The problem with it is: 1. They can delay wakeup holding L2+R2 to block trap and make throw wiff. 2. It does so low of damage that you can only get around 60% for all your kameo meter. His other setups with Jax are 30-37% combos into +35 RESTANDS with traps and Jax gives you 25% Throw Loops, 1000hp(10% more health), you can do any string into Jax ground pound and BF4 "Sky Drop" basically jails after unblockable where it can break armor and beat jump. So its guaranteed extra damage (17% i believe) full screen. The easy setups are 30% into the +35 Restand that firces them to guess between Strike Throw ShmMIX and thats 60% with only half Kameo meter used, you can get 85-90% with full Kameo meter. Way better damage. So i don't use Scorpion trap setups because it's too low damage. But you can use Scorpion for different setups like F2xxEXDB1 which catches reversal button and if you U+K right when F2 hits on block the Sky Skull will combo into J21xxF44 for 31% and leave you +50 so you can get a free portal buff out to start chipping eith zoning and play your keep away using 3/F2/F4/B34/B3/4xxBF1xxDB1xx4xxInstantAirBF1 Im npt attacking this setup, just stating there are better ones with other Kameos. I think Cyrax and Sub Zero give Quan combos where you set trap behind them and combo into them with F21(high damage string) its just a combo using it but cool nonetheless. Tremor gives crazy damage off any SkyDrop anywhere (combo ender/Armor/S4xxBF4) and it's 38-40% Meterless. Tremor also gives 1000hp. I wonder if you can do trap setups using Stryker because that would be crazy strong having Stryker pressure!
I ain’t gone hold you it do say you posted this 3 days ago. But ahmz 1404 is like the og of kombos a lot of kombos don’t drop until he drops a video lol pro players watch ahmz 1404 just to learn high damage kombos
@@LastPrimeGaming I respect it, truthfully I wouldn’t have even saw this unless it popped on my home page. I’m just happy people are actually using the setup and getting value out of it, at the end of the day that’s what I make videos for. And that’s my most watched video so far so I know enough people have seen it at this point
Hey did you know Shujinko steals the bones 🦴 cage move ? You might find something interesting maybe with Shang/Shujinko or Kenshi/Shujinko against Quan
No you can't block it. I've done this setup with Jax and Sub and the throw beats block and the mid beats duck. Tons of characters have this, Kitana does it with her wind bomb setup move that's a Mid and it's unblockable. Cyrax bomb does it with Reptile. Sindel does it and Johnny has a Unblockable with Goro Stomp. There are most likely more that we just don't know about. I can do throw into freeze with Sub Zero and it's unblockable as well on wakeup if you do it just frame.
Try it with sub, u can actually forward 4 into sub, enhance the cage, forward 4 again call ur zone of power and the enemy gets trapped wnd u can mix from there. I seen it on fgc destroyer channel
@@ForeverBlazedhe has an overhead and low launcher.🤣 he got mix. Maybe not true 50/50, but he for sure has mix. Try blocking stand 1 2 and stand 1 into low tentacle. Not happening.🤣
@@ForeverBlazedwhy you say that, you can fuzzy his 13/B34 but he has mind games with 122/13 if they try to Upblock and he has Strike/Throw with 25% looping throws using Jax Kameo and it's 50/50 Then he has 2144/213 mix and 214xxDB4/2144 which is true mix that has opened up Top 10 players like Dragon, Rewind, Xombat on stream in long sets.
how do you get scorpion to pop up on the other side to use the flame to bring the opponent back to you? When I do it Scorpion is closer to quanchi and pushes the opponent away.
@@OctopusH2O actually utilizing the tutorial instead of watching RUclips tutorials is so significant. People just don’t have the patience. Nrs does a great job with their tutorials. Practice mode is good when you actually know what to practice. This guy is struggling with combos. He needs the tutorials before he tries anything useful in practice mode.
I’ll put some tips into the video, but the best one I got is throw your axe down and remember to stay close to it because you have a armor command grab when you are near it
Scorpion the damage with subzero is subpar and quan chi doesn’t need help zoning because of his stand 4 I think sektor and scorpion are his best kameos in my opinion
I've been using Sub and they have amazing synergy. The ice armor means you will win the zone battle no matter what. I have been using Sub's new move where you can do the shoulder as an ambush during Ice armor buff. I will get a knock down, put on ice armor and then shoulder to stop any wake up and allow myself to back up and continue zoning. Also with sub you can get 30+ combos for one bar which is a blessing in Quans case lol.
