Before Are "Friends" Electric?: How Synth-Pop Became Synth-Pop

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @ChrisMezzolesta
    @ChrisMezzolesta 3 года назад +461

    Glaring omission: Yellow Magic Orchestra. From the '4th member' status of Hideki Matsutake, who did programming as assistant to Tomita, to the first-ever uses of the Roland TR-808 and samplers, they were just about as pioneering as Kraftwerk in a later state of the art sense. What started as a one-off style-parody project (Hosono's "Paraiso" album lampooning the Westernized view of Eastern sounds as the 'exotica' style) turned into a band with Beatles-size influence in Japan, including hairstyles! They successfully reinvented their sound and image from 'analog orchestra in tuxedos' playing cod exotica, to straight ahead pop, landing on almost synthpop boy-band status for a couple albums, practically inventing techno along the way on their Technodelic album (samplers in 1981!). Essential.

    • @rodneyabrett
      @rodneyabrett 2 года назад +23

      Yes! YMO and P-Model from Japan. They were actually some of the first bands I listened to that got me into this sound.

    • @jjones7837
      @jjones7837 2 года назад +9

      YMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nailed it. Loved that band.

    • @jacquelineiona1996
      @jacquelineiona1996 2 года назад +9

      I just texted my daughter that I felt Yellow Magic Orchestra was the Kraftwerk of Japan 💯🥰

    • @generath5439
      @generath5439 2 года назад +13

      Yes, and Sparks' No. 1 In Heaven.

    • @rickfrombohemia9550
      @rickfrombohemia9550 2 года назад +6

      Yeah, they practically invented the "80s sound" with tracks like Castalia or Riot in Lagos.

  • @ronanjenkins2323
    @ronanjenkins2323 Год назад +64

    Gary absolutely deserves all his success and even more. He's such an inspiration.

    • @j.maxell3030
      @j.maxell3030 10 месяцев назад +2

      Quien te dijo que el Synthpop (EDM) se forma del Progressive Rock & Krautrock Alemán de Kraftwerk y el Post Punk de Numan?...

    • @Sesamox
      @Sesamox 2 месяца назад

      @@j.maxell3030 Se lo dije yo, pero no me hagas mucho caso.

  • @thestomp1647
    @thestomp1647 3 года назад +191

    The Bowie quote at 21:33 about yearning for a future that would never come to pass is kind of the core of the entire SynthWave scene. A soundtrack for a future that never happened but people dreamt about in the 1980's.

    • @windnchgo
      @windnchgo 3 года назад +14

      Kraftwerk name-checking David Bowie on Trans Europe Express and Bowie returning the favor on Heroes with V-2 Schneider

    • @JustMe-wq5dl
      @JustMe-wq5dl 3 года назад +4

      RBE the venus project would have been that future that never happened. The recource based economy was invented in the 80's by Jacque Fresco. Unfortunately the capatalistic monetary system we live in today overruled because of the greedy politicians and governments.

    • @zapkvr
      @zapkvr 3 года назад

      Crap

    • @vondefeo8586
      @vondefeo8586 3 года назад +6

      Ain't that the truth, we believed we would be having leisure time only with robots doing all the work, wearing silver suits flying around space...and here we are back in Victorian Britain, very depressing

    • @neiljumpinjackflash7551
      @neiljumpinjackflash7551 3 года назад

      @@JustMe-wq5dl Sadly real, it's about time for alternative three.

  • @laninfapimentel311
    @laninfapimentel311 3 года назад +581

    Why does synth music in general makes my brain so happy? Seriously, it feels like I'm receiving a direct brain massage, it's surreal!

    • @honestguy7764
      @honestguy7764 3 года назад +27

      Same here, Hi-NRG /Italodisco does.

    • @dalespadafora8869
      @dalespadafora8869 3 года назад +16

      This is VERY true!!!

    • @sstanfo1
      @sstanfo1 3 года назад +43

      I'd be very curious to see if people in the late 70's and early 80's felt the same feeling when they were first hearing synth pop. If so it's not culture and it's something weird in our brain.

    • @induspherix
      @induspherix 3 года назад +14

      Anyone like to turn me on to some favorites in the variety of synthwave, darkwave, or witch house?
      I can recommend some of the finest from the progressive breaks/house/DnB record bins:
      Love in Traffic (Hybrid Remix) - Satoshi Tomiie
      Bitter Little Pill - Starecase
      Down to the Wire - Hybrid
      Dawn Breaker - John Digweed (& Nick Muir vs Ian O'Donovan)
      Ascension - Phil Tangent & Pennygiles
      Flaming June (Original mix and Chicane mix) - BT
      There is a mystery about that eargasm hiding somewhere between familiarity and novelty in the finest electronic sound textures. Then there is a whole catalogue of song writing and sound production genius factors that go deep with the craft that defies words.

    • @KaitainCPS
      @KaitainCPS 3 года назад +56

      It's because it introduces sustain to a genre that rarely has it. Guitars have a fast attack and decay, so they are somewhat percussive, energetic instruments, but ones that find it hard to hold a note for an extended period. Sustained notes seem to important for producing certain heightened emotions in the listener, particularly melancholy. It's why violins often carry the burden of melancholic passages in orchestral music.
      So synths broaden the palette of emotions available for composers to play with. They can create a warm glow, a sense of sadness, and often both together.
      For all that synths are often associated with futurism, ultimately they are *romantic* instruments.

  • @suzie4211
    @suzie4211 2 года назад +249

    I think Mike Oldfield’s 1973 “Tubular Bells” deserves a mention. The haunting intro of Tubular Bells and the use of the theremin and synth throughout that album.. was as important as prog bands Yes.. or solo artists as Vangelis or Jean Michel Jarre. Mike Oldfield also pioneered that path with albums like Tubular Bells (1973) and Ommadawn (1975).. before Jarre’s “Oxygene” album in 1976.

    • @blueeyedboy-official2630
      @blueeyedboy-official2630 2 года назад +8

      Spot on Suzie. Ommadawn and hergest ridge especially were ground-breaking albums

    • @chloedevereaux1801
      @chloedevereaux1801 2 года назад +6

      no theramin on tub1....

    • @frankcooke1692
      @frankcooke1692 2 года назад +7

      Suzanne Ciani. Back in the earlier part of last century - a 'computer' referred to someone who was tasked with performing calculations, running punch-card machines. It was largely seen as a woman's job. As was phone-exchange operating. Early synths are not incredibly dissimilar to telephone switchboards. Hence the early pioneers of electronic music looked like your mum's friends. They wouldn't have looked out of place behind a desk in a library.

    • @cheesetomato9140
      @cheesetomato9140 Год назад +4

      There wasn't anybody better than Vince Clark of Yazzo & Depeche Mode/Erasure he was a true synth wizard.

    • @j.maxell3030
      @j.maxell3030 Год назад +3

      Tubular Bells?...un tema electrónico de pioneros como Kingsley, Derbyshire, Scott o Garson años luz en base y modelo electrónico.
      En el 72 Jarre (Synthetizer Man/ Freedom Day) le daba cátedra de Pre-Synthpop y Electrónica a Mike O. y a los muchachos de Conny Plank y sus flautas (Kraftwerk).
      Para 1977 Moroder (E. Munich) con el inicio de la EDM y los 3 primeros géneros de esta escena (NRG, Synthpop, Electro) ya había definido todo lo que se escucharía en los 80s.
      Tubular Bells 🧐

  • @bigboydookie
    @bigboydookie 3 года назад +392

    I was genuinely surprised to hear you say that Gary Numan did'nt really get the acclaim he deserved til the early 2000's, because in my circle of friends he was a veritable god! Plus the song "Cars" was EVERYWHERE during that time! One of my most vivid memories is when I got my first Gary Numan album... one of my classmates in middle school got "The Pleasure Principle" for christmas, but he only liked hard rock, so he brought it to school and asked me if I wanted it, I had never heard of Gary, or "new wave" music, but I took it home and listened to it... I was absolutely blown the fuck away... I ran over to my friend Kelvin's house and we listened to it over and over for the next 2 or 3 days, then I played it for the rest of my friends. That album had a HUGE impact on me, and all my friends. It literally started me on my journey into electronic music and discovering other bands like OMD, flock of seagulls, Heaven 17, Devo, Depeche Mode, Kraftwerk, and many others. To this day, "Metal" is still one of my favorite songs. New Wave/Synth Pop/Electronica are still my favorite genres of music next to hip-hop, which one can argue is the child of 80's synth-pop.

