Blooper Reel - 2 - Salt Fade
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Blooper reel!! A lot has changed this past month. Big month.
Today, we will:
1:31 - Visit Utah to meet the team
4:40 - Explore what's new with Blooper
10:09 - Get emotional
13:02 - Review your suggestions
14:25 - Visit Steve Bragg (owner of Empress)
Big, emotional month.
Thanks for watching!
Your thoughts on the last video were really helpful & many of them are going into the pedal (as we'll discuss today). So more thoughts please.
If you want to download these sounds, KNOBs has a Patreon:
/ knobs
See you in a month!
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a fabulous uplifter for this wednesday
thanks knobs, an omnipotent set of hands that we all need in our minds
Never owned a Tensor or Count to Five but this is shaping up to be everything I had wished those were. As others have said, please take your time (!) I would wait years for a perfectly finished product.
Agreed! Also gives us time to save up the cash...
I have both - amazing pedals! You'll stumble onto something different every time you turn them on - brilliant stuff!
Your voice sounds like Gabe from the office and strangely he really liked "soundscapes" and ambient music.
omg i cant unhear it
now that i think about it... we’ve never seen gabe and knobs in the same room hmmmmm
Oh shut up, skeleton man
I was thinking the same thing, except his role as Jared in Silicon Valley
This is sounding really cool. My suggestion/request: please don't release this until it is the pedal you want to release. What I mean is: it is very frustrating as a consumer to buy a cool (expensive) pedal, and a year later a BETTER version gets released. The most recent example I can think of is the red panda particle delay, which now has a new version with tap tempo. That's great, and it needed it for sure, but it feels like a punishment for those of us who shelled out the money in the first place. I get why a company would do this, but it is frustrating and disheartening and makes me lose a little bit of respect for them. So spend all the time you need to make THE BLOOPER, then let us buy em! We want it! We just dont want to be punished for spending our hard earned money on what might not be the best version of your baby. That's my two cents. Super excited about blooper 💓
But the Particle V1 came out in 2013 (I believe...) and on a completely different hardware platform. V2 is essentially a completely new pedal with some elements of the original. I don’t think there is anything wrong with a company improving existing products and nothing would ever get made if you worked endlessly on a single idea. The company is definitely not trying to punish its consumers.
I don't believe they are TRYING to punish their customers... But it feels like a punishment all the same. I dig my particle delay, but I dont want to shell out another few hundred dollars to get a feature that probably should have been included in the first place. I'm not an engineer at all. I don't know what all goes into making a pedal - I assume quite a lot. My request remains: dont make us buy the pedal twice.
The Whiskey Priest my point is especially with the Particle you are not buying the pedal twice. It’s two completely different things. The FV-1 chip (which V1 is made from) only has so much processing power and granular delay takes a lot of it up. The new platform is 4 times as powerful which leads to higher fidelity and more options. I actually looked up the article and V1 was designed in 2010 and released in 2011. That’s a long time ago! Imagine back to what cellphones/laptops where like then. A lot of people buy the new models each year! But don’t worry about the Blooper, there’s a USB port for firmware upgrades so as long as the hardware is sound (which Chase Bliss is know for with their digital control) it’ll be relevant and upgradable for a long time.
@@ryanworthley4555 that's good to hear about chase bliss and firmware. Seems like if the new particle delay were a completely different pedal (which I'm not arguing that it's not - you know way more than i do about the platforms and such) that they would put out a new pedal, and not a 2.0 version of the same pedal. The effect it has on me (and I assume others) is a feeling like we've spent hard earned money on an inferior pedal while they were making the superior one. Many manufacturers do this, at a much more frequent rate. My point is that it is frustrating and disheartening (as it is in the mad dash world of smart phone and laptop and operating system "upgrades" as well, but let's not debate that here). "It's the way of the world" is okay as an argument for how things are, but if a company or creator is asking for input on how people wish things were, then that's my input.
@@ryanworthley4555 That is a very good point.
Being able to record in reverse and at different speeds would be lovely! Like the looper on the H9!
you have such a pleasant voice knobs
I'll repeat my suggestion:
Probably the greatest thing you could add to the pedal is an FX send/return, so that any pedal the user has can be used as a modifier!!
YES! YES! YES! That would be brilliant!
