$30 Audiophile Grade RCA Interconnects, DIY Better Sounding High Quality Cables

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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Комментарии • 419

  • @SgtHenick
    @SgtHenick 4 года назад +34

    A freaking visor sun glasses holder... It's so brilliant. It literally makes me mad. I didn't think of it first.

  • @M1GHT_is_R1GHT
    @M1GHT_is_R1GHT 11 месяцев назад +3

    I got tired of having excess cables for my home theater system, and wanted to make my own. I used this video and am now kicking myself for not finding this channel… the cables I made sound better than $150 king cobra cables I bought. Excellent video my friend

  • @Deepsouth34
    @Deepsouth34 3 года назад +11

    WOW, Tharbamar!! So you’ll probably never see this but I just made these exact RCA cables plus the Mogami speaker wires in your other vid. I waited until both sets were done, played my gear with the old amazon interconnects and 2002 monster cable, immediately swapped to my new hand made cables leaving all volume and sound settings the same. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! Playing a Marantz 2265b and Hafler DH220 on Klipsch Hereseys using Tidal from my iPad through a Schiit Modi DAC. Not sure if it’s that combo or if it’s the vintage gear that really brings out the difference or what, but I’m totally blown away. MOST. HELPFUL. VIDEO. EVER!! I owe you one!! I’m making my dad and sister sets for Christmas now.

  • @zeusodin581
    @zeusodin581 2 года назад +2

    I just finishing making this cable. I used Mogami W2534 and Neutrik ProFi Locking RCA plugs. Wow Amazing. Crystal clear audio with completely silent background. Thank you so much!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 года назад

      Awesome! Thanks for sharing.

  • @jajessee
    @jajessee 5 лет назад +28

    Sir, You are doing everyone a great service. Thank-you for this and other tutorials. You have so much credibility given the sound demos you put up. If you can pass your test then it must be quality...

  • @leroykencaid8992
    @leroykencaid8992 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for this video. It got me on a journey. And what I ended up with is quite the opposite: shield soldered to ground on source end, but no shield on amp end.

  • @IllinoisGoy
    @IllinoisGoy Год назад +2

    I made the same rig and it works perfect as the extra hand. This method is so easy to apart to and am to sound great as long as you keep it clean with no stray ground whiskers

    • @armandpantaleon9337
      @armandpantaleon9337 10 месяцев назад

      What is that holder thingy he used to hold the cable in place while soldering ?

  • @RamytRamyt
    @RamytRamyt 4 года назад +7

    This video is great. The calmness of your voice, and the detail of your method actually makes me think I can do this myself. We shall see... haha! Thank you!

  • @antonio9595
    @antonio9595 Год назад +3

    Thank you very much for your advice and tell us about your experiences. A couple of weeks ago I made my own patch cables using Canare F-10 RCA connectors and MOGAMI Neglex w2549 shielded cable, which has two wires and a shield, the outer diameter is 6mm, perfect for the RCA CANARE F-10. According to the data sheet, the resistance, capacitance and inductance values are practically identical to the w2543 cable. I joined the two wires and soldered them to the center pin that I insulated with heat shrink tubing and then wrapped the mesh around the heat shrink and crimped with the RCA connector jaws. To finish, I have placed a second heat shrink that isolates all the contacts. The change has been noticeable, the sound is cleaner, sharper in the mid/high frequencies. I have added red and white heat shrink to your proposal to differentiate the L and R channels.

  • @Vic7645
    @Vic7645 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for this fabulous tutorial! I just made my first interlink cable set, exactly according to your instructions. You are a true inspirator.

  • @centinel6505
    @centinel6505 4 года назад +7

    Thank you for the tutorial Sir! Now I have a new project. A couple of weeks ago I saw your diy speaker cable video, and last weekend I made my own. I enjoyed very much doing my own cables, and they not only helped my system sound way much better, they also look great! All the best.

  • @drumbyte
    @drumbyte 6 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful presentation, it's refreshing to see someone not drowning everything in solder... :)

  • @robertnitsche8410
    @robertnitsche8410 4 года назад +8

    You inspired me to make my own RCA interconnects using Canare L-4E6S Star Quad cable and Paillics locking RCA plugs. They sound much better than the Audioquest Diamondbacks I was using.

    • @robertnitsche8410
      @robertnitsche8410 Год назад

      @ Harry Harriman I'm using them in and out of a Schiit Mani 2 phono preamp. The Diamondbacks were a little too sibilant and the soundstage was narrower.

  • @mikecees2230
    @mikecees2230 5 лет назад +5

    I've been using the Switchcraft/Belden cables for a few years now. It basically ended my cable swapping habit. I also use the same Switchcraft connectors with twisted pair Duelund wire. Equally good with a more minimalist look. These recipes first appeared on another audiophile blog a while back. I know of at least one prospering cable manufacturer who slips the Belden/SC combo in a braided sleeve, rebrands it and sells it with a very hefty markup. Just goes to show you...

