"He's been in my home", translates to, "he's been around my children". What a horrifying thing to realize, that this man, whom you consider a friend, is the *worst* kind of monster. Worse yet? He's been around *your* kids. I can't even imagine.
Matt Millen has nothing to apologize for. I've always respected him as a broadcaster, and now I respect him even more. His heart was truly broken for Sandusky's victims, and also for the damage done to coach Paterno and the Penn St program. He was honest, emotional, and truly horrified by the whole situation.
Can't believe it's been almost 10 years since this news first broke. I remember being out to eat somewhere in my hometown when the news broke and then going home & listening to the initial reports on ESPN & I was just in complete shock. I was at the last game Paterno coached (the snow game against Illinois) & even then I never saw this coming. I also was there when he won his 400th game. And in an instant. it seemed that none of it mattered anymore. I'm a VA Tech Hokies fan in an entire household of Penn State fans, so this was a notable, sad event for us as a CFB loving family.
Same too. I remember it well. I was my freshman year in high school and I could remember watching Dancing With the Stars with the family and I overheard my mom and older brother talking about an assistant coach at Penn State raping boys and I was like: “This can’t be Penn State?” And sure enough it was. The next when I was in intervention class with my brother and he was talking about it with the teacher who so happened to be my football coach and I talked about it with him and I said I thought it was a bunch of BS and the NCAA is like: “Now that we already bullied Ohio State long enough, who’s next on the list so that we can give Michigan a fighting chance at a national title let alone a Big 10 conference title?” Coach gave that are you kidding look and said “Do you know what that guy did? He should be shot” I didn’t know about the scandal well enough back then and looking back I feel very stupid for saying those remarks. And ever since the scandal, I’ve hated Penn State and every single thing about them to the core. Go Bucks
Matt Millen was obviously sickened and shocked by what Jerry Sandusky did. He was emotional. But his point was that even though it was an emotional issue, even for him, those emotions should not drive people to make other decisions. It was like when he said that part of him wanted to "take care of it" himself...he stepped back and said that doing so would be the wrong thing. Divorcing yourself of emotions when making decisions doesn't mean you can't have emotions. You just need to TEMPORARILY put those emotions aside and be rational.
Almost 10 years later as an Ohio State fan remembering tattoo gate around that time, I was shocked cause it was a respected program and thought it was just a bunch of sham. Looking back now I lost alot of respect and gained hatred for Penn State.
...you felt for this guys? The guy who cared way more for the Pedophile and the guy who knew about the Pedophile but decided to not report what he knew. He cared way more for them, so ummm what about the Victims?
Penn State did not break any Ncaa Rules when this happened the players were punished for something they did not do which wasn't fair to them. It shouldd have been a state matter not a Ncaa matter
@Blue Skeptic dummy, he's saying that only Paterno and Sandusky should be charged by the law and that the players shouldn't have to face the punishments.
I don't think Paterno was a monster or supported child sexual assault... but I cannot make an argument where he's not to blame in some way for enabling it to continue or not doing something to stop it. And it really is sad that many people in my state only want to argue about how Paterno is the victim here and shouldn't lose his god status when there is a list of abused kids who really are victims. Whatever we do, don't tear down a football deity by holding him accountable for his decisions or lack of action! He built a library! God status revoked, he's mortal.
Steve Parkin same here I doubt that he is a monster but he should’ve known what is going on you can’t be that idiotic to think that it’s not his place to know did he do the absolute minimal of what he’s supposed to do yes he should’ve went to the police first paterno would’ve have been a hero beyond what he was he would’ve been the biggest college sports hero of all time should Paterno be hated for what he did no should his greatness be questioned absolutely without a doubt
It took a while but there’s more facts & it turns out that Paterno didn’t know. The activist media created a narrative that hid some facts regarding his grand jury testimony. Matt Millen was right here.
@@Kevin-it4fh I think its one of those things where he probably did not want to believe it. Sandusky was a long time friend, etc. I know that I have at first rejected to believe certain things that seemed too impossible to be true before I finally accepted them. The difference is, the stuff that I had a hard time accepting was not on the level of child rape by a person that I was enabling, and secondly, I eventually accepted the truth. If one of my assistants reported what was reported to Paterno... "Well, I mentioned it once to somebody in charge and nothing came of it, so I did my part, now I'm just going to pretend it never happened" would not be good enough for me to absolve myself. It's a character test. At the end of the day, Joe Paterno is who had to live with this. I don't have to judge him, he judged himself. It obviously crushed him when the story broke. He probably wondered how football became so important that it wound up preventing him from doing the right thing. I doubt Joe Paterno would be okay with a statue honoring himself in light of what happened.
Did anyone else get disgusted by this guys counterfeit emotions? He is either the worse judge of character I have ever seen, or he's in on it! He knew Sandusky for how long, and NEVER heard rumors of pedophilia? Have people become so naive and dumbed down that they actually buy any of this CRAP? Come on people, WAKE UP already.
.. What Fleury wants to tell those boys in this Penn State tragedy - the ones who have come forward, the ones who are trying to summon the courage, the ones who are suffering alone, the ones whom we will never know about - is don't quit before the miracle.
I love that in one breath, Millen is making excuses for Paterno and trying to cast doubt on the facts of the situation, then when asked about Sandusky, he says something to the effect of not being able to see it coming because he knew the guy so well. Compelling case there, Matty.
@AnneLiesveld You are missing the point, Paterno didn't follow up on what was being done with Sandusky, PERIOD. I'm not saying he performed these sex acts on kids himself but, he did very little to stop it.
good to see someone close to it who starts off trying to be fair when talking about something that there is nothing fair about but then has to get honest I hope the rest do that
Joe Pa reported to the Penn State university Police. What he should have done, was report it to the Pennsylvania State Police. Big difference between the two and at his age, he assumed that was enough, but the Penn state university Police clearly was a part of the cover-up, because they made it about image, reputation, recruiting and most of all MONEY!!!
