Oh man, thanks for getting that lore in order. I found a lot of stuff out of sequence and struggled to get it into the right order, plus the sheer amount of information was a bit hard to digest. So having this video lay it all out comprehensively is awesome! It's also an interesting story of lapses in judgment. Liloupar saw humans as greedy and corrupt beings, and yet chose love over her beliefs. She wanted that kind of happiness in spite of what she thought of humans, thinking that she had found the exception to the rule. She still warned Ormazd to not betray their pact, so she herself wasn't convinced of their love overcoming mortal desires. And as it turned out, it really didn't. Her curse was premeditated, and as she herself put it, her revenge would be to inflict the same pain threefold. So, as he betrayed her love, Liloupar would curse the three next in his generation to betray his love all the same. It may seem overtly cruel to pull innocents into this love feud, but for starters, Liloupar doesn't share mortal values. To her, using her children to exact her revenge was no big deal, because she still loved them, and they were also Ormazd's children. At the same time, her children would also prove her right again and again, succumbing to selfish desires just like she would expect mortals to. And as she herself noted, Liloupar doesn't regret her deeds. To her, this was a case of "fuck around and find out", and Ormazd certainly found out. She warned him, and he ignored it, at that point, all responsibility fell on him, at least in her eyes. She simply did what she had to, which was to take revenge on him for breaking her heart, and she felt justified even in her last moments with you and Paimon. However, that didn't stop her from facing the consequences of her actions and accepting her own karma. At the end of it all, I really liked Liloupar. Another character on my growing list of "NPC's that I want to see become playable".
Beautifully written comment! I absolutely love your interpretation. I like her character too! She isn't human and has her own moral values that she abides by, and as per them, she faces her judgement in the end.
Wonderful comment! I agree a lot with this that she doesn't share mortal values and that she doesn't regret what she had done but realizes that consequences and karma are still coming around for her. "Fuck around and find out" is such a good summary for this lore tbh
I am actually confused with the last words liloupar said "I know fate will arrange for us to meet again. I believe... I have made the right choice", she said they might meet again so does it mean liloupar is not actually dead. and what does she mean by "I believe...I have made right choice" which right choice she was indicating.
@@SahajNagarwal I guess she means both her decision to make Traveler her master, as well as returning to Gurabad. She's most likely confident that you will find a way to bring salvation to the souls trapped in the Abyss that swallowed Gurabad. That, in turn, also implies that Gurabad will become a future area, probably a separate location in the same vein as Enkanomiya.
I forgot to add this point. Kisra was actually blood related to Shirin and was her biological brother. The whole "adoptive son" was a lie. This also explains why their son Shiruyeh wore a mask as children born of incestual relationships are born with biological deformities.
Idk if the desert is inspired by Egypt but in ancient Egypt, it is not weird to marry among siblings... In fact it is to keep the bloodline ✨pure✨ even Cleopatra married her own brother, Ptolemy before meeting Caesar....
I love Liloupar as a character, she deserves to be punished, but remember, she isn't human. We may never fully understand Jinns but I'm glad that at the last moment, she faces the consequences of her actions. Such a tragic tale for a beautiful city and its people. Also, being in the eternal city knowing everything while hearing that OST is truly heartbreaking and yet it all just feels right. Thank for summarizing this. The past video you did also helped.
I love her character too! Most players constantly forget that she's not human, so she doesn't share same moral values. Jinn are mysterious beings and very different from humans.
When I started to like her & her duo commentary with Paimon, she's just gone 🤣. She & Paimon commenting on people's appearance, actions & speeches are just hilarious. Was hoping to travel with both of em, turns out Liloupar choose to stay.
Shirin and Kisra's story is Genshin's version of the tragic romance of Shirin and Khosrow from the 11th century Persian epic Shahnameh, which is popular in both India and the Middle East (Kisra is Arabic for Khosrow after all). They were also real-life historical figures: Khosrow II was the ruler of the Sassanid Empire and his wife Shirin was a Christian princess (probably Armenian too). In the Shahnameh, Shiruyeh was Shirin's stepson and murdered Khosrow to marry Shirin (bro said 'I'm not the stepson, I'm the son who stepped up')
Wow, there are really some great stories out there waiting for us to read. And I never expect some of these stories are based on true historical events.
Demn. When going through the quest & exploratiom it feels like I ever read the story somewhere when I was a child, like a feeling of dejavu but just can't remember it. Now I know.
In Liloupar's case... What's goes around come around, her love was the cause of everything to the point that she curse her own three generations of descendant to face a misery ending and at last all karma she committed brought back to herself at the end
King Deshret punished Liloupar mainly because she indirectly destroyed an entire country to the detriment of the higher ruler - King Deshret. If revenge had only been with her husband, things might have been different, but What's goes around come around, her husband's son and her daughter's husband, is still the same person - bad ruler. Leading to the destruction of an entire empire is only a matter of time
It seems that many Genshin impact lores get reference from real-life histories and folktales. Man, the developer real digs up a lot of histories that most youngsters or adults don't even remember or heard before.
Gurabad is basically Game of Thrones in Teyvat. I mean holy heck, the number of betrayals and death. Shirin poisoning 299 of her siblings including her father is more body count than Arya can do.
i didnt want to rush this world quest but its just so great i couldnt help myself. i was so invested in such a tragic story, i'm glad genshin is improving a lot with their dialogues and story telling
Honestly i don’t remember the last time I had gotten attached to a quest like this. Especially after unlocking paradise. It’s just just ≈_≈ … it’s up there with the feels. HELL ITS THE ONE QUETS WHRE I ACTUALLY READ EVERY DIALOGUE. imagine
Bless you and your channel for explaining all this! The information was so fragmented and all over the place that we discover in non-chronological order, such that I only had a vague inkling of what happened, but not in detail (The fact we can't save and document the info we find in the open world and later peruse them when we have more of the pieces, makes it so hard). You have filled in the blanks in such a smooth way and saved me a huge headache of trying to remember this all in order. The story and details really show how much depth Genshin puts into it's lore.
I do feel bad for Liloupar, but it's still messed up to curse your own children and descendants because your own problems consumed you. It may feel right in the moment to seek revenge, but it'll came back to bite you later on.
isnt it more like she's just clueless at what the right thing to do, so she is doing the easy way out? ngl never in my whole life i thought side characters need emotional support but she's definitely one but alas its too late
It certainly did, no matter what Liloupar loved her children, even as she used them to enact her vengeance. So she returned to the abyss to face her children and by extension her mistakes.
King Deshret punished Liloupar mainly because she indirectly destroyed an entire country to the detriment of the higher ruler - King Deshret. If revenge had only been with her husband, things might have been different, but What's goes around come around, her husband's son and her daughter's husband, is still the same person - bad ruler. Leading to the destruction of an entire empire is only a matter of time
Not to mention dooming so many innocent civilians. In the heat of the moment, she dragged folks, who were not involved in the matter, into her thirst for revenge. For me, I feel less incline to give her my sympathy.
