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The series does not go into Clarissa Mao's backstory as much as the books, which tell us that she spent several months establishing Melba Koh as an identity and used what personal funds she had access to after the UN froze/seized all of the Mao/Kwinkowski assets to get herself on a tech crew going to the Ring as an Apprentice (explaining her low level of expertise). So Clarissa Mao went from being wealthy to being destitute. Since James Holden is touted as the "hero of the Solar System," he has become the easily identifiable focus of her rage at the loss of her family and home. Also, pay attention to when Clarissa tells her father that she could take Julie's place and pilot the Razorback because that speaks to the level of technical expertise that she possesses.
Yes, and I think this is when it got cancelled the first time. They didn't think there would be more than 3 seasons so they crammed in to wrap it up. Love the series, but expanding the Protogen arc to end of this season, and s4 being the ring storyline would have been awesome. Although Ashford is an awesome character in this vs the book.
sorry, but when i first heard her called melba, i thought of that one seinfeld episode. 😄
anyhoo, i really got to read those books.
@@BCPvideo "they crammed in to wrap it up" - Incorrect. If you think about it a bit more, you should easily realize that it doesn't make sense, because season 3 was planned, written, and filmed way before anyone knew that SyFy wouldn't continue to license the show. There's an Entertainment Weekly interview with showrunner Naren Shankar where he explains why they adapted book three in just 7 episodes. One of the books' authors, Daniel Abraham, even once suggested that they could skip book 3 entirely!
Just to remind everyone of the timeline, SyFy announced the "cancellation" May 10th, 2018, after broadcast of S03E05 "Triple Point". And already 16 days later, on May 26th, 2018, it was announced that Amazon would be picking up the show. I put "cancellation" in quotes because the show belongs to Alcon Entertainment, not SyFy and not Amazon. To quote one of Alcon's CEOs (from an interview with Variety): "Unlike the way that it's phrased, which I've always had an issue with, in the press, they [SyFy] didn't cancel the show, because they couldn't cancel the show, we own the show, it's ours. They couldn't cancel our show. What they did, to be very specific, is they elected not to continue to license the show for their rights based upon the contract we had."
The subtext of the Mao subplot is that she's nearly as or just as capable as Julie was, but was entirely dismissed and neglected by a father that refused to ever acknowledged her ability and displayed a clear favoritism for her sister despite Julie constantly rejecting him. Clarissa seems to be a deeply damaged victim of life long emotional abuse.
Add to that her entire life being turned upside down when her father was arrested and had his companies and assets seized. She was living a billionaire lifestyle and suddenly finds herself broke basically overnight with a parent in prison for life. If anything her motivations are some of the most realistic in the entire show. She's not doing what she's doing because of some big ideal or for some larger purpose. It's revenge against one of the people she feels is most responsible for her life unraveling. Money and personal grudges are both super common motivations for violent crimes in the real world.
Re: Clarissa’s coordinating the bomb with the fake video, etc.: it’s just her party-planning experience put to a different use.
Absolutely LOL
In the books Clarissa Mao pulls all of this of because she has enough money. Her family had one of the biggest companys in the system and you can always find a way to hide money from others.
Also in the books, there was an election on earth for the next secretary general, so the current one send all those religious poeple and artists to the ring to get more votes. Those things are definetly not explained enough in the show I feel like. Hope this helps.
Great reaction!
Ashford is such a great character! Absolutely love his character! Clarissa is a little more complex than you understand. She actually sees her father from a different perspective than we do. She sees him as a revolutionary science explorer. Not saying that correct but it is her father. Her way of life was taken away by Holden and Avasarala! Multiple layers of revenge!
Looking forward to the next one!
With regards to the contingent that went to the ring, you have to realize that the ring represents a monumental shift in human existence. Proof that we are not alone in the universe (made public). I think it is not unusual to have all segments of society bear witness to the first contact event. Artists, politicians, philosophers, scientists, religions etc. all represented and representing their like-minded peers on Earth.