Millen has probably broken down about this alot…the man basically grew up in the Penn St philosophy on the game and too see his idols go down the way they did destroyed him inside as it should of and we saw a little bit of it come out here…every player that played at Penn St from ‘70-‘05 probably feels the exact same way and it’s a damn shame alot of good players came out of Penn st during that period
Sandusky is one hell of a manipulator. That man concealed his actions for years while being heavily involved with major organizations made up of thousands of people. I always see people talking online about Paterno like he was involved with Sandusky's actions... Paterno heard from McQueary about something he saw in the showers. He should have said to McQueary, "what did you do to stop the incident?" Maybe Paterno could be criticized for that, but the eyewitness is the most accountable here.
I was referring to your post where your reply was "Bingo!" to the guy that wrote "...all the News channels are owned by one group of people". Mind explaining who is that "group" of people?
@@CoolHandLuke813 Its cool...I literally just found out about all of this and I guess seeing how the Penn State Student body reacted to Paterno being Fired, and kind of just ignoring the Victim...i was like D@MN...but its good, stay blessed tho 🙏🏽
"...The University is a business to be run....there are so many things that need to be taken care". ~ Millen. Uh Matt...The University has the responsibility to do one thing, and one thing, only...EDUCATE! That's it, that's all, nothing more, nothing less.
It's a fact that Paterno didn't go to the cops right away, he only went to the ad. That's morally wrong imo. Paterno cared more about the program/his image than those poor kids or else he woulda gone to the cops asap. Millen just doesn't want to believe a figure he admired and looked up to for years made a huge mistake.
Caoch Paterno's conversation and action that should of come. Coach Sandusky I had a very terrible accusation brought against you and I have to call the Police and notify them of the allegations. I suggest you get an attorney and you are now put on leave as a coach and not allowed on campus until investigation is done. I pray that these thing s are not true and if they are may GOD have mercy on your soul and the boys who were violated.
@@johnherney4093 for starters defending a person who harbored a pedophile, then constantly saying taking emotion out when he himself clearly has emotional ties to those coaches and the university
Anybody that was informed of the information that he was privy to, needs to go straight to the police, and if not, take full responsibility for not doing so. Sorry Matt, and sorry Joe. Jerry Scumdusky needs to rot in prison, and Joe, along with all at Penn State with knowledge needed to go.
this is ridiculous, I cant believe Matt Millen would seriously overlook the bigger picture here and speak the way he has, especially when he said "im sure Joe Paterno is feeling the same way right now" uh NO, INCORRECT, he probaby felt that way decades ago upon initially learning of Sanduskys horrible crimes and yet, apparently didnt feel terrible enough to take any damn stand for it. And for Matt Millen to not enough tread carefully enough to recognize that at the end of the day, sports and other non essential life matters play zero importance towards relinquishing the trauma and impact that Sandusky laid onto his victims, and those people, above all else deserve justice and recognition. Penn state makes me sick.
Kyong Hansen u know u make me sick I had to go thru bad times at school just because of this and ur a bitch u have no idea what it's like ur a big bitch who knows nothing about this
By all accounts, Sandusky didn't tie anyone up and force them to have sex. These young men consented each time. Sandusky may be guilty of STATUTORY rape, but Joe Paterno has absoultely nothing to do with it. What was he suppose to say: "Hey school officials. Jerry is having consensual sex with young men". Seriously, some of you drama queens need to get a life.
the investigation was done by former fbi agents and federal prosecutors. the man who headed the team was a former fbi director and federal judge. i am relatively certain that the facts they found are quite reliable.
Wow, incredible. I have lived in the State College area for many of years now. For everyone who is bashing Millen obviously do not get what the Penn State family is. Penn State is more than a University. It is a lifestyle (and before all you immature people begin saying, "yeah, a pedophile lifestyle", try acting your age for once and liste). Penn State is a community. Once a Nittany Lion, more than a Nittany Lion. This is why Millen is upset, and why he cries. It is sad for alumni and all.
Gary Schultz was the head of Penn State Police. Paterno did think he was doing enough at the time by reporting up the chain, which is what he was supposed to do. When nothing happened... MAYBE then he should have acted further--but I think the real burden was in his superior's hands. He was a figurehead, a face for Penn State, but in the end his colleagues likely thought the same about him-- in essence, a overly proud, dottering old fool.
You have to grow up in a nation of a football team and the pride of those programs to understand this. Joe Paterno was a an icon in college football and this program was so great but this kills all of that. I grew up in Nebraska and if Osborne or Devaney was involved in something like this it would be devastating. That being said the issues of Penn State were sick and God only knows how wide this was. Those behind that whole issue should be punished to the extent of the law and pray to God that he forgives them for they have a special place waiting if the word is true.
I don't know what the big deal is, who here can say they don't know the joy of a nice, young boy? The joy a nice young boy can bring, the pure, PURE pleasure that a nice, generous young boy willing to do just about anything can bring? Who amongst you can say you havent taken, one, two, maybe fourteen boys into your back parlor and given them candy and drinks, perhaps even video taped the experience so you can relive that joy at other times? Isn't this America? Aren't we all AMERICANS?
@AnneLiesveld were coaches on the campus of, he hung out on campus with them, he connected with them as men, trusted them as father figures. This isn't about seeing them be "not perfect" I am sure they could get divorced and he would still respect them. this is SO MUCH BIGGER (I bet) for him! I don't know his feelings but I could imagine seeing something like this about a hs or college coach and imagine how i would feel. I STILL TO THIS DAY respect most of my hs teachers. I can rlt
I think it's just as sad that law officials swept the first occurrence under the rug yet everyone had no problem picking on an 85 year old man who probably had a bigger positive impact on the world in one year than most of us could hope to have in a lifetime. If you've never been to State College/University Park to see even a tiny bit of impact that this man has had on the immediate community there you should shut it. He lived to a higher moral standard than most of us could ever hope to.