The fact that Shirin’s spirit is said to haunt the desert, searching for her lost child Shiruyeh really has me thinking. In the tale of Shiruyeh and Shirin, the narrator seems to be a Jinn girl telling this story to a young human boy she calls her "Raven". When she finishes telling it to him, the book concludes with a line about how she is about to start a ritual, seemingly involving the boy. If this book is reliable, and fairytales usually are more reliable than history books in Genshin, I think the child could be Dottore, whose animal motif is definitely a raven. The Jinn girl would be whatever remained of Shirin, desperate to bring back her lost son. She may have started a ritual that either succeeded or failed
It's crazy to think how many stories Genshin contains. Like our journey itself and the existence of traveler itself is a web of questions. Thanks to you for sharing the lore in the game.
I spent my lunar year holiday finishing this quest and in my opinion this is the best world quest in genshin. The music, the lore made me depressed just like Honkai Impact story made me depressed. I haven't find and read all the sacred seal but from this video, the story is wholesome. Thank you sir for compiling this story❤️👍
Yup. The second we walked into the tunnels and found the campsites where the desert folk had resorted to cannibalism I knew it was going to be quite the ride.
Thanks for the complete story of Liloupar :) After completing the quests and reading info in books and other places I was still unsure about certain parts of the full story (and didn't realize others you mentioned). Now I have a clear idea of her life, which feels great !
thank you! istg i couldn't understand a single thing while playing and it is amazing how you could piece it all together in such a simplified and understandable format. thank youuu!
You did an amazing job compiling this much information and summarising it. Honestly, Genshin did such amazing jobs with the past few quests. The world quest shows just how much of a deep lore teyvat contains. They pick up real-life stories, and histories and 'Genshinise' them, and they turn out great!
I was waiting for you to cover this quest line. Even though I figured the events that took place, I appreciate the effort you put into interpreting it in chronological order. Can't wait to see what will Babel plot this time.
just finished the quest wherein liloupar decided to face her sins and the chaos she had done during her prime. i was stunned and speechless after she whispered something to the traveler’s for the final time and after that, i kept asking to myself “she left us???”
also the reason why i looked up her lore and stumbled upon your video. very well explained :D i got confused on some parts during the quest so i have to do a double take just to make sure i understand it correctly
You know, by the time I've finished the whole quest line, I literally felt sad when thinking about everything and everyone in this story EXCEPT Liloupar. Shirin, Shiruyeh and all of Gurabad's folks deserve my sympathy, but Liloupar's action is something that I would never forgive. Sure, I kinda understand why she had to punish her love (Ormazd) for not living up to her expectation, and I do understand the whole "Jinni blessings carry consequences" thing, but the fact that she was willing to punish the whole three generations instead of just punishing her husband (I mean her husband's death alone is very fucked up) while ironically telling us (The Traveller) that she still love her daughter and grandson like a proper mother/grandma should, which is a lot more worse considering that she was more concerned about revenge on her long dead husband that she even mentally torture her own descendants instead of trying to alleviate their suffering. And seriously, the Tanit tribe may or may not be fully aware of her manipulation that led to Gurabad's downfall, they still revere Liloupar hoping that the Jinni could help them restore the desert back to their lush state, and Liloupar literally acts like a racist Karen acting as if the humans she met just now are as the same as her husband once been. Shirin and Shiruyeh?? Based on lore tidbits I can find so far, it is clear to me that the desert folks are treating them like some Antichrist reborn despite their whole actions being driven by their Liloupar's fucked up desire for revenge. So yeah, Shirin, Shiruyeh and Gurabad's fate is certainly tragic. Liloupar, less so.
I've read some of the inscriptions on the obelist and on one of the task given by Deshret to Ormazd was the construction of the Eternal Oasis. Something else must have happened when Liloupar made her decision. Shirin and Kisra were also not that innocent. Every decision they made was their own, Liloupar only fanned the flames. Shiruyeh is probably the only one who got truly manipulated.
It is like many other myths and tales, the prejudice of higher entities always thinks that humans are greedy and selfish. And the truth is not very far from personal perspective, corruption always happens over time as well as erosion in genshin
@@inquisitor200 Shirin was cursed to be the vessel for her mothers vengeance, and you understand why she’d felt resentful enough to follow that prophecy through when you see how horribly she was treated her entire life. Innocent, maybe not, but still ultimately deserving of sympathy.
Great video lore as always. You really bring justice to GI's lore upon people who only spend a few hours to main quest and call it trash and boring. I never stop being amazed how teyvat's world building through side quests and world quests. These quests really make traverler being a real watcher as zhongli said. sadly, they are voiceless, but we all know how much GB needed if all these quests are voiced. I just hope that MHY will add another wish system for these NPC (maybe by mora, but a third type wish is still ok), like not being playable but like companion for traverler, cannot be onfield, but we can summon them to fight with us in a shottime.
Is it because GI is an anime style game but doesn't follow most anime game stories which are more straight forward and more focused on character development instead of the world itself? So most of the players that is familiar with anime games expected similar storytelling. The way GI deliver it's stories reminds me of most western RPG which tends to focus on the world, like Knights of The Old Republic, Neverwinter Nights, Diablo, Elder Scroll, etc and some minority J-RPG like Legend of Mana, Suikoden 1 & 2.
Liloupar's anger is really scary. Cursing her own blood...her mind must be made of steel. And what I am amazed is that she just have to tell three prophecies. Everyone blindly follow (try to make them come true or become scared of them). In the end they become the ones who start the fire and liloupar just need to add oil. Mastermind behind the curtain!😰 Then everything fucked up & she just has to use abyss power to put an end. Some people sure change cuz of power/wealth/love/greed. This is...just human nature even irl. So if she wanted revenge she should have killed that lowly being!(tear him apart or slice him a thousand cut,I don't care) Why bother to manipulate & wait three generations. Oh...poor children & innocent cilivians😢 She deserve punishment. Just a thought tho. I wonder...did her lover regert deceiving her & abusing her power?
wdym sumeru underground is the best part. feeling like you need help triggers your survivals instincts to kick in, i did most exploration content early just so i dont look up detailed guides other than interactive map (i use to tick off checkboxes)
Can you make a video about the "falcon" quest? The one before we found the city of gurabad.... I still can't believe we are actually having a "till death duel" in this game....
*SPOILER* imo i think Tadhla just doesnt want to be her father's "Falcon" anymore so the duel was kind of like an assisted su1cid3 so she can rest peacefully as the traveler's "friend"
Genshin lore, the thing that has me on the edge of my seat every time RUclips explanations and summaries like this, for all of this unsettling background plot is also just so amazing. 😤😆
This is the only time i actually knew the whole thing in the video before watching it. I really got into the lore this time and paid attention carefully.
So basically Liloupar and her Jinni race are just yanderes cranked up to 11 and the downfall of Gurabad is because Ormazd fell in love with a yandere. I guess the traveler and paimon dodged a bullet at the end there.
It’s really interesting to see how Genshin Impact is weaving classical world literatures into the game stories. It’s specially noticeable in world quests. 3.4 world quest is reminding me of various Greek mythological tragedies like - Agamemnon, Libation - Bearers, Oedipus Rex and so on. This world quest is definitely a tragedy because it brings out both pity and fear as the story unfolds. As we have seen in Shakespearean tragedies, tragic hero or characters do certain things even they know the consequences and risks of failing. It’s showed in many tragedies that some unknown forces or extraterrestrial power play some role in those tragedies, but they are not directly involved. As we study them, we understand that those forces are actually inner desires. In literature, extraterrestrial forces are very different in term of human values and judgement. Zeus who is trying to kill his own children, he is too judging mortal human action and punishing them. By the way, this video is really good.