    • @alanthesheep6428
      @alanthesheep6428 3 года назад +48

      Numan was vilified by the press mercilessly throughout the 80's and 90s. It was only when he released Pure in 2000 that he finally started to get some respect. Of course, the press were wrong all along - he was a true pioneer (despite his bad period in the 90s).

    • @NFLed
      @NFLed 3 года назад +4

      I used to listen to KROQ in the early 80s and they mostly didn't like Cars, with I think listeners getting tired of it quickly, very similar to the synth-pop song near that same time Pop Muzic by M which was completely ignored by KROQ.

    • @bigboydookie
      @bigboydookie 3 года назад +4

      @@alanthesheep6428 ...i was absolutely not paying attention to the press then, because I missed all that ... are we talking US or UK?

    • @thebarbaryghostsf
      @thebarbaryghostsf 3 года назад +3

      What a heartwarming story :)

    • @rbb2984
      @rbb2984 3 года назад +19

      To any right thinking person, Gary Numan is one of the immortals. This channel is right about him not being deemed cool at the time though. Quite often the alleged arbiters of coolness are totally out of their depth and Numan was one of those times.

  • @Painless360
    @Painless360 3 года назад +596

    The 70s and early 80s were a fantastically exciting time to be growing up surrounded with this soundtrack of evolving 'synth music'. Many of these songs are still on rotation in my playlists today...

    • @fuzzblightyear145
      @fuzzblightyear145 3 года назад +31

      Was a child in late 70s early 80s, and OMD, JM Jarre, Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode & Gary Newman were the sound track of my childhood. Great times!

    • @epsteenwusmerdered9878
      @epsteenwusmerdered9878 3 года назад +14

      I wasn't around then, but certainly one of the most creative periods in modern music. For my money, the late 70s/early 80s had better music than the 60s

    • @Artaud1957
      @Artaud1957 3 года назад +10

      I was 20 years old in 1977. It was indeed a wonderful time. The UK and US punk explosion of the mid-to-late 70s, and so much of what came next. The revolution in microelectronics technology had much to do with the rise of synth-pop. Cheaper microprocessors and memory chips made synths cheap enough for almost any band.

    • @gaskellr44
      @gaskellr44 3 года назад +5

      @@epsteenwusmerdered9878 I was, and it was a brilliant time for an early to mid teenager and you have the timeline pretty much right...but there was some great music in the early to mid 60s to mid to late 70s too, so from my experience, it will be very close either way....but you can compare music evolution to mans evolution...i.e. look what we have done to the planet as evolved humans compared to look where we are musically to our music situation now....both situ are pretty awful.

    • @epsteenwusmerdered9878
      @epsteenwusmerdered9878 3 года назад +7

      @@gaskellr44 Sadly agreed. Seems like music (culture in general, really) has declined in quality over the last few decades. Still some good stuff being made, but it's harder to find.

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge2280 3 года назад +473

    Vince Clarke was the common element in Yazoo, Erasure and Depeche Mode ... he had a big hand in electronic music.

    • @marcalvarez4890
      @marcalvarez4890 3 года назад +39

      Im shocked more time wasn't given to him and his MASSIVE influence on everyone.

    • @michaelayliffe7238
      @michaelayliffe7238 3 года назад +36

      Trash theory has a whole Vince Clarke episode, its very hard to condense 50 years into 30 minuets.

    • @stereoroid
      @stereoroid 3 года назад +16

      The video mentions he was inspired by OMD, one specific track was “Almost”, which is excellent. Kraft we’re could be cold, OMD re-humanised electronic music. Then they made Dazzle Ships, an album that wasn’t properly appreciated for 30+ years.

    • @marcalvarez4890
      @marcalvarez4890 3 года назад +3

      @@michaelayliffe7238 Nope. Just searched for it and i couldn't find what you describe.
      Maybe it was another chanel?

    • @idonthavealoginname
      @idonthavealoginname 3 года назад +8

      He came late in the day, there were so many other producers before him making electronic music.

  • @vdcg2010
    @vdcg2010 Год назад +67

    When I was a kid I was a huge fan of Flock of Seagulls, they’re synth work blew me away the first time I heard them and I tried to reproduce the synthesizer work on the piano.

    • @alireid5819
      @alireid5819 Год назад +3

      Massive, to the point of getting into Pulp Fiction.

    • @norbertrivera
      @norbertrivera Год назад +5

      Me too and alsor the music of Howard Jones.

    • @baxtronx5972
      @baxtronx5972 Год назад +2

      One key method.

    • @markgallagher1621
      @markgallagher1621 Год назад +3

      @@norbertrivera 82, 83ish lots of bands started the synth, Howard Jones, Eurythmics, Georgio Moroder, Vangelis, new order. By 1983 lots of songs in charts had very modern synth sounds

    • @norbertrivera
      @norbertrivera Год назад +1

      @@markgallagher1621 yeah,i know that.

  • @melomane2010
    @melomane2010 2 года назад +121

    This just popped into my head - the soundtrack for the sci-fi classic "Forbidden Planet" in the 1950's was entirely electronic and extremely influential.

    • @MrJeepsters
      @MrJeepsters 2 года назад +12

      En france, à la radio télévision, Pierre Shaeffer a expérimenté la musique
      electronique dès 1950.
      Il a aussi créé le GRM avec Pierre HENRY (psyche rock) dans les années 60.
      Jean-Michel Jarre y a travaillé avant de sortir "oxygène ".

    • @kadiummusic
      @kadiummusic 2 года назад +7

      Absolutely, decades ahead of it's time! 😎

    • @jetpigeon8758
      @jetpigeon8758 2 года назад +1

      And also the soundtrack from the film "The Legend of Hell House" 1973.

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 Год назад +4

      And then there was the countless electronic compositions by Raymond Scott in the 1950s and 1960s that were often used for TV and Radio advertisements and TV programs.

    • @Polyphemus47
      @Polyphemus47 Год назад +2

      A 78rpm album of the soundtrack music for the Hitchcock movie, "Spellbound" was my introduction to electronic music (theremin), at about 4 years old. "The Day The Earth Stood Still" is a standout soundtrack - theremin played by Samuel Hoffman, as in "Spellbound".
      Perrey and Kingsley were big faves of mine in the '60s. They really deserved more time in this vid.

  • @forestR1
    @forestR1 3 года назад +90

    i rediscovered Gary Numan lately. he has made some sensational music in the last decade which i never new existed

    • @quasarsphere
      @quasarsphere 3 года назад +11

      I just discovered him a couple of weeks ago, when I stumbled on the "Intruder" video. Now I'm a huge fan. I like his new stuff WAY more than the old classics.

    • @nanochase
      @nanochase 3 года назад +9

      Same here, Numan has been quietly pushing his art into new territories for the past 30 years, it's genuinely remarkable. I want him to live forever if only to hear where he goes next.

    • @weimaraner2
      @weimaraner2 3 года назад +3

      Terrible wig though !

    • @SuperDonnaMO
      @SuperDonnaMO 3 года назад +2

      @@weimaraner2 It's not a wig! Read his story to find out.

    • @lorenzoboyd6889
      @lorenzoboyd6889 3 года назад +2

      Years back, I bought 'Skin Mechanic' on a lark at a used CD shop.
      By far, the best money that I've EVER spent on tunes!

  • @johnscoone9310
    @johnscoone9310 2 года назад +137

    Kraftwerk's Autobahn got the hook into me. ELO deserved at least a mention, along with The Move. Jeff Lynne's contributions to synth-pop should not be overlooked.

    • @grinja73
      @grinja73 2 года назад +3

      Thats true a definite contribution but ELO is so uncool lol.

    • @johnmcintosh5413
      @johnmcintosh5413 2 года назад +10

      @@grinja73 Jeff Lynne isn’t cool cannot understand that statement Mate .

    • @cheesetomato9140
      @cheesetomato9140 Год назад +3

      Spot on! Yes ELOs time album is class

    • @cheesetomato9140
      @cheesetomato9140 Год назад +3

      @Jonathan Page Bet you've never heard any ELO ?

    • @GeraldM_inNC
      @GeraldM_inNC Год назад +3

      We Are The Robots

  • @legeantdunord4091
    @legeantdunord4091 3 года назад +240

    There’s an important missing time...1978: No.1 in heaven, a synth pop work of art by Sparks with Ron and Russell Mael.

    • @bbrexuk
      @bbrexuk 3 года назад +14

      and Beat the Clock. amazing tunes

    • @davidmitchell7181
      @davidmitchell7181 3 года назад +20

      Exactly what I was looking for, the influence Sparks had on the synth rock scene in Britain was enormous.

    • @mark..A
      @mark..A 3 года назад +8

      Rons stare should have been cencored

    • @beetooex
      @beetooex 3 года назад +21

      I came looking for a comment like this before even watching the video. I knew he'd ignore Sparks. Fuck sake.

