any risk. There's still the stupid people risk and the "broken gun" risk, where people either do really stupid things like dangerously modify the holster or gun and/or reassemble the gun incorrectly or damage the gun and continue to wear it. I'm not sure what could ever remove all those dangers though... but AIWB does increase the dangers in those situations, even if it's only 0.01% of all cases and isn't statistically significant.
Lol
I had a horrifying thought while watching this: Yank is going to show us Worried Willie five more times.
Glock is so misunderstood. There are actually 3 safeties built into the Glock not just the trigger . Do your homework look it up . These are the facts . The Sig Sauer P365 is equipped with a variety of safety features to ensure safe handling. It features a striker block safety, a trigger safety, and a disconnector that prevents the gun from firing out of battery. These safety mechanisms make the P365 a reliable and safe choice for concealed carry. Remember just because you see it or hear from a RUclipsr doesn’t make it correct.
Same exact situation with the P320… I have a full sized P320, EDC appendix. Sig Mechanics actually posted a video 2 years ago illustrating this topic in detail. Pretty neat for anyone wondering.
Edit: SIG addressed the one and only issue in the Gen 1 p320, the trigger weight would cause the trigger to depress if dropped at a very specific angle with a specific amount of force. They changed the trigger weight to resolve the issue. They went above and beyond and even added in a mechanical disconnect to prevent the striker from firing if out of battery, and furthermore redesigned the trigger safety. Literslly changed 3 things on the gun because of the drop safety issue, all other accounts of “gun going off on its own” are 100% user error 😅
The glock has 3 internal safety mechanisms. I carry AIWB in my enigma daily and have no worries about it firing while holstered.
I carried both Glock and Smith and Wesson 2.0 for years appendix. So unless you’re finger on the on the trigger drawing or holstering! Finger a long the frame until you’re ready to shoot!!
He’s basically saying all striker fire with no manual safety are dangerous. The most safe way to carry is don’t carry. Lock it in cable lock, put inside a lockbox and put the lockbox in a safe and after that put that safe in a bigger safe.
Lmao
I was surprised when I found out that anyone made guns without a manual safety.
Points for pissing off both Sig and Glock groupies 😂
Not really. It only offends those who appendix carry.
Calling people "groupies" for liking 2 very good brands says more about you than about them.
Your pick of a Glock won’t make anyone angry because it was expected. If you made a top 10 worst weed whacker video, Glock would be on the list ha ha.
@@danielclemens4509 Glock with a switch and a drum is actually the most fun weed wacker you’ll find.
@@danielclemens4509 💯
I added striker control devices to all my glocks. Adds another level of safety.
I hear the argument about appendix carry being dangerous a lot. But no one ever provides actual statistics that prove appendix carry is actually dangerous. So my question is how many people actually blow their balls off carrying appendix?
I’d add: carrying in an appropriate holster, not just shoved in the pants.
I’m a paramedic, and I’ve seen a few negligent self-inflicted GSWs in that neighborhood. But there was never a holster, not even an Uncle Mike’s “universal” IWB.
Don't get hung up on statistics my man. They can be manipulated to support an argument.
@@cesars7860 I agree that stats can be manipulated and utilized irresponsibly but the other side to that is how can we say that something is dangerous without and data to back up the claim? Saying that you will blow your nuts off carrying appendix sounds scary, but how many times has that actually happened? And what were the circumstances behind those tragedies? My point is that without data the argument becomes very weak.
because it's a made-up problem to drive YT "engagement". TV has bad news, YT content makers have pet peeves.
Go to a firearms training class… Hell, even in basic training 😂
I thought you were supposed to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot? Who puts their finger on the trigger while holstering your weapon?
Well I carry GLOCK 22 40SW IWB I don't fear it a bit. You just need to be careful. COME ON MAN
What about the Walthers and Caniks that have pre-cocked strikers? Wouldn't these -- with their even lighter trigger pulls -- be even riskier to carry that way?
learn to use a firearm and this won't be a problem.
Under stress things change a ton
You are not smart
@@dougsmith2658that's where training comes in.