First we got Golden Slumber where Jeht's father sacrifice himself then we got this new chain quest where we know liloupar backstory. I really like the world quest because we got reality check that not all story have sweet ending in the end and we just got cliffhanger for next Jeht's quest in the future again, probaly gonna be the final quest for the dessert world quest.
there are so many long comments.. I like this community.. also props to bluehat cat spending time to choose similar animations for the background. I hope hoyoverse will get around to make some animations to these stories too.. maybe not for the anime though.. coz the plan for it is still long time away.. simpler animations should be enough
2:13 Let us all not forget the fact that when we first met Liloupar, the Jinni said that she transformed into many shape and size to "pleasure" Ormazd, including a dancer, a yaksha (Xiao is not safe), a little girl (FBI incoming) and even monsters (furry, tentacle, whatever was in that dude's imagination)... Ormazd was WILD, my guy have seen it all thanks to the power of Jinnussy 🤣 I kinda knew the storyline in Sumeru is gonna be filled with both sexual and assassination content. Cause Egypt and India is like very famous for their long long looooong history of betrayal, assassination, incest and sexual desire (a.k.a The infamous Kamasutra)
Thanks for these, Cat! Condensing lore to easy digestible bites makes Genshin, overall, more enjoyable. Would it be possible to have a format where these are read? So we can listen while doing other stuff instead of being glued to the screen
I really started to like lilouphar, but after the fallen falcon i knew she also would leave. But well at the end she finally able to meet her children's. Hope we meet once again in 3.6 update
Thanks for making the video! I don't know if it's just the English translation, but Genshin loves to use the actual dialogue for fluff and tons of Paimon repetitions, then actual interesting lore is scattered around and hidden in notes that are too long to read mid-playing and out of order. Can't help but be a little salty how the most interesting characters in the game are generic NPCs or a flying bottle, while the characters we pay for are usually boiled down to "overworked waifu", "cook", "girl obsessed with death" or "thousands year old god but they only talk about the weather and food".
Thank you so much for this. I did the quest and read everything without skipping yet it was still confusing. With your vid, you basically made it so much easier. The story is so fucked up that I immediately felt speechless. In the end, I just felt bad for the innocent. Its truly tragic and love is truly poisonous. It drives anybody crazy. Another thing, I'm so confused with Liloupars words, claiming that she still loves her kids after what had happen, like really? I mean, I guess her sense of morality is different from me, who is obviously a human but I just cant accept it. Like I wanna asked her where she get the audacity to claim that she loves her child after what had happened. They just died like that. Like I understand that humans can be corrupted but... ahh! nevermind hahaha I'm just gonna go crazy thinking hard of it. Anws, I love Hyv for this, really made you feel all sort of emotions and showing us different kinds of morality from Liloupar to us, humans. I just love it. Thank you for this vid!
You do need her to like explore the place and deal with sandstorms and vortexes. But its fine she goes away in the in the end, leaving only the Exploration gadget part of her.
i see some lore crafters on reddit writing the desert's timeliine and stuff... hope to see some videos from you that possibly wrap/sum up any new desert lore + goddess of flower (and her eternal realm) lore!!
@youngveins869 especially as it is right now, if it had a database of consenting artists, then that would be fine for me, but it isn't so seeing it around is a bit disheartening
@@YukimaruDesu yeah that actually sounds like a better concept. i personally don’t mind machine made things, as long as they do something else aside from just chewing up things some human has already made, without said human’s consent
hi, i just wanna point out that the goddess of flowers was probably a seelie who was cursed and her civilization destroyed during the war btwn the primordial one and the second who came. after she was wounded, streams flowed form her wounds etc and jinni were bron form the stream, and padisarahs bloomed where she stepped. just wanna add that. good video otherwise. pls heart this .
Btw....were those purple flowers under mount damavand, the real padisarahs....coz Nilou and Dunyarzad said that it looked like bright purple in the quest.... That reminds me, doesn't Mount Damavand is named after a real mountain....although the real may or may not look like the one in game
i think its pretty much is, liloufar said that the flower is born with the likened of goddess of flower because her remain is still there (which is actually false since her remain is nowhere to be found)
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.. Me tired already to do the quest so cant focus to the story. GOD AND GODDESS BLESS YOU FOR MAKIN' THIS anyway, will you make one too about King Deshret and Nabu Malikata (wish type it correctly)?? I still confused about the ETERNAL OASIS lore.
The story of Gurabad comes from the Sassanid empire , one of the Persian old city in the land of Persia also is Gur which means the sun city. The first king is Ormazd, this name comes from the Jupiter god in Avesta the Zarathustra book .
I was also really upset but then I read one of the stone slates. Ferrigees was already so fragmented at that point that it was questuonable whether she was still Ferrigees or just a machine with memories of Ferrigees.
In Islamic belief, there’s a saying that goes like this: The most good Jinn is like the evilest human. So Liloupar’s actions kinda fit this description. Maybe Hoyoverse did actually do their homework.
u can find so many folklore in islamic book quran and i dont know why they said quran as book from god. Alexander Romance The Testament of Solomon The Seven Sleepers Genesis Rabbah 38.13 The Live of Adam and Eve The Infancy Gospel of James The Infancy Gospel of Thomas The Second Treatise of the Great Seth pls do research by your self.
I got a Genshin impact ad about Faruzan and you can't fathom the intense grin i did thinking to myself "you mister is the single most confident bitch I've met in this wretched game"
Where was it mentioned about Liloupar specifically using the powers of the abyss to start the plague in Gurabad? Jinni's have abyssal power? That's kinda wild.
I'd add something extra, if you guys remember "the whispering parchment" (or if already done the short puzzle and got the chest, "misterius parchment"), open it (it's in inventory, scroll down to bottom part) and read it. Apparently Hasad the Golden Adventurer able to get inside Gurabad, and there they got cursed.
@@CatWithBlueHat my headcanon is that, among the reason you quoted, the fact that these quests are 'low profile' (no people involved except for the internal teams AND totally optional) is a mean to avoid censorship. You are not required to unlock the fog on Tsurumi Island, to open the portal to Enkanomiya or to unlock any of the ruins in both parts of the desert to progress the Main Story, after all. If you look at the most gruesome, sad and messed up quests of the game... they are basically all the unvoiced ones.
I don't know why i decided to rush this quest and pari's quest. I enjoyed aranara and understood everything but this was hard to digest. I am now not rushing and haven't touched Fontaine's quest yet.
Honestly if anyone could answer me it would be great but who is Liloupar exactly based on ? Obviously should be a persian figure but i don't know which one, Kisra, Shirin, Shiruyeh and Ormazd are all actual figures from the persian Sassanide empire duing the 6th-7th centuries. Kisra, Shirin and Shiruyeh are also in the tale of Khosrow and Shirin, which is a very similar tale to thoses of the book "One thousands and one nights" (Original Aladdin, Ali baba ect) but there no trace of a persian character named Liloupar even though i feel like i heard that name somewhere, or maybe she just got created for genshin specifically and i'm overthinking it but idk.
