Started my hi fi adventures in the mid 90s...always thought that these high end speaker cables were all the same..much hyped..thats all..ur videos are just proving it..thx
I changed the RCA plugs of my Cardas 33AWG tonearm cable from Neutrik NYS373(gold plated brass) to Furutech FP126(G) (gold plated pure copper center plong/gold plated brass ground). FP126(G) sounds more transparent than the NYS373. Then, from FP126(G) to AQ king cobra RCA plugs (silver ("hanging") plated pure copper). The AQ king cobra RCA plugs give best transparent sound I ever tried. I also tried Blue Jean LC-1 cables with AQ king cobra RCA jacks and they sound so good and well balanced but not as transparent as AQ Water. As per your advice, I will try the Mogami later.
Great knowledge sharing. I've seen you how to make speaker cables as well...I learned more from you in the short videos than all the BS from salesmen claiming snake oil improvements. The truth hurts but it set me free from the BS. Keep up the great videos. I'm a lifelong fan of what you do. Thanks for providing links to the products you use.
Very refreshing to hear your opinion about the sound of different cables and the factors that are important. And not spending the whole world on cables! I think I will try your recommended methods.
valuable information. thank you for your honest opinion. and as you said. making your own Cables is the way to go.. i'd rather do that and put the money toward better equipment than buying big brand names.
Good presentation, thank you What is rarely mentioned is SYNERGY, source-cable--amp-cable-speakers Cheap cables can have better synergy than expensive ones, the only question is whether you will pay 50 times the price for only 5% improvement Start with cheap cables and go step by step towards better cable, if you can borrow better cables, borrow and try, until you get a sound you like, don't waste money on something you haven't heard in your system, "NICE CABLE" is NOT better cable
Cables do not matter at all. A $6 monoprice cable performs as good as a $18k nordost cable. It sounds EXACTLY the same! That's straight science for you. If you think otherwise get me scientific data. You'll find none.
Tharbamar's honesty is second to none. There's a lot of "sold outs" in this industry, but not Tharbamar. Continue the good work and telling it like it is!
Resistance of the interconnect cables it's kind of irrelevant as long as it is below a few Ohms. And that range covers all possible cable sizes and materials.
whats the RCA cable you are speaking about @ 11:51? need cables that are neutral for my system, cables that don't colour the sound ! RCA and Speaker alike.
I owned mogami xlr cables to feed my event 8 studio monitors . The difference between the mogami to the standart cable that i got with the monitors is like night and day.
Thank you for honestly sharing you experience and your knowledge. Your video was well presented and informative. Very educational and helpful. I read a comment that stated this video is too long. I feel it is not too long. Please do not abbreviate your content. Presenting the content in a manner in which you feel most comfortable (without time constraints) is most beneficial to the viewer. I now am a new subscriber and look forward to any future presentations you will make. Well done.
Thank you for saying what I've always suspected. I bought a pair of blue jean interconnects based on your video. So we shall see. BTW i like that plant in the back of your video. Very cool.
Excellent video. It acknowledges exactly what I found out. I sold all my expensive cables and bought good quality cables Made in China, where Audioquest Cables are also made :)))))
Could you please advise what best termination combination works/recommended for Canare l-4e6s to be used for RCA. With info about Pros and Cons of each option below. Both Blues: Centre Pin (Both Sides) * Both Whites: -ve or Ground (Both sides) * Shield: NOT Connected to anything (Both sides) Or Both Blues: Centre Pin (Both Sides) * Both Whites + Shield: -ve or Ground (Both sides) Or Both Blues: Centre Pin (Both Sides) * Both Whites + Shield: -ve or Ground (One Side [Source] only) * On the other side only Both Whites: -ve or Ground but Shield: NOT Connected to anything Thanks a lot, in advance.
@@Tharbamar you being experience person, you might have already checked these different combinations. so thought of seeking your input based on your observations. please
I used to use the Blue Jeans but now switched over to QED Performance Audio 40i. The difference was obvious enough on my Adam Tensor Delta Speakers using hegel hd30 dac to micromega as-400 amp. The QED is more open & detailed on top end and it was obvious enough for me. Although I think lot of ppl might prefer the smoother sound of Blue Jeans.
After trying some more expensive cables (RCA and speaker) mostly TQ Ultra Black line up, I have the exact same experience. Pro cables are genuinely neutral in their delivery they portray how your components sound. The more expensive cables use different allows and constructions, multi strands or different exotic materials that increase conductivity etc and different isolators to just give some additional colour in detail, or more pronounced bass etc. I actually like that in my desktop system because you are sitting very close to the speakers and you benefit from every bit of extra soundstage, because there is limited room interactions. In my living room (main system), however I prefer the “Pro” cables because otherwise it imbalances my already balanced system. So with everything it really depends. Put your money in components and clean power supply components first. Upgraded power supply in my experience reduces noise and not so much sound. It is a well upgrade of the system. I use also pro for that, Furutech The Empire.
i had QED Graphite which are good cables but a little bottom heavy at times. i had a pair made up recently with Van Damme locap 55 guitar cable with WBT style plugs, altogether cost the same as the QED cable did but they blow them out of the water, they're as good s a cable costing 10x what the QEDs did
Grea vid,I have a Question,I have made my own RCA cables for Technics Turntables for years, typical white Red connection from the PCB Board to two connectors White Red all good,one Day I've decided to Make my own RCA,male to male for plug and unplug RCA Turntables,they worked Both Directions fine,the problem is that,I've tried to build more and now they don't work at all,same cables same connectors and I don't even remember what I did the first time to make them Work Both Directions! Any help?