If car seatbelts were optional, would you still choose to wear them?? By your logic, no one should wear seatbelts so long as they "learned" to properly use a vehicle.
The only thing that I carry in the appendix position is my cell phone; I get a tingly feeling every time I receive an incoming call. A firearm - no way. Totally agree with your list and the order in which each firearm is listed.
That's an excellent list! I appendix carry my folding knife, would never appendix carry any gun. I'm looking into a cross-draw holster for those 'carjacking possible' days (driving around in Tacoma for example).
started carrying appendix because strong side was causing pain in my hips. (getting old su cks). Took some getting used to but really not bad at all. My 365xl spent 6k miles off road riding in my tank bag. If it doesn't go off banged around on a dirt bike, not worried it will discharge in my pants.
Yankee, you make a compelling argument... how can you NOT consider where the muzzle of a striker-fired pistol is pointing when carrying appendix. A bullet to the femoral artery is more likely than not to result in death. I wonder, though, if there are any stats out there that show the frequency that people blow their junk off and/or put a hole in their femoral artery. Safety or NO safety, pistols only fire when the trigger is pulled. Once holstered (assuming the holster covers the trigger guard and it's from a trusted and reputable brand) the pistol cannot shoot. So the only moments you can have a negligent discharge towards your junk is on the way into and out of the holster, which is precisely when you should be MOST aware of the danger of inadvertently grabbing that trigger.
I say you're on point with the choices you made, great content!
Thanks for the safety message
You are 100% correct.
whoever came up with the Worried Willie graphic deserves a raise.
Striker control device on a Glock can give a nice warm fuzzy holstering it and make it a lot more like carrying a DA/SA pistol.
lmao no. glocks are the ND world champs.
@@DieselRamcharger 🤣🤣🤣 thank you I’m going to use this from now on Negligent Discharge Award 🥇 with P365 a close runner up
@@DieselRamcharger With a striker control device installed, put your thumb on it and the trigger can't be pulled. No trigger pull no ND. Or you can just keep saying dumb shit.
@@aricwormsbecher2138 Excellent device. I have them on all my Glocks.
fuzzy feelings are not safe. It should give you a cold dark feeling, and no matter what you're holstering where, keep the muzzle safe until it's fully home.
I am glad my M&p 2.0 has a thumb safety. LOL
Great choice!
I think this is a great list and I would agree. thanks for sharing.
Hi Yankee ~ I’ve been watching you for what feels like 5yrs, but like waiting in line for life saving medicine feels long, I may be wrong.
But I fully agree with you thoughts on carry+strikerW/Omanual safety
I too find the 92/96FS ideal but I’m not as smart as you. I sold my favorite guns due to divorce. Sadly I chose a couple of great guns to fill in (G26 and G19X).
Stupid me. Lots of shots thru all sorts of fire systems but not a striker fired with no safety. Keeping my Glock set up’s but going back to Beretta for carry.
You are the only soldier fighting this battle but I’m on your side in San Antonio.
Get a cross carry holster. Fast draw like appendix and safer for Wiillie
Walther PPQ and PDP too. Thanks for the great video as always Yank!!!
Saw the guy in a hospital who shot his leg trying to holster his gun. It was 9mm Glock, I never asked about model. Likely compact or subcompact.
Totally agree, on Shield Plus with safty mechanism, the grip is kind short for feeling comfortable when drowing, unlocking small safty, and stupidly finding the trigger in the way.
I would never carry any striker fired Sig, with or without out a manual safety, in any manner, after what happened with the M17.
I agree
People shoot themselves with double action guns carrying on the hip
Oh man that scared "willie" art is fantastic 😂
So basically its ALL striker fired pistols
I still wouldn’t carry it appendix but probably the safest striker fired polymer handgun to do so would be the Walther P99. DA/SA with the Anti-Stress trigger and a striker decocker.
I do find this video and commentary interesting. I alternate between a Glock 19 Generation 5 and Shield Plus without a manual safety on each and I’ve never had any issues with appendix carry, however I use a good holster that covers the trigger guard and as long as the bang switch is covered and protected it will not go bang unless you manipulate it with your booger hook. I also do not unholster for any needless reason.
