European Flying... Different & Fun! - Knife As Required Equipment?!
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2023
- Wanna learn about General #Aviation in #Europe ?
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In this episode of Flight Chops, (a #Travel Adventure filmed in “the before times” of 2019), we’re hosted by our friends at Hässlö Flygförening, just outside of Stockholm.
Hässlö Flygförening is located at Stockholm Västerås Airport (ICAO code ESOW) about an hour drive from Stockholm. With more than 600 members they are the largest flying club in northern Europe.
Being so close to Stockholm, while still keeping out of the more congested airspace around the big international airport, HFF is a great place to start your #GeneralAviation flying adventure in #Sweden.
They have access to many different airplanes to rent, together with a group of highly competent instructors ranging from airline captains to aerobatic instructors.
For pilots visiting Sweden, they can assist with anything from information, checkout flights on new types to the paperwork needed to act as PIC on a Swedish registered plane without an EASA license.
Learn more at their site: hasslo.org/in-english/
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Not being able to fly that Saab Safir on this trip, sounds like the perfect excuse to make another trip!
11:39 how could you not know polyoxybenzylmethylenglycolanhydride ?! 😁
Good that you became an expert then in European flying when we crossed 6 countries in one day😜
Love the Safir insights🤘🏼
Haha. No. But yes I learned a lot from you guys and am keen to share! I will reach out you you actually to get some added context for future parts of this series.
Eh Windsor boy! Interesting rudder twist variation for centerline thrust compensation
The Safir is a simply delightful aeroplane to fly ❤. Cheers from 🇮🇹
love the safir
Bakelite was common in the 30s -40s... Telephones, radios. small appliances etc. Very strong and durable. Never heard of a bakelite prop.
Ah yes, those classic big old hard plastic phones with rotary dial.
Very cool seeing my home airport at your channel :) had a great time meeting you in Bunge. Thx for the content!
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Rain and low clouds? Welcome to flying in the northern European countries. LOL
Haha - yuuuup.
A bakelite prop. That would be a spectacular prop strike.
That plane is cool! What a trip. Twisted rudder, plastic prop, carving yourself out of an emergency. HAHA!
Future Flight Chops presenter in the shot :)
Doing a CTR crossing in Rotterdam / EHRD is always nice.
You fly at 1500ft along the city skyline / sky scrapers of Rotterdam and the river Rhine.
( Romeo / Foxtrot / Nieuwe Waterweg to Hotel )
Next you can fly South along the famous Dutch storm surge barriers to Midden-Zeeland / EHMZ.
Sweden is the homeland of the SAAB Safir, but there are a few of them in Norway, too! A wonderful machine to fly; the flight controls are in perfect harmony.
Still a fantastic video without any flying!
We are so blessed with empty real estate in North America. Minutes out of almost any major centre, and you’re not seeing a ton of air traffic outside of actual flight lanes. I drive truck, and heavy urban traffic is challenging, but I can’t even imagine the added challenge of the vertical dimension in the mix. Foreflight seems to be a great idea for any pilot, especially to manage crowded airspace like Europe seems to have.
Great video, can’t wait to see more of Luke’s adventures checking out on the Yellow Birds. I remember in the videos with Hannah when Luke said something like “we all get to do some pretty cool stuff”, which I think is a great way to remind yourself how lucky you are to be flying.
Totally - and yeah - the series following Luke’s check out on the yellow birds is coming!
Martin did learn me how to fly! I got my Commercial license from his school. Could not ask for a better instructor during my days at the flightschool!
Really interesting aircraft, especially the twist built into the rudder.
And good call not to go flying. Better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground.
How the hell did i miss this video?! I *instantly* knew you were at Hässlö when i saw the start of the video, the airport is just a few hundred meters from my apartment, my grandfather served on that base during WW2, and my best friends granddad founded the museum you were in!
Looking forward to the rest of this series! I've flown around Europe and the US, and every country seems to present its own particular experiences. What are the things that surprised you most in this trip? Are there things you like better in Europe vs. North America?
Your attention to detail and the close-up takes you included really gave me a sense of the excellent design of this vintage airplane.
Again, I found the video to be both informative and engaging, and I look forward to checking out more of your content in the near future.
As an American flying GA in Germany it is great to see you flying on this side of the big pond. Lots of pilots use a program called Skydemon for VFR flights.
Irish ATC here, if you file with Skydemon for us, please put plain English details of your route in the remarks. I don’t know if it presents differently for other ANSPs, but if I open a flight plan filed through Skydemon, it’s just a bunch of lat/longs that are a pain to try to decipher.
