7:45 let’s not ignore the impending duel between these two wild trucks trying to establish dominance. It is an intense stare down. That must’ve been quite the battle.
Oh My God! 15 AMP Hour battery! Wow! Range on a full charge both motors open throttle? 12 Miles? No turn signals , no mirrors, no rear suspension, no seat post shock, barely call that a brake light. How much? hmmm.
I've put 500km on this bike. If you aren't going full speed in the sand it lasts 40-50km. My average speed is currently 33km/h but I ride at 38 dual motor. Here in Canada it's extremely well priced as competition is limited.
@@brockmerrill7441 I have the dual motor Zeegr S1 from Boomebike. It outperforms this bike, has lights, signals, a rack, a 22amp/hr battery, full suspension. I also live in Canada and got it delivered for less than this one (with exchange!).
I have the dual motor Zeegr S1 from Boomebike. It outperforms this bike, has lights, signals, a rack, a 22amp/hr battery, full suspension. I live in Canada and got it delivered for less than this one (with exchange!). Mine was shipped from Montreal.
@@whoanelly- Been loving it. Just took it out today for a 2 hour ride with my son riding another manufacturer's bike. The Zeegr outperformed in every way. Along our normal route is a large hill - probably 300' high at about a 30% grade. The path is rough dirt. The Zeegr not only climbed the hill easily but did it spinning the front wheel and accelerating. I had to throttle back to keep it under control. Aside from having to tighten the fender and rack attachment bolts a few times I can't complain about anything. I'm going to get some thread locker compound and apply it to these bolts soon. I would not hesitate to recommend this bike and am perfectly happy with it.
Not to be critical but only Two 500 watt motors for $1799 is a bit expensive when the 2000 watt Nominal (3000 watt peak) Philodo H8 you tested a few montyhs ago mon Amazon or through the website for $1399. Also Any chance of you reviewing the new Philodo Jumbo model?
5:46 Matt, you ever wear those Nikes outside? They look as sparkling white and clean as they did a month ago. Those must be your OTA* shoes. * "On The Air"
I was a Eunorau dealer for a bit years ago. I bought some initial inventory, which included the original FAT AWD. It was an impossible sell in Florida, even with the beach riders. It was not even close to the new version, this one looks much better. Mine had smaller hub motors, no suspension and the frame was not as long as the new version. I finally sold it after I converted it to a single rear 750W hub motor with a 35 amp controller and added a suspension fork and hydraulic brakes.
Try to use Off Insect repellant on the skid marks on the floor. Spray on heavy then wipe with a towel. It works on Sharpie markers. So skid mark should be easy.
1.8K - for THIS? The battery falling out of its casing at 1:13 showed me everything i needed to see. Dual motors paired with dollar store accessories and other necessities missing altogether, make for one bizarre bike. Who designed this turd in camo anyway - former engineers at Yugo? A shame Matt was so nice about it all. For this much, I could ride the LA Metro - daily - for nearly THREE years! Barnum was right.
As a US military Veteran, I'd like to see these bikes with a camo version available (and for good measure, perhaps some machine gun mounts, although I duly note that may be a bit extreme, and worst case, gets ATF whiskers going haywire).
Has anyone done the calcs with recent numbers to determine the most efficient form of electric travel? Last time I checked it was either a bike or bus.
Good review! Compared to a $2000 Wired Freedom, this bike seems about $799 overpriced. (p.s. I was also curious are the controller's currents set to like 12A, instead of 20A in the Advanced Settings menu?)
why does everyone keep comparing bikes to the Wired F lol its just a high speced bike that goes fast. it looks terrible and its made with cheap china parts. read the real reviews on the Wired Freedom and you wont buy from that sketchy company lol
Clearly overpriced for what you get. I've seen other dual motors that offer as much or more for around $400 less. Thanks for the review! At least I know what not to buy.
The only problem with the bike is, it doesn't have nearly enough power in the rear wheel to justify adding a front motor, this bike would do better with just one good motor in the back, instead of two crappy ones.
@@musicah8496Absolutly not. For this price point get a good hardtail nd put a Suntour NCX suspension seatpost on it. Those cheap crappy dual suspension bikes are made to fail. But hey, some need to learn it the hard way. ✌️
@@Benjamin_Jehne so youre telling me a suspension seat post will feel better than a back suspension? lol... Second, absolutely should be encessary at this price point. Why can't we have dual suspension + suspension seat post if we really wanted it? makes no sense...
