I'm so glad Simeon played again before passing on. I loved Suicide (R.I.P. Vega) early, but was late to grab their Silver Apples inspiration. May they all rock in peace. Blessed Be.
Rest In Power Simeon (with all the great artists from New York, Sylvain Sylvain, and Walter Lure died around the same time too) hopethere'sinstrumentsupthere...
@@anonUK it was also cheaper. "Surplus" used to go for pennies on the dollar. Many bikers also took advantage of this with their uniforms and spare parts
As a young boy, I fell in love with the music of the Silver Apples. I have an original (vinyl) copy of their first album. I was 15 when it dropped in '68. It's one of my prized musical possessions.
@@InfiniteGrenades Back in the 60s there was a radio station in Philadelphia called WIBG FM. No DJs... just programmed music. They played mostly psychedelic rock featuring bands such as Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Iron Butterfly, Blue Cheer, etc. Silver Apples was in pretty heavy rotation.
Meester Feesher Oh man...do U even realize,the substance of the question U were asking?If U do ,then U will realize why,U failed 2 receive a reply. I mean really,what dimension are U from?Did the Stargate U materialized from suffer an incomplete transmission,leaving some essential particles scattered about,in the wormhole?🤔
@@MattFisherComedy You know, I really don't remember. Here is a little snippet from Philly Radio Archives: _At this point, half of the day's programming was provided by a Gates automation system. At first it was a mix of pop standards, country and classical, but by the spring of 1968, some progressive rock was being played, although it was without announcers._
Surprised no ones mentioned her here or in the video. She was insanely good, she used god damn mathematics in her pieces, and stuff of hers surfaced that stills sounds relevant and modern.
I do believe if they had played another public concert and gotten arrested for playing they would be one of the most talked about bands of the century.
There would have been a public outcry over the incident, bolstering their public image as the band that got censored by 'the man.' It would have been glorious.
The same thing would also happen if they just made better music. There was so much good music in the late 60s/early 70s, but this ain't it. This is just some cringey avant-garde shit.
He sampled him instead of finding someone new because his friend lives on through that beat. That's his legacy, his conciousness beating those drums for eternity.
Gabriel Moore - We it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about. As the man below said "Beats are patterns". You can't have beats without patterns. That's the way they work.
@@warmswarm I believe they mean in loops. The closest thing I can relate this to is hip hop and their use of "break beats" and looping those. The drummer, to my ear at least, is doing something similar.
@@warmswarm in any case, what do you thing the narrator technically meant? I was trying to figure it out. Maybe he referred to the absence of measures? Shed some light bro!
2:49 this shot really struck me. The innocent humanity of children leaning into this mass of mechanical contaptions is a cool setup to start with, but more than that...... the pic seems to catch this pure, innocent curiosity and interest that all kids have before the world teaches them what they can and can't be curious about. They aren't afraid of this noisy Franken-machine, just fascinated. I love it.
I had the pleasure of opening for SA twice in the last 10 years. Simeon was a lovely, humble bloke and he even told me he loved my stuff which was so much of a compliment for me that i didn't believe it lol. He used to have all these amazing modular synths onstage and I only ever used my shitty little drum machine and an old Yamaha PSR 3 amongst other things. I couldn't believe a guy like Simeon would compliment a young noob like me, but that was just the kind of guy he was. He encouraged people and saw things in their art that they weren't able to see in themselves. I remember the last show I did with them in Stereo in Glasgow, and one of my mates was backstage and managed to get an interview with Simeon for The Wire magazine I believe. They talked for an hour while I got high and drank beer. Simeon seemed really tired. When it came time to leave we walked him up to their transport and said our goodbyes. As they drove off my friend turned to me and said "I bet thats the last time we see him" and he was right. SA were a huge inspiration for me growing up. I remember discovering them in a record store (remember them?!) when i was a teen and the internet was in its infancy. It absolutely melted my melon when i found out it was from the 60s. Ill never forget excitedly throwing the record on for my friends while we sat in the dark smoking hashish. SA moved everyone i showed it to, some people were like "wtf is this?!" and others just melted into the sound. I think in another 50 years we will see just how inspirational Simeon and co were truly. Simeon and SA are the reason I continue to make time for music well into my 30s. The reason I still enjoy the deep diving into experimentation. Not to mention, putting anything from that SA record on a DJ set or my wee radio show always pricks someone who hasn't heard it before's ears up. Long live Simeon, and long live Silver Apples!
Im an old school UK based indie head and these guys actually were kinda big amongst the more "muso" indie types back in the 90s. You'd often hear a DJ spin some Silver Apples tunes in amongst the other psyche stuff in the back room at the end of an indie night.
That sounds so cool, like so authentic, sometimes I wanna be in those eras, when all's well. Indie now is like all that bedroom pop shit, fucking homogenous and boring asf.
@@marcusantonius6683 Indie pop back then was generic shit too. Only the shit that's lowest common denominator gets noticed because that's what's likely to sell.
@Sarah Wilson Pan-Am is still a registered trademark. So there may still be legal repercussions for using the logo on the cover. Safe idea would be to airbrush Pan-Am out of the pic.
The band that Simeon and Danny Taylor left was called The Random Concept, which had been based in the northwest corner of Connecticut, where I was living in the late nineties. Their guitarist was Jake Bell, who was part of a circle of friends with my girlfriend and me at the time. In 1996 one of those friends was in New York and saw a delivery truck that said 'The Random Concept' on the side. She ran up to the driver in the truck and asked, "Are you Simeon?" and he said yes. She told him how huge the Silver Apples had become and then he started his own label, Whirlybird, to release new and old Silver Apples recordings, and music related to the band. He and Jake then met up again after many years, and in 1998 Jake released an album of his own music on the label. I was the coproducer of that album and cowrote and performed on that record, and the whole experience was absolutely surreal. Jake recruited another former bandmate to join us on the record on drums. It was Gary Higgins, who had recorded and released his cult classic, solo album, 'Red Hash' in 1973. What were the chances? It really was a magical time. Thank you Simeon. For all the brilliant music, and art, and connections, and memories.
I just happened to find both originals of these Silver Apples albums on vinyl in a thrift store record bin yesterday. Had no idea what they were but knew they were more than the typical stuff found in thrift shops. So happy I picked them up and came here to learn more. Best $4 ever spent. This music is incredible. Thanks for this history lesson on the Silver Apples.
Back in the '90s when I actually owned a vinyl record player and CD/tape deck boombox I loved haunting the fleamarkets of my area in Queens, NY finding these jewels. I also had to keep an eye out for any 1970s European disco related (my mother's requests).
Nice to see that young generation rediscover Silver Apples... There was also an album of Morton Subotnick “Silver Apples of the Moon” from July 1967 that utilised a very early Buchla 100 synthesiser, which actually Morton Subotnick helped Don Buchla to build. Lot’s of Silver Apples in the 1960’s ;)
The algorithm's been kicking out a lot of new channels I'd never seen lately, and this is a particularly good one. Wonder if it's being stirred up by increased traffic volume with half the world under lockdown and watching more?