MP? Idk man, i feel like its been perfect for me
Love the P365xl, but couldn't get comfortable with iwb carry.
Been doing it since it came out
IWB just hurts.
OWB appendix can be very comfortable, with the right shirt. But people will think you're pretty weird and scary if the wind blows.
Thanks!
Youve convinced me. I was going to get a Glock 26 but am now having second thoughts.
Yankee what do you think about a Kahr PM9 how does it stack up in this in appendix carry talk? I don't appendix carry or in the small of my back either! I have been carrying a gun since 74 either in a shoulder holster or on my side at about 3 o'clock! I just value your opinion, so when I talk to friends and other people about how to carry a gun! Thank You, Joe
Why are you making a big deal about these guns? Who cares if it has a safety or not? The gun won't fire when it's in the holster, and no one should be holstering the gun after the holster is in their pants. No reason to take it out unless you're practicing at the range, and even still you don't need to holster it live. I can easily see an idiot drop the safety (or never engage it to begin with). It's not the gun, it's the user.
You have never trained
@@JoeWinter-ky8xo What a stupid comment. There's absolutely no reason to train on quickly re-holstering. That's where you're going to have an accident. You train to get the gun out and on target quickly, not to put it away.
Because there’s a lot of careless people online who out out bs to look cool. Also, a lot of uneducated people. I’m assuming people like us actually know our firearms, research them, become familiar with them, and know how they should be handled. Of course I’m more careful with all of my guns, striker fired or not. But I’m an enthusiast, and I also still respect them as deadly weapons despite my high comfort level with them. I dont let that make me less responsible or careful. Then there are those who think “hmmf! I’ve been a gun owner for years! Nothing bad can ever happen and if it does it’s not my fault!” Lol To be real, a lot of people IK who own guns barely know anything about them and I typically have to educate them. And to be fair, I’m on the spectrum and guns are one of my “special interests” so I tend to learn anything and everything about them by default, but it still boggles my mind how you could own firearms and NOT educate yourself. To me it’s like buying a helicopter and knowing nothing about them. Of course you’re likely to hurt or kill yourself or someone else due to ignorance. I dont think he’s making a big deal as he’s saying the obvious for people who aren’t really gun people.
@@0zmoseyou can train on reholstering. Just make sure the gun is clear. That said, there’s no reason not to remove your AIWB holster to reholster the weapon and then put the whole rig back on your belt.
My Ruger Max 9 has a manual safety for re-holstering. Being left handed makes it easy to pull off after it is holstered. Besides, what if you don't have a Worried Willy? 🤣
I carry cz p07 aiwb 90-95% of the time. Now and then in what short winter we do get i carry a ppq strongside.
Been carrying for over 50 years and never in the appendix position.
He's right.
*Risk* is *Probability* multiplied by *Impact* .
The *impact* of having an ND while carrying appendix is unquestionably higher. The *probability* of having an ND while carrying appendix is lower, because you have vastly more control and visibility into the situation.
You can even take the holster out, insert the gun, and put the holster back in, if the conditions are difficult.
And that is before we even start discussing the actual defensive use of a gun.
You are correct
Why is your opinion about what’s not safe something we should care about? We’re all adults here, we can make our own choices. I’ve appendix carried since the 1970s, safety is not just a dingus on a firearm.
If I were to carry AIWB (I don't), the FIRST requirement would be a thumb safety. Most (not all) of my IWB 4 o'clockers have a thumb safety.
Great post. I would add the Ruger LCP MAX to the list. I own one and use a trigger block that can be pushed out quickly which is not ideal... Been thinking about selling it or getting a good owb hip holster 😮🤔
The CZ made me think about the Walther PDP. Super light trigger for a striker fire.
Single action semi autos are inherently less safe. It is almost impossible to accidentally fire de-cocked DA/SA or DAO guns. I sold my P320, because I believe they are going off in holsters.
Which is your favorite decocker ?
The best thing about this video is how the Hopeful hairy pic represents you! If you know guns and how to carry and be safe with them then you can carry any way you want. Only Idiots will shoot their Dingy off. I can`t remember the last time I saw a story about someone some intelligent gun owner shooting their thing off.