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  5 лет назад +1

      Mike, I grown up in Japan and I'm using these methods even before anyone one knows publicly. I like both cables in my system but I might preferred Mogami C-Type for richer and quieter sound signature.

    • @mikecees2230
      @mikecees2230 5 лет назад +1

      @@Tharbamar Makes sense, the fellow that posted the recipe on the blog I was referring to is also Japanese. I'm using a pair of Mogami ICs (not DIY) for the audio out on my BluRay player. Can't remember the model number. Will check later, it's too hot for me to go crawling in back of my gear right now.

    • @brunorivademar5356
      @brunorivademar5356 4 года назад

      I've been reading about the Belden switchcraft combo. Even Jim Smith reccomends them. What are your toughts on these?

  • @Edisson.
    @Edisson. 8 месяцев назад +2

    Hi, it's been a long time, but in the comments it was said several times that the shielding should be connected only on one side, but no one explained properly why it should be done that way and what advantage it has.
    This connection system is taken from the studio equipment when connected by XLR which is connected by three wires 1-GND; 2-positive signal; 3 negative signal - if any interference is induced on the route to the cable connected in this way, it will affect both the positive and negative wires, in the target device these two signals will merge again and thus the induced hums will be canceled - this connection works at very long distances. Our home devices mainly use RCA connectors (cinch) where we only have a combined signal on the center pin - to reduce the interference of such connections (it only works for short distances) the so-called directional connection of cables is used - we need a shielded cable with two inner wires - one of the wires connect the active pin, on the signal side (e.g. CD player) connect the second wire and shielding to the external contact (GND), connect only the second wire to the external contact at the connector on the signal output side! we terminate the shielding so that it cannot touch this external contact.
    The shielding must therefore always be on the side of the signal source! never the other way around!
    Cables are also sold that have directly printed arrows between the text indicating the type of cable (I always connect cables that do not have arrows so that the direction of the signal corresponds to the direction of the text).
    How does it actually work - if a disturbing signal is induced on the cable connected in this way, it is on the shield in antiphase with the GND wire and it is partially canceled - tested in practice and it works - I have not only all the cables of my HI-FI connected this way, but also the test cables used in audio equipment repairs where there is a lot of interference at the workplace.
    I always recommend GND soldering
    Nice day 🙂 Tom

    • @boydsargeant7496
      @boydsargeant7496 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Tom. Are you saying for home RCA short run usage connect the shield to ground at one end, that end being used for the source, ie CD, other end for Amp? Ta.

    • @Edisson.
      @Edisson. 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@boydsargeant7496 Yes, the other end where the shielding of the cable is not connected is intended for a device that processes the signal, it can be the amplifier you mentioned, or a mixing console or, as in my case, a direct input to a tape deck. Shielding is always connected at the signal source.

    • @boydsargeant7496
      @boydsargeant7496 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks!

  • @77Brainfreeze
    @77Brainfreeze 4 года назад +19

    The sunglasses holder to clamp the wire is genius!

    • @gilbertvonlanthen8709
      @gilbertvonlanthen8709 3 года назад

      That's what this is,I know I seen this gadget

    • @joshgross8741
      @joshgross8741 3 года назад

      Yea so dope. I want to see if I have one now!!

    • @garrettgiuffre7298
      @garrettgiuffre7298 3 года назад

      I verbatim said the same thing. So using it. Yay no more damaged wires trying to clamp it

    • @garrettgiuffre7298
      @garrettgiuffre7298 3 года назад

      Those bonsai scissors?

    • @joshgross8741
      @joshgross8741 3 года назад

      @@garrettgiuffre7298 I may have snipped the cable a tiny bit, I was going willy nilly. But yea small fiskars would work, and take your time. I enjoyed making the cables and it does not need to be rushed.

  • @seans1102
    @seans1102 4 года назад +4

    I made a pair of these for my dac in 3 foot length and man did they make an improvement from my generic 17 foot rca cable. The sound is more open and the highs are better on my system noticeable right off the bat. Thanks for the tutorial.

  • @charliefinlow665
    @charliefinlow665 3 года назад +2

    first of all love the content i thought it was amazing, then when i saw everything was readily available with free shipping and similiar price to the us while being from the uk was mindblowing. you dont get this stuff with the likes of keyboard cables

  • @drdelewded
    @drdelewded 3 года назад +7

    Tip... Put the connecter shell, spring and heat shrink on the cable, before doing all the stripping.. will save you hassle of getting them on after

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      @hendrixharvey6506 3 года назад

      @Otis Luciano i really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now.
      Looks like it's gonna take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.

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      @hendrixharvey6506 3 года назад

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      @otisluciano6368 3 года назад

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  • @DyeHard79
    @DyeHard79 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice using the car visor sunglasses clip for cable hand I picked up a helping hand at a yard sale it has 4 aligator clips on adjustable arms and a stainless cup for water or solder sponge they can be expensive though

  • @bryfar6178
    @bryfar6178 3 года назад +1

    Industrial instrumentation cable only has one end of shield connected to common of the receiving end for best shielding. This explains arrows on high end connectors that this guy showed in another vid but didn't know why.

