Would you give Bellingham the Ballon d'Or if England wins the Euros or reaches the final with a good performance from him while Vinicius and Brazil are knocked out of the Copa America at the quarter final stage or earlier as you predict?
What a BS agenda I know Vini and Jude are not at their Best like we saw at Real Madrid but it's not only Vini and Jude are underperforming, entire Brazil and England squad is underperforming But you will only target Vini and Jude Brazil's midfield is so mediocre that they can't even hold the ball properly vs Costa Rica game 2-3 players were marking on Vini, in first 20 mins Vini gone through these 2-3 player and deliver 4 crosses in box But there is no player had good position to receive those crosses in the box So, you guys are expecting Vini to dribble past 2-3 players at wing and then get space in front of 2 CB and shoot past GK in one go? Just 1 game has completed, and you have started your hate agenda Don't worry, Vini has seen lot worse rainy days, and he has overcome a lot to achieve his current success and he will sooner or later do it again to shut you haters
Dude, the topic is about RM players so he is going to talk about them. And Vini has done nothing for Brazil yet, that might change in the future but at the moment they are bang average.
Obviously we’re gonna target the two players that are favorites to win the Balon Dor. For all the hype they get from everyone, they shouldn’t be playing this sh!tty. Both Vini and Bellingham lost possession the most times for their National teams today and yesterday. Just admit that they are both overrated, I’m not saying they are terrible but they definitely aren’t any better than Wirtz or Musiala. Vini and Bellingham are nothing special at all!!!
What’s funny is I had nothing to do with the hate nor stated anything bad towards him other than he never really has performed for Brazil yet. Not sure why you’re so upset? I didn’t start the narrative, I’m simply talking about what is being said. You are acting like people are literally attacking you and this attack at me is complete and utter nonsense. I have praised vini countless of times this year btw.. smh
The truth is in our subconscious mind, we're comparing Vini to Neymar and rightly so because you can argue they are both wingers. But the honest truth is, Vini isn't at Neymar's talent level. While it is true that he's always been poor when playing for Brazil, Brazil as a team has been entirely bad for a long time. Rodrygo"s issue is, he's constantly played outta his preferred position and that can really affect any player's performance (take Benzeman for an example). For Bellingham, I think his problem is the standard he sets for himself in the 1st half of last season and he's been judged on that forgetting he's a midfield hustler and not a goal scorer. Talking about players being system players, I think we should be referring to Barca players and Man city players under guardiola. The whole world has consistently said Real Madrid does not have a system, how come the players are now referred to as system players?
Messi at 2010 WC = 0 NPG Messi at 2015,16,19 = 0 NPG Vini scored 2 goals bro. Moreover Real doesn't have a system. All they do is use wingers to put in crosses. Brazil just doesn't have a good midfield that can hold the ball and when Vini gets triple-teamed, he loses the ball.
Is there any system exist in real madrid😂😂.... Real madrid players don't know the meaning of system... They can perform world class if they are freedom to go anywhere in the pitch which is not possible in national team.
As a RM fan, I think Vini’s substitution vs Costa Rica definitely hurt his stock a little bit and was justified..but it could be the kick he needs to not be complacent and raise his level again.
When Casimiro went to Man Utd, I feel like it showed very clearly that world class is not necessarily world class, when removed from the proper environment.
Kroos has clearly played a big part in making him shine. He's worked hard though but not convincing as a candidate. He needs to keep growing in every area of his career.
@@grettfc it really is, I think he's got at least 2-3 more years at the top but we'll respect his decision. I love that Coach Ancelotti left the door open for him.
Bro you really know football I like your honesty everything you said is true am also very disappointed in two of our players Bellingham and Vin so I think we have to be patient with them because I feel because the world is looking up to them they feel underpressure unlike other players the likes of Rodrigo they're free like they have nothing to lose but for these two they've everything to lose, all the same we can be patient but it will cost them balloon d'or
As long as Madrid continues to win La liga and especially the champions league their players will always be in the ballon d’or conversation. Barca I think has some players that are better than some real Madrid players but if barca doesn’t win the champions league and/or la liga then madrid players will be regarded as better. Unless yamal scores more goals than mbappe or vini which I doubt it.
