In Torque We Trust - 1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
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- Опубликовано: 11 фев 2014
- Mr. Bob Gough's family moved to France for a few years when he was thirteen years-old and thus he grew up idolizing European sports cars and looking down on American muscle. That was until he discovered the 1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S. The 'Cuda Formula S was upgraded in-house by Plymouth with suspension and brakes that allow it to keep up with European sports cars in the twisties (that is, all but the tightest twisties). He purchased this car over twenty-three years ago and has gradually upgraded it. Bob replaced the transmission with a Tremec 5-speed and now runs a 340 cubic inch V8, rather than the original 273 ci engine. He's also replaced the original 14" wheels with custom 15" steelies.
And the only suspension mod that Bob has made is replacing the original shocks with nitrogen shocks that vastly improve the handling. The Plymouth handles so well in fact, that he frequently surprises sports car owners on drives. And once the curves straighten out, its ample torque allows it to "leave Porsches behind." You do need to exercise caution entering corners though, because the Forumla S is prone to rear wheel lock-up-so early braking is a must! Even though Bob pushes the 'Cuda, it's actually docile to drive, "but who drives a car like that?"
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60s American cars have so much personality. There's something so moody and mysterious about the sight of a muscle car alone on the highway at dusk. I guess that's why all the best existential road movies were made around that time...Two Lane Blacktop, Vanishing Point etc.
+Siddharth fgjhfh Yes!
It’s the same with the limousines of that era.
Bob sounds like just about the coolest car guy with just about the coolest Plymouth out there!
Those 2nd gen Barracudas are my absolute dream cars!
If you've ever owned and driven a second gen Barracuda, you'll know that this guy is absolutely in love with the car and most of what he says is absolute BS.
Take note of his intro and what he says about the car. He says that he's moderately modified a few things and the suspension then when he goes into detail about the suspension he says that he's hardly done anything only added some nitrogen shocks. 🤔
He's just a guy who loves his car. and just like any real car guy his love for the car has blinded him to the real capabilities of the car.
There's no way if he took this to the track that he's keeping up with 911 Porsches.
@@Firion13 It is a SOLID torsion bar front suspension and factory front discs, but there is too much glass weight up high on the back, the car is long, and too much overhang behind the rear 8 3/4 inch axle. Great for straight line traction, but terrible literally whipping around a corner. He even said he slept in the 7 foot back, and you "need to watch out for rear wheel lockup". It will slap an air cooled, vintage, non-turbo (pre-1975) 911 in a straightaway though. No doubt - especially with electronic ignition and short headers. Actually, without those. 4 piston front brakes and wider track. 11.9lbs/hp vs. 14.1lbs/hp for the 911. I was scared of my 68 Formula 340-S 4speed fastback at higher speeds in turns. Even shocks and new bushings, torsion bars (Mopar), and solid metal quarters with a chassis brace is not enough to compete with a lot of modern, 6 cylinder, rear drive cars of the past 20 years. (Lexus, BMW, infiniti). However, everyone KNOWS a 911 is rear heavy and whips around worse than any Formula 340-S. Tiny and weak tires like a cheapy VW on a 1967 Porsche 911.
@@Firion13 Wouldnt expect it to handle with a 911. Shocks can make a huge difference in the ride...rebuild the suspension they are just fine.
@@pgmurray76 Car isnt long at all. Bet a late model stang or camaro dwarfs it in comparison
I am European and i think this car looks very American in a very good way!
Im not a fan of this body style. But this sure is a nice one for sure!
@III Vance So true.
@III Vance , why can it not fall under both categories?
@Romulus III smeUth
Although you're European, that's a very American thing to say...and we thank you for it.
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Those 340s will rev to the moon. Meanest small block of the 60s.
They had a nearly perfect stroke to bore ratio, that is why they revved so nicely. Those 340 cars were stupid fast for what they were. Too bad they are so expensive now adays.