  • @IvicaMarusevic
    @IvicaMarusevic 3 года назад +9

    You should try leaving one side of the shield floating. I prefer it better that way

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 3 года назад

      Which side do you float?

    • @IvicaMarusevic
      @IvicaMarusevic 3 года назад +5

      @@ChicagoRob2 One side 😊 and you turn it as needed. Usually I find it best to be tied on the source side and floating on the receiving end.

    • @PokeAmp
      @PokeAmp 3 года назад +2

      Floating it makes it a one direction cable from what I know

    • @tommusikauswahl1066
      @tommusikauswahl1066 6 дней назад

      When "floating", then the connected sid is always the giving side (Sackschirmung). Its a very old German Technique.

  • @fletchermunson6225
    @fletchermunson6225 4 года назад +2

    Te cables I made from this wire and 8412 were every rolled off and bottom heavy. I used them to poser my subwoofers. I used Canare F10 RCAs and Wonder Solder. I tried the 3103 speaker cables from Mogami and they were fine.

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 7 месяцев назад

      Use Mogami 2549, one wire hot, one wire return, with the shield connected only at the source. Then take all your other cables and throw them in the garbage.

    • @crherniman
      @crherniman 4 месяца назад

      ​​​@@ChicagoRob2 (edited because I misunderstood)I'm pretty new to this level of audio equipment but I can easily build cables. I have a CAT S1 black path and Music Reference RM-9. Would the 2549 be acceptable for a 12ft length? I just want to be sure to do it right the first time. Also, What RCA terminal do you recommend?

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 4 месяца назад

      @@crherniman No problem running 12’. Use Neutric Rean RCA connectors: NYS352G for positive, and NYS352BG for negative. Get them at Performance Audio. Cheap, but very high quality.

  • @marketwarriorfx
    @marketwarriorfx Год назад +1

    I love it, you are awesome and your video has helped me! I would like to share with you a tip I have learned along the way. If you have nitrile gloves on when you make your cables, you wont get any skin oil on your cable insides. Thanks again brother and cheers!

  • @benbirtle1286
    @benbirtle1286 2 года назад +2

    This is such a great video. I've made one set of the Belden so far and tested them on two systems, both with Naim amps. The Supernait 2 and XS 3. PMC speakers and Neat speakers. Both systems have the Blusound Node. It's such a vast improvement over some top name interconnects, including Chord and Rega. The dynamic range is superior and the sound is richer. If you're looking for more of a "3d sound" then I'd recommend giving this a try. I will probably give the speaker cable video a try at some point but it's harder to find that cable in the UK for some reason. Thanks for your expert instructions on how to make these.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 года назад +1

      My pleasure. Thanks for sharing.

    • @keithmoriyama5421
      @keithmoriyama5421 Год назад +2

      As a professional sound engineer with 35 years of experience using millions of dollars in equipment... I have never heard all of the glorious improvements in sound stage, imaging, fluid detail -- whatever that means.
      I should be worried but, all of my counterparts have never heard it either. Believe me... we hear a lot of things.

  • @derbigpr500
    @derbigpr500 5 лет назад +6

    The one issue of not soldering the ground and just folding it over the cable and then crimping over is that you're putting wires between the rubber cable jacket and the metal crimp part of the connector, so when you crimp the connector, it's not gripping on tightly onto the rubber cable jacket, but is instead holding onto the "slippery" metal. I mean you can imagine the difference in grip levels between two metal pieces in contact and a metal in contact with rubber. This way only your signal wire is actually really solidly connected on both ends. It's all fine if nobody ever pulls on the cable violently. I always solder the ground as well, and then use a shrink tube with glue, so that it actually shrinks and glues everything together. That way you have no issue of breaking the cable at the connector, since you have the signal wire soldered, ground wires soldered, shrink tube glued on and the crimp holding everything together.

    • @falcon048
      @falcon048 3 года назад

      My question would be if there was any audible significance by not soldering the ground vs crimping the ground. I know Audioquest tries to steer clear of using solder and prefers machine crimped cold welds.

  • @joshmartin8856
    @joshmartin8856 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for your knowledge! I ordered a roll of Mogami W2534 and 40 Neutrik plugs for way cheaper than I could get a handful of decent interconnects, and I know they will be the right length for my audio project. Awesome!

  • @dannybulian7256
    @dannybulian7256 4 года назад +3

    Your soldering station is brilliant!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 года назад

      Thanks

    • @ericscott769
      @ericscott769 4 года назад

      What clamp are you using for your soldering station please?

    • @gilbertsoliman1618
      @gilbertsoliman1618 4 года назад

      @@ericscott769 I think it's an eyeglass holder/clip.

  • @youngsun6617
    @youngsun6617 10 месяцев назад

    4 year old video and still a great video. Good job man thanks for the video

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @favorit601
    @favorit601 4 года назад +6

    I always recommend connecting the shield on only one side. The side has to be marked. Connected side goes to preamp.