RIGHT! There were so many different ways the bottle could've dealt with the situation. Like even if your husband turns into a crazy tyrant, you don't have to let the kids fall to the same fate/worse. How can she love her kids when she got them killed out of spite?
@@zeera2854 Teyvat has its own “laws” as said in the loading screen. There must be jinn “laws” as well. For example, eye for an eye is a religious measure of justice. Liloupar was fair since she told ormazd that if her love is reciprocated by something else deemed unacceptable (tyranny), ormazd will reap *threefold* (paraphrased) The point here is that story keeps you engaged and that you will meditate on what you have learned
It must be jinn’s law that there will be curses for generations. In real life there is such effect known as “generational curse” when if a mother or any person made a massive error, the punishment will be passed down to generations
There are thousands of Asian folklore that ends with calamity, I am Indonesian and there was a similar story where mother cursed their child that lead to their doom called Malin Kundang (West Sumatra). I was shocked to hear that Gurabad calamity was started by brokenhearted mother cursed words, although not many people came from Asia, it is recommended to take every words coming from your birth mother and engraved them to your heart, some may not happen instantly, but most of their advices may arise in later life, these days my mother keep 'cursing' me for my rebellious phase and it shall passed down to my off springs later on but since I am not married nor in any sexual relationship, that can be arranged and postponed at least for 10-20 years later 🤧
Is it possible that King Deshret discovered the power of the Abyss after Liloupar used it to create the plague or he knew about it before? I´m talking about "the forbidden knowledge".
You know what was infuriating me the most while playing this quest? It is that both the quest and Paimon were trying to convince us that Liloupar may not be that bad after all! Like dude, she is despicable beyond words.. If i feel sympathy towards this mass genocidal maniac, then there is no reason for me not to feel sympathy towards a certain German painter.
Finally, another Liloupar hater. I especially despise how she talked down to the desertfolk as slaves and touted our blond travellers as masters. That was fucking disgusting.
@@jiyojiy6202 like at first, i thought that she will change for the better and actually apologise to Jeht. But apparently no! She acted like the stupid victim throughout the quest!!
@@notimetolive12 I felt cathartic relief when she apologised to Babel and said that Jeht was a good child, but this little demon in a bottle deserves no respect. She has no right to talk shit about the desertfolk even if she was also enslaved because all Jinns were made servants to Nabu Malikata and they loved their mistress? The desertfolk just aren’t slaves, and they are badly oppressed for arbitrary reasons because their powerful leaders continuously betray them while keeping them ignorant.
Remind me of Greek mythology so much, everyone who listen to the prophecy try to prevent it from happening end up making it happen exactly like the prophecy, in the end nothing can be changed at all
This video helped alot as I am a huge I dream of jeannie and aladdin fan. Not to mention shantae as well. The problem I had and was facing a dilemna was wether or not to finish the quest because I would feel sad and sorry for her. I wanted to prove her that I can be an amazing person to my travels but if I do that.. she would disappear and vanish into an abyssal city that has no one. I mean I could be wrong but I wanted to know what would happen if I ever completed the quest. Does she actually meet her kids? or would she become alone and that all that effort I accomplished was for nothing v_v?
Is it me or it sounds similar to Oedipus Rex? Like prophecy of the son will kill his father so father exiles the son etc 🤔 Really interesting lore anyways 🔥
@@JM2205s ummmm, please read Shirin and Shiruyeh book 2 the part where shirin disguised herself as a princess of the moon temple you would be surprised
i do really like lilloupar and i was really sad that she left us, i thought she would stay with the traveler cuz she found a new person whom she could stay with and be part of a long adventure with the traveler but.... sad 😢
Oh man, thanks for getting that lore in order. I found a lot of stuff out of sequence and struggled to get it into the right order, plus the sheer amount of information was a bit hard to digest. So having this video lay it all out comprehensively is awesome!
It's also an interesting story of lapses in judgment. Liloupar saw humans as greedy and corrupt beings, and yet chose love over her beliefs. She wanted that kind of happiness in spite of what she thought of humans, thinking that she had found the exception to the rule. She still warned Ormazd to not betray their pact, so she herself wasn't convinced of their love overcoming mortal desires. And as it turned out, it really didn't. Her curse was premeditated, and as she herself put it, her revenge would be to inflict the same pain threefold. So, as he betrayed her love, Liloupar would curse the three next in his generation to betray his love all the same.
It may seem overtly cruel to pull innocents into this love feud, but for starters, Liloupar doesn't share mortal values. To her, using her children to exact her revenge was no big deal, because she still loved them, and they were also Ormazd's children. At the same time, her children would also prove her right again and again, succumbing to selfish desires just like she would expect mortals to.
And as she herself noted, Liloupar doesn't regret her deeds. To her, this was a case of "fuck around and find out", and Ormazd certainly found out. She warned him, and he ignored it, at that point, all responsibility fell on him, at least in her eyes. She simply did what she had to, which was to take revenge on him for breaking her heart, and she felt justified even in her last moments with you and Paimon. However, that didn't stop her from facing the consequences of her actions and accepting her own karma.
At the end of it all, I really liked Liloupar. Another character on my growing list of "NPC's that I want to see become playable".
Beautifully written comment! I absolutely love your interpretation.
I like her character too! She isn't human and has her own moral values that she abides by, and as per them, she faces her judgement in the end.
Nice, that took a while to read but makes so much sense
Wonderful comment! I agree a lot with this that she doesn't share mortal values and that she doesn't regret what she had done but realizes that consequences and karma are still coming around for her.
"Fuck around and find out" is such a good summary for this lore tbh
I am actually confused with the last words liloupar said "I know fate will arrange for us to meet again. I believe... I have made the right choice", she said they might meet again so does it mean liloupar is not actually dead. and what does she mean by "I believe...I have made right choice" which right choice she was indicating.
@@SahajNagarwal I guess she means both her decision to make Traveler her master, as well as returning to Gurabad. She's most likely confident that you will find a way to bring salvation to the souls trapped in the Abyss that swallowed Gurabad. That, in turn, also implies that Gurabad will become a future area, probably a separate location in the same vein as Enkanomiya.
I forgot to add this point.
Kisra was actually blood related to Shirin and was her biological brother. The whole "adoptive son" was a lie. This also explains why their son Shiruyeh wore a mask as children born of incestual relationships are born with biological deformities.
sweet home alabama
This was one of the few times my jaw dropped to the ground-
Idk if the desert is inspired by Egypt but in ancient Egypt, it is not weird to marry among siblings... In fact it is to keep the bloodline ✨pure✨ even Cleopatra married her own brother, Ptolemy before meeting Caesar....
Classic "to keep the bloodline pure" moment
yeah, i never saw any mention of kisra being adopted. Just that he was a brother and of liloupar's own blood
I love Liloupar as a character, she deserves to be punished, but remember, she isn't human. We may never fully understand Jinns but I'm glad that at the last moment, she faces the consequences of her actions. Such a tragic tale for a beautiful city and its people. Also, being in the eternal city knowing everything while hearing that OST is truly heartbreaking and yet it all just feels right. Thank for summarizing this. The past video you did also helped.
I love her character too! Most players constantly forget that she's not human, so she doesn't share same moral values. Jinn are mysterious beings and very different from humans.
When I started to like her & her duo commentary with Paimon, she's just gone 🤣. She & Paimon commenting on people's appearance, actions & speeches are just hilarious. Was hoping to travel with both of em, turns out Liloupar choose to stay.
