Siemens Charger: Locomotive of the Future

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024

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  • @normansilver905
    @normansilver905 2 года назад +156

    I know an Amtrak engineer. He told me the new Siemen's is a real winner. He is hopeful the entire Amtrak locomotive fleet will be this well designed piece of locomotive power.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen 2 года назад +24

      Siemens is not a possesive or even a plural, it's just a German family name:
      _Ernst Werner Siemens (von Siemens from 1888; English: /ˈsiːm.ənz/ SEEM-ənz;[1] German: [ˈziːməns, -mɛns];[2] 13 December 1816 - 6 December 1892) was a German electrical engineer, inventor and industrialist. Siemens's name has been adopted as the SI unit of electrical conductance, the siemens. He founded the electrical and telecommunications conglomerate Siemens._

    • @PGHammer21A
      @PGHammer21A 2 года назад +11

      I like the Chargers, and they even make sense for dual-mode - as NJT and even MBTA prove every day.

    • @PGHammer21A
      @PGHammer21A 2 года назад +3

      And what about Metra? There - like the NEC - has both caternaries and diesel.

    • @PGHammer21A
      @PGHammer21A 2 года назад +5

      At some point, I am expecting MARC to wind up with ACS-64s of it's own because of the Brunswick and other noncaternary interchanges at DC Union Station and Baltimore Camden Yards.

    • @inerdt
      @inerdt Год назад +4

      @@KaiHenningsen the correct possessive form is Siemens', at least in German.

  • @banksrail
    @banksrail 2 года назад +166

    The Brightline Chargers don’t usually operate at the same time. It’s usually one engine pulling/pushing the consist while the other is there to give HEP. When the consist gets longer (8 cars) they will start using both engines.

    • @damnimloomin
      @damnimloomin 2 года назад +18

      I was thinking what a waste 2 engines for barley 80mph

    • @adamknott7830
      @adamknott7830 2 года назад +11

      @@damnimloomin it bothered me that he said higher speed rail service when talking about brightline. As you said its 80 mph for them and thats really slow

    • @damnimloomin
      @damnimloomin 2 года назад +11

      @@adamknott7830 they are already testing high speed service to be fair I hope they’re able to resolve the level crossing issues along US 1 so they can go the top speed! But yeah 80 is how fast people go on the highway in Florida lol not that appealing on travel time.

    • @adamknott7830
      @adamknott7830 2 года назад +1

      @@damnimloomin they dont have a high enough class of rail either if im not mistaken. They built themselves into a max speed of 80 mph which i think makes me more made than the actual speed itself

    • @brandonbloomquist3267
      @brandonbloomquist3267 2 года назад +15

      @@adamknott7830Brightline bought the extra power for their latter phases of service. It's a 79 mph limit in the metro Miami area, or Miami to Palm Beach; a speed that's pushing it for how many people and grade crossings are in play.
      From Palm Beach to Cocoa, the restored dual track of the FEC is being set up for 110 mph, and the new track from Cocoa to Orlando is set for 125 mph. Their PPTs show a 150 mph design speed for the Tampa extension.

  • @zacharylegaspi7594
    @zacharylegaspi7594 2 года назад +60

    My favorite part of the chargers is how the original platform was properly adapted and modified for use in the US resulting in having a lot of the unique features that give American railroads its own character instead of just simply being a European export with a bell slapped onto it

  • @TrainsandAdventuresTV
    @TrainsandAdventuresTV 2 года назад +135

    I hope Amtrak will give the P42’s a farewell run just like they did with the AEM-7s

    • @DC4260Productions
      @DC4260Productions 2 года назад +8

      It would be silly if they didn't.

    • @rivertownproductions
      @rivertownproductions 2 года назад +19

      I just hope some get preserved!

    • @Cal90208
      @Cal90208 2 года назад +3

      How are they supposed to do that? AEM’s ran on one like, P42s are everywhere and have already been completely replaced in some parts of the country

    • @ronal8824
      @ronal8824 2 года назад +4

      based on how long the f40ph lasted I doubt that will be anytime soon

    • @PGHammer21A
      @PGHammer21A 2 года назад

      It will depend on who and where - B@O will get at least one from AMTRAK - because the Smithsonian has no annex.

  • @farmerdave7965
    @farmerdave7965 Год назад +10

    I like the nose on the VIA chargers best. All Chargers should look like that.

  • @otherguyfrombloodandbrews7150
    @otherguyfrombloodandbrews7150 2 года назад +16

    I test all these locomotive variants at the manufacturing facility definitely the coolest feeling being the one of the first people to start the engine and drive these locomotives with the long lives they will have. It was awesome when 301 came to be the lead engine to take 313 and 314 eventually making their journey with 301,309,313 and 314. Great video I love seeing the appreciation people have for these vehicles!!

  • @KaijuForceNeo
    @KaijuForceNeo 2 года назад +26

    As a former passenger of a super liner pulled by one of these engines, it’s safe to say that the charger locomotive shows a ton of commitment to a great future for Amtrack!

