This system is awesome . I helped bale hay on my dad's farm when I was a child . Imagine a small room growing the same food as huge fields . No back breaking work in the summer heat 🤣
Great..video...have a cuestion...when you start harvesting...the one at bottom do you move all the trays down and start a new one on top..??.. or..?? Thanks
Wow it amazes me how many people want to pull down someone willing to stick their neck out to teach. Thank you so much for both the film and time responding to the comments. I actually read through them. Plan to try this with my chickens and report back how it works. Have a great day
if you want to greatly increase your output with this, fertilise your water at the top , it will greatly increase the food value of your fodder, after trying many fertilizers, the best turned out to be composted chicken droppings, then make a solution by trickling water thru them, and add it sparingly to your water, we also use this in our greenhouse, with super results
Try Ormus, we make a great agricultural product as well as a food grade product for pets and people. The plant product can be consumed without harm, and the increase in growth rates will be very hard to miss. Look what Ken Rohla is showing using Vancouver Island Ormus Kola Brand. Natural, biocompatible, consumable. ruclips.net/video/KV5fyFUzVx0/видео.html&feature=emb_logo www.vancouverislandormus.net/learn-more
You are a life saver. I have tried to achieve good results with fodder and have failed miserably in summer there is no grass. Chooks, rabbits, cows we all need this. Well done!!!
Great, clear, detailed video. Nice information and helpful to those getting started. However, I might mention - don’t get too far ahead in storing grain - all grain and seed will get buggy. Unless lots of pesticides are used in the field, it’s just the way it is. If used in a couple of months it’s not an issue but just like at home when you have beans, grains stored - you will find yourself with moths flying everywhere if it’s been stored for 6 months. If you have never had this happen (and you are over 50) you have heavy pesticide sprayed grain, seeds, beans to keep them from infesting the fields. Please remember, sanitation and safe hygiene is crucial if you are doing this for your personal use, ie making sprouts for your salads, sandwiches but also for your stock etc. see before. If your roots are getting light tan to brown you have Phytophthora or phythium. The roots should be very white unless they are affected by some type of fungi or bacteria. It affects roots, stems, etc. and everything grown whether hydroponically, in native soil, or in artificial potting mixes (bark, peat, coir, perlite, mixes). It is a water molds issue, sanitation, and making sure your water source is clean. And once in the water or ground (like folks who use their ponds, river, creeks, etc or water from gutters, cisterns, etc. as a water source) - it can be devastating and takes years to get rid of. Greenhouses and hydroponics etc - it can wipe out hundreds of thousands of dollars of crops. If you see this starting, test (contact your local county extension service run by state university) and then make sure you get rid of it and find out how to keep it at bay. You may need to use UV, Ozone or otherwise treat water supplies - there are some chemicals not as bad as others if trying to stay organic. Greenhouses have to do this to recycle water sources or they would waste huge volumes. They also use RO systems. Just remember UV doesn’t work well on cloudy water. I assume wanting an organic source of feed is the reason you are doing this because quite frankly, you can buy commercially grown feed cheaper and easier than gathering and making your own mixes or sprouts. Though I think sprouts, used judiciously, especially, in the winter is a great idea for all your animals if done right. Just be sure not to overdo - don’t want to have to stock up on pepto ir have to call the vet or dispose of animals due to your good intentions. If you have a medium to large operation, check with someone like Dramm to get them to help come up with a water system that treats and recycles the water, to get safe rainwater, etc. They can help with even small and have lots of information on their site… mostly directed to GH and growing operations but water quality is their specialty. If you have never had a problem, you might say what a bunch of bacon- but it only takes one time to change your mind but then it’s too late. But one easy way to prevent this is to keep hose nozzles, tools etc off the ground and hard surfaces - when you read about those two in particular you will see preventative measures. Keep trays, pots, etc off the ground or flooring. Keep these hard surfaces disinfected - you may not like this but look at Physan20, products like Sanidate etc. These have similar ingredients hospitals, nursing homes, restaurants, food processing plants, etc use to try and keep safe without bleach which is harmful to skin, eyes, lungs, fabrics etc and must be constantly remade. Just clothing damage is enormous pain in the butt as far as I’m concerned. But bleach solutions must be mixed accurately at the right levels or you might as well use plain water. It’s can be inactive in 24 hours down to as low as 2 hours depending on other factors like how dirty the item was to begin with. Dirt deactivates the killing power of your sanitation and disinfection strength if not washed clean first. The surface must be washed first to remove gross dirt (visible dirt) then disinfected, and then sanitized. The Clorox company explains this on their site. But the surfaces must stay wet with the solution at least 10 minutes to work. Disinfection will have a rinse step, but sanitized (final step) is used to air dry on the surface. The drying once the item is completely clean helps in the killing of whatever might still be active. I realize Some of this applies to wheat grass, sprouts people use s for your chickens, etc but … again when you read you can see how it can infect raised beds, native soil, equipment etc and it’s years to get rid of sitting barren unless heavy chemicals are used. And that’s not a guarantee. In some countries, they use heavy duty steam equipment to sanitize beds and soil, but the US is slow to adopt anything not “chemical based”. Wonder why? Please read the information on these diseases mentioned (bacteria, fungi, etc) because this isn’t the only issues - there is botulism, e-coli, salmonella, etc you could be passing to your livestock causing fertility, spontaneous abortion, and other sickness issues. I realize this is a bit rambling but you can do the research. Best wishes.
You can purge the storage with CO2. Get dry ice put it in a jar with aquarium tube sticking out of the top. I use copper tube on the end and shove it down to the bottom. After a while with the lid gently resting on it. Stick a match in there. If it goes out it's purged. Don't open it again till you need to use it. Store in temp stable area so you don't have temperature shifts. That will get the container breathing again. Then you lose the CO2.
I am so excited to try this! I couldn’t see from the video but would be interested to see how you have the watering system set up. I could see the PVC pipes on top of the metal shelving unit but not how they are all hooked together. Could you please show/tell me how you did that? I am going to recreate your set up at my place. I loved your video, so informative.
Great tutorial. Thanks. I will surely try to produce for feeding my lambs. 1) From setting to harvesting, how many days cycle? At 5:24 this result is on what day? 2) Are the barley and corn of any particular type for this fodder production? 2) Do you pre-wash the barley and corn with detergent? Which one? 3) Daily how many times do you run water on setter tray? For how long each time? Kindly guide further.