    • @billycaves7194
      @billycaves7194 3 года назад

      How come?

    • @KonradSkowronski
      @KonradSkowronski Год назад

      What if you don't have preamp but just DAC and AMP? Not shielded goes to DAC? What are benefits of having one side not shielded? Today I spoke to my repair guy, he is making custom soldered cables and he said it doesn't make sens.

    • @Edisson.
      @Edisson. 8 месяцев назад

      @@KonradSkowronski Tell the repairman to think or go back to school, I added a separate comment explaining how the directional cable works.
      Nice day 🙂 Tom

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@KonradSkowronski “Directional” cables with the shield connected at the source and “floating “ at the other end are more transparent and open sounding than a cable constructed with the Japanese method. I’ve been building my own cables for 45 years and the directional method is a better sounding solution that can easily be heard. I’ve conducted hundreds of real-world comparisons and every listener, regardless of background, has chosen the directional cable as superior in every way.

    • @KonradSkowronski
      @KonradSkowronski 7 месяцев назад

      Sorry it's psychoacoustics only. @@Edisson. Can you give me real proves like scientistic data of frequency response etc?

  • @marcellusmilton6296
    @marcellusmilton6296 5 лет назад +5

    This is a very enjoyable and informative video. I can"t wait to make some of those cables for my system.

  • @toksandman
    @toksandman Год назад +1

    Thank you for the best instructional video on making cables

  • @nyxsplitter7168
    @nyxsplitter7168 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you for tutorials.Your video will help a lot of us music enthusiasts.

  • @robertkemper8835
    @robertkemper8835 6 месяцев назад

    Suggestion: Test the continuity before sealing with shrink wrap...just in case. It has saved me more than once.

  • @SpikeoutBattleStreet
    @SpikeoutBattleStreet 5 лет назад +1

    Just ordered
    1) 0.7m of mogami 2534 pre built with Neutrik plugs.
    2) 3m of Mogami 3104 speaker cable.
    3) 5m of Canare 4S8G speaker cable.
    4) Almit KR-19RMA soldering iron.
    for my Mid-Fi and Lo-Fi at a total of 9,000Yens only shipping to my city. Have high hope of them😄.
    PS: I don't buy banana plugs because I can reuse my QED Screwloc and Audioquest Suregrip 100 by cutting out some of the wires at the ends.

  • @frankabarca9189
    @frankabarca9189 3 года назад +1

    I love you videos you are an amazing guy honesty is King God bless

  • @ashtonmurch2142
    @ashtonmurch2142 5 лет назад +4

    Tharbamar have you tried only soldering one side of the braided shield to one end and leave the other braided end disconnected? This is another method and you attach the connected side to the source of your equipment such as the DAC. Apparently it offers better noise rejection, something called a "Faraday cage" when you do it this way.

    • @SpikeoutBattleStreet
      @SpikeoutBattleStreet 5 лет назад +2

      This is the way many cable makers do.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  5 лет назад +3

      Yes,I have done that many times and I like the my C-Type & J-Type more than any method I tried.

  • @luminousfractal420
    @luminousfractal420 Год назад +1

    Tried mogami for headphones but they dont offer the clarity of silver cable, and silver cable is so direct and crisp in its sound you need to use gold on the negative. Combine those two and youve got an amazing quality sound. I picked up a used set of single crystal silver cables ($30), i have a set of gold plated ofc ($30), and ive ordered 2m of gold filled copper cable (actual gold layer fused to a copper core ($20 for 2m). Im going to run a length of silver and the gold plated ofc as the positive and the gold filled alongside the remaining silver as the negative. Using cotton shoelaces (2mm) and a layer of shrink wrap to protect the cables. And terminated in mini aviation sockets. About $110 overall. You wont find a pro set of equal quality under the 10k mark. More money than sense.
    Btw found soviet airforce comunications wire for aircraft (pure single crystal silver) for dirt cheap on bthe bay, great sound out of that but its very stiff cable, no good for my headphones but for interconnects it could be perfect...and its very cheap

  • @crazymetallian
    @crazymetallian Год назад

    thanks for sharing BTW, if you are doin' it alone you can also use ruberband in nose and mechanical pliers so you can easily and cheaply convert them into crab pincers, i do it all the time
    also, using silver solder would be propper for high end

  • @joshgross8741
    @joshgross8741 3 года назад +1

    I got so excited I ordered all the wires and parts and I have no clue what is going on anymore. My wires cost more than my speakers. But I ordered the interconnects first and now I have no clue what is going on.

  • @mikle65
    @mikle65 3 года назад +1

    I did one like this from van damme cable, same 4 wires inside with shielding. I have done a van damme silver series, and a simple mogami copper coax with shielding. they all sound the same. maybe the van damme silver series a tiny bit different 'better' in sound but they pretty much the same.