If that feature were to be included I'd sit my OMEC Teleport in the Send/Return and then I could both record and use any FX app. That would be super-flexible but I don't know what it adds to the price & complexity of what also looks to be a very full-featured device.
That would have been insane. I'd have fun building a board around that
Hey Knobs! For the one shot recording idea, I’d love to see a dip switch that is set to random to where you could one shot (like you mentioned as a sampler) but in the random mode hitting the footswitch will play different bits of the loop each time.
Also I’d love to see a function that would time stretch the loops so they stay in key but sound like beautiful outer space gas
Yeah like Loop Windowing that you can only do with the vintage Echoplex 19" rack loopers. That would be a first timer in a pedal form and I'd instantly buy!!
This is like the time Homer was allowed to design a car. Except it could be awesomer.
@John Verne lol
Mannn you're just my favorite guitarist out there (and damn is this pedal exciting
This is starting to look more like granular loopers that exist in the Eurorack world, such as the Morphagene or the Nebulae, very cool!
I'll quite possible sell my morphagene for this!
bloopery: the social network app for calming music made by knobs
Love your voice Knobs. It's exactly what I wanted but maybe not what I imagined or expected. As an electrical engineer, this episode pleases me greatly. I love seeing the things that go into the end product.
I'm happy to see things working out for you knobs, blooper is looking great!
Hi there
Have been following the development of blooper with great interest since Ive been into looping myself for many years. I am extremely interested in the very innovative way that blooper is conceived and being built - and before I forget, I would echo the sentiment of one of the last comments in that I think we all hope you guys will take your time and get blooper to do EVERYTHING you want so we do not end up with a Version 2.
The main reason I am writing is to make the following small suggestion:
1) Regarding the TRIMMER knob that you demonstrated in Blooper Reel 2 : when you showed how it works, my immediate response was to say - there should be a “detent” on the knob - a small physical “stop” so you KNOW you are in the centre of the knob’s travel. That way if you want to return to your original loop, you can just turn it back to 12 o’clock and it will click into place because of the detent. And the detent gives you a tiny physical resistance just to make you more aware that you are leaving your loop to trim it left or right. Having it without a detent means you have to “guess” where 12 o’clock is and if I missed it and accidentally trimmed my loop when I had changed my mind about doing so - I could easily trim my loop UNINTENTIONALLY. So it’s mainly just to help you avoid guesswork and avoid trimming inadvertently. I hate guessing.
A VERY minor point, but I wish I could have made suggestions for the looper pedals I’ve used over the past few decades. There’s always one or two little things that might have worked a bit more efficiently or could be improved in some way.
Very few pedals have everything we want but the blooper has not only the potential to have what we want but it already includes a number of ideas or concepts that I have not seen in ANY existing looper. Ever. I started with the first Boss DD-2 with one second of loop time. Then I found a Digitech rack unit that did a massive 8 seconds (RDS-8000 ??), then 3 minutes with the Echoplex Pro - and then from there into the modern world of Loop Stations and so on. So I have seen quite a few, and blooper is different, unique and has huge potential.
A brief comment about the FADE control while I am thinking about it; first, VERY GLAD you have added it, it’s not boring - it’s essential! I always create a loop, and then use this control liberally, and sometimes a really long decaying slowly dying loop is exactly what you want. Especially for live work. Having one-shot is also very useful so good call there, too.
This is possibly the only pedal I know of out there now that I WILL absolutely buy once it is finally released. No hurry...I want it to be the best, not get it RIGHT AWAY!
The team is doing an awesome job so far and I hope the careful, thoughtful progress made will continue in an unhurried fashion that will eventually see the release of this ground-breaking pedal full of unusual features and ideas. I can see using it for a myriad of musical applications within different effects set ups. I am really looking forward to working with this amazing device.
One last request too, not directly related to this blooper:
Once this version is perfected - down the road at some point - please consider making a STEREO version for us stereo snobs. I have one stereo looper (a Roland RC-300 which I love despite its somewhat traditional design) and several mono loopers, (among them, the astonishingly innovative “Echoplex Pro” which I really wished was stereo too) and have owned a number of other mono pedals over time...and since most of my rigs are mostly stereo nowadays, I would not mind a larger form-factor stereo version of “Blooper”. You could call it “Slooper”. With lots of routing options please, stereo ins and outs - all that groovy stereo stuff.