I don't remember that. I do remember being a NU fan (now you know my alliance) knowing that the person who alledgedly saw stuff was going to be at the NU-PSU game. There might have been people on campus leadership wise "supporting him" but I doubt that most students now a days respect him. Plus, looking at it from the student perspective I can understand that I respect NU coaches so I can imagine the emotions I would feel if they were involved in this kind of mess. I can imagine that students
The Bottom line to me is that Joe Pa was in his 70's. The man was certainly not fit to run this program. I think Joe Pa is being persecuted without fairness. So, we all know as a matter of fact that he knew this? Wrong. Just wait and see the facts.
Bottom line the first case was a damn scam and set up...and that is why the victim was bullied in the school b/c all this shit didn't end with him when it started with him in the beginning, his mom should be sued.. for not doing shit. OH AND IF THE SECOND MILE KNEW ABOUT THE disorder Sandusky has. HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN HIRED IN SECOND MILE AND HE WOULD HAVE NEVER MET ANY OF THE KIDS!
Put your feelings to the side Detriot Fans Matt Millen this is not about your sorry football team It was sorry before Millien came in. But he has a big heart and i give him a standing O for doing his job i always liked him being a broadcaster
...no. No, Paterno knew about something and he decided to do nothing. Because if he didnt know anything then why was he involved in conversation about speaking and meeting with Sandusky about what happened. Why was he involved? Millen was putting everything about this situations First...except for the Victims.
I should not have made the comment and no I don't defend what happened but what did the freshman on campus do to deserve that or the person who is a math teacher or the grandchild of a former player who is dealing with watching a grandfather deal with that situation or the son of the more recent full time players. and it is NOT PED STATE AGAIN I REPEAT IT IS NOT PED STATE! I can't imagine how much these comments would offend an ACTUAL penn state student considering I am NOT one.
This just sounds so legit too when you hear MM talking about He can't imagine JS that way. I thought I read online that MM has grown kids (probably closer to my age (32 in may) and I can imagine that must have been a wonderfully fun time for him to have to talk about this.
Instead of wasting valuable time with these jealous haters we should ban together and ask the county to properly honor Joe with a special rememberance day. That would be fitting since he had done so much good for the students who attended Penn State. Always remember Joseph Paterno and his family.
It goes to show you that you cannot trust anyone with your children, its so sickening, these were children, a man took advantage of children in the worse possible way and people basically let this sick man run about with children and didnt think twice about what they felt, just tryn to cover up and protect the university thats why people are so angry at both the administration and coach paterno
Don't cal it "ped" state for the staff person in the math department, don't call it that for the person who was a freshman last year who (12 years ago) was 6, for the senior who had a stressful senior year. those are a few of the people not responsible for "ped state" and it is GIVEN a reason otherwise. When you are being picky, please grammar check
dont take this out of context........blaming paterno for all of this is like blaming ronald mcdonald because the hamburlar was a pedophile but the owners let the hamburlar hang around still, yes this sounds ludacris and im not saying it isnt but paterno was a coach and a familiar face, he did not run that place, he wasnt the president of penn state he brought the accusations to the people in charge and they dropped the ball. i know im going to get alot of stupid comments save them!!
@torontothegood feeling like He respected them as integrity-filled strong responsible men and they are no more that but he remembers them as being all that so is emotional. He looked very genuinely emotional--even struggling with eye contact with his co-worker eyes as a intervewee.
I doubt he would but I am guessing it is a completely different emotion to know that it wasn't a "total stranger" that commited such offenses and an actual friend.
the only person to blame is Sandusky...Paterno should have been allowed to finish the season...ya he could of done more but if theres someone other than Sandusky to blame then is McQueary he should have gone to the police after it happened regardless of what Paterno said to him...also did the parents of these kids have no idea? Were they watchin the news when they first found out about this? If you can go 10 years or more and not know your kid was molested then they share some of the blame
I know that joe should have done more, but it is wrong to keep taking shots at people who cant defend themselves now. He is the only person for sure who knew his reasonings and everyone is making assumptions based on hearsay. I do believe he should have done more, and it was wrong that he didn't, but he never really had a chance to defend himself. Everyone needs to stop focusing on him and help the victims/ prevent this horrible act from ever recurring.
I am guessing he would have responded different but since he does actually know him as a person it isnt like he is a "ficticious person" and it isnt ilke he can "imagine if his kids had spent time with him
THERE ARE RULES JOE HAD TO FOLLOW HE COULD ONLY TELL A SPECIFIC PERSON, HE DID WHAT HE COULD DO, IF HE DID NOT FOLLOW RULES, YOU CAN BE FIRED. DUAH! AND NO HE WAS NOT MOST POWERFUL, THE PRESIDENT OF PSU IS TO BLAME FOR ALL THIS SHIT!! THE POLICE KEEPING IT PRIVET ALSO TO BLAME!
I’m a Ohio State fan I have no issue with Matt Millen a very passionate man. Listen Joe was naive. He did tell his boss but should have done more. It upsets me that people treat Joe worse then the School President, The AD, Mike McQuary or Jerry Sandusky. The President & AD knew something happened. Worse McQuary walked in on a incident. Get the guy off the kid & scream for help so people come running, don’t give me I had to talk to my father about what to do. Now the big thing that few people understand Joe Pa wasn’t friendly when Sandusky they just worked on the same staff the misconception is they were friends no they weren’t ask anyone around that school. Joe was the Head Coach he ran practices but Sandusky ran the defense & the meetings of that unit. If you know football the offense & defense watch separate film in separate rooms I guarantee you when Sandusky was running the defensive meetings Joe wasn’t there & would appear probably stick his head in the door saying “Coach game plan for the game going ok????” This idea that Joe & Sandusky were such good friends & that was part of the cover up is ridiculous.