  • @quicktoevil
    @quicktoevil 3 года назад +1

    his voice is smooth as oil

  • @ML-rm3vk
    @ML-rm3vk 2 года назад +1

    Fine video sir Berkeley also a fine school.thank you peace

  • @seejayfrujay
    @seejayfrujay 2 года назад +3

    As a retired EE, and having worked with a lot of people in digital and analog signalling, I cannot wrap my head around the idea of connecting the shield to both ends of a cable unless it is coaxial (Mr. Yazaki's method). Twisted pair is much preferred over coax for high-impedance low level connections between audio gear. I was taught the standard method and never deviated. To demonstrate why the standard method is preferred, put a Japanese connected RCA cable next to a strong EM field. You will hear hum from the ground loop between the shield and the black wire. It's physics.
    Belden 8402 interconnects go back to The Absolute Sound in the 1970s as far as a thing with audiophiles. Belden 83318 is far superior, but is very expensive. I built interconnects based on the 83318 cable in the 1980s for a high end shop as a hustle going to school.

    • @CRISPEEDTUNA
      @CRISPEEDTUNA 2 года назад

      Agrred!

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 7 месяцев назад

      Agree 100%. Aside from the hum/ground loop problems inherent in the Japanese method, “directional” cables offer far better sonics, i.e. lower noise floor, better transparency, soundstage, and imaging.

  • @NimaShayesteh
    @NimaShayesteh 4 года назад +1

    Thank you!
    Would appreciate a video on DIY audiophile XLR cables.

  • @peterrobertbowers7639
    @peterrobertbowers7639 Год назад

    i bought my own RCA connectors ( good quality ones) from Amazon. But the difference being is…. I’m using solid copper electrical wire; as opposed to the stranded, flexible type. The difference in sound quality is very noticeable; depending on whether you have a good musical ear or not. I’m also using bi-amp / wire speakers.
    Sunday am 23rd October 2022. U.K. Southampton

  • @KitaristChannel
    @KitaristChannel 2 года назад +1

    Hmm but wouldnt putting both wires together increase capacitance? Even the official mogami rep that i asked said its better to put one wire to ground. What do you think? Did you ever notice any difference or even tried and compared both methods?

  • @grsamael
    @grsamael 5 лет назад +2

    Intrigued! I will build a pair for my phono stage and try them out.

    • @harpalchauhan428
      @harpalchauhan428 3 года назад

      To be honest when i was about 19 i tried making my own phono cables and hated the experience then in 2012 i decided to have a dedicated home cinema room but i let QED do all the hard work and spent over £1200 on there reference and signature range of speaker cables have life time warranty and still happy to this day and 9 years later still going strong so for each year i have had it now just works out to £120 per year BARGAIN LOL

    • @grsamael
      @grsamael 3 года назад +1

      @Sean MacDonald Forgot to reply!
      Went brilliantly, very happy with the results and way more transparesnt and dynamic than a couple of other sub 30€ interconnects i had at hand to compare to.

  • @raymondchan3587
    @raymondchan3587 2 года назад

    The soldering never really come close to serious factory termination that some of them were done exceptionally well.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 года назад +2

      Best solder is no soldering.

  • @discostu668
    @discostu668 2 года назад +1

    It would be great to see a solder-free version

    • @discostu668
      @discostu668 2 года назад

      And it's mostly to get information on a source for a good quality solder-free RCA connector. All of the ones I've seen look pretty questionable/bad in the quality department.

  • @humanitech
    @humanitech 4 года назад +2

    I made some sets of belden 8412 rca interconnects ...because the specs and costs were perfect and enabled me make some very neat specific custom runs, rather than have the horrible spaghetti junctions behind the rack, so I highly recommend that those interested have a go. What's to lose?
    Now initially they sounded OK, better than what I had but a little constrained, but here's the thing... they kept getting better and more open and dynamic and funnily showed the strengths and unfortunately weaknessess in my system.
    Now I was always an ofc copper cable junkie but these cables do take a bit more time to open ?? Now I'm not sure whether that was down to my hearing getting used to them or that burn in makes a difference... So please don't respond because it is all subjective , but to me they are simply great cables to make interconnects... especially if on a budget and dont have the funds or need to buy the hyper brand cables.
    That's not to say they are not good or valid, but DIY will always be a cheaper way to go. However just like hi-fi there are many different cables out there..so it's easy to fall into the same upgrade traps. but belden cables are great

  • @benround948
    @benround948 6 месяцев назад +1

    Very helpful. Thank you

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  6 месяцев назад

      You're welcome!

  • @67spankadelik
    @67spankadelik 5 лет назад +2

    Excellent! You made it soo simple. Will be giving it a try. Thanks for sharing!