  • @creaturexxii
    @creaturexxii 2 года назад +74

    Aesthetically, I like the VIA Rail SC-42 over the Amtrak ALC-42 as the VIA Rail one just looks sleeker and better looking IMO. Of course, beauty is in the eye of the beholder as most of these Siemens locomotives are good looking.

    • @gamerfan8445
      @gamerfan8445 2 года назад +6

      I have to agree with you

    • @jfp3earth357
      @jfp3earth357 2 года назад +2

      I thought via rails Chargers were classified as scv-42s

    • @gamerfan8445
      @gamerfan8445 2 года назад +2

      @@jfp3earth357 they are I think

    • @kennichdendenn
      @kennichdendenn 2 года назад +4

      Quite frankly, at least from european view, north american rail isnt exactly a story of design hits - most of the equipment looks bulky at best. And thats not just the safety regulations - I feel like its just not an important point.
      The new brightline trains look way better though!

    • @gamerfan8445
      @gamerfan8445 2 года назад

      @@kennichdendenn because it was designed by Europe.

  • @stephenmairs8366
    @stephenmairs8366 Год назад +11

    These Siemens locomotives are very pleasing to the eye, handsome and thoughtfully designed. It would good to see these on our Irish networks, both NIR and Irish Rail.
    We have some incredibly old GM locomotives still in service, they have outlived everyones expections, a great testimony to the company and their designers.

  • @mygins5820
    @mygins5820 2 года назад +43

    I definitely would be cool to see a railroad review of Metro North or Long Island rail road, Long Island being the busiest commuter rail in the country

    • @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife
      @scenicdepictionsofchicagolife 2 года назад +2

      I can't remember if he did Metra or not, but in theme with your suggestion I'd hope he does an in depth video on Metra given it's the third busiest commuter rail operator in the country. It'd be even cooler if he did Metra and South Shore Line together given that they (including Amtrak Midwest as well) serve as the primary commuter and extended commuter services for the Chicagoland metropolitan area.
      I also hope Metra gives up on it's stupid crusade to keep only EMD powered locomotices in it's fleet just because "it's used to working on them." This goes against their multiple claims to wanting to reduce harmful emissions and create a healthier environment for ridership. Given that we are set to replace all of our Nippon sharyo and bombardier Bilevel passenger cars with modern Alstom Coradia Multilevel passenger coaches, it would make a lot of sense to match them with well built, new dedicated passenger locomotives like the Siemens Charger. And yes, I'd miss the F40s, but man are they barely hanging on by a thread even with multiple rebuilds and fantastic maintenance. It's just time. Though I will admit that like most other state funded transit systems, funding is tight and margins are razor thin. So it's understandable. But frustrating.

    • @maas1208
      @maas1208 Год назад

      ​@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife The Chargers suck in Chicago's winters and The Freight Companies are being assholes

  • @pauly5418
    @pauly5418 Год назад +4

    In December 2022, the Ontario government ordered 3 Siemens Chargers along with 3 Venture trainsets. This is for their Ontario Northlander service.

  • @tatecarlson
    @tatecarlson 2 года назад +3

    When I first saw the charger locomotive I was absolutely despised the design, but overtime, this locomotive has proven to be my favorite Tier 4 locomotive

  • @AnalytiKroll
    @AnalytiKroll 2 года назад +57

    Sadly as a Metra rider we won't see these until every last EMD locomotive is used up by them.

    • @erikgustafson9319
      @erikgustafson9319 2 года назад +7

      They need emus not chargers

    • @danielchou5895
      @danielchou5895 2 года назад +3

      @@erikgustafson9319 they dont need emus

    • @mbrproductions160
      @mbrproductions160 2 года назад +2

      Sounds like a good thing

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander 2 года назад +10

      @@danielchou5895 They do. They need something like Stadler KISS or CAF/Alstom Renfe S-450

    • @danielchou5895
      @danielchou5895 2 года назад +3

      @@truedarklander No they don't...

  • @ghosttrain312
    @ghosttrain312 2 года назад +7

    A good majority of operators went with the Siemens chargers. The only operator I know that didn't go with Siemens is Metrolink here in Southern California. Metrolink(and only Metrolink) purchased few EMD F125 locomotives leaving them the odd one out.

  • @toadscoper4575
    @toadscoper4575 2 года назад +36

    What I don’t understand is why many mid-distance and commuter railroad operators are purchasing long distance locomotives when it would be far more economical and efficient to operate multiple units on high-frequency shorter routes (intercity DMUs are a norm in many parts of the world). Perhaps Siemens should consider making hybrid multiple unit sets for regional operators based on the ALC design standard.