My wife are in Ca in the Sierra Nevada mountains. We have mirrored our fodder set up similar to yours other than ours are on a rack but not in the shower. My Question is we are having uneven growth in the middle of the trays as they seem to only get about half as tall. The root mass is fine but the greens just aren't getting as tall. We have tried less water, more water, more drill holes. Any suggestions you might have to get the trays to be more even? Thanks for the videos and like I said after watching many others we mirrored ours after yours. We feed three trays a day to 9 wool sheep and three goats. Thanks Kurt and Laura
Kurt Duren ... Hi there! Well, mat thickness maybe? I would start with a good 1/4”-1/2” thick bed of seed. The other idea would’ve the watering. If the center was not growing that would mean that area is not getting enough water on it. Not water that may run under the roof mat but water over the seeds. I stayed it before, you cannot over water this system but you can under water. Drainage is the other huge key. Stagnant water will destroy a tray in a couple days and if in a cascading system like this, it will send fungus and kill the trays below. I have another video with this system that may help on my channel or linked in the description but these trays were a lifesaver when I did this. That is, the black trays, not the white ones. Not sure the costs now or availability but these trays were a game changer for sure.
Thanks - informative video. Why field peas? I have seen mixing sunflower seeds with barley but not peas. Do the chickens like it better? Is the barley/pea cheaper mix than straight barley?
Field pea had a higher growth percentage and a higher protein percentage. I tried BOSS (Black oil sunflower seed) and where it did grow in this system, it didn't yield as much compared to Field Pea. BOSS is just easier to get.
The 40 gal can can hold around 125 lbs. and the field pea I've used came in 40 lb bags where the barley was 50 lb bags. I did say a 30/70 (barley/field pea)
@@CKKnifeandTool where do you purchase your feed? I've looked online and only found azure to have barely and field pea. I know in your information box under the video it says to look in the comments. I dont know if anyone has asked but I've watched the video 8 times and read all comments and can't see where you purchase your grains. Thanks so much! Great video do much information.
Just run about 6-8 min total. Just wash each tray individually as well as from top down. A good rinsing will save you tons of problems. You can save the water and run it through a filtration system to reuse but don't reuse water without that. It will be contaminated and you'll just be putting back all the bacteria and such you rinse out previously.
Thanks for this great idea! My 4 chickens could clear a 5x10 foot area of my lawn straight down to the dirt in one day, but this should satisfy their need for green! As to the waste water issue, one youtube farmer demonstrated his prep method for fodder in which he washed his seeds thoroughly, then soaked in a rather strong bleach solution (1 cup bleach to 3 gallons water), washed the seeds again, a couple of times, I think, then soaked for 24 hours. I think this process will likely produce cleaner return water from the flood and drain, and therefore, reusable water. I am going to try this with a pump and timer on a small scale and see what happens. Thanks again for this great idea.
Perhaps you need to rewatch this. It's not a strong bleach solution. That would kill the sprouts. You just want to make a solution of bleach in a spray bottle to disinfect the Folgers coffee container.
The bleach is used as a disinfectant to kill mold. Different places at different times of the year have different conditions that would promote mold growth. Use more bleach accordingly If needed.
We did about a 4” square per rabbit. This video has a bit more info but is a little older. Still relevant to today though. Hope it helps. ruclips.net/video/17v0bAb-JHk/видео.html
Thank you for the clear instructions. I notice the grass is pretty green. Do the trays get any sun at all? Is your grain feed grade and should the grains be untreated (anything else?)?
That is a very good system you have going there. Thanks for sharing this information step-by-step. Do you have a video on you distributing this fodder to the chickens? Love to see them as they're eating it. Thanks 👍😊
Do you grow yours indoors or outdoors? I've tried with oats before out side and they did not do well. I reckon the bugs effected it or the heat. I live in southeast Louisiana.
Great video............I read through all the comments. The snarky comments are difficult to ignore.............but doable. So, the pvc on the shelves is just to give the trays the angle you need, yes? Too bad people feel they must challenge your system............silly and rude. Thank you for sharing what you do. By the way, I have been sprouting various seeds and grains for 20 plus years and your variant take was refreshing. What works for you is a wonderful thing. More please.
Hi, my name is Veronica* Walker and I am a homebased missionary at a small farm school in South Africa (I am a South African). We cater for underprivilaged children at the school and they board weekly. We have verious faming activities that helps us to feed the children. After seeing your video realize this can help us feed our rabbits. Can you guide more - I see white tubes where your trays rest on. What are they for? Then I also would like to know when / how often do you water your trays a day? Hope to here from you soon.
Hi there! The white pic tubes are just a small frame that allows the water to drain better. Stagnant water will be the number one enemy to a fodder system no matter the grain you're growing. I water twice a day and for about 5 minutes per tray. You may want to find a way to collect your water but if you do that, you'll have to filter well too. There are molds and media that will collect in the bottom and if used unfiltered, you will contaminate the entire fodder ecosystem you've built. Many folks comment about my wasting water but I did this on the fly and with minimal investment. If you collect the water and not use it on the fodder system but on other garden plants, that would be optimal. Not wasting the water but using it on something that isn't as sensitive to the growing process like fodder can be. You can NEVER over water a fodder system but you can definitely kill the system by not watering enough. Watering like this, growing like this means you have to flush away all the bacterias, "yesties" and other bio-mass, no matter how small.
was cooking bacon and eggs while this was running, but how many cows, productivity on this. I am gonna be focused on a new barn and work shop this year. thinking of a screened lean to work on some type of fodder system and possibly slidding doors for ease of access to it. (harvested rain./pond water should be used and natural heat/sunlight) I might even try piping a control valve off the barn to harvest into a tank and some in a bay engineered to store maybe 20 gallons of water at any time and excess goes over to the 20k gallon tank neat video, but could be doing a better operation of things to be honest.
HElko. Thank you for sharing vdo, very interesting system. May I ask how many times you have to water the plants in a day or you have run the system all day long?
Thank you for sharing your method and insights. It is very helpful! Do you know the variety of the field pea you use? I am using a winter pea seed but am not getting nearly the amount of growth. Our barley and sunflower sprouts are 4-5” tall in 7 days but the pea sprouts are half that. Thank you!!
I enjoyed viewing your system working. Please inform if the trickling of water is continuous or if there are intervals? How many days for growing to feed the animals? Tks much
WOW! I have been wanting to start growing some meat chickens and trying to figure out where I can grow some fodder for my chickens. I have two showers, one I never use! What a great idea!
Scratch and Peck, various scraps every now and then from the house, meal worms, expired (or close to it) oatmeal and cereals. Mostly this is in the winter when the bugs and such are less prevalent.
I prefer barley over wheat. I've used them both but found barley a more hardy grain for fodder that wheat. Wheat was more susceptible to mold growth. Ultimately though, its what can you get in your area. Here in the comments you find so many folks that can't readily obtain barley.
Hey it was awesome idea. I am planning to grow goats, i was worrying for the land. After seeing your video i got lot of confidence. your method is easy and simple no need to spend any money. You made my day. Thanks lot. Put some more videos as like this.
There is a ton of information here on RUclips. Did you read my comments in the description box? Also, there are some good fodder groups on Facebook you could look into and maybe find folks from your own region.
Hi again. I tried mixed seeds from local poultry market. Philipino style. It's making bubbles on surface. I did soak, rinse and used bleach. It's more than 24hours now. Wish I could share pics.. Fb. Messenger?
