Silvestrov s music speaks to me. yes it has serialism, yet Mahler s universe comes to mind, those melodies emerging from out of the atonal soup love Valentin s music
Silvestrov's music -including this symphony- are as profound and beautiful as the music of Mahler. Silvestrov's mastery of orchestration is on a par with Rimsky, Stravinsky or Ravel and his musical imagination is equal to those composers. Repeated listening to his symphony and his other masterpieces only strengthens this impression. What's equally haunting and beautiful but also quite different from the symphonies, are his songs, solo piano and choral music.
A discovery for me. I've read that Mahler wrote one symphony, divided into nine parts. I'm pretty ignorant about Valentin Silvestrov, but I wonder if the same comment could be made. A large, coherent, significant artistic vision developed over years.
@@warmswarm . Oh really lol! Plenty of legit Ph.Ds in musicology out there can tell you this isn't really music!🤣 I like it because it's like the soundtrack of a narrativeless nightmare.
@@jamesbarlow6423 - Jimmy, oh Jimmy, as you know, beauty is in the ear of the beholder. The melody at 2:57 is beautiful and there are many other great melodies in this symphony. The way you describe it tells me you know nothing about classical music. But that's alright, this is a good place to start.
@@warmswarm I keep coming back to this recording. This fragile melody has been with me ever since. Is sounds like a deep longing, something we don't seem to be very good at. There is another recording of this symphony on RUclips now by a Polish orchestra, but they played this melody without paying attention, too light, so it sounds banal. Another catchy one is at 20:24. You can find it as piano bagatelle as well.
It's remarkable to me that comments like this continue to be made on RUclips when almost always further info about a video will be found simply by clicking on *'...,more'*.
I must say, having listened to Silvestrov's 5th, 6th, 7th symphonies previously, that this one seems to cover genuinely new ground. It sounds somehow more melodic...
Is it the music? Its unbelievable beautiful, but whether it’s music? I am not sure… maybe it is , but in this case everything I’ve called music before- it’s not. I would say it’s Glasperlenspiel. Probably H. Hesse habe heard it while writing his famous novel. Meditation, Mantra, Ritual.
I do respect your opinion , but for me this piece is not mediocre.It’s just needs another way of listening as many other wonderful contemporary compositions. De gustibus non est disputandum.
@@awb222 I'd rather set the bar high for these composers. And they prefer that approach. Fanboys who think everything is wonderful only dismay and depress them. What's the point of pushing themselves if any old crap thrills the audience? High standards keep the genre progressing. Fanboys send it right down the drain. Toughen up and judge stuff right.
Yes, indeed. It's exciting to discover rewarding music (I remember the thrill of discovering Beethoven, Mahler, Prokofiev, Shostakovich ... many years ago) and good to share those discoveries. I don't know what kind of music you like, but I was bowled over the other day by Enescu's Octet (for strings); try the Kovacic recording. How about you?
Well, I started when I was 15, 16 years old by the cycle B-M (Bach-Mozart) and some Haydn ,barock music and Beethioen´s 5th and 6th. Then I was "paralyzed" by Beethoven´s IX and all the Sonatas (therefore the cycle B-M-B). And when I was 18 or so a new M - Mahler and nother 2 Bs - Brahms, Bruckner. Then Sibelius, Honneger, Debussy of course, Hindemith, Orff, Maessien, Vaugham Williams, Prokofieff, Rachamaninoff and another Giant - Bartok, who led me to more music in East Europe or if you wish Balkanized Europe - Jannacek, Smetana, Enescu, actually regional composers alike using strong influence from Mahler, Sibelius some Wagner , openuing the dood to dodecaphonism. Today I´m researching more russians, Lithuanian, Estonian, Danish etc. A lot - provided I have time to do it. I tell you what - if you agree, we can exchange messages about our Musical discoveries and ideas. I don´t ewant to intrude but seems to me we may have a lot to share. Tell me if you agree and we will exchande our email addresses for that purpose. By yhe name my name is Alex and I am Portuguese. Cheers
which orchestra? which orchestra? which orchestra .....? When and where recorded? when and where recorded? when and where recorded .....? Don't be stupid when adding music here!
Now I understand why You, Alfred and Arvo were friends... Love You and Your Music!
P.S: A deep bow to You, Maestro!
Silvestrov has now completed 10 symphonies by 2021 would love to hear 9 and 10
First time listening: absolutely enthralling! Something magical about it, as with all great pieces of music.
Silvestrov s music speaks to me. yes it has serialism, yet Mahler s universe comes to mind, those melodies emerging from out of the atonal soup love Valentin s music
Atonal? sometimes he does major 7ths and 9ths but atonal? It's basically Webern's romanticism combined with Sibelius' impressionism
thank you John I think your right on the mark, Webern meets Sibelius!
love this piece so melodic and romantic what a great musical heart
Silvestrov's music -including this symphony- are as profound and beautiful as the music of Mahler. Silvestrov's mastery
of orchestration is on a par with Rimsky, Stravinsky or Ravel and his musical imagination is equal to those composers. Repeated listening to his symphony and his other masterpieces only strengthens this impression. What's equally haunting and beautiful but also quite different from the symphonies, are his songs, solo piano and choral music.
Another excellent offering. Keep up the good work, Mr. Hampmeister.