That door closed shut like a bank vault door. Very cool car and love the way he has upgraded it slightly to his personal taste without ruining it.
See people; American muscle cars can be tasteful. I love the understated, original-style look to this car. Steel wheels and a stock (enough) ride height make for a rather attractive and unusual look for these cars. I think it's great.
Who ever said they weren't? I also disagree with them.
Dan Love Snobby Europeans who get their opinions from Jeremy Clarkson.
Dan Love Oh come on. There are quite a few car enthusiasts out there who are strict Euro-only fans, who look down their noses at vintage American metal--kind of like the '68 'Cuda's owner...before he bought said car.
Glad you kept those wheels! I hate when someone puts those ghetto 30'' wheels on classic cars.
Then you have done your research atleast. 15" custom is same as on this car.
bigger wheels equals bigger brakes. lower profile tires handle better.
Preach!
Frigglebiscuit within reason. 17”-18” with good brakes, tires and tightened up suspension makes these cars handle very well.
No ones putting 30” wheels on a 68 barracuda. Some cars look good as donks some don’t. Some look good as lowriders some don’t. Idk why that’s ghetto to you, but everyone has their own likes when it comes to cars. The point that was made here was to not look your nose down on others
Love the classic wheel choice. Modest guy with a great story. Nice video!
What a great car....very tastefully modified. Excellent video!
I had a 67' Formula "S" back in school. That car ate everything. My old man was pissed when I took his brand new Vette in the curves. My best friend still says it felt like it was locked on rails at 120mph. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
I vintage road race a 66 Barracuda Formula S, and have a LOT of fun with it. Congratulations!
This is possibly one of the best automobile videos outthere. Perfect. Bob is a real car guy. Thankyou for uploading this.
Great car- kudos to owner for resisting all ridiculous mods people do to these clean late sixties designs.
While everyone argues about American and European this old man is enjoying the fuck outta his ride. Whatever makes you happy is what the fuck you build.
That’s the way all classic should be own.
Driven, improved, loved
I love the second generation Barracuda fastback.I bought a 1969 383 with the Cuda Package. When I got it, it didn't,t live up to my dreams. When I finished it, it was a low 12 and 118mph 1/4 mile car. That was hot for a streetcar back then. Beat a 429 SCJ, and a427 vette among many others. Moved to Dallas and my Cuda became a little fish in a big pond.
What a nice nice nice car this is... It may not have been Mopar's most beautiful effort, but this guy did the exact perfect thing to do, with the engine and the transmission, for a car this size... In Torque he trusts, and in Mopar I have trusted, for 35 years. Bravo. Maybe the nicest 1967 Barracuda I have ever seen.
Oh man, my Dad bought me a new one of those for my second year in college. Loved that car. Put the pedal to the medal and hear that four barrel kickin. Fold the back seat down and lower the small tab to the truck and you had seven feet of space were you could lay down and look up and through the huge window and the stars above. Girls loved that! Remember it was crap in snow, however.
every car you guys "review" makes me want to own it!
the handling of them barracudas is very underrated,,,,i have 2 1968 version and with a small block aluminum intake and i pull one across some scales with 1/4 tank of fuel and the weight from front to back axles wasn't more than a couple hundred pounds difference,,,,,,i live in northern california,,,,,,takes a pretty good car and driver to keep up and/or get away from me in the mountain corners,,,,,1968 Barracuda Formula S 340S 4 speed,,,my favorite car ever,,,,i'll never part with it
Bob Gough!! An old patient of mine! Glad to see all is well. Last I spoke to you were building that green Dart and you were going to build your A-100.
I owned two barracudas growing up, the 67 and the 68. I still love my 67 because my step dad and I rebuilt the car from the ground up and drove like a dream. I would love to own one again. Take care of the Cuda and it will take care of you.
Correction : Barracuda made from '64 1/2 through 69 , CUDA was made '70 -'74 .
