Sorry, but you can't start a review of an AWD bike next to a gravel incline and after doing the walk around conclude with an asphalt test. The are expectations to be met, you know?
Mine will do 27.4 km on the full charge with very little peddling at around 35 km per hour. at that stage the battery is going down to the Redline. Quite honestly I think the bike is great Mine will do top speed 48 kph or 29.83 mph on the flat or 25 kph or15.53 mph on a hill I weigh 130 kg or 286.60 pound.
This seems ideal for a snow commute in the northeast USA! It would be nice to see it in snow on the video. Concerns about battery life should have been addressed in the video. The dual motors and ability to shift "on the fly" feels "revolutionary.
Comparing this to the RadRover for a starting price of $1,500, without fenders or back rack. Radrover has the taillight wired into the battery, nicer looking display (I think), PAS level does not limit throttle (that I know of), throttle is opposite of interface (I think is a better layout as to not accidentally throttle when changing settings), and RadRover has a front shock which I think would help with off-roading. I do not own a RadRover, but this is what I see through my observations.
Gonna do a review from the California high desert asap. Just got one and I love it for the most part. Before this purchase I solely rode a mtn bike around
Thanks for this detailed review...This FAT AWD bike seems to be well constructed, functional and well priced...It would be interesting to see how well this machine performs over time and how it compares to something like the Rad Rover (which has a single motor in the rear).
@Eric Thompson I watched that part again and checked the website. He was talking fast so it was hard to catch. They have a different model with a 1000W mid-drive. This model has a 750W hub drive on each wheel, at 80 newton meters each. I guess that's why when you take it into rough terrain, it can suck down the battery so fast. I would definitely want a spare battery, but then you're into another $400 for that "get home insurance" in case you run down the first one playing in the rough. It looks like one of the standard types/sizes, but man I'd still want 15ah's if they would fit in the frame. Other than that, it looks like a solid ride.
I've got one, it is 350 front 250 rear. My battery is two years old and I've got 20 miles easy with room to spare. Plenty of power, I enjoy it very much on the beach
There are some really good reviews on this channel and lots of really useful information. BUT, for the life of me on this one I cannot understand why you didn't take the opportunity to ride the thing on the gravel. Seriously I wanted to see some gravel burning action riding (with a rider on the seat). Perhaps the company didn't want to get it dusty. Still, a lot of good info in this. Cheers.
No regen?... Lost opportunity. I would have designed it with a geared hub (high torque) for the back and a direct drive for the front to add to regen, especially considering the weight of the bike. We are working on a design for heavy towing... A super strong mid-drive bbshd and a regen enabled front hub motor to slow down and stop with. It will save us changing out our brake pads every month AND get some battery range!
That's a really neat concept, cool suggestion! Reach out when it's finished and we can film a review... maybe do a car-tow challenge or something fun :P
Except regen is nearly useless except for as you said motor braking. If you are stopping or slowing down more than you are riding then regen makes some sense but very few people ride in areas where this is a possibility. Regen is best utilized if you have a LOT of down hill ride and have to really use the brakes a lot. Otherwise its just s hipster spec that sounds cool. You will never get as much range extension fron regen as you can by dropping down a pas level and pedaling harder faster or more. If you can get seriously useful regen on an ebike then you probably could do what you are doing with it with a regular bike. When you use an ebike you are either charing it or discharging it. If you are charging the bike more than you discharge it then i fail to see the benefit of the ebike in that use case. Why not just use a regular bike. Unless its just for fun. Then i understand that.
160mm rotors and mechanical brakes isn’t going to cut it on a bike that heavy. I had to upgrade the brakes on my fat bike to 180. Interesting bike though with dual motors. I don’t understand why manufacturers put 160 rotors on fat bikes. It’s not like 180 costs that much more.
Good call, Tim. I'd love to see larger rotors and hydraulic on most full sized fat ebikes, but this one is also on the heavier side because of the dual motors so that seems like a great upgrade. Maybe in the future... I think it would be worth having them for an extra $100 on the price of the bike if needed, $1.8k still seems like a good deal
I agree Tim, the brakes aren't the best part on the bike. I imagined this bike as a slower crawler off-road, where you could get away with a bit less bite. But yeah, high speed on the road I would totally upgrade to better brakes. EUNORAU has that upgrade available on their site.
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
Does anyone know if these can be increased to go slightly faster?.. I have an opportunity to purchase a good one used from a neighbor... I was hoping for 25 to 28mph tho...