Otherwise, I look forward to the third instalment and wanted to say “thank you” for allowing us an early ongoing “peek” at the development process - it’s absolutely fascinating and a lot of really excellent ideas have been and are being designed into this amazing pedal.
Blooper Team - please KEEP thinking miles and miles outside of any box!!
All the best,
Dave @pureambient
davestafford.bandcamp.com
Loving this so much!!! I think the pedal is looking to be a beautiful thing indeed, but also the journey you are sharing, the people met, the connections made. Showing the love and commitment of bringing something from an idea to reality. It's fascinating.
Yes! Fade means that it will do Frippertronics! (Without needing two Revox reel-to-reel decks.)
Hell yeah, Parker!!! It's awesome seeing the count to 5 on the board too!
This and the Mood one each in its own loop.. Fun
Man, I love the idea of this.
Knobs and you both do some of the best pedal effects videos, also ThePedalZone, prob my favs on RUclips
@@Shunhara Thanks dude! Yea, PedalZone rules!!!!
I’m for adding additional buttons on ALL of your amazing pedals. Especially Thermae! 🙏👌😍
A very lovely series!
This is going to rip, so inspiring! One thing I wish existed more on loopers is a multiply function (like the one that exists on the echoplex digital pro plus) to double/quadruple/etc. the length of the loop so you can overdub longer phrases over the top. Like, if I could record something, use the trimmer knob to resize the thing I recorded, and then was able to record a longer phrase over the top while multiplying the original loop in increments of itself (and even use the trimmer again after multiplying?!?), that would be crazy. At any rate, this seems awesome!
These are so great to watch, I absolutely adore all you guys.
At first I wasn’t interested in this idea but now you have my attention.
Ah, yes. The smoggy skies of Utah. Let's get a beer.
Love Love Love the production quality of these!!
This continues to look amazing! Really looking forward to this coming out...
My suggestion - if you've got forward playback and reverse playback, could we also have forward-then-reverse-then-forward-then-reverse playback? Samplers often seem to have it ("ping pong looping") and it's great for making smooth textures out of sounds (and other weirdness) but looper pedals don't normally bother...
yeah I love this aka "alternating" loops... I'm guessing there will be some clever workaround to get this in the end
this gave/gives me the tingles
Surprised that you found beer in Utah. j/k. Great update!
damn haven't been here in ages, like actually in ages. too much going on and too many subscriptions so might've maybe forgotten you existed (oops). apparently a lot has changed on this channel but still feels like home coming back to these vids. now if you'll excuse me, i've got a bit of a backlog to go through.
I am so inspired - musically and electronically! Cant wait to give you some money!
i really hope that someday i could play loops and stuff in my guitar just as you do, keep it up, you are a great inspiration
No matter what happens this will be a total game changer of course (and probably an important part of the sound of the 2020s) but my suggestion: Consider developing a sidecar (use a different term or Boomerang will pay you a visit) pedal for the extra features. I (and I think many would agree) would find blooper most usable if all the crazy was contained in more than one standard CBA enclosure (especially since you are being so generously receptive to all of our ideas). Maybe you could use the firmware updates to control what features go where so you could still take the single blooper on the road?
Also PLEASE consider keeping the prototype's design/colour scheme it's my favourite
Loving this series
thank you knobs
Great tool and great Review.
Hi Knobs! I've been waiting for something like this for quite some time but... two things I would absolutely need in order to use it with acoustic piano (or any other miked sound source) are stereo I/O and silent footswitches.
Hyped to try this! I’d love to see a looper pedal like this with capability to connect a midi controller that controls pitch of the loop, similar to an Ableton Sampler or OP-1 type vibe but for a more direct live input
Seems a number of people are asking for this. Might be possible.
This is gonna be my first looper pedal one day. Such a unique pedal from what ive seen in the market. You guys are doing great!
Such a future classic! Please make it Stereo
i like how you've gone about this a bit like how a band makes a record x
Suggestions:
- Would be cool if CV/Exp input controls different knobs
- Would be cool if CV/Exp controls multiple knobs simultaneously
- Would be cool if the amount of applied CV/Exp impact is customizable and unique to each knob.