  • @charlesclifton5896
    @charlesclifton5896 4 года назад

    Excellent visual and your commentary is spot on.=!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ianpenson1931
    @ianpenson1931 2 года назад +1

    Very good video , I used the belden cable with some solderless locking connectors though I connected the shield to one end only , very good interconnect , though I would like to know why connecting shield to both ends is a good thing or not , thanks again. Ian

  • @markkjim
    @markkjim Год назад

    I just had an idea of using RJ45 wires for my RCA's 😅 I hope it'll sound good lol

  • @alichan8774
    @alichan8774 5 лет назад +2

    With some extra time will save you some extra bucks. Thank you for sharing. Good job.

  • @vudo2555
    @vudo2555 Год назад +1

    Please tell me why or what is the benefit of using the 2 pair inner (whites) as a connect to the shield and ground? Is this a better shielding result versus just using the shield as ground ONLY? And if so why? My first thoughts are that its worse because you are bringing signals closer to the actual feed wires (blue) vs just an outer shield grounded that is farther away from the feeds. (blue). OR is what you are doing here in this video (Japanese Method) actually creating and Outer and Inner shielding effect that is overall a better shielding scheme? Thank you for this awesome video too....and in advance if you are able to answer my question for better understanding of the benefits of what you are suggesting in this video.

    • @Edisson.
      @Edisson. 8 месяцев назад

      I added a separate comment where I explained how the directional cable works.

  • @ToWi1989
    @ToWi1989 4 года назад +6

    I thought only 1 end of the shielding is supposed to be connected to the ground

    • @karomountainsport
      @karomountainsport 4 года назад +5

      indeed that how we build them in the studio's, i connect the shield to the output stage, since output is low impedance.

    • @timberwrightsvs480
      @timberwrightsvs480 4 года назад +1

      If you don't have sound grounding, as your reference point, you will end up chasing your tail. In other words, if you have a good ground in your electrical system, there's really no reason not to connect both ends/terminations of the copper conductors to their respective connection points...and that includes both the signal conductor and the low/shield. I've worked in an electrical lab for more than 30 years and all of the coaxial cable we use has the shielding connected at BOTH ends. We do, however, also have a great copper ground bus that encircles the entire lab, so, once again, all of your electrical must be referenced to a good ground.

  • @dilbyjones
    @dilbyjones 3 года назад +1

    Love your work. Thank you!

  • @franchisefred4066
    @franchisefred4066 4 года назад +1

    I was educated today. 🙏🏼 thank u

  • @SpikeoutBattleStreet
    @SpikeoutBattleStreet 5 лет назад +2

    Dear Tharbamar, I see these Mogami 2534 cables pre built with Neutrik/Rean nys373 plugs selling for ¥1920 only on Amazon jp. I think I will get them. No need to think twice for such a price.
    Great video Tharbamar!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  5 лет назад +3

      They will sound great, If they use same connection method as my C-Type it would even be quieter background.

    • @SpikeoutBattleStreet
      @SpikeoutBattleStreet 4 года назад

      Avoid the rean plug LOL. I had used them for months before making this conclusion. Use canare f-09 plugs instead. The cable will sound the best.

  • @aaronsmith8265
    @aaronsmith8265 2 года назад

    If you’re connecting the shield to ground at both ends, you’re defeating the drain potential of the shield.
    Best to leave one end unattached

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 года назад

      That’s the purpose.

  • @nathanbennett9025
    @nathanbennett9025 3 года назад +1

    I wish I could get you to wire up a complete wiring harness for my sound system in my truck 4-channel amplifier component speakers with a monoblock powering two 10in subwoofers

  • @nowthatsatattoo
    @nowthatsatattoo 3 года назад

    Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @tobi__zwo5710
    @tobi__zwo5710 8 месяцев назад +1

    The Mogami 2534 currently costs €3.41 per metre, the Belden 8402 €17.50, so the decision in favour of the Mogami is quickly made.

  • @georgeogrady449
    @georgeogrady449 Год назад +1

    Nice

  • @truegodofthunder
    @truegodofthunder 8 месяцев назад

    Your videos are very informative and helpful, much appreciated. What is that little clamping piece you are using? That seems very convenient.

  • @DKH83
    @DKH83 3 года назад +2

    Any comment on the sound signature of these two builts? Can you use these for digital transmission via COAX port?

  • @anemul266
    @anemul266 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video. I will try some before long. I do have one question, which I believe I already know the answer, but will ask anyway: Subwoofer RCA cables are done the same way correct?

  • @AntoineViau-00
    @AntoineViau-00 3 года назад +2

    Hello Tharbamar, you said in one comments that you preferred the Belden 8402 over the Mogami StarQuad... so:
    1. How did it compare to the BJ LC1 that use their Belden custom made wire with utralow capacitance?
    2. Since the new Belden generation (8412) seems to have a quad (8412P) with lower capacitance, did you find that the Mogami StarQuad was quieter at the end?
    Thanks! Very good demo!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 года назад +1

      Hi, I also have LC1 which is good neutral sounding cable but 8402 is much better cable for sound quality for me.
      I have not tried 8412 to give you right answer, thanks

    • @KonradSkowronski
      @KonradSkowronski Год назад +1

      Thanks for the question Antoine. I was about to ask the same:) I also have BJ LC-1 and custom (made by myself) Belden 8412 and Mogami 2549. To be honest I can't hear significant differences between them having pretty good ears ( I am musician, mix music). Maybe LC-1 has a bit more extended high frequencies but it can be just a self-suggestion. They are all good interconnects but I'm choosing Mogami - it costed me 15 bucks vs $60 for BJ LC-1 which is 4 times more expensive and not sounding 4 times better.