Looks like a pretty cool bike I'm afraid that the range wouldn't be far enough with a 10 amp power battery I have a rad Rover right now how does it compare power wise to that and range? Thanks.
Depends on the year model. Older rovers are 11.6 ah wich is only 10.6 more than this newer models are 13.something or 14.something which is 30 to 40% more. This is why people need to remember that these are ebikes not scooters or motorcycles. They are designed to be used with human effort, not just throttled. For example. My commute on my rad city is 14 miles. I have the older version with an 11.6 ah bat. I pedal in assist level 3 and pedal the whole way. My battery is dead when i get there. The battery is old too. But thats a pretty reasonable range. I would expect that something like this, with my heavy ass on it would get closer to 10 when ridden similarly. You have s heavier bike, and an additional motor with bigger heavier wheels and tires with more rolling resistance. This is advertised exactly how its meant to be used. As a trail or hunting bike. Its not meant for long range riding. Most hunters arent walking or riding 6 7 or 8 miles out to where they kill something, because thats slow going through thick forest. Then they have to drag something back that far too. So while some deffinitely do that, most are gonna be doing much lower distances and this will meet those needs just fine. If you need more range on something like this, you buy an additional battery. Weight is not likely to be one of your major concerns on something like this, so you just buy a back up or two. Plus having several smaller batteries is better than one big one as if that one big battery fails, you have none. Its possible to limp back home with lower assist level with one or a couple back up batteries tho.
First bike: that seat sux! I like everything else about the bike. I want a seat that holds my buns. Something padded. About 7 or 8 inches (front to back) by maybe 10 inches (left to right) 2 inches of foam. I WANT MY BUNS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE. (not that thing you got mounted to the seat-pipe).
Probably not much. It takes a certain number of watts to move the weight. Whether or not you use one motor, two or more wouldn't change things all that much unless you're continuously cranking the throttle.
Bad analogy. The larger chain ring gives you more horsepower (top end speed). A smaller chain ring would give you more torque (more acceleration but a lower top speed). I have to doubt the range capabilities with 1 small battery feeding 2 motors.
Chain ring has no effect on horsepower. It’s a gear ratio changer, like yo said, the larger one give you higher top speed but not as much torque, so up hills might be tough. It’s best to get mid drive, period. You still change gears and have awesome torque and speed any time.
Well here's the thing. You can just run the 250 watt motor alone. Or the 350 watt motor alone. Or both alone. Or both together. So in their defense yes they could've did the test with the 250watt motor alone which would make sense.
It can vary so much really. I'm getting great range as I use a brand new model in the California high desert. At least 12 miles, using 50% of my own pedaling power I got this model to mostly use on washboard sand roads with some blacktop and blm trails peppered in
Throttle on the left side? Bad idea. I've never heard of a company doing this. I've only heard of companies going with a right-hand throttle, e.g., GripShift, motorcycles, mopeds, and most other (or all?) e-bike companies.
@@rickymason3762 i have no problem with the throttle being on the left side ..it works great on the left....ive been seeing other companies putting it on the left side
Don't really know till you break it in anyway. And with the number of charging cycles these batteries should get... again, break it in before wondering about that stuff
why is that bike the exact same look as mines BPM F-95 17AH BLACK FRAME 1000W only diff is my light came mounted on the back rack and 160mm rotors and rear motor .. is that a copycat
No its not. Bike design to day is much like if you were building a bike at home. A designer picks a frame and a set of componenets and they get put together either factory overseas or they all show up at a place here and its assembled. This means that many bikes will look the same or similar because they are nearly all made from pre existing parts. There are custom designed frames and componenys but typically not at this price range. Additionally some makers dont sell direct to consumer at the retail level they make any of a range of combinations of parts and a seller either orders a lot of pre configured bikes or they order a custom configuration. Then either tbat maker or third party or the seller will do the custom badging and branding. Even more additionally, some companies will custom spec a bike cinfiguration, their order may be for a certain ammount of bikes and the maker may have a larger ammount of the parts or of certain parts and they may make additional units of the same or nearly same looking bikes that they then either sell themselves or sell to another company who then has their brand and badge put on them. So in a strict sense, yeah its a copycat but not really in the sense that someine designed something that was intended to be a protected design and then someone just stole it and made a cheaper lower quality version that they then sell as comparable with the original.
