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Interconnect Cables, More Money The Better?
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2019
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I love your honesty...I work in the industry and realise that 50% is marketing and bs...keep up the good work. Honesty is the best policy
That’s an old video. He’s now promoting audiophile boutique cables
Started my hi fi adventures in the mid 90s...always thought that these high end speaker cables were all the same..much hyped..thats all..ur videos are just proving it..thx
Great knowledge sharing. I've seen you how to make speaker cables as well...I learned more from you in the short videos than all the BS from salesmen claiming snake oil improvements. The truth hurts but it set me free from the BS. Keep up the great videos. I'm a lifelong fan of what you do. Thanks for providing links to the products you use.
Very refreshing to hear your opinion about the sound of different cables and the factors that are important. And not spending the whole world on cables! I think I will try your recommended methods.
Love the no BS videos -- keep 'em coming!
Love your good cables advice. Be getting your recommended cables.
Thank you for saying what I've always suspected. I bought a pair of blue jean interconnects based on your video. So we shall see. BTW i like that plant in the back of your video. Very cool.
I just bought some bulk Belden cable based on your videos. I'm looking forward to making my on rca interconnects. Thanks for your advice.
Very good cables.
Thank you for honestly sharing you experience and your knowledge. Your video was well presented and informative. Very educational and helpful. I read a comment that stated this video is too long. I feel it is not too long. Please do not abbreviate your content. Presenting the content in a manner in which you feel most comfortable (without time constraints) is most beneficial to the viewer. I now am a new subscriber and look forward to any future presentations you will make. Well done.
Thank you 🙏
Completely agree!
I owned mogami xlr cables to feed my event 8 studio monitors . The difference between the mogami to the standart cable that i got with the monitors is like night and day.
The 590s and now this. You are my brother from another mother! I bought a used Evergreen USB and jitterbug from AQ and once my system was assembled I called BS in that stuff. The BJC interconnects totally floored me compared to my "good" cheap RCAs. Then Mogami Studio Gold XLR. I had 30yo Monster speaker cables that I replaced because my buddy gave me grief, the BJC white ten was no better, except for the connector, but I'm already regretting not getting spades at one end.
Thanks Brother.
@Tharbamar Very cool videos for helping people make their own cables! And the result looks perfect to me! Well done.
Blue jeans RCA is also a great value choice. Good video by the way.
I admire your honesty. Kudos.
I used to use the Blue Jeans but now switched over to QED Performance Audio 40i. The difference was obvious enough on my Adam Tensor Delta Speakers using hegel hd30 dac to micromega as-400 amp. The QED is more open & detailed on top end and it was obvious enough for me. Although I think lot of ppl might prefer the smoother sound of Blue Jeans.
Resistance of the interconnect cables it's kind of irrelevant as long as it is below a few Ohms. And that range covers all possible cable sizes and materials.
OUTSTANDING!!! THANK YOU...
Tharbamar's honesty is second to none. There's a lot of "sold outs" in this industry, but not Tharbamar. Continue the good work and telling it like it is!
That's why he is the best reviewer I listen too. He is truthful on what he would spend his hard earned money on
Hey Tharbamar! Where did you get that cool looking braiding for the canare cable? It's a nice pearlescent color!
Excellent video. It acknowledges exactly what I found out. I sold all my expensive cables and bought good quality cables Made in China, where Audioquest Cables are also made :)))))
Good point, i always looked for cheap professional amp's and dac's, but cables make the most sense..
PS the video is too long, still glad i saw it whole.
I will try to make it shorter next time, Thanks
@@Tharbamar I have a serious question. I saw you did not use two different runs of Mogami Gold . Did you just split the wires 2 and 2? And how did you isolate them, some kind of shielding or shrink wrap around them or? I am building a gaming PC and have limited space inside so I liked the idea of splitting one cable in two RCAs. Thank you in advance for your answer.