@@musicah8496 There is a huge difference between a cheap rear suspension and an expensive one. The thing is, most quality dampers aren’t made for heavy riders. So you end up with some questionable dampers from no name brands. Second point is the construction itself. What bearings are used, does the construction overloads the single parts. Just remember, these bikes are made in China by companies, that don’t even exist 5 years ago and have no reputation in those bikes. They copy from other brands and cobine it with the cheapest parts but no one knows if these constructions will last. You will be the one who has to maintain these bikes. And if you’re not super rich and be able to buy a bike every two years, you should have an eye on simple things like the suspension. A suspension seatpost isn’t the same like a rear suspension, but is half the way and for most customers this is way more than enough. Especially parallelogram suspension seatposts are like riding a wave. If something starts to creak, just give it some grease and if it’s done, change it out. As easy it is. A rear suspension is the complete opposite. To even find the point where the problem comes from is such a joy. I own both and even expensive fullys start to creak after some time. Mostly because they’re getting hardly abused. But they will not fail as quick. Please don’t underestimate the whole topic. It’s a questionable trend in the US and as there is no real bike culture, and people tend to step into traps like this. It’s only cheap on paper or as we say in Germany, if you buy cheap, you buy twice.
@@Benjamin_Jehne lol, there are US based companies who assemble the bikes in the US like E-cells who provide lifetime warrranty on bikes frames etc... so yeah... the market is oversatujrated with crap but that does not mean it should not move forward... Like any sensible person, you should be a smart consumer but I was responding to your point that you prefer hardtail at that pricepoint with a suspension seatpost. What about moving the industry to push what is provided for us at that price point. It just takes a bit of research and you can find companies in the US like E-cells. Not sure how it is over there however...
Not enough battery power for a 2 wheel drive bike. My E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown 2 wheel drive, has 2 batteries (downtime and under the rear rack) and DUAL SUSPENSION.Plus it has much better quality components.
The e-bike retailers know consumers will usually opt to purchase a second battery. So the smart move for the retailer: list the bike with a single battery and offer the second battery as an option. End result, the retailer makes an additional profit that could not be realized if the bike is initially listed with dual batteries. Moreover, if the second battery was included as standard equipment, so to speak, the consumer won't expect to pay for it. He is still going to want the bike for a lesser price. Bottom Line: This is a typical sales gimmick, especially in vehicle sales. List the e-bike at a reasonable price (that draws in the prospective buyer), then against extra charge offer a bunch of options/extras, some that are essential. Mark my words, we are going to see the day when the e-bike retailer offers "Flat Out Tire Sealant" professionally installed in the tires, against extra charge, of course. Just my opinion.
That bike doesn't qualify as even a class 3 so it is illegal for you to use bike lanes or take it on sidewalks or beaches. You're a menace to the ebike community.
2:52 That tail light that points nearly straight up is hilarious.
Any somewhat L-shaped thing would have solved the problem...
7:45 let’s not ignore the impending duel between these two wild trucks trying to establish dominance. It is an intense stare down. That must’ve been quite the battle.
Oh My God! 15 AMP Hour battery! Wow! Range on a full charge both motors open throttle? 12 Miles? No turn signals , no mirrors, no rear suspension, no seat post shock, barely call that a brake light. How much? hmmm.
I've put 500km on this bike. If you aren't going full speed in the sand it lasts 40-50km. My average speed is currently 33km/h but I ride at 38 dual motor. Here in Canada it's extremely well priced as competition is limited.
@@brockmerrill7441that’s not good.
@@brockmerrill7441 I have the dual motor Zeegr S1 from Boomebike. It outperforms this bike, has lights, signals, a rack, a 22amp/hr battery, full suspension. I also live in Canada and got it delivered for less than this one (with exchange!).
You suck
I much prefer my philodo h8. Its a dual motor, but only uses both motors when you throttle, otherwise you get great range in pedal assist 4 and below.
I HAVE THIS BIKE. DUAL MOTOR MODE IS THE BOMB.
15 AMP Hour battery on dual motor is not good. 20 or more you would find on most dual motors bikes.
I have the dual motor Zeegr S1 from Boomebike. It outperforms this bike, has lights, signals, a rack, a 22amp/hr battery, full suspension. I live in Canada and got it delivered for less than this one (with exchange!). Mine was shipped from Montreal.
you been liking that bike?
@@whoanelly- Been loving it. Just took it out today for a 2 hour ride with my son riding another manufacturer's bike. The Zeegr outperformed in every way. Along our normal route is a large hill - probably 300' high at about a 30% grade. The path is rough dirt. The Zeegr not only climbed the hill easily but did it spinning the front wheel and accelerating. I had to throttle back to keep it under control. Aside from having to tighten the fender and rack attachment bolts a few times I can't complain about anything. I'm going to get some thread locker compound and apply it to these bolts soon. I would not hesitate to recommend this bike and am perfectly happy with it.
do u need any licence to drive it in canada
@@frrad Ah.....no!