Real Madrid is becoming more and more stronger they are constantly improving to stay ahead in race Just look at the CB position Nacho left Yoro likely to come in CBs - Rudiger, Militao, Alaba, Yoro Rudiger and Militao will be starting Yoro will have steady season or two to adapt in Real Madrid gameplay (Just like Militao did when he joined Real Madrid and played season under Ramos and Varane) In case of player unavailability Tchoumeni is there to start as CB Real Madrid is very good in planning like this
The thing is at Real Madrid Carlo Ancelotti gives his players freedom, they use their talent to the max. But at their national teams its different. Bellingham has to play in his natural position as a CM, that's why England is struggling. Bellingham is not a number 10 so the earlier he drops into the midfield position the better coz next season he will play as midfielder and he will not score as many goals he scored this season.
Rodrygo, Aurélien Tchouaméni and Eduardo Camavinga are system players? Rodrygo as never been given the freedom to play his best and when they put him out on the LW to play Vini Jr he as never failed. Aurélien Tchouaméni i must admit as been out injured a lot but when ever he plays does his job well both as CDM and at CB. Now those two position takes discipline and he as prove that so i don't think he would have a problem playing outside of Real Madrid. Eduardo Camavinga and his agent need to have a talk with Real Madrid as to what role he will play at the club so he can get his future sort out. This filling in all over the place is bad for him now and will hurt him in the long run.
Because I like Barca I can’t talk about other players? How sad you must be getting so hurt that someone calls out vini for not being good for his country. Btw I’m relaying most of what others are saying. Some of you Madrid fans are so beyond clueless. Also these players are on Brazil and France.. what are you on? They aren’t bad teams… wild
@grettfc I'm pretty fair, and I like your videos, but targeting our players and not mentioning any players fomrom any other club while bashing RM players seems targeted. We watch our players international fixtures, we get it. But England and Brazil are being poorly managed at the moment.
The only reason I covered this is bc like I stated in the video, there has been a lot of talk and news specifically about a lot of the Madrid players so that was the whole point. I appreciate the support but I just think a lot of people are thinking I’m purposely trying to talk bad about Madrid when I’m not. I’m just talking about what is on social media. I usually give Madrid their props a lot haha
When a “Ballon Dor contender” who’s going into his prime and is being taken off for his national team with 25 minutes to go when your team needs a goal, I don’t think that’s a good look for football and that should be incredibly concerning for Vinicius Junior. They were right to sub him off against Costa Rica because he was stinking it up for 65 minutes and did absolutely nothing. When I say this I’m not trying to say that he has become a bad player overnight, he’s a great player, but he’s a different player whenever he’s playing outside of Carlo Ancelotti and Real Madrid and for the Brazil national team he has just 3 goals in 31 games. After the champions league final, I said that the only thing stopping him from winning the Ballon Dor is him having a bad Copa América based off of how poor he’s been at international level. When we talk about legacy and who’s the best player in the world we need to balance out a player’s achievement at club level to what we see from them when they play for their country. As great as it is to be winning the champions league every season, he needs to be doing more for his country so that he doesn’t get criticized for only showing up at club level. For someone who’s in the conversation for being the best player in the world, that is such a poor record and beyond stats, he’s not as impactful as he is for Brazil as he’s been for Real Madrid and there’s a feeling that he’s not even their best player and is only starting games because of his name. As I said before, it’s not a good look for the game when a player of his caliber frontrunner to win the Ballon Dor is being subbed off when your team needs a goal and he’s supposed to be Brazil’s main man since Neymar isn’t there. Every time he puts on that Brazil shirt, he forgets how to play football and of course it’s one game I understand that, but if Vini continues to underperform for Brazil at the Copa América, it’s going to hurt his chances of winning the Ballon Dor.
Too many mediocre managers at the international level imo. England has La liga and PL player of the season and Bundesliga Top scorer and they look very horrible.