P.S. The book Abaddon's Gate was published 4 years before The Last Jedi came out so any similarities in plot would be Star Wars ripping off the Expanse.
Yes, there is no telling what the mentality of aliens may be. Artists, politicians, philosophers, religions, and such may see patterns and connections that scientists and technicians don't see. Anna has already perceived something that is covered in the later books.
I think some of the issues of the Clarissa/Melba stuff can come from the fact that you basically retroactivlly learn about her, while in the book you follow her journey basically from the beginning. The whole book is much more compressed than most of the other adapted books.
Even then that never really bothered me, idk I feel like people expect way too much from the Mao plotline instead of enjoying a simple villain for being a simple villain.
@@michaelsavery7041That’s why I didn’t mind Clarissa/Melba. She is not the “big bad”, but she is a complication who makes it difficult to deal with all the other stuff going on.
Not sure if someone has already told you but Drummer was only meant to be a background character in a couple of episodes, as Fred's no.2.
They loved her performance so much that they just kept incorporating other characters into Drummer to keep her on and use her more😊
Right now her story is basically that of an entirely different book chatacter
Drummer as played by Cara Gee is *so* much better than those book characters! This is a great example how deviating from the source material can make the adaptation much better.
Drummer's speech is easily top 5 best scenes in the whole damn series.
Beltalowda!
She the reason I say beltalowdaaaaaa😂😂😂😂😂
BTS: The nighttime scene between the Mao sisters was shot during an Ontario cold snap, and it was so cold that even with a slight breeze we were under a frostbite warning.
What I call a “jet engine heater” was rented because it was so cold. The heater required a safety zone to avoid, y’know, setting yourself on fire. I was cold, bruv.
…but those two women got dressed in evening wear and fair-weather costumes, and stood there to deliver their lines like it was no big deal!
Every time I see that scene, I remember the temperature and how those two performers trooped through it. The series was blessed with such professional and talented actors.
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* By “blessed” I of course mean the producers and casting directors worked wonders with casting.
Thanks for this Angelo! As usual, I really appreciate hearing about your experience on the show and what needed to be done to put it together
Wrt to Clarissa you have to remember which show you are watching, so don't get too hung up if things are not making sense or feel trivial now, just pay attention and keep going stuff pays off often way far in the future.
Yes, beware the two-dimensional character, sometimes they hide their depth!
Dom Tipper discussed what happened during the Drummer speech scene where she had to look stoic and unemotional, but internally she was jacked up over her close friend absolutely nailing the speech. As soon as the director called cut, she let it all out and led the prod crew in a Beltalowda chant, hehe.
Now you know why Drummer got her own video game 🤟😎
Like any uber-rich person, the government can only seize the assets that they know about. You have to believe that there are funds squirrelled all over the place that the Mao family can access. The book does provide a lot of the details you are looking for with regard to Clarissa.
Ashford is such a great complex character.
Probably the biggest glow up from the books
Well him and Drummer. Both are better than in the books.@@17thknight
He’s one of my favorites.
@@rowaystarco Oh, these is no scale in existence that can measure how much they improved Drummer from how she was portrayed in the books. 😁😁😁😁
Drummer doesn't show up in the books until book 5, but she's so good, they decided to give her a back story in the tv series. That's what you are seeing. They made a few changes from the books to do this--changes I 100% support.
I love Alex's character in this episode. And this half of the season is where Drummer starts to really shine. You probably know she's an amalgamation of several book characters they just didn't have the screen time to include, and they've said how she was just so good she would get all their important moments. Great actress and wonderful human being from everything I've seen.
Here's where TV magic strikes again - Julie is only supposed to be 22 at the time of her death, and Clarissa is supposed to be younger (they made her the older sister in the show, probably for casting purposes). Through that lens, her being both hellbent on revenge against the man who took everything BUT completely unprepared for what that really means/how her actions would affect her a *little* more compelling (still the weakest subplot of the season in my opinion, however).
Aging the sisters up hurts Clarissa's character quite a bit. "If I do this horrible thing that makes me feel bad maybe my horrible father will finally love me" is better suited to someone college aged than career aged.