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander 2 года назад

      I mean, its a whole different beast, considering long DMUs have several smaller engines and are usually DEMUs rather than DMUs. And Siemens only has the Desiro series in that, and its not that good compared to the chargers. Stadler, CAF, Talgo and Alstom are far better choices for DMUs/EMUs/BMUs

    • @Scottish_Transport_Explorer
      @Scottish_Transport_Explorer 2 года назад +7

      Ikr, DMU's and EMU's are far better for the task in hand, at least Caltrain understands because they're getting new EMU's

    • @smileyeagle1021
      @smileyeagle1021 2 года назад +4

      Like most things wrong with American infrastructure, it comes down bad regulations. I'm 100% in favor of good regulations that improve safety, but we have a lot of regulations that are there just because that is how we've always done it, with no flexibility granted for new and improved technology.

    • @mikeblatzheim2797
      @mikeblatzheim2797 Год назад +5

      @@truedarklander
      Agreed on the DMU front, but honestly, Siemens builds the best EMUs out there (though Stadler does come very close). Especially noteworthy are the regional Desiro HC, which is an absolute rocketship with a huge capacity and a design top speed of 200kph, as well as the Velaro high speed trains.

    • @tzarcoal1018
      @tzarcoal1018 Год назад +7

      The issue is reguilations. Trains in the US must be beefy enough to take some damage in a crash. In Europe the thinking is different...focus all regulations to avoid crahes.
      So most light-weight DMUs / EMUS are impossible to certify for the American market, at least when they run on the same route as freight traffic.
      There is actually a German DMU operaring somewhere in the US but it is classified as light rail...in Europe it would be a typical train for a regional rail that has low utilistion.

  • @SunRailMV
    @SunRailMV 2 года назад +8

    My favorite Siemens Chargers were Brightline, VIA Rail and the Amtrak long-distance trains, I can’t wait to see Brightline along with Amtrak’s ALC-42 chargers that are coming soon in Florida!

    • @Distress.
      @Distress. 2 года назад +1

      My favorite is also the bightlines and vias. They look "modern" and fast

  • @gb9727
    @gb9727 8 месяцев назад +3

    MBTA should order some, even though their motive power trains are 9 years old

  • @ericschwartz3559
    @ericschwartz3559 2 месяца назад

    I’m happy that metro north went with the sc42dm for dual-mode a variant of the siemens charger instead of a classic emd locomotive like the f125 that’s in service with metrolink.

  • @TheRuralUrbanist
    @TheRuralUrbanist 2 года назад +43

    I love the charger and this was a great overview of the many orders. Maybe I'm alone with this, but I find the battery/dual-mode versions super frustrating. Diesel + caternary makes sense for anything past NEC, but the battery really doesn't make so much sense especially if it's replacing third rail. I wish we'd just electrify more lines!

    • @kennyr3751
      @kennyr3751 2 года назад +12

      I agree the electric lines are better.

    • @Mgameing123
      @Mgameing123 2 года назад +5

      @@T_Hoog But battery trains weigh alot.

    • @aoilpe
      @aoilpe 2 года назад +11

      @@T_Hoog
      It’s just stupid of CSX and others NOT to electrify! And don’t say “the country is too big” or “They couldn’t run double-stack containers anymore “ because it’s BS. The Trans-Siberian in Russia is electrified (9288km/5771ml) and the Dedicated Freight Corridors in India are electrified corridors for double stack trains.
      European railways show also that it IS possible to run by green electricity ⚡️
      Electric locomotives are able to provide reliable services for more than 50 years, if well maintained, with less inspections needed.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад

      @@aoilpe Maintenance of OLE in remote areas is a problem, so are tunnel and bridge clearances. Electrification is better for passenger than freight; it's also prohibitively expensive for the length of rail line in the US

    • @aoilpe
      @aoilpe 2 года назад +2

      @@andrewreynolds4949
      Electric locomotives are the best for high power in low speed operation !
      Quite all diesel locomotives are diesel-electric !
      Overhead rail in tunnels take less room than a normal catenary . Electrification is costly at first but save money at the end. Less maintenance for locomotives, possibility to run trains with “green energy”,less dead weight to transport (fuel) ,fewer engines needed for the same weight,
      recuperation breaks to generate power while breaking, service life easily over 50 years….!
      Just start somewhere!
      Switzerland is 99,1 percent electrified since the sixties beginning in the 1910’s.
      I remind you,some lines were electrified and dismantled since !
      Start with the most important routes !

  • @herzschlagerhoht5637
    @herzschlagerhoht5637 Год назад +1

    As always, super interesting video from you! ;)

  • @itmkoeln
    @itmkoeln 2 года назад +2

    A little minor correction they are more eurosprinter.
    Yes Siemens Mobility has built Chargers on Vectron. But afterall Vectron/and the single Current variant Smartron started in 2010.
    The Vectron itself was based on both the EuroSprinter (electric) and EuroRunner (diesel)

  • @D2Kprime
    @D2Kprime Год назад +1

    At first, I wasn't feeling the SC. The more I see it in action, more I have started to like it. I live in Milwaukee and yesterday when I was coming out of the grocery store, the Empire Builder just so happened to come whizzing-by.
    It was a perfect-shot. I was able to see almost all of the train at the same time. It had an ALC-42 as the lead locomotive, but it also had two GE-P42DC locomotives behind it. It only had 10 maybe 15 cars at the most so I was kind-of confused as to why it needed all those locos. After looking it up I guess it's normal for the Empire Builder to have that many.

