Nice video Allen, these are really good for the elderly & disabled who may not be able to reach to the back of a cupboard and turn off a old stiff stop tap. In an emergency they can turn the water off with a flick of a switch.
Great video Allen Hart they look really good for elderly people and for people who can’t turn the stop tap off properly I’m pgetting one install in my house by the council cos my main stop tap is broken and I’ve got no way in turning the water off when we have a leak but having a bit of trouble getting it install by them cos the outside main water the pump inside of that they keep saying it needs to be changed and I really liked watching this vidoe
Nice one Allen I was thinking of fitting one in my house as the stop tap is a nightmare to access without moving loads of stuff. Great info from your video as usual take care.
Another great video thanks Allen. I find the Surestops have gotten to be really expensive. 15mm lever valve now. I'll divert the pipework to the front of the cupboard if they want easier access to it.
Looked it up. You are correct to bridge the main earth bonding. Reasons given on an electrical forum (sounds double Dutch mind as electrical speak :-)) "The idea behind main protective bonding isn't primarily to ensure that all metal pipes in the house are at earth potential, it's to both lower Ze (the external earth loop impedance) and to provide an additional path to earth for the CPC for the whole installation if, for any reason, the PE connection at the incomer fails or has a high resistance. "
Earlier model wasn’t very reliable, the cables were held on with a plastic cable tie, if you had a big pressure build up (especially overnight when mains aren’t in use) they would sometimes fly off. Had a few that did that. I think the newer ones are better, as Allen said, you have to make sure they are pushed home really well. Useful for someone who can’t access their stoptap easily👍🏻
@@garyrobertson3887 I'm sure you've probably solved it by now, but I had a similar problem. A pin hole leak in the blue pipe to the switch some distance from the switch itself. Water was running through the white outer sheath and coming out at the switch. If it were mine I'd also check the obvious, blue pipe has possibly come out at switch. sure you've probably already checked this though. Disclaimer- DIYer not a plumber!
Only time I've ever had a water leak was from the Surestop valve when one of the control lines blew out overnight, came down to a flooded utility room. Been installed 12 years at that point and was non functional anyway. Hope they've been improved since then. Have now re-run the pipework to a new stop valve in a convenient location.
firstly great video , been looking at these for a while but was being a bit sheepish does it come with blu tooth or wifi ?? as men we ALL know everything is better with blu tooth or wifi
Hi, hoping you can help as I don’t know what to do. My stop cock in the kitchen is stuck and will not move so I wanted to get it changed but we have found that the stopcock in the street doesn’t turn off fully and water still comes through. We contacted the water company to ask them to fix it but they are no longer responsible for the stop cocks in the street! How can I get my stopcock working. So worried in case I have a leak !
When I started for bg we had many calls for leaking surestops that we had previously fitted a few years earlier, seemed to fail quite easily. Not sure if they've improved in the last couple years personally I won't be going out my way to install them.
There is a 22mm version available: www.toolstation.com/surestop-remote-pushfit-stopcock/p43334?store=I7&mkwid=s_dm&pcrid=515847200312&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CjwKCAjwtfqKBhBoEiwAZuesiLVQHdGE6MndH3qN25sceAFRCk-usu1GVmeNOYuagGo4AbMrLjAMBBoCBK0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
A screw in your wrist? I've got a few loose screws in my head. Thanks form your kind words, Allen. I've heard various opinions re how reliable they are and how long they last, but I can see how they can be useful for folk with disabilities.
Best thing for sure stops is leave them On the shelf’s in the merchants. We fitted loads a these but nothing but trouble now the client has pulled them of the spec
Hi Super. That’s really interesting. What issues did you have with them? is the product really bad or could some of the issues be down to the installer? Thank You.
@@AllenHart999 leaks constantly and the cable under the sink gets knocked and banged and kinked and they stop working in the end we took them all out and fitted full bore quarter turn leaver taps along with a stop tap. They were terrible mate and what made it worse we have a 6 month retention on our money so we had no choice but to keep going back to them so glad there gone now tho but some council contracts we do they do still fit them
Ive never installed one, realistacally you could have installed another stop cock or lever valve there? You've gone from 2 potential leaks (call it 3 if you include the valve head) to 6 now with this unit. I get its something different and time will tell if it holds up! Good video though
If the downstream pipe were to be MDPE equipotential bonding wouldn't be required. Depending on the configuration of the consumer unit I.e if it was full a rcd or rcbo board then again equipotential bonding is no longer required. It would be the equivalent of you cross bonding every push fit on the pipework. I guess if it makes you feel safe why not. For 18th edition IET regs and in all new builds which have MDPE downstream of the water and gas No equipotential bonding is required. 17th and amendment 3 plus CU's should all be fully RCD protected.
@@AllenHart999 Indeed,had two ,both stuck. One in kitchen corner behind the units with nae access.Forced to shut toby on the street and fitted standard stop cock. Second one easy access but done same as with first one.Aladdin much better in my opinion.Best regards
Nice video Allen, these are really good for the elderly & disabled who may not be able to reach to the back of a cupboard and turn off a old stiff stop tap. In an emergency they can turn the water off with a flick of a switch.
Hi Mark have you installed any? I agree they are very good. Thanks.