I haven't read the books (except 7 - 9, bc I wanted to know how the series ends), so thank you for this insight!
The Ring has a 1,000 mile diameter. The Ring space, is spherical with its radius equal to that of the Sun’s.
The camera guy that sabotaged the Roci’s communications is blind.
Peaches has her own funds, things that she could sell and connections from setting up all of those parties. As well as a serious case of daddy issues.
Anna Volovodov represents the Russian religious contingent. The reason why they are there is as ambassadors of good will in case of a first contact situation with an alien intelligence.
Drummer and Ashford are the best.
10:50 A play on the prodigal daughter, Clarissa stays and is chastised for it, Julie leaves and is a saint, in her father's eyes.
Ashford wants to make the belt a nation and improve things for all Belters so he tries to offer teaching moments to the younger Belters. He goes to talk to Naomi about the need to be in the right place, because he knows that she is a great Belter and that Drummer trusts her in a way that she does not trust Ashford. He feels that the ship needs her to succeed.
Then we see Drummer giving her speech and Naomi is listening intently but not joining in. She is clearly affected by the words, as she had a reaction to Ashford's words, but not in the way that either Drummer or Ashford hopes. She realises who she is and where she belongs.
Also Jules-Pierre Mao, parent of the year!
Many different religions are there but were focusing on Anna.
You say there's too many plotlines right now, and at the same time you're missing Bobbie's, Errinwright's, and Avasarala's.
22:15 Nerdy wants Star Wars storyline so he can get the storyline. Star Wars writing level 2, and The Expanse writing is level 20. 17:53 Anna is there because Avasarala offer her a deal she couldn’t refuse. The priest are there to find God. This is a directive in the UN contingency plan, if an alien shows up. The ring is 1000 km dia. The bubble is 1,000,000 km across. The “nucleus” is ~ 5 km in diameter. If you want details, read the book “Abaddon’s gate.” Melba is extremely rich. Her father made sure all of their family had money set aside. She can buy whatever she needs.
Drummer, Clarissa and Ashford are all great support characters. . .
Some of the best ever
I’ve never been a fan of spin off shows, but one following Drummer as a Belter pirate before the events of this story would be rad.
This is very much a "people versus (un)nature" plotline, in this part of the season.
The primary problem is presented by this alien, incomprehensible presence that has already altered humanity's perception of reality, and may do even more in the future.
Meanwhile -- and this is the point with Clarissa, right? -- some people just can't let go of past bitterness and resentment.
They're so self-involved and self-centered they can't even comprehend the pettiness of their narrow motivations.
In that sense, Clarissa stands in for a significant fraction of humanity.
Yaaay, I wasnt sure if this was coming today or tomorrow ! Great way to end the day (midnight crew here).
And I know you're up quite a bunch of episodes but let it develop at its pace when it comes to Clarissa Mao. But yeah, I initially felt the same at first, wasnt really sure she was a very noticeable character.
When you are talking about the religous contingent being there it reminds me of the movie Contact where Jodie Fosters character says they should of sent a poet instead of her, i think the reasoning is they wanted different views of the unknown.
Mao’s fortune was vast. Even with most of his assets seized, Clarissa had enough money to fund her-admittedly convoluted-revenge plot.
Drummer's speech was awesome and I thought the revalation of Clarissa Mao being Melba was good and being done for such a petty reason. Miller showing up again was fun and keeping it down to Earth for us. Amos' scenes were gold with him trying to handle things.
And I think that’s the defining characteristic at this point, she’s petty. She doesn’t care risking humanity to do what she thinks her dad would want.
Camina Drumm and Clarissa Mao are my favorit side chatakters in this show.
I loved Season 3, and never felt compelled to nitpick about the background of or the future contributions of characters in the ongoing story. But now that you mention it, Melba could have worked much better as a newly introduced character if we could have followed her journey from pretty party planner to cold-blooded super-killer. Having your father sent to prison and going from ultra-rich to having all known family assets seized might have had something to do with it, but, yes, that arill falls short of a full, convincing explanation for Melba's behavior. That sort of change in a character could serve as the over-arching storyline for a good spin-off series. Perhaps more details as to Melba's story had to be axed as part of the tough decisions to compress the Book 3 story into a half-season of TV episodes.