I changed the RCA plugs of my Cardas 33AWG tonearm cable from Neutrik NYS373(gold plated brass) to Furutech FP126(G) (gold plated pure copper center plong/gold plated brass ground). FP126(G) sounds more transparent than the NYS373. Then, from FP126(G) to AQ king cobra RCA plugs (silver ("hanging") plated pure copper). The AQ king cobra RCA plugs give best transparent sound I ever tried. I also tried Blue Jean LC-1 cables with AQ king cobra RCA jacks and they sound so good and well balanced but not as transparent as AQ Water. As per your advice, I will try the Mogami later.
Excellent. I use Blue Jeans Belden , Mogami and Canare. They are top notch high end cables.
Gotham GAC-2 and GAC4 are also top-notch
@@nandorblue I have a Gotham microphone cable and also a Gotham guitar cable too
@@ramencurry6672 My absolute favorite is the GAC 3 in my system, the best sounding.
Great video! Thank you
Your content has outstanding qualoty, keep it up! I think most people can agree that some of your videos are too long.. heres my idea:
you could make the short and long version, by this people can get educated quicker and people who want details can watch the long version
Keep it up, all love ❤️
fantastic stuff! Cheers mate !!
I make my own from low inductance cable , they sound fine and cost me about £20 , installed in a system that wasnt cheap
Tharbamar thanks for you video. I odered mogami gold rca for my car audio. Price is good for them. I hope sound will be better. Now I have sinfoni cables.
Great Video! No Baloney real life experience about what counts and what doesn't for sound quality.
I upgraded my "new" Oehlbach cables which were good with the Magami cables based on this review and testing.It was expensive for me, but totally worth it. The increase in fine detail plus a more neutral and less harsh sound . Budget Oelbach cables were detailed but a bit harsh on my system. I will now only buy Magami cables.
Thank you!
Would appreciate a video on DIY audiophile XLR cables.
Yes I will, thanks
Great review, very interesting; just two questions: what cable do you recommend me in order to connect the Bluetooth RCA (BluDento) adapter to the amplify? Do you have the link to buy the "feeble riser" ?
After trying some more expensive cables (RCA and speaker) mostly TQ Ultra Black line up, I have the exact same experience. Pro cables are genuinely neutral in their delivery they portray how your components sound. The more expensive cables use different allows and constructions, multi strands or different exotic materials that increase conductivity etc and different isolators to just give some additional colour in detail, or more pronounced bass etc. I actually like that in my desktop system because you are sitting very close to the speakers and you benefit from every bit of extra soundstage, because there is limited room interactions. In my living room (main system), however I prefer the “Pro” cables because otherwise it imbalances my already balanced system. So with everything it really depends. Put your money in components and clean power supply components first. Upgraded power supply in my experience reduces noise and not so much sound. It is a well upgrade of the system. I use also pro for that, Furutech The Empire.
Thanks for sharing.
i had QED Graphite which are good cables but a little bottom heavy at times. i had a pair made up recently with Van Damme locap 55 guitar cable with WBT style plugs, altogether cost the same as the QED cable did but they blow them out of the water, they're as good s a cable costing 10x what the QEDs did
Try hi-fidelity cables, do a review on their magnetic conduction...
Good presentation, thank you
What is rarely mentioned is SYNERGY, source-cable--amp-cable-speakers
Cheap cables can have better synergy than expensive ones, the only question is whether you will pay 50 times the price for only 5% improvement
Start with cheap cables and go step by step towards better cable, if you can borrow better cables, borrow and try, until you get a sound you like, don't waste money on something you haven't heard in your system, "NICE CABLE" is NOT better cable
Cables do not matter at all. A $6 monoprice cable performs as good as a $18k nordost cable. It sounds EXACTLY the same! That's straight science for you. If you think otherwise get me scientific data. You'll find none.
Are the outside screw on jacket & spring that surround the center pin really gold plated like the pin?
Or is it brass?
