@@junaidunar9148 Also bug fixes that should've been done earlier, but at least were made at last. CJ now doesn't look like a shape-shifter while riding a bike, nor does break his column while crouching.
i like gta vc, dont know about 3 i kinda feel the same about both. but San Andreas, to be completely honest and not nostalgic, with the New lighting i can barely tell the difference between the classic and the ''remake'' before the lighting looked more realistic tbh and in the fields i kinda liked it more. The fog and view distance is definitely better now tho but i think that could ve been fixed without the new filter. idk not 100% about the new filter
@@THENikoBellic I wonder if this can break the gameplay sequence in any way, like some sort of unintended outcome of glitch/bug with them adding this feature
@@theShoop they previously added really distant fog as there was literally nothing before that, but it's not like the classic close up fog rendering in the new lighting
thats called farclip. fog is a bit much. beyond the farclip ("fog") nothing would be rendered. still not perfect as it makes everyday look like its a foggy november day but eh
I noticed the same thing in GTA 3. I was on the little cliff behind Salvatore's Gentlemen's Club on the first island, and with classic lighting on, the ocean has a nice fog in the mornings. With classic lighting off, you instead just see the whole ocean. It still looks nice imo, but the foggy ocean and cloudy skies looked really good. I'm sure there's other areas where classic lighting adds fog like that, but I'm not sure where else. I did notice that it makes nights darker, and it looks so good in Vice City. The clouds look so much better than the original imo. It also helps in GTA 3 because darker nights definitely fit the vibe of Liberty City better.
VC & SA is looking great now, but GTA 3 is completely missing the "blue filter" the PS2 version had, it was giving a really dark atmosphere to the game.
Yeah, it’s kinda shows up sometimes in certain times of day but it definitely should be way more prominent. The other two are baked in the original PS2 lighting
GTA SA classic lightning look like PS2 but better graphics and the classic lightning fixed the fog is back now the old lighting is trash the render distance is set to max
Yeah, classic lighting adds things back in, like the fog at 12:27 . I noticed it does the same thing in GTA 3. I went behind Salvatore's Gentlemen's Club during the morning (on the cliff near Portland beach), and it adds a nice fog over the ocean (I think it added more clouds to the sky too). With classic lighting off, you instead just saw the whole ocean. And while it still looked nice, the fog just better helps to build the atmosphere of Liberty City.
It was okay after a couple of patches a year ago, it's just haters and lemmings who didn't even bothered themselves to check out the game after updates, repeating the same thing they heard from hyping youtubers and streamers on release
@@J0rdan912 I dunno dude. With respect to your opinion. I would partially agree. III and VC, sure. But SA now has traffic. It was barren before. Now with the lighting, collision fixes, peds and cars everywhere, it feels alive.
@@AICThemBones I think definitive edition of SA was based on original PS2 version, it had way less peds, traffic and slightly different physics, including weird traffic spawning and behavior due to console limitations and workarounds. PC version was borderline broken and even worse with all those changes to traffic and physics, especially on framerate higher than 30. I personally didn't played that much of SA in definitive trilogy, but glad to hear if they actually made things work properly now
@@J0rdan912no it wasnt. u talking out of ur butt. they ported the MOBILE versions and let UE ai upscale everything. they put old engine buggy code in a new engine. the perfect recipe for disaster. DE is trash, at ITS CORE
It has improved a lot. We can't forget what they did with the release of this trilogy so this is not about thanking Rockstar for something that should have been like this at launch, but if they also kept some of the fixes that came with the mobile version release, it finally looks like a very good way of playing this games (at least for me). But 3 years late...
Sad thing is that this update is only for the new gen consoles, which sucks because the last gen systems and switch needed the update the most. Edit: they just released the update on old gens. Dunno why they couldn't just wait n release it on all consoles at the same time but atleast it's here
I'm just about to check on my switch when you say that maybe just forget about it Gonna try with pc version later Edit:Well looks like switch receive the update..a bit late
I'd feel more comfortable with it if that weren't done by Grove Street Games And especially because they only released on PS2 and PSP, it would be nice to see them on other consoles and PC
I thought the same, but they have even more licensing issues with VCS, for example because of the Phil Collins songs and cameo. Would cost them too much probably.
Wow, thanks for sharing this comparison! I’m so glad they finally fixed the lighting. The remastered graphics with too-clean lighting really looked cold and sterile. These games were literally designed with that old classic lighting back in the day, so having this fixed now just gels everything together! Finally!
I think this update is a step in the right direction for this game, but I have some issues with it: -why disable the volumetric lights from streetlamps and from the cars, it was a nicely added effect -the fog effect seems kinda weirdly implemented bc it completely occludes the clouds -also the new lightning effect fucks up the volumetric clouds
Im not sure if i prefer the new lighting or the old lighting. Like sometimes i feel like the new one's better and sometimes i feel like the new one's better. The skyboxes are definitely better in the new patch, but i still feel like there's a lot of room for improvements..