Totally agree, Easy Motion had one like this called the Big Bud and used a smaller lightweight hub motor for the front wheel. I got to test it on sand and rocks, it worked pretty well electricbikereview.com/?s=big+bud+pro
If you use 200 watts to accelerate, it doesn't matter much if you're using 1, 2, or more motors. Two 500 watt motors is pretty much the same as one 1000 watt one.
Idk if it is really worth it considering you can get a rad rover for 1700 and it has way better components it may not have awd but you really dont need it.
Brakes on Krafty bikes are dangerous in my opinion. Ask for data that proves they can handle weight. Also ask what the process is if your bike just stops working...
The brakes are fine. I ride hard and with only half brake power by default and the brakes on my brand new awd bike from eno... are excellent enough for all the hard-core I'll ever throw at it.
It’s just another ecell ebike with out the extra battery 🔋 my ecell bike weighs 92 lbs with two batteries 🔋, but I have added 25 extra lbs with cool 😎 stuff. My ecell ebike has full suspension so I am sure this one is a lot cheaper.
These awd bikes are fun unfortunately they are junk . I have one and have had botching but trouble with it and with Kevin Fang . The latest problem is the controller . They are junk and have gone through two of them as Kevin cant seem to send the right one leaving me on my own trying to make them work . They claim they will fix it if I drive it to a warehouse in Las Vegas or send it to them and pay shipping both ways , I call BS on that . Anyway , you have been warned by someone that actually owns one .
@@danyancey Yes this exact bike . I wrote a review on here about it 7 months or so ago and gave it decent reviews however the next month or so I started having all kinds of trouble with it and the people at BTN and haven't been able to ride it since . I guess my money is wasted .
@@dragally1 o wow sorry to hear that. I've been stuck on buying a rad rover for my daily driver. I also hunt though. I live in a really snowy rural area as well and I just saw this bike today. 6 months ago I lost my license for medical reasons. Just found a job near home been saving my money for an ebike and I just saw this bike today and I was interested. Guess I'm lucky I saw your review. I had to start working at Walmart so money is definitely tight. I see a ton of great reviews on rad bikes. Even ran into a couple people that let me ride their rad rover at the park by my house.
@@danyanceyI finally bought another bicycle and a BBSHD mid drive kit and put it together myself . I may put a mid drive in the fat bike but it's going to be a while . It's pretty easy to do and cheaper than this POS .
Total bullship total Bush yet who in the fat can't spin a tire on a goddam gravel come on dude You're killing me and all will drive that's what it does G thank you
lol, the suspension seatpost and fat tires actually help. The ultimate cushion would be those, as well as a dual suspension and a Sir-Mix-A-Lot size seat. Or, a recumbent trike is pretty nice too...
▪ Yes. It needs a dozen half naked broads dancing to Mario music while eating bananas in a sexy fashion. I'd watch it in foot locker if THAT were the case . 🟥
nope, If is going to be a 2wd it better have 500w in the front and 500w in the back otherwise is just a mimic because in sand most of the weight will be on the back and the front barely help as the tire just spins and hardly has any traction... for that kind of money you are already close to get a ariel 52v bike with superior quality all around . that`s my opinion after looking at many bikes .this one looks like a Frankenstein bike with cheap accessories from many other bikes that can`t cost more than $300/$400 so just the frame motors and tires valued at 1.2k ?
You're not wrong. I had one because I was a dealer for EUNORAU about 5 years ago. This was a sluggish, slow, heavy, dog of a bike. The only way to sell it was convert it to a 35 amp, 750W rear only hub motor. After that with the 48 volt battery it got up to about 28 mph. I bought it wholesale for under $1000 back then, used a lot of spare parts sold it for $1500. Broke even if you count my labor.
Sorry, but you can't start a review of an AWD bike next to a gravel incline and after doing the walk around conclude with an asphalt test. The are expectations to be met, you know?
Yeah I felt the same way I didn't get anything out of the damn review very disappointing
Mine will do 27.4 km on the full charge with very little peddling at around 35 km per hour. at that stage the battery is going down to the Redline. Quite honestly I think the bike is great Mine will do top speed 48 kph or 29.83 mph on the flat or 25 kph or15.53 mph on a hill I weigh 130 kg or 286.60 pound.
This seems ideal for a snow commute in the northeast USA! It would be nice to see it in snow on the video. Concerns about battery life should have been addressed in the video. The dual motors and ability to shift "on the fly" feels "revolutionary.