A discovery for me. I've read that Mahler wrote one symphony, divided into nine parts. I'm pretty ignorant about Valentin Silvestrov, but I wonder if the same comment could be made. A large, coherent, significant artistic vision developed over years.
Very beautiful, in some places like the orchestra's singing his sacred music.
So beautiful melody at 2:57
It's been stuck in my mind for a few days.
Really? I guess our definitions of "beauty"and "melody" are worlds apart,
@@trevorcorso473 - Well maybe you had better stick to Mozart and Vivaldi then.
@@warmswarm . Oh really lol! Plenty of legit Ph.Ds in musicology out there can tell you this isn't really music!🤣
I like it because it's like the soundtrack of a narrativeless nightmare.
@@jamesbarlow6423 - Jimmy, oh Jimmy, as you know, beauty is in the ear of the beholder. The melody at 2:57 is beautiful and there are many other great melodies in this symphony. The way you describe it tells me you know nothing about classical music. But that's alright, this is a good place to start.
@@warmswarm I keep coming back to this recording. This fragile melody has been with me ever since. Is sounds like a deep longing, something we don't seem to be very good at.
There is another recording of this symphony on RUclips now by a Polish orchestra, but they played this melody without paying attention, too light, so it sounds banal.
Another catchy one is at 20:24. You can find it as piano bagatelle as well.
Спасибо что живой!
As an unimportant part of all this - it would have been nice to mention the orchestra. Without them, total silence would reign here.
It would indeed. It's the National Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine; Sirenko is their chief conductor..
It is listed under the arrow to the right of the title.
It's remarkable to me that comments like this continue to be made on RUclips when almost always further info about a video will be found simply by clicking on *'...,more'*.
Molto, molto bella. Grazie!
At 4:27 echoes of Mahler's 4th Symphony. Beyond this a very original work. More Mahler referemces at 12.40.
Is the 12:06-13:10 really a direct Mahler reference or more a stylistic quote? What do you all think?
i hope there will be a recording released
"Nothing ahead..just the empty cliff..
Ah - excellent, thanks
I must say, having listened to Silvestrov's 5th, 6th, 7th symphonies previously, that this one seems to cover genuinely new ground. It sounds somehow more melodic...
God forbid if a piece isn't "new". Every piece of Bach, Mozart, Vivaldi and Haydn just blazed new ground. Regurgitated pablum ad infinitum...
Is it the music? Its unbelievable beautiful, but whether it’s music? I am not sure… maybe it is , but in this case everything I’ve called music before- it’s not. I would say it’s Glasperlenspiel. Probably H. Hesse habe heard it while writing his famous novel. Meditation, Mantra, Ritual.
You need to listen to a LOT more stuff. This is mediocre at best.
I do respect your opinion , but for me this piece is not mediocre.It’s just needs another way of listening as many other wonderful contemporary compositions.
De gustibus non est disputandum.
@@awb222 I'd rather set the bar high for these composers. And they prefer that approach. Fanboys who think everything is wonderful only dismay and depress them. What's the point of pushing themselves if any old crap thrills the audience? High standards keep the genre progressing. Fanboys send it right down the drain. Toughen up and judge stuff right.
Enjoyed this work very much, but not the audiences' bronchial interventions. Wish these people would stay at home.
Strange, smoggy, multi-fractured, difficul to find a sequence. Honestly, I am disappointed.
I agree (and have the same problem with Symphonies nos 5 and 6), but do try no. 7; it's something special!
I certainly will - thanks. It´s good to have someone dialoguing about Music...sometimes quite lonely listening and not commenting. Warmest greetings.
Yes, indeed. It's exciting to discover rewarding music (I remember the thrill of discovering Beethoven, Mahler, Prokofiev, Shostakovich ... many years ago) and good to share those discoveries. I don't know what kind of music you like, but I was bowled over the other day by Enescu's Octet (for strings); try the Kovacic recording. How about you?
Well, I started when I was 15, 16 years old by the cycle B-M (Bach-Mozart) and some Haydn ,barock music and Beethioen´s 5th and 6th. Then I was "paralyzed" by Beethoven´s IX and all the Sonatas (therefore the cycle B-M-B). And when I was 18 or so a new M - Mahler and nother 2 Bs - Brahms, Bruckner. Then Sibelius, Honneger, Debussy of course, Hindemith, Orff, Maessien, Vaugham Williams, Prokofieff, Rachamaninoff and another Giant - Bartok, who led me to more music in East Europe or if you wish Balkanized Europe - Jannacek, Smetana, Enescu, actually regional composers alike using strong influence from Mahler, Sibelius some Wagner , openuing the dood to dodecaphonism. Today I´m researching more russians, Lithuanian, Estonian, Danish etc. A lot - provided I have time to do it. I tell you what - if you agree, we can exchange messages about our Musical discoveries and ideas. I don´t ewant to intrude but seems to me we may have a lot to share. Tell me if you agree and we will exchande our email addresses for that purpose. By yhe name my name is Alex and I am Portuguese. Cheers
Yes, good idea. Mine's laredo.joseph@gmail.com.
which orchestra? which orchestra? which orchestra .....? When and where recorded? when and where recorded? when and where recorded .....?
Don't be stupid when adding music here!
Click the down arrow to the right of the title.
Don't be stupid when reading the Description of a RUclips video. Honestly, is it really that difficult to click on *...more*?