The old lightning looks more realistic and the new lightning looks more nostalgic, is a matter of choice. The most important thing is that the fixed some of the bugs 👍
Took 3 years for them to leave the alpha version and now on beta they just need to fix some bugs, glitches, textures redone without AI upscalling and some vehicle behavior like with the helicopters from GTA SA. They are very close to have an improved version compared to the original ones modded.
That's how a lot of us felt when Square decided to destroy the Orange lighting from Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It went from an unique look to Grey, Bland and Flat. And all because some threw a temper tantrum based on their lack of any artistic sensibilities. Deus Ex = PISS FILTER!!! GTA: San Andreas = CLASSIC!!! Sheesh...
@@AquDrIFTIts a game and not real life. So it is art and this a artstyle that matches the map style cause of its size, since it is still a remaster of an 20 year old game and not a remake with more landscape. But they could do it better if they use a complete no render distance with a little fog on the farest point which includes Shadowy outlines of the objects within. Gta 5 on ps3 had sth like that and it looked good
I always applaud it when it fits the game. There was no reason to remove it in GTA in the first place. "Neutral" lighting is an ugly modern trend that started with Minecraft and Fortnite
Each city in San Andreas is supposed to have a different shader (LS being orange, SF being blue and LV being yellow). Did they actually do that with the update or does every city share the same orange shader?
LOL before people were complaining about how the new lighting isn't like the original now they are complaining about how it's identical to the original
I read some comments the other day when the update came out saying the same thing, how Grove Street games wasn't involved with Rockstar anymore. When you look it up, some articles pop up from as back as December 2022 with reports of the same thing. On one hand, it's easy to blame them for how bad the definitive edition launched, but on the other hand, Rockstar themselves cheapened out and knowingly hired mobile only developers. These same developers did the San Andreas 2014 remaster for Xbox 360. I thought it was okay back then when I played it, but playing it again in 2024, it felt so weird. It felt as if I was just screen casting the game from my phone to the TV because it was basically just the mobile version ported over. And like I'm really glad that Rockstar updated the definitive edition on console/pc to be more in line with the Netflix version, but they knew what quality to expect from Grove Street games after the San Andreas remaster, but they hired them back anyways.
Looks even better with the PS5's Auto Tone Mapping feature on combined with Classic Lighting. If you want to have this PS5 feature on. Turn on your TV's dynamic Tone Mapping setting, have HDR always on in the PS5 settings on, have your TV's brightness and contrast at 100, adjust HDR settings in the PS5's options. Make it so the sun clips into the background on the first and second page, make the last page completely black. And you should now have the look of HDR. It's just SDR in a HDR pipeline though. But it can look really good. Works for all non HDR PS4/PS5 games. And it only works with Dynamic Tone Mapping. Doesn't work with HGIG.
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De fato o ElAnalista faz um excelente serviço. Porém vacilou desta vez. Esse update inclui vários time cycles em San Andreas, incluindo de diferentes áreas fora de Los Santos, das quais ele não abordou aqui.
@@Lordicus21 esses vídeos são muito legais, até pra você decidir qual console pegar dependendo do valor, quero um console de nova geração pensando no gta 6 então pra mim tanto faz qual, a dependendo do preço que tiver no futuro posso ter essa comparação nos jogos pra ver se vale a pena pagar mais ou não pagar mais se a diferença não for grande na qualidade do jogo, ou até por exemplo o gta trilogy, esses tipos de vídeo ajuda a ver se agora vale a pena pegar eles ou não
I hope the modern trend of neutral, ungraded and unfiltered lighting can finally go die. Games used to look unique with its own cinematic look. Bring that back.
The old lighting looks washed out, sterile and anaemic. The new tones are deeper, richer, warmer and far more authentic. Signs and posters are much clearer. Beats me how Grove Street Games didn’t understand that things far in the distance are not as sharp as those in the foreground. Basic stuff.
it's funny because from what i remember the original PC version of these games always had more or less a lighting similar to the old one in the DE version, but people still prefer the classic lighting that are basically just the ones from the PS2 versions, i guess way more people played these games in the PS2 than on a PC lol
Genial al fin lo hicieron como la version original de PS2 donde todo es más calido y con vida, no tan insípido y aburrida como la version de PC y xbox Ésta es la esencia de GTA!! ahora si señores volvio a ser la obra maestra de Rockstar, me sacó el sombrero y felicito a los involucrados en éste grandioso parche.🙌🏻🥂🗿👍🏻Y Gracias Rockstar por al fin escuchar a tús fans❤🤝🏻👏🏻🫶🏻.
The lighting for the trilogy never bothered me. But I do like what they did, being able to switch classic lighting on and off. I was there when all the originals came out.
Excellent improvement. The only aspect I must point out is that sometimes it looks too flat. But, it's a good fix in a very classic style.12:27 I hope they adjust some ambient atmospheres to make it more subtle.
@@Xiter2025 I know and, I like it. However, I wish the visual stylization was a bit more subtle. Since, as I said, it does look a bit flat at times. But I really like the new approach appealing to the classic look.