Friendly NU fan here and I can appreciate your comments. Friendly: You don't even have to be a HUGE sports fan to feel. This interview shows the hard of a 48ish year old man feeling like his entire "grade" of school respected him. I mean, Bawstin I see you putting that you saw this guy as a "God" but I imagine all it would take is for someone like Matt to know that he respected his former "boss." I would imagine that it is alot less than a God level or I have a "god" like respect for former
I feel bad for victim one b/c of how his family treated him, and his dad was never there, that is why he was happy, he was getting presents, when Jerry stopped getting him gifts and mom money they told police the rape story and his mom started bragging. THAT IS SICK. I hope one day that gets out and his mom goes to jail. JERRY WAS GUILTY SO IT IS FINE HE IS BEHIND BARS SO IT IS WAY BETTER NOW. I feel bad for all the other victims and I hate that he did that to those poor kids.
On Sept. 18, 2005, the cocaine and vodka lost their ability to soothe Fleury’s pain. He cracked. He crumbled. "I finally had a conversation with the Big Guy Upstairs and I called Him every name in the book," Fleury said. "I told Him, 'I know the whole You-only-give-me-as-much-as-I-can-handle thing. Well, I'm full. I need you to take a little.' At the end of the conversation, I prayed for Him to take away the obsession. ..
I can imagine if I saw him doing it to my nephew. That is what amazed me about how non reactive McQueary was and then I listened to McQueary talk on interviews about feelings such shock about what happened and I realized it isn't like McQuery "walked into a grocery store and saw ....... and reacted. People who put "what if he had saw a kid being violated in the real world etc do you realize that he had a human connection to that person so it isn't like he just "saw something randomly?"
seriously you have no right blaming me or my family we did not know about this till it got JOE PA fired when he had lung cancer then ending up dead...died of a broken heart..everyone in psu that are not fans or students treated Joe and his family like shit. and it is sick and wrong when he is already gone and people still talking down on him...anyway no one was protecting anyone but that policeman keeping it secret and not doing his job, never got fired. its stupid.
True. I agree with you about that. What bugs me most isn't that every senior now had a horrid year it is that they are doing (like all college students on campus' everywhere doing good things and of course media makes no attention there and then this happens and non-stop attention and while I agree with that I think about how many things that school is known for that get zero media and they will forever be known for that. Jokes aren't funny!! AT ALL.
@GodRoseares should have said something. Im not seeing any justice again just one mans word against another mans word. And even if he knew he followed protocal, If anyone should be leaving here are the 3. The President of the University, The man who witnessed the act and didn't do anything, and The man who committed the crimes. This is using a very delicate issue and with misunderstandings others have created has caused large turmoil and the loss of a college football legend. A truly sad day.
Yes because that's a proper reaction when clearly everyone at Penn State had so much to do with the scandal. In case you can't register sarcasm since you can't seem to register logic, the students and teachers had nothing to do with what happened. A lot of the students weren't even alive or knowledgable enough to know what was going on.
Why do you think he said "I wish I had done more"? That implies that he could of done more and didn't. That's really all anyone who is a completely delusional "JoePa" fanatic would need to know to realize what took place here.
Oh in that case forget everything I wrote. Obviously there was nothing more he could of done. I'm not even going to bring up the emails that are starting to surface now that show "JoePa the enabler" was completely aware of what this animal was up to.
he did let that happen but he was still one of the best football coaches ever. if he wasnt a great football coach i would have probably been ready to punch him or something
That is what I am talking about. People say sports isn't important but there are so many layers to this that have nothing to do with sports-that is what I have always said. This is so much more about Millen thnking he had Paterno et al figured out and that dissolving into a trivial mess than anything else. :( I am imagining it being agonizing at best. Our former football player is married and I believe has 20 something kids.
"He's been in my home", translates to, "he's been around my children". What a horrifying thing to realize, that this man, whom you consider a friend, is the *worst* kind of monster. Worse yet? He's been around *your* kids. I can't even imagine.
Matt Millen has nothing to apologize for. I've always respected him as a broadcaster, and now I respect him even more. His heart was truly broken for Sandusky's victims, and also for the damage done to coach Paterno and the Penn St program. He was honest, emotional, and truly horrified by the whole situation.
No damage was done to Paterno.
@@jeffpedler6094 His reputation is forever tarnished. Deservedly so.
@@gebremenfeskidus9567 Exactly!
Can't believe it's been almost 10 years since this news first broke. I remember being out to eat somewhere in my hometown when the news broke and then going home & listening to the initial reports on ESPN & I was just in complete shock. I was at the last game Paterno coached (the snow game against Illinois) & even then I never saw this coming. I also was there when he won his 400th game. And in an instant. it seemed that none of it mattered anymore. I'm a VA Tech Hokies fan in an entire household of Penn State fans, so this was a notable, sad event for us as a CFB loving family.
Joe Paterno knew all about the "Rhythmic slap, slap, slapping sounds."
Same too. I remember it well. I was my freshman year in high school and I could remember watching Dancing With the Stars with the family and I overheard my mom and older brother talking about an assistant coach at Penn State raping boys and I was like: “This can’t be Penn State?” And sure enough it was. The next when I was in intervention class with my brother and he was talking about it with the teacher who so happened to be my football coach and I talked about it with him and I said I thought it was a bunch of BS and the NCAA is like: “Now that we already bullied Ohio State long enough, who’s next on the list so that we can give Michigan a fighting chance at a national title let alone a Big 10 conference title?” Coach gave that are you kidding look and said “Do you know what that guy did? He should be shot” I didn’t know about the scandal well enough back then and looking back I feel very stupid for saying those remarks. And ever since the scandal, I’ve hated Penn State and every single thing about them to the core. Go Bucks
Matt Millen was obviously sickened and shocked by what Jerry Sandusky did. He was emotional. But his point was that even though it was an emotional issue, even for him, those emotions should not drive people to make other decisions. It was like when he said that part of him wanted to "take care of it" himself...he stepped back and said that doing so would be the wrong thing. Divorcing yourself of emotions when making decisions doesn't mean you can't have emotions. You just need to TEMPORARILY put those emotions aside and be rational.