Remember the first few episodes of Bobbie?
Clarissa just passed some basic certifications, got some genetic enhancements, paid someone for a fake id with relevant experience and applied for a job in on the appropriate ship. It's not really explained well in the show
It just seems easy enough that it doesn’t really need a lot of explanation.
Great! For Clarissa, I'd be pissed too if the UN took all the sources of money that I had and hunted me. 👀
Drummer is just damn cool, always running great looks and is also hot.👌😊
I saw a comment somewhere that the ring space is approximately the size of the sun. So that's pretty darn big.
I don't know how big the ring itself is but it's pretty massive compared to the ships
As far as why Anna is on the ship, I think they have religious people of multiple faiths, artists, scientists, just people with a wide background of expertise. They were expecting possible first contact and they wanted a lot of different perspectives on what information they could be receiving or how to interpret it
The Ring is 1,000 miles across.
@@eds1942 Yes, but the bubble it opens into is *much* bigger
@@blackpaw29 The “Ring Space” (the Slow Zone), which as the OP says, has a radius about that of the Sun’s.
Clarissa's arc is one of my favorite of the series. It's interesting seeing how people see her at this point of the show.
THIS. There's obviously a lot more going with Clarissa then "revenge for putting my dad in prison" even at this point. Looking forward to them experiencing her arc.
I like it too but aging her up in the show was a bit of a mistake (although the actress is fantastic). Making her a naive, damaged 19 year old kid would have made more sense from a character standpoint
Oh yeah. I liked her more as a younger sister of Julie@@samanthaa.6055
Wouldn't it have been more direct and simpler to focus all of Clarissa Mao's rage and resources against Avasarala, since she's the one who actually dropped JP Mao into a hole and was responsible for destroying the family assets. Holden was basically a glorified bus driver that brought Avasarala and JP Mao together. I understand Holden's celebrity status, but the target, plot and payoff doesn't seem to add up to me. But I guess there's little point in analyzing crazy.
Monica will tell the truth because she wants all those journalism awards.
Clarissa/Melba hears Ren's performance reviews and realizes even more deeply that she's killed someone who had nothing but her own best interests at heart. We miss from the book all the internal dialog that better supports Clarissa's actions. She was a POV character in the book. A large part of her capabilities are because of her money...she still has Mao resources hidden away to hire experts and operatives. The compression of book 3 is primarily a compression of Clarissa Mao's role in the story.
Anna is being uncharacteristically selfish. Don't worry...the writers know she's being uncharacteristically selfish. Artists, politicians, philosophers, religions, and such may see patterns and connections that scientists and technicians don't see. Anna mentioned that Avasarala herself engineered Anna's presence on the ship, undoubtedly because she can personally trust Anna, despite that Anna's religion is different from Avasarala's (which Avasarala does have, just not displayed yet). Oh, ye of little faith. How long had we seen Drummer in the background before we now see her move to the forefront? It was a whole season before we even learned Drummer's name.
The coffee scene with Johnson was classic though.
Hey, Kirk!
For me, I thought Drummer was cool in the big “shoot the traitors in the head scene” but it was the bar scene with Fred where she derisively said “Can I finish my drink first” that made me immediately want more of Drummer. I felt like that one line was the window into a really delicious character/portrayal.
@@AngeloBarovierSD Drummer's "slow reveal" has a payoff.
In case you're wondering about the scale, the ring space, the slow zone, whatever you wanna call it, is about a million kilometers in diameter. Slightly less than the size of our sun. It's both huge and small.
Clarissa growing on me was one of the big surprises of the show.
Interesting point about the “only Christian” thing. In the book it’s a massive multi faith envoy. They start off kinda separate and then slowly start having multi faith services
I think for Anna, the ring represents a new way to relate to God. It's one of the universe's great mysteries.