@@diazpramudita5165 ikr! 🤣
We can't fix her, and we don't need to ))
Shirin and Kisra's story is Genshin's version of the tragic romance of Shirin and Khosrow from the 11th century Persian epic Shahnameh, which is popular in both India and the Middle East (Kisra is Arabic for Khosrow after all). They were also real-life historical figures: Khosrow II was the ruler of the Sassanid Empire and his wife Shirin was a Christian princess (probably Armenian too).
In the Shahnameh, Shiruyeh was Shirin's stepson and murdered Khosrow to marry Shirin (bro said 'I'm not the stepson, I'm the son who stepped up')
Our shiruyeh also step up hurhurhur
Wow, there are really some great stories out there waiting for us to read.
And I never expect some of these stories are based on true historical events.
i knew i recognized this story. thx for the confirmation :)
Demn. When going through the quest & exploratiom it feels like I ever read the story somewhere when I was a child, like a feeling of dejavu but just can't remember it. Now I know.
Sheeesh
In Liloupar's case... What's goes around come around, her love was the cause of everything to the point that she curse her own three generations of descendant to face a misery ending and at last all karma she committed brought back to herself at the end
King Deshret punished Liloupar mainly because she indirectly destroyed an entire country to the detriment of the higher ruler - King Deshret. If revenge had only been with her husband, things might have been different, but What's goes around come around, her husband's son and her daughter's husband, is still the same person - bad ruler. Leading to the destruction of an entire empire is only a matter of time
It seems that many Genshin impact lores get reference from real-life histories and folktales. Man, the developer real digs up a lot of histories that most youngsters or adults don't even remember or heard before.
Yea....all they have to do is extract those stories and make it relatable to fit it in genshin lore
Gurabad is basically Game of Thrones in Teyvat. I mean holy heck, the number of betrayals and death. Shirin poisoning 299 of her siblings including her father is more body count than Arya can do.
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@@spymadmax584 no, Liloupar the Jinni was her mother. Shirin poisoned all 299 mortal siblings of her
@@spymadmax584 yup, pretty 'effed up
And got all the servants at the party to take the blame. They killed all the servant s by drowning them in barrels of honey.
Night of the long knifes, genshin version.
i didnt want to rush this world quest but its just so great i couldnt help myself. i was so invested in such a tragic story, i'm glad genshin is improving a lot with their dialogues and story telling
This quest was so tragic and effed up even though I read every fake book in Genshin and gasped when she told us her name at first. xD
Honestly i don’t remember the last time I had gotten attached to a quest like this. Especially after unlocking paradise. It’s just just ≈_≈ … it’s up there with the feels. HELL ITS THE ONE QUETS WHRE I ACTUALLY READ EVERY DIALOGUE. imagine
Liloupar is so relatable... Wish she could come back someday for a new quest, maybe even with a human form :(
Bless you and your channel for explaining all this! The information was so fragmented and all over the place that we discover in non-chronological order, such that I only had a vague inkling of what happened, but not in detail (The fact we can't save and document the info we find in the open world and later peruse them when we have more of the pieces, makes it so hard). You have filled in the blanks in such a smooth way and saved me a huge headache of trying to remember this all in order. The story and details really show how much depth Genshin puts into it's lore.
I do feel bad for Liloupar, but it's still messed up to curse your own children and descendants because your own problems consumed you.
It may feel right in the moment to seek revenge, but it'll came back to bite you later on.
isnt it more like she's just clueless at what the right thing to do, so she is doing the easy way out? ngl never in my whole life i thought side characters need emotional support but she's definitely one but alas its too late
It certainly did, no matter what Liloupar loved her children, even as she used them to enact her vengeance. So she returned to the abyss to face her children and by extension her mistakes.
King Deshret punished Liloupar mainly because she indirectly destroyed an entire country to the detriment of the higher ruler - King Deshret. If revenge had only been with her husband, things might have been different, but What's goes around come around, her husband's son and her daughter's husband, is still the same person - bad ruler. Leading to the destruction of an entire empire is only a matter of time
Not to mention dooming so many innocent civilians. In the heat of the moment, she dragged folks, who were not involved in the matter, into her thirst for revenge. For me, I feel less incline to give her my sympathy.
It's part of the whole reason why Liloupar tells us that falling in love for a Jinni is dangerous.
The fact that Shirin’s spirit is said to haunt the desert, searching for her lost child Shiruyeh really has me thinking. In the tale of Shiruyeh and Shirin, the narrator seems to be a Jinn girl telling this story to a young human boy she calls her "Raven". When she finishes telling it to him, the book concludes with a line about how she is about to start a ritual, seemingly involving the boy. If this book is reliable, and fairytales usually are more reliable than history books in Genshin, I think the child could be Dottore, whose animal motif is definitely a raven. The Jinn girl would be whatever remained of Shirin, desperate to bring back her lost son. She may have started a ritual that either succeeded or failed
It's crazy to think how many stories Genshin contains. Like our journey itself and the existence of traveler itself is a web of questions. Thanks to you for sharing the lore in the game.
I spent my lunar year holiday finishing this quest and in my opinion this is the best world quest in genshin. The music, the lore made me depressed just like Honkai Impact story made me depressed. I haven't find and read all the sacred seal but from this video, the story is wholesome. Thank you sir for compiling this story❤️👍
@@spymadmax584 Homu Labs is a great honkai lore youtuber
Yup. The second we walked into the tunnels and found the campsites where the desert folk had resorted to cannibalism I knew it was going to be quite the ride.
@@mars9986 the What 😀?
@@blob4559 it’s heavily implied in records of Gurabad 5
@@spymadmax584 potato almanac is one who explains honkai lore in monke language
Liloupar: My children are waiting for me
Me, at 80% exploration: No u don't
Thanks for the complete story of Liloupar :) After completing the quests and reading info in books and other places I was still unsure about certain parts of the full story (and didn't realize others you mentioned). Now I have a clear idea of her life, which feels great !
thank you! istg i couldn't understand a single thing while playing and it is amazing how you could piece it all together in such a simplified and understandable format. thank youuu!
If a jinn is capable of this, i fear dori's mora obsession ain't her own
You did an amazing job compiling this much information and summarising it. Honestly, Genshin did such amazing jobs with the past few quests. The world quest shows just how much of a deep lore teyvat contains. They pick up real-life stories, and histories and 'Genshinise' them, and they turn out great!
I was waiting for you to cover this quest line. Even though I figured the events that took place, I appreciate the effort you put into interpreting it in chronological order. Can't wait to see what will Babel plot this time.
Liloupar's story could have been an entire anime series!
Liloupar is so cute💜 i miss her. When she asked babel to dance for the traveler i was laughing so much. I wish she had voice actress
just finished the quest wherein liloupar decided to face her sins and the chaos she had done during her prime. i was stunned and speechless after she whispered something to the traveler’s for the final time and after that, i kept asking to myself “she left us???”
also the reason why i looked up her lore and stumbled upon your video. very well explained :D i got confused on some parts during the quest so i have to do a double take just to make sure i understand it correctly
Ever since the start of sumeru i feel so overwhelmed by the lores of the ruins and ancient civilizations so this was really helpful.