  • @catdemon922
    @catdemon922 11 месяцев назад +1

    Its so nice to see that north america is finally getting modern european trains

  • @nathantzhang
    @nathantzhang 2 года назад +4

    Knew this was coming after the scary lack of chargers in the last episode

  • @AndrewTheRadarMan
    @AndrewTheRadarMan 2 года назад +5

    Shame Amtrak didn't order streamlined locomotives like Viarail. I think more people would be inclined to use the trains if they looked more modern. Alot of people see the antiquated Amfleets and freight-based engines and compare them to Europe and Asia's high speed rail.

    • @KaiHenningsen
      @KaiHenningsen 2 года назад +4

      The sprinter and charger are direct relations to the Siemens ES64U4. ÖBB called these "Taurus", and the one numbered 1216 050 (and later renumbered 1216 025) has the world speed record for electric locomotives at 357 km/h (222 mph) on 2006-09-02. (If you google it, I'd say the stylistic relation is pretty obvious.)

    • @AndrewTheRadarMan
      @AndrewTheRadarMan 2 года назад

      Interesting. I could see where the design is similar. Although the Taurus has a very interesting sound when accelerating. The ACS 64 doesn't sound like a saxophone playing a scale

    • @Neuzahnstein
      @Neuzahnstein 2 года назад

      @@KaiHenningsen additionally the via rail concept is based on the öbb service railjet.

    • @mikeblatzheim2797
      @mikeblatzheim2797 Год назад

      @@AndrewTheRadarMan
      The sound is due to how the AC power gets generated and delivered to the motors, and Siemens engines from the early 2000s in particular developed this sound. The technology has become simpler and more efficient since, but at the cost of the wonderful sound. This even includes the Taurus; whilst the first two series play you some musical notes when accelerating, the third series, sharing the same bodyshell, doesn't.

  • @AFCManUk
    @AFCManUk 2 года назад +1

    3:30 Good lord! The curve of that track!!!

  • @CrackedAmoeba24
    @CrackedAmoeba24 2 года назад +5

    I’d love to see a Siemens Charger B Unit for the long distance trains!

  • @fluffnose3386
    @fluffnose3386 2 года назад +4

    The ALC 42 Es sound really really cool.

    • @paulwarner5395
      @paulwarner5395 2 года назад

      I prefer the sound of the big GEs not a truck sounding motor of the Chargers.

    • @fluffnose3386
      @fluffnose3386 2 года назад

      @@paulwarner5395 I’ve not actually seen one in person. But I feel the same way. Trains shouldn’t sound like trucks. This is why I hate British trains so much lol

    • @tropicalsimonthirty2283
      @tropicalsimonthirty2283 Год назад

      @@paulwarner5395 I thought the train systems and their futures mattered-
      Welp roll out the sound based trains siemens!

    • @maas1208
      @maas1208 Год назад

      ​@@paulwarner5395I like the Screaming of the F40s better

  • @michaeltb1358
    @michaeltb1358 2 года назад +2

    Interesting that Europea designed locos are taking over in USA passenger service. In the UK US designed and built locos have taken over the cargo market.

    • @tzarcoal1018
      @tzarcoal1018 Год назад +1

      really? That means you guys have mostly Diesel operations?
      It would make sense most since European Loco makers have deprioritized Diesel a bit, in the US Diesel is still undisputed King in the freight market.

    • @michaeltb1358
      @michaeltb1358 Год назад +1

      @@tzarcoal1018 Many UK passenger lines are electrified, but not so many of the lines that carry freight, especially branches, so diesel is used more for freight.

  • @AussieGunzel
    @AussieGunzel 2 года назад +4

    Could you do a video on the EMD F125 (the locomotive meant to rival the charger)

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад +2

      Please no, far better to do one on the MPXpress series, the actual rivals to both the Genesis series and the Chargers

  • @andrealauer4493
    @andrealauer4493 2 года назад +2

    I had the pleasure of taking the empire builder with ALC 42 #300, the very first one delivered, about a month ago. It was beautiful in person and definitely noticably quieter than the adjoining Genesis

    • @nolantherailfan5048
      @nolantherailfan5048 Год назад

      It's also more fuel efficient than the Genesis

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Год назад

      If I recall the Genesis locos are still 2 stroke diesels.

  • @Jeragon186
    @Jeragon186 2 года назад +4

    I like the look of the ALCs over the SCs, but the ditch lights aren’t synced at all (unless it’s the typical camera shutter speed not matching the LEDs). Y’all can see it in videos of the ALCs.

  • @tholei11
    @tholei11 2 года назад +1

    As of 2022 , approximately 1728 European Vectron locomotives built , all types and 774 options .

