The result for Boeing was a massive improvement from the past few. The worst before their major problems was in 2016 at Farnborough where they only got service deals done with airlines and no orders placed
If we look at just the 2022 Farnborough Airshow alone (without counting the nearly 300 plane orders that Airbus received from airlines in China during the start of July), we can say that Boeing is a pretty big winner. But overall in the aviation’s industry, Boeing and Airbus are both big winners.
@@hansloyalitat9774 Actually people do, they can't keep their promises to avoid flying Boeing anymore. That been analyzed more than 2.500 daily departures and 600k revenue departures for 737 Max carrying tens....hundreds of thousands of passengers including the ones who stated they will never on one of these in social media. How disappointing.
The Post-Farnborough order numbers are good news for Boeing. I think deliveries were equally important with 51 commercial jets in June 2022, It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out after Boeing has the MAX-10 and 777-9 certified.
Boeing lost the second they said there won’t be a new MMA. With over 500 757 still flying that are closing on end of life Boeing is not going to see those sales. Some may go to the 737 but most will go to airbus.
On the surface, Boeing won the numbers game at Farnborough. But I think the numbers are all for-show and don’t reflect the reality - it’s not like some airline CEO will go to the show, kick some airplane tires and say “I’ll take 50 of those.” Negotiations and back-and-forth happen months before the air show, and then the deal is only announced at the air show. Some airlines might say that they don’t want the announcement to be made at the air show for this or that reason. It’s only a show… and there’ll be another air show in another country and another flurry of announcements and so on. I think the real measure is the end-of-year numbers and, most important, the order book.
Yeah, Boeing was on top this time. Delta would really have to explain their logic regarding the intrest in the 737-10 over the A321XLRneo because that's a little incomprehensible at the moment. Very very nice. Please keep coming out with more vlogs!!
XLR I believe has worse Cargo capacity over the MAX10. Thats the issue with the XLR, The 757 and MAX10 beat it on Cargo capacity, and when you are carrying 200+ passengers that matters.
Delta is a massive airline with many different requirements for its fleet. Transcontinental routes don't need the range of the XLR and with the Airbus being in such high demand right now, they're probably getting a great deal on the MAX.
787 Dreamliner in trouble, again. 737 MAX 10 lacking certification. Starliner a waste of NASA's (US Taxpayers') money. Complaining the new Air Force Ones are costing them too much - thank God it is a fixed price contract, because that would mean more money from US taxpayers. No answer for the mid-market - 757s will need to be replaced by A321 XLRs. I would say Boeing is still far far behind.
@@LordVader5738 The 787’s Direct competitor the A350 isn’t so much in the clear either, I mean we all know how ‘great’ the paint jobs are on the A350’s 737 MAX 10 is lacking a certificate because it’s a brand new plane… like literally less then a year old some things can’t happen instantaneously And of corse building a presidential transport aircraft is going to be expensive. Don’t try to say “Oh Boeing’s the only one having financial troubles” because the A380 and A330NEO programs went over budget and the A330NEO never broke even so Airbus (so far) has lost money on the A330neo NASA and Boeing’s star liner program is actually a huge success considering Boeing is the first commercial aircraft manufacturer to build a literal rocket (I don’t see Airbus sending stuff into space) And considering Delta airlines just went with an order of all Boeing 737’s instead of the A321’s, I’d say they’re doing just fine
@@JoePez "I don’t see Airbus sending stuff into space" .They build the ariane 5 and 6,the ATV that was resupplying the ISS and they are the one who build the service module of orion for the artemis program.
@@cle20gal my dude, the MOST Airbus has done when it comes to space is they helped design low orbit satellites. And I need to emphasize the word *helped* and *design* never built, never helped put it into orbit once it was time to launch they merely helped with the designing process and nothing more.
It's ridiculous that Britain can hold the largest airshow in the world yet not get any business for themselves as their aerospace industry barely exists except for making some wings.
Boeing probably. The 737 max 10 and 777x were BIG news. I’m not saying that the a321xlr is bad. All three planes are amazing and I can’t wait for them to be in the skies!