Jim actually "predicted" music would be more electronic in the future rather than actual traditional voices and instruments. I'm not really a huge fan of it myself I like a classic rock sound still. Just as I would prefer seeing a live gig rather than just dance at a disco with some dj.
I first heard Silver Apples playing over the sound system in a now defunct rock bar and was blown away when the owner told me the album was from the late 60s. Absolutely mental how ahead of their time they were
Here after Civil War used Lovefingers in the opening. Amazing how both Silver Apples and Suicide were featured in that movie. I wonder if you're video maybe influenced Alex Garland's choice of both of these bands being in the movie.
That would be an incredible ego boost 😅😅. But I reckon the two bands are just commonly linked because Silver Apples was extremely influential to Suicide, and the only “biography” of Silver Apples was a chapter in the Suicide memoir. A man can dream tho…
A lovely story. You should mention they called themselves Silver Apples after Morton Subotnik’s Silver Apples of The Moon, a classic of early electronic music and in turn lifted from a WB Yeats’ poem The Wandering of Aengus, “...the silver apples of the moon, the golden apples of the sun...”
I saw A24’s movie Civil War today and GASPED as I heard Lovefingers by Silver Apples playing in a scene, really fitting and kinda unnerving. Crazy small world!
Look up Raymond Scott. He was largely considered a jazz musician, and his piece, Powerhouse, is famously sampled by Carl Stalling in the Looney Tunes cartoons. However, his experimental work using early, archaic electronic instruments, is certainly way, way ahead of its time.
Raymond Scott worked with Bob Moog on a synthesizer he called the Clavivox, but Scott never finished it. I believe that synth still exists and is being restored.
I supported SA last time he was in town a few years ago. He is super old now but is still out there playing shows with his cool AF semi modular setup. Im just a lowly electronic weirdo myself, but simeon was the nicest, most supportive guy of his calibre that ive met in music, next to the dude from Faust, who I also opened for, who gave me a t shirt and smoked some of my weed. It's gonna be a sad day when Simeon leaves us, but I think he's got a lot more left in him yet.
Got to meet the Simean in 1998 when he played in Portland. We took a picture and he gave me a copy of his new album, since I was too young to get in to the club. I was 18.
This is a cult band that lots of music heads have known about for a while (same with Neu, Cluster, Can, Jean Jacques Perry, pre-Autobahn Kraftwerk). Just seemed to stay within certain circles. This is what I love about RUclips, anybody can stumble upon great shit a lot easier.
I highly recommend the Silver Apples music as well as United States of America and Suicide. But I really don't understand how they failed to foresee that Pan Am would object to the picture on the back combined with their logo on the front.
I'm realizing what a different time it was in 1968 vs 1978. The music industry hated controversy. Getting busted with weed was a death sentence. Zappa had his career put on pause because of an obscenity charge. Rick James was blacklisted because of his draft dodger status. But then, a decade later, you get the Sex Pistols and suddenly all press is good press.
@@Bandsplaining It was a different time, sure, but I don't think that kind of thing would fly even now. (pun intended) Can you imagine if the front cover was a Starbucks shop and the back cover was the remains of the same shop blown up by a bomb? They'd have the same reaction and be rightfully pissed. It was a terrible attempt at being edgy and resulted in only cringe.
PLEASE do a video about White Noise! They were doing electronic music around the same time if not earlier and they have a super interesting story. Their album took a couple of years to produce because they put every tiny tape sample together manually. It's CRAZY. It's very of its time but also still ahead of the times. They're one of my favorites, I would love to see you talk about them. Their album is called "An Electric Storm"
Is this the same band that my friend showed me 20 years ago? I thought they were called 'Apple' and could never find any evidence of them existing due to the computer company of the same name. He said they were one of the first to use electronic stuff.... back in the day. At any rate, good vid!
RIP Simeon. I watched this video only to discover he passed away 2 weeks ago. A little less than 5 months after this video was posted. This video makes me so sad. Not only are they both gone now, but over 80% of their recordings have also been lost. The bulk of it burned up in 2008.
@@Ryan-wx8of cause they are old... I promise you that when some of the kids that use social media become the powerful they will know how to silence people.
Saw them (well Simeon) around 1996 in a loft in Montreal. I got to tell him they were years ahead of their time and actually anticipated house and techno. Simeon signed my record and told me if I saw Dan Taylor to tell him he was looking for him!
That "WW2 oscillator" is called a voltage controlled oscillator. VCO's are used to output oscillating electric fields with a frequency dependent on an input DC voltage. They're at the heart of many fundamental electronics designs that make modern telecommunications tech possible.
This is slightly off topic, but re: the band Suicide, Bruce Springsteen, who is a contemporary of theirs and most likely saw Suicide perform - has a song or two on his Nebraska album which were heavily influenced by their sound.
@@ereristark425 i still have no idea... they refused to tell me why... No warnings ... Just gone one day..... Any songs I used of others for dance or covered on acoustic had the proper credits placed... So it wasnt copyright... Truly... I'm a watcher and commenter of things revealing the gov to be quite evil... Thats what I can only assume they didnt like...
Actually in this case it could be argued that capitalism killed art. It could also be argued that by agreeing to put the PanAm logo on their album...they sold out. No disrespect towards Silver Apples but this wasn’t a clear case of censorship for censorship’s sake.
They went into the studio to record an album and the engineer was so afraid of one of their musical instruments? Are you saying actual fear kept this man out of the studio?
Electronic music. The greatest and most diverse music there is imho. Literally no boundries and the only genre that keeps inventing itself over and over again! 🙂🙏🏼
@@user-rc4re5fo2f Thats true for some styles perhaps.. But the fresh deeper stuff isnt just recycling my man. Boundaries are limitless! And the fact that electronic music keeps better and more advanched, is due computer technique and software whats getting better and way more dynamic etc etc..
@@user-rc4re5fo2f lol, It's the most diverse by definition, hence it takes such a long time to explore all the possibilities. 'Human' means nothing, since everything's a human creation, including the electronic devices themselves. Hypnotism and mechanicality are just another of possible forms of expression. And since the dawn of civilization music was, in 99,99% of the cases, about recycling and replaying existing themes.
According to Wikipedia, the band the Silver Apples AND the album by Morton Subotnick called "The Silver Apples of the Moon" BOTH took their names from "The Song of Wandering Aengus," an 1897 poem by Irish poet W. B. Yeats. Both the Silver Apples and Subotnick were active in NYC at about the same time. Coincidence or what?
Great video. I'm so glad you mentioned United States of America. Such an underrated band. Check out Fifty Foot Hose as well!! Their Cauldron album is fantastic, and recorded in 67' with lots of synths and weird sounds.
Giorgio Moroder took this and mastered it into what we know as electronic music, electronic artists today are still copying bits from his music and making it into their own. Impressive to hear the roots of where it all began!
when I was a teen I listened to the Contact album and really dug it.....This documentary and it's photo of the album cover allowed me to rediscover this wild sound....now I know what to look for. Thanks for the "blast from the past" that let me spot this album again.
