Can't shake the thought that us getting an ancient name is a set up to kill the traveler, i mean apparently paimon won't be allowed to come with us into the abyss, and if we get that name before going then thatd be a solid set up for killing us somehow without risking paimons safety, perhaps after dying traveler would get to meet someone or something in the night realm or something before they perform the ode of resurrection and bring him back.
You might be cooking something here. Traveler dying in the war and being resurrected by the ode or using the gnosis seem like a good reason they finally resonate with Pyro. And let's be honest, with us going to Shnez next Pyro has to be stronger so we can have some ground to stand on.
@Luc-Ferr also since traveler should have access to the natlan gimmicks, kinda like he has access to the fontaine gimmicks. Traveler could get a gadget of sorts for exploration, every natlan character has some sort of device they use to attack and move with. Traveler shouldn't be an exception to this rule, xilonen could probably make him a weapon with his name or something. But it would certainly make pyro traveler the most unique version of him by far if they do.
It'll also be interesting if this is one of the ways to become "a part of this world" like our Sibling has managed with their records recorded in Irminsul despite still being an Outlander, not that Traveler would lose their Descender Status nor their "Immune to Irminsul Tampering" ability... Like how it's Theorized Zhongli may be an Outlander as he's even older than many think, knows things he normally wouldn't or shouldn't, as well apparently didn't forget Rukkhadevata somewhere which is a massive flag.
I agree with your suggestion that Void is the Unknown God. Pulling from Gnosticism, the whole curse of being a demiurge is being unable to shape reality out of natural forms, but instead only cubes and shapes that never appear in true nature.
If you think about it, this is the first time we see something even remotely celestial in action with the red power sustaining the false sky. Last time was when we actually met the one sustaining it who sent us on our long journey haha!
Actually, not really. Near Irminsul in Sumeru AQ, there are floating exactly the same cubes that Sustainer uses, and unlike the fake sky, these are EXACTLY the same cubes with the same patterns from the beginning of the game.
@@white_tulip2189I don't think he would without a Wanderer redesign. He doesn't follow the typical character design of player characters. Hoyo designs thier player characters to be seen largely from behind, with a distinctive silhouette. Capitano looks like he's designed to be viewed from the the front, like Signora. Redesigns are possible though! That's been proven, but the model we see at the moment, I don't personally think will be playable.
This just makes me feel even more excited about what will come after Snezhnaya, I just need to know more about everything secret about Teyvat: Celestia, Khaenri'ah, Heavenly Principles, the Shades, what is beyond the False Sky, etc.
I don't think we're travelling to the Abyss with Mavuika in 5.3. That will likely happen after we're done exploring the rest of the tribes at least, if not the whole of Natlan, because that's what it's gonna take for the Traveler to fully realize his Ancient Name.
I've said this in some other videos, but I think this is such an interesting thing to note that I kinda want to see how far it can go: in the original Chinese text it is implied that there's a male Shade among the four shades. Because when Lord of the night mentioned the four shades, she referred to them using the 3rd person plural masculine form of "they", instead of 3rd person plural feminine form, which suggests that at least one male is in the group. Since we know Istaroth and Renova are female, and the Fontaine wind glider referred to the Shade of life as "she", then the Shade of Void is probably male. Which means the Sustainer might not be one of the four shades. Maybe she is THE heavenly principle. Lord of the night also suggested that Shades do not count as heavenly principle after all. They only work for the heavenly principle. Of course there's always the possibility that this is nothing more than a typo. But hoyo did take their time to specify the Shade of Life's gender in an item that most people don't bother to read the description of, so it's hard to imagine they got it wrong here in such an important part of the story.
How come in every video theory that i have seen nobody mentions the piece of the unknown relic in the sky that we find in a hole in the ground in Natlan? When i found it and used elemental sight on it, it shows that it has elemental energy through it. I found this piece while exploring when 5.0 came out. If anyone wants to look for it i remember it was SE on the terrain near a Tepetlisaurus digging in the ground. But to activate it you have to do a world quest to uncover it I believe.
I'm pretty sure I meant to add this to my notes, but I guess I completely forgot lmao. It is a really interesting relic, and the crater almost kinda lines up with the direction that the shattered moon is in
I have read somewhere but cant remember where seelie could be fae too and it could be happy and lucky which sound like klee. Pulcinella could be unseelie, grumpy and unlucky.
Do you have a video on what Aether and Lumine were up to before trying to leave Teyvat, at the very beginning of the game? I don’t think I ever saw any theories on it.