- Don’t stuff more than necessary in this pedal
- Do more pedals instead!
I love the Steve bloops at the end. Is Steve taking over, Knobs?!
I wish I could born again and be that kid with dinousars pyjamas playing with my dad with synth and the coolest pedal ever made. And if I get bored I can always quit and play some LEGO :) . Thank you to make me think all day about what I have to sell to buy pedals I see in here! Also thanks for making me discover the Reverb X and Rainger Fx guys. I wrote a riff with that pedal and I'm really happy with that song :D .
Peace :)
_GRINGO
Great progress, guys.
Great work!
It would also be amazing if you could send note information via MIDI so that you could play the loop chromatically like a sample. (Maybe add a sample mode?) Sort of like the sampling engine in the OP-1.
I actually like some of the popping and clicking. I like the lo-fi feel. I also hear a little connection type buzzing going on.
Suggestion: A modifier that emulates phase shifting a la Steve Reich, etc. So, in effect, it would start playback of your loop at a separate point - possibly on top of a preexisting loop - and you could have all the effects of the same loop being played out of sync, as it were, which gives loads of really interesting rhythmic patterns. The cutting point would have to be mathematically precise to make sure that things don't become too chaotic (Like 1/2 way, 1/4 way, etc.) You could then possibly have a feature where you fade/slide between different phased versions of the OG loop too. It'd be a really cool thing to have for live use - to be able to instantly add a phased version - since, in practice, actually working out what the phased vesion would be isn't practical to do if you're improvising and is still sort of annoying/prone to failure at other points.
We had a knob for just this in the early Blooper prototype (Drift). I think we'll be able to work in something like this.
Hi Knobs. Hi Steve. Hi Joel and Zack. See you guys in September in Montreal.
At present, the Blooper is starting to sound like Steve Reich/Philip Glass in -a-box. Not a *bad* thing, mind you. Just not what some think of as rock-n-roll. Carry on.
Rock-n-roll isn't exactly what I had in mind ;) Hey I actually have a question for you Mark, can you send me a quick e-mail here: info.knobs@gmail.com ?
I needed this.
I CAN'T WAIIIITTTTT!! WAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
I was considering replacing my CT5 with Blooper, but after this video I’m going with the “why not both?” approach. :) I’m really looking forward to this one!
your nibble glitchy play style reminds me of Chris Rosenau (pele / COCOB)
1: I love this pedal idea and I’m super excited for its future release.
2: You said “All my music sounds the same”, but I’m curious if you’d show us in a video some typical things you do when you play. You’ve got a very unique, beautiful sound and I’d love to learn from it.
Fantastic, thanks. And the Dropper effect sounds unbelievable. Like an inverse stutter. I've just ordered a Zoia and if anyone has any ideas how you'd go about programming a patch like that I'd happily hear them....!
So impressed by this development! Possibly already suggested...but will external loops be added via USB connectivity? That would be very cool!
this is so gd cool!!!
I'm concerned about this pedal becoming too complicated. How do you plan on wrangling all the different effects?
the loop at 4:16 is really nice, reminds me of LOVING
Go Zack!
That cat was snarfing .
love it!
You should consider putting an LFO on it an a dip switch to choose whether it affects Warble, Filter, or Length of the loop (slowest would be unaffected and highest would be like the one shot as a rapid fire blip sound of the loop playing back superfast)
All of the Chase Bliss pedals have an internal LFO that can be mapped to any of the knobs. With Blooper, it can be synced to the loop length.
Hey Chase Bliss, loving the videos for the new Blooper. I'm super pumped for this, but had a quick question and hopefully some feedback.
I have yet to see (I sooo want this thing to be perfect!). I noticed that the idea of midi clock input control is being implemented, which is fantastic. I'm curious, I havn't seen this in any videos, but will it have the ability to 'pre-arm' for recording? Meaning, I'm playing a song that is 4 beats/measure. A midi clock is sending information to the blooper so it knows when beat 1 is, will it have the ability to be 'engaged' and start recording on the next 1 beat? Similarly, when you click to stop recording, it knows to stop at the next 1 beat and immediately start looping? This may be a simple question, but as I said, im super pumped for this and hope it has the features many of us desire!
Loved seeing it sitting next to the Count to Five. Now if I run both of those in the loops of the VFE Klein Bottle...