Their early sounds remind me very much of The Residents, a avant garde art-music project around Hardy Fox as its driving force, collaborating with lots of other artists.. Founding The Residents in the late 60s, he produced over 60 albums. After Fox died in 2015, the project was continued by Eric Drew Feldman and is still active to this day. The iconic sign of The Residents was always a huge eye ball.
Exactly. I literally said "oh my god...🤦♀️" when they showed the back cover. I guess it was a different time back then and they thought it was no big deal lmao.
There's a lot of harsh album covers out there. What made this one controversial was simply the logo being exposed and Pan Am not realizing their intentions of using the back photo. They could of used a pic with no logo. Yeah too bad they didn't talk about the consequences before following through with their choice.
Man you people genuinely disturb me. You have no understanding of what youre actually talking about. Censorship is a disease. You truely see this art as some distasteful edgy trash, then fine, i thinks thats a ridiculous take, but you have your opinions. But acting like it shouldn't be allowed is outrageous.
@@CheshireCad if you honestly think this art was made with the same juvenile, edgy, motivation of just getting a reaction or offending people, as "its just a prank bro", i think you're being naive and ridiculous. First of all i dont think the image is offensive at all, but even if you find it offensive that does not mean thats the only emotional response it can provoke, and just because it holds not emotional or artistic value to you doesnt mean it cant for others. If you dont enjoy it thats fine, but you have no right to invalidate others appreciation for it
Ahead of their time. But then the world caught up with them in the 1970s and beyond. Now anyone can make a record of whoosh-y space sounds over a MIDI ostinato part for under $1000.
The world is still trying to catch up with them. Your last sentence is as meaningless as saying something along the lines of “any three year old could have done that” when looking at a Jackson Pollock.
Fortunately someone here in Gothenburg had the good sense to book the remaining Silver Apple for a concert not too long ago and publicize it just enough. It was a real treat, as you'd expect. Never thought I'd get to hear it live.
Unreal! You found the Silver Apples. They opened for jethro Tull's first US performance at they Boston Tea Party. A Dayglo dungeon in Boston. I was 17 and my mind was blown forever! Great stuff.
Well, I think the ‘Futurist movement’ of the 20s, Stockhausen, the ‘Musique Concrete’ movement in the 40s , and Delia Derbyshire in the early 60s we’re experimenting with electronic music before these chaps. Perhaps not so ‘pop’, but Delia Derbyshire’s Doctor Who theme in 1963 was definitely groundbreaking and very popular, but yes, these guys are definitely pioneers that deserve more notoriety for sure, they even beat Kraftwerk by at least a year :) PS: clearly I rattled this off before you went further into depth. Trigger happy me.
Some other interesting early electronic recordings: CSIRAC (1950-51) -- /watch?v=x7MmrfRr0Hg Raymond Scott - The Rhythm Modulator (1954) -- /watch?v=o6VsZiNjjZE Tom Dissevelt & Kid Baltan (Dick Raaymakers) - Song of the Second Moon (1957) -- /watch?v=bVl2_MSwmSA
Kraut Rock Can and still is amazing to this day. Kraftwerk, Radiohead all techno / house hip hop but these guys were 50 years ahead of their time. I used to say the same about CAN when I found them in the 80's. Arcade Fire and other pop/ rock bands sounds like them. What a find. digging it. Literally found these guys 15 minutes ago. They influenced generations of music. As a DJ I'm embarassed I never had heard of them and Im 50 years old.
I have the posthumous Reprise Hendrix LP "Rainbow Bridge," in which it appeared, and sadly the suits never gave the boys credit. Until watching this, I always assumed it was Jimi working with Eddie Kramer varispeeding stuff. The whole piece is absolutely gorgeous
Soon as I saw the title of this video and watched the first few minutes I immediately thought to myself "I bet Jimi loved these guys and could make amazing music with them" and boom the Hendrix part came on. I have heard that rendition of Star Spangled Banner 100s of times (Im a huge Hendrix worshipper) and always wondered how tf did Jimi get that bass? The whole track is mesmerizing and I love that they collaborated. Silver Apples is pretty sweet and this is the first time I've heard of them.
I LOVE the fact that he went on, keeping with his original antique hardware. The exquisite oscillators, and old testing equipment. Very ‘bleeding edge avant grade’. I wonder if there’s any relation between these guys and Morton Subotnik? THANKS FOR SHARING!
It's Electro Glitch and that's because it was fooling around with the electronics of the day to create new sounds. Many sounds we take for granted these days were actually invented back then, only nowadays you just flick a switch and turn a knob.
Wow...that takes me back...in the early 70s, I got a calculator as a birthday present...it had a flourescent green numeric display. I discovered that depending on the number displayed, it would cause an AM radio to emit a tone. And during particular complicated calculations (like hitting the square root button), it would create a rhythmic beat that would not be out of place in more modern music. I played around with this as a kid and even tried my hand at making some songs...but I'm more of a techie than an artist...
I love how you described the artwork as "Banksy style" when It has been speculated that one half of the trip-hop duo Massive Attack (3D) is Banksy. It would make perfect sense if he got musical and visual inspiration from Silver Apples to make experimental music and artwork.
That goddamn back cover of the album, it sure changed the history of modern music and buried this band and halted the evolution of electronic music, goddamn.
1960s: Silver Apples debuts
2020: We are ready for you
Someone get them a record deal with a boating company this time
60 years ahead of their time!!!
Yeah they're music kills the virus. Not saying it really does
1990's: Us pre-millenials, musicians, artists and music buffs all got the memo... but we pretty much hid it from you all that time.
sort of like the way that h p lovecraft's novels were never appreciated until after he died
“I guess you guys aren’t ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it.”
I get that reference.
Hey that reference got me.
-Marty McFly 💨
😅😅😅😅
D-Day Fitness ??? I’m fairly certain Calvin Klein said that
Unfortunately Simeon passed away a couple of days ago. Rest in Peace.
I'm so glad Simeon played again before passing on. I loved Suicide (R.I.P. Vega) early, but was late to grab their Silver Apples inspiration. May they all rock in peace. Blessed Be.
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Rest In Power Simeon (with all the great artists from New York, Sylvain Sylvain, and Walter Lure died around the same time too) hopethere'sinstrumentsupthere...
@Daniel did u not just watch the fucking video 😐
Aw man, rip.
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Izzy Vargas thanks man
@@izzyvargas1242 You are the hero we didn't know we needed.. thank you internet man.
when concerts started at 3 pm...
seriously, why are there no day concerts anymore. i dont always feel like going out at 10.
Everyone is still at work at 3 my dude
@@LeRouxshnikov not on weekends
There is! There are many day parties/one day festivals where I’m from and I’ve been to some overseas too
Well, no-one is going on concerts now xD
@@LeRouxshnikov this is New York we got shifts at every part of the day someone's home at 3 on any given day
The irony that Silver Apples promoted love through making music with WW2 equipment is awesome.