I just played the new update I got say: it's better but still bad! The distant fog is overly saturated green, the shadows looks weird as hell in classic lighting. Conclusion? If you wanna play the True definitive edition of GTA SA crack this on your PC with vanilla friendly mods like Rosa textures and sky gfx
Lo único que me molesta es que hayan decidido eliminar por completo las nubes volumetricas. No era un super añadido, pero estaba bueno y le daba un toque
Seguramente interferian en algo a la hora usar esos modos de iluminación. Dónde más se notan la falta de las nubes es en san Andreas, en el 3 y VC si aparecen.
Si tienes razón pero yo siento que también se pasaron con algunas cosas, en algunos lugares no se ven las sombras de las palmeras ahora, y el cielo con las nubes con el atardecer se veía mejor
The one that some of the most radical fanbase members were always trying to remove for "cleaner and realistic" looks, so they started whining and crying that filters aren't there where remaster was released and asking to bring it back 🤣
It’s definitely better, but it doesn’t improve ugly AI made plastic models, thousands of bugs that didn’t exist in original games and more and more and more.
They did not use "AI" on the models, that technology wasnt even available back then. 2021 is when AI still made weird stuff that could barely be identified and there was texture upscaling. There was no AI generated 3D modeling in 2021. Please get educated.
@@killcount6534 Look at Mr I Know Better. They did used AI. Quite from The Gamer "To make the new assets, Rockstar used machine learning to upscale certain textures, but also reworked some by hand. " You can even see when they used it. Like, for example, inscriptions on stores textures, writing on the walls, cars, billboards. Instead of "meat" there will be "meet" and etc. There are tons of that in the this remaster. It can't be human being that writes that badly and buggy and even with poorly english. They just used AI and didn't have time to fix all poorly generated things. Devs used machine learning and AI upscaling for new textures. AI didn't appear in 2022-2024, if you didn't know. And yeah, textures, inscriptions and a lot of things in the game looks so bad and AI upscalng is exactly the reason why it looked that way. Glitchy inscriptions, bad texturing, animation bugs.
If anything this proves the importance of color grading which more than the lighting engine itself is what is making the HUGE difference here , GTA SA and GTA VC had a very specific palette and without it the games had lost a huge part of their charm glad to see they fixed it ! PS Also adding back in the distance fog to make the maps look much bigger than they actually are !
Que irónico que adquiri ayer la trilogía con el desánimo y sabiendo de que las versiones de consola no tenían esta iluminación, solo las versiones de móvil. Hoy al despertar pongo nuevamente el GTA 3 y WOW. Vaya sorpresa que me llevé. Años sin actualizar esta trilogía. Gracias ROCKSTAR
Bueno.en mi opinión es una💩 actualización literalmente es lo mismo del ps2 pero mal hecho mejor me voy jugar al original q esto la verdad.gracias este video me entere así que lo deje como tal jaja
That's the greatest L maybe, I loved OG VC's Radio, it got me into all the 80's music that Even My Mom ans other Uncles of mine recognize, we're latinos Even so that's just how far they gotten!
para mi el único que sale ganando es Vice City. Los otros dos entiendo que ahora se parecen mas a los filtros que tenían los originales, pero la verdad que empeoran bastante, casi parece que no estuvieran remasterizados
To also add, on pc the performance has drastically improved. Mine would stutter insanely.. seen the hype and a few of these videos, so I downloaded them again. Everything is default (max) and it runs very very very very well in comparison to the initial release and "fixes" over the 3 years.
What the hell is this crap 😂? 3 years after it released, they suddenly decided to give the games a yellow color tone and bring back the fog from the PS2 games? The games barely even look remastered now, what a weird studio lmao 😂.
Lighting doesnt equate to graphics. For one its simply an option, and secondly this is the way the games were intended to look. Each game's lighting design had it's own identity and added to their respective atmosphere and time period.
Imagine being upset that they are improving the game. They improved more than just this also. They've done a lot. It's the L.A. Noire VR devs who have been improving these games. They did the mobile port for these remasters.
It’s as if there was a toggle for all sense of environmental atmosphere, character and identity and they originally turned it off. What a huge difference the new lighting makes.
Crazy a simple lighting fix could drastically change the feel of these games to be more like the classics.
Yeah, IMO GTA 3 looks better with Classic Lighting OFF
It's not just lighting, it's different weather patterns, effects, reflections and so on.
@@junaidunar9148 Also bug fixes that should've been done earlier, but at least were made at last. CJ now doesn't look like a shape-shifter while riding a bike, nor does break his column while crouching.
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i like gta vc, dont know about 3 i kinda feel the same about both. but San Andreas, to be completely honest and not nostalgic, with the New lighting i can barely tell the difference between the classic and the ''remake'' before the lighting looked more realistic tbh and in the fields i kinda liked it more. The fog and view distance is definitely better now tho but i think that could ve been fixed without the new filter. idk not 100% about the new filter
San Andreas with the orange ps2, tint lighting, looks amazing
Tommy can finally move and shoot his guns simultaneously in Vice City, something you couldn't do in the old version
Claude too I just checked
@@THENikoBellic I wonder if this can break the gameplay sequence in any way, like some sort of unintended outcome of glitch/bug with them adding this feature
Pretty sure you could always do this in the Definitive Edition.
