CBS ranks Saints' Derek Carr 26th best starting QB in NFL. Too high or too low?

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  • Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
  • Sean Fazende and Andre Johnson Jr break down a QB power rankings list, that had #Saints quarterback Derek Carr ranked 26th out of 32 quarterbacks. They react to whether it was too low, and if so, where he should land on the list.
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  • @waltcrawford6153
    @waltcrawford6153 11 дней назад +11

    The issue with the Saints offense last year wasn’t Carr, it was the lack of a running game.

    • @Fox8OvertimePodcast
      @Fox8OvertimePodcast  11 дней назад

      No doubt, Carr took a lion share of the blame but if the run game was even middle of pack.. they wouldve made playoffs

  • @user-pb9vg6kk8j
    @user-pb9vg6kk8j 11 дней назад +8

    Somebody at CBS don’t like the Saints 😂

  • @zeepapi4421
    @zeepapi4421 11 дней назад +7

    Carr is easily top 20. Y’all just on a bandwagon of hating the dude

    • @Fox8OvertimePodcast
      @Fox8OvertimePodcast  11 дней назад +1

      Did you listen to the pod? Sean ranked him about 16-17...and could be around 11-12 in new offense

    • @zeepapi4421
      @zeepapi4421 11 дней назад +1

      @@Fox8OvertimePodcast Ayo chill! I was talking to the others in the comments😂 I agree with y’all🤣

  • @michaelmartin4366
    @michaelmartin4366 11 дней назад +5

    Brock Purdy is a perfect example of how good a QB can be in the right situation. Put him on the Saints and he's not better than Carr. Put Carr on the 49ers and he's in the playoffs often. Truth be told, our offensive line is bad, and receiving corps is average at best, which made it hard for Dalton, and for Carr.

  • @Dylan406281
    @Dylan406281 10 дней назад +1

    Derek Carr was runner up for MVP in 2016.
    He got MVP votes.
    For Gruden he was between 7-11.
    Hes a very solid QB.

  • @j.g.p.jr.6497
    @j.g.p.jr.6497 11 дней назад +4

    Too Low

  • @_DaBears_
    @_DaBears_ 10 дней назад +1

    One correction guys, at his best he is MVP caliber. 2016 I think it was, Raiders were rolling.

  • @johncarter8903
    @johncarter8903 11 дней назад +6

    Let the know-it-alls talk. Last year Carr was decent with horrible line play. Rookies - half of the top 6 drafted will be busts. Do I think DC is a top 10 QB? Probably not, but he falls within top 15. Who Dat!

    • @Fox8OvertimePodcast
      @Fox8OvertimePodcast  11 дней назад

      Fair assesement. Sean had him at 16 with a decent shot at getting to 11 or 12 with new offense.

  • @BrentonBannister-gc2pt
    @BrentonBannister-gc2pt 11 дней назад +1

    Perfect 🤌🏾

  • @captaindeluxe7328
    @captaindeluxe7328 11 дней назад +2

    Here's the only question that counts, "Would you sign Carr to the same deal if you could do it all over again"?

    • @JD.007
      @JD.007 11 дней назад +2

      yes. but if i could, i would advise him to avoid the saints. a lot of hating fans.

  • @valerielynn7256
    @valerielynn7256 11 дней назад +2

    I put Derek Carr around the 12-17 position rankings this list is so Ridiculous Absolutely makes no sense Baker Mayfield definitely isn’t better than Derek Carr I know he made the playoffs but he’s not as good of a quarterback is DC4 This has to be one of the craziest rankings list I’ve seen in a long time I hope Derek Carr sees this and use it as motivation to fire him up to prove whoever wrote this list completely wrong

    • @franciscopomar2942
      @franciscopomar2942 10 дней назад

      Yeah. Baker is better then Carr ....he don't panic on the blitz and has better footwork, and a quicker release...Carr is trash...billy joe Herbert was better then him Jake Delhome Bobby Herbert all those guys were better New Orleans poohed the bed on carr