Hi again. I tried mixed seeds from local poultry market. Philipino style. It's making bubbles on surface. I did soak, rinse and used bleach. It's more than 24hours now. Wish I could share pics.. Fb. Messenger?
I realize it only takes about 4-5 days to get the trays to the point where they are ready for animals to eat, but once the trays are tall and ready to feed to the animals, how long could you hold them without the grass spoiling? A week? I wondered how many trays I could get going at once. And do you have any videos more towards your set up? I see PVC and racks...how did you get the water to the top of the rack? Thanks!
This is the most informative video I've found on fodder. I started my system but am having a lot of trouble with bacteria/mold and seeds not sprouting. Thank you for all the tips.
Is there any special seed to use as fodder for chickens? My chicks love grass and they have completely eaten every blade of grass in their run area. I would love to grow some for them.
Mine too. I've been wanting to make a box with a screen over it. I've seen it done. As the greens grow, they nibble. I didn't know what to use to get started. This sounds perfect
Have you had any problems with crop compaction with the chickens? I know those pea shoots can be kind of stringy and that bottom tray seemed kind of long. Also, how much do you give per bird roughly? I have 8 chickens and would like to give 2 trays per day for all 8. Does that seem like too much or too little?
The fodder was primarily for rabbits and whatever was left went to chickens. I'd think a tray for 4 hens would be good and 2 for 8 fine. I wouldn't use it for they're only food source but I think what you stated would be a good start.
CK Knife and Tool thanks for reply my comment. I have a question to ask. I am interested to start goat farming business. So can we fully depend on the hydroponic system for green fodder? please reply me....!!!
CK Knife and Tool thanks for reply my comment. According to my research, one goat dose of at least 15-20 kg (minimum). 3-4 kg green fodder, 1kg of dry fodder, 200-250 grams (mixture of soybean, maize, wheat etc.). eat Every day. My reason to tell all this is that I want to start the goat farming with 5 female goat & 1 male goat. As you mentioned, at least 5-6 kg fodder is formed in 7-8 days from one kg seed. OK If we keep remember for all these things, then one goat consumes 3 kg of green fodder in one day. So for 6 goats, about 6 × 3 = 18 Kg green fodder will be required per day. So how about produce minimum 20 kg of green fodder every day. how to manage Hydroponics system in large scale. PLEASE REPLY ME...!!!
One love ... When I started and was trying different grains, I bought some BOSS (black oil sunflower seed) and mixed it with the Field pea and barley and it grew. I see no issue doing it but it doesn’t do well on its own from my experience
The soaking process with a few drops of mold is what has killed the mold/ bacteria. Then, its the good thorough rinsing that washes away all the "Yesties" and such that promote mold growth. many folks call it a waste of water but it's what works and the water wasn't an issue with me.
Do you need any sort of lights for the system as it doesn't look like you have any lights... Do you need to leave the light on inside the room?? Will it work with minimal lighting? Thank you, this was a great video. I've been wanting to do this for a while. I like your setup. I think I would do it in tubs or something so I could capture the water runoff when setting seeds and such. Must be quite beneficial if you're willing to give up one of your household showers!
What type of animals do you feed this to? Also, like that you add field peas, never seen that before. Oh, do you leave the water running over them 24/7 or just a few minutes a day?
Well I just dont understand one thing. This fodder is great but seeds use their stored starch to sprout and grow so does the increase in digestibility compensate for the loss of energy.
@@CKKnifeandTool Thank you, I just started my fodder station on a 5 tier metal following a lot of your advice, will they get enough light to sprout green in the shower stall or did you add a light?
lulubelle3188 .... The racks were around $35 each and I used two I bought from Home Depot or Lowe’s. The black trays were about the same for 10 (I think). The soaking and such can be had for free.
This is a grate video, I know and saw fodder system from 1976 in RSA, professionaly done in Debeers farm , to help feeding catle in the Summer time.,, i would like to ask you , if you please know how much fodder will be needed to feed 150 adult lyers on egg production,,, thank very much and God Bless and family,, Jose
This might sound silly but I have no knowledge in this type of thing; is the water just water or do you add, dissolve or mix-in anything additional, such as minerals and such? If the water needs additional things, would it be a good idea to filter the water through a natural filter, such as layers of soil, rocks, etc, to mimic something more natural? If so, would using a system like this be beneficial by slightly increasing the nutritional value of the product or is that way too insignificant?
hii, you did mention you put a small amount of bleach in your soaking water. pls tell me in detail how much % bleach and how much water to soak ? i need it .. so i can do seed germination.. thank appreciate it andrew
The red soaking can gets only enough to kill any spores or bacteria that may be on the grains. You'll have to go by the vessel you are using to determine the amount. It's in a water/bleach mix bottle so there's barely a half tea spoon, a quarter tea spoon. The water has an ever so slight smell... not very strong odor.
hiya , I'd like to ask a few questions and I hope you bare with me and answer them cuz I really need your advice , so .. 1-Do you soak the seeds for a whole 24 hours without rinsing during that time ? 2-how many times do you water ? it's pretty hot here around 100-120°F , so the upper seeds seem to dry quickly when on the tray .. 3-can I like put a cheesecloth or smth like that on the seeds ( which are on the tray ) to keep the moisture available constantly ? thanks in advance
Dalil Midouni... hello! 1) I do not rinse during the soaking cycle. 2) At your temperatures is say water three or four times a day. You really cannot over water fodder. So long as the watering doesn't start to disrupt the root may growing process. 3) Rhe cheese cloth idea is interesting but I'd say stay away from that. It's important that fodder gets drained well and if it becomes a little dry between watering that'd be OK I think. There's a difference in keeping moist vs. watering more frequently. The cloth may contribute to mold growth in wheat and the "yeasties" in barley. Some good watering and very good drainage has always been the two keys to success with me. The third was temperatures. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
I used to soak for only 12-14 hours in a tub , some say no more than 18 hours , but 24 hours , that could make a whole difference in root growth , so yea this is what I needed to know
I'm having a hard time getting grain to grow with temps above 95. If I bring trays inside, we have issues with fruit flies/ moths. My chickens love fodder but its frustrating during the summer. I'd love to hear from someone who grows outdoors in heat and wind. Good video and info for indoors!
Melissa Schnieders... We use to grow in the garage and leave the racks outdoors. When it was hot I had to water three times a day. But the biggest culprit to our troubles was the chipmunks climbing into the system and eating the fodder. As for your temps, keep in the shade and water three or more times a day. Just make sure you have very good drainage. As I've said before, you really can't over water fodder. Folks usually refrain from a lot of watering because of mold or yeastie growth. It's really the draining that gets you. As for fruit flies when indoors, small jars with apple cider vinegar works. Poke 1/4" holes in the lids and the flies climb in and can't get out.
That is an amazing system! How many chickens do you have? How long does one tray last for you? The rotating system is brilliant! I would like to try this
Interesting using 50-50 bleach mix. Food grade sprouts usually use 20:1 bleach for cleaning equipment. I think a good seed sterlization process would be soak for 5 minutes in the bleach bath then rinse and add water.