@@SuzukiBalls No you couldn't lol trust me 😂 only SA once you reach hitman level
No, only San Andreas @@SuzukiBalls
It's not just the lighting, but also brings back the distance fog. Now the map looks bigger again. 12:24
wasn't it added in one of the previous updates?
@@theShoop they previously added really distant fog as there was literally nothing before that, but it's not like the classic close up fog rendering in the new lighting
nothing can restore the feeling of the old games.. no matter what they improve in the remasters
thats called farclip. fog is a bit much. beyond the farclip ("fog") nothing would be rendered. still not perfect as it makes everyday look like its a foggy november day but eh
I noticed the same thing in GTA 3. I was on the little cliff behind Salvatore's Gentlemen's Club on the first island, and with classic lighting on, the ocean has a nice fog in the mornings. With classic lighting off, you instead just see the whole ocean. It still looks nice imo, but the foggy ocean and cloudy skies looked really good. I'm sure there's other areas where classic lighting adds fog like that, but I'm not sure where else. I did notice that it makes nights darker, and it looks so good in Vice City. The clouds look so much better than the original imo. It also helps in GTA 3 because darker nights definitely fit the vibe of Liberty City better.
VC & SA is looking great now, but GTA 3 is completely missing the "blue filter" the PS2 version had, it was giving a really dark atmosphere to the game.
Also missing the 20 newspapers all over the ground
That filter was good for ps2 but with the new graphic..I don't know🤔
@@dondoe1328zombie Elvis found
Yeah, it’s kinda shows up sometimes in certain times of day but it definitely should be way more prominent. The other two are baked in the original PS2 lighting
@@dondoe1328 I came to see or write this. I wouldn't consider the game finished without them
Classic lighting looks amazing on vice cit
San Andreas too.
GTA SA classic lightning look like PS2 but better graphics and the classic lightning fixed the fog is back now the old lighting is trash the render distance is set to max
Finally it stoped looking like Fortnite
@@borsukk looks like you're a bad programmer and engineer
@@borsukkyou must be terrible at your job 😅
@@borsukk literally no, if the game came out like this back in 2021 nobody would have complained
@@borsukk you do know GTA was a cartoony game right? The classic lighting looks light-years better to the slop we had before
Yeah, classic lighting adds things back in, like the fog at 12:27 . I noticed it does the same thing in GTA 3. I went behind Salvatore's Gentlemen's Club during the morning (on the cliff near Portland beach), and it adds a nice fog over the ocean (I think it added more clouds to the sky too). With classic lighting off, you instead just saw the whole ocean. And while it still looked nice, the fog just better helps to build the atmosphere of Liberty City.
9:30 😅
N64 is back
Turok Dinosaur Hunter back in action 🔥
Lmao 💀
Nga 47 is back
AEZAKMI ez fix
If the game came out like this in 2021, nobody would have complained
Finally I can enjoy the gta definitive edition
It was okay after a couple of patches a year ago, it's just haters and lemmings who didn't even bothered themselves to check out the game after updates, repeating the same thing they heard from hyping youtubers and streamers on release
@@J0rdan912 I dunno dude. With respect to your opinion. I would partially agree. III and VC, sure. But SA now has traffic. It was barren before. Now with the lighting, collision fixes, peds and cars everywhere, it feels alive.
@@AICThemBones I think definitive edition of SA was based on original PS2 version, it had way less peds, traffic and slightly different physics, including weird traffic spawning and behavior due to console limitations and workarounds. PC version was borderline broken and even worse with all those changes to traffic and physics, especially on framerate higher than 30. I personally didn't played that much of SA in definitive trilogy, but glad to hear if they actually made things work properly now
@@J0rdan912no it wasnt. u talking out of ur butt. they ported the MOBILE versions and let UE ai upscale everything. they put old engine buggy code in a new engine. the perfect recipe for disaster. DE is trash, at ITS CORE
I still miss a few details like moving objects, they fix the UFO bar but some elements are static unlike the original versions
Now the trilogy is finally worth playing
Due to licensing issues, still lots of music is missing or replaced. so staying with the inital releases is still the way to go for me.
@@Pat86 I agree, I cannot play GTA without radio stations and there's a lot of songs that I loved were removed
@@Pat86 They can still be modded back in, I did this myself with the DE.
@@Pat86 just cause of music?
@@Pat86
This happened on mobile but nobody cares
It has improved a lot. We can't forget what they did with the release of this trilogy so this is not about thanking Rockstar for something that should have been like this at launch, but if they also kept some of the fixes that came with the mobile version release, it finally looks like a very good way of playing this games (at least for me). But 3 years late...
Liked Vice City and SA. But GTA 3 is pretty different now
Sad thing is that this update is only for the new gen consoles, which sucks because the last gen systems and switch needed the update the most.
Edit: they just released the update on old gens. Dunno why they couldn't just wait n release it on all consoles at the same time but atleast it's here
Wow that really sux for switch >.>
Switch can run No Man's Sky, Astral Chain, AC Black Flag, Dragon's Dogma, RDR and more. There is no excuse for the developers.
