I belonged to a church that was in are quite expensive inner city suburb One way that some people were able to leave without any ill will was to buy a house in a more affordable suburb They were able to get away from the controlling leaders but still stay in contact with their friends
I was told by my pastor that i have a poverty spirit... I dont even know what that means but i know when he said that it really messed with my head and thats around the time i started to give up and got caught back up in drugs again im the months following.. it wasnt just that, it was a bunch of other things too, im just now learning how to overcome all this after ignoring everything and running for7 years not getting anywhwere and now im really having to fight to figure all this out
It's good to hear that you are willing to fight to figure things out. That's the opposite of a poverty spirit. A poverty spirit is when you assume that bad things will happen and don't even try to change your life. So keep fighting. It sounds like your pastor's words made you feel condemned. I hope that wasn't his intent. Find people who will speak life into you. Jesus came to free you to live a good life. It's out there. Go for it.
This is so true! I served overseas and yes my circle of friends were there so I didn’t want to lose that especially serving overseas as a single female. I set boundaries and began to slowly step away.
Remy, we can’t thank you enough! My husband and I just left our church movement after 40+ years, 22 in our current church. Your videos and book broken trust are a gift from God in our healing. And I wish we lived closer to your church. We are in Madison,wi. God is confirming we made the right decision every single day, in big and small ways. Thank you!
If I could tell you the journey I have been on and how God has revealed the idolatry in my own heart over my now deceased pastor and the church she lead. God has brought me into a very personal, intimate and one on one relationship with Him over the past 3+ years. I have separated myself from family and friends who are clearly in the same boat that I was in (the same church) and it has been a test of my trust in God but it served to point out the idolatry in my heart. Still God is leading me everyday into a genuine trust in Him, helping me let go of creatures and my delusional security that I thought I had with God, but was in a false reality inside the bubble that I lived in with others who did the same. Thank you, we need this type of content,
The thought of leaving our church was all of the reasons in this video. We finally left 3 years ago. And it was the best decision we could have made. Over the past 3 years, God has been restoring our faith, correcting our theology, and healing family relationships. We still have a ways to go, but know beyond a doubt that, if we were still in that church, we wouldn't have seen what was happening to us, and wouldn't be experiencing the restoration that we are now.
It’s worst when your aunt and uncle are the leaders. My eyes were blind to so many things and felt obligated to stay as a musician from just the fact that their my family.
“ the sin of pride” this was used for years to control. Also in catholic religion the vows to become a Nun, priest etc are poverty chastity and obedience. The terrible abuses of children in orphanages were not called out.
Thank you for this video. Still struggling after leaving for good 3 days ago. There were lots of yellow flags and only a couple of red ones. I thought that i was wrong in thinking that something was wrong for years but I couldn’t pin it. Had a falling out that was extremely condescending. Godbless everyone here ☀️
Valerie, I'm happy to hear that you found the courage to leave. Life is short. You don't want to be a part of a sick system unless you have the power to change it from the top down. I hope you find healing and a healthy community to join.
I’m with ya. I just left last Tuesday(my last service. Was going to that church for 2 1/2 years). It was that pastor and the self-righteous attitudes and fear mongering that caused me to walk away from the church. Never in my 29 years, since I been in church, have I heard “if you don’t do this or that, you’re going to hell” preached so much. For 2 1/2 years, that’s all I ever heard. I have to start all over with my relationship with God. It has been destroyed by hearing how I’m still NOT clean enough or good enough or haven’t performed enough or done enough for God. It’s worn me down. Gotta start fresh. Thank God moving out of state helps.
@@camillegrazier7188 yeah, the constant feeling of shame as if you’re never good enough is not love. I agree that we are never good enough to reach God’s goodness but that’s why we have Jesus. It is finished with Jesus. No more shame of past sin. You are enough and that’s why Jesus went through the pain and suffering because you’re worth it. Jesus spoke much differently to his disciples and unbelievers, religious leaders and sinners. Everyone’s heart was treated differently….Faith is where we stand, not on good works. Works are a result of what we believe. Any church can start in faith but if the focus shifts to works then you’re walking in the flesh, not the spirit. My situation was different, faith was pushed so hard that if you weren’t healed then it was because you lacked faith. It just doesn’t work that way in every situation. Jesus is the Author of our faith and it should be built up by other believers, not criticized. I regret never standing my ground on this in the church but I didn’t want to be causing waves and desperately wanted to keep peace in my ‘spiritual family’. Im sorry you suffered that way and hope you feel better soon. ♥️🙏
Jackie, that's true. God may want you to stay. I was addressing the people who need to leave but find it difficult. I think more people feel the NEED to stay rather than are CALLED to stay by God. There needs to be a good reason to subject yourself/family/friends to abuse. God might call people to stay to confront the abuse and/or help others find freedom from it. They would need to be very strong in their faith and character. But I caution people to not assume that's the right decision. Count the cost. You might not realize the cost until it's too late. And your staying might sanction the abuse that exists. Thanks for your comment.
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Fear, guilt, fear, fear, and guilt...
They are powerful influencers. Thanks for sharing.
I belonged to a church that was in are quite expensive inner city suburb
One way that some people were able to leave without any ill will was to buy a house in a more affordable suburb
They were able to get away from the controlling leaders but still stay in contact with their friends
Thanks for commenting. I'm glad some people could keep their community in spite of leaving the church.