I don’t soak the seeds in a 50/50 mix. I soak the seeds in water with a few squirts of a 50/50 mix. In total, maybe 1/4 to a 1/2 teaspoon of bleach is in the coffee can which holds about 1/2 a gallon of water with the seeds. When sprayed in the water and stirred about, you barely smell the bleach water mix. It’s just enough to kill any bacteria or fungus.
All depends on the animal and what else you include. We fed dry pellet with fodder and on occasion carrot peels and cucumber pieces. Always balance a dry food with fodder so they have a good balance of vitamins and nutrients
When you use fodder for feeding animals, do you have to run some kind of calculation on converting how much fodder would equal how much real grain? How do you do this without wasting grain, but not overfeeding also?
Add in your better quality food. Chickens will eat what they want. You will notice how much grain you are over feeding, so give less in accordance. Ask the chickens, not youtube.
1. Chickens and rabbits 2. Approximately 4.5 oz per animal 3. Everyday 4. Yes. Chickens get corn mix and rabbits get dry grass and pellets 5. Rabbits get fed first. Up to 30 rabbits. When we have less rabbits, then chickens get the rest.
Hi Rick. Yes, a Clorox or off brand but no scented stuff. The amount of bleach is minuscule really. The few squirts I used came from a 50/50 or 60/40 water bleach mix to begin with. It's meant to kill off any bacterias or such that might be in the grains. if your familiar with using bleach to disinfect drinking water, this process is no different. Thanks for watching!
Rust did show up but not as bad as you think. And for the price, you can replace the system later. With that said though, it would be several years before that became a concern. You could sand them and repaint to clean up and protect.
@@CKKnifeandTool or you could also try painting them with rustoleum paint before using them. That would probably help them to last a little bit longer.
Awesome video thank you. I would love to see an experiment done on your channel where you use Backing Soda instead of Bleach, I feel it might be healthier but I am unsure if it would prevent mold in this system. Thank you 💗
I used baking soda in the past as well as hydrogen peroxide but didn't get very good results. But, results vary in regions so I would never dismiss the idea for you or someone else.
Use a 0.1% potassium permanganate solution. It is safe and effective and inexpensive. It is odorless and tasteless. It is used all over the world to treat drinking water. It's used to treat fungal infections for feet at higher concentrations.
This is by far the most economical system I have ever seen to grow microgreen, thank you so very much!
Yes this is an easy cheap system... best I've seen yet
This system is awesome . I helped bale hay on my dad's farm when I was a child . Imagine a small room growing the same food as huge fields . No back breaking work in the summer heat 🤣
Please what’s the of the seed
Best home fodder setup I've seen on RUclips.
Thanks!
@@CKKnifeandTool hi, do you need to add any chemicals while being soaked? because I have seen some videos like that.
Great..video...have a cuestion...when you start harvesting...the one at bottom do you move all the trays down and start a new one on top..??.. or..??
Thanks
Wow it amazes me how many people want to pull down someone willing to stick their neck out to teach. Thank you so much for both the film and time responding to the comments.
I actually read through them. Plan to try this with my chickens and report back how it works.
Have a great day
How did it work out?
How did this work for your chickens? What grains did you use and about how much did you grow for how many hens?
Hope to hear from you!
Thanks alot, I'm from Africa but I like farming alot with this method I will save a lot, May God bless you so much with this teaching
if you want to greatly increase your output with this, fertilise your water at the top , it will greatly increase the food value of your fodder, after trying many fertilizers, the best turned out to be composted chicken droppings, then make a solution by trickling water thru them, and add it sparingly to your water, we also use this in our greenhouse, with super results
Make a video on that
Rabbit droppings work even better, I hear!
Try Ormus, we make a great agricultural product as well as a food grade product for pets and people. The plant product can be consumed without harm, and the increase in growth rates will be very hard to miss. Look what Ken Rohla is showing using Vancouver Island Ormus Kola Brand. Natural, biocompatible, consumable.
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@@kevinhay7421 any benefits from wheatgrass juice
@@MattrixNY rabbit poo has less nitrogen than chicken poop. If you want quicker green tops, like this fodder, use chicken poo.
Such a great information
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You are a life saver. I have tried to achieve good results with fodder and have failed miserably in summer there is no grass. Chooks, rabbits, cows we all need this. Well done!!!
Wayne Flint.... Glad to hear.
How many trays are required for lactating cow? And is this fodder along with dry hey is enough for complete nutrition??
Great system. Great video. Thanks for not milking this to a 20 min video. You gave us what need and you shut up (in a nice way.)
Glad it was helpful!
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How much water you use everyday? Water bill can add up. Thanks!
Great, clear, detailed video. Nice information and helpful to those getting started.
However, I might mention - don’t get too far ahead in storing grain - all grain and seed will get buggy. Unless lots of pesticides are used in the field, it’s just the way it is. If used in a couple of months it’s not an issue but just like at home when you have beans, grains stored - you will find yourself with moths flying everywhere if it’s been stored for 6 months. If you have never had this happen (and you are over 50) you have heavy pesticide sprayed grain, seeds, beans to keep them from infesting the fields.
Please remember, sanitation and safe hygiene is crucial if you are doing this for your personal use, ie making sprouts for your salads, sandwiches but also for your stock etc. see before.
If your roots are getting light tan to brown you have Phytophthora or phythium. The roots should be very white unless they are affected by some type of fungi or bacteria. It affects roots, stems, etc. and everything grown whether hydroponically, in native soil, or in artificial potting mixes (bark, peat, coir, perlite, mixes). It is a water molds issue, sanitation, and making sure your water source is clean. And once in the water or ground (like folks who use their ponds, river, creeks, etc or water from gutters, cisterns, etc. as a water source) - it can be devastating and takes years to get rid of. Greenhouses and hydroponics etc - it can wipe out hundreds of thousands of dollars of crops. If you see this starting, test (contact your local county extension service run by state university) and then make sure you get rid of it and find out how to keep it at bay. You may need to use UV, Ozone or otherwise treat water supplies - there are some chemicals not as bad as others if trying to stay organic. Greenhouses have to do this to recycle water sources or they would waste huge volumes. They also use RO systems. Just remember UV doesn’t work well on cloudy water.
I assume wanting an organic source of feed is the reason you are doing this because quite frankly, you can buy commercially grown feed cheaper and easier than gathering and making your own mixes or sprouts. Though I think sprouts, used judiciously, especially, in the winter is a great idea for all your animals if done right. Just be sure not to overdo - don’t want to have to stock up on pepto ir have to call the vet or dispose of animals due to your good intentions.
If you have a medium to large operation, check with someone like Dramm to get them to help come up with a water system that treats and recycles the water, to get safe rainwater, etc. They can help with even small and have lots of information on their site… mostly directed to GH and growing operations but water quality is their specialty. If you have never had a problem, you might say what a bunch of bacon- but it only takes one time to change your mind but then it’s too late.