    • @legeantdunord4091
      @legeantdunord4091 3 года назад +6

      @@beetooex…please, let’s be polite. All tastes are in nature. Moreover, the Mael brothers do not fit in any category if only in theirs😉

  • @fab208athome
    @fab208athome 3 года назад +103

    You definitely missed out Sparks and their album Number 1 in Heaven. Released in March 1979, it's a synth pop classic and predates a lot of bands mentioned. It was produced by Giorgio Moroder and spawned several hit singles in the UK.

    • @LostwaveObsession
      @LostwaveObsession 2 года назад +3

      I agree, I think Beat The Clock really 'woke me up' as a kid. I was never the same since hearing that!

    • @MrJeepsters
      @MrJeepsters 2 года назад +4

      Je pense que KRAFTWERK et GIORGIO MORODER ont apporté les
      dernières pierres de l' édifice pop rock.
      Les anglais ont utilisé ce nouveau mode musical.
      Ils l'ont,d'ailleur,très bien utilisé.

    • @schmeejie
      @schmeejie 2 года назад +3

      yeah i was pissed sparks wasn't in this but i'm glad kraftwerk was. love them both

    • @PatriciaCross
      @PatriciaCross 2 года назад +6

      Even earlier Sparks deserves a mention here.

    • @marchubler5979
      @marchubler5979 2 года назад +1

      Absolutely! "This town" was published before "Autobahn"

  • @DJ-lp6bh
    @DJ-lp6bh 10 месяцев назад +35

    Cars by Gary Numan was HUGE! You had to be there. I was 9 years old in 1979 and we were listening to Cars in the hood. This was two years before MTV was even a thing. That song was a monster. ❤

    • @Zeibekkikina
      @Zeibekkikina 8 месяцев назад +1

      I loved Numan's Cars. I was 11 when that was released, still get goosebumps every time that intro kicks in ❤

    • @natalyawoop4263
      @natalyawoop4263 7 месяцев назад

      @@jcfal1708 It wasn't just perspective, the song charted high in the US

    • @dec66.18
      @dec66.18 7 месяцев назад +1

      Don't forget Are friends electric.

  • @LividImp
    @LividImp 3 года назад +318

    Half the fun of watching a Trash Theory episode is seeing how much of the stuff mentioned is music you've owned for years and realizing, "Damn, that was music history I was living through. I'm a lucky mofo!"

    • @aidy6000
      @aidy6000 3 года назад +1

      A blessing for sure. To me it's just history

    • @jameswarner8038
      @jameswarner8038 3 года назад +1

      Everyone is

    • @geoffoakland
      @geoffoakland 3 года назад

      I had Jean Michel Jarre's Oxygene and Equinoxe on vinyl, cool albums.One of his compositions was used in the film Gallipoli with Mel Gibson.

    • @geoffoakland
      @geoffoakland 3 года назад

      @@orionsshoe2424 cool, ii didn't know that, thanks for the info.Got to see that movie now.

  • @ariloveshouse
    @ariloveshouse 3 года назад +230

    I love how all this culminates into 1983's Blue Monday. That song would change music forever. Long live Joy Division and New Order!!!

    • @350125GOW
      @350125GOW 3 года назад +28

      Ian Curtis liked Kraftwerk Bernard Sumner liked Moroder BOOM.

    • @depeszTOja
      @depeszTOja 3 года назад +7

      "I put my my trust in you"

    • @dlvnmedia
      @dlvnmedia 3 года назад +7

      I am smiling because I am wearing an Unknown Pleasures shirt and have it tattooed on my arm as well. Love them so much

    • @ariloveshouse
      @ariloveshouse 3 года назад +3

      @@dlvnmedia that's awesome! I'd love to get the image on the inner sleeve of unknown pleasures tattooed on me some day 😁

    • @TheArpomni2
      @TheArpomni2 3 года назад +4

      @@dlvnmedia got j d tats too, first one on arm done 1980 after Ian died, then lwtua Angel on my chest

  • @noprofitgeisha
    @noprofitgeisha 2 года назад +79

    I was disappointed that YMO was not mentioned in any capacity. If anything they deserve mention for bridging the East and West through their 1978 self-titled album. I believe they influenced many of the UK artists you mentioned in the early 80s.

    • @Ebinsugewa
      @Ebinsugewa Год назад +5

      This is a huge miss imo. Especially given their massive effect on the history of video game music. Which for those of later generations is their primary experience of electronic music far moreso than any of these artists, for better or worse.

    • @arnoldsegovia9022
      @arnoldsegovia9022 Год назад +3

      AGREE!!!

    • @ymotechnopopfan
      @ymotechnopopfan Год назад +3

      Same with Telex.

    • @johnpound3327
      @johnpound3327 Год назад

      ​@@Ebinsugewaby CV 😮😮😮😮

    • @perfredlund
      @perfredlund Год назад +2

      And Ryuichi Sakamoto before that again ("Thousand Knives" is my fav album ever). And he was also in YMO (haha).

  • @charlesandrewmoore8699
    @charlesandrewmoore8699 3 года назад +44

    Thomas Dolby's contributions to Foreigner's huge success should not be left out moving forward! Epic!

    • @andylee6228
      @andylee6228 Год назад +1

      He also toured with Lene Lovitch. She probably deserves a mention as well.

    • @debmurray2734
      @debmurray2734 Год назад +1

      I clicked in the hopes of seeing Thomas's genius credited. Great coverage nonetheless!

  • @d.c.8828
    @d.c.8828 3 года назад +129

    Ministry's With Sympathy was a highly-influental album, and their whole transition from synthpop to industrial to thrash metal would be a fascinating episode!

    • @rciscon
      @rciscon 3 года назад +7

      You can credit/blame Al Jourgenson's addition to LSD and heroin for that transition!

    • @d.c.8828
      @d.c.8828 3 года назад +7

      @@rciscon It be like that sometimes

    • @epsteenwusmerdered9878
      @epsteenwusmerdered9878 3 года назад +6

      @@rciscon Just LSD and heroin?

    • @mancheezethegreat8617
      @mancheezethegreat8617 3 года назад +1

      Love that one.

    • @Cosmetic_Astro
      @Cosmetic_Astro 3 года назад

      Bro too many smart words

  • @garyandrewranford
    @garyandrewranford Год назад +21

    This is so well done, and yes, almost impossible to capture all of the music that came thru the synth pop...
    Other mentions...
    Thomas Dolby - various
    Afrika Bambaataa and the Soul Sonic Force - Planet Rock
    Vangelis - Chariots of Fire
    Perhaps a mention for other TV shows that embraced the synth revolution...
    UFO
    The Persuaders
    Six Million Dollar Man
    The Professionals
    Etc....

  • @mikeclemens795
    @mikeclemens795 3 года назад +95

    I'm SO pleased Delia got named checked! That Doctor Who theme is legendary.

    • @trespire
      @trespire 2 года назад +8

      @Mike Clemens Delia's sampling and endless splicing of tape to almost single handedly produce a new form of music can not be understated. The soundscapes her mathematical mind created are a unique contribution.

    • @DaveInLAS
      @DaveInLAS 8 месяцев назад +1

      That’s absolutely legendarily epic! Her use of music concréte, thanks for showcasing her!

    • @erikverkoyen8689
      @erikverkoyen8689 8 месяцев назад +6

      Not to take anything away from Delia Derbyshire but she wasn't the only one at the Radiophonic Workshop and there were others before her using those techniques. Check out Tom Dissevelt & Kid Baltan - Song of the Second Moon (1957)

    • @DaveInLAS
      @DaveInLAS 8 месяцев назад

      @@erikverkoyen8689 Thanks Erik! Found them on Apple Music and now Googling as I’m listening.

    • @timbaldwin2383
      @timbaldwin2383 8 месяцев назад +1

      Loooove the TimeLord's version of the Doctor Who theme (80s club classic). I can't think of the correct name of the song right now, but if you look up TimeLords, I'm sure you can find it.