Questionable if the Max 10 will ever enter service. Boeing is threatening to scrap the whole project if certification doesn't happen soon. If so, a huge boon for Airbus.
@@danharold3087 Nice joke :) I know there're some reasons. I wanted to make a point Boeing's management is terrible and they keep crashing or gathering dust grounded because of their management's poor decisions.
@@abdullahunal1108 Was not joking! There were exactly 2 well explained and understood MAX crashes. This problem is history. Boeing's sales and deliveries are on the rise. Debt is on the decline. Should be even better when they can deliver MAX-10s and the 777-9.
@@danharold3087 There were 2 crashes in last 4 years that killed 346 people because of corporate greed and now it's history? That's even a better joke. :)
I feel, the winner is the one with the most deliveries. And the one, with the least "recalls!" Being on paper and being delivered are two different scenarios.
Airbus were quite on purpose at Farnborough. They knew they will get the chinese order. No biggie. They thought, let boeing run with all, we are full. Let’s see how the “winners” handle max 10 which may not fly at all or if yes, it will be with delays.
The sentiment has been that Boeing would be losing ground to Airbus on an ongoing basis and that Airbus would be basking in the sun from now on. The saga continues
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Boeing probably won because the lines in waiting for a new Airbus plane are even longer. And if you can not wait for that long, you will have to go for the Boeing.
I think the most impressive thing Boeing did, or at least their test pilot did, was taking the 777x and doing that 90 degree bank. That was crazy. You expect the pilots to show us the capabilities but was on some other level for a plane that size.
Well, ordering airplanes from Boeing just result in delays, poor quality and air crashes. I will certainly never set foot in the flying coffin that is the MAX.
I don’t understand how a crappy company as Boeing could make those sales, how can’t the world see that what matter is profit and not safety? Any way hope those max doesn’t crash anymore.
Getting orders is one thing….delivering them is another. Time will tell.
Especially with Boeing....
So glad to see more order the A220 the pride of Canada 🛩️🇨🇦
Who else is excited to see the 777-8, 777-9, 777-8F & A350F enter service?
The result for Boeing was a massive improvement from the past few. The worst before their major problems was in 2016 at Farnborough where they only got service deals done with airlines and no orders placed
Let me just say, nice work to Simple Flying on their thumbnails. They are always very eye catching!
If we look at just the 2022 Farnborough Airshow alone (without counting the nearly 300 plane orders that Airbus received from airlines in China during the start of July), we can say that Boeing is a pretty big winner. But overall in the aviation’s industry, Boeing and Airbus are both big winners.
If its Boeing we aint boarding.
@@hansloyalitat9774 Actually people do, they can't keep their promises to avoid flying Boeing anymore. That been analyzed more than 2.500 daily departures and 600k revenue departures for 737 Max carrying tens....hundreds of thousands of passengers including the ones who stated they will never on one of these in social media. How disappointing.
Aircraft industry is like the car industry just now.
You can order what you want but you ain't getting the car or plane anytime soon.
Airbus and Boeing both did insanely good. 👏
Embraer was the champion!
The Post-Farnborough order numbers are good news for Boeing. I think deliveries were equally important with 51 commercial jets in June 2022, It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out after Boeing has the MAX-10 and 777-9 certified.
Boeing lost the second they said there won’t be a new MMA. With over 500 757 still flying that are closing on end of life Boeing is not going to see those sales. Some may go to the 737 but most will go to airbus.
Which airline lost the most? Ryanair’s failure to order more aircraft pushes it further down the road before it’s going to see any new aircraft.
On the surface, Boeing won the numbers game at Farnborough. But I think the numbers are all for-show and don’t reflect the reality - it’s not like some airline CEO will go to the show, kick some airplane tires and say “I’ll take 50 of those.” Negotiations and back-and-forth happen months before the air show, and then the deal is only announced at the air show. Some airlines might say that they don’t want the announcement to be made at the air show for this or that reason. It’s only a show… and there’ll be another air show in another country and another flurry of announcements and so on. I think the real measure is the end-of-year numbers and, most important, the order book.
It wasn’t an air show without Aerosucre showing up to wow everyone.