I was told by my pastor that i have a poverty spirit... I dont even know what that means but i know when he said that it really messed with my head and thats around the time i started to give up and got caught back up in drugs again im the months following.. it wasnt just that, it was a bunch of other things too, im just now learning how to overcome all this after ignoring everything and running for7 years not getting anywhwere and now im really having to fight to figure all this out
It's good to hear that you are willing to fight to figure things out. That's the opposite of a poverty spirit. A poverty spirit is when you assume that bad things will happen and don't even try to change your life. So keep fighting. It sounds like your pastor's words made you feel condemned. I hope that wasn't his intent. Find people who will speak life into you. Jesus came to free you to live a good life. It's out there. Go for it.
This is so true! I served overseas and yes my circle of friends were there so I didn’t want to lose that especially serving overseas as a single female. I set boundaries and began to slowly step away.
Glad to hear it. Yes, setting boundaries is what many fail to do. I should make a video on that. Thanks for commenting.
Remy, we can’t thank you enough! My husband and I just left our church movement after 40+ years, 22 in our current church. Your videos and book broken trust are a gift from God in our healing. And I wish we lived closer to your church. We are in Madison,wi. God is confirming we made the right decision every single day, in big and small ways. Thank you!
Cindy, that's great to hear. I'm so glad you made the move! Thanks for letting me know. Enjoy your freedom!
Thank you! Thank you! Very much!
You are welcome. I hope it helped. Be sure to watch the video that adds a tenth reason that people fail to leave.
If I could tell you the journey I have been on and how God has revealed the idolatry in my own heart over my now deceased pastor and the church she lead. God has brought me into a very personal, intimate and one on one relationship with Him over the past 3+ years. I have separated myself from family and friends who are clearly in the same boat that I was in (the same church) and it has been a test of my trust in God but it served to point out the idolatry in my heart. Still God is leading me everyday into a genuine trust in Him, helping me let go of creatures and my delusional security that I thought I had with God, but was in a false reality inside the bubble that I lived in with others who did the same. Thank you, we need this type of content,
Thanks for sharing a little bit of your story, Julie. I'm glad you are in a good place now!
The thought of leaving our church was all of the reasons in this video. We finally left 3 years ago. And it was the best decision we could have made. Over the past 3 years, God has been restoring our faith, correcting our theology, and healing family relationships. We still have a ways to go, but know beyond a doubt that, if we were still in that church, we wouldn't have seen what was happening to us, and wouldn't be experiencing the restoration that we are now.
Thanks for saying this. It brings hope to those who are considering leaving. I'm glad you left and you are in recovery.
It’s worst when your aunt and uncle are the leaders. My eyes were blind to so many things and felt obligated to stay as a musician from just the fact that their my family.
Jeffrey, yes... family makes it very hard to leave. I hope you were able to break away.
A very accurate list
Good to hear. Thanks.
“ the sin of pride” this was used for years to control. Also in catholic religion the vows to become a
Nun, priest etc are poverty chastity and obedience. The terrible abuses of children in orphanages were not called out.
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment.
Thank you for this video. Still struggling after leaving for good 3 days ago. There were lots of yellow flags and only a couple of red ones. I thought that i was wrong in thinking that something was wrong for years but I couldn’t pin it. Had a falling out that was extremely condescending. Godbless everyone here ☀️
Valerie, I'm happy to hear that you found the courage to leave. Life is short. You don't want to be a part of a sick system unless you have the power to change it from the top down. I hope you find healing and a healthy community to join.
I’m with ya. I just left last Tuesday(my last service. Was going to that church for 2 1/2 years). It was that pastor and the self-righteous attitudes and fear mongering that caused me to walk away from the church. Never in my 29 years, since I been in church, have I heard “if you don’t do this or that, you’re going to hell” preached so much. For 2 1/2 years, that’s all I ever heard. I have to start all over with my relationship with God. It has been destroyed by hearing how I’m still NOT clean enough or good enough or haven’t performed enough or done enough for God. It’s worn me down. Gotta start fresh. Thank God moving out of state helps.
@@FRemyD I hope so too, thank you.
@@camillegrazier7188 yeah, the constant feeling of shame as if you’re never good enough is not love. I agree that we are never good enough to reach God’s goodness but that’s why we have Jesus. It is finished with Jesus. No more shame of past sin. You are enough and that’s why Jesus went through the pain and suffering because you’re worth it. Jesus spoke much differently to his disciples and unbelievers, religious leaders and sinners. Everyone’s heart was treated differently….Faith is where we stand, not on good works. Works are a result of what we believe. Any church can start in faith but if the focus shifts to works then you’re walking in the flesh, not the spirit.
My situation was different, faith was pushed so hard that if you weren’t healed then it was because you lacked faith. It just doesn’t work that way in every situation. Jesus is the Author of our faith and it should be built up by other believers, not criticized. I regret never standing my ground on this in the church but I didn’t want to be causing waves and desperately wanted to keep peace in my ‘spiritual family’.
Im sorry you suffered that way and hope you feel better soon. ♥️🙏
And number 10 - they are trying to show other members that what is happening is wrong!!!
Ah, thanks. I'd love to hear what other people think number 10 should be! Thanks for sharing.
Good wisdom! Thank you
Thanks. Be sure to watch the follow up video where I list a tenth reason people fail to leave.
Thank's.
You bet. Thanks for the feedback!
what if God wants you there .?
Jackie, that's true. God may want you to stay. I was addressing the people who need to leave but find it difficult. I think more people feel the NEED to stay rather than are CALLED to stay by God. There needs to be a good reason to subject yourself/family/friends to abuse. God might call people to stay to confront the abuse and/or help others find freedom from it. They would need to be very strong in their faith and character. But I caution people to not assume that's the right decision. Count the cost. You might not realize the cost until it's too late. And your staying might sanction the abuse that exists. Thanks for your comment.
Count the cost… fighting the good fight… sadly it doesn’t always work…