Only RUclipsrs do that tacti-tard stuff. And if you’re pulling the trigger as you draw it’s your fault not any make or model of a gun.
Most pull the trigger while reholstering, not by their finger, but by a piece of cloth or something snagging the trigger. Otherwise, it's no more dangerous than any other carry method (assuming your gun and holster are both in safe, working condition). To reduce the risk though, you just have to take the holster off to reholster the gun. Then reinstall the holster with the gun in it, so there is no chance of the trigger being pulled as it's pushed into the holster. With the holster off-body and in front of you while you reholster, you can make sure it's not pointed anywhere unsafe and can make sure nothing snags the trigger on accident.
AIWB is actually the single most common carry position in the country, especially if you don't count cops, but just the average person. It's the easiest way to conceal a firearm without printing. I personally could not carry any other way without it being obvious. Not even a hoodie can conceal strong side OWB or IWB for me... and carrying on my back (4-8 o-clock) is even worse. I've never tried the deep conceal methods like "Urban Carry" though, so I'm not sure if they're any good. Some people LOVE them and swear by them while other people hate them and warn people against them (not because they're dangerous or anything, but because they don't conceal well).
Well said, I have been carrying appendix for years with a variety of guns and haven't had a single issue, because you just have to follow fairly basic safety protocols.
Mostly making sure nothing is getting in the trigger guard.
So would I assume the Hellcat Pro which is at 5.5? Springfield boasts of 2 internal safeties that work with trigger guard
Any comedy since I just bought one
Carry 2,3,4 o’clock. Sub-compact/compact. Love the 19 and 29 to much.
This is what you get when you seek advice on AIWB from someone who doesn't AIWB: a load of BS. Look how people with real experience carry and teach and relax.
Thought you would go with Walther
I don't do "two-finger panty pistols", so I'm good.
Every hand gun I have ever owned has had no safety. In my personal opinion, a safety on an EDC is like not having one in the chamber the P320 after AFTER the voluntary recall are safe, and yes, as you said, 95% are user error. Actually I would feel strange to carry a gun. With a safety but training will have to be done that being said I fell safe with a gun with no safety, even with the revised p320. So what is your EDC 🤔
Yankee I’m the proud owner of. Px4 Storm compact, but it came with the manual safety converted to a straight decocker with slim levers. Good thing it’s da/sa but what you think?
I carry my PX4 Storm collection, along with my 92FS, decocked, manual safety off....it has a longer, heavier pull than all of these striker fires. None of my striker fires have manual safety. Learn how to keep your finger off trigger, and you will be good
I hate Appendix Carry. I tried it with my shield plus but I always had a bad feeling. But I did get a cz p07 decocker only, and I now carry appendix and feel a lot better about it. Cause I have that long da pull, and I put my thumb on the hammer while inserting.
I had a duty carry ordered a NY trigger Glock 22 holster carry only.
A certain gun did not make it on this list. I feel better about that as I know someone that uses that particular side arm. The Sig P320 is not safe to carry in any configuration. That gun is well documented to fire while holstered all by itself.
I don't disagree with you, sir. I usually carry in that position a Walther CCP, Beretta PX4 COMPACT, RUGER SP101 357. 10:24
Because of the de coaker i will carry the p226 sig its long trigger pull double action is safe hammar dropped
YM video? Yeah..another opportunity to listen to YM bash Glocks…. Pass….
Personally, I choose NOT to appendix-carry because it violates one of the basic rules of firearms safety: "Never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy". I'm more of a 3, 4 or 5 o'clock kind of guy, and sometimes pocket carry with a proper holster. Just my personal preference.
It's not made anymore, but the Walther PPQ would have to be up there with the 320, too.
I worked with a kid who had a Glock and carried it in an appendix postion, but without a holster! He had a belt clip attachment that fastened to the slide.
I would point out the dangers in how he carried it, especially without a holster. But like most young men, he knew better. I hope that with age, he develops some wisdom!
