Castles should be over powered. Here is why. I know it will piss people off but seriously, think about. People in the medieval times were not as stupid as one might think, they actually used everything to their advantage. A wooden castle is a lot cheaper, which means the Lord should be not as rich. Wooden castles are less defensible and easy to take. A stone castle is a lot more expensive but a lot more rare. They are harder to take due to strong walls and over all better defense. Terrain should be used to the advantage of the castle making it harder to seige. If the castle in in the plains. Make it on a motte. Cities are easy to take due to wonky wall systems. They aren't compact because they need room for residential area and the like. You can take advantage of that. But cities can sustain a larger garrison. There are definitely some ways to balance this out. Taking on richer Lord's castles with a full Garrison and equipment inside will be next to impossible. Best wait till he leaves. That is, unless you brought an entire army with you. Best to just starve him out then. Poorer Lord's are easy pickings for starting players but be careful, they aren't as easy as one might think. They still have a levy and a good castle.
Excellent analysis. This is the sort of thinking that immersive level designers take into account. We have a talented level designer on our project (similar to M&B so I won't provide a link even if people ask) and he takes all of this into account, along with natural features of the landscape such as the ridges generated by rainfall in terrain over long periods of time, the effect building has on the surrounding environment and much more. As a result our levels feel much more realistic, and are also gameplay balanced and tailored to our characters. I feel with M&B they are taking the right direction for their title, but it does compromise on the basic point of castles - they are meant to be hard to take!
Very good comment. It's been said often that 10 women in a castle could hold it against a hundred men strong force. Hence a hundred strong garrison of trained men could (and in fact, did, many times) defend against a thousand strong army. By reading books on the hundred years war, we can often read account on how armies would just go past garrisoned castles because it was much too costly to take, and would go siege cities.
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I know that, i do not have much to add to this. But i mean this sincerely. Kudos guys for this discussion. Its interesting to read.
I absolutely agree, but I would like to actually be able to starve out the defenders. In warband it was useless to wait when beseiging a castle or town cause they would hold for too long, and was instead more harmful to the attackers when you run low on food/morale yourself. I would also like the garrison to surrender more often when it makes sense. If a garrision doesn't have a lord present, is isolated from its allies and their king is not loved and about to lose the kingdom, then it would be a good time to surrender rather than fight to the death. They could take other factors into consideration as well such as the personality of the lord present, the honour/reputation of the beseiger, the strategic/economic importance of that particular castle/town, the personal relations/history between the two commanders etc.
yes! if you understand how to build a castle properly, it should be damn near impossible to take by force, that was kind of the whole point of a castle to begin with. Im hoping that whatever the devs leave out for "balance" purposes get modded in quick. the vids on sieges so far, the castles have downright idiotic flaws and it's kind of infuriating. in no particular order, no meticulations or hoardings, moats (dry or wet), drawbridges, murder holes are too big, no internal facing battlements, they have towers sectioning off parts of the wall (smart!) but... no doors on said towers (SOOOOO DUMB), no portcullises... the rest depends on how free-form the castle layout system ends up being along with the available terrain to build on.
I love it,I hope they keep up the hardwork so I might be lucky enought to buy and try Bannelord when I am retired and have some spare time from golfing
*I hope we can build castles where we want instead of building a castle next to a village...* I would make my castle fucking huuuuuuuuuge no matter the resource cost. Like having 3 levels of walls with gatehouses and oil pots etc.
Think of all the people who cant experience this game because its taking so long in development. I always think about that when games start taking ridiculous amounts of time. Some of your fans are dead now and never will get to play this.
Warwick castle would fit into the theme as it was built during the Medieval period and not post Roman period as the game is displaying, but yeah it’s a cool looking castle
i am sure that what you ment to say is that you cant wait for your grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand Children to play this game
People seem to forget castles were designed to be unbalanced and over powered. That's why a lot of 'overpowered' castles were starved out and forced to surrender etc
yup... that was the whole point of a castle, no engineer was like "hmm, maybe putting in murderholes right here would be too unfair for attackers!" or "you know what, tear those meticulations down, if they make it the walls, they deserve some cover from our archers!"