For me, Clarissa suffered in the show because of the truncated story of book 3. The book made the story a lot more interesting to follow
If it helps, the Ring is 1,000 km across, and the bubble inside the Ring is 1,000,000 km across.
All the different plot lines connecting in various ways also helps make the show more interesting on a rewatch. You notice different stuff and elements that you didn't pay as much attention to the first time
In The Books, your complaints about Anna Volovadov are ironically turned around. You think she fit well into Season Two? In The Books she was never introduced until the Ring Cycle stories. She was an Earther…BUT lived in the Belt, had a church in the Belt.
She was INTRODUCED as a chosen member of the God Contingent on their way to the Ring.
ALSO In The Books there are representatives from hundreds of human religions.
Those two in those sweaters is giving "we noticed you from across the church gathering and really liked your Christmas spirit..."
A little Boromir/Faramir vibe going on in the Mao family...
Clarissa's characterization does suffer a little from cramming book 3 into 7 episodes. There's a LOT more in the book about how and why she is doing what she is doing.
I actually like that they made us believe that it was a whole organisation trying to bring down Holden when it was just a spoiled brat with daddy issues.
Really enjoying watching you two reacting to this series. I don't normally do this but in the next episode there's a scene you may want to rewatch and maybe even slow down or stop to get a better understanding of what's going on.
Due to the release delay I'm guessing it doesn't need to be said, but the last four episodes of this season are bangers.
Nerdy, I had the same realization about Tilly's actor and Radio Free Roscoe, except I wasn't even watching the show. I was spaced out doing dishes and I was like, you know, I know that actor but I can't think of where I know her from. And somehow I figured it out just picturing her in my mind. Such a deep cut, only Canadian millennials would understand haha
The whole discussion at the end is funny.
Your wishes shall be granted.
All the ships are in the bubble now.
More things will make more sense as time goes on in this show.
Yup, yet again we see how Jules Pierre Mao is a contender for worst Dad of the year. And yes, Clarrissa has massive Daddy issues. Julie was the classic golden child and Clarissa was never good enough. Also not just Daddy but her entire family was destroyed by Chrisjen for which she blames Holden. She doesn't think Jules committed war crimes, rather he was trying to save humanity from the Protomolecue and whatever created it.
The cameraman just gave her a back door into the Roci systems, he doesn't know what use she would make of it.
You'd think that by this time in the series, they'd stop worrying about "stories in the background" not seeming to be connected, or related to the story, when EVERYTHING always comes together and matters.
I'm impressed that you guys (esp. Nerdy) are spotting some of the weaknesses caused by the brutal stripping down of the story of book 3 to get it to fit in half a season. Many people get so caught up in all the mysteries that they overlook the way _some_ characters end up a little more flat than in earlier episodes. (And, to be fair, flat characters are not unusual in SF shows, so many people are _used_ to overlooking it for the sake of the story.) Clarissa Mao, in particular, had _most_ of her story thrown away.
Tbf, there was no way to make Melba's origin story that interesting with the time they had available. It's not even that interesting in the book.
Her best characterization comes on the back end. The writers and showrunner made the right choice.
Navy Carriers have a priest. So Anna is on the religious section of the starship.
They have a chaplain, who is an officer and part of the military.
Volovodov is a civilian guest, not part of the crew.
BELTALOWDA!!!!!
I am very disappointed that Google translate doesn’t recognize lang belta.
I always find it hard to wrap my head around just how insanely massive the ring gate is, I'm pretty sure it's like moon sized. Maybe larger.
In the previous episode you could have seen representatives of at least 4 different religions around the table in the scene where Anna notices Melba. But apparently you didn't notice them, which is hardly surprising, since you rarely look at the screen.
Everyone wants more Drummer!
Nerdy " Take away the suit (Daddy) and what are you? "
Mao: " Billionaire philanthropist playgirl "
Stupid emotional reasons don't have to make sense that's why they are stupid emotional reasons.... And if you have access to a shizzton of money, you can do a lot. ( Not all of the Mao money was daddy's money )
Well as others have said, the book predates SW:TLJ. If it has one thing in common though, it's that expectations will be subverted, except in a good way ;)
In the books and on her character sheets, Naomi is more of a hacker type. Why would you have two mechanics in your group?