4 years later this still hurts
+cbone72 Imagine Sandusky's victims, they'll carry that pain until they die.
7 years later and there are people in and around Penn State who STILL defend Paterno.
Almost 10 years later as an Ohio State fan remembering tattoo gate around that time, I was shocked cause it was a respected program and thought it was just a bunch of sham. Looking back now I lost alot of respect and gained hatred for Penn State.
@@Benjimac379 can’t blame an entire university for the actions of a few
...you felt for this guys? The guy who cared way more for the Pedophile and the guy who knew about the Pedophile but decided to not report what he knew. He cared way more for them, so ummm what about the Victims?
i can say that Matt is one of the most entertaining and emotional people on TV covering sports. Keep doing what your doing.
Penn State did not break any Ncaa Rules when this happened the players were punished for something they did not do which wasn't fair to them. It shouldd have been a state matter not a Ncaa matter
@Blue Skeptic dummy, he's saying that only Paterno and Sandusky should be charged by the law and that the players shouldn't have to face the punishments.
God bless you, Matt Millen. You can see the absolute pain and anguish on his face.
God bless another man who turns a blind eye? GTFO.
I don't think Paterno was a monster or supported child sexual assault... but I cannot make an argument where he's not to blame in some way for enabling it to continue or not doing something to stop it. And it really is sad that many people in my state only want to argue about how Paterno is the victim here and shouldn't lose his god status when there is a list of abused kids who really are victims. Whatever we do, don't tear down a football deity by holding him accountable for his decisions or lack of action! He built a library!
God status revoked, he's mortal.
Steve Parkin same here I doubt that he is a monster but he should’ve known what is going on you can’t be that idiotic to think that it’s not his place to know did he do the absolute minimal of what he’s supposed to do yes he should’ve went to the police first paterno would’ve have been a hero beyond what he was he would’ve been the biggest college sports hero of all time should Paterno be hated for what he did no should his greatness be questioned absolutely without a doubt
It took a while but there’s more facts & it turns out that Paterno didn’t know. The activist media created a narrative that hid some facts regarding his grand jury testimony. Matt Millen was right here.
Hows he not a monster. He enabled child rape.
I wonder if he just refused to believe it
@@Kevin-it4fh I think its one of those things where he probably did not want to believe it. Sandusky was a long time friend, etc. I know that I have at first rejected to believe certain things that seemed too impossible to be true before I finally accepted them. The difference is, the stuff that I had a hard time accepting was not on the level of child rape by a person that I was enabling, and secondly, I eventually accepted the truth. If one of my assistants reported what was reported to Paterno... "Well, I mentioned it once to somebody in charge and nothing came of it, so I did my part, now I'm just going to pretend it never happened" would not be good enough for me to absolve myself. It's a character test. At the end of the day, Joe Paterno is who had to live with this. I don't have to judge him, he judged himself. It obviously crushed him when the story broke. He probably wondered how football became so important that it wound up preventing him from doing the right thing. I doubt Joe Paterno would be okay with a statue honoring himself in light of what happened.
Did anyone else get disgusted by this guys counterfeit emotions? He is either the worse judge of character I have ever seen, or he's in on it! He knew Sandusky for how long, and NEVER heard rumors of pedophilia? Have people become so naive and dumbed down that they actually buy any of this CRAP? Come on people, WAKE UP already.
.. What Fleury wants to tell those boys in this Penn State tragedy - the ones who have come forward, the ones who are trying to summon the courage, the ones who are suffering alone, the ones whom we will never know about - is don't quit before the miracle.
I love that in one breath, Millen is making excuses for Paterno and trying to cast doubt on the facts of the situation, then when asked about Sandusky, he says something to the effect of not being able to see it coming because he knew the guy so well. Compelling case there, Matty.
@AnneLiesveld You are missing the point, Paterno didn't follow up on what was being done with Sandusky, PERIOD. I'm not saying he performed these sex acts on kids himself but, he did very little to stop it.
As soon as she brings up that Millen is a parent and a grandfather, you can see Millen wince.
good to see someone close to it who starts off trying to be fair when talking about something that there is nothing fair about but then has to get honest I hope the rest do that
Joe Pa reported to the Penn State university Police. What he should have done, was report it to the Pennsylvania State Police. Big difference between the two and at his age, he assumed that was enough, but the Penn state university Police clearly was a part of the cover-up, because they made it about image, reputation, recruiting and most of all MONEY!!!
Seems to me Matt Millen would not have done anything either in the same position. That is what I infer. Anyone else?
Millen has probably broken down about this alot…the man basically grew up in the Penn St philosophy on the game and too see his idols go down the way they did destroyed him inside as it should of and we saw a little bit of it come out here…every player that played at Penn St from ‘70-‘05 probably feels the exact same way and it’s a damn shame alot of good players came out of Penn st during that period
Sandusky is one hell of a manipulator. That man concealed his actions for years while being heavily involved with major organizations made up of thousands of people. I always see people talking online about Paterno like he was involved with Sandusky's actions... Paterno heard from McQueary about something he saw in the showers. He should have said to McQueary, "what did you do to stop the incident?" Maybe Paterno could be criticized for that, but the eyewitness is the most accountable here.
I was referring to your post where your reply was "Bingo!" to the guy that wrote "...all the News channels are owned by one group of people". Mind explaining who is that "group" of people?
I'll tell you what. I was never really a fan of Matt Millen, but when I saw this.....man....nothing but respect.
So you Respect a Man who cared more about Sandusky and Paterno then the Victims?
Really?