I think regardless of anything vini wins the ballon dor or if Germany do good Kronos wins it but Bellingham can’t win it becuz he has been shit all games for England in my opinion and has been playing more minutes than he should and Bellingham also didn’t do anything in KO rounds, his PR is way too good
It’s not about system It’s about control Bellingham, Rodrigo and vini are not good at controlling the game, they need kroos, modric and carvajal to make something out of nothing
If Germany win Kroos Ballondor but Bellingham Foden Mbappe Vini doesnt deserve it for this season actually nobody deserves it this year just give Lewandowksi his deserved from 2020 and thats it
I would have never said kroos, even if Germany win the EURO I don’t think he’s the best in the world but trophies do carry a large weight. I guess we will see haha
Messi will win it after he wins the copa. Last year Haaland was supposed to win and did more than Vinicius and Bellingham. Messi will be more deserving this time if he wins the copa
Coming into this video I thought you were gonna spew a load of crap. And you kind of did but you were fair to a point. First of all Bellingham is not overhyped. He went into the UCL KO round with a shoulder injury he needs surgery for. Just like Reece James needed surgery to fix his issues and same with Enzo but guess what Bellingham still performed in UCL KOs and took that penalty against Man City no problem. Football is a sport about consistency and somehow we forget these players are mostly young and they are humans. They're not gonna show up EVERY SINGLE game for 9 months then break for 2-4 weeks then do it all over again. Thats physically exhausting. You should hve someone else on your video to bounce thoughts back on. Youre not dumb but youre speaking to yourself in a vaccum.
Hha that’s funny you actually bring that up about having someone else in the videos. I am working towards that actually bc it’s tough talking to yourself for so long 😂
A couple of weeks ago, after Real Madrid won the champions league, everyone was saying that Vinicius Junior is going to win the Ballon Dor and I told people that there’s no clear frontrunner for this award until the EUROs and Copa América has been played. When you watch him play for Real Madrid particularly in the champions league, you would think that he’s the best player in the world because of how much he’s a difference maker for them in big games, but he’s a shadow of his former self with the Brazil national team and if he doesn’t have a good Copa América as it hasn’t gotten off to a great start for him, he can go from being seen as the world’s best player to a systems merchant who can’t perform outside of Ancelotti and Madrid.
No matter who plays in madrid, they will perform somehow, and vinicious is just the latest golden boy from madrid, its just that, he isnt what they tell us he is.
They are good , of course Vinicius, rodyrygo are not better than cr7 and wale . Bellingham isn’t on tug level of modric . They are still young and improving.
LOOOOOL......Come on GRETT. No matter how good you are you will look off playing with players way below your standard. In the first part of the season people was calling Jude a tap in goalscorer and he wasn't a striker but his awareness and move was so good he was scoring like a striker. Vini Jr played great with a #9 and great without one this season. The fake Brazilians Raphinha and Richarlison are just not good enough so all the attention is place on Vini Jr and after all that they still fail to have a great game.
Do you think some players on Real Madrid are perceived better than they actually are?
As you said I think it's about the coach and how he plays them
Nah, just a bunch of hooligan monkeys
Would you give Bellingham the Ballon d'Or if England wins the Euros or reaches the final with a good performance from him while Vinicius and Brazil are knocked out of the Copa America at the quarter final stage or earlier as you predict?
What a BS agenda
I know Vini and Jude are not at their Best like we saw at Real Madrid
but it's not only Vini and Jude are underperforming, entire Brazil and England squad is underperforming
But you will only target Vini and Jude
Brazil's midfield is so mediocre that they can't even hold the ball properly
vs Costa Rica game 2-3 players were marking on Vini, in first 20 mins Vini gone through these 2-3 player and deliver 4 crosses in box
But there is no player had good position to receive those crosses in the box
So, you guys are expecting Vini to dribble past 2-3 players at wing and then get space in front of 2 CB and shoot past GK in one go?
Just 1 game has completed, and you have started your hate agenda
Don't worry, Vini has seen lot worse rainy days, and he has overcome a lot to achieve his current success
and he will sooner or later do it again to shut you haters
Dude, the topic is about RM players so he is going to talk about them. And Vini has done nothing for Brazil yet, that might change in the future but at the moment they are bang average.