You know, by the time I've finished the whole quest line, I literally felt sad when thinking about everything and everyone in this story EXCEPT Liloupar. Shirin, Shiruyeh and all of Gurabad's folks deserve my sympathy, but Liloupar's action is something that I would never forgive.
Sure, I kinda understand why she had to punish her love (Ormazd) for not living up to her expectation, and I do understand the whole "Jinni blessings carry consequences" thing, but the fact that she was willing to punish the whole three generations instead of just punishing her husband (I mean her husband's death alone is very fucked up) while ironically telling us (The Traveller) that she still love her daughter and grandson like a proper mother/grandma should, which is a lot more worse considering that she was more concerned about revenge on her long dead husband that she even mentally torture her own descendants instead of trying to alleviate their suffering.
And seriously, the Tanit tribe may or may not be fully aware of her manipulation that led to Gurabad's downfall, they still revere Liloupar hoping that the Jinni could help them restore the desert back to their lush state, and Liloupar literally acts like a racist Karen acting as if the humans she met just now are as the same as her husband once been. Shirin and Shiruyeh?? Based on lore tidbits I can find so far, it is clear to me that the desert folks are treating them like some Antichrist reborn despite their whole actions being driven by their Liloupar's fucked up desire for revenge.
So yeah, Shirin, Shiruyeh and Gurabad's fate is certainly tragic. Liloupar, less so.
I've read some of the inscriptions on the obelist and on one of the task given by Deshret to Ormazd was the construction of the Eternal Oasis. Something else must have happened when Liloupar made her decision.
Shirin and Kisra were also not that innocent. Every decision they made was their own, Liloupar only fanned the flames. Shiruyeh is probably the only one who got truly manipulated.
If I could break her jar after the quest, I would
It is like many other myths and tales, the prejudice of higher entities always thinks that humans are greedy and selfish. And the truth is not very far from personal perspective, corruption always happens over time as well as erosion in genshin
THIS.
@@inquisitor200 Shirin was cursed to be the vessel for her mothers vengeance, and you understand why she’d felt resentful enough to follow that prophecy through when you see how horribly she was treated her entire life. Innocent, maybe not, but still ultimately deserving of sympathy.
entering that time stopped room at 1 am after playing 12 hours felt different
Great video lore as always. You really bring justice to GI's lore upon people who only spend a few hours to main quest and call it trash and boring. I never stop being amazed how teyvat's world building through side quests and world quests. These quests really make traverler being a real watcher as zhongli said. sadly, they are voiceless, but we all know how much GB needed if all these quests are voiced. I just hope that MHY will add another wish system for these NPC (maybe by mora, but a third type wish is still ok), like not being playable but like companion for traverler, cannot be onfield, but we can summon them to fight with us in a shottime.
Is it because GI is an anime style game but doesn't follow most anime game stories which are more straight forward and more focused on character development instead of the world itself? So most of the players that is familiar with anime games expected similar storytelling.
The way GI deliver it's stories reminds me of most western RPG which tends to focus on the world, like Knights of The Old Republic, Neverwinter Nights, Diablo, Elder Scroll, etc and some minority J-RPG like Legend of Mana, Suikoden 1 & 2.
Mmm excuse me but
Why nobody talks about the fact that Liloupar called (Lumine in my case) "the princess in exile" the fist time they meet?
Liloupar's anger is really scary. Cursing her own blood...her mind must be made of steel. And what I am amazed is that she just have to tell three prophecies. Everyone blindly follow (try to make them come true or become scared of them). In the end they become the ones who start the fire and liloupar just need to add oil. Mastermind behind the curtain!😰 Then everything fucked up & she just has to use abyss power to put an end.
Some people sure change cuz of power/wealth/love/greed. This is...just human nature even irl.
So if she wanted revenge she should have killed that lowly being!(tear him apart or slice him a thousand cut,I don't care) Why bother to manipulate & wait three generations.
Oh...poor children & innocent cilivians😢
She deserve punishment.
Just a thought tho. I wonder...did her lover regert deceiving her & abusing her power?
Liloupar is the scariest entity in Genshin so far for me. Hope this scary pet won’t plot anything against our traveller in the future
i love how mihoyo build their lore but not with the exploration.. dude that underground maze almost drive me insane just to be at 100% completion
wdym sumeru underground is the best part. feeling like you need help triggers your survivals instincts to kick in, i did most exploration content early just so i dont look up detailed guides other than interactive map (i use to tick off checkboxes)
Can you make a video about the "falcon" quest? The one before we found the city of gurabad.... I still can't believe we are actually having a "till death duel" in this game....
@@spymadmax584 literally dueling until one of them dies
fr i really liked her but that father forced her to fight us just so she became his falcon
*SPOILER*
imo i think Tadhla just doesnt want to be her father's "Falcon" anymore so the duel was kind of like an assisted su1cid3 so she can rest peacefully as the traveler's "friend"
We had those duels in Inazuma with iwakura clans remaining guys whom we wiped off one by one
@@keitokarl And said "father" ran off to hide like a miserable coward after that.
4:15 that very line is something I've heard somewhere but i cannot recollect. It was in connection with industrial revolution
Genshin lore, the thing that has me on the edge of my seat every time
RUclips explanations and summaries like this, for all of this unsettling background plot is also just so amazing. 😤😆
😭 i didnt get the whole story before and got confused, this really help a lot
I can’t feel sorry for Liloupar, because establishing prophecy is the best way to twist humans’ heads.
This is the only time i actually knew the whole thing in the video before watching it. I really got into the lore this time and paid attention carefully.
Love your lore summaries and analysis so much! Work been busy lately so watching your video helps me a lot to keep up with genshin lores =]
So basically Liloupar and her Jinni race are just yanderes cranked up to 11 and the downfall of Gurabad is because Ormazd fell in love with a yandere.
I guess the traveler and paimon dodged a bullet at the end there.
It’s really interesting to see how Genshin Impact is weaving classical world literatures into the game stories. It’s specially noticeable in world quests. 3.4 world quest is reminding me of various Greek mythological tragedies like - Agamemnon, Libation - Bearers, Oedipus Rex and so on. This world quest is definitely a tragedy because it brings out both pity and fear as the story unfolds. As we have seen in Shakespearean tragedies, tragic hero or characters do certain things even they know the consequences and risks of failing. It’s showed in many tragedies that some unknown forces or extraterrestrial power play some role in those tragedies, but they are not directly involved. As we study them, we understand that those forces are actually inner desires. In literature, extraterrestrial forces are very different in term of human values and judgement. Zeus who is trying to kill his own children, he is too judging mortal human action and punishing them. By the way, this video is really good.
Hey man
Loved your story telling technique
It's well explained
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Thanks for explaining this in Razor.