My opinion as a pro musician with hifi experience. Any cable is a filter. A signal cannot come out better it went in a cables. Parameters are used to give a cable an own sound. You can play with that to fine tune your equipment. Sometimes a little more high will give you the best result at the end. Sometimes the mid and sometimes the low tones. Also your room acoustics is doing something. It's all about the total/final match. A lot of people are not able to hear theses differences, be happy! I also build a few cables with Belden, Canare and Mogami. They do their work pretty good. By the way, if a cable sounds different is that better? And what is better. You also need a rather expensive (read very good) hifi system do hear these differences. Lets say 10.000-20.000 dollar/euro. Off course salesmen make a lot of money selling expensive cables. Explain to me what "wonder" material can be inside a cable. Nothing! Always use your own ears and listen blind. Let someone else change cables while your listening. Don't forget it is a macho mann world. Yes, I am able to that differences. Congrats. Stay with both feet on the ground. Rember, the soundquality of records can give many differences. A lot of salesmen hate me, because I spoil their income. But I don't care and don't ly. Finally, I know a reviewer very well. He once had the Walhalla interconnect. His system sounded fantastic. Are we listening to all Walhalla cables now? The sound is great! No I build all cables by myself, he said. He just found out what is inside famous cables and makes his own copy's. I have the same now. I pay him 100 dollar/euro for an interconnect and a little more for the speaker cables. I don't even wanna know what's inside. Have fun.
Hi, did anyone ever try out Mogami 2497 and 2803, maybe with Klei connectors, how would that compare to combinations with Neutrik Profi connectors, Mogami 2534 and 2549 cable?
@@Tharbamar Thank you!!! By your advice I bought 3104 speaker cables and they are just amazing. You think Neutrik Profi connectors are good enough or should I look for something else? Witchcraft (all black) are not available in Europe at this time. BTW, I love your channel!!! It is very special. Don't waste your time on 'haters', not worth it.
Thank you! Viborg (VR109 and VR109G, which are their cheapest available in Europe) are twice as expensive (80 to 85 eur=usd) compared to Neutrik Profi (40 eur=usd) and cost as much as Klei Harmony copper and Harmony silver (80 and 100 eur=usd) which are supposed to be reference besides Klei Harmony Pure22 (140 eur=usd). Dilemmas, dilemmas... Bulk wires (most popular from Mogami, Canare, ...) are cheap, connectors expensive... I hoped Neutrik Profi would be a perfect compromise between price and SQ. BTW, I watched you Focal Sopra 2 review many times, because of my small room I abandoned my hopes of them and opted for old Marantz LS-85. Your channel saves money and bring (SQ) happiness.
@@Tharbamar not silver wire...i'm talking about soldering your conections, like your banana plugs, spades, or any other connectors when making up DIY cables?...I purchased some mundorf 10% silver solder to solder my connectors together...while i'm making cables like in your DIY videos...Canare 4S11 for my mains...
Is Mogami W3082 more detailed than Canarie 4S11...I have two yahmaha M2 amps and bi amping spendor s100 that have 3 posts on each speaker I'm presently using canarie 4s11 bi-wired to one amp mids on speaker A posts and highs on speaker B posts and the Lows are being fed with the other amp on Speaker A...just wondering if the mogami w3082 would have more detail than canarie 4s11...i don't mind running 3 seperate sets of wires two from one amp speakerA&B and lows from other yahmaha m2
I have pretty much all Mogami cables, 2549, 2534, 2964, 2497, 2803. Besides 2549, all the others sound good in different ways. Your gold 2534 is a great choice, but IMO sounds a bit too similar to your L-4E6S.
The 590s and now this. You are my brother from another mother! I bought a used Evergreen USB and jitterbug from AQ and once my system was assembled I called BS in that stuff. The BJC interconnects totally floored me compared to my "good" cheap RCAs. Then Mogami Studio Gold XLR. I had 30yo Monster speaker cables that I replaced because my buddy gave me grief, the BJC white ten was no better, except for the connector, but I'm already regretting not getting spades at one end.
Your content has outstanding qualoty, keep it up! I think most people can agree that some of your videos are too long.. heres my idea: you could make the short and long version, by this people can get educated quicker and people who want details can watch the long version Keep it up, all love ❤️
Good point, i always looked for cheap professional amp's and dac's, but cables make the most sense.. PS the video is too long, still glad i saw it whole.
@@Tharbamar I have a serious question. I saw you did not use two different runs of Mogami Gold . Did you just split the wires 2 and 2? And how did you isolate them, some kind of shielding or shrink wrap around them or? I am building a gaming PC and have limited space inside so I liked the idea of splitting one cable in two RCAs. Thank you in advance for your answer.
Do any of these cables come in male to female (extension) version? Also, do they come with ground cables, is that necessary? I need to extend my turntable rca which is TOO short. Thanks and great video!
Falcon Cables - my favourite. It is a non-fancy pro audio cable. In just a glance you will notice that it is way ahead in quality than Belden. The copper looks very clean and pure in Falcon. The insulation is also highly durable. The dealer said it is made to withstand tramps of the entire crowd if laid through the ground.
@@twochaudiomg2578Did you watch the video? He said pro audio is more honest than the audiophile industry. The problem with audiophile cables is that the specs are usually not published. Pro audio cables like Belden, Mogami, Canare have already been thoroughly tested and they publish the specs. The smaller mom and pop cable companies unfortunately lean towards snake oil. I refuse to buy any cable that does not publish their specs
Hi. I'm trying to find the cable that is your favorite. The 3rd cable on the video, but when I hit the links, they don't look the same. I believe you said Mogami, but the cable on the link has a different connecter. How good is the connecter on the amazon link for Mogami?