Theres been a lot of hints implying that the sustainer is the shade of "space" or "void", With her capturing powers. the fractured 'moon' beyond the sky definitely could a moon sister destroyed basically at the time frame of the second who came's attack on the primordial one. (same time that the PO's guardian angels were devolved into seelies, ie the fall of the unified civilization ) The red tinge could also have links to the crimson moon dynasty and arlechinno's ancestors. (the crimson moon dynasty possibly came to power in khaenriah at it's inception and was later overthrown by the eclipse dynasty. I myself think that the fall of khaenriah in the cataclysm was orchestrated by some vengeful entity that used to hold sway during the crimson moon dynasty) The most dangerous enemy to something with a lot of power is of course deception.
2:10 Ronova is not the only exception to the rule. In fact a certain shade in more known and more worshipped than her. That being Istaroth, Shade of Time having not one but TWO nations commemorating her existence with giant statues.
Which nations would those be? Shes associated with Mond, Enka and Inazuma right? The big statues in Mond and Inazuma are dedicated to their own archons and i dont recall Enka having any big statues. Shes not quite the same as Ronova. Despite being publicly worshipped Istaroth is never directly mentioned by name. Shes always called the God/Ruler of Time, Tokoyo Ookami, Kairos etc. The person who wrote Before Sun and Moon wrote her real name backwards cause he dared not mention it. Ei also just calls her a higher power instead of by her name.
@@callmerosa170 She has two statues in Mondstat, shaped like time dials and her own island. Inazuma is assumed to be here, correct me if I'm wrong, but the game never says that by name. She's mentioned in passing by Ei and mentioned in 'Before Sun and Moon.' Also known as Genshins only lore book :)
"Behind this pitch-black curtain, a chapter of hatred reveals itself. Behind the smoke, the lingering smoke. Warning, warning. Red, the red color of danger has now arisen within that pair of eyes." I think Citlali's act 3 drunken meditation was about the reveal of the true sky. Behind the pitch-black curtain (abyssal sky), a chapter of hatred (the period of history) reveals itself. Behind the smoke (sky), the lingering smoke (red in the true sky). Red, the red color of danger has now arisen within that pair of eyes (the abyssal eye in the sky that Mavuika destroys). I also think the abyss did this on purpose knowing that the true sky would reveal itself if it lost, since Natlan is emphasizing how cunning the abyss is. When in the night kingdom, we hear "Journey...Lies."
Wym shades are all secretive and had never been mentioned by any archon. Istaroth was publicly known and even worshipped as you said and ei mentioned her in her second story quest.
Ei mentioned her indirectly, she said "higher power." She never specifically said Istaroth. The God of Time has been widely forgotten, and the only reason we know her name is because a scholar in Enkanomiya penned her name backwards, Htoratsi.
I interpreted what the lord of the night said as ronova could be the sustainer of heavenly principles. What if as punishment for the night kingdom and her “self pity” she became the sustainer. The sustainer doesn’t seem to care about ppl talking about her and the archons (“a select few”) know of her existence. The reason the nails cause disasters even though there not meant to is a price for using the power of the shade of death.
i'm a little conflicted on the who the shades might be because idk if i'm just stupid but aren't we (the traveler in the story) referring to the "unknown god" as the heavenly principles? i don't think the heavenly principles and the sustainer of heavenly principles are different people.
Could the curse of immortality of the survivors of khaenriah be related to ronova or god of life too? We also saw the sustainer cubes in the desrruction scene of khaenriah afterall as well
@@SiliconOneFour interesting. Also capitano said khaenriah was destroyed by the abyss. So far i thought the 6 archons (without rukkhadevata) caused the cataclysm. Maybe you could do a vid about that and the difference between THE abyss and the abyss order.
the Sustainer of Heavenly Principals and the Heavenly Principals are one and the same, does everyone you know call you by your full name at all times? ;)
Can't shake the thought that us getting an ancient name is a set up to kill the traveler, i mean apparently paimon won't be allowed to come with us into the abyss, and if we get that name before going then thatd be a solid set up for killing us somehow without risking paimons safety, perhaps after dying traveler would get to meet someone or something in the night realm or something before they perform the ode of resurrection and bring him back.
You might be cooking something here. Traveler dying in the war and being resurrected by the ode or using the gnosis seem like a good reason they finally resonate with Pyro. And let's be honest, with us going to Shnez next Pyro has to be stronger so we can have some ground to stand on.
@Luc-Ferr also since traveler should have access to the natlan gimmicks, kinda like he has access to the fontaine gimmicks.
Traveler could get a gadget of sorts for exploration, every natlan character has some sort of device they use to attack and move with. Traveler shouldn't be an exception to this rule, xilonen could probably make him a weapon with his name or something. But it would certainly make pyro traveler the most unique version of him by far if they do.
@@KurtacusRex 😮😮😮😮🤯
I bet we’re going to use the power of Ronova, and then die.