The folding seats for 7 feet of space is AWESOME. One of my new favorite cars.
i love those car mounted shots. they are reminiscent of vanishing point and similar muscle car movies.
I love this year of Barracuda, and I love that it isn't as stock as it looks, modified to perform! I'll take one in yellow.
That'll be $175,000 please.
@@No-vm7go They dont sell for that much
wow...that exhaust sound amazing. absolutely perfect!
I bought my 1968 Barracuda Fastback in 1984 and have kept it ever since. I feel the same way you do, once I fell in love with the style, I decided it was all I ever needed.
what a beautifull car times that can never come back
Well, those times COULD come back, but those in positions to make it happen, won't. Because they're gutless. So, in that sense, you're right. It's extremely unlikely that we'll ever see a revival of the good ol' days. But it COULD happen; manufacturers could build REAL cars again if they wanted to, out of REAL materials (not plastic) and fasteners (nuts & bolts, not rivets and clips that have to be broken to be removed; you know; reusable), but it would take REAL men to make those decisions at the executive level of corporations and for government to remove some really asinine environmental laws. As the old adage goes "You can make progress or you can make excuses, but you can't do both". This is why the only people who have REAL cars are REAL men who sacrifice to make them happen and keep them on the road, like Bob here.
I owned a 67 formula S. It came to me with 45K miles in 1971. It did everything well. Maroon with a white interior = beautiful. My only regret was the first owner removed the original exhaust for dual quite mufflers. That formula S exhaust sound was one of the best factory exhaust sounds. I sold it in 1974. Traded in for a Toyota Corona SR5 (73 oil embargo). People were wanting to buy the 67 before we even signed the contarct on the new car. The salesman immediately bought it for his wife.
Bob. I owned one of these when I was young and still dream that I'm driving it. It's nice to see someone who is still living his dreams. I don't think I can express the feeling this vid gave me. All I can say say is my dreams may be a little more vivid now, Thank you!
I remember when you first started working on this beast. Nice car, Bob!
Beautiful engine sound. Great muscle car.
Just fantastic! I got a 67 coupe. Driving it just puts a smile on ya face. Thanks for sharing Petrolicious
Very Nice Barracuda, the glory days of cars
Old video, even though the 340 didn't come out till '68 model year. He built it to what he wanted. There is no need to disrespect him. It's a great build, good handling car. And those 340s are giant killers when placed in an A-body.
They are giant killers in any Mopar body A,B,E,C,F or even in a Ram truck. Long live the big bore Hunter..
In 1976 when I was 16 I got a 1970 340 Dart Swinger for my first car. It only had 42,000 miles on it. It was unusual in that it was heavily (pun intended) optioned. It had A.C., power steering, power disc brakes (the 4 piston type), vinyl top, matte black hood with hood pins, the 727 Torqueflite transmission and an 8 3/4 rear end w/ 3.23 gears and Sure Grip. The only thing that didn't work was the A.C.. I beat a lot of 383 Roadrunners, 351 Cleveland Mach 1's and 327 Camaros. The closest race was a 1969 Z/28 Camaro. I beat him by a fender. His car was beautiful and mine had a rusted trunk lid and rear quarter panels and touch up unmatching paint spots.That was probably part of the reason I got it for $350, that and OPEC games back then. They were giving muscle cars away back then. I did meet a guy that had one like mine except nicely restored with a "Sublime" green paint job that he swapped in a 511 cubic inch stroked 383 with a Hemi 4-speed and a Dana 60 with 4.88 gears. First time I'd even heard about a "stroker". He said whenever he was hunting a race they would always hesitate when they saw it was a big block. But he would just casually laugh and say, "Eh, don't worry, I just dropped a 383 in it to see how it would run."He specifically built it to race for money on the street. He told me he would always just barely beat them. I remember riding with him when he raced a V-8 Vega. When we passed it, I was looking down at the Vega because the front wheels on the Dart were still in the air! When mine hydroplaned in the rain after 3 years and 40, 000 miles I sold my TRW, Edelbrock, Hedman, Accel modified engine to a guy that, believe or not, was driving a 1970 340 Dart Swinger too. He said "Yeah, there's this 383 Lime green 1970 Dart Swinger that I just can't quite beat. But with this motor I got him!" I just smiled and said "Good luck!"