But one easy way to prevent this is to keep hose nozzles, tools etc off the ground and hard surfaces - when you read about those two in particular you will see preventative measures. Keep trays, pots, etc off the ground or flooring. Keep these hard surfaces disinfected - you may not like this but look at Physan20, products like Sanidate etc. These have similar ingredients hospitals, nursing homes, restaurants, food processing plants, etc use to try and keep safe without bleach which is harmful to skin, eyes, lungs, fabrics etc and must be constantly remade. Just clothing damage is enormous pain in the butt as far as I’m concerned. But bleach solutions must be mixed accurately at the right levels or you might as well use plain water. It’s can be inactive in 24 hours down to as low as 2 hours depending on other factors like how dirty the item was to begin with. Dirt deactivates the killing power of your sanitation and disinfection strength if not washed clean first. The surface must be washed first to remove gross dirt (visible dirt) then disinfected, and then sanitized. The Clorox company explains this on their site. But the surfaces must stay wet with the solution at least 10 minutes to work. Disinfection will have a rinse step, but sanitized (final step) is used to air dry on the surface. The drying once the item is completely clean helps in the killing of whatever might still be active.
I realize Some of this applies to wheat grass, sprouts people use s for your chickens, etc but … again when you read you can see how it can infect raised beds, native soil, equipment etc and it’s years to get rid of sitting barren unless heavy chemicals are used. And that’s not a guarantee. In some countries, they use heavy duty steam equipment to sanitize beds and soil, but the US is slow to adopt anything not “chemical based”. Wonder why?
Please read the information on these diseases mentioned (bacteria, fungi, etc) because this isn’t the only issues - there is botulism, e-coli, salmonella, etc you could be passing to your livestock causing fertility, spontaneous abortion, and other sickness issues.
I realize this is a bit rambling but you can do the research. Best wishes.
Thank you
You can purge the storage with CO2. Get dry ice put it in a jar with aquarium tube sticking out of the top. I use copper tube on the end and shove it down to the bottom. After a while with the lid gently resting on it. Stick a match in there. If it goes out it's purged. Don't open it again till you need to use it. Store in temp stable area so you don't have temperature shifts. That will get the container breathing again. Then you lose the CO2.
Great advice! Thanks for taking the time to share.
I am so excited to try this! I couldn’t see from the video but would be interested to see how you have the watering system set up. I could see the PVC pipes on top of the metal shelving unit but not how they are all hooked together. Could you please show/tell me how you did that? I am going to recreate your set up at my place. I loved your video, so informative.
I too am interested in this information.
Great tutorial. Thanks. I will surely try to produce for feeding my lambs.
1) From setting to harvesting, how many days cycle? At 5:24 this result is on what day?
2) Are the barley and corn of any particular type for this fodder production?
2) Do you pre-wash the barley and corn with detergent? Which one?
3) Daily how many times do you run water on setter tray? For how long each time?
Kindly guide further.
No further guidance as a reply. :-/
My wife are in Ca in the Sierra Nevada mountains. We have mirrored our fodder set up similar to yours other than ours are on a rack but not in the shower. My Question is we are having uneven growth in the middle of the trays as they seem to only get about half as tall. The root mass is fine but the greens just aren't getting as tall. We have tried less water, more water, more drill holes. Any suggestions you might have to get the trays to be more even? Thanks for the videos and like I said after watching many others we mirrored ours after yours. We feed three trays a day to 9 wool sheep and three goats. Thanks Kurt and Laura
Kurt Duren ... Hi there! Well, mat thickness maybe? I would start with a good 1/4”-1/2” thick bed of seed. The other idea would’ve the watering. If the center was not growing that would mean that area is not getting enough water on it. Not water that may run under the roof mat but water over the seeds. I stayed it before, you cannot over water this system but you can under water. Drainage is the other huge key. Stagnant water will destroy a tray in a couple days and if in a cascading system like this, it will send fungus and kill the trays below. I have another video with this system that may help on my channel or linked in the description but these trays were a lifesaver when I did this. That is, the black trays, not the white ones. Not sure the costs now or availability but these trays were a game changer for sure.
Thanks - informative video. Why field peas? I have seen mixing sunflower seeds with barley but not peas. Do the chickens like it better? Is the barley/pea cheaper mix than straight barley?
Field pea had a higher growth percentage and a higher protein percentage. I tried BOSS (Black oil sunflower seed) and where it did grow in this system, it didn't yield as much compared to Field Pea. BOSS is just easier to get.
CK Knife and Tool thanks for the response - what is the mix ratio of pea/barley
The 40 gal can can hold around 125 lbs. and the field pea I've used came in 40 lb bags where the barley was 50 lb bags. I did say a 30/70 (barley/field pea)
@@CKKnifeandTool where do you purchase your feed? I've looked online and only found azure to have barely and field pea. I know in your information box under the video it says to look in the comments. I dont know if anyone has asked but I've watched the video 8 times and read all comments and can't see where you purchase your grains. Thanks so much! Great video do much information.
Great video. Could you tell me please every after how many hours i have to give water?
Just run about 6-8 min total. Just wash each tray individually as well as from top down. A good rinsing will save you tons of problems. You can save the water and run it through a filtration system to reuse but don't reuse water without that. It will be contaminated and you'll just be putting back all the bacteria and such you rinse out previously.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Well done and Thank you from SC!!
Thanks for this great idea! My 4 chickens could clear a 5x10 foot area of my lawn straight down to the dirt in one day, but this should satisfy their need for green! As to the waste water issue, one youtube farmer demonstrated his prep method for fodder in which he washed his seeds thoroughly, then soaked in a rather strong bleach solution (1 cup bleach to 3 gallons water), washed the seeds again, a couple of times, I think, then soaked for 24 hours. I think this process will likely produce cleaner return water from the flood and drain, and therefore, reusable water. I am going to try this with a pump and timer on a small scale and see what happens. Thanks again for this great idea.
5 x 10?... that's a hell of a lot of fodder you need!
Здрасьте! А зачем это?
Perhaps you need to rewatch this. It's not a strong bleach solution. That would kill the sprouts. You just want to make a solution of bleach in a spray bottle to disinfect the Folgers coffee container.
Better off using peroxide to disinfect your seeds
The bleach is used as a disinfectant to kill mold. Different places at different times of the year have different conditions that would promote mold growth. Use more bleach accordingly If needed.
How much of it do you feed per rabbit daily?
We did about a 4” square per rabbit. This video has a bit more info but is a little older. Still relevant to today though. Hope it helps.
ruclips.net/video/17v0bAb-JHk/видео.html
I am so sorry I do not have any answer for that I do not raise rabbits to eat I don't know how much you would feed them anyway if they they were pet's
where did you get your grains??
Thank you for the clear instructions. I notice the grass is pretty green. Do the trays get any sun at all? Is your grain feed grade and should the grains be untreated (anything else?)?
I'd like to know these, too.