  • @TheStacanova
    @TheStacanova 11 дней назад +1

    People call me a “Carr Stan” & that’s fine, I guess, however I’m often the only one attempting to use any objectivity in my evaluation.
    I actually created. A few years back, a 10 category aggregate ranking system to evaluate QB’s & cover as many bases as possible of QB play with as much objectivity as possible, as a way to check my own bias.
    It’s great that you watch some film, & you believe DC is a “good to average” QB and is 17 best.
    I’m not sure how you’re arriving at that without watching every snap from every QB?
    It’s a subjective “FEELING”.
    That’s how you feel about DC.
    That’s fine.
    How you feel about something doesn’t make it reality.
    DC’s ceiling is in fact a Top 5 QB.
    How do I know that?
    He did that in 2016 and received MVP votes.
    He hasn’t put it together for an entire season, like that, since then, which is why that’s his Ceiling!
    While he hasn’t repeated that season, he has had stretches of play like that.
    So how should DC be ranked based on last season’s play?
    I ranked QB’s, who played more than 9 games in 2023, it wouldn’t be fair to include those who played less.
    There were 29 Qualifiers.
    Also, QB play is relative year to year.
    Rules change, Defenses change.
    Last year was a bit of a down year for QB’s across the board.
    Using my 10 category aggregate, that includes:
    Completion %, INT %, YPA, Passer Rating, QBR, Total TD’s, Total Yards (both Passing & QB Rushing), Total 1st Downs, Fumbles Lost, PFF Grade.
    Derek Carr was the 11th best QB in 2023.
    Does that mean he’s the 11th best QB in every season?
    No.
    That’s how his play compared to other QB’s who played more than 9 games in 2023.
    This is rationale, objective, & has a defined methodology.
    This doesn’t include my “opinion”.
    This isn’t based on how tingly CJ Stroud makes you feel inside.
    This also doesn’t factor any hardship DC had, because I have no way of measuring that and other QB’s had hardships also.
    This isn’t based on how much you like or dislike Carr, the person.
    I have noticed most people who really hate DC are Woke Progressive Leftists, I’m a moderate Centrist, but that’s another conversation all together.

    • @franciscopomar2942
      @franciscopomar2942 10 дней назад

      Big long explanation of Carr talent. Here is a real short one....Jake Delhome ...a cast off from New Orleans was a better QB then Carr . and we happily traded him..he. Was better then Carr 100% not good enough...periode ...we will not stand for mediocrity .....

    • @_DaBears_
      @_DaBears_ 10 дней назад

      @@franciscopomar2942 Short explanation of franciscopomar2942 intelligence. Franciscopomar2942 says that Carr panics vs the blitz. The truth is Carr is one of the best against the blitz since 2015.

  • @michaelmartin4366
    @michaelmartin4366 11 дней назад +12

    Sorry Bud, Mayfield IS NOT a better QB than Carr. Give me a break. Put Carr on the 49ers or Dallas and he's easily a top 10 QB. You have to look at the teams a QB is playing on when you consider how good/bad a QB is.

    • @duhh4641
      @duhh4641 11 дней назад

      😂😂😂😂

    • @checkboy8
      @checkboy8 10 дней назад +2

      Mayfield is 100% better than carr

    • @thaaverage1373
      @thaaverage1373 10 дней назад

      Put damn near any current starting QB on the 49ers and they're Top 10 easily.

    • @CombatCashClub.
      @CombatCashClub. 9 дней назад

      @@checkboy8200% better

    • @dabking3611
      @dabking3611 9 дней назад

      MAYFIELD BEAT CARRBAGE WITH THE RAMS 🤗 MAYFIELD HAD NO PREPARATION WITH THE RAMS AND BEAT CARRBAGE 🗑️ MAYFIELD MADE THE PLAYOFFS AND CARRBAGE 10 YEAR VETERAN NEVER WON A PLAYOFF GAME WITH 1 PLAYOFF APPEARANCE 🗑️

  • @larryj.taylor3781
    @larryj.taylor3781 11 дней назад +4

    Carr is better than Purdy and jalen hurts and tua

  • @edodgera85
    @edodgera85 10 дней назад

    CBS has been publishing horrible takes on the Saints in general.

  • @cho1306
    @cho1306 11 дней назад +1

    I don't like Carr at all. Can't think of a single thing about his role as a leader, quarterback, or as a person that I like. But 26 IS pushing it. That's wild. C'mon guys, 26? Really?