Falcon Cables - my favourite. It is a non-fancy pro audio cable. In just a glance you will notice that it is way ahead in quality than Belden. The copper looks very clean and pure in Falcon. The insulation is also highly durable. The dealer said it is made to withstand tramps of the entire crowd if laid through the ground.
ANY TIME you see Pro Audio on anything. Run fast
Also %98 of the time you see
Remastered. Run faster
@@twochaudiomg2578Did you watch the video? He said pro audio is more honest than the audiophile industry. The problem with audiophile cables is that the specs are usually not published. Pro audio cables like Belden, Mogami, Canare have already been thoroughly tested and they publish the specs. The smaller mom and pop cable companies unfortunately lean towards snake oil. I refuse to buy any cable that does not publish their specs
Thank you.
An inexpensive alternative is the Kimber KCAG with WBT-0110 AG Nextgen connectors
Super impressed with your Hi-quality work and detailed info! please can you record a video for (3.5mm audio to RCA - (Analog to Digital)
@tharbamar
What is the model code for mogami gold? Seems to have a lot of different type.
I want to DIY rca cables from it 😊
Did you make a video how to make the Mogami cables? I’ve seen the one when you make two separate cables, I was interested in the one you are holding where the entire cable is in one sheath. Thank you
Is the Mogami No Compromise RCA cable as good as the Mogami Gold RCA cable ?
You're right it's a lot of snake oil on the business blind test is the best option
Can be used the component cable as a RCA audio cable?If not why?
Thank you for a very nice review🙏🙏
Great video ........ And it seems you've come to the same conclusion I have 😉👍
Mogami
Honest review
Good comments, have you try or have comments on Cardas speaker cables and interconnects.
love you man
Hi Tharbamar! Can I apply Mogami Gold RCA for auto to connect audio processor with amflier? thanks
Wonderful video BTW. Which coax cable do you recommend and can I use a pro grade RCA cable instead?
Excellent Video.
Hello Tharbamar, you mentioned in the video that you used to use Audioquest Diamond Backs and the King Cobras on your system, what's your experience (differences) with those two and how does the lower costing cables compare to the Cobras?
I really like your product
I saw something on another channel and I think he boiled it down to 2 key points. A cable can't add anything to the signal (unless it causes equipment to start oscillating). A cable can only take something away be it highs or lows.
In y opinion you want reasonably low inductance and capacitance. You want low resistance and that requires very good quality copper. The connectors should grip the equipment very well and the material should be tarnish free.
What is the model number on the MOGAMI GOLD cables ?
Is it MOGAMI 2964 ?
Thank you
agree with you, keep up good work
Hello , very very good video! I have a question- is it Mogami 3237 good choice for RCA ??
And I do everything with silver. Although this is more down to Death Metal. I find copper boring but if I was watching a movie I would use copper. Ace video.
The Mogami Gold you are using, is it the Mogami 2964 ?
Thank you
great info
Sorry to bug you. What r your thoughts regarding balanced rca cables? Do you have a video making balanced rca directional cables?
Do any of these cables come in male to female (extension) version? Also, do they come with ground cables, is that necessary? I need to extend my turntable rca which is TOO short. Thanks and great video!
I have pretty much all Mogami cables, 2549, 2534, 2964, 2497, 2803. Besides 2549, all the others sound good in different ways. Your gold 2534 is a great choice, but IMO sounds a bit too similar to your L-4E6S.
How old are your ears ?
@@User32458 pushing 30
The blue jeans rca cables make a lot of hum on my system.
Thank you again for the amazingly useful video. Parts express has Neutrik NF2C-B/2 Profi Professional RCA Plug Pair. Are these the Neutrix RCA you use?
sean Salem yes, they are
whats the RCA cable you are speaking about @ 11:51? need cables that are neutral for my system, cables that don't colour the sound ! RCA and Speaker alike.
Its Blue Jeans LC-1 Cables.
6:38 “Honesty is the last thing you will find in this industry” Amen!!
There are other effects like dielectric loss and shielding quality for example.