May I know where you order yours?
Far too much enthusiasm for 9am on a Sunday morning, greetings from the UK, appreciate the content!
not everyone is an alcoholic !
Crazy dude at 13:12 doesn't even draw a comment....😉🤣😂
It’s Venice, CA and vicinity. He must see more crazy dudes than time allows him to comment. 😵💫
@@wayneklayman1793 🎯🤣
He's actually one of the more normal ones.
That's James Brown show some respect
Not to be critical but only Two 500 watt motors for $1799 is a bit expensive when the 2000 watt Nominal (3000 watt peak) Philodo H8 you tested a few montyhs ago mon Amazon or through the website for $1399. Also Any chance of you reviewing the new Philodo Jumbo model?
5:46 Matt, you ever wear those Nikes outside? They look as sparkling white and clean as they did a month ago. Those must be your OTA* shoes.
* "On The Air"
He's a city boy lol, he don't see any real dirt.
I was a Eunorau dealer for a bit years ago. I bought some initial inventory, which included the original FAT AWD. It was an impossible sell in Florida, even with the beach riders. It was not even close to the new version, this one looks much better. Mine had smaller hub motors, no suspension and the frame was not as long as the new version. I finally sold it after I converted it to a single rear 750W hub motor with a 35 amp controller and added a suspension fork and hydraulic brakes.
seems like a lot of work to just sell it
@@mikec4308 Luckily I had most of the parts from other bikes I upgraded and I bought it wholesale, so I still made a couple bucks on it.
Try to use Off Insect repellant on the skid marks on the floor. Spray on heavy then wipe with a towel. It works on Sharpie markers. So skid mark should be easy.
left hand throttle so you can aim your weapon as you stealthily creep up on game with your camoflauge ebike. they thought of everything.
I can see dual 20 amp controller's. They usually are good for 28 mph and on single 750s.. so dual 500s should be 28 mph or so
1.8K - for THIS?
The battery falling out of its casing at 1:13 showed me everything i needed to see. Dual motors paired with dollar store accessories and other necessities missing altogether, make for one bizarre bike. Who designed this turd in camo anyway - former engineers at Yugo?
A shame Matt was so nice about it all. For this much, I could ride the LA Metro - daily - for nearly THREE years!
Barnum was right.
6'6" 300 pounds here, what would be your best bet for a nice comfortable and capable electric bike?
Was wondering why I wasn’t seeing any more of your videos. Turns out i wasn’t even subscribed… I fixed that 😊
As a US military Veteran, I'd like to see these bikes with a camo version available (and for good measure, perhaps some machine gun mounts, although I duly note that may be a bit extreme, and worst case, gets ATF whiskers going haywire).
Can you review the roll road Emma 3.0
cool review thank you
One of the better-looking bikes you've reviewed lately.
Now that I have a fast scooter my bike wants have changed and a slow dual motor mountain bike that can run over stuff sounds relaxing.
Another Great Video!!!!
That's a Backbreaker for sure.
Has anyone done the calcs with recent numbers to determine the most efficient form of electric travel? Last time I checked it was either a bike or bus.
Could you review the Walfisk Black Warrior/ZPW ET-7 EBike next? I've only seen an Area 13 video on it and it looks interesting.
Looks like fun and good on the sand.
All AWD ebikes have a controller for each motor. There are some single controllers that have 2 controllers built in one box.
3 months to deliver a step through. Not happening. Too bad. I like it.
Try using Mr. Clean magic eraser on your burn out marks on your floor, might get rid of those !!
Seems like a good bike for short rides in a hilly area.
Good review! Compared to a $2000 Wired Freedom, this bike seems about $799 overpriced. (p.s. I was also curious are the controller's currents set to like 12A, instead of 20A in the Advanced Settings menu?)
why does everyone keep comparing bikes to the Wired F lol its just a high speced bike that goes fast. it looks terrible and its made with cheap china parts. read the real reviews on the Wired Freedom and you wont buy from that sketchy company lol
DO A VIDEO ON THE NEW WIRED FREEDOM/CRUISER !
What app do you use for the GPS speedometer?
Strava. He says in the beginning.
Do u ever review any 29 inch bikes?
Manhattan Beach to Santa Monica !!
A second battery with a 20amp controller? Idk
Clearly overpriced for what you get. I've seen other dual motors that offer as much or more for around $400 less. Thanks for the review! At least I know what not to buy.
The Shengmilo S600 looks to be a less expensive better dual motor ebike.
Great video… eh bike , I got the WALLKE H9 AWD and I love it !!! 100 bucks more than this bike and 100% more bike !
Just call that one the apartment incline.