Wow..so far so good there is no kid whos yelling like "BOEING WON" or "AIRBUS WON"
Lets keep this way
joe won
MESSERSCHMITT WON....wait, what are we talking about?
@@ThePandoraGuy joe
@@cbawitlife Joe?
@@ThePandoraGuy joe mama
Well orders is cool but lets see them actually deliver it on time or at least not delayed by years for once
Good vídeo
Yeah, Boeing was on top this time. Delta would really have to explain their logic regarding the intrest in the 737-10 over the A321XLRneo because that's a little incomprehensible at the moment. Very very nice. Please keep coming out with more vlogs!!
XLR I believe has worse Cargo capacity over the MAX10. Thats the issue with the XLR, The 757 and MAX10 beat it on Cargo capacity, and when you are carrying 200+ passengers that matters.
Perhaps Delta doesn’t need the extra range but other things fir the Max
@@mnchai1 perhaps🙂.
Delta is a massive airline with many different requirements for its fleet. Transcontinental routes don't need the range of the XLR and with the Airbus being in such high demand right now, they're probably getting a great deal on the MAX.
Delta doesn't need to explain anything. They made a business choice for their own operations.
I’m so happy to see Boeing finally getting their game back together
Did they? With all the delays and missing certifications? Safety issues? I will not put my legs in one of their newest airplanes.
787 Dreamliner in trouble, again.
737 MAX 10 lacking certification.
Starliner a waste of NASA's (US Taxpayers') money.
Complaining the new Air Force Ones are costing them too much - thank God it is a fixed price contract, because that would mean more money from US taxpayers.
No answer for the mid-market - 757s will need to be replaced by A321 XLRs.
I would say Boeing is still far far behind.
@@LordVader5738 The 787’s Direct competitor the A350 isn’t so much in the clear either, I mean we all know how ‘great’ the paint jobs are on the A350’s
737 MAX 10 is lacking a certificate because it’s a brand new plane… like literally less then a year old some things can’t happen instantaneously
And of corse building a presidential transport aircraft is going to be expensive. Don’t try to say “Oh Boeing’s the only one having financial troubles” because the A380 and A330NEO programs went over budget and the A330NEO never broke even so Airbus (so far) has lost money on the A330neo
NASA and Boeing’s star liner program is actually a huge success considering Boeing is the first commercial aircraft manufacturer to build a literal rocket (I don’t see Airbus sending stuff into space)
And considering Delta airlines just went with an order of all Boeing 737’s instead of the A321’s, I’d say they’re doing just fine
@@JoePez "I don’t see Airbus sending stuff into space" .They build the ariane 5 and 6,the ATV that was resupplying the ISS and they are the one who build the service module of orion for the artemis program.
@@cle20gal my dude, the MOST Airbus has done when it comes to space is they helped design low orbit satellites. And I need to emphasize the word *helped* and *design* never built, never helped put it into orbit once it was time to launch they merely helped with the designing process and nothing more.
It's ridiculous that Britain can hold the largest airshow in the world yet not get any business for themselves as their aerospace industry barely exists except for making some wings.
... what about Rolls?
BAE?
Isn't it true that Airbus was started as a joint venture with help from the UK government & aviation industry among others?
Boeing probably. The 737 max 10 and 777x were BIG news.
I’m not saying that the a321xlr is bad. All three planes are amazing and I can’t wait for them to be in the skies!
Questionable if the Max 10 will ever enter service. Boeing is threatening to scrap the whole project if certification doesn't happen soon. If so, a huge boon for Airbus.
@@kendalldad they're never gonna do it. They'd be the only ones damaged by that choice. It'd be like shooting themselves in the foot.
Well, I wonder how much discount did Boeing offer to get the MAX moving.
Who WON; Airbus vs Qatar???
the real winner was Cessna
Why would someone in his right mind order a Boeing when he can order Airbus?
Perhaps the fact that you don't understand is more telling :)
Because we want to stay "loyal" to boeing, every new airline is ordering Airbus aircraft as they are miles better and lots are switching
@@danharold3087 Nice joke :) I know there're some reasons. I wanted to make a point Boeing's management is terrible and they keep crashing or gathering dust grounded because of their management's poor decisions.