I'm just about to check on my switch when you say that maybe just forget about it
Gonna try with pc version later
Edit:Well looks like switch receive the update..a bit late
@@amy-295 It updated on PC
@@srcapibara6932 hogwarts legagcy / Borderlands 1 / 2 / 3/ The Witcher 3 / Dying Light !
Switch power 😂 👌🏻
I Expect to see a version like this of GTA Liberty City Stories & Vice City Stories
A man can only dream..
I'd feel more comfortable with it if that weren't done by Grove Street Games
And especially because they only released on PS2 and PSP, it would be nice to see them on other consoles and PC
I thought the same, but they have even more licensing issues with VCS, for example because of the Phil Collins songs and cameo. Would cost them too much probably.
But They mobile game….
Funny how the "New Lighting" is in reality the old lighting
Took them 3 years
Finally i can enjoy the game now
Better late than never tbhh
@@Sgt-Daniel-Recker tbf
Wow, thanks for sharing this comparison! I’m so glad they finally fixed the lighting. The remastered graphics with too-clean lighting really looked cold and sterile. These games were literally designed with that old classic lighting back in the day, so having this fixed now just gels everything together! Finally!
Looks good but I'd tone down the saturation by around 20-30%. Sky looks weird sometimes with that aggressive blue
That’s how the original game looked like
@@deavinarulappu1099with new graphics it looks weird, fine for an old game but not for a “new” game
@@deavinarulappu1099hell no it did not.
@@madhunter6420 just the play the original SA and vice city on ps2
I think this update is a step in the right direction for this game, but I have some issues with it:
-why disable the volumetric lights from streetlamps and from the cars, it was a nicely added effect
-the fog effect seems kinda weirdly implemented bc it completely occludes the clouds
-also the new lightning effect fucks up the volumetric clouds
Yeah I don't really get it it's always one step forward and two steps back
@@RCmies fr, i miss how the volumetric lighting looked man, now it looks so bland
The new lighting looks like a PS2 game
yeah, much better than the generic unreal game look
@@Lordicus21
You need glasses
@@Kyepo
Source?
Yeah, like it's supposed to be
Yep cheers for that Mark, can tell you weren’t around then 😂😂😂
Im not sure if i prefer the new lighting or the old lighting. Like sometimes i feel like the new one's better and sometimes i feel like the new one's better. The skyboxes are definitely better in the new patch, but i still feel like there's a lot of room for improvements..
Same for me
The old lightning looks more realistic and the new lightning looks more nostalgic, is a matter of choice. The most important thing is that the fixed some of the bugs 👍
Realistic lighting don't fit when the models, style and animations are not realistic.
Vice City looks good either way with or without the classic light
Took 3 years for them to leave the alpha version and now on beta they just need to fix some bugs, glitches, textures redone without AI upscalling and some vehicle behavior like with the helicopters from GTA SA. They are very close to have an improved version compared to the original ones modded.
Will only be totally Definitive if they hire Silent to include fixes from Silent Patch, or just steal the mod to include in the final game
That's how a lot of us felt when Square decided to destroy the Orange lighting from Deus Ex: Human Revolution. It went from an unique look to Grey, Bland and Flat. And all because some threw a temper tantrum based on their lack of any artistic sensibilities.
Deus Ex = PISS FILTER!!!
GTA: San Andreas = CLASSIC!!!
Sheesh...
This is the first time I've seen a yellow filter from Mexico being applauded.
Yeah... and while the new lighting does look better most of the time, it doesn't look better ALL the time. Real life isn't 24/7 foggy.
@@AquDrIFTIts a game and not real life. So it is art and this a artstyle that matches the map style cause of its size, since it is still a remaster of an 20 year old game and not a remake with more landscape. But they could do it better if they use a complete no render distance with a little fog on the farest point which includes Shadowy outlines of the objects within. Gta 5 on ps3 had sth like that and it looked good
I always applaud it when it fits the game. There was no reason to remove it in GTA in the first place. "Neutral" lighting is an ugly modern trend that started with Minecraft and Fortnite
Nostalgia can do interesting things to peoples’ logical thinking…
The fog makes the world look much bigger. OG Defective Edition looked like GTA: Flat Earth.
Still a lot to do on this. But it's a really good patch!
Each city in San Andreas is supposed to have a different shader (LS being orange, SF being blue and LV being yellow). Did they actually do that with the update or does every city share the same orange shader?
As far as I know, they've made an exclusive shader for each city, to accurately match the PS2 version.
I prefer the old lighting for GTA 3, but classic lighting for VC and SA is a massive improvement.
9:32 It was to give it fog so that it would give a slight touch of distance to the town, not turn it into Silent Hills.😅
When you’re in a big city like Los Angeles, it’s gonna tend to look like that from pollution, weather, etc all mixed with each other.
Всего лишь 3 года понадобилось такой маленькой компании, чтобы добавить правильное освещение, которое должно было быть изначально
Там еще много чего доделать бы
Grove street games stopped working on this game long ago. They’re a deceased company now
LOL before people were complaining about how the new lighting isn't like the original now they are complaining about how it's identical to the original
You just can't please some people.