Hi. I'm trying to find the cable that is your favorite. The 3rd cable on the video, but when I hit the links, they don't look the same. I believe you said Mogami, but the cable on the link has a different connecter. How good is the connecter on the amazon link for Mogami?
Hi, it’s been a while, they might have change the design, thanks
Very good video.
I think i need better ears than cables - I’m not Wi-curious much but I like to watch.
Any opinion on Canare cables? Great video
is there too much of a difference between the mogami and the blue jeans?
Great video, very honest I like that but I'm confused on th Mogami. The link to the video description takes you to the Mogami Gold for digital connection which are sold individually not as pairs. Are you recommending a digital cable for stereo? And in your responses to comments here you name 2945 and W3003, this later is a speaker cable. Which Mogami were you referring for stereo Interconnects?
Just buy canare gs-4 ou gs-6 with canare connector, solder them yourself you will have a superb sound! We use it on stage and in studio
Is Mogami W3082 more detailed than Canarie 4S11...I have two yahmaha M2 amps and bi amping spendor s100 that have 3 posts on each speaker I'm presently using canarie 4s11 bi-wired to one amp mids on speaker A posts and highs on speaker B posts and the Lows are being fed with the other amp on Speaker A...just wondering if the mogami w3082 would have more detail than canarie 4s11...i don't mind running 3 seperate sets of wires two from one amp speakerA&B and lows from other yahmaha m2
Can you please make a video of making XRL balanced cable?
I will do that when I’m not too busy, thanks
at 3:16 classic line example......"easier than making pancake"
really liked the audio stand you had the parasound on. would like you to reference the name brand of that stand(manufacturer) where to buy? (if still available)
very informative!! thanks
It was custom made stands, thanks
Love it.👍
You'll never need anything that you believe is better than a recording studio.
Which cables come at mostly less than 10 bucks a meter on a roll.
Now if you wish to pay a bit extra for a bit more fancy connectors, thats all fine.
I do this occationally aswell, but paying say 50 bucks or more for connectors
alone is foolery. All people who does the ABX fails, because they can no longer
rely on their placebo.
well said. This snake oil BS is what pisses me off the most about the HiFi world. these companies are basically robbing people blind.
Mogami and Blue Jeans work for me. $40 interconnects. That's all I need. Yep. Pretty sure.
The "change in sound" of each of these cables is related to their impedance. The end result between cable A and cable B depends on the impedance of the send / receive interfaces + the cable. Buying an expensive cable doesn't necessarily translates into a better sound. In the HiFi world, there is often placebo effect... So trust your ears and choose what you like, not necessarily what the seller/dealer wants to sell you! Don't be fooled by "High Speed", "3D" and all other meaningless words!
I made my own cables with solid silver, cost me around $65 for a 1 meter pair....Also the Mogami W2549 also sounds great too for DIY
Nice! Even when/if u go wireless in the future, you can at anytime sell the silver by weight... could possibly be for a profit.
I have done this too. I used Furutech RCA connectors and they work just fine.
Mogami W2549 sounds quite neutral but I still like my XLO's more which the way it twisted is unique.
I appreciate your honesty Tharbamar!
everyone should ask themselves why there are no measurements ever when it comes to outlandish statements involving audio cables... I mean great measuring tools are quite accessible these days. if a cable makes such tremendous difference in sound over a different cable, i'm sure an oscilloscope or a spectrometer would pick that right up. :}
What’s the best subwoofer cable? Can I get one in Mogami w3104?
I totally agree with you. Trust your ears and watch your wallet. There are so many myths in the audiophile world.
There are so many bad people and companies in the audiophile world,
@Larry Niles A lot of snakeoil audio companies are trying to screw gullible consumers. You're the one bitching here bud.