  • @helmutgroen4129
    @helmutgroen4129 3 года назад

    What's about fabel or Our Dutch one: van de hul (okay the commerce took over with the price!But he was one of the first 🥇 who looking into cable's!Yes????The DUTCHMAN (but heh man I 💕 ove you honesty!!!!so God's peace to you !

  • @baldving86
    @baldving86 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant video, can i use this kind of rca cable for my Turntable and make groundwire with it,i have RCA connectors on my turntable

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 года назад +1

      Yes definitely.

    • @baldving86
      @baldving86 2 года назад

      @@Tharbamar ok thank you for the answer, i will make the brown cables looking forward to try it out in my system

  • @josephdavis4872
    @josephdavis4872 4 года назад

    You should try soldering gold or silver for better sound and get silver or gold rca connector to get that fuller and richer Soundstage.

  • @mat.b.
    @mat.b. Год назад +2

    why do you ground the braided shielding at both ends? is 1 end not recommended?

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 7 месяцев назад

      I learned 45 years ago from my friend with an EE degree to only connect the shield at source.

  • @compa_choo
    @compa_choo 3 месяца назад +1

    Can you use each individual conductor on the mogami to make a single rca pair or is that not recommended? Looking at making my own cables for multiple amps in the car but with as little separate cables as possible

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 месяца назад

      Yes you can because it’s insulated.

  • @mfr58
    @mfr58 5 лет назад +3

    Not a good idea to connect shield to ground at both ends as it creates a local earth loop. Better to connect shield to low impedance end, usually source end is lower, any rf noise gets drained to ground through the lower source impedance.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  5 лет назад +1

      Nah, done that way so many times, directional type is overrated. I have and built all methods nothing comes close to these methods in sound quality.

    • @mfr58
      @mfr58 5 лет назад +2

      @@Tharbamar I'll bow to your greater experience of auditioning. Theory is not always borne out in practice. I've always grounded the shield at source as good practice, but haven't compared the sound with both ends connected. Maybe I'll try it.

    • @ardalay88
      @ardalay88 5 лет назад +1

      No problem whatsever If both units share a common ground. For example Naim amps don't pass ground signal to rca ports! If the source eqipment doesn't have a ground pin now you have a ground loop problem between chasis of the source equipment and amp. If you inject ground signal one of the unused ports of your amp then it's ok as well (ground is shared between rca ports) It's not easy to say this method is better than this I guess.

    • @IvicaMarusevic
      @IvicaMarusevic 5 лет назад +1

      @@Tharbamar It its all dependent on the equipment which you connect... I'm always preferring one side shield connection, that can work always...

  • @astroporpoise7802
    @astroporpoise7802 Год назад +1

    Help please. Does connecting ground to both ends--either the Yazaki-san method, or coax with shield connected to both ends--risk ground loop issues? Wouldn't this be worse than a 2-conductor cable wired with the shield and ground at the source end only? Thanks for any input.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  Год назад

      I’ve used it all the time without any issue in my system.

  • @marklowe7431
    @marklowe7431 2 года назад +1

    Would love to get some of you audiophools in blind A/B tests using the most crap cable and the $10k cables. Hilarious. This is all romance not reality. Anything above $30 is a flog.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 года назад +1

      I’ve beaten many blind demos and make fool of people who think they know it all.
      But good for you if you can’t hear the difference but don’t think others are dumb.

  • @ChicagoRob2
    @ChicagoRob2 7 месяцев назад

    Both cables are constructed with the “Japanese” method. The only difference is the cable being used. It would have been better to build one of them as “directional” cables. A directional cable uses one wire for hot, one wire for the return, with the shield connected only at the source. The shield “floats” at the other end and is not connected. There is a big difference in the way the two different cables sound. Japanese constructed cables sound dull and closed-in, compared to directional cables, which are more open and transparent.

    • @SlagroomenCornflakes
      @SlagroomenCornflakes 6 месяцев назад

      I am about to assemble a cable, but quite confused by what you mean.
      Would you be able to elaborate or guide me to a place where i can read more about this?

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 6 месяцев назад

      @@SlagroomenCornflakes Here you go, nice and easy. Buy the 2549 and connectors from Performance Audio(best prices).
      1. Connect blue wire to center pin of both connectors.
      2. Connect white return wire to ground of both connectors.
      3. Connect the shield to only one connector and let it “float” on the other end. The shield connected connector should be plugged into your music source(DAC, preamp, etc.).