@@NeilDorgan if you raise this to the skydemon team they will look at the format coding
Nice! When will you visit the Netherlands? Come over and fly with me/us 😀
Yes I’d love to. It would have been one of our 2020 stops…
@@FlightChops You're more than welcome to stay over at our place and to fly some fun LSA's at EHDR (Drachten Airport) 😉
After flying the pa-28 III for over 200 hours I would love to do formation flight
Super interesting - often wonder about Euro flying factors. That plane for a '50s seems to have a lot of great features - and yellow too!! Look fwd to further Euro location videos. :)
After flying for 6 years at LFLP in the "intimidating airspace", I promise you you get used to it quite quickly. It's just matter of map reading.
Can you share some specific insights of what you found challenging to overcome?
@@FlightChops Well if I'm honest when I got there I was already a professional pilot with some experience so it wasn't *that* challenging.
There's many complex airspaces like that in the country around any major city or the military areas in the centre, so I was kinda used to it.
Around Geneva, I'd say what was more complicated is that the high terrain adds a whole other level of complexity regarding your choice of flight path.
The most annoying part is being able to read the maps correctly! 😁
That's where a navigation software where you can highlight specific areas and get a vertical profile comes in really handy.
They do make more detailed paper maps as well though.
Great episode. Interesting and also informative. Not all planned flights should be flown when it’s not commercial and even commercial has its limits.
I actually would appreciate in the series the license validation process, I know some countries like Germany have N numbered aircraft’s and EASA controls the European airspace but every country has its own process and requirements and it’ll be nice to see and understand some of them.
1. I wish I spoke Svenska as well as this brother speaks English.
2. This video was far more interesting than the title suggests.
3. IMO your content, editing, narration/dialogue, production are constantly improving.
Right on thanks! I greatly appreciate feedback like this which calls out the work that goes into the episodes!
And yes, titles (and thumbnails) are by far my least favourite part of RUclips publishing - If you have a better idea for this one, I’m open to changing it :)
Looks like a Morakniv? I don’t know how they do it, but it’s the sturdiest, most useful knife I’ve ever owned, holds its edge forever, and it cost me a tenner, even though it’s made in Sweden 🤯
Irish ATC here, was listening out for your voice when you announced this trip, don’t think you made it here though?
Thanks man! And yeah, we didn’t make it there - only got a couple of the big 2019/2020 trips done before everything shut down :(
Bakelite is pronounced bake-uh-light in English. It’s an early type of plastic. I wouldn’t have guessed that they would make a prop out of it.
Great job!
I cant believe they used to make propellers out of bakelite!
I go to Europe nearly every year and have always wondered how I could fly there.
Awesome!
Very much looking forward to more of this series, I'm very interested in how the experience is for you as a North American pilot.
Would really love you to cover the mixed IFR and VFR Confuses the heng out of me having spent so much time watching how it's done in the US.
Ok - I will see what I can do to address this.
The Saab design philosophy in everything they design. 😂
These US vs. Europe videos are super interesting. I just started my (practical) flight training a month ago here in Europe but part of my training will take place in the US and there are a lot more differences than I expected beyond the obvious, like Altimeter and Transition Altitude.
Awesome content and video as always & Chops.
(amazing to see your daughter so keen and into the flying )
Does your wife also love the flying?
Tho As bob hoover always said.
NEVER use ailerons to change sides in formation but only use rudders to slide left n right with minimal opposite aileron to keep wings level for minimum drag and need for speed or power changes.
flat box formation can be done entirely with rudder n elevator only.
Hey Steve, I'm really looking forward to this series. If you hadn't said anything about being in Sweden, then the look of the air field could have been anywhere in North America... with trees and maybe a wetter climate. Makes me want to visit Sweden and drop in to an aerodrome to say hello. Since you are seeking our input, here are a couple of things I'd like to understand about flying in Europe, even general answers would be cool. For Canadian private-level pilots, how much, and what kinds of time spent learning the details would be required before they could go solo? And once done, is it relatively the same throughout Europe? Thanks!
Excellent questions! I will do my best to aggress these in the upcoming episodes.
Great content! Would love to hear more about how to cross country borders in Europe under VFR. Like a flight from Sweden to Germany etc
Within the EU/Schengen, which counts for both Sweden and Germany: Just file an FPL and go! (Some cross-border flights don't require even an FPL, e.g. Germany - Austria) It gets more tricky as soon as you leave the EU and/or Schengen, e.g. flying to/from Switzerland, Norway or UK due customs or immigration.
Really looking forward to that 1941 plane.
Love love love these videos. Would love to get your advice below. Alaska seaplane part 1 and 2 were amazing. I’m really wanting to change careers from software industry to becoming a pilot. I have 0 flight experience and would love to get your advice on where to train? I’m wanting to leave Southern California since it’s way to expensive here and in over the cost of living.
I believe there’s wide spectrum in quality and detail. So many flight instructors are new pilots and appear to want to stack up hours.
Bummer you didn't get to fly the Safir. She's a sweet plane to fly on, even as a passenger.