Why do you think the hippies drove around in VW Combis?
'what are the civilian applications?'
@@anonUK it was also cheaper. "Surplus" used to go for pennies on the dollar. Many bikers also took advantage of this with their uniforms and spare parts
+ the album named "contact" caused total loss of contact
Make love not war. ✌🏼
As a young boy, I fell in love with the music of the Silver Apples. I have an original (vinyl) copy of their first album. I was 15 when it dropped in '68. It's one of my prized musical possessions.
That's awesome!
@@InfiniteGrenades Back in the 60s there was a radio station in Philadelphia called WIBG FM. No DJs... just programmed music. They played mostly psychedelic rock featuring bands such as Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Iron Butterfly, Blue Cheer, etc. Silver Apples was in pretty heavy rotation.
@@karlsangree how would you know the names of the bands on that station was playing?
Meester Feesher Oh man...do U even realize,the substance of the question U were asking?If U do ,then U will realize why,U failed 2 receive a reply. I mean really,what dimension are U from?Did the Stargate U materialized from suffer an incomplete transmission,leaving some essential particles scattered about,in the wormhole?🤔
@@MattFisherComedy You know, I really don't remember. Here is a little snippet from Philly Radio Archives: _At this point, half of the day's programming was provided by a Gates automation system. At first it was a mix of pop standards, country and classical, but by the spring of 1968, some progressive rock was being played, although it was without announcers._
i’m deaf which means i can feel sounds reverb in my bones and this is the funkiest thing i’ve ever heard
Pretty cool! You might like Buckethead. A lot of his music is usually rather aggressive and chaotic. I like it, especially with the bass way up.
OH DAMNNNN can you look up "breakage-rain" and tell me how you feel? it's the song with the lowest bass I've found 🙏
Look up animals as leaders
Wait what
Neat
Let’s not forget Deliah Derbyshire. A definite pioneer of electronic music. She is responsible for Doctor Who’s theme song of 1963.
Surprised no ones mentioned her here or in the video. She was insanely good, she used god damn mathematics in her pieces, and stuff of hers surfaced that stills sounds relevant and modern.
@@therestorationofdrwho1865 exactly.
What about the former Walter Carlos who now goes by Wendy Carlos that was a hell of an artist
The 'white noise' album is an exceptional recording.
else marie pade and pauline oliveros were two electronic/concrete music composers around the same time.
just discovered them recently.
I do believe if they had played another public concert and gotten arrested for playing they would be one of the most talked about bands of the century.
There would have been a public outcry over the incident, bolstering their public image as the band that got censored by 'the man.' It would have been glorious.
The same thing would also happen if they just made better music.
There was so much good music in the late 60s/early 70s, but this ain't it. This is just some cringey avant-garde shit.
Brandon Johnson translation: you don’t like their music
For real I guarantee artists would've made music about them getting arrested, boasting them to legendary status
They probably wouldn't have had the time to set up!
LSD is a time machine and nobody knows.
No... Humans are already capable of intuitive time travel. Some people just need to use LSD to tap into it.
Tater Tot 2020 ÙwÚ what do you mean?
@@MellowJelly yeah, ya'll need to explain this shit 😆 cuz no I'm interested in what you're saying
Top Secret you’d need to do acid to get it, otherwise it sounds crazy... because it’s crazy
@@discobiscuit56 lol acid.... Dmt is the real traveling choice. You leave your physical body and blast off into another dimension so I've heard.. 😉
Simeon Coxe has passed away at 82. Obviously he will be remembered as the pioneer in electronic music that he was.
Darn I’m sorry to hear this.
Rest easy 😔♥️
The irony that Silver Apples promoted love through making music with WW2 equipment is awesome.
Kraftwerk were the original pioneers that actually rode it out to this very day!!!....minus Florian. ....r.i.p Flor!!
He sampled him instead of finding someone new because his friend lives on through that beat. That's his legacy, his conciousness beating those drums for eternity.
Bro don't make me fucking cryyyyyyyy
Ikrr seeing him play with that oscillator made me 🥺
Yes so true. Smart of him!
was looking for a comment mentioning this. i teared up a bit during that part. so freaking wholesome
Legend🔥
how cute that he turned his late band member into a machine
🤖 The future is now!
Something every band member ever has wanted to do to every other band member ever.
@@kevinbradshaw1420 why is there so much truth in your comment lol
The most Boomer thing.
Nithing new they've had machines as drummers for years
“He started drumming with patterns instead of beats.”
Thats when you know they know what theyre talking about.
Beats are patterns
The modern launchpad artist pioneer
Gabriel Moore - We it's clear that you don't know what you're talking about. As the man below said "Beats are patterns". You can't have beats without patterns. That's the way they work.
@@warmswarm I believe they mean in loops. The closest thing I can relate this to is hip hop and their use of "break beats" and looping those. The drummer, to my ear at least, is doing something similar.
@@warmswarm in any case, what do you thing the narrator technically meant? I was trying to figure it out. Maybe he referred to the absence of measures? Shed some light bro!
that thumbnail is giving off cursed energy
Izzy Benz I thought it was some civil rights march in alabama.
yeah i even heard earthbound music, I swear
Lol yeah thats why i clicked
Earthbound! Haha awesome game. It’s the Blue cult!
Lmao yeah
Imagine derailing entire careers because you think the back of an album might subconsciously affect listeners' opinions of your brand.
THE LEFT does it everyday 4 politics ...
Ima gunna ruin this man's whole career 🤣
50+ years ago and your still crying about it
@@all2blame163 dork
@@all2blame163 That's not how it works tho...
2:49 this shot really struck me. The innocent humanity of children leaning into this mass of mechanical contaptions is a cool setup to start with, but more than that...... the pic seems to catch this pure, innocent curiosity and interest that all kids have before the world teaches them what they can and can't be curious about.
They aren't afraid of this noisy Franken-machine, just fascinated.
I love it.
All kids don't have that. Apparently, only a small portion of people are "creatives". But it does get driven out of those that are.
Bandsplaining sounds like Ray Romano. Not hatin’, just sayin’ he probably does a good Ray Romano impression.
Look at his profile pic haha. It could be him, who knows
Yes, that is Ray Romano from his interview on Vinyl
Kraut rock. also in the field
DEBORAAAAAHH
I thought Harold Ramis 🤷🏾♂️
“It took maybe ten minutes then it was a party” that’s because it took 10 minutes for the drugs to hit.
Kat Howard .... it takes about 10 mins for brainwaves to re-sync when there is a new input
@@krankinkogs what
@@krankinkogs what
@@krankinkogs what are you on
Guess they hadn't invented pre-gaming yet
I had the pleasure of opening for SA twice in the last 10 years. Simeon was a lovely, humble bloke and he even told me he loved my stuff which was so much of a compliment for me that i didn't believe it lol. He used to have all these amazing modular synths onstage and I only ever used my shitty little drum machine and an old Yamaha PSR 3 amongst other things. I couldn't believe a guy like Simeon would compliment a young noob like me, but that was just the kind of guy he was. He encouraged people and saw things in their art that they weren't able to see in themselves.