People will be waiting longer for Bannerlord to release than Jesus to return... On a positive note, the servers won't be too packed, since most of the world will be extinct by the time Bannerlord comes out :D
Hey Ironhawk there's a mysterious mod that disappeared off the internet and the guy making it disappeared to no links or any thing like that the guy make scripting for cannons and everything before warband even came out and in 2011 he disappeared of tale words he did all the armor and everything from scratch! and what makes that weirder is that some mod have content from that mod so what the hell! mod is "Death to the Renaissance"
In all seriousness, I would expect this to be released anywhere from September 2018 to April 2019, based off what is being worked on at the moment and what they've already announced complete in their dev blog.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT? DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THIS "GAME" WILL EVER BE RELEASED? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
DAS WIRD KLASSE BESTIMMT ICH SCHÄTZT DIE HABEN AUS DEN FEHLERN VON KINGDEM CROME GELERNT U MACHEN ALLES NOCH PERFEKTER ALSO ICH FREUE MICH SCHON AUF DAS SPIEL EGAL WANN ES KOMMT
So many jokes about release date...so many....original...*gags* ok I can’t say that. Unoriginal jokes! I know it’s probably because I’m kinda new to M&B an shit but I don’t see why people are struggling with waiting, I waited for the next Fallout and didn’t go “WHEN IT COMES OUT ILL BE DED EKS D EKS D” and I was disappointed. Yet with bannerlord I’m certain we not be. I’m starting to dislike this community more and more, not to mention the sever amount of...almost elitism when it comes to using shields or not, despite a shield being the obvious better choice, this last bit doesn’t apply to all of course, but there’s a ton of them that’s for damn sure,
blala mumu ? What’s your problem, someone shit in your cereal or something? Am I not allowed to complain about peoples impatience? All I’m saying is it’ll come out when it comes out, plus, the more time they spend on the game the better it’ll be, there are some exceptions (fallout 4) but given they have a base to work with (yes I know they did it from scratch) which, itself, is a stellar game so we know it’ll be a good game. Honestly, don’t be so AIDsy because I said something you didn’t like...whatever that was, you lot are the ones acting like children going “BUT I WANT IT NOW!!!” Just wait, it’ll probably come out this year or the next, that’s my guess anyways.
Child Obesityy it wasnt in a releasable state Watch the sdiege again Look at the men dying on the ladders Clunky af But they are close noe Im betting this quarter or q3
Game's coming along nicely might be out by summer of 2167 if we're lucky, I'll be a head in a jar watching my great great grand kids play it. :)
Cerio Unknown Wow, I've never heard this joke before...
Simon W.
What joke?
You plan on having children?
But seriously i think that Bannerlord is going to be realesed on beggining of 2019
Burosław 》 I believe it will be released end of 2018.
Castles should be over powered.
Here is why.
I know it will piss people off but seriously, think about. People in the medieval times were not as stupid as one might think, they actually used everything to their advantage.
A wooden castle is a lot cheaper, which means the Lord should be not as rich. Wooden castles are less defensible and easy to take.
A stone castle is a lot more expensive but a lot more rare. They are harder to take due to strong walls and over all better defense.
Terrain should be used to the advantage of the castle making it harder to seige. If the castle in in the plains. Make it on a motte.
Cities are easy to take due to wonky wall systems. They aren't compact because they need room for residential area and the like. You can take advantage of that. But cities can sustain a larger garrison.
There are definitely some ways to balance this out. Taking on richer Lord's castles with a full Garrison and equipment inside will be next to impossible. Best wait till he leaves. That is, unless you brought an entire army with you. Best to just starve him out then.
Poorer Lord's are easy pickings for starting players but be careful, they aren't as easy as one might think. They still have a levy and a good castle.
Excellent analysis. This is the sort of thinking that immersive level designers take into account. We have a talented level designer on our project (similar to M&B so I won't provide a link even if people ask) and he takes all of this into account, along with natural features of the landscape such as the ridges generated by rainfall in terrain over long periods of time, the effect building has on the surrounding environment and much more.