Thanks for the feedback. In the written review I do mention the range, but yeah, it'd be nice to have in the vid as well. Thanks!
Do they make studded tires?
Comparing this to the RadRover for a starting price of $1,500, without fenders or back rack. Radrover has the taillight wired into the battery, nicer looking display (I think), PAS level does not limit throttle (that I know of), throttle is opposite of interface (I think is a better layout as to not accidentally throttle when changing settings), and RadRover has a front shock which I think would help with off-roading.
I do not own a RadRover, but this is what I see through my observations.
What you said has no merit
One thing I wish they would do is test ride the bikes in the sand, snow and mud. Just cruising around a parking lot doesn't do it for me.
Gonna do a review from the California high desert asap. Just got one and I love it for the most part. Before this purchase I solely rode a mtn bike around
Only dislike (besides not giving the customer a bigger batty option) is the Display. Midwest snow Commuters are diggin this bike! Well done.
Thanks for this detailed review...This FAT AWD bike seems to be well constructed, functional and well priced...It would be interesting to see how well this machine performs over time and how it compares to something like the Rad Rover (which has a single motor in the rear).
For all you get it's a good deal . Bafang motors are fine with me
Most interesting drive system! Looks like you had more fun just burning out both tires.
YES!
Gosh, only a 10ah battery to run 2 motors? Great, 7 mile range. Might as well walk it.
and its probably 35 volt
@Eric Thompson I watched that part again and checked the website. He was talking fast so it was hard to catch. They have a different model with a 1000W mid-drive. This model has a 750W hub drive on each wheel, at 80 newton meters each. I guess that's why when you take it into rough terrain, it can suck down the battery so fast.
I would definitely want a spare battery, but then you're into another $400 for that "get home insurance" in case you run down the first one playing in the rough. It looks like one of the standard types/sizes, but man I'd still want 15ah's if they would fit in the frame.
Other than that, it looks like a solid ride.
I've got one, it is 350 front 250 rear.
My battery is two years old and I've got 20 miles easy with room to spare.
Plenty of power, I enjoy it very much on the beach
@Eric Thompson i think it has two 350s
There are some really good reviews on this channel and lots of really useful information.
BUT, for the life of me on this one I cannot understand why you didn't take the opportunity to ride the thing on the gravel.
Seriously I wanted to see some gravel burning action riding (with a rider on the seat).
Perhaps the company didn't want to get it dusty.
Still, a lot of good info in this.
Cheers.
Allan Thompson want to hear my experience with Krafty Bikes? 843-270-8326
No regen?... Lost opportunity. I would have designed it with a geared hub (high torque) for the back and a direct drive for the front to add to regen, especially considering the weight of the bike.
We are working on a design for heavy towing... A super strong mid-drive bbshd and a regen enabled front hub motor to slow down and stop with. It will save us changing out our brake pads every month AND get some battery range!
That's a really neat concept, cool suggestion! Reach out when it's finished and we can film a review... maybe do a car-tow challenge or something fun :P
Except regen is nearly useless except for as you said motor braking. If you are stopping or slowing down more than you are riding then regen makes some sense but very few people ride in areas where this is a possibility. Regen is best utilized if you have a LOT of down hill ride and have to really use the brakes a lot. Otherwise its just s hipster spec that sounds cool.
You will never get as much range extension fron regen as you can by dropping down a pas level and pedaling harder faster or more.
If you can get seriously useful regen on an ebike then you probably could do what you are doing with it with a regular bike. When you use an ebike you are either charing it or discharging it. If you are charging the bike more than you discharge it then i fail to see the benefit of the ebike in that use case. Why not just use a regular bike. Unless its just for fun. Then i understand that.
NEEDS integral front rack mounts, i.e.: RadRover and a couple others.
160mm rotors and mechanical brakes isn’t going to cut it on a bike that heavy. I had to upgrade the brakes on my fat bike to 180. Interesting bike though with dual motors. I don’t understand why manufacturers put 160 rotors on fat bikes. It’s not like 180 costs that much more.
Good call, Tim. I'd love to see larger rotors and hydraulic on most full sized fat ebikes, but this one is also on the heavier side because of the dual motors so that seems like a great upgrade. Maybe in the future... I think it would be worth having them for an extra $100 on the price of the bike if needed, $1.8k still seems like a good deal
I agree Tim, the brakes aren't the best part on the bike. I imagined this bike as a slower crawler off-road, where you could get away with a bit less bite. But yeah, high speed on the road I would totally upgrade to better brakes. EUNORAU has that upgrade available on their site.