  • @beatdenko1034
    @beatdenko1034 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting and informative Video. But I have a Problem. I need interconnects to plug my record Player in. How do you get the ground with These cables. Do I just put a spade on the ground you connected to rca shell?
    Thank you in advance.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 года назад +1

      You just need to make separate ground cable, thanks

  • @danielyang4562
    @danielyang4562 4 года назад +2

    You’re the best! Subscribed and thumbs upped!

  • @anything4
    @anything4 5 лет назад +1

    or you can pre cut the excess wire before crimping it. i guess it'll be much easier.

  • @jorged9353
    @jorged9353 2 года назад +1

    Great video! Which cable & connectors would you recommend for a diy interconnect phono cable? I'm getting lots of EMI from mine, so I guess it's time to change it for a low capacitance one.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 года назад

      My favorite if Neutrik ProFi RCA plugs. thanks

  • @czktash
    @czktash 5 лет назад +6

    Can I order rca cables from you

  • @falcon048
    @falcon048 3 года назад +1

    What is the audible difference between crimping the ground with the shield versus soldering the ground and shield together on the post?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 года назад +1

      Same concept but I preferred direct contact without soldering.

    • @falcon048
      @falcon048 3 года назад

      @@Tharbamar I ask because I recently took apart my old Monster Cable Reference 2 RCAs. I noticed they took the shield and wrapped it into the ground wire and soldered that into the post of the connector.
      I notice that the configuration of that wire is no different than what you were using. So, I really wonder if that cable is really all that bad?

  • @YILIU-q8q
    @YILIU-q8q 10 месяцев назад +1

    Its me again, planning for purchasing dac : ares 12th or draco to go with SX11, do you still recomend belden 8402 or 8412 made XLR cables for these combinations ? BTW my speaker is Sonus Faber Sonetto I .

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  10 месяцев назад

      Yes I’m still using 8402, thanks

  • @humakabula6305
    @humakabula6305 4 года назад +1

    good work

  • @MrBeblis
    @MrBeblis 3 года назад +1

    You need to watch tweaker man, what he does is truly DIY... He builds all his cables from scratch

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 года назад

      I did build them long time ago, easy task.

  • @technicsmelancholic6289
    @technicsmelancholic6289 10 месяцев назад

    Grea vid Do they work Both Directions?,I have a Question,I have made my own RCA cables for Technics Turntables for years, typical white Red connection from the PCB Board to two connectors White Red all good,one Day I've decided to Make my own RCA,male to male for plug and unplug RCA Turntables,they worked Both Directions fine,the problem is that,I've tried to build more and now they don't work at all,same cables same connectors and I don't even remember what I did the first time to make them Work Both Directions! Any help?

  • @reshmooreable
    @reshmooreable 2 года назад +1

    Hello Tharbanar. Useful video. Thanks for that. I'm just curios, can all 4 cores be solder as signal and just solder the braided wire as ground?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 года назад +1

      Yes you can but it will increase capacitance, thanks

  • @paulbader5844
    @paulbader5844 8 месяцев назад

    Why don't you ground the shielding on just one end?

  • @juanmanuelmancini8805
    @juanmanuelmancini8805 Год назад +1

    hello tharbamar, question, is it worth using an rca cable to xlr female, from the interconnection of the dac to the amplifier? Or I continue with the rca cables.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  Год назад +1

      Only if you have to use bridge option or with mono power amps, otherwise there is no extra benefits of using the conversion cable, thanks

  • @3m3li0
    @3m3li0 4 года назад +1

    Can you please do a video on how to make twisted rcas for car audio ?

  • @endrizo
    @endrizo 2 месяца назад +1

    why not using both w and b cables.? you wasted one to earth

  • @metalmaggot673
    @metalmaggot673 5 месяцев назад +1

    is there a follow up video on these cables?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  5 месяцев назад +1

      No follow up because I stopped using RCA cables and switched everything to XLR.

    • @metalmaggot673
      @metalmaggot673 5 месяцев назад

      @@TharbamarRIP! lol. how did they sound? im new to cables and was looking into making these cables. I followed your other video on making speaker cables using Mogami W3082 you made a year ago. Was hoping to get some insight

  • @bradt.3555
    @bradt.3555 3 года назад

    Wondering if you connect shield at both ends. Typically your hot and grounded conductor carry the signal and the shield only connects at one end so it shields the cable but carries no signal.

  • @dantwomey
    @dantwomey 3 года назад

    Tharbamar, these cables with the Mogami 2534 gave me superb results. I think I'm going to try making XLR cables with the 2534. Your thoughts?

  • @davidadebola9692
    @davidadebola9692 Год назад

    Thanks for the great video. Which cable is best to use with a subwoofer?

  • @MohrMi
    @MohrMi 3 года назад +3

    Hi, which interconnects are your best? Did you compare them? Kind regards and have a nice 2021!

    • @ChicagoRob2
      @ChicagoRob2 7 месяцев назад

      Make your own directional interconnects with Mogami 2549 and Rean Neutric connectors and toss your other interconnects in the trash.