Will a small tarp be enough?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Several years ago, before a long backpacking trip, I thought about whether I could expect a small tarp would be enough to keep me dry. I drew stretches and did some back of the envelope calculations that I've turned into slide here. What I found surprised me.
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"all models are wrong" Love it. You must be an engineer too.
I'm not an engineer, I work with them and other technically minded folks.
I've used small tarps and big tarps living on the West coast of Canada. In winter rains, I never got wet, but my hammock got damp. So this tracks well, cool to see some math on this. These days, I just use my big winter tarp year round. The extra weight is negligible for me, particularly in inclement weather, plus it gives me and the folks I camp with a spot to hang out in the rain because all my camping buddies are tenters and ain't no way I'm crawling in a little lightweight tent with a bunch of stinky hikers if I can sit in the fresh air.
Good to know! Thanks for watching.
Good analysis. In 2009 when I started with a Hennessy hammock with the small asym tarp, it always amazed me that I still never got wet. -Knotty
Excellent. I've been wondering about an asym tarp.
Very informative. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! 😁
Thanks for watching!
Definitely use an underquilt protector.
Right on. My HQ UQP packs up small, weights nada, and definitely is a great thing to have with you.
Well done! I am in the market for a new tarp. This gave me good insight on it. New follower here. Crow✌️
Thanks!
That's a lot of maths there. Nice to see the calcs though.
As JW said below though, whichever tarp configuration you go for, I go with an underquilt protector every time. Keeps the bottom dry even if you do fall asleep in porch more.
In wetter months, I'll also have the winter topcover on as well, just in case. Better safe than sodden.
Good video.
I have an underquilt protector, but rarely need it. I agree that a top cover for winter is good idea because snow floats around and gets everywhere.
You've never been in the Infantry, have you.
Nope
better off with a bigger tarp made with lighter fabrics. RAB tarps are my go to tarps. I'd go DCF but I can never justify the costs.
I don't do hammock camps as well, tarp an bivi for me.occasional bivi tent.
It's hard to get much lighter than a Minifly with 20D sil-poly. DCF would be about the only thing lighter, but it does't pack down as small and as you say, it is comparatively expensive.
So in layman's terms, if your tarps too short your gonna get your ass wet
Surprisingly, no. Even with a small tarp, pitch low and no problem. I've never gotten wet under a tarp.
To quickly answer the primary question - probably not. Stop playing games and buy a good 1 person tent.
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lots of people find hammocks more comfortable than sleeping on the ground. Pitched correctly even a small tarp will keep one dry.
@@lakeeffected G’day, Lake. I camped in hammocks for years. Small tarps do an abysmal job of sheltering them. In a few or light rain that DROPS STRAIGHT DOWN IN NO WIND (REPEAT: NO WIND) conditions, a small tarp will do an almost OK job. Any wind (REPEAT: ANY WIND) will blow rain in under a small tarp and wet the hammock.
Small tarps are for masochists and newbies. I’ve camped primitive style for nearly 70 years in the U.S, Canada, and Japan. Sierra Nevada, rivers and lakes, canoe, bicycle, and motorcycle. Too much experience to bother with a tarp of less than 10’X10’.
My best to you.
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Sorry to hear that you had that experience. I've camped in hammocks for years now, going through downpours with whipping winds and haven't gotten wet.
Go back to the large tarp.
It's always a matter of the right tool for the right job.
@@lakeeffected That’s why you buy the bigger tool set.
Your math is totally useless😂since the tiny droplets will behave totally different.
Great video though!
Try to calculate the slope that gives maximum coverage for various wind speeds :)
For 0 wind, 0 slope.
For infinite speed, 90 degree slope etc
I think of the math as illustrative. The thing that got me thinking about it was being out in potent storms with the tarp in partial porch mode or with a small trap with the hammock's bottom below the bottom edge of the tarp with out getting wet.
If the math is useless, is there a point in trying to calculate the optimum coverage? I thought about it and decided no, but it could be done.
@@lakeeffected I would be interested in seeing the difference between a square tarp in diamond shape and regular shape.
I suspect that the diamond shape covers the hammock better. Do you have experience with that? Thanks
That's an interesting thought. I haven't compared, but suspect you're correct. Thanks!
Just draw an arc. Better yet, buy a tent.
I suppose I could have figured out an animation to show the calculus of the continuous change, but it didn't seem necessary to show the general point.
@@lakeeffected Well, if you had, your video would have been too short to be an interesting watch.
Huh?
This is the US we don't do meters u must be a engineer
I'm not that smart, so I like everything divisible by 10.
He is American and thinks you have to be an engineer do use metric😂