I remember the last show I did with them in Stereo in Glasgow, and one of my mates was backstage and managed to get an interview with Simeon for The Wire magazine I believe. They talked for an hour while I got high and drank beer. Simeon seemed really tired. When it came time to leave we walked him up to their transport and said our goodbyes. As they drove off my friend turned to me and said "I bet thats the last time we see him" and he was right.
SA were a huge inspiration for me growing up. I remember discovering them in a record store (remember them?!) when i was a teen and the internet was in its infancy. It absolutely melted my melon when i found out it was from the 60s. Ill never forget excitedly throwing the record on for my friends while we sat in the dark smoking hashish. SA moved everyone i showed it to, some people were like "wtf is this?!" and others just melted into the sound. I think in another 50 years we will see just how inspirational Simeon and co were truly.
Simeon and SA are the reason I continue to make time for music well into my 30s. The reason I still enjoy the deep diving into experimentation. Not to mention, putting anything from that SA record on a DJ set or my wee radio show always pricks someone who hasn't heard it before's ears up. Long live Simeon, and long live Silver Apples!
I spent a nice afternoon in Stereo a few summers ago. Highly recommended if you ever pass through Glasgow!
What a great story, thank you for sharing that
♥️
Do you hae anywhere to listen to any of your music? I'm intrigued
Thanks for sharing ❤
Im an old school UK based indie head and these guys actually were kinda big amongst the more "muso" indie types back in the 90s. You'd often hear a DJ spin some Silver Apples tunes in amongst the other psyche stuff in the back room at the end of an indie night.
And NZ punks in the early 80’s.
Appreciate the info.
That sounds so cool, like so authentic, sometimes I wanna be in those eras, when all's well. Indie now is like all that bedroom pop shit, fucking homogenous and boring asf.
@@marcusantonius6683 Indie pop back then was generic shit too. Only the shit that's lowest common denominator gets noticed because that's what's likely to sell.
@@marcusantonius6683 ye, or boring folk rock like cavetown. I miss the Olivia tremor control and thinking fellers days v_v
the band came to outlast the airline - nice touch
Lemón deRangello ... Right! I was thinking the same thing… They can be free to do what they wanna do now because there is no more Pan Am🤷🏽♀️
@@TracyAllenVideos ... and the album can now be reissued.
@Sarah Wilson Pan-Am is still a registered trademark. So there may still be legal repercussions for using the logo on the cover. Safe idea would be to airbrush Pan-Am out of the pic.
@@SamWesting How about making it a sticker saying, "Chemtrails disabled."
@@SarahRWilson It was a several years ago because I have it on CD with the album cover.
The band that Simeon and Danny Taylor left was called The Random Concept, which had been based in the northwest corner of Connecticut, where I was living in the late nineties. Their guitarist was Jake Bell, who was part of a circle of friends with my girlfriend and me at the time. In 1996 one of those friends was in New York and saw a delivery truck that said 'The Random Concept' on the side. She ran up to the driver in the truck and asked, "Are you Simeon?" and he said yes. She told him how huge the Silver Apples had become and then he started his own label, Whirlybird, to release new and old Silver Apples recordings, and music related to the band. He and Jake then met up again after many years, and in 1998 Jake released an album of his own music on the label. I was the coproducer of that album and cowrote and performed on that record, and the whole experience was absolutely surreal. Jake recruited another former bandmate to join us on the record on drums. It was Gary Higgins, who had recorded and released his cult classic, solo album, 'Red Hash' in 1973. What were the chances? It really was a magical time. Thank you Simeon. For all the brilliant music, and art, and connections, and memories.
I saw the Silver apples in Philly at the Khyber in the 90s late 90s Simeon signed my pack of rolling papers for me. ❤
can - german band around time of kraftwerk, also ahead of their time. Anything faster than a certain bpm was avant garde.
yessssss
Can’s Tago Mago is, in my opinion, the greatest album of all time.
@@peterlawson777 bring me coffee or tea
and neu!
Faust too!
CAN - the band CAN they are from the 60s, a German experimental rock band with a Japanese front man. They are awesome and ahead of their time
Rach Rach love CAN
And other German kraut-rock bands like Neu!, Faust and well...Kraftwerk
I'm a huge fan of CAN and so is my 8 year old son. They got him startet on the drums.
Discovered can in an episode of the Preacher, they are so underrated
damo suzuki was only the vocalist for 3 albums (the best 3 tho lol)
I just happened to find both originals of these Silver Apples albums on vinyl in a thrift store record bin yesterday. Had no idea what they were but knew they were more than the typical stuff found in thrift shops. So happy I picked them up and came here to learn more. Best $4 ever spent. This music is incredible. Thanks for this history lesson on the Silver Apples.
I know I’m a year late but that’s so cool and lucky!
Back in the '90s when I actually owned a vinyl record player and CD/tape deck boombox I loved haunting the fleamarkets of my area in Queens, NY finding these jewels. I also had to keep an eye out for any 1970s European disco related (my mother's requests).
Nice to see that young generation rediscover Silver Apples... There was also an album of Morton Subotnick “Silver Apples of the Moon” from July 1967 that utilised a very early Buchla 100 synthesiser, which actually Morton Subotnick helped Don Buchla to build. Lot’s of Silver Apples in the 1960’s ;)
I think the band actually took their name from that record.
lovely
I wonder if this is where 'Simian Mobile Disco' got its name.
@@VuotoPneumaNN Perhaps but ultimately it comes from this Yeats poem.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Song_of_Wandering_Aengus
Morton Subotnik is great. Also Oskar Sala if you haven’t checked him out - epic modular stuff in a similar vein.
Algorithm strikes again. Amazing video man, keep it up.
the algorithm seemed to work better a couple months ago. now im only getting, maybe one good recommended video a day :(
@@holdmybeer thats normal for most people. also it usually is a good video from 3+ years ago, not within the same month.
I even got special playlist for that.
that's a really fuckin cool profile pic
The algorithm's been kicking out a lot of new channels I'd never seen lately, and this is a particularly good one. Wonder if it's being stirred up by increased traffic volume with half the world under lockdown and watching more?
Pam Am killed his band, but he outlived Pan Am.
Rest in Peace, Simeon Coxe. Lovers of electronic music salute you. 🙏
I totally see their influence in Jefferson Airplane, The Doors, Iron Butterfly and, yes, Portishead! I absolutely love Portishead.
@marcus brown Right!? Well maybe not Portishead
The Doors were before these guys.
@@Sareybeary um, I know. The Doors was my favorite band 40 years ago.
@@flowerhour9539 Portishead, totally. ruclips.net/video/MHmlGaKvtok/видео.html
Jim actually "predicted" music would be more electronic in the future rather than actual traditional voices and instruments. I'm not really a huge fan of it myself I like a classic rock sound still. Just as I would prefer seeing a live gig rather than just dance at a disco with some dj.
Silver Apples: Still the sound of the future half a century later.