The 160s work just fine on this bike .
Been riding this bike pretty hard for 130 miles in the California high desert and it is performing good to excellent. Review coming asap
the notification says "$2.3k " did they just lower the price ?? thats a dang good savings if so
Thanks for the generosity Burris N Joe..
An ebike with this much power should have hydraulic 180mm disc brakes at minimum.
Sand. Soft sand too. And climbing mountains... AWD stuff. My little folder could go everywhere this bike did.
Maybe do a trailer test with different weight too.
Looks like an awesome off-roader. It would be great if I could get one in New Zealand. Nice review buddy.
Oh man, you live in NZ?! That's awesome, would be a great place to film a review... ride from the snow down to the sand on the beach :D
@@ElectricBikeReview You would love it, some epic trails to ride 👍
Nice review but hard to hear. Instead of recording next to the airport, consider recording at an NHRA unlimited funny car competition.
lol
I wanted to wait for an outdoor concert, but I couldn't decide between tribute band for Alvin and the Chipmunks and Tiny Tim.
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
Does anyone know if these can be increased to go slightly faster?.. I have an opportunity to purchase a good one used from a neighbor... I was hoping for 25 to 28mph tho...
Mine will do 48 kph or 29.83 mph on the flat or 25 kph or15.53 mph on a hill I weigh 130 kg or 286.60 pound
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By itself, or do you need to customize it in some kind of way ?
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The company website has downloads in which one can find the various settings in the system
Looks like a pretty cool bike I'm afraid that the range wouldn't be far enough with a 10 amp power battery I have a rad Rover right now how does it compare power wise to that and range? Thanks.
Depends on the year model. Older rovers are 11.6 ah wich is only 10.6 more than this newer models are 13.something or 14.something which is 30 to 40% more.
This is why people need to remember that these are ebikes not scooters or motorcycles. They are designed to be used with human effort, not just throttled.
For example. My commute on my rad city is 14 miles. I have the older version with an 11.6 ah bat. I pedal in assist level 3 and pedal the whole way. My battery is dead when i get there. The battery is old too. But thats a pretty reasonable range. I would expect that something like this, with my heavy ass on it would get closer to 10 when ridden similarly.
You have s heavier bike, and an additional motor with bigger heavier wheels and tires with more rolling resistance. This is advertised exactly how its meant to be used. As a trail or hunting bike. Its not meant for long range riding. Most hunters arent walking or riding 6 7 or 8 miles out to where they kill something, because thats slow going through thick forest. Then they have to drag something back that far too.
So while some deffinitely do that, most are gonna be doing much lower distances and this will meet those needs just fine. If you need more range on something like this, you buy an additional battery. Weight is not likely to be one of your major concerns on something like this, so you just buy a back up or two. Plus having several smaller batteries is better than one big one as if that one big battery fails, you have none. Its possible to limp back home with lower assist level with one or a couple back up batteries tho.
First bike: that seat sux! I like everything else about the bike. I want a seat that holds my buns. Something padded. About 7 or 8 inches (front to back) by maybe 10 inches (left to right) 2 inches of foam. I WANT MY BUNS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE. (not that thing you got mounted to the seat-pipe).
I need this... i don't wanna ride my non electric kick scooter to the gym anymore lol
It's a neat concept and the bike looks pretty cool in all-black. Do you live somewhere that it snows?
Thanks Mike,
Will dual motor reduce the range of travel of battery (here 10Ah) by half??
It will reduce the range, using two motors instead of one, but I don't think it would be as bad as half.
Probably not much. It takes a certain number of watts to move the weight. Whether or not you use one motor, two or more wouldn't change things all that much unless you're continuously cranking the throttle.
I've been looking on their website and they have a 25 amp hour battery with is optional which would be great for a comuter bike
Bad analogy. The larger chain ring gives you more horsepower (top end speed). A smaller chain ring would give you more torque (more acceleration but a lower top speed).
I have to doubt the range capabilities with 1 small battery feeding 2 motors.
Chain ring has no effect on horsepower. It’s a gear ratio changer, like yo said, the larger one give you higher top speed but not as much torque, so up hills might be tough. It’s best to get mid drive, period. You still change gears and have awesome torque and speed any time.