Yeah…. It’s on the list to try again.
Glad to see this series continuing again. Such a cool environment; such cool airplanes with their unique quirks. It's a shame you didn't get to fly the Safir; I was looking forward to watching the landing gear operation and hoping you wouldn't have to use the knife. Back in the '80s we took a family vacation to Germany; we rented a car and drove around the country as well as Belgium and Luxembourg; also took a bus tour to Paris. I couldn't imagine renting a plane in Europe, but I love the idea of getting instruction and special rides there. I'm sure I'll have more questions on upcoming episodes, but the only question that comes to mind is: Does Evelyn ever watch the episodes she's in?
Haha. Evelyn does watch, but these ones are pushing the limits of how long they’ve been on pause, and she has changed so much since… I’m not going to push her to watch these ones :P
@@FlightChops That's exactly why I wondered. ;)
Dang, ForeFlight would be a requirement if I were flying there!!! That airspace defiantly looks intimidating. Kids these days will never know how good they have it with these gadgets.
You get to know the local area. And you know when you study during the PPL, you are only allowed to navigate using the map & stopwatch
@@luckyhendrix Yeah.. no. I did my PPL in the UK. Theres one or two lessons on basic equipment nav but most of the time the aircrafts GPS etc is usable.
Totally agreed that these tools are game changers - it is nice to have learned on paper, but I’m not going back :)
@@smokingspitfire1197 I did my ppl here in Belgium. No GPS. And the airspace is just as congested as in UK. If I stay Local, I don't need a gps. You end knowing the airspace, when the military or danger zones are active or not
I'm interested in the differences you discovered in airspaces and maybe even regulatory stuff in europe
I’ll definitely be addressing these questions in the next episodes from this series.
Am I reading that right at 2:29? Is that a FART gauge? 💨
DA-40 required a “flashlight” under POH section 2.13 Kinds of Operations for Night VFR. It is required… or else the flight isn’t legal. Kinda crazy!
I think in Canada the reg is that you need access to not just one, but two flashlights (with good batteries) on board for night flying… I’d have to confirm, but this has been my SOP regardless.
@@FlightChops agh okay. I always take one as well but just had never seen it presented as a “required” piece of equipment. That’s what I was trying to point out.
Come to Poland ;)
Yes! Tell me about flying there. I’d like to learn.
@@FlightChops I can’t tell you much as I am only a former aircraft mechanic but I have a close colleague that has probably 5000 hours IFR in his Piper Seneca III between Poland and Sweden.
It's jarring thinking back to when you were arriving at Toronto and were seriously concerned that visibility dropped as snow moved in, a low hours VFR guy with a realistic understanding of the dangers. And the first time we saw your daughter coming along on a flight, just a little kid. Now you are an accomplished airman and she's becoming a young lady. In the same time my own daughter has gone from a teen to pushing 30!!! How did this all happen. I wonder what the next ten years will bring?
This comment seriously resonates with me - thanks for that. It’s been a great ride and I’m happy to continue to share it.
Would using a slightly thicker metal in those spots weight more or less than a knife? And is using such thin metal really worth the risk that goes with it?
Any thicker and you'd need a bigger knife
I imagine this is one of those things that became tribal knowledge after the fact, as opposed to a design feature from the start.
Holy cow... I remember when your daughter was just a baby... Where does the time go?
Yeah - that international travel year was meant for when she was 8/9… she’s 13 now! Check today’s instagram story to see her surfing!
Great vid as usual!!! Any chance you’re coming to the U.K.? If so you must come to Elstree and Duxford…..
It was in the books for 2020. Will try again when able.
Always love your videos for the fact you keep it about flying, and not about trying to promote something dumb like a white label coffee brand named after your plane.
I get a lot of wacky offers… but yeah, I keep it limited to things that I like and use for flying. I am happy to work with companies directly related to the content I’m making… but anything else feels like a stretch.
Honestly, I've not flown since covid started :(
Ah man… sorry to hear that.
@@FlightChops It'll be OK :)
Great to show these unfortunate "no-go" decisions, which are common in northern Europe. Hasslö at Västerås is a great place, landed there in 2021 to stay for a few days. 😎We are indeed not so much used to Foreflight in Europe, as Skydemon is the market leader for VFR flight planning, and also some other tools like EasyVFR, VFRnav or AirNavPro are commonly used. Let us know once you might cross into Switzerland.✌🏼 Cheers, and keep up the good stuff!🤙🏼
ForeFlight has really stepped up their game in Europe since this video was shot years ago. Might be worth another look :)
Second!
Don't think I've ever seen a panel with a FART gauge before.... :-)
I do hope those numbers are Km/h x 10 though...
Bakelite in English pronounced baker light
It would have been a cool experience, but no plane is worth your life, or a relationship. I agree with the commenter, “Normalization saying, ‘No.’”
first! :)