Came here just to say RIP Simeon Coxe (1938-2020), had the chance to briefly chat with him once. A true pioneer and overall great human!
I first heard Silver Apples playing over the sound system in a now defunct rock bar and was blown away when the owner told me the album was from the late 60s. Absolutely mental how ahead of their time they were
And that's the BEST version of Jimi's star spangled banner, wow , I had no idea that silver apples were in on that.
Magic.
I actually almost teared up once that clip came on
He is definitely a real one. Wouldn't replace his band mate and instead kept him alive in spirit. What a friend 💯
Fact: You didn't search for this, but you watched every second.
Tantalus yup.
How did you know that!?!
Stopped 20 seconds early!
Perhaps not but I look for other videos like it.
I expected electro glitch, didn't find any electro glitch, left the video. Very disappointed.
They should have picked up Syd Barrett
Syd Barrett was way to far gone to continue making and performing music. By 1968 he had pretty much lost his mind.
soft machine could pick him up too
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath people dont realize the character in the wall was supposed to be syd.
wish you where here....
@@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath no
Read “a very irregular head” by rob Chapman if you want to understand a fraction of syd’s mind. Don’t listen to these keyboard biographers
Here after Civil War used Lovefingers in the opening. Amazing how both Silver Apples and Suicide were featured in that movie. I wonder if you're video maybe influenced Alex Garland's choice of both of these bands being in the movie.
That would be an incredible ego boost 😅😅. But I reckon the two bands are just commonly linked because Silver Apples was extremely influential to Suicide, and the only “biography” of Silver Apples was a chapter in the Suicide memoir. A man can dream tho…
The irony is that Pan Am ultimately folded after two of their planes crashed.
Maybe it was a premonition?
Into each other?
@@MadManVS no, one was Lockerbie in 1988 the other was a few years after that.
They were a big company too. Wow. Yeah they definitely had a premonition. Like many young free thinkers.
darganx Lockerbie was a bomb by Ghadaffi related terrorist.
A lovely story. You should mention they called themselves Silver Apples after Morton Subotnik’s Silver Apples of The Moon, a classic of early electronic music and in turn lifted from a WB Yeats’ poem The Wandering of Aengus, “...the silver apples of the moon, the golden apples of the sun...”
Yes! Was waiting for this
I saw A24’s movie Civil War today and GASPED as I heard Lovefingers by Silver Apples playing in a scene, really fitting and kinda unnerving. Crazy small world!
Look up Raymond Scott. He was largely considered a jazz musician, and his piece, Powerhouse, is famously sampled by Carl Stalling in the Looney Tunes cartoons. However, his experimental work using early, archaic electronic instruments, is certainly way, way ahead of its time.
DJCHAV0 - Rush also used part of Powerhouse in "La Villa Strangiato". Fantastic song!
I first learned about Raymond Scott thru Jay Dilla's sampling of his work. He did amazing shit with his self made instruments!
Raymond Scott worked with Bob Moog on a synthesizer he called the Clavivox, but Scott never finished it. I believe that synth still exists and is being restored.
I've also heard "The Toy Trumpet" in a few cartoons.
“Rather than perform with a new drummer, Simeon decided to sample all of his drum parts.”
I’m not crying,
*Youre crying*
Yeah and then the video just ends 😢
@Denilson Thomas
I was memeing. Sincerely, if I had tears, they were happy ones.
I'm wondering did DJ Premier or some ol famous hip hop producer find their album way way back and used it
The 60's was so far ahead we are still trying to catch up.🎯
Right, never before has an era been so far behind and so far ahead at the same time.
@@awesomeferret damn. Never seen it like that. Till now & till now
I was at one of their shows when my mom was pregnant with me. It was ok. 😂
Cuuuuuute
No side affects?
Dang it Joe!😂😂😂😂
Now we know how you acquired your name, Bim
David Bowie showed up and then you danced for the first time.
I supported SA last time he was in town a few years ago. He is super old now but is still out there playing shows with his cool AF semi modular setup. Im just a lowly electronic weirdo myself, but simeon was the nicest, most supportive guy of his calibre that ive met in music, next to the dude from Faust, who I also opened for, who gave me a t shirt and smoked some of my weed. It's gonna be a sad day when Simeon leaves us, but I think he's got a lot more left in him yet.
Simeon Coxe just passed away a few days ago. It was strange to see this pop up in my feed today.
Bro these guys basically had a vip connection with every 60s musician that I love 😂
Got to meet the Simean in 1998 when he played in Portland. We took a picture and he gave me a copy of his new album, since I was too young to get in to the club. I was 18.
damn this Simeon refuses to jam with anyone else and still jams with his old band mate. Respect that is love
I swear now everyone’s gonna pretend they’ve listened to them before this video..
MAMASB0Y ☠️☠️
I guess you were the only one?
my best friend was shoving this down my throat a year ago so this is a come-up for me
This is a cult band that lots of music heads have known about for a while (same with Neu, Cluster, Can, Jean Jacques Perry, pre-Autobahn Kraftwerk). Just seemed to stay within certain circles. This is what I love about RUclips, anybody can stumble upon great shit a lot easier.
Man I heard of them in the 70's
I highly recommend the Silver Apples music as well as United States of America and Suicide. But I really don't understand how they failed to foresee that Pan Am would object to the picture on the back combined with their logo on the front.
Clifford Hodge USA is a masterpiece of an album!
I'm realizing what a different time it was in 1968 vs 1978. The music industry hated controversy. Getting busted with weed was a death sentence. Zappa had his career put on pause because of an obscenity charge. Rick James was blacklisted because of his draft dodger status. But then, a decade later, you get the Sex Pistols and suddenly all press is good press.
@@Bandsplaining It was a different time, sure, but I don't think that kind of thing would fly even now. (pun intended) Can you imagine if the front cover was a Starbucks shop and the back cover was the remains of the same shop blown up by a bomb? They'd have the same reaction and be rightfully pissed. It was a terrible attempt at being edgy and resulted in only cringe.
Suicide is amazing. Discovered them and Silver Apples around the same time and it honestly changed my life and the way I approach making my own music.
@@HotStrange springsteen LOVED Suicide. I love certain versions of a few of their songs, in particular. They stand the test of time, somehow.
PLEASE do a video about White Noise! They were doing electronic music around the same time if not earlier and they have a super interesting story. Their album took a couple of years to produce because they put every tiny tape sample together manually. It's CRAZY. It's very of its time but also still ahead of the times. They're one of my favorites, I would love to see you talk about them. Their album is called "An Electric Storm"
Is this the same band that my friend showed me 20 years ago? I thought they were called 'Apple' and could never find any evidence of them existing due to the computer company of the same name. He said they were one of the first to use electronic stuff.... back in the day. At any rate, good vid!
How is anyone expected to answer that first question? It's unfair, we just dont know.
Lou Clarkson um its called a rhetorical question, jesus lighten up
Yeah I had a friend show me this about 20 years ago too. They must have been on the same web forums or reading the same Indy magazines
@@Your_Daily_Scrollwooosh i dont think I'm the one who needs to lighten up.