I also wanna know
Could you please link the trays and system to purchase?
You’ll have to check Amazon. The trays sell out fast and have always been a struggle to find. No one vendor or link will help
@@CKKnifeandTool I was hoping you had an affiliated link to support the channel.
That is a very good system you have going there. Thanks for sharing this information step-by-step. Do you have a video on you distributing this fodder to the chickens? Love to see them as they're eating it. Thanks 👍😊
Thanks for this, it's absolutely amazing, all you use is natural ventilation and light, no fuss, just a simple system
Glad you like it!
Ive started doing this with oats and they sprout great! Under 10$ for a 50 pound bag. It turns into weeks worth of fodder.
Do you grow yours indoors or outdoors? I've tried with oats before out side and they did not do well. I reckon the bugs effected it or the heat. I live in southeast Louisiana.
ALotta wasted water , do you pump it to the garden or anything ?
Nice set up tho well thought out seems like it would do the trick for me
Great video............I read through all the comments. The snarky comments are difficult to ignore.............but doable. So, the pvc on the shelves is just to give the trays the angle you need, yes? Too bad people feel they must challenge your system............silly and rude. Thank you for sharing what you do. By the way, I have been sprouting various seeds and grains for 20 plus years and your variant take was refreshing. What works for you is a wonderful thing. More please.
Could be so the roots of the seedlings don't get attached to the shelf. Just a guess.
Pipes help angel the trays to drain. And yes... it is the internet so folks tend to be a bit.... well.
some people just have a mean nature, they need an adjustment
I wish all thumbs would break on those people who gave a thumbs down....shame on you ppl :-)))
At the end of the day you gotta realise that a lot of folks on the internet are there because in the real world no one will tolerate their nonesense
Hi, my name is Veronica* Walker and I am a homebased missionary at a small farm school in South Africa (I am a South African). We cater for underprivilaged children at the school and they board weekly. We have verious faming activities that helps us to feed the children. After seeing your video realize this can help us feed our rabbits. Can you guide more - I see white tubes where your trays rest on. What are they for?
Then I also would like to know when / how often do you water your trays a day?
Hope to here from you soon.
Hi there! The white pic tubes are just a small frame that allows the water to drain better. Stagnant water will be the number one enemy to a fodder system no matter the grain you're growing. I water twice a day and for about 5 minutes per tray. You may want to find a way to collect your water but if you do that, you'll have to filter well too. There are molds and media that will collect in the bottom and if used unfiltered, you will contaminate the entire fodder ecosystem you've built. Many folks comment about my wasting water but I did this on the fly and with minimal investment. If you collect the water and not use it on the fodder system but on other garden plants, that would be optimal. Not wasting the water but using it on something that isn't as sensitive to the growing process like fodder can be. You can NEVER over water a fodder system but you can definitely kill the system by not watering enough. Watering like this, growing like this means you have to flush away all the bacterias, "yesties" and other bio-mass, no matter how small.
Hello Veronica, USA here 👋. The rabbits will love this. Hope it goes well for you.
was cooking bacon and eggs while this was running, but how many cows, productivity on this. I am gonna be focused on a new barn and work shop this year. thinking of a screened lean to work on some type of fodder system and possibly slidding doors for ease of access to it. (harvested rain./pond water should be used and natural heat/sunlight) I might even try piping a control valve off the barn to harvest into a tank and some in a bay engineered to store maybe 20 gallons of water at any time and excess goes over to the 20k gallon tank neat video, but could be doing a better operation of things to be honest.
Start from where you are
Time et effort perfects
Gorgeous fodder! Well thought out system, thanks so much for sharing! God Bless
HElko. Thank you for sharing vdo, very interesting system. May I ask how many times you have to water the plants in a day or you have run the system all day long?
I water them every 3 hours for about 5 minutes
@@korlimservices4180 and don't get moldy?
@@danielfarkas5579 No Sir. They dont !
Thank you for sharing your method and insights. It is very helpful!
Do you know the variety of the field pea you use? I am using a winter pea seed but am not getting nearly the amount of growth. Our barley and sunflower sprouts are 4-5” tall in 7 days but the pea sprouts are half that. Thank you!!
Truett Roberts ... The field pea I use is round. About a 1/4” diameter.
Thanks for this video, it's a simple and clear approach.
I enjoyed viewing your system working.
Please inform if the trickling of water is continuous or if there are intervals? How many days for growing to feed the animals?
Tks much
The trickling is continuous as seen in the video. There's a good flow yet not too strong to disturb the newest sprouts.
Is that really necessary? I mean, thats wasting a lot of water
Can you recycle the water that is being used?
WOW! I have been wanting to start growing some meat chickens and trying to figure out where I can grow some fodder for my chickens. I have two showers, one I never use! What a great idea!
Sky Watcher
How do you do seed disinfection to prevent fungus?
Soak in a mild water bleach solution to kill bacteria. Rinse real good and twice a day.
I like the way you used your shower area as a green house...if you have extra space indoors for growing that is the best in my opinion.
good info what can be sold ??prices ??
We are just starting to do this for our 150+ chickens! 😀 Do they eat the root system, too?
Oh yeah!
Thank you for sharing the video.
Do you need any special lighting?
How long must the water run from the main shower head?
No special lighting and I just ran the water about 5 min to ensure a good rinsing.
@@CKKnifeandTool thanks 😊
I might have missed it, but while they are in the rack system are they being water 24/7? Or is it on a timer two or three times a day?
Twice a day. Once in the morning and once in the evening
CK Knife and Tool awesome thanks for the reply! Also do you feed your chickens anything else in addition to this?
Scratch and Peck, various scraps every now and then from the house, meal worms, expired (or close to it) oatmeal and cereals. Mostly this is in the winter when the bugs and such are less prevalent.
CK Knife and Tool are meal worms considered a treat? Or could you make that part of there daily diet if you could breed enough of them?
It's a supplement to us. Winter time treat only. All depends on what you have at your disposal and budget.
Vahid Melati (Iran)- I enjoyed watching this video. I hope you always good luck!
Thank you! You too!
Wheat vs barley
Which one is better? 🤔🤔🤔
I prefer barley over wheat. I've used them both but found barley a more hardy grain for fodder that wheat. Wheat was more susceptible to mold growth. Ultimately though, its what can you get in your area. Here in the comments you find so many folks that can't readily obtain barley.
@@CKKnifeandTool thanks buddy 😊
You use this to feed the chickens?
Hey it was awesome idea. I am planning to grow goats, i was worrying for the land. After seeing your video i got lot of confidence. your method is easy and simple no need to spend any money. You made my day. Thanks lot. Put some more videos as like this.
How do you grow goats?
@@vickyhull845 :))
@@vickyhull845 You don't. LOL You raise them....:)
What did you use to make the holes in your trays?
A 1/4” drill bit. Metric size would be around 6mm would be good
Amazing! I'm a novice from South East Asia /Philippines. I really like more info on how to start.