People are stupid sometimes.
Don't worry, the vast majority of us love the new lighting and how PS2-like it is.
Only a vocal minority didn't like the change.
Notice how the Grove street games branding is removed from all 3 games, I wonder if they are suing them or something.
No Grove street games is no more they liquidated
The definitive edition was their downfall.
@@Michael_Afton40What does that mean
@@Ben-io2vothey iced them
😂
I read some comments the other day when the update came out saying the same thing, how Grove Street games wasn't involved with Rockstar anymore. When you look it up, some articles pop up from as back as December 2022 with reports of the same thing. On one hand, it's easy to blame them for how bad the definitive edition launched, but on the other hand, Rockstar themselves cheapened out and knowingly hired mobile only developers. These same developers did the San Andreas 2014 remaster for Xbox 360. I thought it was okay back then when I played it, but playing it again in 2024, it felt so weird. It felt as if I was just screen casting the game from my phone to the TV because it was basically just the mobile version ported over. And like I'm really glad that Rockstar updated the definitive edition on console/pc to be more in line with the Netflix version, but they knew what quality to expect from Grove Street games after the San Andreas remaster, but they hired them back anyways.
Still waiting for this update on PS4 🙏🏻 (it is not available yet)
it’s not going to be available, confirmed on the patch notes
It's gonna be only on next gen consoles.
@@turkeyman9914 you have the link. I was reading the patch notes, but it doesn't says anything like that.
@@otherprisma7354 you have any link or the source that says that?
It'd better be
Looks even better with the PS5's Auto Tone Mapping feature on combined with Classic Lighting. If you want to have this PS5 feature on. Turn on your TV's dynamic Tone Mapping setting, have HDR always on in the PS5 settings on, have your TV's brightness and contrast at 100, adjust HDR settings in the PS5's options. Make it so the sun clips into the background on the first and second page, make the last page completely black. And you should now have the look of HDR. It's just SDR in a HDR pipeline though. But it can look really good. Works for all non HDR PS4/PS5 games. And it only works with Dynamic Tone Mapping. Doesn't work with HGIG.
so much better. new lighting looks great
Seu trabalho é incrível, vídeo como esses são essenciais para nós principalmente nós consumidores sem muita condições financeiras e que precisam saber se vale a pena gastar em algo, continue com este trabalho👏
De fato o ElAnalista faz um excelente serviço. Porém vacilou desta vez. Esse update inclui vários time cycles em San Andreas, incluindo de diferentes áreas fora de Los Santos, das quais ele não abordou aqui.
@@Lordicus21 esses vídeos são muito legais, até pra você decidir qual console pegar dependendo do valor, quero um console de nova geração pensando no gta 6 então pra mim tanto faz qual, a dependendo do preço que tiver no futuro posso ter essa comparação nos jogos pra ver se vale a pena pagar mais ou não pagar mais se a diferença não for grande na qualidade do jogo, ou até por exemplo o gta trilogy, esses tipos de vídeo ajuda a ver se agora vale a pena pegar eles ou não
that sucks that when mobile version can handle classic lighting but old gen consoles can’t
Mobile CPU's are far more capable than old gen consoles
@ that’s doesn’t justify tho when old gens can run rdr2
Old gen consoles are not powerful like phones are now. An Xbox one is no where near the power of an iPhone 15 pro max
@@TheGlowingOneedoes that mean you could run rdr2 on it
@@Ben-io2voTechnically, yes.
I hope the modern trend of neutral, ungraded and unfiltered lighting can finally go die. Games used to look unique with its own cinematic look. Bring that back.
The old lighting looks washed out, sterile and anaemic. The new tones are deeper, richer, warmer and far more authentic. Signs and posters are much clearer. Beats me how Grove Street Games didn’t understand that things far in the distance are not as sharp as those in the foreground. Basic stuff.
I kinda like the old version for more vivid an natural colors, but updated versions are much more faithful to OG games
Lots of gen alphas in this comment section crying over objectively better lighting faithful to the original 😂
It's illegal to play GTA until your 18, folks
-me who grew up playing gta1-4
@@ross3695_basedhax true, these kids need to go back to their GTA V lobbies 😂 let the OG GTA fans rejoice in peace
@@THENikoBellicyea lowkey ngl
@@thingonathinginathingi played GTA 2 with age 9 😂
@@THENikoBellicOG's play it on PC with Silent Patch mods. Definitive Edition is awful
Outstanding video. Straight to the point. Bravo 👏
it's funny because from what i remember the original PC version of these games always had more or less a lighting similar to the old one in the DE version, but people still prefer the classic lighting that are basically just the ones from the PS2 versions, i guess way more people played these games in the PS2 than on a PC lol
PC version was horrible and a massive downgrade from PS2
@@breakingglass7496mods
Genial al fin lo hicieron como la version original de PS2 donde todo es más calido y con vida, no tan insípido y aburrida como la version de PC y xbox
Ésta es la esencia de GTA!! ahora si señores volvio a ser la obra maestra de Rockstar, me sacó el sombrero y felicito a los involucrados en éste grandioso parche.🙌🏻🥂🗿👍🏻Y Gracias Rockstar por al fin escuchar a tús fans❤🤝🏻👏🏻🫶🏻.