Obviously we’re gonna target the two players that are favorites to win the Balon Dor. For all the hype they get from everyone, they shouldn’t be playing this sh!tty. Both Vini and Bellingham lost possession the most times for their National teams today and yesterday. Just admit that they are both overrated, I’m not saying they are terrible but they definitely aren’t any better than Wirtz or Musiala. Vini and Bellingham are nothing special at all!!!
Real madrid players are getting targeted because of hate towards real madrid. Most of these hates are spread by salty barca fans.
What’s funny is I had nothing to do with the hate nor stated anything bad towards him other than he never really has performed for Brazil yet. Not sure why you’re so upset? I didn’t start the narrative, I’m simply talking about what is being said. You are acting like people are literally attacking you and this attack at me is complete and utter nonsense. I have praised vini countless of times this year btw.. smh
The truth is in our subconscious mind, we're comparing Vini to Neymar and rightly so because you can argue they are both wingers. But the honest truth is, Vini isn't at Neymar's talent level. While it is true that he's always been poor when playing for Brazil, Brazil as a team has been entirely bad for a long time. Rodrygo"s issue is, he's constantly played outta his preferred position and that can really affect any player's performance (take Benzeman for an example). For Bellingham, I think his problem is the standard he sets for himself in the 1st half of last season and he's been judged on that forgetting he's a midfield hustler and not a goal scorer.
Talking about players being system players, I think we should be referring to Barca players and Man city players under guardiola. The whole world has consistently said Real Madrid does not have a system, how come the players are now referred to as system players?
Messi at 2010 WC = 0 NPG
Messi at 2015,16,19 = 0 NPG
Vini scored 2 goals bro.
Moreover Real doesn't have a system. All they do is use wingers to put in crosses. Brazil just doesn't have a good midfield that can hold the ball and when Vini gets triple-teamed, he loses the ball.
Bellingham PR is just insane, he is so overrated!!
Is there any system exist in real madrid😂😂.... Real madrid players don't know the meaning of system... They can perform world class if they are freedom to go anywhere in the pitch which is not possible in national team.
Yes there is!
It's carlo's system.
@@nourhana5 sorry there is no system, madrid can play a midfielder as a CB 😂
@@TheDYNAMITE001 Yeh it called carlo's system 😂😂
System doesn't mean discipline here.
@@nourhana5 fair enough
system is simply friendship
As a RM fan, I think Vini’s substitution vs Costa Rica definitely hurt his stock a little bit and was justified..but it could be the kick he needs to not be complacent and raise his level again.
When Casimiro went to Man Utd, I feel like it showed very clearly that world class is not necessarily world class, when removed from the proper environment.
FACTS
Kinda crazy that kroos might have a chance to win a ballon dor lmao. A couple years ago that would been almost impossible
Kroos has clearly played a big part in making him shine. He's worked hard though but not convincing as a candidate. He needs to keep growing in every area of his career.
It’s crazy that he is retiring
@@grettfc it really is, I think he's got at least 2-3 more years at the top but we'll respect his decision. I love that Coach Ancelotti left the door open for him.
Bro you really know football I like your honesty everything you said is true am also very disappointed in two of our players Bellingham and Vin so I think we have to be patient with them because I feel because the world is looking up to them they feel underpressure unlike other players the likes of Rodrigo they're free like they have nothing to lose but for these two they've everything to lose, all the same we can be patient but it will cost them balloon d'or
Thank you bro that means a lot!
As long as Madrid continues to win La liga and especially the champions league their players will always be in the ballon d’or conversation. Barca I think has some players that are better than some real Madrid players but if barca doesn’t win the champions league and/or la liga then madrid players will be regarded as better. Unless yamal scores more goals than mbappe or vini which I doubt it.
Real Madrid is becoming more and more stronger
they are constantly improving to stay ahead in race
Just look at the CB position
Nacho left
Yoro likely to come in
CBs - Rudiger, Militao, Alaba, Yoro
Rudiger and Militao will be starting
Yoro will have steady season or two to adapt in Real Madrid gameplay (Just like Militao did when he joined Real Madrid and played season under Ramos and Varane)
In case of player unavailability Tchoumeni is there to start as CB
Real Madrid is very good in planning like this
I guess barca will be back soon.