@@yougeneKNOWS Truck or larger Mopar no....not a giant killer come on.
What a beautifully looking and sounding car. Drive Tastefully, indeed.
Listening to The Doors would be the perfect drive
AWESOME!!!!! Nice car, nice engine, nice idle, nice sound, nice interior, nice history. Absolutely amazing. Congratulations!!!!
1967-1969 'Cudas are in my top 5 favorite cars. I love the stock look of this one. The hidden and subtle mods are perfect.
The styling is beautiful, inside and out. It weighs under 3k lbs, so 380 hp (and at least that much torque) moves that car with authority. The 340 is a great engine with plenty of parts available.The Tremec really adds function as well, you can run a 3.73 gear and it will cruise well on the highway. It's no bigger than a 4 speed. I think it's a wonderful build.
Unlikely, I have a 64 340 4spd Dart and it weighs over 3400#'s. I'm a little doubtful of the 380hp, too. My Dart has 340hp and leaves harder than that. And you don't have to grind on the starter to start it.
@@budlanctot3060 Im betting the owner knows his car well. SOme head work, cam exh he can hit 380 out of a little 340
Gorgeous car!!! There was one of these at my school when I was 6years old. I was fascinated by it.
Beautiful car! Another great film too. When I was a kid I had this little book called 'The Observers' Book of Cars' and it had details of every make of car for sale in the UK for that year. The cars featured were, naturally, mostly British and European but there were a few American cars too. The Baracuda was one of them and I thought it looked the business. I'm delighted to find out that they could also go as well as they looked. I never did see one on the road though...
Holy crap! After watching again I realized this was filmed in my small home town! We have amazing roads here I'm glad to see you stopped by!
High school graduation money helped buy my 1967 Formula S in 1976 out of a back lot at a local car dealer. A year in my grandmother's garage ..engine..wheels..carpet..seats..suspension. Two years later the winter snow crashed it. And still I mourn.
Man, I love this guy. Almost as much as I love his car. The rims for example, aren't they awesome?
"In Torque We Trust"
That's some seriously old school tuning right there. Nice.
Fantastic video! That is one hell of a car you've got there, Bob! 👌
Nice build. Under appreciated Plymouth for sure. Looks and sounds great. I love the fact that you can hang with the European sports cars.
Such a great ride. Perfect color combination with the paint and interior color. And factory A/C to boot ! The 340 was a wise choice. The 273 was a great engine with it's solid lifters, providing some serious RPM's, but I feel that the top end was wasted in RPM numbers and not a commensurate increase in horsepower or torque range. Who needs Viagra ? Get one of these.
This was really cool and enjoyable video. I felt like I was watching a short film or trailer to a movie. Tastefully done with good dialogue and sound from both the car and music soundtrack.
Reminds me of something John Tanner from Driver would enjoy fanging around in while catching bad guys
I love this channel, thank you and keep it up guys!
Gotta love the sound of the MOPAR motors.. great looking earlier Fish! Well done
Can't get enough of this 'Cuda, why can't I have one!!!!
The way this video was shot makes it look like it's the best looking car ever. Searching offer up for a Barracuca right now!
I had a 67 Formula S, but with the 273 ci 235 hp engine. I bought Fred Puhn's book "How To Make Your Car Handle" and lowered the car and tighten up the suspension. It was wonderful. One of two "regret" cars that I immediately regretted selling.
Awesome car and story. Nice to see some American muscle, keep up the great work.
Thank you.