The new lighting looks amazing but I must admit that VC at night looks better with the old lighting
I agree especially at Vice Beach
Good that you can always turn it on an off whenever you want
@@LNCRFT yeah, it's cool that they let us choose
The lighting for the trilogy never bothered me. But I do like what they did, being able to switch classic lighting on and off. I was there when all the originals came out.
You can switch it at will?
yeah you can switch the setting the lighting
Rockstar stole my heart yet again
The indoor lighting seems barely unchanged. Hopefully, they can touch that up as well, but overall, this is a welcome change
So much better and also faithful to the original ❤🎉
Adds more clouds and smog to hide that draw distance its a great update
A esperar otro año más para que arregle la física que cae el poste y el semáforo 😢
9:32 in the meantime CJ is getting beaten by the cop. 😂🤣
The game is constantly on sale but of course it isn't now 😭
I still like the old lighting it looks more realistic, when have you gone outside and everything looks orange
When the sun is setting lol
@jasonashley9853 I live in the Caribbean and I can assure you it doesn't look like that
@@gringobronx7670 never seen an orange sky before??
@jasonashley9853 yes I have but it's brief not exaggerated like in the game nobody ever walks around seeing orange all day
@gringobronx7670 it is a video game though. Realism doesn't inherently make a game good or fun.
Much closer to the originals now🙏
Edit: 9:30 that officer smacking CJ 😂😂😂
Accurate black guy
@@ivanexell-uz4mv they're racist 😂🤣
biblically accurate gta sa
Excellent improvement. The only aspect I must point out is that sometimes it looks too flat. But, it's a good fix in a very classic style.12:27 I hope they adjust some ambient atmospheres to make it more subtle.
Hell no. 12:27 is faithful to the original one
@@Xiter2025 I know and, I like it. However, I wish the visual stylization was a bit more subtle. Since, as I said, it does look a bit flat at times. But I really like the new approach appealing to the classic look.
I just played the new update I got say: it's better but still bad! The distant fog is overly saturated green, the shadows looks weird as hell in classic lighting.
Conclusion? If you wanna play the True definitive edition of GTA SA crack this on your PC with vanilla friendly mods like Rosa textures and sky gfx
Se ve que es su momento en 2002 nunca jugaste GTA sana Andreas, vice city y GTA 3 por eso hablas por hablar 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This making me wana go ahead n get the updated versions now fe😌
Lo único que me molesta es que hayan decidido eliminar por completo las nubes volumetricas. No era un super añadido, pero estaba bueno y le daba un toque
Seguramente interferian en algo a la hora usar esos modos de iluminación. Dónde más se notan la falta de las nubes es en san Andreas, en el 3 y VC si aparecen.
Si tienes razón pero yo siento que también se pasaron con algunas cosas, en algunos lugares no se ven las sombras de las palmeras ahora, y el cielo con las nubes con el atardecer se veía mejor
They brought back the classic filter i see!
The one that some of the most radical fanbase members were always trying to remove for "cleaner and realistic" looks, so they started whining and crying that filters aren't there where remaster was released and asking to bring it back 🤣
It is million times better now
Not because now they over-saturate the colors and removed the clouds. They add one thing and remove others ahhh Grove Street Games 😂😂😂😂
@@Ghost-07this isn't GSG smart one 😂
This guy musics always a pleasure to listen to.
La iluminacion en Vice City se me hace raro esa iluminacion amarillo/naranja.
Very nice👌👍and now i have a good reason for buying gta trilogy definitive edition🙏
Finally. I’m getting closer to buying this now. I want to see them remove targeting outlines.
Их несколько лет назад убрали
@ Хорошо знать это, теперь я поймаю эту рыбу.
They were made optional a few years ago but note that they're still enabled by default.
u can disable them in settings my man
Way more dramatic, I love it! A little too orange sometimes but that's ok I guess .. it took 2 years tho 😢
It’s definitely better, but it doesn’t improve ugly AI made plastic models, thousands of bugs that didn’t exist in original games and more and more and more.
They did not use "AI" on the models, that technology wasnt even available back then. 2021 is when AI still made weird stuff that could barely be identified and there was texture upscaling. There was no AI generated 3D modeling in 2021. Please get educated.
@@killcount6534 Look at Mr I Know Better.
They did used AI. Quite from The Gamer "To make the new assets, Rockstar used machine learning to upscale certain textures, but also reworked some by hand. "
You can even see when they used it. Like, for example, inscriptions on stores textures, writing on the walls, cars, billboards. Instead of "meat" there will be "meet" and etc. There are tons of that in the this remaster. It can't be human being that writes that badly and buggy and even with poorly english. They just used AI and didn't have time to fix all poorly generated things.