I can’t think of anything to say so “For the algorithm!” 🥂
Idea that anyone can "single-handedly" be fixing 2.5km long ship is rediculous. Naomi is Chief Engineer, her importance is in organizing and keeping it together, the job she failed, btw, when decided to just "walk away" like a 15yo old..
Yeah, it is a Belter haircut. I wish I could pull it off, or still pull it off. Just not thick enough up top anymore. Take care of it, you know, and don't ignore the warning signs. I'm afraid it is too late for me. Too late for my hairline, at least. That ... I'm afraid that battle was lost long ago for me, long before I even recognized there was a fight to be fought. Take care of your follicles Nerdy. Take care.
They dutch-angled her makeup! 😜
The angle the book writers took going forward on Clarissa is so good, though. #Peaches
The post-show discussions are getting more and more frustrating as it feels like they have lost touch with the earlier faith that the writers know what they are doing, and that pretty much everything they might have complained about in earlier episodes nearly always paid out even better than expected.
Setup and payoff are what this show thrives on - lots of setup going on, and a bit rushed given that they were expecting to be cancelled.
19:40 If you read the book the other faiths are there, they just aren't main characters.
The show is already information dense and has a lot of characters. Many viewers report having trouble with the density.
I really appreciate the show creators focusing on clarity and quality over diversity.
20:10 Anna Volovodov is ethnically Russian. Why complain about hiring a blonde actress?
Clarissa's story is weird because another show would make the narrative about her relationship with her father and her need to earn his love, but in this show it doesn't really get going until much later. The stuff in season 3 is more setting her up for later.
Like, season 1 was all about this noir detective and a stereotypical paladin character, but the real meat of those characters comes from when they start moving out of that. Same with Clarissa.
LOVE Radio Free Roscoe!!
I can’t wait till they get to the Peaches story line.
Man, book 3 was done _so_ dirty by the show be cancelled and having to jam the whole book into the last two-thirds of this season. It's still good, but they had to cut out _so much_ that parts of it either don't make sense, are confusing, or are just kinda dumb. They also didn't do a great job showing time passing. There was something like eight months between arresting Jules-Pierre Mao and the convoy heading out to the ring and the journey to the ring took several more months. They didn't do a good job of explaining why Holden allowed the journalists onboard (Mars had the Roci locked down pending lawsuits and an anonymous source paid the bail in exchange for them bringing journalists to the ring). It's like getting a really good steak, but there's no veggies or potatoes. The juicy meat of the story is mostly there, but the set-up and prologue are either severely cut back or cut out entirely.
"Cancellation" had nothing to do with it. If you think about it a bit more, you should easily realize that it doesn't make sense, because season 3 was planned, written, and filmed way before anyone knew that SyFy wouldn't continue to license the show. There's an Entertainment Weekly interview with showrunner Naren Shankar where he explains why they adapted book three in just 7 episodes. One of the books' authors, Daniel Abraham, even once suggested that they could skip book 3 entirely for the show!
@@amarokorama How would "thinking about it a bit more" provide me with information in an interview that I haven't seen?
@@StarkRG Well, you wrote "book 3 was done so dirty by the show be cancelled and having to jam the whole book into the last two-thirds of this season". How is that supposed to work, when all episodes of season 3 had long been filmed before SyFy decided to drop the show? If you consider the timeline, you'll realize that it doesn't add up, even if you haven't read any interviews.
@@amarokorama Given that everything I've ever read or heard suggested they found out they'd been cancelled about three or four episodes into filming, I'd say that probably played a big role.