  • @jfp3earth357
    @jfp3earth357 2 года назад +3

    I loved the fact that CT rail will actually get chargers as well but what will they be classified as will they actually retired the p-40s and the gp40s and replace them because I'm starting to think that the p-40s and gp40s are just temporary unless if CT rail is planning to use all three locomotives which I doubt because the other two don't comply to tier 4 emission standards. Do you know if CT rail will purchase Venture coaches and cab cars as well or will they keep the mbbs that were given by MBTA and Mafersas from Virginia Railway Express

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад

      I heard they were debating whether to get chargers or electrify their small network and get more EMUs

  • @Century636
    @Century636 2 года назад +1

    A couple corrections: Caltrans is operating 24 SC44s and Washington State operates 8.

  • @adventuresofamtrakcascades301
    @adventuresofamtrakcascades301 Год назад

    These are my favorite diesel locomotives, but the ALC42s? Definitely my favorite Amtrak locomotive of all time

  • @denzzlinga
    @denzzlinga 2 года назад +5

    I wonder, with all the experience with the Cahrgers in the nord american market, will Siemens maybe one day build a freight engine too? And try to attack EMD and GE in their main market.

    • @petrfedor1851
      @petrfedor1851 Год назад +1

      I don´t how how different conditions for passanger and freight trains are in America but here in Europe they serve both pretty well. Taurus locos (Vectron predecesors) were primary developed for freight train.

    • @herzschlagerhoht5637
      @herzschlagerhoht5637 Год назад

      @@petrfedor1851 In the US freight trains are much longer and heavier than in Europe! Siemens has to create completely new engines. They can't use their existing European models for that.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Год назад

      North American freight locos are absolute monsters compared to anything out of Europe due to the extreme length of trains in the US and Canada. Heavy haul locos in the US run 6000hp without the need to divert power for HEP, and they run 3-6 per consist depending on weight and dynamic braking requirements. and remember that's 6000hp with 70mph freight gearing so they can pull some absolutely massive weight with only the 8500hp gas turbine locos of the late 50s and 60s and the Challenger and Big Boy steam locomotives being able to pull more weight.

    • @einstein3100
      @einstein3100 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@mrvwbug4423 Europe is mostly electrified (except smaller regional lines) that is why there are no powerful diesel trains. But electric Locomotives are most of the times stronger then diesel ones: for Example the standard Siemens Vectron has 8600hp

  • @andrewtabatabai9590
    @andrewtabatabai9590 2 года назад +2

    Next Siemens venture

  • @chariseaustin-lucy2039
    @chariseaustin-lucy2039 2 года назад +3

    Nice Video. The Siemens Charger is one of my favorite locomotives, but mostly the SC44 is my favorite.

  • @fredschmitt456
    @fredschmitt456 Год назад +1

    It's about time American freight trains make the switch to Siemens Chargers, if only for the cool name!

  • @jantube358
    @jantube358 2 года назад +1

    Next: Passenger Wagons of the Future

  • @therailfanman2078
    @therailfanman2078 2 года назад +1

    I actually like the look of the chargers.
    I like the ACS-64 and charger engines.

  • @justinbourget1560
    @justinbourget1560 2 года назад +1

    Exo here at Montréal in Canada but also the charger from Siemens 🙂

  • @electrictractiontrainsandt3063

    Amazing Video! Well Done!👍

  • @johntherailfan3754
    @johntherailfan3754 Год назад +2

    A truly crazy thought would be a freight charger, made by Siemens to compete with EMD and GE Tier 4 offerings.

  • @Rovan84127
    @Rovan84127 25 дней назад

    I’m sorry, were those MARC bilevels all the way out in Colorado at 2:56???

  • @frederickmoller
    @frederickmoller Год назад +4

    I just read that the government of Ontario will be aquiring 4 sets Push/Pull locomotives with 2 coaches in each set for it's Ontario Northlander( my go to railway) for it's Timmins to Toronto run. The previous Lieberal government cancelled this vital train service in 2012, our current Conservative government is reinstating it! YAY

    • @sweiland75
      @sweiland75 Год назад

      We will see. I am skeptical.

  • @DC4260Productions
    @DC4260Productions 2 года назад +3

    I have mixed thoughts on these locomotives. Whilst I don't mind the ALC-42, I think the SC-44 and SCB-40 are very ugly (as it stands now, I'm indifferent to the Via Rail variant) and I also think the SC-44 is over-rated.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад +2

      I think the SCB-40 isn't too bad and the Via Rail one is decent, but I don't really like the ALC-42 or especially the SC-44

    • @R262SubwayTrain
      @R262SubwayTrain Год назад

      Siemens Charger are the Best
      And IDGAFS If you don't agree

  • @sgtdebones
    @sgtdebones 2 года назад +1

    Even though MPI MPXpress are my favorite passenger locomotives, Chargers are my close 2nd

  • @devvydoesstuff
    @devvydoesstuff 2 года назад +2

    I heard the chargers failed when Amtrak was testing them in cold weather due to their large vents, it could be possible for the via chargers to suffer from this same problem

    • @nolantherailfan5048
      @nolantherailfan5048 Год назад

      They should make smaller vents

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 Год назад

      Meanwhile the Brightline trains have much larger vents and larger radiators to deal with the Florida heat.