  • @howardgreenwich490
    @howardgreenwich490 3 года назад +84

    There are several versions of this story out there on the tubes and webs, and I get that it's impossible to aggregate all of the precedents and influencers. But I do think several are typically missed or underrated. Klause Schulze released a synth-based album in 1973 (Cyborg), was an original band member for Tangerine Dream, and founded Kraut rock band Ash Ra Temble. He was a contemporary composer in many ways of Brian Eno. Tangerine Dream also warrants more than a mention - their synth-based album Phaedra (1974) hit #15 and Rubycon (1975) hit #10 in the UK - which surely gave young Brits an early exposure to pure synth sounds and rhythms. They, with Schulze, and Jean Michelle Jarre, perfected the use of synth sequencers, which ultimately led to Morodor’s Moog Modular-based “I Feel Love” featuring Donna Summer, which was both a culmination of years of experiments with synths in pop music, but also a harbinger of many electronic music styles to come. I do appreciate that Trash Theory acknowledged the also ground-breaking work in the mid-70s of Isao Tomita and Vangelis, who pushed the limits of synthesizers in a symphonic framework. The last missing piece here for me is Blondie’s Heart of Glass, which was released on the album Parallel Lines in 1978 (predating Are Friends Electric) and then released as a single in January 1979, going on to chart at #1 in both the US and the UK 1979. Blondie was not a synth pop band, but Heart of Glass’s cool vocals over synth textures could easily be included in a top 10 of synth pop.

    • @JALNIN66
      @JALNIN66 2 года назад +3

      Great points. Blondie was quite the innovator. Also was the first person to crossover rap into another genre in her song Rapture. Have to admit. The guy in the video looks like he could've inspired Flava-Flav. KRS One gave her a head nod with "Step into a World".

    • @tipsybass7060
      @tipsybass7060 2 года назад +4

      Yes, Tangerine Dream isn’t mentioned in many of these Infographs. They scored one of the most important movies of the 1980s, Legend, with Tom cruise and Tim Curry. Directed by Ridley Scott. Herbie Hancock, the first synth pop video on mtv..

    • @sharkeyes
      @sharkeyes 2 года назад +2

      @@Lamster66 magic fly oh my Jesus that is an iconic track 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @Achilles5937
      @Achilles5937 2 года назад +1

      Howard, you know your music. One of the more influencial Tangerine. Dream albums was "Ricochet" and "Force Majeure", at least for me. I'm a prog rock fan but it is easy to cross over to advent garde music like Vangelis and Kraftwerk. Giorgio Moroder's "The Chase" from the Midnight Express movie soundtrack was a killer piece of music and through that I found Donna Summer's "I feel love" song. Gary Numan's album "The pleasure principle" was the icing on the cake.

  • @deanosaur808
    @deanosaur808 10 месяцев назад +11

    Space and Cerrone deserved a mention. They both created at least one song each that were highly influential. Magic Fly and Supernature 🔥🔥🔥

  • @andrulemon
    @andrulemon 3 года назад +183

    OMG, the Dr Who theme is such synth pop. That's amazing.

    • @salo7227
      @salo7227 3 года назад +41

      Delia Derbyshire is a tragic genius. She was decades before her time. An amazing person.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 3 года назад +14

      I was an American kid in the ‘80s, not realizing that was two decades old. That theme made me want to play synth. There is still nothing quite like it.

    • @andrulemon
      @andrulemon 3 года назад +3

      @@5roundsrapid263 those guitars loops are also very joy division esque

    • @RobertoGinsburg
      @RobertoGinsburg 3 года назад +10

      @@salo7227 Delia was "uncredited" :(

    • @Bradley_Lute
      @Bradley_Lute 3 года назад +12

      It still sounds cool to this day. Like some chillwave artist could make it and it would be an indie hit. It slaps.

  • @steven2212
    @steven2212 3 года назад +152

    I believe Devo deserves a spot in your list. Well done.

    • @petertrudelljr
      @petertrudelljr 2 года назад +4

      @@Lamster66 Are we not men?

    • @genossinwaabooz4373
      @genossinwaabooz4373 2 года назад +4

      We're ALL D-E-V-O. !!!

    • @andrewjackson7758
      @andrewjackson7758 2 года назад +11

      DEVO was the first synth pop band most Americans had ever heard, and were featured musical guests on Saturday Night Live in 1978. Neil Young began jamming out with them, and he wasn't underground at all with a #1 pop hit in America and several platnum albums under his belt by then.
      Sly and the Family Stone "Family Affair," from 1971, also wasn't recognized. It had a fully electronic drum machine in it and went to #1 on the pop charts as well.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 2 года назад +2

      Even the Drums on some songs more in the second album on up were these Franken drums of electric within acoustic and put inside a small not kids but like a small jazz set expanded with an important part of the drums they used pickups and some guitar electronics from basic kits to amplify the drums. They wanted a better sounding electronic Drumkit for less since the ones being sold at the time in 1970's were very expensive but not the best for sound transmission, a 4 to 8 set of square pads, that were cheap and poor sounding like most of these being sold today are under $200 so really not worth it.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 2 года назад +2

      @@andrewjackson7758 Yes Devo even ended up on the 1979 movie, Heavy Metal by Don Felder. The song was a different take on the song Working in The Coal Mine that was a big hit, not a #1 but was in the top #40 at one point.

  • @budgetkeyboardist
    @budgetkeyboardist Год назад +6

    I remember hearing Tubeway Army's "You are in my vision" the first time - it blew me away. When Cars blew up in the US, I wasn't surprised. With almost three thousand comments, why am I bothering? Probably no one will ever see it. But it helps, a little bit, increase the reach of the video and channel in YT, so this is my comment. Outstanding job on this!

  • @mardzipan
    @mardzipan 3 года назад +61

    Jean-Michel Jarre is a genius. Thanks for covering him. His music was used as the soundtrack to an iconic movie (to Australians anyway) in the early 80s called “Gallipoli” which I think made a lot more people get into his music. Including my dad at the time who then passed on his love for his music to me :)

    • @onetruebob_tj
      @onetruebob_tj 3 года назад +1

      Absolutely love that film!

    • @headron66
      @headron66 3 года назад +1

      Tubular Bells is a standard in any good record collection. A Genius.

    • @Bat_Boy
      @Bat_Boy 3 года назад +2

      Yes! I remember feeling like the only person in the state of Nebraska was listening to him in the mid-80s.

    • @rogerwennstrom6677
      @rogerwennstrom6677 3 года назад +1

      @@headron66 Tubular Bells is Mike Oldfield though :)

    • @headron66
      @headron66 3 года назад +2

      @@rogerwennstrom6677 😂Yes I know. I wasn’t answering the top comment just giving another genius a shout out. My bag, I should have explained that👍

  • @joeyday1252
    @joeyday1252 2 года назад +23

    I've noticed that no one ever mentions Gary Wright as a synth pop influencer. His 1975 songs "Dream Weaver" and "Love is Alive" are both synth heavy and most definitely pop songs.

    • @joerg6908
      @joerg6908 2 года назад +1

      "Silent Fury" and " Are you weepin'" are fantastic examples of synth-rock.

    • @lqr824
      @lqr824 9 месяцев назад +1

      Excellent, I never thought of it but you're absolutely right

    • @jackkanter1790
      @jackkanter1790 8 месяцев назад +1

      You took my post right out of my head...though years later. Wright's success with synth pop long pre-dates the punks and new wavers. And by the way, Tomita's first name is pronounced "ee-sow" (rhymes with pow).

  • @frankcooke1692
    @frankcooke1692 2 года назад +485

    Fun fact: Gary Numan is two weeks older than Gary Oldman.

    • @davidlopez-rs1hp
      @davidlopez-rs1hp Год назад +17

      Ahahahaha get it Newman hahaha hahaha Oldman *wheezes* 😂😫💩🤣🤣🤣

    • @frankcooke1692
      @frankcooke1692 Год назад +22

      @@davidlopez-rs1hp Do we have a problem, sir?

    • @j.maxell3030
      @j.maxell3030 Год назад +7

      Dato curioso: El Synthpop se forma del EDM Concreto (Giorgio Moroder) el cual se forja de misma música electrónica, no del Krautrock & Progressive Rock Dusseldorf de Kraftwerk ni el Post Punk de Numan 😉

    • @beliveonlinetv
      @beliveonlinetv Год назад +3

      😭

    • @kundeleczek1
      @kundeleczek1 Год назад +2

      ​@@davidlopez-rs1hpbecause surnames

  • @krisswatt
    @krisswatt 3 года назад +89

    Absolutely blew my mind with the part about the Dr Who theme. I've heard that hundreds of times but never thought about it that much. Brilliant!

    • @DonnieDarko1
      @DonnieDarko1 3 года назад +2

      !

    • @davedogge2280
      @davedogge2280 3 года назад +8

      Delia Derbyshire is a genius she got some recognition a few years before she died though but not enough during her entire lifetime / career.

    • @CaesarTjalbo
      @CaesarTjalbo 3 года назад +5

      It's on YT: The Delian Mode - Delia Derbyshire documentary

    • @d.c.8828
      @d.c.8828 3 года назад +3

      Delia was an absolute legend.