@@MrLTLB Replying to a 9 year old comment?
Really?
But anyway, I don’t know. Don’t even remember the context of all this anymore to be honest 🤷♂️
@@CoolHandLuke813
Its cool...I literally just found out about all of this and I guess seeing how the Penn State Student body reacted to Paterno being Fired, and kind of just ignoring the Victim...i was like D@MN...but its good, stay blessed tho 🙏🏽
@davemroz27 Damn, nevermind I just read the grand jury report. He testified he knew. It doesn't look good for him.
"...The University is a business to be run....there are so many things that need to be taken care". ~ Millen. Uh Matt...The University has the responsibility to do one thing, and one thing, only...EDUCATE! That's it, that's all, nothing more, nothing less.
It's a fact that Paterno didn't go to the cops right away, he only went to the ad. That's morally wrong imo. Paterno cared more about the program/his image than those poor kids or else he woulda gone to the cops asap. Millen just doesn't want to believe a figure he admired and looked up to for years made a huge mistake.
Caoch Paterno's conversation and action that should of come. Coach Sandusky I had a very terrible accusation brought against you and I have to call the Police and notify them of the allegations. I suggest you get an attorney and you are now put on leave as a coach and not allowed on campus until investigation is done. I pray that these thing s are not true and if they are may GOD have mercy on your soul and the boys who were violated.
In 2022 this is an awful take by Millen
How
@@johnherney4093 for starters defending a person who harbored a pedophile, then constantly saying taking emotion out when he himself clearly has emotional ties to those coaches and the university
right? it’s like hilariously bad.
Anybody that was informed of the information that he was privy to, needs to go straight to the police, and if not, take full responsibility for not doing so. Sorry Matt, and sorry Joe. Jerry Scumdusky needs to rot in prison, and Joe, along with all at Penn State with knowledge needed to go.
Matt Millen is a good man
You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for clowning the university for what the coaches have done.
if i was the espn reporter i would of asked Matt Millen did Jerry Sandusky try to take you to the showers
Send Sandusky to prison so he can feel what those 8 young boys felt!
this is ridiculous, I cant believe Matt Millen would seriously overlook the bigger picture here and speak the way he has, especially when he said "im sure Joe Paterno is feeling the same way right now" uh NO, INCORRECT, he probaby felt that way decades ago upon initially learning of Sanduskys horrible crimes and yet, apparently didnt feel terrible enough to take any damn stand for it. And for Matt Millen to not enough tread carefully enough to recognize that at the end of the day, sports and other non essential life matters play zero importance towards relinquishing the trauma and impact that Sandusky laid onto his victims, and those people, above all else deserve justice and recognition. Penn state makes me sick.
Kyong Hansen u know u make me sick I had to go thru bad times at school just because of this and ur a bitch u have no idea what it's like ur a big bitch who knows nothing about this
By all accounts, Sandusky didn't tie anyone up and force them to have sex. These young men consented each time. Sandusky may be guilty of STATUTORY rape, but Joe Paterno has absoultely nothing to do with it. What was he suppose to say: "Hey school officials. Jerry is having consensual sex with young men". Seriously, some of you drama queens need to get a life.
there is nothing that joe didnt know about psu, or whats going on.
This guy used the words "divorce yourself" too many times in this interview. What's that about?
the investigation was done by former fbi agents and federal prosecutors. the man who headed the team was a former fbi director and federal judge. i am relatively certain that the facts they found are quite reliable.
Wow, incredible. I have lived in the State College area for many of years now. For everyone who is bashing Millen obviously do not get what the Penn State family is. Penn State is more than a University. It is a lifestyle (and before all you immature people begin saying, "yeah, a pedophile lifestyle", try acting your age for once and liste). Penn State is a community. Once a Nittany Lion, more than a Nittany Lion. This is why Millen is upset, and why he cries. It is sad for alumni and all.
Matt Millen is a stand up guy. Glad he spoke from the heart.
2:25 Matt Millen went straight Randy Marsh 😂 "IM SORRY I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA"
nice to see some real emotion on the news
I'd have to say that Matt Millen is my favourite Raider of all time as a personality and Football brain,it's hard to top him.
Gary Schultz was the head of Penn State Police. Paterno did think he was doing enough at the time by reporting up the chain, which is what he was supposed to do.
When nothing happened... MAYBE then he should have acted further--but I think the real burden was in his superior's hands. He was a figurehead, a face for Penn State, but in the end his colleagues likely thought the same about him-- in essence, a overly proud, dottering old fool.
You have to grow up in a nation of a football team and the pride of those programs to understand this. Joe Paterno was a an icon in college football and this program was so great but this kills all of that. I grew up in Nebraska and if Osborne or Devaney was involved in something like this it would be devastating. That being said the issues of Penn State were sick and God only knows how wide this was. Those behind that whole issue should be punished to the extent of the law and pray to God that he forgives them for they have a special place waiting if the word is true.
I don't know what the big deal is, who here can say they don't know the joy of a nice, young boy? The joy a nice young boy can bring, the pure, PURE pleasure that a nice, generous young boy willing to do just about anything can bring? Who amongst you can say you havent taken, one, two, maybe fourteen boys into your back parlor and given them candy and drinks, perhaps even video taped the experience so you can relive that joy at other times? Isn't this America? Aren't we all AMERICANS?
@AnneLiesveld were coaches on the campus of, he hung out on campus with them, he connected with them as men, trusted them as father figures. This isn't about seeing them be "not perfect" I am sure they could get divorced and he would still respect them. this is SO MUCH BIGGER (I bet) for him! I don't know his feelings but I could imagine seeing something like this about a hs or college coach and imagine how i would feel. I STILL TO THIS DAY respect most of my hs teachers. I can rlt
I think it's just as sad that law officials swept the first occurrence under the rug yet everyone had no problem picking on an 85 year old man who probably had a bigger positive impact on the world in one year than most of us could hope to have in a lifetime. If you've never been to State College/University Park to see even a tiny bit of impact that this man has had on the immediate community there you should shut it. He lived to a higher moral standard than most of us could ever hope to.
opinion: I so agree with you. Nothing wrong. He clearly respected those people and I am sure was as in shock as anybody.