One of my favorite cables is the Dimarzio M Path. Not because of the sound but because of the excellent build quality and it’s hard to find since it’s no longer made. Dimarzio still makes guitar cables and they are outstanding and less than $50. Good bargains actually
the mogami gold are mogami 2964 cables, is there any particular reason for them being more expensive than non ¨gold¨ model branded ones? the gold are usually double that of the normal 2964
The connectors make it a higher price than bulk wires that comes without connectors. Marketing and packaging are also different because bulk wire sales in rolls 50 - 100 meters make more cheap compared to 1 - 5 meters Mogami Gold.
I always make DIY RCA cable myself with 2964 and a cheap RCA connector from Nakamichi.
Is that a Kimber plant?
Nice and informative video. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Question about the interconnect cabels:
Do they work in car audio, too? Or would you choose other cables?
It will work but check with manufacturers for proper rating and safety, thanks
@@Tharbamar WOW. instant answer. Thank you again. See you on RUclips.
Back in the day... I followed the same principle of just trying/buying studio/pro grade belden cables and interconnects...and although ...like all curious hifi people I have tried, explored, borrowed and listened to other much more expensive hifi brands..and while I will say they did subtly influence and change the sound signature and tone etc, etc, but I always felt the beldens were always just right for me and my systems.
After all it's all personal and subjective really....and luckily it seems I have cheaper tastes LOL...as even speaker cable I prefer ofc cables than these silver or silvered hybrids.
That said.... I would have still bought the more expensive cables...if they had sounded better!
Thanks for sharing.
Grea vid,I have a Question,I have made my own RCA cables for Technics Turntables for years, typical white Red connection from the PCB Board to two connectors White Red all good,one Day I've decided to Make my own RCA,male to male for plug and unplug RCA Turntables,they worked Both Directions fine,the problem is that,I've tried to build more and now they don't work at all,same cables same connectors and I don't even remember what I did the first time to make them Work Both Directions! Any help?
100% correct
amazing, this bloke can hear the difference between silver and copper cable.
Easier than making pancakes... I like that
It's really pretty simple, "High Quality" cables 'can possibly' make a difference if all the other system connection variables are allowing your system components to operate at High levels. How much money you've spent doesn't mean sh%t if what you've connected to doesn't have the Synergy to go beyond being a random collection of entertainment equipment.
There is no measurable nor audible difference between good standard quality cables and the high end cables that manufacturers are pushing to clueless buyers. Any difference that people claim to hear between them is purely down to expectation bias and wouldn't manifest in a properly conducted blind listening test. Same goes for most other components such as DACs and amplifiers. The only parts of a system which make an audible difference are headphones/speakers and room acoustics.
Tunti Turpaan 110% agree with you on expectation bias. It's one of the prominent intangibles that drives the audiophile industry. To say though that only speakers and room acoustics affect sound, you're selling yourself short. It all starts at the electrical panel. Dirty power, dirty sound. All components in the "chain" make a difference, even cables. Heck you can even hear the startling difference playing a low res MP3 file vs an audiophile hi res file off a phone speaker! Let's be clear, different can mean better, but can also just mean different. That's the fun in this hobby, there is no absolute. There is only what sounds good to you and what your wallet can stand.
I'm using Blue Jeans cables from USA, very solid made, though I have to give opinion that their RCA male to male cable that connect my Fostex HP-A3 DAC/preamp and NAD M22 V2 power amplifier does cause a larger buzz on the speakers when in idle, so I switch to use normal RCA which was gave when I bought Audinst HUD-MX2, in short it's really not recommended to buy too expensive cables, choose the right and affordable for your sound system. One thing merits discussion, regarding the buzz causing by the RCA, I suspect is due to the extra metal near the output point, instead the normal RCA is more plastic instead of metal, so it does not cause problem, more premium metal does not mean better in this case, it may cause more problems, depend which signal chain state and gears used I think. The buzz does not happen that much when connected to a Class D Audio SDS-470C power amplifier.
Hi man, in your opinion regarding the Canare l4e6s or mogami w2045 cables still the same today or is there any other model today that you think is better? thx!
I’m still using them even though I have much more expensive newer cables from different brands.