Hi man, in your opinion regarding the Canare l4e6s or mogami w2045 cables still the same today or is there any other model today that you think is better? thx!
Anyone saying cables don't matter, have never tested or didn't have the money to try different cables in a good system...I can attest to how good Ortofon Reference Red RCA Interconnect is between preamp and amplifier... I tried the Chord Silver Plus because it works well between my Copland cda 288 cd player and pre amp...so i tried replacing my Ortofon Red from pre amp to amp with the Chord Silver Plus...NOT near as good as my Ortofon Red RCA was...so of course switched it back...now I am wondering and thinking of trying the level up from Red to Blue or Black Ortofon RCA cables...has anyone tried the different Otofon RCA Cables to help me decide ❓
at 3:16 classic line example......"easier than making pancake" really liked the audio stand you had the parasound on. would like you to reference the name brand of that stand(manufacturer) where to buy? (if still available) very informative!! thanks
Great video, very honest I like that but I'm confused on th Mogami. The link to the video description takes you to the Mogami Gold for digital connection which are sold individually not as pairs. Are you recommending a digital cable for stereo? And in your responses to comments here you name 2945 and W3003, this later is a speaker cable. Which Mogami were you referring for stereo Interconnects?
please tell me the best Canare or Magomi cable with 3 wires to use for Rel Subwoofer Speakon Neutrik connector and the other end has 3 wires going to R/L positive and Black either negative...So I need a Canare or mogami cable with 3 wires...what should I get??
Hi Tharbamar, I bought a Mogami W2964. It sound neutral, witha good bass prominence. Buttoo much soundstage narrowing, less holography than Tasker RG59 Bu (1€/m) and VDH the wave (19€/m) or QED Performance. Which Mogami/canare digital one that offering a big, deep and holographyc soundstage, do you suggest?
WHAT ABOUT SHIELDING ? The main reason why I purchased expensive cables, sub leads etc was for the extra shielding! I cannot put up with any kind of unwanted noise (radio frequencies) so therefore if you can recommend any kind reasonable priced cables which has good shielding.... I'm all ears!
One of my favorite cables is the Dimarzio M Path. Not because of the sound but because of the excellent build quality and it’s hard to find since it’s no longer made. Dimarzio still makes guitar cables and they are outstanding and less than $50. Good bargains actually
Very good video. Congratulations. Very clear. I will think to do that. What do you think of the Absolute AW400? I have 10 meters offered for purchase. I'm thinking of buying. is it worth it? Best regards e thank you very much.
@@Tharbamar Thanks for the answer. I think I'm going to test the Absolute cable. The price is good. I really appreciate your tips and teachings in hi-end audio. Congratulations again.
I saw something on another channel and I think he boiled it down to 2 key points. A cable can't add anything to the signal (unless it causes equipment to start oscillating). A cable can only take something away be it highs or lows. In y opinion you want reasonably low inductance and capacitance. You want low resistance and that requires very good quality copper. The connectors should grip the equipment very well and the material should be tarnish free.
I upgraded my "new" Oehlbach cables which were good with the Magami cables based on this review and testing.It was expensive for me, but totally worth it. The increase in fine detail plus a more neutral and less harsh sound . Budget Oelbach cables were detailed but a bit harsh on my system. I will now only buy Magami cables.
the mogami gold are mogami 2964 cables, is there any particular reason for them being more expensive than non ¨gold¨ model branded ones? the gold are usually double that of the normal 2964
The connectors make it a higher price than bulk wires that comes without connectors. Marketing and packaging are also different because bulk wire sales in rolls 50 - 100 meters make more cheap compared to 1 - 5 meters Mogami Gold. I always make DIY RCA cable myself with 2964 and a cheap RCA connector from Nakamichi.
The "change in sound" of each of these cables is related to their impedance. The end result between cable A and cable B depends on the impedance of the send / receive interfaces + the cable. Buying an expensive cable doesn't necessarily translates into a better sound. In the HiFi world, there is often placebo effect... So trust your ears and choose what you like, not necessarily what the seller/dealer wants to sell you! Don't be fooled by "High Speed", "3D" and all other meaningless words!
I use all their cables, 2497 is very good, clean, super quiet and without coloration. It might not fit in small RCA connector housing. I use it with Canare F-10 or Mogami 7553.
@@Tharbamar In Europe there is audiophonics.fr(france) and audiocables.eu(greece) not cheap as Redco though. Do you have any other recommendations where to shop for?
Do you use only one brand of interconnects throughout your entire system or .. have you mixed interconnects from the the different manufacturers you like?
@@Tharbamar Yes, of course. My question is: Do you mix and match the different brands into your system to use simultaneously ... at the same time? Will you use say ..the Mogami for one DAC connection to your pre but also simultaneously use the Belden to connect a second component or .. Are you consistant with one brand at one time? 🤔💣💥👊👍🍸🥩🥗🥔🍷🍰☕
I’m just wondering what mogami cable are you using. Is it the 2549, 2534, 2803, or 2552.? By the way, what is that retractable connector that you use for the Blue Jean cable? Where did you buy it? Thanks.