I woudnt say so if sindel can spam kung Lao hat and jumps and reiko can ninja stars the entire match I woudnt say it’s cowardly it’s just how this game is with defense
You can do with this any character against Quan Chi if you use shujinko as a Kameo. I’m running Raiden/Shujinko and I’m currently 23/9 in KL. Went 31/0 in KOH.
You realise that dmg percentage counts in only one combo. You had 3..... So that means that every combo has about 300 dmg, which is extremely average.... Nice detective work, sherlock.
the set-up is fake in this particular scenario, the enemy is just mashing to get out. If this was a proper unblockable set-up you would be able to grab em and then get em jailed in the bone cage. To get the proper set-up u have to set the trap behind em not on top of em. If u go in training, the bot will just block it and due to plus frames, the grab will whiff entirely. Place it BEHIND em on the other hand (so far version of the EX cage, hold forward version) and then grab em and u get the unblockable set-up... the catch is that due to desync animation the damage will be gutted xD
@@zionaleem8795 yeah i tried a few times. I think that the reason why i was dubious is that for my own set-up i place the trap "Behind em" so even if i'm off, they still have to respect the trap behind" and if they mash they get swalloed by it. my b on this one i'll graciously take the L since he does showcase my poin at the end
I honestly think it’s stupid how this game has so much broken stuff. Unblockable set-ups and other nonsense. Guess it’s to be cool and flashy to appeal to “pro” clowns out there
@@jojox1733 It’s not a him issue so it’s unfair for him to have to switch games. What you should be saying is ytf is an unblockable setup “that is not only unblockable but u literally can’t do anything about it” in the game. It just makes the entire game 1 sided. It’s like playing yugioh and getting all your effects negated so you have to pass your turn.
@@unowr79 Yeah no, sorry but I disagree. When it comes to really aggressive fighting games, this type of stuff is the norm. And his comment was more so bitching than bringing actual criticism. NRS isn’t putting “nonsense” and “appealing to pro clowns out there,” they’re making the game aggressive, fun, and creative, which is what most fans asked for after the more tame mk11. I said he should change games because this is an aggressive style game and he probably doesn’t vibe with that style.
@@jojox1733 If you think nearly Impossible to escape setups that lead into a potential 100% combo that trap you on recovery is normal, then you clearly don’t play fighting games. If I asked you to name popular aggressive fighting games in this current time with this type of setup there are literally none, so ur also lying. There is also no possible way anyone with a brain would ever look at this and think “this should stay in the game”. Even the people saying it’s cool still think it’s too powerful and should get nerfed, you are the only person i’ve seen arguing that it should stay in the game because it’s the “norm” for aggressive fighting games which is simply not true. You don’t have experience with fighting games which is definitely shown by you defending sad strats like this to finesse and gain an advantage that shouldn’t even exist. You couldn’t name a single up to date fighting game with this type of setup, stop pulling stuff out of thin air. It’s not normal nor is it balanced or fair.
I mean all they had to do is block low though so definitely not potentially unblockable lol but i do like this set up. I do something similar with subzero
@@thr33ificationalthough I was using subzero when I practiced this, but I found that all you need to do is block. It only hits if you press a button or wake up armor. And if you time it a different way yoy can actually extend your original combo with the cage. Idk how it is with scorpion, but the grab doesn’t seem to connect if you block.
Now thats what i wanted to see!! I saw a lot of ppl werent taking advantage of his kit
I swear the brutalities are better than most fatalities in this game
I second that
Quan Chi has really good fatals tho
@@EdwardPerez-x1g yea. They are cool that’s why I said most. But there are loads of brutalities that are better than the fatalities.
Have been since MKX
Fatalities are bad compared to the brutality. His second one is cool.