There is a ton of information here on RUclips. Did you read my comments in the description box? Also, there are some good fodder groups on Facebook you could look into and maybe find folks from your own region.
Hi again. I tried mixed seeds from local poultry market. Philipino style. It's making bubbles on surface. I did soak, rinse and used bleach. It's more than 24hours now. Wish I could share pics.. Fb. Messenger?
Hi again. I tried mixed seeds from local poultry market. Philipino style. It's making bubbles on surface. I did soak, rinse and used bleach. It's more than 24hours now. Wish I could share pics.. Fb. Messenger?
How long does it take to go from seed to ready to feed?
About 7 days
Perfect method... you nailed it!
Love love it. Just one question. Why not go direct to black trays after sprouting?
I realize it only takes about 4-5 days to get the trays to the point where they are ready for animals to eat, but once the trays are tall and ready to feed to the animals, how long could you hold them without the grass spoiling? A week? I wondered how many trays I could get going at once. And do you have any videos more towards your set up? I see PVC and racks...how did you get the water to the top of the rack? Thanks!
This is the most informative video I've found on fodder. I started my system but am having a lot of trouble with bacteria/mold and seeds not sprouting. Thank you for all the tips.
Hello, did you overcome the problems and producing? Please share your experience and learning.
Using the bleach will help with bacteria. Seeds are not sprouting because they need more water or more drainage
@@itsskat3 Thank you!!! looking to get my system started again with fresh chicks!
does the water have to be running all the time or can i water it on a schedule time
No, you can set a timer if you'd like. That's a great idea. Water twice to three times a day.
Thank you! I enjoyed the video very much, gonna start my fodder system now! Feeling confident!
Best of luck!
Is there any special seed to use as fodder for chickens? My chicks love grass and they have completely eaten every blade of grass in their run area. I would love to grow some for them.
Mine too. I've been wanting to make a box with a screen over it. I've seen it done. As the greens grow, they nibble. I didn't know what to use to get started. This sounds perfect
Love this is had so many issues with my fodder system. I think this video addressed them all
i do similar using straight barley.............great conversion numbers for the barley............feed to chidkens
john Killen ididnt know that chicken also eats this
Shalom! I really enjoyed watching your tutorial on Foder. Thank you so very much. Blessings to you and yours!
Michelle from Norco Southern California
Have you had any problems with crop compaction with the chickens? I know those pea shoots can be kind of stringy and that bottom tray seemed kind of long. Also, how much do you give per bird roughly? I have 8 chickens and would like to give 2 trays per day for all 8. Does that seem like too much or too little?
The fodder was primarily for rabbits and whatever was left went to chickens. I'd think a tray for 4 hens would be good and 2 for 8 fine. I wouldn't use it for they're only food source but I think what you stated would be a good start.
I think that would be the maximum I would give them, plus their feed of course. Thanks for the response and video!
When you are letting the seed soak do you get better results if you cover the cans or does it make a difference?
thanks .
nice video 😃😊😃.
what is the temperature maintained for this system.
69-71 degrees F.
CK Knife and Tool
thanks for reply my comment.
I have a question to ask.
I am interested to start goat farming business.
So can we fully depend on the hydroponic system for green fodder?
please reply me....!!!
Nihalahmad Momin ..... I’m not sure fodder alone would suffice but that’s outside my area of expertise
CK Knife and Tool
thanks for reply my comment.
According to my research, one goat dose of at least 15-20 kg (minimum).
3-4 kg green fodder, 1kg of dry fodder, 200-250 grams (mixture of soybean, maize, wheat etc.). eat Every day.
My reason to tell all this is that I want to start the goat farming with 5 female goat & 1 male goat.
As you mentioned,
at least 5-6 kg fodder is formed in 7-8 days from one kg seed.
OK
If we keep remember for all these things, then one goat consumes 3 kg of green fodder in one day.
So for 6 goats, about 6 × 3 = 18 Kg green fodder will be required per day. So how about produce minimum 20 kg of green fodder every day.
how to manage Hydroponics system in large scale.
PLEASE REPLY ME...!!!
how to manage Hydroponics system in large scale
please reply me...!!!
please share correct solution.
Wow no dirt or soil? Would that work with sunflower and pea seeds?
One love ... When I started and was trying different grains, I bought some BOSS (black oil sunflower seed) and mixed it with the Field pea and barley and it grew. I see no issue doing it but it doesn’t do well on its own from my experience
Luke, I am your Fodder... 😂😂
Still watching 😆. Where do you buy the seeds?
How do you avoid mold? That's my biggest hurdle right now.
The soaking process with a few drops of mold is what has killed the mold/ bacteria. Then, its the good thorough rinsing that washes away all the "Yesties" and such that promote mold growth. many folks call it a waste of water but it's what works and the water wasn't an issue with me.
What about light? Is there any specific conditions??
No. Just regular everyday compact florescent bulbs.
Do you need any sort of lights for the system as it doesn't look like you have any lights... Do you need to leave the light on inside the room?? Will it work with minimal lighting? Thank you, this was a great video. I've been wanting to do this for a while. I like your setup. I think I would do it in tubs or something so I could capture the water runoff when setting seeds and such. Must be quite beneficial if you're willing to give up one of your household showers!
I just used the 60 watt bathroom lights. Leave them in for the day.
thanks for sharing this vid,im sure it will helps me a lot for this knowledges to produce a healty food for my goats...
What type of animals do you feed this to? Also, like that you add field peas, never seen that before. Oh, do you leave the water running over them 24/7 or just a few minutes a day?
Rabbits, chickens, goats, cattle, horses.... they all eat the fodder. Water twice a day for about 10 min each time.
Well I just dont understand one thing. This fodder is great but seeds use their stored starch to sprout and grow so does the increase in digestibility compensate for the loss of energy.
Hi there, was is the pvc piping for, just to angle the grow trays so water will drain?
Yes, correct
@@CKKnifeandTool Thank you, I just started my fodder station on a 5 tier metal following a lot of your advice, will they get enough light to sprout green in the shower stall or did you add a light?
This is a great tutorial. Do you know how much supplies ran you to get started? I'd love to do this for my chickens!
lulubelle3188 .... The racks were around $35 each and I used two I bought from Home Depot or Lowe’s. The black trays were about the same for 10 (I think). The soaking and such can be had for free.
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Tell me if I’m wrong but I think you are growing fodder in a shower stall. What lighting do you use to help fodder grow?
Thank you so much for the video but how often do you water the trays?
Favour Desimhi.... Watering is twice a day.
What kind of live stock are you feeding? What is the amount of fodder are you feeding per animal in the day?