Tharbamar Thanks for the quick response. I have the Wharfedale D225. Unfortunately, I’m not getting the full potential of that speaker. I just can’t make it to sing with just power coming from an AVR. So I bought the vintage Adcom GFA-555 II power amp which is now connected to the receiver preamp. So I know the next step is to buy a decent interconnect cable. So I suddenly remembered your guide to buying cables video and started watching it again. That’s why I started asking these questions. I know you prefer the ProFi connector, but if I’m not ready to do a DIY which one of these connectors do you prefer Neutrik Rean, Nakamichi, or Amphenol with Mogami gold cable? My other option is to go with BJ LC-1 or with Canare L-4E6S with Amphenol connector. Thanks again.
Tharbamar Can you use these following cable AudioQuest VDM-1 Digital Coax and AudioQuest VDM-X Digital Coax use as interconnects from AVR pre out to power amp?
Nice and informative video. Thank you for sharing your experiences. Question about the interconnect cabels: Do they work in car audio, too? Or would you choose other cables?
Tharbamar thanks for you video. I odered mogami gold rca for my car audio. Price is good for them. I hope sound will be better. Now I have sinfoni cables.
Did you make a video how to make the Mogami cables? I’ve seen the one when you make two separate cables, I was interested in the one you are holding where the entire cable is in one sheath. Thank you
You'll never need anything that you believe is better than a recording studio. Which cables come at mostly less than 10 bucks a meter on a roll. Now if you wish to pay a bit extra for a bit more fancy connectors, thats all fine. I do this occationally aswell, but paying say 50 bucks or more for connectors alone is foolery. All people who does the ABX fails, because they can no longer rely on their placebo.
I love your honesty...I work in the industry and realise that 50% is marketing and bs...keep up the good work. Honesty is the best policy
That’s an old video. He’s now promoting audiophile boutique cables
Started my hi fi adventures in the mid 90s...always thought that these high end speaker cables were all the same..much hyped..thats all..ur videos are just proving it..thx
Love the no BS videos -- keep 'em coming!
I changed the RCA plugs of my Cardas 33AWG tonearm cable from Neutrik NYS373(gold plated brass) to Furutech FP126(G) (gold plated pure copper center plong/gold plated brass ground). FP126(G) sounds more transparent than the NYS373. Then, from FP126(G) to AQ king cobra RCA plugs (silver ("hanging") plated pure copper). The AQ king cobra RCA plugs give best transparent sound I ever tried. I also tried Blue Jean LC-1 cables with AQ king cobra RCA jacks and they sound so good and well balanced but not as transparent as AQ Water. As per your advice, I will try the Mogami later.
Great knowledge sharing. I've seen you how to make speaker cables as well...I learned more from you in the short videos than all the BS from salesmen claiming snake oil improvements. The truth hurts but it set me free from the BS. Keep up the great videos. I'm a lifelong fan of what you do. Thanks for providing links to the products you use.
Very refreshing to hear your opinion about the sound of different cables and the factors that are important. And not spending the whole world on cables! I think I will try your recommended methods.
valuable information. thank you for your honest opinion.
and as you said. making your own Cables is the way to go.. i'd rather do that and put the money toward better equipment than buying big brand names.
Good presentation, thank you
What is rarely mentioned is SYNERGY, source-cable--amp-cable-speakers
Cheap cables can have better synergy than expensive ones, the only question is whether you will pay 50 times the price for only 5% improvement
Start with cheap cables and go step by step towards better cable, if you can borrow better cables, borrow and try, until you get a sound you like, don't waste money on something you haven't heard in your system, "NICE CABLE" is NOT better cable
Cables do not matter at all. A $6 monoprice cable performs as good as a $18k nordost cable. It sounds EXACTLY the same! That's straight science for you. If you think otherwise get me scientific data. You'll find none.
Blue jeans RCA is also a great value choice. Good video by the way.
Tharbamar's honesty is second to none. There's a lot of "sold outs" in this industry, but not Tharbamar. Continue the good work and telling it like it is!
That's why he is the best reviewer I listen too. He is truthful on what he would spend his hard earned money on
Excellent. I use Blue Jeans Belden , Mogami and Canare. They are top notch high end cables.
Gotham GAC-2 and GAC4 are also top-notch
@@nandorblue I have a Gotham microphone cable and also a Gotham guitar cable too
@@ramencurry6672 My absolute favorite is the GAC 3 in my system, the best sounding.
I admire your honesty. Kudos.
Resistance of the interconnect cables it's kind of irrelevant as long as it is below a few Ohms. And that range covers all possible cable sizes and materials.
whats the RCA cable you are speaking about @ 11:51? need cables that are neutral for my system, cables that don't colour the sound ! RCA and Speaker alike.
Its Blue Jeans LC-1 Cables.
I owned mogami xlr cables to feed my event 8 studio monitors . The difference between the mogami to the standart cable that i got with the monitors is like night and day.
Thank you for honestly sharing you experience and your knowledge. Your video was well presented and informative. Very educational and helpful. I read a comment that stated this video is too long. I feel it is not too long. Please do not abbreviate your content. Presenting the content in a manner in which you feel most comfortable (without time constraints) is most beneficial to the viewer. I now am a new subscriber and look forward to any future presentations you will make. Well done.
Thank you 🙏
Completely agree!
What is the model number on the MOGAMI GOLD cables ?
Is it MOGAMI 2964 ?
Thank you
Thank you for saying what I've always suspected. I bought a pair of blue jean interconnects based on your video. So we shall see. BTW i like that plant in the back of your video. Very cool.
Excellent video. It acknowledges exactly what I found out. I sold all my expensive cables and bought good quality cables Made in China, where Audioquest Cables are also made :)))))
Could you please advise what best termination combination works/recommended for Canare l-4e6s to be used for RCA. With info about Pros and Cons of each option below.