David Dyte FUUUUUCK
"I just drank water and spilled it on my guitar" (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧ bless ur soul
Vacation- Florist.
great stiff as always my friends
OMG could Zoia and Blooper be an entire pedalboard?! Yes, they probably could. (Would I still add a Thermae and a Condor? Yes, I probably would.)
Since this isn't available yet, does anyone know of a comparable pedal that is available for purchase currently?
I want one more and more.
This is a very interesting project! There is one thing I would add and it's a stereo output. How cool would it be to hear those sounds in stereo! If a stereo out is not possible maybe you could do a second pedal which add this functionality and maybe other features to the main pedal. My 2 cents. Enrico
Knobs I noticed the count to five on that pedal board....I wonder what others are on that board ...
Love the blooper and wish you well
Make it so that you can fade in a "performance" effect in the second loop reel by using an expression pedal. Like for example, you record a rhythm and then overdub a melody, but you want to play that melody in reverse in a sort of swell. You could fade it in with the expression pedal. Or you could also set the expression pedal to control the speed in which the reverse occurs or the rate in which the "loop reel" jams or stutters or even the rate at which it plays... the setting could be chosen via dip switches too... Just throwing in some ideas. lol
YASSSSSS I love this one. GAS is lit.
First: I enjoy your content.
Second: I have a question about the fader knob. Early in the video you gave me the impression that this will function like a decay knob, in that the loop(s) will slowly fade away. Near the end you made it seem like this will be a counter/clock, which I am imagining as all the way counter-clockwise 1 loop (and it'll stop playback at the end of the loop, as opposed to fading out), all the way clockwise infinite repeats. Will it be either of these, or will it be switchable? Will it be neither of these?
Thanks!
"We're in the mountains."
How long can the loops be? Is it dependent on the number of layers?
There should be a protective cap for the dipswitches.
It’s like knobs is taking all the pedals he reviewed and putting them all in one. Sounds insane! Any info on price?
This is looking great, nice work everyone! I know I made a whole bunch of suggestions on the previous video, and now I can't remember any of them because I don't really care any more, because now that Blooper sound way more musical and playable, I just want to play with it to see where it will take me, rather than use it as a function box to take care of all my functional looping needs.
/streamofconsciousness
Super like!
💕💕
I kind of just realized this is for people who put the looper at the beginning of their chain. People like me :)
Dope📦
The pedal is shaping up terrifically. I can't wait and I'm definitely getting one. That being said, the modifiers are still really noisy. Is that something that can be cleaned up as well?
Definitely. I wouldn't read into that stuff too much right now. It's already a lot cleaner sounding than it was when I filmed this
This is really cool. Even though I am at a point where I am done buying pedals for my ambient guitar set up, I could totally be seeing this replacing some stuff in my batch of goodies that I use for noise stuff.
Cool!
Love the clicking and popping. Please don't sterilise
suggestion: ability to record two loops that will play without sync between each other
I mentioned this on TGP, and It's probably a bad business model, but with so many great suggestions from the community, I wonder if you could offer two versions of the blooper with slightly different features. Each version would have the same core elements, but the whistles would differ between the two.
Again, I'm not a business mind and it probably sounds like an awful idea from a business perspective, but it could be cool if you could choose between blooper models based on the features most appealing to your looper needs.
Is this meant to be an instrument pedal? For guitar, keyboard, etc.? Is it a stand alone noise device or does it need something external going into the input?
it's a looper pedal. it loops stuff, it's not a synthesiser.
I feel like something very different needs to happen with the dip switches. I can't, for example, think of many usages for ramping the loops "fade" (decay). I could be wrong, but the only usage of the dip switches I could see being cool would be ramping the "cross" knob. This, of course, is making big assumptions about what kind of goodies will be hidden in the mod functions.
Just a thought.
whats an example of what you can do with that midi input. is it to match a clockrate??
I gotta look up episode 1! Must've missed it =(
Yooo this is cool as hell. I liked the footage of talking about technical details. I'm a software dev but haven't ever worked with DSP. Ya think I could get Mark's contact info so I can ask him a few questions?
Andy Tran Oooo I’m a CS Major, I wanna know all the knowledge too!!
*bloooooooooop*
Omg knobs has vocal chords