@@abdullahunal1108 Was not joking!
There were exactly 2 well explained and understood MAX crashes. This problem is history. Boeing's sales and deliveries are on the rise. Debt is on the decline. Should be even better when they can deliver MAX-10s and the 777-9.
@@danharold3087 There were 2 crashes in last 4 years that killed 346 people because of corporate greed and now it's history? That's even a better joke. :)
Boeing won the number of orders. I am happy about that, but they have to revamp their management.
Yes they did.
Don't forget about 40 a350 for saudi and 50 a350 for air india will be order in future
I feel, the winner is the one with the most deliveries. And the one, with the least "recalls!" Being on paper and being delivered are two different scenarios.
Note the big chinese Airbus Order befor the airshow and after the Condor over order 40 A320/A321Neo
Airbus is busy about the 292 A320neo for China.
Airbus were quite on purpose at Farnborough. They knew they will get the chinese order. No biggie. They thought, let boeing run with all, we are full. Let’s see how the “winners” handle max 10 which may not fly at all or if yes, it will be with delays.
The sentiment has been that Boeing would be losing ground to Airbus on an ongoing basis and that Airbus would be basking in the sun from now on. The saga continues
Whose sentiment ?
@@mnchai1 I have read hundreds of comments basically expressing that on aviation channels across RUclips since 2019. All you have to do is look
We will see if Boeing can pull it off by certifying the 737 MAX 10; if not, Airbus will be in the lead for a few years. A real test for Boeing.
tolle Story Boing-Fanboy!!!
Big time
Boeing just hanging on despite their 737 & 787 issues.
Boeing VS Airbus Video Topic is Awesome Yes Boeing win this year's Orders against Airbus that's a good Move for them 100% Congrats Awesome Video Simply flying keep going man nuff respect to all your Videos on Aviation man Dream Big on Aviation!!!!
Boeing probably won because the lines in waiting for a new Airbus plane are even longer. And if you can not wait for that long, you will have to go for the Boeing.
No they didn’t because they didn’t announce restarting production on the 757😜😂😂
Airbus
Boeing have been behind Airbus since the NEO forced them to rush the MAX through into production.
Not sure but one thing I miss it all sad sad I m very sad I m , hope I don’t miss it next year
🛩🟦 guess the airline
Boeing sold those MAX 10s at cost
Noooo
Why only go to farnborough? Why not go even more back in time to Dubai air show? Who won there?
😂 Ryanair needs special b737
Do you agree ?
I think the most impressive thing Boeing did, or at least their test pilot did, was taking the 777x and doing that 90 degree bank. That was crazy. You expect the pilots to show us the capabilities but was on some other level for a plane that size.
Hmmmmmnnn
That Condor plane has the FUGLIEST livery I've ever seen! It literally makes me dizzy and nauseous! I need a barf bag STAT!
Stop hating
@@hansloyalitat9774 not hating, stating a fact. I literally had to run to the bathroom to throw up when I saw that freaky livery.
@@ecclestonsangel OK KAREN
@@stickynorth whatever floats your boat.
It is pretty ugly. I never felt the need to say that about any livery until I saw that. If it's job was to get attention, it accomplished that.
If its Boeing we aint boarding.
Go pound sand
Still scared of the 737 max 😬
Boeing never will win the same as Airbus
yeah because Boeing is in a whole other league above Airbus
@@JoePez they are not above, they are below. Below sea surface and below ground in big craters
@@herceg6772 What ever you need to tell yourself to help you sleep at night
@@herceg6772 😂
England 2-1 after extra time... oh wait... different event, sorry!
Well, ordering airplanes from Boeing just result in delays, poor quality and air crashes. I will certainly never set foot in the flying coffin that is the MAX.
Boeing selling planes it can't produce becuase its 1960 design...737 Max 10. Take those orders off the books!
I don’t understand how a crappy company as Boeing could make those sales, how can’t the world see that what matter is profit and not safety? Any way hope those max doesn’t crash anymore.