I think if Germany wins the euro Wirtz or Taony kros might win the Ballon dor .
I blieve football players have gotten badder these past years
The thing is at Real Madrid Carlo Ancelotti gives his players freedom, they use their talent to the max. But at their national teams its different. Bellingham has to play in his natural position as a CM, that's why England is struggling. Bellingham is not a number 10 so the earlier he drops into the midfield position the better coz next season he will play as midfielder and he will not score as many goals he scored this season.
Raphinha was trash last game wym!
Rodrygo, Aurélien Tchouaméni and Eduardo Camavinga are system players?
Rodrygo as never been given the freedom to play his best and when they put him out on the LW to play Vini Jr he as never failed.
Aurélien Tchouaméni i must admit as been out injured a lot but when ever he plays does his job well both as CDM and at CB. Now those two position takes discipline and he as prove that so i don't think he would have a problem playing outside of Real Madrid.
Eduardo Camavinga and his agent need to have a talk with Real Madrid as to what role he will play at the club so he can get his future sort out. This filling in all over the place is bad for him now and will hurt him in the long run.
and Man City players? are they not also overhyped? Remember Messi and Ronaldo have a few national team cups between them achieved over lengthy careers
This video was specifically about Madrid players as that was most of the drama I was hearing on social media
And?,at least they still performed for their nation even in the most worst times
Amazing how a Barca fan has so many negative opinions on Champions League/La Liga winning players playing on shite international teams. Hala Madrid!
Because I like Barca I can’t talk about other players? How sad you must be getting so hurt that someone calls out vini for not being good for his country. Btw I’m relaying most of what others are saying. Some of you Madrid fans are so beyond clueless. Also these players are on Brazil and France.. what are you on? They aren’t bad teams… wild
@grettfc They were good historically. How are they doing in the current tournaments? And I was talking about England and Brazil
@grettfc I'm pretty fair, and I like your videos, but targeting our players and not mentioning any players fomrom any other club while bashing RM players seems targeted. We watch our players international fixtures, we get it. But England and Brazil are being poorly managed at the moment.
The only reason I covered this is bc like I stated in the video, there has been a lot of talk and news specifically about a lot of the Madrid players so that was the whole point. I appreciate the support but I just think a lot of people are thinking I’m purposely trying to talk bad about Madrid when I’m not. I’m just talking about what is on social media. I usually give Madrid their props a lot haha
Messi will probably win this year , last year Haaland should have won it . This year if Messi wins the copa he will probably win it
When a “Ballon Dor contender” who’s going into his prime and is being taken off for his national team with 25 minutes to go when your team needs a goal, I don’t think that’s a good look for football and that should be incredibly concerning for Vinicius Junior. They were right to sub him off against Costa Rica because he was stinking it up for 65 minutes and did absolutely nothing. When I say this I’m not trying to say that he has become a bad player overnight, he’s a great player, but he’s a different player whenever he’s playing outside of Carlo Ancelotti and Real Madrid and for the Brazil national team he has just 3 goals in 31 games. After the champions league final, I said that the only thing stopping him from winning the Ballon Dor is him having a bad Copa América based off of how poor he’s been at international level. When we talk about legacy and who’s the best player in the world we need to balance out a player’s achievement at club level to what we see from them when they play for their country. As great as it is to be winning the champions league every season, he needs to be doing more for his country so that he doesn’t get criticized for only showing up at club level.
For someone who’s in the conversation for being the best player in the world, that is such a poor record and beyond stats, he’s not as impactful as he is for Brazil as he’s been for Real Madrid and there’s a feeling that he’s not even their best player and is only starting games because of his name. As I said before, it’s not a good look for the game when a player of his caliber frontrunner to win the Ballon Dor is being subbed off when your team needs a goal and he’s supposed to be Brazil’s main man since Neymar isn’t there. Every time he puts on that Brazil shirt, he forgets how to play football and of course it’s one game I understand that, but if Vini continues to underperform for Brazil at the Copa América, it’s going to hurt his chances of winning the Ballon Dor.