Well here's the thing. You can just run the 250 watt motor alone. Or the 350 watt motor alone. Or both alone. Or both together. So in their defense yes they could've did the test with the 250watt motor alone which would make sense.
Dual motor means dual powering.. how many miles can you do with one battery?
It can vary so much really. I'm getting great range as I use a brand new model in the California high desert.
At least 12 miles, using 50% of my own pedaling power
I got this model to mostly use on washboard sand roads with some blacktop and blm trails peppered in
Good review, very intriguing with dual motors. Hands on the pedals??? Funny.
Throttle on the left side? Bad idea. I've never heard of a company doing this. I've only heard of companies going with a right-hand throttle, e.g., GripShift, motorcycles, mopeds, and most other (or all?) e-bike companies.
I've seen a couple of left-mounted throttles, but agree that right is way more common and natural for most people.
BPM bikes are like this on the left side ...i have the f-95 1000 watts rear 48v .. 30 mph
I suppose the throttle could be swapped left/right with the motor selector. Having them on opposing sides worked very well for me.
No kidding what kind of moron designs a bike with the throttle on the left side??!!
@@rickymason3762 i have no problem with the throttle being on the left side ..it works great on the left....ive been seeing other companies putting it on the left side
Would have been nice if he talked about the motors or battery at all
9:24 talks about electrics
Don't really know till you break it in anyway. And with the number of charging cycles these batteries should get... again, break it in before wondering about that stuff
why is that bike the exact same look as mines BPM F-95 17AH BLACK FRAME 1000W only diff is my light came mounted on the back rack and 160mm rotors and rear motor .. is that a copycat
No its not. Bike design to day is much like if you were building a bike at home. A designer picks a frame and a set of componenets and they get put together either factory overseas or they all show up at a place here and its assembled. This means that many bikes will look the same or similar because they are nearly all made from pre existing parts. There are custom designed frames and componenys but typically not at this price range. Additionally some makers dont sell direct to consumer at the retail level they make any of a range of combinations of parts and a seller either orders a lot of pre configured bikes or they order a custom configuration. Then either tbat maker or third party or the seller will do the custom badging and branding. Even more additionally, some companies will custom spec a bike cinfiguration, their order may be for a certain ammount of bikes and the maker may have a larger ammount of the parts or of certain parts and they may make additional units of the same or nearly same looking bikes that they then either sell themselves or sell to another company who then has their brand and badge put on them. So in a strict sense, yeah its a copycat but not really in the sense that someine designed something that was intended to be a protected design and then someone just stole it and made a cheaper lower quality version that they then sell as comparable with the original.
This isnt a 1000w set up. Nor is it 17ah. Its a different configuration on a similar frame.
Dual motor fat tire bike... Very cool
Totally agree, Easy Motion had one like this called the Big Bud and used a smaller lightweight hub motor for the front wheel. I got to test it on sand and rocks, it worked pretty well electricbikereview.com/?s=big+bud+pro
Larger chain wheel gives you less torque and higher top speed. Not the other way around.
Does using both motor increase battery usage????
If you use 200 watts to accelerate, it doesn't matter much if you're using 1, 2, or more motors. Two 500 watt motors is pretty much the same as one 1000 watt one.
What am I missing.....if I have 2 motors, why would I want to pedal?
What are you missing? I would say common sense.
On ALL ebikes you pedal to help save battery power.
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I'm looking into getting an ebike.
And I'm definitely gonna buy another battery or two, because my knees HATE me.
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@15:02 BEST PART of vid --- *BURNOUT*
Its a commuter for norther Minnesota where I am
Nice review dude!! Did I miss it though why you cant mention the power for the front and rear motors?
350 rear 250 front
@@facts-GPT cool
boostercontrol100 I didn’t hear it either. You would think it would be stated at the beginning since It’s a 2wd bike.
2wd awsome lol
Have you guys done a review on the new Lectric xp?
Website link broken...FYI
Thanks for the shout out! ;)
Hmm, thanks for the heads up, seems to be working on my end electricbikereview.com/eunorau/fat-awd/ still having issues?
@@ElectricBikeReview no luck still not working An unexpected error occurred. Please try again later.
@@ElectricBikeReview same error for me too.
If it's designed for off-roading, at least it should have the front fork shock?...IMHO.
Idk if it is really worth it considering you can get a rad rover for 1700 and it has way better components it may not have awd but you really dont need it.
Hi Wayne, Mikey recorded the wrong price... EUNORAU reached out to me to have it updated, so apparently the FAT-AWD is priced at $1,700 too.