    • @salo7227
      @salo7227 3 года назад +5

      Delia was incredible. Only now is she posthumously garnering the attention and credit she so richly deserves.

  • @patientzerobeat
    @patientzerobeat 2 года назад +104

    This is an excellent documentary! I suppose Devo ought to get a mention. And Sparks for their 2 Georgio Moroder produced albums (Number One In Heaven and Terminal Jive). As for the very popular 80s stuff influenced by their 70s predecessors , New Order would be right up there, providing influence for stuff to come later.

    • @gypdarin1458
      @gypdarin1458 2 года назад +2

      Amen

    • @Corson
      @Corson 2 года назад +4

      I was 20 when I first heard it on the radio here in New England. "Cars" just had this sound about it. I didn't stop and think about the instruments in the song, just that it was so different and edgy. I have always had preference to British New Wave, Alternative music than American Country or even Rap (awful).

    • @petermgruhn
      @petermgruhn Год назад

      Weren't Devo after it became synth pop?

    • @stuartmoore6310
      @stuartmoore6310 Год назад

      @@petermgruhn 1979

    • @paulfogarty7724
      @paulfogarty7724 10 месяцев назад

      Yep, and a lot of those later groups even got their "weird keyboard player look " from Sparks.

  • @misterakt
    @misterakt 2 года назад +26

    im very glad to see Silver Apples getting the recognition they rightly deserve when it comes to the history of electronic music. they really were the first electronica duet ever!

  • @thingeeeeeee
    @thingeeeeeee 3 года назад +90

    surprised that Yellow Magic Orchestra wasn't as influential in the UK compared to USA.

    • @ВладимирКруглов-к9о
      @ВладимирКруглов-к9о 3 года назад +5

      They were influential in the UK, too - only short-lived as a commercial act. Other musicians listened intently.

    • @loulou7194
      @loulou7194 3 года назад +15

      The YMO member Ryūichi Sakamoto collaborated with David Sylvian, leader of the underrated English band called Japan, on 2 great songs in 1982 and 1983:
      - Bamboo Music ruclips.net/video/_u6bmagKNfc/видео.html
      - Forbidden Colours ruclips.net/video/x1YkHJJi-tc/видео.html
      The latter was used for the movie 'Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence' with David Bowie and... Ryūichi Sakamoto of course !

    • @Rijadaan
      @Rijadaan 3 года назад +3

      @@loulou7194 Sakamoto co-wrote and performed on the Japan track "Taking Islands In Africa"

    • @Bradley_Lute
      @Bradley_Lute 3 года назад +4

      Such an amazing group! Haruomi Hosono and Ryuichi Sakamoto are two of my favorite artists. I'm surprised that the songs I was hearing by them 10 years ago were Simoon and Firecracker. Those aren't quite as interesting to me. For me it is Light In Darkness, Cue, The Madmen and Exotic Dance. Such effecting songs and definitely synth pop pioneers. I like Neue Tanz a lot. It's a very weird art pop album.

    • @VinchVolt
      @VinchVolt 3 года назад +3

      I'd say they were important to the development of the UK scene too. A lot of the British acts mentioned here who were active in the 80's cited YMO as an influence; heck the Human League even made a collaborative EP with them in 1993.

  • @christophervan9634
    @christophervan9634 3 года назад +144

    A Mellotron is not a synth, it is actually a early sampler, it plays tapes, which you can record on.

    • @chriscuthbertson
      @chriscuthbertson 3 года назад +13

      Was about to say the same.

    • @ВладимирКруглов-к9о
      @ВладимирКруглов-к9о 3 года назад +3

      Agreed

    • @robinsss
      @robinsss 3 года назад +4

      that's what i thought
      that's one of the clear mistakes in the DOC

    • @mrfuzztone
      @mrfuzztone 3 года назад +15

      The Mellotron had a big influence on what kind of sounds could be made. Was not a synth but had an impact on the interest in synths

    • @christophervan9634
      @christophervan9634 3 года назад +5

      @@mrfuzztone Sure, but it is not a synth. Like I said it is a early sampler.

  • @calliemiller3956
    @calliemiller3956 2 года назад +16

    Loved all of this. Since you made mention of what you might've forgotten to mention: Germany's synthpop band called Propaganda, formed in 1982. Totally brilliant!

    • @jfv65
      @jfv65 Год назад +1

      absolutely!

  • @tedonyszczak3029
    @tedonyszczak3029 3 года назад +35

    Out of the park hit! Most succinct accurate and comprehensive history of electronic musics origins ever. Imagine if you could get the rights and expand it into a full production. This is truly amazing and you should be very proud. My hats off to you sir!

    • @janemorrow6672
      @janemorrow6672 3 года назад +3

      Yep totally agree! A brilliant bit of research.

  • @namekin4411
    @namekin4411 3 года назад +33

    Lovely 37 minute video on this beautiful genre

  • @petertrudelljr
    @petertrudelljr 2 года назад +11

    Caught your history of Goth and now this... I'm now subscribed. I'm feeling every one of my 55 years, but this music... of my tweens through twenties is so special, the entire musical landscape exploded and fragmented...

  • @jiros00
    @jiros00 3 года назад +41

    This is fascinating. I didn't know the Dr Who soundtrack was inspired by WW2 sirens. Amazing!

    • @mrfuzztone
      @mrfuzztone 3 года назад +10

      More about the lady who did the Dr Who sounds in the recent movie: Sisters with Transistors

  • @jakehepworth8938
    @jakehepworth8938 3 года назад +24

    As a sound engineer in Sheffield over the years I had the absolute pleasure to talk to and amplify Silver Apples when he came to us on his last UK tour. The set up was a wooden altar with probably 8 different synths (albeit they weren't anything like I'd ever seen), an oscilloscope and a microphone. I asked Simeon what his tech specs were and he just replied "stereo please". We later talked about guitar effects and the change in technology etc... He was a real nice guy. I knew they were pioneers in the field but until I watched this I'm gutted I didn't chat to him more. Love your channel man 👍

    • @GuildfordGhost
      @GuildfordGhost 3 года назад +1

      I saw Simeon play about ten years ago. I was right down the front. The girl next to me had some stuff for him to sign and came back saying what a great guy he was. I wish I'd done the same. So glad I got to see a Silver Apples gig, though, even though it was just him by this stage.

  • @tacob69
    @tacob69 2 года назад +15

    I went to the record store to buy a Judas Priest record and for some reason bought Gary Numan's record that just came out.That one record was the reason I started listening to all kind of new music.I still loved Preist and Maiden,Saxon and all that but I listened to a lot of other stuff because I gave Gary's album a chance.

    • @reyrene
      @reyrene Год назад +1

      loving judas priest and gary numan makes total sense.

    • @DregWestland
      @DregWestland Год назад

      Was it "I, Assassin?" I had basically that same experience with I, Assassin.

  • @lancecox8084
    @lancecox8084 3 года назад +35

    Glad to see Ultravox w/John Foxx get the credit they deserve, they were great live to! Gary Numan widely credit's Ultravox to him going the Synth route also Ultravox member Billy Currie joined Gary Numan to perform "Are Friends Electric" and other early songs.

    • @kacaubalau2531
      @kacaubalau2531 3 года назад +4

      I love John Fox-era Ultravox.

    • @pauljarvis1944
      @pauljarvis1944 3 года назад +4

      I totally agree ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @ericlindsey3069
      @ericlindsey3069 3 года назад +3

      @@kacaubalau2531 Yes! At the time my record player went from Roxy Music to Ultravox, Eno, Kraftwerk, Cluster et.al. one after the other.

    • @j.dmetalhead7517
      @j.dmetalhead7517 3 года назад

      Billy was also on the Touring principle" line up as well. Before Ultravox reformed with Ure as lead singer.

  • @AnthonyMonaghan
    @AnthonyMonaghan 3 года назад +51

    "Telstar" by The Tornadoes in my eyes and ears is the first "synth pop" song, even though there were no synths involved. It was a song at the heart of the ethos of synth pop in so much as it looked to the future and that it was influenced by technology such as satellites and the birth of the space race. The modern sound, like nothing else in 1962 was also very synth pop for the time, stretching the sonic boundaries of music.

    • @petertrudelljr
      @petertrudelljr 2 года назад +2

      And Vangelis didn't get a mention at all!