@@StarkRG Then you heard and read wrong. Production of season 3 began in May 2017. Filming took place between July and December 2017. Broadcast started April 11th,
2018 (S03E01). SyFy announced their "cancellation" May 10th, 2018, after broadcast of S03E05 "Triple Point". And already 16 days later, on May 26th, 2018, it was announced that Amazon would be picking up the show. Also, you need to keep in mind that the show has always belonged to Alcon Entertainment, not anyone else. Alcon financed it by licensing different rights to different parties around the world. Amazon had the streaming rights in the US from the very beginning, before they renegotiated for worldwide exclusive rights from season 4 onwards. In Europe, for example, Netflix initially had the streaming rights. SyFy merely had the live broadcast rights for the US. They paid the lion's share for that, but the numbers didn't add up for them, as the viewing habits of more and more people shifted to streaming. It makes sense that SyFy would first broadcast a few episodes, analyze the ratings, and then decide on what to do, doesn't it?
More! More! So much more to see.
THIS is their favorite episode? Kind of undersells the REST of the season.
Second half of season 3 is one of the more divisive. I liked it, but I understand why it doesn’t work for everyone
Only part I didn’t care for was Miller’s investigation in S1. Took a while for the show to find their feet, kinda like West Wing, without tWW’s lame later seasons.
Love Dummer.
no like hair doo ... like a princess Leya 30 years before XD
Yup
Shirtless Holden?? 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣
Clarissa Mao's story probably got rushed because the writers had a feeling the show was going to be cancelled. This season's great but her character is one of the weaker aspects of season three.
No, the writers didn't have that feeling. At least they never publicly said so. Season 3 was planned, written, and filmed way before anyone knew that SyFy wouldn't continue to license the show. There's an Entertainment Weekly interview with showrunner Naren Shankar where he explains why they adapted book three in just 7 episodes. One of the books' authors, Daniel Abraham, even once suggested to Shankar that they could skip book 3 entirely for the show!
13:07 nobody care Naomi 😂😂
Nein Spretchen ze Duetsch
Where's Bobbie? Next episode.
im binging your reacts ... so don't hate me ... can only react a lil
Book 3 was condensed into 7 episodes because the Syfi chanel canceled the show at this point. That's why they shortcut the whole Clarissa Mao storyline from the books. Clarissa has not only daddy issues, she never established a self esteem or a real personality and suffer some psychological consequences staying in the shadow of her big family name and her father. Julie Mao understands this but has no time or desire to deal with her sister sh*t.
Maybe the daddy issue story isn't compelling enough for you folks and feels a little bit wore down but this is a real issue especially in Hollywood. You wouldn't believe.
In the book Ashford is the main antagonist anyway so Mao's story is just a side story.
"Cancellation" had nothing to do with that. If you think about it a bit more, you should easily realize that it doesn't make sense, because season 3 was planned, written, and filmed way before anyone knew that SyFy wouldn't continue to license the show. There's an Entertainment Weekly interview with showrunner Naren Shankar where he explains why they adapted book three in just 7 episodes. One of the books' authors, Daniel Abraham, even once suggested to Shankar that they could skip book 3 entirely!
Just to remind everyone of the timeline, SyFy announced the "cancellation" May 10th, 2018, after broadcast of S03E05 "Triple Point". And already 16 days later, on May 26th, 2018, it was announced that Amazon would be picking up the show.
Even after reading the third book, I still couldn't get past the Clarrisa/Melba's daddy issues. I guess it helps knowing how much she hated Holden for bringing down her dad, and also her entire family. As mentioned by others, her whole way of life changed for the worse by Holden and Christen.
Most astrophysicists can communicate only so much to others who are not astrophysicists. I think the idea behind sending religious leaders and artists to the ring is that they can communicate what they see from their perspectives their followers. Incidentally, Elon Musk wants to send artists such as poets and songwriters on the first Starship to orbit the moon.
The first crewed vessel to orbit the moon was Apollo 8, he's missed the boat on that one by a few decades.
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Hah! They think the Belters are the good guys? How many dead on Luna?
These are the good guys of the belter faction.
Gooder? Above average?
Anyway, the show is complex about all three major sides. Mao’s people are mustache twirling villains (though there are hints that they’re just scared by the threat of an extrasolar invasion and are desperately trying to be ready).