AA Doesn't Work. Why The 12 Steps Are Actually Bad For You And Your Recovery.
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Results matter and the fact is most fail in AA and here's why this program is toxic for you.
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It works for some people. They should stick to it. I personally don’t like to make sobriety a major part of my identity. I used to drink, now I don’t. I don’t see a point of dwelling on the past.
Fuck no. Definitely self control and partially truths here and there. Never keep going if triggered. ALL THE TIME. No-No
The cult members always attack when you offer people another way to stop drinking. Idk why it infuriates them so much that people actually can solve their issue through another way
LOL! As a recovering addict with 35 years clean I would beg to differ. I am glad you found a way to stay clean.
My wife and I never went to AA either. Sitting in a room with other people, acknowledging that we're hopeless and can't get sober without a higher power, talking about something we can never have again, experiencing shame for actions we did on a highly addictive drug. WE got sober ourselves. It wasn't a higher power, it was US. We're 1 year 9 months sober today.
Hey congratulations. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Look for The Anti AA Channel coming out in a year and a half. Showing people a better way to regain your life---charles
Hats off to you
Well I’m sober through CA, what works for some doesn’t work for others your resentment for AA is deep you should focus on your own recovery and leave others to there’s. Many things you mentioned in this video about what you’ve heard I’ve never heard in meetings.
Also the big book tell you, that you recover
After my 48 year marriage fell apart I ended up dating a "recovered alcoholic" and learned just how dependent she was on her "group". She'd been sober for 26yrs even though in fact, she'd been sober for 40 but to a alcoholic, if they take one drink and "don't get the benefit of the buzz" they've fallen off the wagon and start the clock over. The point is, they've traded one dependency on another-the group! They even have conventions where they have break out sessions and exchange stories about how lousy their lives were when they were drinking. I gave up chronic pot smoking well over 40 years ago and asked her why alcoholics continue to label themselves as such and never let it go when I could label myself as a pothead but refuse to. Anyway, at the end of the day, even though I believe and feel that we deeply loved one another, she just couldn't face life with a "normy" (the label alcoholics give to those of us who grew up in a solid, loving home without alcoholics) and ended up leaving. Lesson learned, I have been super cautious about building a relationship with anyone who's baggage weighs more than they do.
More than anything I pretty much won't try to respond much to the ones in the comments who tell me "I'm 10 years and beyond sober, thanks to AA." My question is, why would someone need to go to AA after their neurochemistry has readjusted? Why do they feel the need to be in the rooms night after night with that much time sober? I quit, the withdrawal passed, the protracted withdrawal passed two years later. Periodically I get a twinge craving--I ignore it and it goes away now within minutes. I'm too busy living my sober life to spend time talking about my former life. Cheers, DCF
@@charleshurstreinvention3959 I've been sober 29 years through the help of AA. At this point, I don't need AA to stay sober but I can help others who are confused and just starting out. The most important part of AA to me is the fellowship. I have friends there; the coffee is hot, and the donuts are low calorie (that part's a lie 😀). I'm also a licensed counselor. I went back to school after being sober 8 years and I work part time in the field now since I'm old and retired. One thing that is important, AA is NOT the only solution. There are many alternatives out there that can help, particularly for someone who is just getting sober. AA isn't my life, but it helped me get my life back. Most of my friends in AA think the same way. Whatever works for you is what you should be doing
I figured almost every comment would be what I read. Hmm..
n the Big Book, "recovered" is prioritized, with no room for relapse; it's not part of the program's philosophy. Discussions center on solutions, not problems
What are you talking about . . . all you hear is relapse is part of recovery from AA components.
@@charleshurstreinvention3959 "relapse is part of recovery" isn't meant to be taken literally. It simply means it is a risk if you don't pay attention. I've had patients in treatment with more than 20 years sober because they got complacent and "cured" themselves
I’ll say it all to save you guys some time.
“You’re just a dry drunk, not recovered.”
“You’re so close to drinking, you just don’t know it.”
“The program didn’t fail you, you failed the program.”
“You’re not a real alcoholic.”
“See ya when you’re ready to really recover.”
There…I said all the criticism.
Good to hear the most successful recovery program in history doesn’t work now. Thank goodness you found all the answers. Thank you Charlie for saving us all
So, AA's been working splendidly for me, coming up on 18 years sober and loving it. If you have an alternative or better method, I say BLESS IT, but you might shift your focus away from just pissing on AA to simply offering your alterative "better" method and ATTRACTING addicts/alcoholics rather than just venting some sort of resentment about AA. Good Luck!
Maybe your not alcoholic
I see alcohol was not your lord & savior. only a real alcoholic is their lord & savior: step one powerless ? over the lord & savior of your choice. Pick any alcoholic drink in store. What else would you be powerless over🤔
Now for the state law separation of state & religion that’s another topic.
The reason for the 5-10% Success rate is the actual structure of AA. It's not based in reality. It's Christianity. You would be better off going to church. Christianity does the same thing. The church blames the person if things are not working for them. You're not pretending hard enough.
Absolute nonsense! The people with the biggest resentments towards AA, have the least amount of actual experience.
U must get a kick back from these drunk places. Like Passages. They are for the extremely wealthy drunks that have daddy's money. It's not called AA but ur there for the same reason, but at least u get nice sunsets for the money.
AA needs constructive criticism and needs to make many changes to best help folks struggling with alcohol dependence. However, this snarky, blanket condemnation is not an insightful analysis of what is wrong and what is right with 12 Step groups.
Yeah, these people don't go to the gym to work out. They smoke cigarettes and talk a lot of smack.
"Two meetings" to "Find out what it was all about"??? THAT'S some world class arrogance, and delusion to conclude that you know "what it's all about". I suppose two flying lessons makes you a pilot. I wouldn't take this guy's advice about crossing the street!
But I have 15 years sober of experience vs AA's dismal success rates----so there's that.
I would love to talk to you. You’re way off base. I don’t think it’s fair for you to bad mouth AA. It has helped way more people that you have. Promote your way sure. But half way into your video you have done nothing but bad mouth AA.
100's of 1000's of people world wide have 1000's of years of sobriety as a result of AA. That is a fact. So Charlie saying it doesn't work is only an opionion and not a fact. You are a dangrous man spreading ill informed view that may stop people teying a proven method of recovery.
Charlie why not focus on telling people what has worked for you rather than slated something yoi are ill equiped to talk about. By slating Aa which is peoven to work for some you may put off someone from going who it was the ideal mode of recovery for.
As I stated mot omly are tou dangerous but your views could actually be killing people. Please consider this.
First, outside of a biased study from Stanford, all other studies not only say AA fails most but hugely so. Second, it traps the minority who stay sober in the rooms with unhealthy lifestyle. Period. If you think hanging out in the rooms 5-6 nights a week ten years sober is healthy you are high on a different psyche drug--AA cult mantras. It's going to get more dangerous Steven---this channel will end in a month. But my next one will focus only on AA and I hope to pull as many of your people out as I can so they can have a holistic recovery and regain their person. Cheers, Charles----16 years sober.
Whatever gets you out of the addiction and on the road to recovery works. No need to pan the program that didn't work for you.