  • @dabking3611
    @dabking3611 9 дней назад

    CARRBAGE IS 🗑️

  • @992ras
    @992ras 11 дней назад

    Derek Carr was average as whole wasn’t the worst Qb or the greatest Qb now how much of the injury actually effected some of his play early on last yr he was not accurate at points and sometimes was to scared to make the throws or made the wrong throw like the out bounds pass where he screamed at Olave. Look Brock Prudy is average the problem is the saints are not as good as SF really on both sides of the ball. This is with even making that bad trade for the early Qb the saints mistakes of late have been more magnified because of the push to be Super Bowl contenders while falling short. This yr approach seems to be able to build back up will Carr be hear the whole time they are building back up probably not especially if Rattler prove he is the future guy. If you think a rookie contract is cheaper than a vets contract.

  • @williamstidham7704
    @williamstidham7704 11 дней назад

    26th is a touch low but it’s not as ridiculous as you’re making it out to be- Carr is firmly in the 20th to 22nd range.
    He may touch 10th best on his absolutely best day, and is down around 30th-31st best on his worst day.

    • @Fox8OvertimePodcast
      @Fox8OvertimePodcast  11 дней назад

      Cant agree that his worst he's 30th... when he didnt have a single multi-INT game all year..

    • @williamstidham7704
      @williamstidham7704 11 дней назад

      @Fox8OvertimePodcast
      He had plenty of games with 0 TDs though.
      Gotta disagree that his performance against the Vikings, where he put up 110 yards and 3 points in almost 3 quarters, wasn’t good for about 30th in the league. His performance in the first Atlanta game was pretty atrocious as well.

    • @williamstidham7704
      @williamstidham7704 10 дней назад

      @moshegoldbergTheKing
      Nobody said Fields or Young was better than Carr. You ignored most of my comment and invented an argument to counter.

  • @whodat5047
    @whodat5047 10 дней назад

    I counted 19 qb’s better than Carr. So he’s not 26 he’s 20th. No big deal he’s still average

  • @franciscopomar2942
    @franciscopomar2942 10 дней назад

    And you know what all those stats are fake...why because he got most of them in trash time with the game out of reach etc....carr is garbage

    • @Fox8OvertimePodcast
      @Fox8OvertimePodcast  10 дней назад

      One game would qualify as this.. the Rams game.. Other than that, this narrative is dumb.

  • @franciscopomar2942
    @franciscopomar2942 11 дней назад +1

    Actually I think Carr should be 30th he is insecure about his abilities and his job. He struggles to learn the playbook and thinks he is much better then what he is....8-9 again incoming

    • @JD.007
      @JD.007 11 дней назад +3

      yeah ok 😂 😆🤣 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Fox8OvertimePodcast
      @Fox8OvertimePodcast  11 дней назад +4

      Just an absolutely terrible take.

    • @valerielynn7256
      @valerielynn7256 11 дней назад +1

      C’mon man are you being Serious Absolutely nothing you Wrote is true Please watch the football games more than reading box scores or coming up with your own narrative Because you may not like a guy

    • @franciscopomar2942
      @franciscopomar2942 10 дней назад +1

      @@valerielynn7256 I've been watching football before your father was born. How much is Carr paying y'all? Paid media campaign right here among Carr many. Why because he sucks and he need to pay people to keep him relevant why? Because hme sucks and his manager wants to rip off another team after he gets booted from here this year...

    • @franciscopomar2942
      @franciscopomar2942 10 дней назад +1

      @@Fox8OvertimePodcast really? Let's see he didn't know the playbook til around week 12...they wouldn't let the backup play even though Carr was so hurt(insecurity right there) and his oline and receivers fought with him on tv.and the biggest elephant in the room...the oline....he holds the ball too long and is to old to learn escapability in the pocket....Carr is garbage 8-9 or 9-8 is what's coming..I predicted this team to suck 3-5 years starting last year...year 2 is coming...watch and see

  • @nuafrica2929
    @nuafrica2929 11 дней назад

    Ranking is on point and I'd take Mayfield anyday before Carr... I'm sure that Tampa fans would agree...

  • @bayouflats5054
    @bayouflats5054 11 дней назад

    Pretty good reality check. I would say easy C- at least on down side, to me. Otherwise, “I” conjure. 😆🫵👍