@Evi1M4chine ok,
I'll edit mine too, so you dont look that stupid.
Dude nobody's talking about how you sound like the guy from Jack in the box
Maybe he is Jack? We've never seen who's under that giant head.
Holy Shit! Yur right
Bruh
And Ray Romono
You mean Jack?
RIP Simeon. I watched this video only to discover he passed away 2 weeks ago. A little less than 5 months after this video was posted.
This video makes me so sad. Not only are they both gone now, but over 80% of their recordings have also been lost. The bulk of it burned up in 2008.
omg this guy couldn’t catch a break
When you are censored today, you are propelled to new heights..but back then you were actually silenced.
Life without social media...
Now you know why the powerful hate the internet.
@@Ryan-wx8of cause they are old...
I promise you that when some of the kids that use social media become the powerful they will know how to silence people.
except you notice after they were threatened there was no interest in bringing them back - until 2009 when that granpa did a solo tour of their music.
@@truthnfreedomseeker you mean social media, the home if cancel culture?
One of a kind group. I envy anyone who can say they've seen them live
Saw them live but 2011
Saw them (well Simeon) around 1996 in a loft in Montreal. I got to tell him they were years ahead of their time and actually anticipated house and techno. Simeon signed my record and told me if I saw Dan Taylor to tell him he was looking for him!
That "WW2 oscillator" is called a voltage controlled oscillator. VCO's are used to output oscillating electric fields with a frequency dependent on an input DC voltage. They're at the heart of many fundamental electronics designs that make modern telecommunications tech possible.
This is slightly off topic, but re: the band Suicide, Bruce Springsteen, who is a contemporary of theirs and most likely saw Suicide perform - has a song or two on his Nebraska album which were heavily influenced by their sound.
Aubrey Adams The Boss rules and knows good music when he hears it 🙌🏻
Nebraska is his only good album
GHOST RIDER MOTORCYCLE HERO
Suicide were not contemporaries of Silver Apples... They were influenced, separated by a full decade.
Springsteen covered a Suicide song, Dream Baby Dream. He definitely saw and met them and the royalties gave Alan Vega some money.
7:50 WTF the dude even wears a Spy vs Spy shirt..... wow!
YES I noticed that! VERY COOL!
And then there's Morton Subotnick's Silver Apples of the Moon. Now that's unreal sounds in album form. Love it.
Yeah, Subotnick's Silver Apples of the Moon came out the year before. Hard to think that it wasn't an influence.
Aww... just goes to show how censorship kills art.
Indeed... And that new killer is RUclips... They deleted my artist portfolio of 10 years....
@@carolina_grace5721 Whoa! Why did they do that?
@@ereristark425 i still have no idea... they refused to tell me why... No warnings ... Just gone one day..... Any songs I used of others for dance or covered on acoustic had the proper credits placed... So it wasnt copyright...
Truly... I'm a watcher and commenter of things revealing the gov to be quite evil... Thats what I can only assume they didnt like...
@@carolina_grace5721 make a video on it
Actually in this case it could be argued that capitalism killed art. It could also be argued that by agreeing to put the PanAm logo on their album...they sold out. No disrespect towards Silver Apples but this wasn’t a clear case of censorship for censorship’s sake.
They went into the studio to record an album and the engineer was so afraid of one of their musical instruments? Are you saying actual fear kept this man out of the studio?
Electronic music. The greatest and most diverse music there is imho. Literally no boundries and the only genre that keeps inventing itself over and over again! 🙂🙏🏼
@@user-rc4re5fo2f Thats true for some styles perhaps.. But the fresh deeper stuff isnt just recycling my man. Boundaries are limitless! And the fact that electronic music keeps better and more advanched, is due computer technique and software whats getting better and way more dynamic etc etc..
@@user-rc4re5fo2f lol, It's the most diverse by definition, hence it takes such a long time to explore all the possibilities. 'Human' means nothing, since everything's a human creation, including the electronic devices themselves. Hypnotism and mechanicality are just another of possible forms of expression. And since the dawn of civilization music was, in 99,99% of the cases, about recycling and replaying existing themes.
For anyone trying to find the music from 3:11 it's Hugh Le Caine: Dripsody (1955)
I’m honestly really glad I got this recommended because this was actually entertaining and I feel educated now
Carry on our wayward son!
Smoke one, then listen to SA!
According to Wikipedia, the band the Silver Apples AND the album by Morton Subotnick called "The Silver Apples of the Moon" BOTH took their names from "The Song of Wandering Aengus," an 1897 poem by Irish poet W. B. Yeats.
Both the Silver Apples and Subotnick were active in NYC at about the same time.
Coincidence or what?
That album cover and back is really funny and rather clever.
Sean Tulien It’s hilarious.
Reminds me of the prophetic album cover of the twin towers. I think it was a rap band who had a cover of a plane flying into them!
Highway 1 wait what that’s kinda scary 😳
My RUclips account we already been thru this conspiracy dont act too shocked.
MrSpencerMcIntosh ohhhh. Listen up children, the teacher is getting upset.
how tf did I not know about a jimi Hendrix and silver apples collab
Edit: this post was not serious 😂😂
Andrew Williams - was their collaboration on vinyl - in the form of Hendrix’s, “Rainbow Bridge,” in particular, “The Star Spangled Banner?”
@@jrh11254 yes
Frsss???
You're not as cool as you believe yourself to be.
I hadn't either
R.I.P Simeon Coxe, thank you for bringing electronic music and defying the norm. Big respect forever.
Great video. I'm so glad you mentioned United States of America. Such an underrated band. Check out Fifty Foot Hose as well!! Their Cauldron album is fantastic, and recorded in 67' with lots of synths and weird sounds.
Cosmic Amphetamine Brain so good!!
by far my favorite cover of God Save The Child was done by Fifty Foot Hose
@@3v3n5t4r yeahh it's cosmic hahah
Giorgio Moroder took this and mastered it into what we know as electronic music, electronic artists today are still copying bits from his music and making it into their own. Impressive to hear the roots of where it all began!
Once upon a time in 1967 on a sunny day in middle England in a large shed did Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix, Cream and many more play their gifted sounds.
when I was a teen I listened to the Contact album and really dug it.....This documentary and it's photo of the album cover allowed me to rediscover this wild sound....now I know what to look for. Thanks for the "blast from the past" that let me spot this album again.
They also were said to have invented their own instruments.
Their early sounds remind me very much of The Residents, a avant garde art-music project around Hardy Fox as its driving force, collaborating with lots of other artists.. Founding The Residents in the late 60s, he produced over 60 albums. After Fox died in 2015, the project was continued by Eric Drew Feldman and is still active to this day. The iconic sign of The Residents was always a huge eye ball.
That back cover... HOW IS IT no one said “hey, can we talk about this?”
Exactly. I literally said "oh my god...🤦♀️" when they showed the back cover. I guess it was a different time back then and they thought it was no big deal lmao.
Sometimes, "artistic expression" is just another version of "It's just a prank, bro!"