Both Blues: Centre Pin (Both Sides) * Both Whites: -ve or Ground (Both sides) * Shield: NOT Connected to anything (Both sides)
Or
Both Blues: Centre Pin (Both Sides) * Both Whites + Shield: -ve or Ground (Both sides)
Or
Both Blues: Centre Pin (Both Sides) * Both Whites + Shield: -ve or Ground (One Side [Source] only) * On the other side only Both Whites: -ve or Ground but Shield: NOT Connected to anything
Thanks a lot, in advance.
It depends on your preference but It don’t matter in the sound quality, give it a try and see which combination you like best! Happy New Year!
@@Tharbamar you being experience person, you might have already checked these different combinations. so thought of seeking your input based on your observations. please
I used to use the Blue Jeans but now switched over to QED Performance Audio 40i. The difference was obvious enough on my Adam Tensor Delta Speakers using hegel hd30 dac to micromega as-400 amp. The QED is more open & detailed on top end and it was obvious enough for me. Although I think lot of ppl might prefer the smoother sound of Blue Jeans.
The Mogami Gold you are using, is it the Mogami 2964 ?
Thank you
Is the Mogami No Compromise RCA cable as good as the Mogami Gold RCA cable ?
Love your good cables advice. Be getting your recommended cables.
I just bought some bulk Belden cable based on your videos. I'm looking forward to making my on rca interconnects. Thanks for your advice.
Very good cables.
After trying some more expensive cables (RCA and speaker) mostly TQ Ultra Black line up, I have the exact same experience. Pro cables are genuinely neutral in their delivery they portray how your components sound. The more expensive cables use different allows and constructions, multi strands or different exotic materials that increase conductivity etc and different isolators to just give some additional colour in detail, or more pronounced bass etc. I actually like that in my desktop system because you are sitting very close to the speakers and you benefit from every bit of extra soundstage, because there is limited room interactions. In my living room (main system), however I prefer the “Pro” cables because otherwise it imbalances my already balanced system. So with everything it really depends. Put your money in components and clean power supply components first. Upgraded power supply in my experience reduces noise and not so much sound. It is a well upgrade of the system. I use also pro for that, Furutech The Empire.
Thanks for sharing.
i had QED Graphite which are good cables but a little bottom heavy at times. i had a pair made up recently with Van Damme locap 55 guitar cable with WBT style plugs, altogether cost the same as the QED cable did but they blow them out of the water, they're as good s a cable costing 10x what the QEDs did
Grea vid,I have a Question,I have made my own RCA cables for Technics Turntables for years, typical white Red connection from the PCB Board to two connectors White Red all good,one Day I've decided to Make my own RCA,male to male for plug and unplug RCA Turntables,they worked Both Directions fine,the problem is that,I've tried to build more and now they don't work at all,same cables same connectors and I don't even remember what I did the first time to make them Work Both Directions! Any help?
The blue jeans rca cables make a lot of hum on my system.
6:38 “Honesty is the last thing you will find in this industry” Amen!!
An inexpensive alternative is the Kimber KCAG with WBT-0110 AG Nextgen connectors
Great Video! No Baloney real life experience about what counts and what doesn't for sound quality.
My opinion as a pro musician with hifi experience. Any cable is a filter. A signal cannot come out better it went in a cables. Parameters are used to give a cable an own sound. You can play with that to fine tune your equipment.
Sometimes a little more high will give you the best result at the end. Sometimes the mid and sometimes the low tones.
Also your room acoustics is doing something. It's all about the total/final match. A lot of people are not able to hear theses differences, be happy! I also build a few cables with Belden, Canare and Mogami. They do their work pretty good. By the way, if a cable sounds different is that better? And what is better. You also need a rather expensive (read very good) hifi system do hear these differences. Lets say 10.000-20.000 dollar/euro. Off course salesmen make a lot of money selling expensive cables. Explain to me what "wonder" material can be inside a cable. Nothing! Always use your own ears and listen blind. Let someone else change cables while your listening. Don't forget it is a macho mann world. Yes, I am able to that differences. Congrats. Stay with both feet on the ground. Rember, the soundquality of records can give many differences. A lot of salesmen hate me, because I spoil their income. But I don't care and don't ly. Finally, I know a reviewer very well. He once had the Walhalla interconnect. His system sounded fantastic. Are we listening to all Walhalla cables now? The sound is great! No I build all cables by myself, he said. He just found out what is inside famous cables and makes his own copy's. I have the same now. I pay him 100 dollar/euro for an interconnect and a little more for the speaker cables. I don't even wanna know what's inside. Have fun.
@Tharbamar Very cool videos for helping people make their own cables! And the result looks perfect to me! Well done.
@tharbamar
What is the model code for mogami gold? Seems to have a lot of different type.
I want to DIY rca cables from it 😊
Hi, did anyone ever try out Mogami 2497 and 2803, maybe with Klei connectors, how would that compare to combinations with Neutrik Profi connectors, Mogami 2534 and 2549 cable?
I had pretty much all cables made by Mogami my favorite is 2549 for absolute transparency.
@@Tharbamar Thank you!!! By your advice I bought 3104 speaker cables and they are just amazing. You think Neutrik Profi connectors are good enough or should I look for something else? Witchcraft (all black) are not available in Europe at this time. BTW, I love your channel!!! It is very special. Don't waste your time on 'haters', not worth it.
BTW, my sistem is all Marantz. LS-85 speakers, PM-94 amp, HD DAC-1 dac.