As a result our levels feel much more realistic, and are also gameplay balanced and tailored to our characters. I feel with M&B they are taking the right direction for their title, but it does compromise on the basic point of castles - they are meant to be hard to take!
Very good comment. It's been said often that 10 women in a castle could hold it against a hundred men strong force. Hence a hundred strong garrison of trained men could (and in fact, did, many times) defend against a thousand strong army. By reading books on the hundred years war, we can often read account on how armies would just go past garrisoned castles because it was much too costly to take, and would go siege cities.
I know that, i do not have much to add to this. But i mean this sincerely. Kudos guys for this discussion. Its interesting to read.
I absolutely agree, but I would like to actually be able to starve out the defenders. In warband it was useless to wait when beseiging a castle or town cause they would hold for too long, and was instead more harmful to the attackers when you run low on food/morale yourself.
I would also like the garrison to surrender more often when it makes sense. If a garrision doesn't have a lord present, is isolated from its allies and their king is not loved and about to lose the kingdom, then it would be a good time to surrender rather than fight to the death. They could take other factors into consideration as well such as the personality of the lord present, the honour/reputation of the beseiger, the strategic/economic importance of that particular castle/town, the personal relations/history between the two commanders etc.
yes! if you understand how to build a castle properly, it should be damn near impossible to take by force, that was kind of the whole point of a castle to begin with. Im hoping that whatever the devs leave out for "balance" purposes get modded in quick. the vids on sieges so far, the castles have downright idiotic flaws and it's kind of infuriating.
in no particular order, no meticulations or hoardings, moats (dry or wet), drawbridges, murder holes are too big, no internal facing battlements, they have towers sectioning off parts of the wall (smart!) but... no doors on said towers (SOOOOO DUMB), no portcullises... the rest depends on how free-form the castle layout system ends up being along with the available terrain to build on.
Ok guys we just need to stay calm mnb is coming out eventually... It's just a matter of decades so no need to freak out ^^
jonas.205 I so hope my grandchildren will be able to play this game.
I love it,I hope they keep up the hardwork so I might be lucky enought to buy and try Bannelord when I am retired and have some spare time from golfing
He used that siege footage for the 100th time in his videos lol
Good old banneerlord
Can’t wait to be able to play this game when I’m gonna be in heaven
U sure u going to heaven g hahaha
Hope you made it
*I hope we can build castles where we want instead of building a castle next to a village...* I would make my castle fucking huuuuuuuuuge no matter the resource cost. Like having 3 levels of walls with gatehouses and oil pots etc.
Think of all the people who cant experience this game because its taking so long in development. I always think about that when games start taking ridiculous amounts of time. Some of your fans are dead now and never will get to play this.
Banneerlord
*Great to see you back! :)*
Warwick castle would fit into the theme as it was built during the Medieval period and not post Roman period as the game is displaying, but yeah it’s a cool looking castle
We have got bannerlord release data!!!
Maybe this year...
Tiv_O〉O maybe
yes yes this year will be the year when we get the bannerlord relase date and its going to be 2222 so dont worry you will not get to play it
I feel like this game is going to be the next Half Life 3
Half life 3 was never announced, Bannerlord was announced in like 2012.
joey sharp plz no.
I honestly cant wait for Banneerlord to release :/
i am sure that what you ment to say is that you cant wait for your grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand,grand
Children to play this game
+AlexTheImpaler I bet that sounded way more funny in your head
I live real close to Warwick Castle lol
Don’t call nords Vikings, lindy beige will get mad
People seem to forget castles were designed to be unbalanced and over powered. That's why a lot of 'overpowered' castles were starved out and forced to surrender etc
yup... that was the whole point of a castle, no engineer was like "hmm, maybe putting in murderholes right here would be too unfair for attackers!" or "you know what, tear those meticulations down, if they make it the walls, they deserve some cover from our archers!"
Baneerlord?..
When will it be released ??