The problem with it is:
1. They can delay wakeup holding L2+R2 to block trap and make throw wiff.
2. It does so low of damage that you can only get around 60% for all your kameo meter.
His other setups with Jax are 30-37% combos into +35 RESTANDS with traps and Jax gives you 25% Throw Loops, 1000hp(10% more health), you can do any string into Jax ground pound and BF4 "Sky Drop" basically jails after unblockable where it can break armor and beat jump. So its guaranteed extra damage (17% i believe) full screen.
The easy setups are 30% into the +35 Restand that firces them to guess between Strike Throw ShmMIX and thats 60% with only half Kameo meter used, you can get 85-90% with full Kameo meter. Way better damage.
So i don't use Scorpion trap setups because it's too low damage. But you can use Scorpion for different setups like F2xxEXDB1 which catches reversal button and if you U+K right when F2 hits on block the Sky Skull will combo into J21xxF44 for 31% and leave you +50 so you can get a free portal buff out to start chipping eith zoning and play your keep away using 3/F2/F4/B34/B3/4xxBF1xxDB1xx4xxInstantAirBF1
Im npt attacking this setup, just stating there are better ones with other Kameos. I think Cyrax and Sub Zero give Quan combos where you set trap behind them and combo into them with F21(high damage string) its just a combo using it but cool nonetheless.
Tremor gives crazy damage off any SkyDrop anywhere (combo ender/Armor/S4xxBF4) and it's 38-40% Meterless. Tremor also gives 1000hp.
I wonder if you can do trap setups using Stryker because that would be crazy strong having Stryker pressure!
What's the Jax setup
I’ve been having fun with frost and her lack of scaling but ferra I think would be a must at this point for health
Glad to see someone putting the setup I created to good use, good stuff 🙏🏿
I ain’t gone hold you it do say you posted this 3 days ago. But ahmz 1404 is like the og of kombos a lot of kombos don’t drop until he drops a video lol pro players watch ahmz 1404 just to learn high damage kombos
@@LastPrimeGaming I respect it, truthfully I wouldn’t have even saw this unless it popped on my home page. I’m just happy people are actually using the setup and getting value out of it, at the end of the day that’s what I make videos for. And that’s my most watched video so far so I know enough people have seen it at this point
@@Rahjamatic Lol I appreciate you watching the video, thank you 🙏🏿
Your commentary was very funny 😂 Keep putting them on your videos.
Haha much love 👁️
Hey did you know Shujinko steals the bones 🦴 cage move ? You might find something interesting maybe with Shang/Shujinko or Kenshi/Shujinko against Quan
Video should be called “How to cause a Rage Quit every match”
LMAO 😭😭
U may use standing 4 for more damage before setup
There we go my man 😎
Rich Homie Quan Chi got the realist gfx in the game
Most of this was discovered 3 days ago by another youtuber called haysan32, people. Go give his videos some love!
Hilarious commentary and good gameplay thanks
No Thankyou
This can be blocked though. The Cage hits mid so the opponent can block easily.
You can’t because the grab takes the block I explain it later I’m the video
No you can't block it. I've done this setup with Jax and Sub and the throw beats block and the mid beats duck.
Tons of characters have this, Kitana does it with her wind bomb setup move that's a Mid and it's unblockable.
Cyrax bomb does it with Reptile.
Sindel does it and Johnny has a Unblockable with Goro Stomp. There are most likely more that we just don't know about.
I can do throw into freeze with Sub Zero and it's unblockable as well on wakeup if you do it just frame.
@@combosensei but you can delay wakeup while holding L2+R2 on the throw into trap setup and it makes throw wiff and you block the mid
@@CameronDC-Grimes nah you can block it
Runetrap 2.0
Try it with sub, u can actually forward 4 into sub, enhance the cage, forward 4 again call ur zone of power and the enemy gets trapped wnd u can mix from there. I seen it on fgc destroyer channel
Will do
Quan doesnt have a mix lul
@ForeverBlazed welll u know what I mean lol he got a lil mix
@@ForeverBlazedhe has an overhead and low launcher.🤣 he got mix. Maybe not true 50/50, but he for sure has mix. Try blocking stand 1 2 and stand 1 into low tentacle. Not happening.🤣
@@ForeverBlazedwhy you say that, you can fuzzy his 13/B34 but he has mind games with 122/13 if they try to Upblock and he has Strike/Throw with 25% looping throws using Jax Kameo and it's 50/50
Then he has 2144/213 mix and 214xxDB4/2144 which is true mix that has opened up Top 10 players like Dragon, Rewind, Xombat on stream in long sets.