It'll also be interesting if this is one of the ways to become "a part of this world" like our Sibling has managed with their records recorded in Irminsul despite still being an Outlander, not that Traveler would lose their Descender Status nor their "Immune to Irminsul Tampering" ability... Like how it's Theorized Zhongli may be an Outlander as he's even older than many think, knows things he normally wouldn't or shouldn't, as well apparently didn't forget Rukkhadevata somewhere which is a massive flag.
I agree with your suggestion that Void is the Unknown God. Pulling from Gnosticism, the whole curse of being a demiurge is being unable to shape reality out of natural forms, but instead only cubes and shapes that never appear in true nature.
If you think about it, this is the first time we see something even remotely celestial in action with the red power sustaining the false sky. Last time was when we actually met the one sustaining it who sent us on our long journey haha!
Actually, not really. Near Irminsul in Sumeru AQ, there are floating exactly the same cubes that Sustainer uses, and unlike the fake sky, these are EXACTLY the same cubes with the same patterns from the beginning of the game.
6:07 my all time favorite shade ngl
I only pray they don´t kill Capitano I really want him to be playable and everything is hinting he is going to die
They wouldn’t make him non-playable, why would they? His banner would generate millions and Hoyo is obviously not going to turn that down.
@@white_tulip2189 I hope so, it's that his actual model is not like the one other tall male characters and I'm afraid
@@white_tulip2189I don't think he would without a Wanderer redesign. He doesn't follow the typical character design of player characters.
Hoyo designs thier player characters to be seen largely from behind, with a distinctive silhouette. Capitano looks like he's designed to be viewed from the the front, like Signora.
Redesigns are possible though! That's been proven, but the model we see at the moment, I don't personally think will be playable.
I'm interested in his coming story since I believe the final foe for himself and "those countless souls" is death.
Yoh-Wal-Teh-Koo-tin thats how you pronounce Yohualtehcutin's name👍
This just makes me feel even more excited about what will come after Snezhnaya, I just need to know more about everything secret about Teyvat: Celestia, Khaenri'ah, Heavenly Principles, the Shades, what is beyond the False Sky, etc.
I don't think we're travelling to the Abyss with Mavuika in 5.3.
That will likely happen after we're done exploring the rest of the tribes at least, if not the whole of Natlan, because that's what it's gonna take for the Traveler to fully realize his Ancient Name.
From looks it we only need Chasca's in the scroll and bottom all just the world quests. 🤔
I've said this in some other videos, but I think this is such an interesting thing to note that I kinda want to see how far it can go: in the original Chinese text it is implied that there's a male Shade among the four shades. Because when Lord of the night mentioned the four shades, she referred to them using the 3rd person plural masculine form of "they", instead of 3rd person plural feminine form, which suggests that at least one male is in the group. Since we know Istaroth and Renova are female, and the Fontaine wind glider referred to the Shade of life as "she", then the Shade of Void is probably male. Which means the Sustainer might not be one of the four shades. Maybe she is THE heavenly principle. Lord of the night also suggested that Shades do not count as heavenly principle after all. They only work for the heavenly principle.
Of course there's always the possibility that this is nothing more than a typo. But hoyo did take their time to specify the Shade of Life's gender in an item that most people don't bother to read the description of, so it's hard to imagine they got it wrong here in such an important part of the story.
Cant wait to see 5.3 i hope pyro traveler not will be as weak like hydro is
In star rails short about acheron they had the swords that matched the herrschers and the void one was able to make a firmament around the world
this patch refreshed my passion to Genshin lore and I am grateful for that ^ ^
I was waiting for your video on this topic!
How come in every video theory that i have seen nobody mentions the piece of the unknown relic in the sky that we find in a hole in the ground in Natlan? When i found it and used elemental sight on it, it shows that it has elemental energy through it. I found this piece while exploring when 5.0 came out. If anyone wants to look for it i remember it was SE on the terrain near a Tepetlisaurus digging in the ground. But to activate it you have to do a world quest to uncover it I believe.
I'm pretty sure I meant to add this to my notes, but I guess I completely forgot lmao. It is a really interesting relic, and the crater almost kinda lines up with the direction that the shattered moon is in
@@SiliconOneFour that’s what blows my mind that no one talked about it yet!!!
Oh my god I cannot wait to see what happen in the next archon quest. I have so much theory now. 👀
I hope MC get to meet Ronova, and through her MC can learn of the Identities and Roles of the other Shades!
The fact Seelie means soul in German is very on the nose
I really thought they just translated "soulie' until i changed my game to english xD
not quite… seele means soul in german
I have read somewhere but cant remember where seelie could be fae too and it could be happy and lucky which sound like klee. Pulcinella could be unseelie, grumpy and unlucky.
It's also a term for a fairy in Scottish
@@captainjessie7257 that is so cute
2:00 the Chinese had this as "self-abandonment", if that might help.