First we got Golden Slumber where Jeht's father sacrifice himself then we got this new chain quest where we know liloupar backstory. I really like the world quest because we got reality check that not all story have sweet ending in the end and we just got cliffhanger for next Jeht's quest in the future again, probaly gonna be the final quest for the dessert world quest.
there are so many long comments.. I like this community..
also props to bluehat cat spending time to choose similar animations for the background. I hope hoyoverse will get around to make some animations to these stories too.. maybe not for the anime though.. coz the plan for it is still long time away.. simpler animations should be enough
2:13 Let us all not forget the fact that when we first met Liloupar, the Jinni said that she transformed into many shape and size to "pleasure" Ormazd, including a dancer, a yaksha (Xiao is not safe), a little girl (FBI incoming) and even monsters (furry, tentacle, whatever was in that dude's imagination)... Ormazd was WILD, my guy have seen it all thanks to the power of Jinnussy 🤣 I kinda knew the storyline in Sumeru is gonna be filled with both sexual and assassination content. Cause Egypt and India is like very famous for their long long looooong history of betrayal, assassination, incest and sexual desire (a.k.a The infamous Kamasutra)
this video is the whole story of the books title "shirin and shiruyeh"
Thanks for these, Cat! Condensing lore to easy digestible bites makes Genshin, overall, more enjoyable. Would it be possible to have a format where these are read? So we can listen while doing other stuff instead of being glued to the screen
I really started to like lilouphar, but after the fallen falcon i knew she also would leave. But well at the end she finally able to meet her children's. Hope we meet once again in 3.6 update
Thanks for making the video! I don't know if it's just the English translation, but Genshin loves to use the actual dialogue for fluff and tons of Paimon repetitions, then actual interesting lore is scattered around and hidden in notes that are too long to read mid-playing and out of order. Can't help but be a little salty how the most interesting characters in the game are generic NPCs or a flying bottle, while the characters we pay for are usually boiled down to "overworked waifu", "cook", "girl obsessed with death" or "thousands year old god but they only talk about the weather and food".
mobile phone limitation my friend mihoyo dont have choice.
Thank you so much for this. I did the quest and read everything without skipping yet it was still confusing. With your vid, you basically made it so much easier. The story is so fucked up that I immediately felt speechless. In the end, I just felt bad for the innocent. Its truly tragic and love is truly poisonous. It drives anybody crazy. Another thing, I'm so confused with Liloupars words, claiming that she still loves her kids after what had happen, like really? I mean, I guess her sense of morality is different from me, who is obviously a human but I just cant accept it. Like I wanna asked her where she get the audacity to claim that she loves her child after what had happened. They just died like that. Like I understand that humans can be corrupted but... ahh! nevermind hahaha I'm just gonna go crazy thinking hard of it.
Anws, I love Hyv for this, really made you feel all sort of emotions and showing us different kinds of morality from Liloupar to us, humans. I just love it. Thank you for this vid!
If completing this quest means freeing Liloupar, then I'll just ignore it. Keep that crazy thing locked up.
Out of all the people we helped she's the least deserving.
Spoilers ahead
When you finish the whole questline, she goes back to Gurabad.
You do need her to like explore the place and deal with sandstorms and vortexes. But its fine she goes away in the in the end, leaving only the Exploration gadget part of her.
Why are you mad it’s just a game
@Twinkieerella Mad? Well, that's a silly assumption.
Could you do the falcon's quest summary also...I couldn't make heads or tails as to why traveler would kill her when he easily could subdue her.
Most likely orders from her father. She was forced to either die or kill her only friend, so she wanted the traveler to kill her.
@@azyo7101 Mihoyo should give us a chance to kill that asshole mofo just hide somewhere safe after all that shit
im too busy to read all the dialogs thats why i thank you for these types vids
i see some lore crafters on reddit writing the desert's timeliine and stuff... hope to see some videos from you that possibly wrap/sum up any new desert lore + goddess of flower (and her eternal realm) lore!!
Lovely lore video as usual, sad about Ai Art, as interesting as it can be for faceless characters in lore.
couldn't agree more! i really love Cat's videos, but ai art is pure art theft, i wish people stopped using it...
@youngveins869 especially as it is right now, if it had a database of consenting artists, then that would be fine for me, but it isn't so seeing it around is a bit disheartening
@@YukimaruDesu yeah that actually sounds like a better concept. i personally don’t mind machine made things, as long as they do something else aside from just chewing up things some human has already made, without said human’s consent
@youngveins869 very true, I'll never be against true technological advancement as a digital artist, just won't consider stealing an advancement.
Its epic~
May u make more lore summary? I think Inazuma still have lots of lore and story to tell~
1:53 planning to make a liloupar ai, where did you found the art?
hi, i just wanna point out that the goddess of flowers was probably a seelie who was cursed and her civilization destroyed during the war btwn the primordial one and the second who came. after she was wounded, streams flowed form her wounds etc and jinni were bron form the stream, and padisarahs bloomed where she stepped. just wanna add that. good video otherwise. pls heart this .
How is that relevant? This is a video detailing history of Gurabad, not the Goddess of Flowers.
@@adiaphoros6842 even if it isn’t related..it’s still interesting to share with thoughts about Genshin lore like any comments do
was waiting for your video to explain cuz while i did read all the stone slates and information, i can’t piece it together for the life of me 😂
Btw....were those purple flowers under mount damavand, the real padisarahs....coz Nilou and Dunyarzad said that it looked like bright purple in the quest....
That reminds me, doesn't Mount Damavand is named after a real mountain....although the real may or may not look like the one in game
i think its pretty much is, liloufar said that the flower is born with the likened of goddess of flower because her remain is still there (which is actually false since her remain is nowhere to be found)
Yes it is a real mountain in Iran but the appearance is not like that
@@taraalehabib8075 ikr😉
are those the flowers that we interact with doing puzzles in which we rewind time?
@@BiBiren no..when you enter the second cave....don't you see those huge flowers....I am talking about that
4:35 _salve owner sounds like an interesting job_
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS..
Me tired already to do the quest so cant focus to the story. GOD AND GODDESS BLESS YOU FOR MAKIN' THIS
anyway, will you make one too about King Deshret and Nabu Malikata (wish type it correctly)?? I still confused about the ETERNAL OASIS lore.
World quest feel really different from the main story.
The story of Gurabad comes from the Sassanid empire , one of the Persian old city in the land of Persia also is Gur which means the sun city.
The first king is Ormazd, this name comes from the Jupiter god in Avesta the Zarathustra book .
Killing Ferrigees made me feel like an absolutely worthless human being and I will likely be salty about it for a long time to come.
I was also really upset but then I read one of the stone slates.
Ferrigees was already so fragmented at that point that it was questuonable whether she was still Ferrigees or just a machine with memories of Ferrigees.
I hated Liloupar even more after that. She's a complete C*nt.
I feel like Ferrigees got screwed over the most out of everyone in Gurabad. Well, at least we put her out of her misery
Her own sister killed her in cold blood. I thought we were freeing her, not silencing her in death.
Liloupar did warn him... but he never took it seriously.
Still wondering when will we meet Liloupar again, hopefully gurabad will be an area just like Enka or chasm when this time come
Wasnt the Jinn talking about Tabibito being an exiled prince/princess? What is that all about. That reminds me of the battlepass story.
I REALLY LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
In Islamic belief, there’s a saying that goes like this: The most good Jinn is like the evilest human. So Liloupar’s actions kinda fit this description. Maybe Hoyoverse did actually do their homework.
u can find so many folklore in islamic book quran and i dont know why they said quran as book from god.
Alexander Romance
The Testament of Solomon
The Seven Sleepers
Genesis Rabbah 38.13
The Live of Adam and Eve
The Infancy Gospel of James
The Infancy Gospel of Thomas
The Second Treatise of the Great Seth
pls do research by your self.