    • @LucyOLastic
      @LucyOLastic 2 года назад +1

      There was a synth, a monophonic valve powered keyboard called a Clavioline. the player could emulate a variety of natural instruments, using a filter which was controlled by a bank of switches which varied the tone, a couple of envelope shapes for fast or slow attack, vibrato and four sub oscillator settings. Volume was controlled by a lever operated by the players' knee. Its more extreme settings could sound quite otherworldly or growly and gritty. Its sounds would feature in many sci-fi and mystery movie soundtracks of the 50s-60s. a lot of contemporary bands seeking old retro sounds would seek them out. Very lucky to find them in good condition. I once found its cousin the Jennings Univox on a market stall, totally mystified by it. What was it? A weird looking thing. a keyboard which packed into a case which contained its amplifier and speaker. Portable but very heavy to carry! It looked like it would give you an electric shock the moment you tried to play it. Some of the wooden keys had lifted off. Would it even make a sound? by the time I'd done my research it was sold.

    • @Bella-fz9fy
      @Bella-fz9fy 10 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@petertrudelljrThey mentioned Vangelis.

  • @murdockscott
    @murdockscott 2 года назад +8

    Thank you for mentioning Japan, I feel they don’t get enough attention. Although in the last decade of so I have noticed more people talking about them. Being older I either recall some of this when it was happening, or at least learned about it shortly after the fact. I was turned on to Tomita by my father who brought Pictures At An Exhibition home from the radio station for me. It was not something he could play on the air back in those days (he worked at a rock and gold station), but he figured I would like it. Because I didn’t have much access to much experimental or underground music until the early 80’s, this serves as a very useful timeline. Filling in some of the information I am still missing after all these years. I’m not sure I have ever seen such a complete history of synth based music and I am grateful.

  • @enigmazach
    @enigmazach 3 года назад +8

    Excellent job with this!
    But since you asked, I would have mentioned these (even if only briefly):
    Yellow Magic Orchestra
    Cerrone
    Yello
    Art of Noise
    Sparks
    Klaus Schulze
    Cluster
    Popol Vuh
    Manuel Gottsching / Ashra
    Front 242
    Patrick Cowley / Sylvester
    Telex
    Space / Didier Marouani
    Raymond Scott
    Beaver and Krause
    Bruce Haack

  • @depeszTOja
    @depeszTOja 3 года назад +63

    Episode I've been waiting entire my life.
    You mentioned Isao Tomita. YMO would be worth mentioning too.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 3 года назад +3

      Isao Tomita is often overlooked. It’s fantastic that he wasn’t omitted.

  • @terminallyinquisitive1731
    @terminallyinquisitive1731 2 года назад +23

    I remember being blown away by the album Replicas as a teen. My mate had a record player in the caravan in his parents garden and we just played it over and over. It was like nothing else we had heard. We both wanted to be Numan.

  • @hadara69
    @hadara69 3 года назад +20

    So pleasantly surprised to hear how much the “Doctor Who” theme influenced these genres! Tom Baker was my dr. and that opening still gives me the same chills I got after LITERALLY running home from the bus stop to catch it in syndication here in the U.S.
    Great mini-doc with tons of fascinating info! Keep ‘em coming.

  • @tonyhill2318
    @tonyhill2318 3 года назад +165

    No mention of Devo seems like a major omission... Whip-It blew my 8 year old mind.

    • @ericlindsey3069
      @ericlindsey3069 3 года назад +3

      Possibly your 12-13 year old mind too! ;)

    • @zapkvr
      @zapkvr 3 года назад

      Devon?

    • @lucyshi562
      @lucyshi562 3 года назад +3

      A bit after tubeway army...

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars 3 года назад +7

      @@zapkvr devo, they were an American new wave band.

    • @SH_DIS_LN
      @SH_DIS_LN 3 года назад +7

      Trust me they did much more than whip it and that's their influence I think

  • @garyhaber333
    @garyhaber333 2 месяца назад +1

    Gary Numan was my mentor.
    I was a sophomore in JrHS and a GenX kid growing up listening to 80s new wave.
    I saved up to buy a Moog in 79 and taught myself to play keyboard because of Gary.
    I own several synthesizers now and just love playing.❤❤❤❤❤

  • @unsuccessfullyjari
    @unsuccessfullyjari 3 года назад +35

    This is my absolute favorite video of yours so far. Synth runs through my veins, and especially the sounds from Eno, Fripp, Cluster, Gary Numan, Jarre, Popul Vuh, Harmonia, and many many many more. The realization for this love came about ten years ago, and I've never been more happy, especially with the online platforms such as Spotify and such. It's so unlimited, as much as synth music is to me.

  • @NormasWitnesses
    @NormasWitnesses 3 года назад +75

    I fucking love this song, and the music that came before it. “Down in the Park” and “M.E.” are other favorite songs.

    • @pretzelcoatl-2102
      @pretzelcoatl-2102 3 года назад +17

      Replicas is an amazing album in general

    • @depeszTOja
      @depeszTOja 3 года назад +13

      Down in the park is epic

    • @rozzgrey801
      @rozzgrey801 3 года назад +1

      @@depeszTOja Listen to Ultravox's album Systems of Romance which Numan cites as a big influence in his sound.

    • @mike04574
      @mike04574 3 года назад

      i couldn't take it back in the day

    • @brentb5303
      @brentb5303 3 года назад +7

      M.E. is dark as f. Amazing track. I like that each verse introduces a different instrument solo.

  • @porrohmann
    @porrohmann 2 года назад +7

    Son of My Father, the 1972 single by Chicory Tip that was written by Giorgio Moroder, was one of the first UK number one singles to very prominently feature a Moog synthesizer. The song was so influential that it is still the basis for countless football chants to this day.

  • @MVBriscoVolante
    @MVBriscoVolante 3 года назад +47

    Getting real close to discussing Throbbing Gristle/Whitehouse/SPK/DAF and I’m excited.

    • @ieatkids03
      @ieatkids03 3 года назад +2

      Hell yeah! Industrial doesn't get enough love I feel

    • @LukeBunyip
      @LukeBunyip 3 года назад

      SPK... now that would be interesting. And nice nod to DAF. Ta, forgotten about them.

    • @CollapseReport
      @CollapseReport 3 года назад

      And more about Cabs ;)

    • @CollapseReport
      @CollapseReport 3 года назад

      @@ieatkids03 exactly they are mostly silent about it .

    • @netizenrealness
      @netizenrealness 3 года назад

      a throbbing gristle episode would be...interesting 😅

  • @flippinchoons
    @flippinchoons 3 года назад +11

    my friend went too uni at Leed's, i visited several times.. his course tutor was John Fox, from ultravox. i eventually got my copy of "man who died everyday" signed by Mr fox.. a treasure kept too this day.

  • @ymmv9991
    @ymmv9991 9 месяцев назад +2

    Here's an early synthpop suggestion that's completely forgotten these days: Sailor - A Glass of Champagne.
    Recorded in 1975 it featured synthpop staples like a driving 4 on the floor synth bass with a basic drum track and Moog brass, but accompanied with lush vocals and thumping pianos.

  • @AntwhaleNearfar
    @AntwhaleNearfar 3 года назад +27

    The Moog bass and classical/gospel influenced galactic abstractness of P-Funk’s synthesizer genius Bernie Worrell was and still is a huge influence on electronic pop music.

    • @poindextertunes
      @poindextertunes 2 года назад

      Bernie was the fkn man 💯

    • @renalove2537
      @renalove2537 2 года назад +3

      Kind of irritating that they didn't mention Bernie

    • @AncestralCapital
      @AncestralCapital 7 месяцев назад

      And Stevie Wonder and TONTO

  • @mideon13
    @mideon13 3 года назад +20

    Let us not forget about Cabaret Voltaire [mentioned but not explored], Heaven 17 [mentioned, not explored], The Pop Group, Clock DVA, Bill Nelson, Fiat Lux, etc., etc. I could go on but to what end, as there are so many highly influential "synth pop" bands, back in the day. Damn fine documentary, that. More please.

    • @BennyBrilleman
      @BennyBrilleman 3 года назад +3

      Also Siouxsie's "Kaleidoscope" album. "Happy House" & "Red Light" were heavily influential in electronic music across the board, to this day. Can't forget about all the lame Siouxsie fans who were whining about The Weeknd's Super Bowl performance because he "ripped off" Siouxsie, even though it showed how ignorant they were to just now recognize the sample when The Weeknd's song, "House of Balloons/Glass Table Girls" was made around 5 years ago, lol.

    • @mossadon
      @mossadon 3 года назад +2

      Extra points for mentioning Bill Nelson.
      He's a guitar god to some but his contribution to synth pop is more often than not totally overlooked. Not only his own forays into it but the fact that he brought Flock of Seagulls to the worlds attention.