@@JR-dr2ro Thank you, I would suggest you to try Viborg connectors, which is better than most and as good as WBT plugs. amzn.to/3TOgMSD
Thank you! Viborg (VR109 and VR109G, which are their cheapest available in Europe) are twice as expensive (80 to 85 eur=usd) compared to Neutrik Profi (40 eur=usd) and cost as much as Klei Harmony copper and Harmony silver (80 and 100 eur=usd) which are supposed to be reference besides Klei Harmony Pure22 (140 eur=usd). Dilemmas, dilemmas... Bulk wires (most popular from Mogami, Canare, ...) are cheap, connectors expensive... I hoped Neutrik Profi would be a perfect compromise between price and SQ. BTW, I watched you Focal Sopra 2 review many times, because of my small room I abandoned my hopes of them and opted for old Marantz LS-85. Your channel saves money and bring (SQ) happiness.
Thomas...what is your take on using mundorf silver solder on your connections?...more of a solid connection that doesn't loosen?
I no longer use them because they don't last in my RCA cables.
@@Tharbamar
not silver wire...i'm talking about soldering your conections, like your banana plugs, spades, or any other connectors when making up DIY cables?...I purchased some mundorf 10% silver solder to solder my connectors together...while i'm making cables like in your DIY videos...Canare 4S11 for my mains...
@@Tharbamar
what doesn't last?
@@briancampbell7712 solder contact keep breaking because I do plugging in and out often.
Is Mogami W3082 more detailed than Canarie 4S11...I have two yahmaha M2 amps and bi amping spendor s100 that have 3 posts on each speaker I'm presently using canarie 4s11 bi-wired to one amp mids on speaker A posts and highs on speaker B posts and the Lows are being fed with the other amp on Speaker A...just wondering if the mogami w3082 would have more detail than canarie 4s11...i don't mind running 3 seperate sets of wires two from one amp speakerA&B and lows from other yahmaha m2
I make my own from low inductance cable , they sound fine and cost me about £20 , installed in a system that wasnt cheap
Super impressed with your Hi-quality work and detailed info! please can you record a video for (3.5mm audio to RCA - (Analog to Digital)
I have pretty much all Mogami cables, 2549, 2534, 2964, 2497, 2803. Besides 2549, all the others sound good in different ways. Your gold 2534 is a great choice, but IMO sounds a bit too similar to your L-4E6S.
@HugoJ-je2ks pushing 30
Are the outside screw on jacket & spring that surround the center pin really gold plated like the pin?
Or is it brass?
13:26 what is the model number of the cable?
and connectors please?
Please see video description because it’s been a while, thanks
@@Tharbamar the ones that u said are your favorite im talking about Mogami old?
@@Tharbamar doesnt say.. maybe Mogami W2549 or Mogami W2497 ?
not written on the cable?
The 590s and now this. You are my brother from another mother! I bought a used Evergreen USB and jitterbug from AQ and once my system was assembled I called BS in that stuff. The BJC interconnects totally floored me compared to my "good" cheap RCAs. Then Mogami Studio Gold XLR. I had 30yo Monster speaker cables that I replaced because my buddy gave me grief, the BJC white ten was no better, except for the connector, but I'm already regretting not getting spades at one end.
Thanks Brother.
Hello , very very good video! I have a question- is it Mogami 3237 good choice for RCA ??
Your content has outstanding qualoty, keep it up! I think most people can agree that some of your videos are too long.. heres my idea:
you could make the short and long version, by this people can get educated quicker and people who want details can watch the long version
Keep it up, all love ❤️
What’s the best subwoofer cable? Can I get one in Mogami w3104?
Good point, i always looked for cheap professional amp's and dac's, but cables make the most sense..
PS the video is too long, still glad i saw it whole.
I will try to make it shorter next time, Thanks
@@Tharbamar I have a serious question. I saw you did not use two different runs of Mogami Gold . Did you just split the wires 2 and 2? And how did you isolate them, some kind of shielding or shrink wrap around them or? I am building a gaming PC and have limited space inside so I liked the idea of splitting one cable in two RCAs. Thank you in advance for your answer.
Do any of these cables come in male to female (extension) version? Also, do they come with ground cables, is that necessary? I need to extend my turntable rca which is TOO short. Thanks and great video!
Chord interconnects are the ones I've actually heard an improvement with..chord crimson vee 3 and the chord clearway
Falcon Cables - my favourite. It is a non-fancy pro audio cable. In just a glance you will notice that it is way ahead in quality than Belden. The copper looks very clean and pure in Falcon. The insulation is also highly durable. The dealer said it is made to withstand tramps of the entire crowd if laid through the ground.
ANY TIME you see Pro Audio on anything. Run fast
Also %98 of the time you see
Remastered. Run faster
@@twochaudiomg2578Did you watch the video? He said pro audio is more honest than the audiophile industry. The problem with audiophile cables is that the specs are usually not published. Pro audio cables like Belden, Mogami, Canare have already been thoroughly tested and they publish the specs. The smaller mom and pop cable companies unfortunately lean towards snake oil. I refuse to buy any cable that does not publish their specs
Hi. I'm trying to find the cable that is your favorite. The 3rd cable on the video, but when I hit the links, they don't look the same. I believe you said Mogami, but the cable on the link has a different connecter. How good is the connecter on the amazon link for Mogami?
Hi, it’s been a while, they might have change the design, thanks
Hi man, in your opinion regarding the Canare l4e6s or mogami w2045 cables still the same today or is there any other model today that you think is better? thx!
I’m still using them even though I have much more expensive newer cables from different brands.
Hey Tharbamar! Where did you get that cool looking braiding for the canare cable? It's a nice pearlescent color!