This is actually a really good statement. How is the ballon dor contender being taken off when your team needs a goal. Crazy!
If a player is playing badly, you take him off the pitch. Shouldn't matter who it is
As a Real Madrid fan, I agree with you. Vini is a good player, not a great player thus far.
Too many mediocre managers at the international level imo. England has La liga and PL player of the season and Bundesliga Top scorer and they look very horrible.
Yeah that’s actually ridiculous!
I think regardless of anything vini wins the ballon dor or if Germany do good Kronos wins it but Bellingham can’t win it becuz he has been shit all games for England in my opinion and has been playing more minutes than he should and Bellingham also didn’t do anything in KO rounds, his PR is way too good
It’s not about system
It’s about control
Bellingham, Rodrigo and vini are not good at controlling the game, they need kroos, modric and carvajal to make something out of nothing
Yeah it will be be really interesting to see how Madrid is without kroos.
3 goals in 30 caps 🤭
If Germany win Kroos Ballondor but Bellingham Foden Mbappe Vini doesnt deserve it for this season actually nobody deserves it this year just give Lewandowksi his deserved from 2020 and thats it
😂😂😂
The smartest barcaDog
I think Vini and Bellingham will most likely lose the award to mbappe or kroos depending on how far they perform in the competition they are in.
I would have never said kroos, even if Germany win the EURO I don’t think he’s the best in the world but trophies do carry a large weight. I guess we will see haha
mbappe is done for already, france is on the same level as england rn lol
They really are it’s wild
Messi will win it after he wins the copa. Last year Haaland was supposed to win and did more than Vinicius and Bellingham. Messi will be more deserving this time if he wins the copa
Coming into this video I thought you were gonna spew a load of crap. And you kind of did but you were fair to a point.
First of all Bellingham is not overhyped. He went into the UCL KO round with a shoulder injury he needs surgery for. Just like Reece James needed surgery to fix his issues and same with Enzo but guess what Bellingham still performed in UCL KOs and took that penalty against Man City no problem.
Football is a sport about consistency and somehow we forget these players are mostly young and they are humans. They're not gonna show up EVERY SINGLE game for 9 months then break for 2-4 weeks then do it all over again. Thats physically exhausting.
You should hve someone else on your video to bounce thoughts back on. Youre not dumb but youre speaking to yourself in a vaccum.
Hha that’s funny you actually bring that up about having someone else in the videos. I am working towards that actually bc it’s tough talking to yourself for so long 😂
@@grettfc yea sorry for being harsh. Good video man just alot of Madrid hate going around.
Haha no worries man. I do my best to try not to let my emotions get involved and it will keep getting better 😂
Just one match media go condemn person so
A couple of weeks ago, after Real Madrid won the champions league, everyone was saying that Vinicius Junior is going to win the Ballon Dor and I told people that there’s no clear frontrunner for this award until the EUROs and Copa América has been played. When you watch him play for Real Madrid particularly in the champions league, you would think that he’s the best player in the world because of how much he’s a difference maker for them in big games, but he’s a shadow of his former self with the Brazil national team and if he doesn’t have a good Copa América as it hasn’t gotten off to a great start for him, he can go from being seen as the world’s best player to a systems merchant who can’t perform outside of Ancelotti and Madrid.
No matter who plays in madrid, they will perform somehow, and vinicious is just the latest golden boy from madrid, its just that, he isnt what they tell us he is.
They are good , of course Vinicius, rodyrygo are not better than cr7 and wale . Bellingham isn’t on tug level of modric .
They are still young and improving.
LOOOOOL......Come on GRETT. No matter how good you are you will look off playing with players way below your standard.
In the first part of the season people was calling Jude a tap in goalscorer and he wasn't a striker but his awareness and move was so good he was scoring like a striker.
Vini Jr played great with a #9 and great without one this season. The fake Brazilians Raphinha and Richarlison are just not good enough so all the attention is place on Vini Jr and after all that they still fail to have a great game.
Brother lol I’m commenting on the narrative that a lot of people have been saying this I’m just talking about it😂
@@grettfc it’s so bad even Roni disowned them.