I agree... but despite the countless millions of people that carry exactly like him, there still aren't very many accidental shootings (of them shooting themselves while the gun is in their pants). If it was such a dangerous way of carrying, you'd think we'd be hearing about people shooting themselves in the groin on a daily basis, or at least a regular basis. Even if it's not as unsafe as people make it out to be, I still think it's negligent to carry a striker fired gun without a holster. I know people that carry DAO guns with similar clips and I don't see the problem with that. I'd never put one on a Glock, but if I had a gun with a long, heavy DAO trigger, I would feel perfectly safe having a true DOA like that.
I carry ONLY...ONLY...DA/SA or DAO _hammer fired_ handguns. Nothing else will EVER be loaded and attached to my body. I prefer they have NO safety...and none is needed with a DAO semi-auto or revolver.
I also don't appendix carry. My handguns are dangerous to anyone assaulting me, not to myself.
My current primary carry lineup: S&W Model 3914 DAO, S&W Model 642, S&W M&P .380 Bodyguard. Which I carry depends on my wardrobe and planned activities for the day.
Also carried sometimes: S&W Model 19, 2-1/2" barrel and SIG P228. No safeties on any of them. The SIG has a hammer drop feature.
Make it a short list don’t appendix carry anything other than a DAO, or a DA/SA.
People don’t realize striker fired pistols are in condition one, most with no manual safeties.
I am fine carrying a partially charged striker, like a Glock or a Kahr, but that’s about the only 2 striker fired pistols I would carry appendix. Reholstering is done outside of the waistband, then put it back once holstered.
Or just carry a Beretta 92, or a PX4.
Any of those striker fired pistols could go off. I remember a video of a guy shooting him self with a 1911. Ask him how he liked being shot in the leg. They can discharge anywhere.
I'm a Glocktard. I install the Langdon Tactical Technologies Striker Control Device (SCD) on all my Glocks. It makes the weapon safer to handle e.g. holstering.
Only ONE firearm is safe for appendix carry, and that is any revolver with a 16" barrel, a.k.a., "The Bypass Barrel".
I wouldn't mind appendix carrying an extra mag.
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For me these guns are safe for appendix carry if you don't have a round in a chamber 😂
Sir, Do you consider the Taurus G series(2, 3 and 4) safe for appendix carry? Thanks, Blsgs, gg
HAHAHAHA!!! “Don’t carry a Glock IWB appendix because you might shoot your junk off.” The most absurd thing this channel has ever pointed out.
Like I want to worry about a safety when I have to pull out my gun for self defense....you just need more training on how to use a gun.
The sig p365 is at least easy to add the safety to it. I added it to mine
Schweaty Balls! 😅
Appendix carry? Who wants a loaded gun pointed at the family jewels? 😂😂😂Not very bright!
My understanding is you can get a Glock fitted with a manual safety for no cost. Does this take it off the list???
There's a 99% chance you will never see a gun fight.
Within that 1%, 86% result in no shots fired.
Within the 14% of that 1% chance, 90% will see less than 2 shots fired.
So, you are more likely to win the lottery than to ever need more that 2 rds.
So you just carry a 2 shot derringer 😂
Syiker fired and no safety carrying apendix is the best method to conceal carry especially if you want to be first to put rounds on target.
In before the hurt feelings! 😅
Hey Yankee, how about people just don't put their finger on the trigger at all when they're drawing it. Maybe you make ND's all the time when you're drawing but that doesn't mean everybody else does
I would like to introduce the new fad that all the cool cat tactical operators will be doing in 2025. It’s called the barrel up neck pistol. We’ve all heard of the neck knife. Well this is the neck gun.
lol. I've seen those. Have even seen them for SAO revolvers that have a history of going off when dropped (on the hammer)... so if you bend down and the revolver flips out and hist something on its hammer (which is literally the most likely place to hit in that orientation) you'll possibly shoot yourself in the head. I think there are unsafe ways to carry... but I don't think AIWB is unsafe just by itself. There's ALWAYS some other factor that causes a person to shoot his/her self. Always.
I always recommend people that AIWB to just take the holster of to reholster. That way there's no chance of shooting yourself. You can make sure nothing snags the trigger as it's inserted and can make sure it's pointed in a safe direction.