The only problem with the bike is, it doesn't have nearly enough power in the rear wheel to justify adding a front motor, this bike would do better with just one good motor in the back, instead of two crappy ones.
00:05 brief video corruption with audio dropout at the start of the video. bad upload.
That hard tail is no good for me I'm only interested in plush riding ebikes from here on out.
There are way better bikes at this price point for sure and dual suspension should really be a must at that pricepoint
@@musicah8496Absolutly not. For this price point get a good hardtail nd put a Suntour NCX suspension seatpost on it. Those cheap crappy dual suspension bikes are made to fail. But hey, some need to learn it the hard way. ✌️
@@Benjamin_Jehne so youre telling me a suspension seat post will feel better than a back suspension? lol...
Second, absolutely should be encessary at this price point. Why can't we have dual suspension + suspension seat post if we really wanted it? makes no sense...
@@musicah8496
There is a huge difference between a cheap rear suspension and an expensive one. The thing is, most quality dampers aren’t made for heavy riders. So you end up with some questionable dampers from no name brands.
Second point is the construction itself. What bearings are used, does the construction overloads the single parts. Just remember, these bikes are made in China by companies, that don’t even exist 5 years ago and have no reputation in those bikes. They copy from other brands and cobine it with the cheapest parts but no one knows if these constructions will last.
You will be the one who has to maintain these bikes. And if you’re not super rich and be able to buy a bike every two years, you should have an eye on simple things like the suspension.
A suspension seatpost isn’t the same like a rear suspension, but is half the way and for most customers this is way more than enough. Especially parallelogram suspension seatposts are like riding a wave. If something starts to creak, just give it some grease and if it’s done, change it out. As easy it is.
A rear suspension is the complete opposite. To even find the point where the problem comes from is such a joy.
I own both and even expensive fullys start to creak after some time. Mostly because they’re getting hardly abused. But they will not fail as quick.
Please don’t underestimate the whole topic. It’s a questionable trend in the US and as there is no real bike culture, and people tend to step into traps like this.
It’s only cheap on paper or as we say in Germany, if you buy cheap, you buy twice.
@@Benjamin_Jehne lol, there are US based companies who assemble the bikes in the US like E-cells who provide lifetime warrranty on bikes frames etc... so yeah... the market is oversatujrated with crap but that does not mean it should not move forward... Like any sensible person, you should be a smart consumer but I was responding to your point that you prefer hardtail at that pricepoint with a suspension seatpost. What about moving the industry to push what is provided for us at that price point. It just takes a bit of research and you can find companies in the US like E-cells. Not sure how it is over there however...
1900watts is nearlly 40amps, so it must have dual 20amp controllers
Not enough battery power for a 2 wheel drive bike.
My E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown 2 wheel drive, has 2 batteries (downtime and under the rear rack) and DUAL SUSPENSION.Plus it has much better quality components.
video 19 of asking for your himway e bike
Nice phatty Matt 🤙!!
Mashallah ❤❤❤ first
Tiny battery on a DUAL MOTOR bike? 15ah won’t even last long on a single motor bike lol
a 15ah on a 500w motor can last 20 miles at full speed or 45 miles at 20 mph. Definitely not too bad
The e-bike retailers know consumers will usually opt to purchase a second battery. So the smart move for the retailer: list the bike with a single battery and offer the second battery as an option.
End result, the retailer makes an additional profit that could not be realized if the bike is initially listed with dual batteries. Moreover, if the second battery was included as standard equipment, so to speak, the consumer won't expect to pay for it. He is still going to want the bike for a lesser price.
Bottom Line: This is a typical sales gimmick, especially in vehicle sales. List the e-bike at a reasonable price (that draws in the prospective buyer), then against extra charge offer a bunch of options/extras, some that are essential.
Mark my words, we are going to see the day when the e-bike retailer offers "Flat Out Tire Sealant" professionally installed in the tires, against extra charge, of course.
Just my opinion.
Sorry. this thing was antiquated prior to it's release.
Wouldn't want it if it was 500 dollars.
Better to carry an extra battery!
No rear suspension was a major deadend
As always with these ebikes, the gearing is atrocious.
Should be using an 8-9 speed 11-36t cassette instead of a 14-28t freewheel.
900$ bike smh
2amp charger 😂😢😂
Got a gas hog truck, get an electricity hog ebike
LOL.......who comes up with these names. ROFL....Needs 2 dinky taillights
Too much $$
That bike doesn't qualify as even a class 3 so it is illegal for you to use bike lanes or take it on sidewalks or beaches. You're a menace to the ebike community.
I agree, you should call the police and try to trace him so he can be arrested.California has so many issues, but THIS? unacceptable
Ok, Karen !!
Who else gets Rob Schneider vibes watching this guy?
Kenny G