  • @lamborginiandbuses
    @lamborginiandbuses 2 года назад +5

    Would love NJT to get some SC44 or SC42 Chargers

  • @TheDURWAS
    @TheDURWAS 2 года назад +2

    Hey pls review India's Semi fast train 'Vande Bharat' Thanks.

  • @bhoneydew
    @bhoneydew 2 года назад +1

    Great video

  • @jbreezy101
    @jbreezy101 3 месяца назад

    amtrak needs the dual powers too for ALB-NYC service. looking most forward to the one that uses panto/ battery with diesel for service to Roanoke, Springfield, and Newport News. Why the heck didnt brightline go panto and why did they decide to go with crossings on new track?

    • @MrMarshmallow26
      @MrMarshmallow26 2 месяца назад

      Because Brightline doesn't own the track except for the segment between Orlando and just north of Cocoa.

  • @dennisthebrony2022
    @dennisthebrony2022 9 месяцев назад

    I think those EXO locomotives would be called the SC44-R, the "R" standing for Removable Nose

  • @sweetwater88
    @sweetwater88 Год назад

    North Carolina DOT may make an order on the diesel only models soon for the Piedmont service.

  • @gdrriley420
    @gdrriley420 2 года назад +2

    24 not 22 for California, the last 2 were leased. split 10 northern California 14 southern California.

  • @annoyed707
    @annoyed707 11 месяцев назад

    I rode the Via variant to and from Ottawa last month. Faster, smoother and quieter than the old stock.

  • @YaoboyProd2K15
    @YaoboyProd2K15 Год назад +1

    The new face of North American Passenger railroading.

  • @Neuzahnstein
    @Neuzahnstein 2 года назад +4

    Charger platform could be as well interesting for freight railways, in special the dual mods ones for some areas.

    • @tzarcoal1018
      @tzarcoal1018 Год назад +1

      only in the nieche market sadly. Electrified Freigth is not really a thing in the US, so dual mode makes little sense. Siemens does not offer a Diesel option that is powerful enough for freight traffic.

  • @JermaniBurroughs
    @JermaniBurroughs 7 месяцев назад

    Tbh the SC-44 is the Diesel Verison of the Vectron Electrics, The SCV-44 & SCB-44 Chargers are us the Diesel verison of Taurus. & the ALC-42 & Arios are like the Diesel Version of the ACS-64

  • @marcleslac2413
    @marcleslac2413 9 месяцев назад

    Can't wait to see exo's charger fleet.

  • @f.b.1614
    @f.b.1614 Год назад +1

    Nice locomotives, does anyone know where the Chargers are built?

  • @supericeman1
    @supericeman1 2 года назад

    I saw a charger on the empire builder on my way back from seattle to fargo, my train had the p42s and the train going to seattle had the alc-42 chargers

  • @TheWarrior1256
    @TheWarrior1256 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @davidgertz1317
    @davidgertz1317 2 года назад +2

    The Chargers have little front-end protection for the operating crew. This cab design is not an issue on the NE corridor because there are no grade crossings as there are in cross country service. I would not want to be in a cab of a Charger in an unavoidable collision with a semi-truck stuck on a crossing!

    • @Century636
      @Century636 2 года назад +1

      They have done very well against tractor-trailers, heavy farm equipment, and high speed airborne derailment.

    • @AlRoderick
      @AlRoderick 2 года назад +2

      Idiots in Florida keep ignoring signals and driving across brightline tracks, so there have been many real world tests of the Siemens charger performance in a vehicle collision, and for the most part they come out of it fine.

    • @richardscathouse
      @richardscathouse 2 года назад

      I wonder how that's working out for Briteline, where they seem to have multiple track incursions per week. One report I read said it was the preferred method of suicide in FL, surpassing opiate drugs. I wonder how long until Briteline is banned! 😉😅😅😅💀💀💀

    • @mikeblatzheim2797
      @mikeblatzheim2797 Год назад

      They follow the European design philosophy of incorporating a crash structure that deforms in an impact as well as an extremely strong survival cell to protect the driver/engineer. Trust me, they'll do just fine.

  • @PGHammer21A
    @PGHammer21A 2 года назад

    How much grief does The Borgata get from guests that sleep on the windmill side? (I ask because the REVEL also had one - when it was the Hilton Atlantic City, then the Atlantic Club - and I stayed there myself - on the windmill side - on purpose - slept like a brick - during a blizzard.)

  • @mygins5820
    @mygins5820 2 года назад +2

    Metro-North will definitely need to replace their pl42 AC'S that they're getting rid of for the port Jervis route

    • @danielchou5895
      @danielchou5895 2 года назад +1

      NJT owns the PL42s.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад

      I thought the NJT PL42 fleet was getting replaced by ALP-45As

    • @_SP64_
      @_SP64_ Год назад

      ​@@andrewreynolds4949 they are but not all of them

    • @R262SubwayTrain
      @R262SubwayTrain Год назад

      Bro PL42AC Are Good Locomotive

  • @gloria6229
    @gloria6229 Год назад

    Maybe, some P32ACDMs will be kept on Metro-North as protect power in case a Charger on MTA breaks down.