I don't remember that. I do remember being a NU fan (now you know my alliance) knowing that the person who alledgedly saw stuff was going to be at the NU-PSU game. There might have been people on campus leadership wise "supporting him" but I doubt that most students now a days respect him. Plus, looking at it from the student perspective I can understand that I respect NU coaches so I can imagine the emotions I would feel if they were involved in this kind of mess. I can imagine that students
The Bottom line to me is that Joe Pa was in his 70's. The man was certainly not fit to run this program. I think Joe Pa is being persecuted without fairness. So, we all know as a matter of fact that he knew this? Wrong. Just wait and see the facts.
Bottom line the first case was a damn scam and set up...and that is why the victim was bullied in the school b/c all this shit didn't end with him when it started with him in the beginning, his mom should be sued.. for not doing shit. OH AND IF THE SECOND MILE KNEW ABOUT THE disorder Sandusky has. HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN HIRED IN SECOND MILE AND HE WOULD HAVE NEVER MET ANY OF THE KIDS!
Put your feelings to the side Detriot Fans Matt Millen this is not about your sorry football team It was sorry before Millien came in. But he has a big heart and i give him a standing O for doing his job i always liked him being a broadcaster
Millen is right on the mark
...no. No, Paterno knew about something and he decided to do nothing. Because if he didnt know anything then why was he involved in conversation about speaking and meeting with Sandusky about what happened. Why was he involved?
Millen was putting everything about this situations First...except for the Victims.
Yea or Sandusky could have stopped it by controlling himself--but apparently that isn't an option. How is Penn State as a campus responsible for this?
What do you think he meant by he "Could of done more" to stop this animal?
I just saw the marble shower stall monument they plan on putting in front of the stadium. Very nice dedication to the entire Penn State family.
Lou Mcnabb 😂😂😂
As a Navy Fan I Felt So Bad For Penn State Big Time!
I should not have made the comment and no I don't defend what happened but what did the freshman on campus do to deserve that or the person who is a math teacher or the grandchild of a former player who is dealing with watching a grandfather deal with that situation or the son of the more recent full time players. and it is NOT PED STATE AGAIN I REPEAT IT IS NOT PED STATE! I can't imagine how much these comments would offend an ACTUAL penn state student considering I am NOT one.
Matt Millen: 0-11.
This just sounds so legit too when you hear MM talking about He can't imagine JS that way. I thought I read online that MM has grown kids (probably closer to my age (32 in may) and I can imagine that must have been a wonderfully fun time for him to have to talk about this.
What is he talking about, is he siding with Sandusky or not
Instead of wasting valuable time with these jealous haters we should ban together and ask the county to properly honor Joe with a special rememberance day. That would be fitting since he had done so much good for the students who attended Penn State. Always remember Joseph Paterno and his family.
It goes to show you that you cannot trust anyone with your children, its so sickening, these were children, a man took advantage of children in the worse possible way and people basically let this sick man run about with children and didnt think twice about what they felt, just tryn to cover up and protect the university thats why people are so angry at both the administration and coach paterno
Don't cal it "ped" state for the staff person in the math department, don't call it that for the person who was a freshman last year who (12 years ago) was 6, for the senior who had a stressful senior year. those are a few of the people not responsible for "ped state" and it is GIVEN a reason otherwise. When you are being picky, please grammar check
dont take this out of context........blaming paterno for all of this is like blaming ronald mcdonald because the hamburlar was a pedophile but the owners let the hamburlar hang around still, yes this sounds ludacris and im not saying it isnt but paterno was a coach and a familiar face, he did not run that place, he wasnt the president of penn state he brought the accusations to the people in charge and they dropped the ball. i know im going to get alot of stupid comments save them!!
"i actually read the cases and see what i can come up with for myself." ... thats called opinion not fact !
considering we haven't played a conference game is an non factor.
I developed more respect for him after this
Wow...you guys cared way more about Paterno and Sandusky then the Victims.
Okay...alright...I see you guys...
That comment didn’t age well
@torontothegood feeling like He respected them as integrity-filled strong responsible men and they are no more that but he remembers them as being all that so is emotional. He looked very genuinely emotional--even struggling with eye contact with his co-worker eyes as a intervewee.
I doubt he would but I am guessing it is a completely different emotion to know that it wasn't a "total stranger" that commited such offenses and an actual friend.
the only person to blame is Sandusky...Paterno should have been allowed to finish the season...ya he could of done more but if theres someone other than Sandusky to blame then is McQueary he should have gone to the police after it happened regardless of what Paterno said to him...also did the parents of these kids have no idea? Were they watchin the news when they first found out about this? If you can go 10 years or more and not know your kid was molested then they share some of the blame
@ABlemishedOceanSoul That's pretty much what Millen said if you watch the whole thing.
I know that joe should have done more, but it is wrong to keep taking shots at people who cant defend themselves now. He is the only person for sure who knew his reasonings and everyone is making assumptions based on hearsay. I do believe he should have done more, and it was wrong that he didn't, but he never really had a chance to defend himself. Everyone needs to stop focusing on him and help the victims/ prevent this horrible act from ever recurring.
why do people keep feeding the trolls
I am guessing he would have responded different but since he does actually know him as a person it isnt like he is a "ficticious person" and it isnt ilke he can "imagine if his kids had spent time with him
THERE ARE RULES JOE HAD TO FOLLOW HE COULD ONLY TELL A SPECIFIC PERSON, HE DID WHAT HE COULD DO, IF HE DID NOT FOLLOW RULES, YOU CAN BE FIRED. DUAH! AND NO HE WAS NOT MOST POWERFUL, THE PRESIDENT OF PSU IS TO BLAME FOR ALL THIS SHIT!! THE POLICE KEEPING IT PRIVET ALSO TO BLAME!