3:35 the commentary was immaculate loool
Lmao 😭😭
Can’t they just block low after the cage?
Nope the cage locks you in the animation for enough time so they can’t move
Thanks for the tech bro
Much love 👁️
This possible with any other kameos?
Yep from what I know sub zero
What’s the point of the grab when he goes into the bone cage
does the grab still help break armor against low profile moves like sub zero slide for the set up ?
Yep it does it’s the same exact result unless the delay wake in that case you get your turn still and mash
I wonder if they’re going to nerf this. I hope not. With him having the lowest health in the game and a 2 bar launcher its only fair (kinda) hahaha
how do you get scorpion to pop up on the other side to use the flame to bring the opponent back to you? When I do it Scorpion is closer to quanchi and pushes the opponent away.
Up kameo
they finna nerf this into the dirt
LMAO probably let’s enjoy it while it’s here 😭
Doubt it kitana has the same tech without an ex and it never got nerfed
Loooove to see it
Genuine question is ex cage unblockable or how does it work
End of the video I go in depth on how to do it and how it works 👁️
If ur doing it right timing wise with the grab shouldn’t it be knocking you down like Darius. I think if it doesn’t do that it’s technically blockable
Because if you do it right and get it unblockable the damage after scales like crazy
Does this still work I made the AI block it and it managed to block it
ohhhh that's cheesy I like it
We love the cheese 👁️
Bro if they are gonna buff him all me needs is a solid mid fam and he is a top character in the game
What’s the purpose of the block?
This is sick. Dirty as shit but sick. But why the grab that doesn’t connect? Is that an OS for something?
Idk sometime the grab connects for me sometimes it doesn’t but I’ve had success both times
Damn I struggle with combos and struggle with brutalites wish I could have a slow motion video to watch and learn how to combos
Grind the tutorials my man
also u can literally set the video to slow motion. also try practice mode.
You HAVE to start putting time in practice mode, thats the only way, you can watch a thousand tutorials but doing it its another story
@@OctopusH2O actually utilizing the tutorial instead of watching RUclips tutorials is so significant. People just don’t have the patience. Nrs does a great job with their tutorials. Practice mode is good when you actually know what to practice. This guy is struggling with combos. He needs the tutorials before he tries anything useful in practice mode.
Did u get the crampus skin for shao?
Of course I did 👁️ I’m making a video on it rn 😭
So did I I don't play shao any tips for picking him up?
I’ll put some tips into the video, but the best one I got is throw your axe down and remember to stay close to it because you have a armor command grab when you are near it
Who do you actually think is better for Quan Chi? Scorpion or Sub-Zero?
Scorpion the damage with subzero is subpar and quan chi doesn’t need help zoning because of his stand 4 I think sektor and scorpion are his best kameos in my opinion
I've been using Sub and they have amazing synergy. The ice armor means you will win the zone battle no matter what. I have been using Sub's new move where you can do the shoulder as an ambush during Ice armor buff. I will get a knock down, put on ice armor and then shoulder to stop any wake up and allow myself to back up and continue zoning. Also with sub you can get 30+ combos for one bar which is a blessing in Quans case lol.
Isn’t this a bit too cowardly to do ? Definitely nice to have but some people will do it the entire match until they nerf him completely
I woudnt say so if sindel can spam kung Lao hat and jumps and reiko can ninja stars the entire match I woudnt say it’s cowardly it’s just how this game is with defense
@@combosensei Quan Chi is also a very lazy fighter canonically so it makes sense that he would do this
@@combosensei i agree, reiko stars is a another story because it requires no skill and its more of a community problem imo
Is there no counter play at all? Armor, delay wake up, jump, nothing?
Nevermind. Saw the end of the video. Basically delay and know it's his turn
You can't crouch block in the cage?
The cage puts you in a animation for a combo
Can someone just delay wakeup and prevent this?
Yes I’m that case you have oke and get your turn back and can go for your mixups
@@combosensei gonna try that still since Quan as already lots of problems.