Devs used machine learning and AI upscaling for new textures. AI didn't appear in 2022-2024, if you didn't know. And yeah, textures, inscriptions and a lot of things in the game looks so bad and AI upscalng is exactly the reason why it looked that way. Glitchy inscriptions, bad texturing, animation bugs.
@ that’s what i said though, they used AI for the textures, not the models
If anything this proves the importance of color grading which more than the lighting engine itself is what is making the HUGE difference here , GTA SA and GTA VC had a very specific palette and without it the games had lost a huge part of their charm glad to see they fixed it ! PS Also adding back in the distance fog to make the maps look much bigger than they actually are !
Now all they have to do to call this "definitive" is bring back all the missing songs.
Not gonna happen until VI comes out
@anshraina73 It feels more like a deliberate decision than financial, since Rockstar (Take-Two) is a billion Dollar company.
And fix all the remaining bugs. The lighting is the tip of the iceberg. It's a superficial fix that a lot of people are creaming their pants over.
the filter is better! brings more ambiance
yes the epic lighting/atmosphere of the ps2 verisons that went so well with the setting/eras the games were set in are finally reinstated
i love how they started to make it like og gta better late than nothing
Now this is GTA
Oh yeah, now we're talking! The unique tone each city has really makes a difference.
Bro what? 9:30 💀
The new lighting looks much better! It really captures the atmosphere of the OG games
Que irónico que adquiri ayer la trilogía con el desánimo y sabiendo de que las versiones de consola no tenían esta iluminación, solo las versiones de móvil. Hoy al despertar pongo nuevamente el GTA 3 y WOW. Vaya sorpresa que me llevé. Años sin actualizar esta trilogía. Gracias ROCKSTAR
Bueno.en mi opinión es una💩 actualización literalmente es lo mismo del ps2 pero mal hecho mejor me voy jugar al original q esto la verdad.gracias este video me entere así que lo deje como tal jaja
With ton of issues still there, lightning has so much impact, wow.
I can finally buy the trilogy? Lol
Oh wait…. some songs were removed due to copyrights. Nope, gonna stick to my PS2 discs…
Wait what? Songs removed? Wow... clearly garbage.
@ yeah, that sucks.
That's the greatest L maybe, I loved OG VC's Radio, it got me into all the 80's music that Even My Mom ans other Uncles of mine recognize, we're latinos Even so that's just how far they gotten!
What about mods?
@@xTheQuestxThey removed the same songs that they removed in the mobile ports. Running in The Night was only on PS2.
that saints row 2 reshade on VC looks ok
Espero que haya una opción para desactivar la nueva iluminación
Incredible how new lightning makes a new game
When did this update come out?
today
Today.
The day I gave your mom a nice thrust.
I think today or yesterday
November the 12th, 2024
Do you think they will patch these games again?
Gta sa
Old lighting: graphic gta sa pc
New lighting: graphic gta sa ps 2
Classic lighting is the best, it feels more alive and atmospheric
@@doblehboy good, ps2 had the better atmosphere thanks to lighting.
Bloomy lights, i like it ! Maybe i will buy it now if they fix the gta 3 also !
Looks incredible
Yeah, and there's a lot more time cycles on San Andreas, every day, night and location are different
after watching this vc looks way better time stamp: 1.07 show even the trees pop look at the diif love it
para mi el único que sale ganando es Vice City. Los otros dos entiendo que ahora se parecen mas a los filtros que tenían los originales, pero la verdad que empeoran bastante, casi parece que no estuvieran remasterizados
Pero la nueva iluminacion no sustituye la anterior. Se puede elegir cual usar.
Un filtro de color simplemente xd
@@VICMARIOS lo se
To also add, on pc the performance has drastically improved. Mine would stutter insanely.. seen the hype and a few of these videos, so I downloaded them again. Everything is default (max) and it runs very very very very well in comparison to the initial release and "fixes" over the 3 years.
This is like beta vs 1.0 😂
Crazy how a simple upgrade stands out more than what the PS5 Pro offers.
I just tried San Andreas!! It looks phenomenal, worth buying finally lol
so the "good art direction DLC" finally dropped
El juego así tuvo que salir pero los malditos de T2 apuran a los de rockstar.
Imo I actually prefer the old lighting over this new one.
What the hell is this crap 😂? 3 years after it released, they suddenly decided to give the games a yellow color tone and bring back the fog from the PS2 games? The games barely even look remastered now, what a weird studio lmao 😂.
Lighting doesnt equate to graphics. For one its simply an option, and secondly this is the way the games were intended to look. Each game's lighting design had it's own identity and added to their respective atmosphere and time period.
@thelightahead4810
Source?
You're not smart
@@SALTYTOAD000you're not smart lol 😂 play the fucking game before saying source 😂
Imagine being upset that they are improving the game. They improved more than just this also. They've done a lot. It's the L.A. Noire VR devs who have been improving these games. They did the mobile port for these remasters.
It’s as if there was a toggle for all sense of environmental atmosphere, character and identity and they originally turned it off. What a huge difference the new lighting makes.
I always criticized that filter even though I never played on PS2 but now it makes a big difference that it is worth playing GTA SA