There's a lot of harsh album covers out there. What made this one controversial was simply the logo being exposed and Pan Am not realizing their intentions of using the back photo. They could of used a pic with no logo. Yeah too bad they didn't talk about the consequences before following through with their choice.
Man you people genuinely disturb me. You have no understanding of what youre actually talking about. Censorship is a disease. You truely see this art as some distasteful edgy trash, then fine, i thinks thats a ridiculous take, but you have your opinions. But acting like it shouldn't be allowed is outrageous.
@@CheshireCad if you honestly think this art was made with the same juvenile, edgy, motivation of just getting a reaction or offending people, as "its just a prank bro", i think you're being naive and ridiculous. First of all i dont think the image is offensive at all, but even if you find it offensive that does not mean thats the only emotional response it can provoke, and just because it holds not emotional or artistic value to you doesnt mean it cant for others. If you dont enjoy it thats fine, but you have no right to invalidate others appreciation for it
Imagine hearing this at the moon landing watch party :0
This has to be the craziest true story of an album cover I’ve ever heard.
It was a great cover, too.
Ahead of their time. But then the world caught up with them in the 1970s and beyond. Now anyone can make a record of whoosh-y space sounds over a MIDI ostinato part for under $1000.
Kaossilator is free on Android and iOS
@steve hurl TRUE
The world is still trying to catch up with them. Your last sentence is as meaningless as saying something along the lines of “any three year old could have done that” when looking at a Jackson Pollock.
Fortunately someone here in Gothenburg had the good sense to book the remaining Silver Apple for a concert not too long ago and publicize it just enough. It was a real treat, as you'd expect. Never thought I'd get to hear it live.
Whaaat in my hometown!! I had No idea!! Thanks for sharing
Unreal! You found the Silver Apples. They opened for jethro Tull's first US performance at they Boston Tea Party. A Dayglo dungeon in Boston. I was 17 and my mind was blown forever! Great stuff.
That's amazing you caught it. I take it they were pretty memorable?
Well, I think the ‘Futurist movement’ of the 20s, Stockhausen, the ‘Musique Concrete’ movement in the 40s , and Delia Derbyshire in the early 60s we’re experimenting with electronic music before these chaps. Perhaps not so ‘pop’, but Delia Derbyshire’s Doctor Who theme in 1963 was definitely groundbreaking and very popular, but yes, these guys are definitely pioneers that deserve more notoriety for sure, they even beat Kraftwerk by at least a year :)
PS: clearly I rattled this off before you went further into depth. Trigger happy me.
Don’t forget Russolo ❤️
Some other interesting early electronic recordings:
CSIRAC (1950-51) -- /watch?v=x7MmrfRr0Hg
Raymond Scott - The Rhythm Modulator (1954) -- /watch?v=o6VsZiNjjZE
Tom Dissevelt & Kid Baltan (Dick Raaymakers) - Song of the Second Moon (1957) -- /watch?v=bVl2_MSwmSA
why does the narrator sound like a prepubescent ray romano
Dam... now I can't un hear it.
Bruhhhh
I thought he sounded like Ray Romano after having his wisdom teeth out, so we're right on it there.
Cheers for that. Can't unhear this now.
This was before the frog expansion pack In his throat was done growing
Bro..that star spangled banner Hendrix/Silver Apples mix is DIVINE.
"The most important band you've never heard of..."
"Ghost Rider" by Suicide is sampled in MIA "Born Free".
It’s a shame so much of her music samples other music, but we don’t know. I was shocked when I heard the Clash song that was sampled in her music.
And Suicide were Silver Apples fans
@@J_Trask why is that a.shame ? You know how many kids got.into good older music because they heard it sampled in something new ?
Kraut Rock Can and still is amazing to this day. Kraftwerk, Radiohead all techno / house hip hop but these guys were 50 years ahead of their time. I used to say the same about CAN when I found them in the 80's. Arcade Fire and other pop/ rock bands sounds like them. What a find. digging it. Literally found these guys 15 minutes ago. They influenced generations of music. As a DJ I'm embarassed I never had heard of them and Im 50 years old.
Damn, that Star Spangled Banner colab with Jimi was sweet!
I have the posthumous Reprise Hendrix LP "Rainbow Bridge," in which it appeared, and sadly the suits never gave the boys credit. Until watching this, I always assumed it was Jimi working with Eddie Kramer varispeeding stuff. The whole piece is absolutely gorgeous
@@timmungenast agreed, the only word to describe it for me is "moving". Makes me want to take the Durango 95 for a spin!
@@timmungenast same...have owned that record for decades. This is such an interesting backstory to that track! Never knew.
Soon as I saw the title of this video and watched the first few minutes I immediately thought to myself "I bet Jimi loved these guys and could make amazing music with them" and boom the Hendrix part came on. I have heard that rendition of Star Spangled Banner 100s of times (Im a huge Hendrix worshipper) and always wondered how tf did Jimi get that bass? The whole track is mesmerizing and I love that they collaborated. Silver Apples is pretty sweet and this is the first time I've heard of them.
Where can we find this recording??
That’s it. I’m boycotting Pan Am.
Lmaao
Ummm about that
If you can show up at my door one year and two seconds from this time you read this this this this I will give you one penny and free trip
😂😂😂
I LOVE the fact that he went on, keeping with his original antique hardware. The exquisite oscillators, and old testing equipment. Very ‘bleeding edge avant grade’. I wonder if there’s any relation between these guys and Morton Subotnik? THANKS FOR SHARING!
I don't know why this was in my recommendeds. I don't know what "glitch pop" is. Sounds like they have some catchy songs though.
I'm not sure what glitch pop is either, but this is neither of those things. This is more like Krautrock / some kind proto-electronica. Krautronica?
It's Electro Glitch and that's because it was fooling around with the electronics of the day to create new sounds. Many sounds we take for granted these days were actually invented back then, only nowadays you just flick a switch and turn a knob.
Wow...that takes me back...in the early 70s, I got a calculator as a birthday present...it had a flourescent green numeric display. I discovered that depending on the number displayed, it would cause an AM radio to emit a tone. And during particular complicated calculations (like hitting the square root button), it would create a rhythmic beat that would not be out of place in more modern music. I played around with this as a kid and even tried my hand at making some songs...but I'm more of a techie than an artist...
I love how you described the artwork as "Banksy style" when It has been speculated that one half of the trip-hop duo Massive Attack (3D) is Banksy. It would make perfect sense if he got musical and visual inspiration from Silver Apples to make experimental music and artwork.
Is this how "simian mobile disco" got their name..
Jordan Baxter was wondering that too
I was just wondering the same thing..
Wondering as well
They named it in memory of Simian.
That thing about him not finding a New drummer and sampling his buddy really made me feel sum type of way
You should also check out White Noise an their album ‘an electric storm’. Delia Derbyshire was a member, her of the original Dr Who theme
That goddamn back cover of the album, it sure changed the history of modern music and buried this band and halted the evolution of electronic music, goddamn.
it was metal as fuck though!!!