Love your lore vids
I got a Genshin impact ad about Faruzan and you can't fathom the intense grin i did thinking to myself "you mister is the single most confident bitch I've met in this wretched game"
Liloupar split to seven parts just like playable character with Constellations.
Where was it mentioned about Liloupar specifically using the powers of the abyss to start the plague in Gurabad? Jinni's have abyssal power? That's kinda wild.
For some reason its remind me the story of Medea. How she uses her children to get revenge despite loving them
love the video can you do a video on the quest please
dang i really like the AI images you used to represent the characters♥
I'd add something extra, if you guys remember "the whispering parchment" (or if already done the short puzzle and got the chest, "misterius parchment"), open it (it's in inventory, scroll down to bottom part) and read it. Apparently Hasad the Golden Adventurer able to get inside Gurabad, and there they got cursed.
At this point, Genshin will teach more mythology and history than the school could do.
Who said we will not learn anything from games?
sandstorm area ost really gave me goosebumps
Seriously, the gall of making these world quest voiceless is baffling 😑
We should have VA voicing Jeth and Lilopar lah 💀
Well, then be prepared for a game who's size is over 150 GB on mobile.
@@CatWithBlueHat .... Fair enough 😑
@@CatWithBlueHat It's still would reach that threshold with all the regions combined though.
@@CatWithBlueHat my headcanon is that, among the reason you quoted, the fact that these quests are 'low profile' (no people involved except for the internal teams AND totally optional) is a mean to avoid censorship. You are not required to unlock the fog on Tsurumi Island, to open the portal to Enkanomiya or to unlock any of the ruins in both parts of the desert to progress the Main Story, after all.
If you look at the most gruesome, sad and messed up quests of the game... they are basically all the unvoiced ones.
@@UberWraith MIHOYO are doing the usual thing with depression, or they're into something 😑
I was hoping to see Liloupar in her humar form before she left.. ಥ‿ಥ
I don't know why i decided to rush this quest and pari's quest. I enjoyed aranara and understood everything but this was hard to digest. I am now not rushing and haven't touched Fontaine's quest yet.
Honestly if anyone could answer me it would be great but who is Liloupar exactly based on ? Obviously should be a persian figure but i don't know which one, Kisra, Shirin, Shiruyeh and Ormazd are all actual figures from the persian Sassanide empire duing the 6th-7th centuries. Kisra, Shirin and Shiruyeh are also in the tale of Khosrow and Shirin, which is a very similar tale to thoses of the book "One thousands and one nights" (Original Aladdin, Ali baba ect) but there no trace of a persian character named Liloupar even though i feel like i heard that name somewhere, or maybe she just got created for genshin specifically and i'm overthinking it but idk.
bruh i feel 0 ounce of sympathy for that bottle like damn
It was ormazd’s fault for not paying heed to liloupar’s warning
RIGHT! There were so many different ways the bottle could've dealt with the situation. Like even if your husband turns into a crazy tyrant, you don't have to let the kids fall to the same fate/worse. How can she love her kids when she got them killed out of spite?
@@zeera2854 Teyvat has its own “laws” as said in the loading screen. There must be jinn “laws” as well. For example, eye for an eye is a religious measure of justice. Liloupar was fair since she told ormazd that if her love is reciprocated by something else deemed unacceptable (tyranny), ormazd will reap *threefold* (paraphrased)
The point here is that story keeps you engaged and that you will meditate on what you have learned
It must be jinn’s law that there will be curses for generations. In real life there is such effect known as “generational curse” when if a mother or any person made a massive error, the punishment will be passed down to generations
There are thousands of Asian folklore that ends with calamity, I am Indonesian and there was a similar story where mother cursed their child that lead to their doom called Malin Kundang (West Sumatra).
I was shocked to hear that Gurabad calamity was started by brokenhearted mother cursed words, although not many people came from Asia, it is recommended to take every words coming from your birth mother and engraved them to your heart, some may not happen instantly, but most of their advices may arise in later life, these days my mother keep 'cursing' me for my rebellious phase and it shall passed down to my off springs later on but since I am not married nor in any sexual relationship, that can be arranged and postponed at least for 10-20 years later 🤧
kekw typical asian mother
Is it possible that King Deshret discovered the power of the Abyss after Liloupar used it to create the plague or he knew about it before? I´m talking about "the forbidden knowledge".
I loved the lore. Wish this was voiced though...
You know what was infuriating me the most while playing this quest? It is that both the quest and Paimon were trying to convince us that Liloupar may not be that bad after all! Like dude, she is despicable beyond words..
If i feel sympathy towards this mass genocidal maniac, then there is no reason for me not to feel sympathy towards a certain German painter.
Right! She basically decided a horrible fate for her children and the whole kingdom because one person. I'm surprised so many people like her
Finally, another Liloupar hater. I especially despise how she talked down to the desertfolk as slaves and touted our blond travellers as masters. That was fucking disgusting.
@@jiyojiy6202 like at first, i thought that she will change for the better and actually apologise to Jeht. But apparently no! She acted like the stupid victim throughout the quest!!
@@notimetolive12 I felt cathartic relief when she apologised to Babel and said that Jeht was a good child, but this little demon in a bottle deserves no respect. She has no right to talk shit about the desertfolk even if she was also enslaved because all Jinns were made servants to Nabu Malikata and they loved their mistress? The desertfolk just aren’t slaves, and they are badly oppressed for arbitrary reasons because their powerful leaders continuously betray them while keeping them ignorant.
Remind me of Greek mythology so much, everyone who listen to the prophecy try to prevent it from happening end up making it happen exactly like the prophecy, in the end nothing can be changed at all
ah you mean, the story of Kronos and Zeus
Well, it’s too late to blame Ormazd for not following Liloupar’s wish, but yeah, the lore of Gurabad is pretty messed up.
liloupar got cursed into the abyss for eternity yassss
interesting story, loved Liloupar so much even she is a jinn, btw can i ask for link for Liloupar wallpaper as a character in the thumbnail, please ?
This video helped alot as I am a huge I dream of jeannie and aladdin fan. Not to mention shantae as well. The problem I had and was facing a dilemna was wether or not to finish the quest because I would feel sad and sorry for her. I wanted to prove her that I can be an amazing person to my travels but if I do that.. she would disappear and vanish into an abyssal city that has no one. I mean I could be wrong but I wanted to know what would happen if I ever completed the quest. Does she actually meet her kids? or would she become alone and that all that effort I accomplished was for nothing v_v?
yhooo u save my neck on this one it felt sooooo confusing and now i can sleep in peace, i dont have figure out wtf is going on lmaoo
Is it me or it sounds similar to Oedipus Rex?
Like prophecy of the son will kill his father so father exiles the son etc 🤔
Really interesting lore anyways 🔥
Hey, it is similar IMO too!
And the son married her own biological mother. Wait....
@@meagodgod6373 not that 💀
@@JM2205s ummmm, please read Shirin and Shiruyeh book 2
the part where shirin disguised herself as a princess of the moon temple
you would be surprised
i do really like lilloupar and i was really sad that she left us, i thought she would stay with the traveler cuz she found a new person whom she could stay with and be part of a long adventure with the traveler but.... sad 😢
very sad story of a jinni in the bottle T_T cried everytime