  • @brucebanner5372
    @brucebanner5372 2 года назад +9

    OMD’s “Organisation” and Depeche Mode’s “Speak and Spell” were my favorite Synth Pop Albums. Same with Eurythmics 2nd and 3rd albums. Those albums had Amazing Various keyboard chemistry

  • @andyscott5277
    @andyscott5277 3 года назад +36

    Great doc, I learned a lot. The only artist I think you may have overlooked is Sparks, particularly teaming up with Giorgio Moroder for No. 1 Song In Heaven and other albums. Highly influential on synth pop.

    • @artigraphmultimedia1489
      @artigraphmultimedia1489 2 года назад +1

      I was thinking same. Great vid though, 👍

    • @M.EngelhART
      @M.EngelhART 2 года назад

      "For anyone of our generation involved in electronic music, Kraftwerk were the godfathers." (Martin Gore, "Depeche Mode")

  • @danpreston564
    @danpreston564 3 года назад +8

    I can’t believe you didn’t mention every single band or artist that ever used a synth before 1979 in this video. Half arsed.

  • @talkingheadzzz2449
    @talkingheadzzz2449 3 месяца назад +1

    I am so fortunate I was there, from the very start. They determined not only the essence of my music preferences, but the way I view and envision the world. They ALL changed my life, especially Brian Eno, and determined much of who I am today.

  • @Bat_Boy
    @Bat_Boy 3 года назад +14

    ‘Replicas’ was the a-bomb explosion in my mind. It’s the bridge, a perfect melding of rock and electronic music, that his later albums would lack. Like, Radiohead’s ‘OK Computer’...a perfect balance. And then, never to be seen again.

  • @anthemrecords6424
    @anthemrecords6424 3 года назад +13

    The biggest shocker for me was discovering the Hardcore Devo 1 and 2 Comps of their material from 1974-77, released in the early 2000's. The material on these is definitely formative of all aspects of synth pop and many other odd electronic variants.

    • @salo7227
      @salo7227 3 года назад +4

      Early Devo stuff is incredible.

    • @suzie4211
      @suzie4211 2 года назад

      Devo has probably been categorised more punk than synth.

  • @FiGNewtonWilliamsJr
    @FiGNewtonWilliamsJr 2 года назад +7

    For me, it was Vangelis and his work on various soundtracks. A friend introduced me to his work in high school, and I would just listen to (in particular) the Blade Runner and Chariots of Fire scores and imagine other worlds in time and space. Still an influence on music I write today. Also, in the category of those influenced by this music, how about today's synthwave genre and all of its subgenres! Your missing out on some great stuff if you haven't heard bands like The Midnight, Gunship, FM-84, LeBrock, Kalax, Micheal Oakley, September 87, and so many more!

  • @joycegeertsma7115
    @joycegeertsma7115 3 года назад +22

    I never went from never having heard of- to having tremendous respect so fast as with Delia Derbyshire. Also, love Brian Eno, Ultravox, John Foxx, Gary Numan. Thanks for this!

  • @oli_yah
    @oli_yah 3 года назад +123

    An in depth Wendy Carlos ep would be lovely ☺️

  • @andrewjackson7758
    @andrewjackson7758 2 года назад +11

    There was a top 10 pop song with a fully electric drum machine, in 1971, called "It's a Family Affair" by Sly and the Family Stone.

  • @branwellbronte8663
    @branwellbronte8663 3 года назад +20

    The greatest single omission was any reference to the groundbreaking work of DEVO (they deserve to be the subject of a future feature) in all other respects excellent work & very enjoyable.

    • @sirhenry8158
      @sirhenry8158 3 года назад

      And Jean-Jacques Perrey is not even mentioned in the groundbreaking 60s, but I guess this is an ancient documentary, before internet research.

  • @TheSteveSteele
    @TheSteveSteele 3 года назад +34

    Gary Numan is so underrated. The Pleasure Principal is a masterpiece.

  • @LynBugLover
    @LynBugLover 10 месяцев назад +2

    And I think it was The Human League’s Travelogue that really got me into synth music when I was about ten years old. Watching the ‘old’ Human League, featuring Martyn Ware and Ian Craig Marsh (later of Heaven 17) was magical. And their version of Mick Ronson’s ‘Only After Dark’ is still one of my favourite songs.

  • @NeilNTR
    @NeilNTR 3 года назад +48

    For Synth-pop, it was Kraftwerk (for me) that first made a pure synth band and music. The others before them were merely rock/jazz bands with a synth.

    • @annabarr1304
      @annabarr1304 3 года назад +2

      For me Kraftwerk influence split, we had one side going more pop and the other going more electronic like in Detroit.

    • @windnchgo
      @windnchgo 3 года назад

      Kraftwerk were the first synth band I heard. It was later I discovered other German bands that were also noodling around in the same vein - Neu!, Can, Tangerine Dream....

    • @AE2-scc
      @AE2-scc 3 года назад +2

      @@windnchgo Fun fact, Neu! Actually was a band that branched off of Kraftwerk back in the early 70s.

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 3 года назад

      There were bunch of other Continental pure synth bands which were TIMES better. Kraftwerk had just clever marketing.

    • @deanosaur808
      @deanosaur808 10 месяцев назад

      @marguskiis7711 clever marketing?? You got to be kidding 🙄
      Kraftwerk hardly sold anything despite their influence, and most young people still don't know who they are. They are almost non existent on Spotify with only 2 million monthly listeners. Yeah clever marketing lol
      The fact is, you don't know what you are talking about 😉

  • @shatmerat4119
    @shatmerat4119 3 года назад +81

    The Golden Age of Wireless - Thomas Dolby, the perfect Synthpop album.

    • @stephenmanley5190
      @stephenmanley5190 3 года назад +4

      Yes! I love that one too!

    • @guanchankey
      @guanchankey 3 года назад +2

      Por ese album Dolby vive con los techno dioses en el monte Olimpo.

    • @windnchgo
      @windnchgo 3 года назад +2

      Synth pop blinded me with science!

    • @jlarrybrewer1149
      @jlarrybrewer1149 3 года назад +2

      Man that was a great album! So many excellent cuts besides “She Blinded me with Science”. Another little known Dolby album that I love is the soundtrack to “The Gateway to the Mind’s Eye” which was an all CGI video released by Radio Shack

    • @stevebriggs6469
      @stevebriggs6469 3 года назад +2

      Not only was that a great album (as was the follow up) he was on everything in the 80's. Probably the first UK synth "popper" to make it big in the US. Fairly prolific producer and contributor to a lot of stuff back then. Then what did he do? Invented bloody ring tones.

  • @nixonkutz3018
    @nixonkutz3018 Год назад +2

    Despite being immersed in synthesizers since Switched On Bach, I still learned a ton from this video. Didn't know both Brians were in Roxy Music for a spell. And never thought about the connection between "Are Friends Electric?" and Neil Young's "Sample and Hold." Great stuff as always, and greatly increased my list of "need to revisit" songs & acts. Thanks!!!

  • @megmcguigan3857
    @megmcguigan3857 3 года назад +12

    I was a teen in the 80's and my first live concert was OMD in 1986. I feel really fortunate to have been a teen back then in terms of all of the innovative music that came out during that decade.

  • @MisterBrain
    @MisterBrain 3 года назад +17

    You could make an argument that the first synthesizer was the Hammond Novachord from 1939. As the most well-known use of the Novachord was on We'll Meet Again, this makes Vera Lynn the first star of synthpop :-)

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 3 года назад

      Except they played it like an organ. Check out some RUclips videos to here what a Novachord can do when played like a synth.

  • @tadpole1492
    @tadpole1492 2 года назад +15

    You left out the incredibly underrated New Musik from south London, who with their genius front man, Tony Mansfield, created 3 amazing albums from 1979-1982. Their biggest hit was 'Living by Numbers'. Other tracks on their 1st album 'From A to B' were hits or minor hits like 'This World of Water', 'Straight Lines' & the awesome 'Sanctuary'. They had the ability to create 'warm accessible pop' or cold isolation throughout their short career. Their 1981 album 'Anywhere' is my favourite album ever, with 12 quite simply stunning tracks, many driven with their iconic pulsating bass drum & Tony's 12 string guitars. their 3rd & final album 'Warp' is probably the album that will inspire future artists for it's sheer creativity. Check out 'A Train on Twisted Tracks & the amazingly funky 'The Planet Doesn't Mind' for examples. 'Anywhere's' 'Luxury' & 'While You Wait' singles are other tracks of note. Really enjoyed this documentary, thank you.