I’m a Ohio State fan I have no issue with Matt Millen a very passionate man. Listen Joe was naive. He did tell his boss but should have done more. It upsets me that people treat Joe worse then the School President, The AD, Mike McQuary or Jerry Sandusky. The President & AD knew something happened. Worse McQuary walked in on a incident. Get the guy off the kid & scream for help so people come running, don’t give me I had to talk to my father about what to do. Now the big thing that few people understand Joe Pa wasn’t friendly when Sandusky they just worked on the same staff the misconception is they were friends no they weren’t ask anyone around that school.
Joe was the Head Coach he ran practices but Sandusky ran the defense & the meetings of that unit. If you know football the offense & defense watch separate film in separate rooms I guarantee you when Sandusky was running the defensive meetings Joe wasn’t there & would appear probably stick his head in the door saying “Coach game plan for the game going ok????”
This idea that Joe & Sandusky were such good friends & that was part of the cover up is ridiculous.
Friendly NU fan here and I can appreciate your comments. Friendly: You don't even have to be a HUGE sports fan to feel. This interview shows the hard of a 48ish year old man feeling like his entire "grade" of school respected him. I mean, Bawstin I see you putting that you saw this guy as a "God" but I imagine all it would take is for someone like Matt to know that he respected his former "boss." I would imagine that it is alot less than a God level or I have a "god" like respect for former
I feel bad for victim one b/c of how his family treated him, and his dad was never there, that is why he was happy, he was getting presents, when Jerry stopped getting him gifts and mom money they told police the rape story and his mom started bragging. THAT IS SICK. I hope one day that gets out and his mom goes to jail. JERRY WAS GUILTY SO IT IS FINE HE IS BEHIND BARS SO IT IS WAY BETTER NOW. I feel bad for all the other victims and I hate that he did that to those poor kids.
Joe was framed
i am a uncle of four and if i saw him do this to my nephew he wouldnt be walking
Am I the only one who notices that Joe Paterno actually looked and even sounded like the actor Joe Pesce ( Casino,Goodfellas,etc) ?
Tell them that. It's hard to taake in and only time may calm people down and cause them to realize the bad thing he did
On Sept. 18, 2005, the cocaine and vodka lost their ability to soothe Fleury’s pain. He cracked. He crumbled.
"I finally had a conversation with the Big Guy Upstairs and I called Him every name in the book," Fleury said. "I told Him, 'I know the whole You-only-give-me-as-much-as-I-can-handle thing. Well, I'm full. I need you to take a little.' At the end of the conversation, I prayed for Him to take away the obsession. ..
@SilentPainTears This was before Joe was fired, and before he even said he would resign
I can imagine if I saw him doing it to my nephew. That is what amazed me about how non reactive McQueary was and then I listened to McQueary talk on interviews about feelings such shock about what happened and I realized it isn't like McQuery "walked into a grocery store and saw ....... and reacted. People who put "what if he had saw a kid being violated in the real world etc do you realize that he had a human connection to that person so it isn't like he just "saw something randomly?"
Mike McQueary: shock/disbelief
Congrats media. You destroyed another hero with your relentless attack. Our society sucks.
seriously you have no right blaming me or my family we did not know about this till it got JOE PA fired when he had lung cancer then ending up dead...died of a broken heart..everyone in psu that are not fans or students treated Joe and his family like shit. and it is sick and wrong when he is already gone and people still talking down on him...anyway no one was protecting anyone but that policeman keeping it secret and not doing his job, never got fired. its stupid.
hmmm wonder what Millen would have said if he didn't know Jo Pa.
You forgot OJ and Michael Jackson.
sorry i made a mistake ok? You know people make spelling errors, no one is perfect.
True. I agree with you about that. What bugs me most isn't that every senior now had a horrid year it is that they are doing (like all college students on campus' everywhere doing good things and of course media makes no attention there and then this happens and non-stop attention and while I agree with that I think about how many things that school is known for that get zero media and they will forever be known for that. Jokes aren't funny!! AT ALL.
@GodRoseares should have said something. Im not seeing any justice again just one mans word against another mans word. And even if he knew he followed protocal, If anyone should be leaving here are the 3. The President of the University, The man who witnessed the act and didn't do anything, and The man who committed the crimes. This is using a very delicate issue and with misunderstandings others have created has caused large turmoil and the loss of a college football legend. A truly sad day.
Yes because that's a proper reaction when clearly everyone at Penn State had so much to do with the scandal. In case you can't register sarcasm since you can't seem to register logic, the students and teachers had nothing to do with what happened. A lot of the students weren't even alive or knowledgable enough to know what was going on.
Disgrace that they're even playing football.
That's like saying we should all get out of America because it was taken from the natives...
@@Kevin-it4fh. Y’all should.
Why do you think he said "I wish I had done more"? That implies that he could of done more and didn't. That's really all anyone who is a completely delusional "JoePa" fanatic would need to know to realize what took place here.
We did ask the correct questions
Oh in that case forget everything I wrote. Obviously there was nothing more he could of done. I'm not even going to bring up the emails that are starting to surface now that show "JoePa the enabler" was completely aware of what this animal was up to.
he did let that happen but he was still one of the best football coaches ever. if he wasnt a great football coach i would have probably been ready to punch him or something
That is what I am talking about. People say sports isn't important but there are so many layers to this that have nothing to do with sports-that is what I have always said. This is so much more about Millen thnking he had Paterno et al figured out and that dissolving into a trivial mess than anything else. :( I am imagining it being agonizing at best. Our former football player is married and I believe has 20 something kids.
i have seen you on like 10 different videos if you dont like the greatest university on the planet then stop commenting