My 1st car was a 67 Barracuda. 318 factory 4 spd, coupe. Got it at an abandoned vehicle sale in 1985 that no one knew of. I was sole bidder @ $100. Ran & looked great. Miss that car
I love how your cameraman captured that little, short, distinctive high pitched sqeak of the door handle button.
Everyone has their favourite Muscle Car; There's Mustang Guys (predictable), there's Charger Guys (cliche), and there's Challenger Guys. Anything that had a big on-screen presense back in the day is generally what people gravitate to because they are deemed cool. That's not to say they arn't good cars, they are. And they are indeed cool. Up to a point. Me, I'm a Mopar Guy, and the 67 Baracuda, for me, is the greatest Muscle Car of them all, and achingly cool. Pure gold Mopar Magic. Love it.
I was a teen but remember very well seeing this car in a showroom. At the time, it looked like it was from the future. No other like it.
I am so thankful to be alive in an era where V8’s exist... I will be this old man driving my Camaro V8 zl1 1le. 30years later.
Good for you!! If you hit hard times, cover and store it. Get a 1200 beater if need be
Im now that old guy I swore to friends in my teens I said Id be, grey hair and still banging gearsin old iron and listening to 70s 80s rock/metal. Long hair and all!
I love it! This is someone telling the truth about these old muscle cars and there actual potential and their faults. Excellent! I have a '74 TA I've upgraded and I can tell you I know what he means about the handling. The old muscle can do it if you just do some upgrades and we aren't talking about putting a brand new 'Vette under it were talking working with the original stuff and upgrading bushings, shocks, tires, etc. Great video! Thanks for posting! I know this feeling! :D
Love the look and reminds me of my 67 Barracuda coupe. I bought it to build it with my three Daughters but ended up trading it for a Mustang. The Mustang had about 400+ horsepower but I should have never done the trade. My Dad, also made a huge mistake to sell his 69 Plymouth Road Runner, in the 90's. This car was suppose to be my first car but my Dad ended up also selling it for $300 dollars. Which that car now is worth lots more. So many regrets....I have owned from 65,66 Hertz edition Mustangs to Mavericks to Mopars. What can I say. I'm a muscle car freak.
I am in love with your Barracuda sir. I love dog dish hubs on vintage American iron. Nothing looks better
just moved to the top of my list.
This guys a BADASS!!!!
The shot from the back seat looking forward and seeing the shift lever is awesome!
Love this and love that he just keeps making sensible updates to the car over time to keep it interesting.
I owned a 340 cuda' years ago and miss it dearly.
Great job with yours
These earlier Barracudas are more of a GT car then a true muscle car. There is zero wrong with that. The 70 'Cuda is a fire breathing muscle car.I have a lot of love for these late 60s ones though and you have the best example of one that I have seen sir.
I really love the way this channel make the videos.
I even pay money to watch them.
I had a Bright Blue Metalic '67 383 Formula S Barracuda that I bought new and drove for 17 yrs. At the time, there was no speed limit in Nevada and my standard cruising speed was 100 MPH. The car felt very stable and comfortable and I put many miles on it at that speed. I really loved that car, the reason I parted with it was that I was rear-ended. The only damage was the lower molding on the deck lid, but it took 6 mo of calling all over the country to locate one, and long distance wan't cheap in those days. After that I just didn't feel comfortable while driving the car.
THIS is my dream car right here! XD I love the 67-69 Barracudas, especially Fastbacks like this. You either hate 'em or love 'em. In this case, i absolutely adore them.
Looks like just East of Bay Area. I'm in Sacramento, and would love to hang with this gentleman. Anyone who digs fastbacks can't be all bad.