  • @BorisLu
    @BorisLu Год назад

    Great video! Good day! Greetings from Ukraine!

  • @NorthAtlanticRails
    @NorthAtlanticRails 2 года назад

    Very cool!

  • @JeffFrmJoisey
    @JeffFrmJoisey 2 года назад +2

    RUclips is destroying your video by putting in ads EVERY 2 MINUTES!!!!!

  • @thesquirrelthatwentupurass7920
    @thesquirrelthatwentupurass7920 2 года назад +2

    I don't get the disgust sentiments toward the SC-44. It is personally my favorite of the platform. Oof, Coaster's chargers? Slap. Imagine if we got all blue chargers. Like in a Trimet blue. Fuck.

  • @rontroy3843
    @rontroy3843 2 года назад

    1. Does anyone know if LIRR still plans to buy these DM's? 2. Does anyone now the dimensions. Specifically, will the be low enough, etc. to fit into LIRR's 63rd Street tunnel along with the other tunnel segments leading to Grand Central LIRR?

  • @trainglen22
    @trainglen22 11 месяцев назад

    The Via rail ones are definitely nice

  • @AlexanderPerez-hv4nu
    @AlexanderPerez-hv4nu 2 года назад

    When Metro-North Railroad gets their Siemens Charger locomotives and retire their P32AC-DMs, the train sets will no longer be called “Metro-North Genesis”😢. I wonder what will they be called with the new locomotives in the set?

  • @kavik2825
    @kavik2825 11 месяцев назад

    Only 7 operate on the Cascades. Initial order was only for 8, and one was totaled on madden voyage, flew off the tracks from a bridge. WSDOT has ordered 2 more since.

    • @MrMarshmallow26
      @MrMarshmallow26 2 месяца назад

      We won't see the two new Chargers until the Airo sets though, at least close to that order.

  • @TheTrainMan570
    @TheTrainMan570 2 года назад +1

    Talk about a rolling brick? They can’t come up with something more aerodynamic ??

  • @Romario922
    @Romario922 2 года назад +2

    Considering the future of the ACS64 is up in the air do you think you’ll maybe do a video on potential places they could end up whether that’s to Septa, MBTA, MARC NJT

    • @truedarklander
      @truedarklander 2 года назад

      why is their future up in the air?

    • @BIoknight000
      @BIoknight000 2 года назад +3

      @@truedarklander The new ALC-42E Charger-Venture trainsets are meant to replace the ACS-64.

    • @justahillbilly7777
      @justahillbilly7777 2 года назад +2

      @@BIoknight000 They’re meant to replace MOST of the ACS-64’s which I still find to be surreal given the ACS’ are still relatively new. I think there’ll be a small fleet of ACS’ kept around to handle the long distance traffic that the electrified lines see, as well as work trains and other miscellaneous tasks.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад +2

      @@justahillbilly7777 I predict there will be a relatively large fleet left, and only a few of the bi-mode units. It's a stupid idea to get rid of so many new units given the very limited market for electric locos in North America

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 2 года назад +1

      Something tells me Siemens will buy them back and use them for parts for other Charger units (I know the mode of propulsion is different, but many other parts are in common.)

  • @peterforan5982
    @peterforan5982 Год назад

    Well done Florida ❗️

  • @adamknott7830
    @adamknott7830 2 года назад +3

    I hope these companies dont invest in battery tech and realize that overhead wires are just a better route to take

    • @richardscathouse
      @richardscathouse 2 года назад

      Modern lithium batteries are cancer. Wires are the only logical way to go.

  • @RdgRails2102
    @RdgRails2102 2 года назад

    Whenever the Chargers start appearing more often, my question is what type of Amtrak units will operate the Pennsylvanian from Philly to Pittsburgh, that type of Amtrak train isn't long distance.... Wonder if they'll use the Dash8s for the Pennsylvanian

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад +1

      Leftover P42DCs probably, if not more SC44s and ALC42s

  • @letsplaybaseball3072
    @letsplaybaseball3072 7 месяцев назад

    11:57 will this be a 6 locomotives cars to come to Metro North

  • @TohaBgood2
    @TohaBgood2 2 года назад +4

    Brightline is not a "higher speed rail" operator. The speed limit on Brightline's entire current line is 79mph, and their trains never even go above 70mph.
    After the new extension is build they will have a large section of 110mph in addition to their current 79mph trackage and a tiny, 20 mile section of 125mph trackage. So after the upgrade you could say that Brightline will become a "higher speed rail" operator. But they aren't one currently. Right now, Brightline is 100% a conventional speed operator.

    • @Neuzahnstein
      @Neuzahnstein 2 года назад +1

      And it is working, example for more corridors?