Anyone saying cables don't matter, have never tested or didn't have the money to try different cables in a good system...I can attest to how good Ortofon Reference Red RCA Interconnect is between preamp and amplifier... I tried the Chord Silver Plus because it works well between my Copland cda 288 cd player and pre amp...so i tried replacing my Ortofon Red from pre amp to amp with the Chord Silver Plus...NOT near as good as my Ortofon Red RCA was...so of course switched it back...now I am wondering and thinking of trying the level up from Red to Blue or Black Ortofon RCA cables...has anyone tried the different Otofon RCA Cables to help me decide ❓
Can you please make a video of making XRL balanced cable?
I will do that when I’m not too busy, thanks
at 3:16 classic line example......"easier than making pancake"
really liked the audio stand you had the parasound on. would like you to reference the name brand of that stand(manufacturer) where to buy? (if still available)
very informative!! thanks
It was custom made stands, thanks
Can be used the component cable as a RCA audio cable?If not why?
Cable does make a big differences, if you already but a cow, why not spend a little bit of money to buy the string to hold the cow nicely?
OUTSTANDING!!! THANK YOU...
mogami 2534 vs 2549 rac which is beater sound quality?
Personally I like 2549 more, thanks
thank you
I like you boss, you’re honest. Thank you for your sound advice. I will soon DIY my speaker cables using Canare 4s11.
Thank you, here is my video of
Making High Quality Speaker Cables with Canare 4S11
ruclips.net/video/snLExbyIJto/видео.html
Great video, very honest I like that but I'm confused on th Mogami. The link to the video description takes you to the Mogami Gold for digital connection which are sold individually not as pairs. Are you recommending a digital cable for stereo? And in your responses to comments here you name 2945 and W3003, this later is a speaker cable. Which Mogami were you referring for stereo Interconnects?
What do you think of the belden 8402 with the switchcraft 3502 connecters?
That is very good combination.
I appreciate your honesty Tharbamar!
please tell me the best Canare or Magomi cable with 3 wires to use for Rel Subwoofer Speakon Neutrik connector and the other end has 3 wires going to R/L positive and Black either negative...So I need a Canare or mogami cable with 3 wires...what should I get??
As far as I know Mogami or Canare don't make 3 conductor cables for speaker or sub connection, may be you can buy REL cables.
@@Tharbamar
If you were building DIY cables for a Rel subwoofer...what wires would you select?...maybe you should do a video on that build...
@@briancampbell7712 I use Canare 4S8, Yeah I should make one DIY sub cable video, Thanks for the advice.
@@Tharbamar 👍🏼thx
@@Tharbamar
for Rel it only takes 3 wires...4S8 are 4 conductors...do you use 2 of them for negative and 1 for right positive and 1 for left positive?
fantastic stuff! Cheers mate !!
You're right it's a lot of snake oil on the business blind test is the best option
Hi Tharbamar, I bought a Mogami W2964. It sound neutral, witha good bass prominence. Buttoo much soundstage narrowing, less holography than Tasker RG59 Bu (1€/m) and VDH the wave (19€/m) or QED Performance. Which Mogami/canare digital one that offering a big, deep and holographyc soundstage, do you suggest?
Hi, I do not use any digital cables from Mogami or Canare, All my digital cables are Oyaide cables, thanks
amazing, this bloke can hear the difference between silver and copper cable.
WHAT ABOUT SHIELDING ?
The main reason why I purchased expensive cables, sub leads etc was for the extra shielding! I cannot put up with any kind of unwanted noise (radio frequencies) so therefore if you can recommend any kind reasonable priced cables which has good shielding.... I'm all ears!
Here is one I made, ruclips.net/video/E1E7Olxsocw/видео.html
I totally agree with you. Trust your ears and watch your wallet. There are so many myths in the audiophile world.
There are so many bad people and companies in the audiophile world,
@Larry Niles A lot of snakeoil audio companies are trying to screw gullible consumers. You're the one bitching here bud.
One of my favorite cables is the Dimarzio M Path. Not because of the sound but because of the excellent build quality and it’s hard to find since it’s no longer made. Dimarzio still makes guitar cables and they are outstanding and less than $50. Good bargains actually
Very good video. Congratulations. Very clear. I will think to do that. What do you think of the Absolute AW400? I have 10 meters offered for purchase. I'm thinking of buying. is it worth it? Best regards e thank you very much.
I do not have experience with Absolute cables, thanks
@@Tharbamar Thanks for the answer. I think I'm going to test the Absolute cable. The price is good. I really appreciate your tips and teachings in hi-end audio. Congratulations again.
Just buy canare gs-4 ou gs-6 with canare connector, solder them yourself you will have a superb sound! We use it on stage and in studio
Hello my friend.
what mogami cable model is?
Thnaks.
Mogami w3104.
I saw something on another channel and I think he boiled it down to 2 key points. A cable can't add anything to the signal (unless it causes equipment to start oscillating). A cable can only take something away be it highs or lows.
In y opinion you want reasonably low inductance and capacitance. You want low resistance and that requires very good quality copper. The connectors should grip the equipment very well and the material should be tarnish free.
I upgraded my "new" Oehlbach cables which were good with the Magami cables based on this review and testing.It was expensive for me, but totally worth it. The increase in fine detail plus a more neutral and less harsh sound . Budget Oelbach cables were detailed but a bit harsh on my system. I will now only buy Magami cables.