Drop another vid!
Will have 2 up in the next 3 days 👁️
This set up drops as soon as they wake up block
You can do with this any character against Quan Chi if you use shujinko as a Kameo. I’m running Raiden/Shujinko and I’m currently 23/9 in KL. Went 31/0 in KOH.
It should've connect as a combo
It does one I do the b3 it counts as 2 hits sometimes it might not but mostly it does
It doesn't work, you avoid it by staying on the floor longer or counterattacking with an ability attack, it shows that you are playing with noobs
I’m in elder god buddy if you could finish the video you can see me show the counters to the setup there’s only one
That’s obviously unintentional and will be nerfed quickly because it’s completely broken
I fought that shang and beat him but hes sweaty af lol
He was a dawg one of the best I’ve seen
You realise that dmg percentage counts in only one combo.
You had 3.....
So that means that every combo has about 300 dmg, which is extremely average....
Nice detective work, sherlock.
You’re an idiot… if you could realize it’s unblockable doesn’t matter if the damage number resets…
an*
delay wakeup stops this
sheeesh
the set-up is fake in this particular scenario, the enemy is just mashing to get out. If this was a proper unblockable set-up you would be able to grab em and then get em jailed in the bone cage.
To get the proper set-up u have to set the trap behind em not on top of em. If u go in training, the bot will just block it and due to plus frames, the grab will whiff entirely. Place it BEHIND em on the other hand (so far version of the EX cage, hold forward version) and then grab em and u get the unblockable set-up... the catch is that due to desync animation the damage will be gutted xD
Please watch the training mode part I proved it’s real…
It’s unblockable. But it’s not inescapable
@@zionaleem8795 yeah i tried a few times. I think that the reason why i was dubious is that for my own set-up i place the trap "Behind em" so even if i'm off, they still have to respect the trap behind" and if they mash they get swalloed by it. my b on this one i'll graciously take the L since he does showcase my poin at the end
@sasaawd1 no no your good I would be suspicious at first too 😭
Lmao
I honestly think it’s stupid how this game has so much broken stuff. Unblockable set-ups and other nonsense. Guess it’s to be cool and flashy to appeal to “pro” clowns out there
Honestly just try a different fighting game bro
@@jojox1733 It’s not a him issue so it’s unfair for him to have to switch games. What you should be saying is ytf is an unblockable setup “that is not only unblockable but u literally can’t do anything about it” in the game. It just makes the entire game 1 sided. It’s like playing yugioh and getting all your effects negated so you have to pass your turn.
@@unowr79 Yeah no, sorry but I disagree. When it comes to really aggressive fighting games, this type of stuff is the norm. And his comment was more so bitching than bringing actual criticism. NRS isn’t putting “nonsense” and “appealing to pro clowns out there,” they’re making the game aggressive, fun, and creative, which is what most fans asked for after the more tame mk11. I said he should change games because this is an aggressive style game and he probably doesn’t vibe with that style.
@@jojox1733 If you think nearly Impossible to escape setups that lead into a potential 100% combo that trap you on recovery is normal, then you clearly don’t play fighting games. If I asked you to name popular aggressive fighting games in this current time with this type of setup there are literally none, so ur also lying. There is also no possible way anyone with a brain would ever look at this and think “this should stay in the game”. Even the people saying it’s cool still think it’s too powerful and should get nerfed, you are the only person i’ve seen arguing that it should stay in the game because it’s the “norm” for aggressive fighting games which is simply not true. You don’t have experience with fighting games which is definitely shown by you defending sad strats like this to finesse and gain an advantage that shouldn’t even exist. You couldn’t name a single up to date fighting game with this type of setup, stop pulling stuff out of thin air. It’s not normal nor is it balanced or fair.
This game is broken...
I mean all they had to do is block low though so definitely not potentially unblockable lol but i do like this set up. I do something similar with subzero
The grab forces the trap if I’m not mistaken
@@thr33ificationalthough I was using subzero when I practiced this, but I found that all you need to do is block. It only hits if you press a button or wake up armor. And if you time it a different way yoy can actually extend your original combo with the cage. Idk how it is with scorpion, but the grab doesn’t seem to connect if you block.