    • @TohaBgood2
      @TohaBgood2 Год назад

      @@Neuzahnstein Anything works with enough taxpayer subsidies. Brightline is very clever about extracting up to 90% of government funding and then claiming that they're "privately funded". As soon as the taxpayers realize how much they're subsidizing Brightline, the tap will close.
      Plus, hasn't Amtrak already done "highER speed rail" on the Wolverine, Lincoln service, and a few other corridors. How come Brightline gets the credit for copying something that Amtrak has been doing for over a decade?

  • @nicolasblume1046
    @nicolasblume1046 Год назад +1

    4:44 what station is that render of?

  • @haweater1555
    @haweater1555 Год назад

    11:37 EXO is the commuter rail agency of Montreal.

  • @eddylagrand7762
    @eddylagrand7762 Год назад +1

    May be there will be an opportunity Siemens’ Mireo Plus H hydrogen train soon to enter service in Scotland as with new IRA subsidies may lead to lower operating cost & emphasis on green energy in the future

  • @ReadingAreaRailfan
    @ReadingAreaRailfan 2 года назад +1

    MTA needs to keep the NH unit, even if they replace the GE fleet with Siemens

  • @powgames
    @powgames 2 года назад

    So the alc42-e are going to be the same locomotives as the dual mode ones which the mta ordered, just with a different passenger car as power source attached to it?

  • @trainsmachineryldegmtrains3509
    @trainsmachineryldegmtrains3509 2 года назад

    Super video, good work! Thumbs Up & Subscribe
    Greetings from Romania
    Andrew

  • @mistersurogat
    @mistersurogat Год назад

    nice

  • @andrewreynolds4949
    @andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад +3

    Outside of Amtrak and the NEC I think a better fit for American operators is the MPXpress series. I can't believe you consistently mention far less successful competitors but never even name the MPXpress.

    • @richardscathouse
      @richardscathouse 2 года назад

      American rail isn't supposed to be competitive.🤫🙄🤭🤭🤭🤭

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 2 года назад

      @@richardscathouse What do you mean? There has long been fierce competition between the primary locomotive manufacturers, mostly GE and EMD, and there is still a great deal of competition between the freight companies (though they do cooperate far more these days than they used to. No one is shooting up a rival engine shed over Raton Pass anymore)

    • @mikeblatzheim2797
      @mikeblatzheim2797 Год назад

      @@andrewreynolds4949
      Well, the days of EMD and GE competition are history, since both have pulled out of the freight locomotive market. Wether Caterpillar and Wabtec will be successful and equal competitors is yet to be seen, but as of now, the US railway market is basically dead. The big four railways have arranged themselves into what's essentially four regional monopolies (meaning thar almost anyhwere in the US, if you want to ship something by rail you've got a single option) and there is no longer any significant US-based freight locomotive or passenger stock manufacturer. The result of which can be seen with the huge passenger stock orders coming Siemens's way; since there is basically no competition one company can come in and sweep the entire market. Wether a similar thing will happen when the current crop of GEs and EMDs are due to be replaced is entirely dependent on both Caterpillar and Wabtec (who are both complete newcomers to this) getting their businesses up and running without any money from major orders. And I don't see that happening.

    • @R262SubwayTrain
      @R262SubwayTrain Год назад +1

      MPXpress is Discontinued

  • @ronparrish6666
    @ronparrish6666 11 месяцев назад

    Why does the Via ones look better than the Amtrak ones is it the paint job or am i missing something

    • @Eaglescout217
      @Eaglescout217 3 месяца назад +1

      nose cone design along with the snow blade on the front does make a bit more stylish

  • @alimehdi3684
    @alimehdi3684 Год назад

    My experience with the Chargers on the Illinois routes is that they are noticeably quieter, the acceleration is brisk and smooth and you can barely smell any exhaust fumes. I am looking forward to seeing the chargers on our Chicago Metra routes.

    • @maas1208
      @maas1208 Год назад +1

      Relience on EMD prime movers.

  • @MrPedroramos8911
    @MrPedroramos8911 Год назад

    Can't wait to see them in Metro North

  • @sled57
    @sled57 Год назад

    These haven't taken over squat as there are well over 200 GE and EMD units still in service compared to a couple dozen Chargers just beginning service in the last couple years. All new locomotives have teething problems to work out, and Siemens is no different.

  • @StevieRico
    @StevieRico 12 дней назад

    I based this on opinion, I like many grew up with the genesis series and will be sad to see it go. I’ve rail-fanned it, even ridden behind it, and I love the charger, but will miss the genesis, purely opinion not based on performance from any locomotive

  • @kainhall
    @kainhall Год назад

    i know the Empire Builder is running these new locos.....
    .
    sometimes 2 locos at the front.... sometimes 1 changer infront of a P42

  • @georgebenson6036
    @georgebenson6036 Год назад

    I thought the chargers had some teething problems. Is that just ancient history now?

  • @gloria6229
    @gloria6229 Год назад

    Maybe all P32ACDMs will be converted into Non-Powered Control Units.