  • @RebirthRadio2023
    @RebirthRadio2023 3 года назад +19

    A vote for Sparks and their amazing "Number One In Heaven" album. Paves the way for hard dance and trance, even drum&bass with its layered drums, hi-octane rhythms and bubbling synths. In particular the tracks "Tryouts For The Human Race", which is more 00s than 70s, and "La Dolce Vita" which is essentially proto-trance! Following up "Number One In Heaven", the Mael brothers produced an all-electronic album for Noel called "Is There More To Life Than Dancing", which predates stuff like OMD and Depeche Mode by a year or two with its bleepy synths and heavy synthetic beats. Indeed I would say this album, more than any other I've ever heard from the 70s, sets the blueprint for the upcoming 80s electronic drum sound.

  • @evapalma9899
    @evapalma9899 3 года назад +15

    It's my synthpop week. Listening to an Electronic 80s compilation on RUclips, Trash Theory has a synthpop origin video and Todd In the Shadows has a Human League Trainwreckords. Edit: this video needs a mention of Ryuchi Sakamoto and the funk pioneers like Bernie Worrell and Ohio Players. But I think he was trying to focus on British artists

  • @Peejay1966
    @Peejay1966 2 года назад +16

    I'd say Pete Townshend deserves a wee mention, too, for Won't Get Fooled Again and Baba O'Riley; most definitely synth-led tunes from 1971.

  • @probablepaul1357
    @probablepaul1357 3 года назад +8

    The Captain, from Captain and Tennille. A good friend of my father's, converted a large synthesizer-keyboard into a portable unit for the road tours. This man, at the time was working for Amana, developing the "Radar Range". Known commonly as the Microwave Oven.

  • @rgwebb5165
    @rgwebb5165 3 года назад +24

    Glad "I Feel Love" gets the credit deserved. Still feels ahead of its time.

  • @bobz1736
    @bobz1736 2 года назад +12

    What an outstanding production.
    You've made me realise that the original Doctor Who theme started my love for electronic sounds as a small boy in the 60s...
    What a nostalgia trip this was 👍

  • @robertbrown569
    @robertbrown569 3 года назад +7

    I guess the major missing item is Sparks, who - because of their 1979 synth-pop album, No 1 in Heaven, are usually acknowledged as inspiring the synth-pop duo format of the 'eighties.

  • @Milkthief
    @Milkthief 3 года назад +63

    I'm a bit surprised you didn't mention YMO at the end there, Rydeen is an eternal classic. I hope you will do a video on Killing Joke or Godflesh at some point in the future ;D

    • @depeszTOja
      @depeszTOja 3 года назад +3

      Same here.

    • @actionman3000
      @actionman3000 3 года назад

      Chicory Tip "Son of my Father " 1971

    • @johnnguyen7858
      @johnnguyen7858 3 года назад

      For real

    • @B1SCOOP
      @B1SCOOP 3 года назад

      @@actionman3000 that song was originally composed by Giorgio Moroder.

    • @moonshadoww99
      @moonshadoww99 3 года назад +1

      This video is quite white centered, missing a lot. At least it didn't stick just to english speaking artists as it shows Kraftwerk :(

  • @johncase2408
    @johncase2408 2 года назад +6

    I imagine seeing what Gary Wright was doing in the 70's with keyboards, using them as a lead instrument led to some inspiration. With some prog groups, the synth was almost on equal ground as the guitar. Certainly with Elp and Gary Wright the synth was at the forefront.

  • @rozzgrey801
    @rozzgrey801 3 года назад +7

    You've brilliantly comprehensively covered nearly all the big synth pioneers we were listening to in the 70's, an excellent piece of work. You missed pioneer Harold Bode, the inventor of the voltage-controlled modular synth that Moog was the first to make commercially available, and 2 great groups were David Vorhaus and Delia Derbyshire's 'White Noise' and their unworldly Electric Storm album and Seventh Wave's album 'Psi-Fi' an early synth-pop band.

  • @gregmg999
    @gregmg999 2 года назад +16

    As always, a brilliant recollection and overview of synth-pop. I love the pace of these documentaries.
    As mentioned elsewhere, some influential bands are missing including The Moody Blues, Sparks, and Devo … but, to me, a full-circle golden opportunity was missed in the Clockwork Orange record shop scene … the girls discuss the (fictional) chart hits, including The Heaven 17 … the inspiration of course for you know who! 😊

  • @angrytedtalks
    @angrytedtalks 7 месяцев назад

    Fascinating. Born in 1964, I am familiar with virtually all of this, but didn't ever think about how the artists inspired each other.
    Technology has moved on of course, but the those electronic sounds are part of the vocabulary of modern compositions. Old school keyboard, bass, drums and guitars are just as commonly mixing desks, samples and sequencing incorporating all kinds of sounds.

  • @marshallemmet1366
    @marshallemmet1366 3 года назад +20

    Thank god that someone finally included "The USA" as a founding band of electronic! I have seen multiple videos which skip out on Suicide, so I am so glad you mentioned them aswell.

  • @geraldfriend256
    @geraldfriend256 3 года назад +8

    Minor but important detail..Good Vibrations and the theme to Star Trek are two of the most iconic 'theremin' tracks ever..but the instrument is actually an Ondes Martenot..a close relative of the theremin.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 3 года назад +2

      It was actually a keyboard version of the theremin.

    • @skuzzbunny
      @skuzzbunny 3 года назад

      ya, not sure about Star Trek, but i was under the definite impression Good Vibrations was just a fairly simple keyboard that could reproduce the simpler occilating effect typical of a theremin, but using straightforward keyboard controls, so you didn't have to track down an actual, trained theremin player...??

    • @geraldfriend256
      @geraldfriend256 3 года назад

      @@skuzzbunny more or less yep.It was a continous gliding pitch ribbon next to a keyboard that showed exactly where you were..like lines on a fretless bass.

  • @shayneoneill1506
    @shayneoneill1506 5 месяцев назад +1

    One other important link between the Beach Boy's theramin in good vibrations and synth pop, is that Bob Moog got his start making Theramins (and in fact *the* theramin you want, if you want one, is the Moog Theramin)

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 3 года назад +21

    Hiroshima Mon Amour by the John Foxx Era Ultravox was a game changer. The drum machine is awesome & drummer Warren Caan lays down a mean 🎷on it. This was the music I had Waited for all my life ! The young Producer was Steve Lillywhite.

  • @AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents
    @AGrrrlsTwoSoundCents 3 года назад +6

    Don’t forget about Daphne Oram as well! She co-founded the BBC Radiophonic Workshop and was one of the first people to produce electronic sound in the U.K. Derbyshire wouldn’t have been able to do what she did with the ‘Dr. Who’ theme without her

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 3 года назад +1

      Was about to ask( on your channel) if you follow tt and, guess this is confirmation enough

  • @stephMomo-hr2xr
    @stephMomo-hr2xr 3 месяца назад +1

    As early as 1951, French public radio had a fundamental research group on electronic sound techniques: Pierre Scheaffler defined the concepts and foundations of electronic music and developed the world's first samplers (on magnetic tape). Jean Michel Jarre was also a member of this public "musique concrète" research group.
    The Beatles used his method of tape manipulation on the track Revolution N°9.
    In 1949, Pierre Scheaffler published an album with another electro pioneer, Pierre Henri. In 1958, he set up the 1st electronic music studio in France. In 1960, he released an album based entirely on synthesizers.
    Then, in 1967, he wrote the music for a ballet for Maurice Béjart entitled "Psychérock".
    This album is a cult favorite, remixed in 1997 by some of the biggest names of 90'(Fatboyslim, William Orbit,...)!
    The Ondioline synthesizer, invented in France in 1939, introduced another French pioneer of electronic music, Jean Jacques Perrey, to the United States.
    As early as March 1960, he was composing music for American commercials with this instrument. He worked closely with Gershin Kingsley.
    Disney's "Maint Street Electrical Parade" was composed by Jean Jacques Perrey, and it's still going strong!
    In 1968, he released the album "The amazing electronic pop sound" and in 1970 "Moog Indigo", part of whose music was used in the credits of a cartoon famous throughout South America and Canada.

  • @daveglynn748
    @daveglynn748 2 года назад +7

    The first UK Number One Chart hit in January 1972 that was made using a Moog Synth was Son Of My Father by Chicory Tip from the original composition by Giorgio Moroder.

  • @kevinfischer372
    @kevinfischer372 2 года назад +3

    You've missed out Cluster/Harmonia - Eno worked with them (and said they were the greatest band in the world at the time), Bowie was listening to them, and their influence on Low and Heroes was immense. Vital

  • @captainsensiblejr.
    @captainsensiblejr. 10 месяцев назад +2

    The alt- puppet TV series "Space Patrol" also featured and electronics theme, and sub-themes for specific action sequences such as the activation of the robot automatic pilot, the "space city" pan and launch sequences, as Thunderbirds did but with a studio orchestra.