Do you have a video on what Aether and Lumine were up to before trying to leave Teyvat, at the very beginning of the game? I don’t think I ever saw any theories on it.
Theres been a lot of hints implying that the sustainer is the shade of "space" or "void", With her capturing powers. the fractured 'moon' beyond the sky definitely could a moon sister destroyed basically at the time frame of the second who came's attack on the primordial one. (same time that the PO's guardian angels were devolved into seelies, ie the fall of the unified civilization )
The red tinge could also have links to the crimson moon dynasty and arlechinno's ancestors.
(the crimson moon dynasty possibly came to power in khaenriah at it's inception and was later overthrown by the eclipse dynasty. I myself think that the fall of khaenriah in the cataclysm was orchestrated by some vengeful entity that used to hold sway during the crimson moon dynasty)
The most dangerous enemy to something with a lot of power is of course deception.
2:10 Ronova is not the only exception to the rule. In fact a certain shade in more known and more worshipped than her. That being Istaroth, Shade of Time having not one but TWO nations commemorating her existence with giant statues.
Which nations would those be? Shes associated with Mond, Enka and Inazuma right? The big statues in Mond and Inazuma are dedicated to their own archons and i dont recall Enka having any big statues. Shes not quite the same as Ronova. Despite being publicly worshipped Istaroth is never directly mentioned by name. Shes always called the God/Ruler of Time, Tokoyo Ookami, Kairos etc. The person who wrote Before Sun and Moon wrote her real name backwards cause he dared not mention it. Ei also just calls her a higher power instead of by her name.
@@callmerosa170 She has two statues in Mondstat, shaped like time dials and her own island.
Inazuma is assumed to be here, correct me if I'm wrong, but the game never says that by name. She's mentioned in passing by Ei and mentioned in 'Before Sun and Moon.' Also known as Genshins only lore book :)
Technically 3. The Aranara mentioned her, proof of her everywhere in Monstandt, and she helped Enkanomiya. But never named directly.❤
"Behind this pitch-black curtain, a chapter of hatred reveals itself. Behind the smoke, the lingering smoke. Warning, warning. Red, the red color of danger has now arisen within that pair of eyes."
I think Citlali's act 3 drunken meditation was about the reveal of the true sky. Behind the pitch-black curtain (abyssal sky), a chapter of hatred (the period of history) reveals itself. Behind the smoke (sky), the lingering smoke (red in the true sky). Red, the red color of danger has now arisen within that pair of eyes (the abyssal eye in the sky that Mavuika destroys). I also think the abyss did this on purpose knowing that the true sky would reveal itself if it lost, since Natlan is emphasizing how cunning the abyss is. When in the night kingdom, we hear "Journey...Lies."
Something tells me Himeko is going to pull a sacrifice arc, and plot twist is Captain will come in and switches place with her.
7:00 She must be the Shade of Void, there's just too many resemblances and I would be very suprised if she isn't
9:38 same bro, same!!
Wym shades are all secretive and had never been mentioned by any archon.
Istaroth was publicly known and even worshipped as you said and ei mentioned her in her second story quest.
Ei mentioned her indirectly, she said "higher power." She never specifically said Istaroth. The God of Time has been widely forgotten, and the only reason we know her name is because a scholar in Enkanomiya penned her name backwards, Htoratsi.
I interpreted what the lord of the night said as ronova could be the sustainer of heavenly principles. What if as punishment for the night kingdom and her “self pity” she became the sustainer. The sustainer doesn’t seem to care about ppl talking about her and the archons (“a select few”) know of her existence. The reason the nails cause disasters even though there not meant to is a price for using the power of the shade of death.
i'm a little conflicted on the who the shades might be because idk if i'm just stupid but aren't we (the traveler in the story) referring to the "unknown god" as the heavenly principles? i don't think the heavenly principles and the sustainer of heavenly principles are different people.
Good video.
Could the curse of immortality of the survivors of khaenriah be related to ronova or god of life too? We also saw the sustainer cubes in the desrruction scene of khaenriah afterall as well
With what Capitano was saying, I definitely think so
@@SiliconOneFour interesting. Also capitano said khaenriah was destroyed by the abyss. So far i thought the 6 archons (without rukkhadevata) caused the cataclysm. Maybe you could do a vid about that and the difference between THE abyss and the abyss order.
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the Sustainer of Heavenly Principals and the Heavenly Principals are one and the same, does everyone you know call you by your full name at all times? ;)
4:30 Are you calling the Moon Sisters fat?
I hope not, don't want to disrespect the dead
I clicked so fast
Yippee!
5:25 not like that. Heavenly Principles aren't Shades.
Yes, that's why I said "The Four Shades and the Heavenly Principles"
Is it just me or Is the volume too high