A rear wheel drive only where I live would be money wasted...
Review coming asap
Did you mean a solid fork as a euphemism for strong, or meaning that it is not a hollow tube construction?
I'm pretty sure the tubes are hallow, but the fork has no suspension, and so I called it 'solid'. I've heard 'stiff' and 'rigid' as well.
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Brakes on Krafty bikes are dangerous in my opinion. Ask for data that proves they can handle weight. Also ask what the process is if your bike just stops working...
The brakes are fine. I ride hard and with only half brake power by default and the brakes on my brand new awd bike from eno... are excellent enough for all the hard-core I'll ever throw at it.
It’s just another ecell ebike with out the extra battery 🔋 my ecell bike weighs 92 lbs with two batteries 🔋, but I have added 25 extra lbs with cool 😎 stuff. My ecell ebike has full suspension so I am sure this one is a lot cheaper.
How long have you owned the ecell? And miles ?
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All your reviews are full of useless wording and
useless information. Irritating.
Seems like fat tires are just for show. Not all that practical. I wonder if they have an increased chance of getting flats.
Fat tires have some great uses, and for a dual motor bike, it's a big improvement.
Looks like a Rad Rhino with a different front wheel
Watch that standover height!
These awd bikes are fun unfortunately they are junk . I have one and have had botching but trouble with it and with Kevin Fang . The latest problem is the controller . They are junk and have gone through two of them as Kevin cant seem to send the right one leaving me on my own trying to make them work . They claim they will fix it if I drive it to a warehouse in Las Vegas or send it to them and pay shipping both ways , I call BS on that . Anyway , you have been warned by someone that actually owns one .
This exact bike?
@@danyancey Yes this exact bike . I wrote a review on here about it 7 months or so ago and gave it decent reviews however the next month or so I started having all kinds of trouble with it and the people at BTN and haven't been able to ride it since . I guess my money is wasted .
@@dragally1 o wow sorry to hear that. I've been stuck on buying a rad rover for my daily driver. I also hunt though. I live in a really snowy rural area as well and I just saw this bike today. 6 months ago I lost my license for medical reasons. Just found a job near home been saving my money for an ebike and I just saw this bike today and I was interested. Guess I'm lucky I saw your review. I had to start working at Walmart so money is definitely tight. I see a ton of great reviews on rad bikes. Even ran into a couple people that let me ride their rad rover at the park by my house.
@@danyanceyI finally bought another bicycle and a BBSHD mid drive kit and put it together myself . I may put a mid drive in the fat bike but it's going to be a while . It's pretty easy to do and cheaper than this POS .
Total bullship total Bush yet who in the fat can't spin a tire on a goddam gravel come on dude You're killing me and all will drive that's what it does G thank you
why talk while ride and not show the bike?😳
Thanks for posting sure is a long long introduction
a bike with zero suspension is asking to have a serious butthurt after cycling
lol, the suspension seatpost and fat tires actually help. The ultimate cushion would be those, as well as a dual suspension and a Sir-Mix-A-Lot size seat. Or, a recumbent trike is pretty nice too...
What a stupid thing to say.
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thats a lot for the money, aint it ?
Yeah, that's how I feel too!
Just paid $1727.00 to the door. Overall worth every penny
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Snow needed ...... !!
This review is boring !!!
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Yes. It needs a dozen half naked broads dancing to Mario music while eating bananas in a sexy fashion.
I'd watch it in foot locker if THAT were the case .
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I like very much, say it in (borat voice)
Everything on this bike is cheap really cheap.
Piss poor review.
nope, If is going to be a 2wd it better have 500w in the front and 500w in the back otherwise is just a mimic because in sand most of the weight will be on the back and the front barely help as the tire just spins and hardly has any traction... for that kind of money you are already close to get a ariel 52v bike with superior quality all around . that`s my opinion after looking at many bikes .this one looks like a Frankenstein bike with cheap accessories from many other bikes that can`t cost more than $300/$400 so just the frame motors and tires valued at 1.2k ?
You're not wrong. I had one because I was a dealer for EUNORAU about 5 years ago. This was a sluggish, slow, heavy, dog of a bike. The only way to sell it was convert it to a 35 amp, 750W rear only hub motor. After that with the 48 volt battery it got up to about 28 mph. I bought it wholesale for under $1000 back then, used a lot of spare parts sold it for $1500. Broke even if you count my labor.