Rabbits and chickens. 4.5 oz per day after 7 days. They love it… especially in the summer for more moist feed
This is a grate video, I know and saw fodder system from 1976 in RSA, professionaly done in Debeers farm , to help feeding catle in the Summer time.,, i would like to ask you , if you please know how much fodder will be needed to feed 150 adult lyers on egg production,,, thank very much and God Bless and family,, Jose
Russia dairy farme
This might sound silly but I have no knowledge in this type of thing; is the water just water or do you add, dissolve or mix-in anything additional, such as minerals and such? If the water needs additional things, would it be a good idea to filter the water through a natural filter, such as layers of soil, rocks, etc, to mimic something more natural? If so, would using a system like this be beneficial by slightly increasing the nutritional value of the product or is that way too insignificant?
hii,
you did mention you put a small amount of bleach in your soaking water.
pls tell me in detail how much % bleach and how much water to soak ?
i need it .. so i can do seed germination.. thank
appreciate it
andrew
The red soaking can gets only enough to kill any spores or bacteria that may be on the grains. You'll have to go by the vessel you are using to determine the amount. It's in a water/bleach mix bottle so there's barely a half tea spoon, a quarter tea spoon. The water has an ever so slight smell... not very strong odor.
andrew ysk painepal grwo
Awesome video! Exactly what I was looking for 👍
Glad I could help!
hi live in Spain.. I am new at this! where you get the seeds from? Amazon sells this?
I know eBay has had some sellers in the past but you'll have to check
How much sunlight do you give them? How often do you water?
No sunlight. Just grow in the spare bathroom
good ideas for folks with small flock of critters.
First 24 hour soal, is that under light or in the dark?
Dark. It’s in a container
About how long does it take from seed to being able to use it?
Alllison Beard ... For me it’s 7-8 days max.
Do you por something in the water? Like hydroponic nutrients or stuff like that or is it not necessary?
No I do not. Just water for 7-8 days.
hiya , I'd like to ask a few questions and I hope you bare with me and answer them cuz I really need your advice , so ..
1-Do you soak the seeds for a whole 24 hours without rinsing during that time ?
2-how many times do you water ? it's pretty hot here around 100-120°F , so the upper seeds seem to dry quickly when on the tray ..
3-can I like put a cheesecloth or smth like that on the seeds ( which are on the tray ) to keep the moisture available constantly ?
thanks in advance
Dalil Midouni... hello! 1) I do not rinse during the soaking cycle. 2) At your temperatures is say water three or four times a day. You really cannot over water fodder. So long as the watering doesn't start to disrupt the root may growing process. 3) Rhe cheese cloth idea is interesting but I'd say stay away from that. It's important that fodder gets drained well and if it becomes a little dry between watering that'd be OK I think. There's a difference in keeping moist vs. watering more frequently. The cloth may contribute to mold growth in wheat and the "yeasties" in barley. Some good watering and very good drainage has always been the two keys to success with me. The third was temperatures. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
thanks , your advice is appreciated mate !
I used to soak for only 12-14 hours in a tub , some say no more than 18 hours , but 24 hours , that could make a whole difference in root growth , so yea this is what I needed to know
I'm having a hard time getting grain to grow with temps above 95. If I bring trays inside, we have issues with fruit flies/ moths. My chickens love fodder but its frustrating during the summer. I'd love to hear from someone who grows outdoors in heat and wind. Good video and info for indoors!
Melissa Schnieders... We use to grow in the garage and leave the racks outdoors. When it was hot I had to water three times a day. But the biggest culprit to our troubles was the chipmunks climbing into the system and eating the fodder. As for your temps, keep in the shade and water three or more times a day. Just make sure you have very good drainage. As I've said before, you really can't over water fodder. Folks usually refrain from a lot of watering because of mold or yeastie growth. It's really the draining that gets you. As for fruit flies when indoors, small jars with apple cider vinegar works. Poke 1/4" holes in the lids and the flies climb in and can't get out.
Thanks for showing how to make it.
How much fodder should you feed your chickens?
That is an amazing system! How many chickens do you have? How long does one tray last for you? The rotating system is brilliant! I would like to try this
Interesting using 50-50 bleach mix. Food grade sprouts usually use 20:1 bleach for cleaning equipment. I think a good seed sterlization process would be soak for 5 minutes in the bleach bath then rinse and add water.
I don’t soak the seeds in a 50/50 mix. I soak the seeds in water with a few squirts of a 50/50 mix. In total, maybe 1/4 to a 1/2 teaspoon of bleach is in the coffee can which holds about 1/2 a gallon of water with the seeds. When sprayed in the water and stirred about, you barely smell the bleach water mix. It’s just enough to kill any bacteria or fungus.
This is just Gr'888. God Bless you.
I know you might not see my comment. But how many animals does one of those flats feed a day?
All depends on the animal and what else you include. We fed dry pellet with fodder and on occasion carrot peels and cucumber pieces. Always balance a dry food with fodder so they have a good balance of vitamins and nutrients
My wife would be happy if I'd occupy our shower with trays of plants
Is there any apart barnley seeds, because here in Mautitius we don't get barnley seeds,please reply.
@@blackstorm1768 you can use maize, wheat lentils etc. Beans
Happy to water the fodder you mean, multitasking ;-)
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How many days old is the bottom tray? How often is your rotation?
no tray goes past 7 days
@@CKKnifeandTool OK thanks
When you use fodder for feeding animals, do you have to run some kind of calculation on converting how much fodder would equal how much real grain?
How do you do this without wasting grain, but not overfeeding also?
Add in your better quality food. Chickens will eat what they want. You will notice how much grain you are over feeding, so give less in accordance. Ask the chickens, not youtube.
What are you feeding? How much? How often? Do you supplement with anything else? How many animals are you feeding?
1. Chickens and rabbits
2. Approximately 4.5 oz per animal
3. Everyday
4. Yes. Chickens get corn mix and rabbits get dry grass and pellets
5. Rabbits get fed first. Up to 30 rabbits. When we have less rabbits, then chickens get the rest.
Why is there bleach being used? And what is the concentration? I'm assuming just clorox?
Hi Rick. Yes, a Clorox or off brand but no scented stuff. The amount of bleach is minuscule really. The few squirts I used came from a 50/50 or 60/40 water bleach mix to begin with. It's meant to kill off any bacterias or such that might be in the grains. if your familiar with using bleach to disinfect drinking water, this process is no different. Thanks for watching!
How do you manage rust on the metal racks?
Rust did show up but not as bad as you think. And for the price, you can replace the system later. With that said though, it would be several years before that became a concern. You could sand them and repaint to clean up and protect.
@@CKKnifeandTool or you could also try painting them with rustoleum paint before using them. That would probably help them to last a little bit longer.
Awesome video thank you. I would love to see an experiment done on your channel where you use Backing Soda instead of Bleach, I feel it might be healthier but I am unsure if it would prevent mold in this system. Thank you 💗
I used baking soda in the past as well as hydrogen peroxide but didn't get very good results. But, results vary in regions so I would never dismiss the idea for you or someone else.
What about colloidal silver instead of bleach?
Use a 0.1% potassium permanganate solution. It is safe and effective and inexpensive. It is odorless and tasteless. It is used all over the world to treat drinking water. It's used to treat fungal infections for feet at higher concentrations.