I had a ride in one of these in South Africa when I was in high school. It wasn't a Formula S but even a stock 67 Barracuda is something special down here. I remember thinking how huge it was compared to the rest of the cars here and it felt cumbersome and slow with it's 3 or 4 speed auto. I wish it had been a Formula S. This thing is bad ass
I had a Brite Blue Metallic '67 Formula S 383 Barracuda, with Cragar S/S wheels, I bought new and drove it for 17 yrs. I loved that car, but I was afraid to drive it any more. The molding on the lower edge of the deck lid was damaged and it took 6 mo and a very large long distance phone bill to find a replacement. Worrying that someone would run into it again took the joy out of driving it. I sold it for almost as much as I paid for it.
I added front discs and a combination valve to my 67, and it brakes very predictably- saved my butt once or twice.
My new favorite channel. I can't stop watching these perfectly filmed and edited videos.
Had a couple of these back around early 70's .Headers help these a lot especially the 273. 340 manifolds were much betterI Iused Hurst/Gabriel adjustable shocks adjusted to all the way stiff and it gave me what I needed in the Santa Cruz mountains late at night. My early 60's parents said it rode like an Iron wheeled farm wagon ,but my dad took it to work if I had to take mom anywhere distant
What makes this channel great is not just the cars, but the story behind them
Nice ride, i always love those steelie wheels with dog dish hub cap.
Yep. Police wheels look great that way too.
Gotta love car guys. Like the owner's passion. Nice one Petrolicious.
Thats my favorite barracuda body. Great highlight
My Mother drove the 1969 Mod Top Barracuda with a six cylinder. I finally bought her a new car some 14 years later, the dam Barracuda would not die. Why can't we build them like that any more?? Even with just a six cylinder it was a fun car.
The "slant six" was durable that's for sure. There were rare intake manifolds for the six and other performance goodies offered early on for enthusiasts.
Mfrs found theres no money in cars that last. EPA would never let the big 3 build anything decent anyways
Even the faster new stuff is throwaway...cant even bore or rebuild engines, trans cost more money to fix than most CC limits.
Soul mate car with a story. Envy.
So much yes. One of my favourite Mopars by one of my favourite car channels.
Keep on being awesome.
Beautiful '67 Formula S Cuda Popin' the Clutch Ya it sure Hooks up good!
This car is gorgeous and finally a muscle car that can turn properly. Awesome car msn
Very nice '67 fastback. I have a '68 fastback, and love it. Mine was not a formula S, however it has become effectively one, with many modifications. It was a 318 2 barrel carb, air conditioning, automatic on the column, bench seat car in the metallic medium green, which I call pea soup green. It is now a 4 speed 340 with bucket seats, a 8.75" rear end, disk brakes front, sway bars front and rear.... in bright metallic blue (electric blue)
When I was maybe 7 or 8 years old, my father purchased a 6 or 7 years old Barracuda 1967 !
If he had not sold the car a few years later, I probabily would still drive it today !!! I'm constantly looking for one like yours but I live in Switzerland and here these cars costs as much as Lamborghini !!! LOL ... Maybe One day I will go to the US to find one and ship it to Switzerland ;-)
Simply beautiful. This is my fave years of the Barracuda. 1967 to 1969
Damn... I miss my 68 Barracuda Formula S. So much.
Great job on car leaving it looking stock instead of ruining it like so many do today with oversized low profile cartoon looking looking rims and tires.
Also great story.
Sweet ride. I've always liked the 67 Barracuda.
Love the car love the owners story. Nice vid.
Chrysler small blocks are true un sung heroes. I graduated from high school in 75 and my 67 Dodge Coronet had a 383 that thru a rod and the best thing that happened was building my own Dart GT i started with a slant six Dart swapped in a 340 wrapped the trunk with a stripe a/c and 4spd
That thing is a mental hurricane, jesus what a beast.
that final burnout is epic auto filming, great clip overall.
ps. youtube's new ads SUCK. Time to research alternatives.
The dashboard of the 67-69 Barracuda is one of the best and best quality of any car of that era.
That little car is so super cool . Good job on all the work you have done . I have the same love and passion for my 2 cars . And you have educated me on another cool Morpar car.
Bob is a boss! Car looks and sounds awesome!