Heeeeelo and welcome to another millennium of waiting patiantly for bannerlords relase date
Hey brother, which is the best warband mod that overhaul graphics n features of vanila, except floris
Can't wait to go toe to toe with Jesus (or Satan :O) in the Multiplayer mode for this game.
People will be waiting longer for Bannerlord to release than Jesus to return...
On a positive note, the servers won't be too packed, since most of the world will be extinct by the time Bannerlord comes out :D
Hey Ironhawk there's a mysterious mod that disappeared off the internet and the guy making it disappeared to no links or any thing like that the guy make scripting for cannons and everything before warband even came out and in 2011 he disappeared of tale words he did all the armor and everything from scratch! and what makes that weirder is that some mod have content from that mod so what the hell! mod is "Death to the Renaissance"
Does it launch this year ??
Do you make videos on new PW ?
In all seriousness, I would expect this to be released anywhere from September 2018 to April 2019, based off what is being worked on at the moment and what they've already announced complete in their dev blog.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT?
DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THIS "GAME" WILL EVER BE RELEASED?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
after seeing gamescom I highly doubt that
DAS WIRD KLASSE BESTIMMT ICH SCHÄTZT DIE HABEN AUS DEN FEHLERN VON KINGDEM CROME GELERNT U MACHEN ALLES NOCH PERFEKTER ALSO ICH FREUE MICH SCHON AUF DAS SPIEL EGAL WANN ES KOMMT
Will this be on Xbox
On what servers are you playing?
what module is this?
(at the beginning.)
ApplePie native
Celtish culture is fascinating
Hopefully my children will play Bannerlord, or perhaps my children's children.
3:42 CELTISH?
Maybe Celt-ish. :)
He means that it should be "Celtic"
Yep, it should be Celtic.
i think my 69th incarnation is going to enjoy this title.get it? 69th.
I don't even believe in incarnation my nigga
clearly u didnt get the joke then.
Heeeeelo and welcome
I wonder, how bannerlord will be difficult to run for hw.. I hope, that i won't need new gpu :D
Target 2023
Im going for sturgians or battanians anyone else?
have news
Is it just me or does it seem that TaleWorlds is just trolling us at this point. Like they keep teasing us but not really giving us anything
💞 2 you
When is the F’in RELEASE DATE!!😡😡
NEVER
Romans mastered sige ramps, here a surviving example from the siege of Masada, just massive goo.gl/images/wFqLEF
but you did NOT master ENGRISH
Baneerlod
Can you just link the original video? I find your endless speculation and opinion tedious.
So many jokes about release date...so many....original...*gags* ok I can’t say that. Unoriginal jokes!
I know it’s probably because I’m kinda new to M&B an shit but I don’t see why people are struggling with waiting, I waited for the next Fallout and didn’t go “WHEN IT COMES OUT ILL BE DED EKS D EKS D” and I was disappointed. Yet with bannerlord I’m certain we not be. I’m starting to dislike this community more and more, not to mention the sever amount of...almost elitism when it comes to using shields or not, despite a shield being the obvious better choice, this last bit doesn’t apply to all of course, but there’s a ton of them that’s for damn sure,
Connor Quarmby nope go to sleep boy
blala mumu ? What’s your problem, someone shit in your cereal or something? Am I not allowed to complain about peoples impatience?
All I’m saying is it’ll come out when it comes out, plus, the more time they spend on the game the better it’ll be, there are some exceptions (fallout 4) but given they have a base to work with (yes I know they did it from scratch) which, itself, is a stellar game so we know it’ll be a good game.
Honestly, don’t be so AIDsy because I said something you didn’t like...whatever that was, you lot are the ones acting like children going “BUT I WANT IT NOW!!!”
Just wait, it’ll probably come out this year or the next, that’s my guess anyways.
blala mumu actually, I should thank you for proving my point, so, Thank you.
Mate the games been in development for over a decade I believe, people have reason to be impatient
Child Obesityy it wasnt in a releasable state
Watch the sdiege again
Look at the men dying on the ladders
Clunky af
But they are close noe
Im betting this quarter or q3
Love me daddy iron
*dies*