Great video ........ And it seems you've come to the same conclusion I have 😉👍
Mogami
Sorry to bug you. What r your thoughts regarding balanced rca cables? Do you have a video making balanced rca directional cables?
the mogami gold are mogami 2964 cables, is there any particular reason for them being more expensive than non ¨gold¨ model branded ones? the gold are usually double that of the normal 2964
The connectors make it a higher price than bulk wires that comes without connectors. Marketing and packaging are also different because bulk wire sales in rolls 50 - 100 meters make more cheap compared to 1 - 5 meters Mogami Gold.
I always make DIY RCA cable myself with 2964 and a cheap RCA connector from Nakamichi.
Good comments, have you try or have comments on Cardas speaker cables and interconnects.
Thank you man 👍
Wonderful video BTW. Which coax cable do you recommend and can I use a pro grade RCA cable instead?
Thank you!
Would appreciate a video on DIY audiophile XLR cables.
Yes I will, thanks
Hi Tharbamar! Can I apply Mogami Gold RCA for auto to connect audio processor with amflier? thanks
The "change in sound" of each of these cables is related to their impedance. The end result between cable A and cable B depends on the impedance of the send / receive interfaces + the cable. Buying an expensive cable doesn't necessarily translates into a better sound. In the HiFi world, there is often placebo effect... So trust your ears and choose what you like, not necessarily what the seller/dealer wants to sell you! Don't be fooled by "High Speed", "3D" and all other meaningless words!
Thank you for a very nice review🙏🙏
is there too much of a difference between the mogami and the blue jeans?
In some sense yes, but the difference are primary via software recording not real human.
Which Mogami gold cable is the one you recommend? Is it W2964? Have you ever tried W2497 (platinum) model?
I use all their cables, 2497 is very good, clean, super quiet and without coloration.
It might not fit in small RCA connector housing. I use it with Canare F-10 or Mogami 7553.
@@Tharbamar Thank you for your quick response. I will order some parts and wait for your diy interconnect tutorial:)
Tharbamar where do you get Mogami platinum by the foot? Everything I'm seeing comes with 1/4" connectors on it.....
redco is good place to get them.
@@Tharbamar In Europe there is audiophonics.fr(france) and audiocables.eu(greece) not cheap as Redco though. Do you have any other recommendations where to shop for?
Is that a Kimber plant?
Do you use only one brand of interconnects throughout your entire system or .. have you mixed interconnects from the the different manufacturers you like?
I had many different cables in the past up to $2k and in the end I preferred Mogami, Belden, Canare.
@@Tharbamar Yes, of course. My question is: Do you mix and match the different brands into your system to use simultaneously ... at the same time? Will you use say ..the Mogami for one DAC connection to your pre but also simultaneously use the Belden to connect a second component or ..
Are you consistant with one brand at one time? 🤔💣💥👊👍🍸🥩🥗🥔🍷🍰☕
finally someone which say how it is, just make them yourself or let ik make by someone which make them for little money
I’m just wondering what mogami cable are you using. Is it the 2549, 2534, 2803, or 2552.? By the way, what is that retractable connector that you use for the Blue Jean cable? Where did you buy it? Thanks.
I’m using 2549 and 2534, connectors are NeutriK ProFi RCA plugs: amzn.to/2SFYS6W
Tharbamar Thanks for the quick response. I have the Wharfedale D225. Unfortunately, I’m not getting the full potential of that speaker. I just can’t make it to sing with just power coming from an AVR. So I bought the vintage Adcom GFA-555 II power amp which is now connected to the receiver preamp. So I know the next step is to buy a decent interconnect cable. So I suddenly remembered your guide to buying cables video and started watching it again. That’s why I started asking these questions. I know you prefer the ProFi connector, but if I’m not ready to do a DIY which one of these connectors do you prefer Neutrik Rean, Nakamichi, or Amphenol with Mogami gold cable? My other option is to go with BJ LC-1 or with Canare L-4E6S with Amphenol connector. Thanks again.
Tharbamar Can you use these following cable AudioQuest VDM-1 Digital Coax and AudioQuest VDM-X Digital Coax use as interconnects from AVR pre out to power amp?
@@luisdaniloancheta2823 Yes you can use them .
@@Tharbamar didn't you say "Mogami Gold"?
Nice and informative video. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Question about the interconnect cabels:
Do they work in car audio, too? Or would you choose other cables?
It will work but check with manufacturers for proper rating and safety, thanks
@@Tharbamar WOW. instant answer. Thank you again. See you on RUclips.
I made my own cables with solid silver, cost me around $65 for a 1 meter pair....Also the Mogami W2549 also sounds great too for DIY
Nice! Even when/if u go wireless in the future, you can at anytime sell the silver by weight... could possibly be for a profit.
I have done this too. I used Furutech RCA connectors and they work just fine.
Mogami W2549 sounds quite neutral but I still like my XLO's more which the way it twisted is unique.
Great video! Thank you
Tharbamar thanks for you video. I odered mogami gold rca for my car audio. Price is good for them. I hope sound will be better. Now I have sinfoni cables.
Did you make a video how to make the Mogami cables? I’ve seen the one when you make two separate cables, I was interested in the one you are holding where the entire cable is in one sheath. Thank you
Try hi-fidelity cables, do a review on their magnetic conduction...
You'll never need anything that you believe is better than a recording studio.
Which cables come at mostly less than 10 bucks a meter on a roll.
Now if you wish to pay a bit extra for a bit more fancy connectors, thats all fine.
I do this occationally aswell, but paying say 50 bucks or more for connectors
alone is foolery. All people who does the ABX fails, because they can no longer
rely on their placebo.
well said. This snake oil BS is what pisses me off the most about the HiFi world. these companies are basically robbing people blind.