Great video Allen Hart they look really good for elderly people and for people who can’t turn the stop tap off properly I’m pgetting one install in my house by the council cos my main stop tap is broken and I’ve got no way in turning the water off when we have a leak but having a bit of trouble getting it install by them cos the outside main water the pump inside of that they keep saying it needs to be changed and I really liked watching this vidoe
Thank you for sharing some real life plumbing.
Nice one Allen I was thinking of fitting one in my house as the stop tap is a nightmare to access without moving loads of stuff. Great info from your video as usual take care.
Morning Alan. Great video. I carnt imagine doing our job without a multitool. There one of the best tools available. Take care mate ..
Definitely one of the best power tools we have. Thanks.
Another great video thanks Allen. I find the Surestops have gotten to be really expensive. 15mm lever valve now. I'll divert the pipework to the front of the cupboard if they want easier access to it.
Best idea/tip I've seen for months!
I've fitted these and have a remote one in my house, no issues and great for elderly customers
Thank You
Looked it up. You are correct to bridge the main earth bonding. Reasons given on an electrical forum (sounds double Dutch mind as electrical speak :-)) "The idea behind main protective bonding isn't primarily to ensure that all metal pipes in the house are at earth potential, it's to both lower Ze (the external earth loop impedance) and to provide an additional path to earth for the CPC for the whole installation if, for any reason, the PE connection at the incomer fails or has a high resistance. "
Thank you for the information.
Brilliant explanation for the diy plumber.
Great video as always. I've fitted 5 or 6 of these and had 1 issue where the mechanism inside the main unit failed (but didn't leak)
Earlier model wasn’t very reliable, the cables were held on with a plastic cable tie, if you had a big pressure build up (especially overnight when mains aren’t in use) they would sometimes fly off. Had a few that did that. I think the newer ones are better, as Allen said, you have to make sure they are pushed home really well. Useful for someone who can’t access their stoptap easily👍🏻
spot on , great for the elderly and disabled just for peace of mind if anything
Mines leaking from the main switch where the blue pipes come out.,any suggestions.
@@garyrobertson3887 I'm sure you've probably solved it by now, but I had a similar problem. A pin hole leak in the blue pipe to the switch some distance from the switch itself. Water was running through the white outer sheath and coming out at the switch. If it were mine I'd also check the obvious, blue pipe has possibly come out at switch. sure you've probably already checked this though.
Disclaimer- DIYer not a plumber!
@@shannonandmattsopenmic3257 thank you,ended up getting it replaced with a brass stop tap.😊
Great Allen, thank you. Wish you were local to me!
Only time I've ever had a water leak was from the Surestop valve when one of the control lines blew out overnight, came down to a flooded utility room. Been installed 12 years at that point and was non functional anyway. Hope they've been improved since then.
Have now re-run the pipework to a new stop valve in a convenient location.
Nice seeing you at phex yesterday
Hi Ash. Nice to see you buddy. Thanks.
Been using them for years, fitted one in 2006? No problems, works great especially if your stop tap is in a stupid place.
Thank You
Fitted one of these a few years back, brilliant piece of kit.
firstly great video , been looking at these for a while but was being a bit sheepish
does it come with blu tooth or wifi ?? as men we ALL know everything is better with blu tooth or wifi
I have heard you can buy a Bluetooth version but no idea why anyone would want one of them. Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 yes i checked their site and yes you can !!!! whoo hooo !! its a clever bit of kit anyway
Great video again Allen they look a great idea 👍👍
Thank You
What happens during a power cut? I presume NO water.
Could the stop tap pipe not have just been extended and the tap relocated?
Yes, I might do that in another Video. Thanks.
Hi, hoping you can help as I don’t know what to do. My stop cock in the kitchen is stuck and will not move so I wanted to get it changed but we have found that the stopcock in the street doesn’t turn off fully and water still comes through. We contacted the water company to ask them to fix it but they are no longer responsible for the stop cocks in the street! How can I get my stopcock working. So worried in case I have a leak !
Them gutters want doing haha full off weeds,great job well explained as usual.
Anyone fitted one with the istop function? Any issues?
When I started for bg we had many calls for leaking surestops that we had previously fitted a few years earlier, seemed to fail quite easily. Not sure if they've improved in the last couple years personally I won't be going out my way to install them.
Don’t say that lol. Ha Ha we will find out.
Do they work on 1/2” pipes?
I do not know the answer to that question Sorry.
There is a 22mm version available:
www.toolstation.com/surestop-remote-pushfit-stopcock/p43334?store=I7&mkwid=s_dm&pcrid=515847200312&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CjwKCAjwtfqKBhBoEiwAZuesiLVQHdGE6MndH3qN25sceAFRCk-usu1GVmeNOYuagGo4AbMrLjAMBBoCBK0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
@@rashtheplumber Have you installed the 22mm one? I have never seen one. Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 no just the 15mm but I have seen them at the merchants
That was 1/2 lol
Fitted them for bg years ago always seemed to leak after a short while but then i saw ones fitted 10 year old and customer had no issues
Thank You
Good clear video.
had one fitted at home a few years now, n issues does what it needs to :)
does the water enter the kitchen?
The cold mains comes up through the kitchen floor. Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 how do you measure how much water you use? sees no meter
@@azwsxedcr4fvtgb Well spotted. No we do not have a meter. We just paid the standard charge. Thanks.
@@azwsxedcr4fvtgb not all meters are by the stop tap. mine is at the boundary for my property in the ground.
@@AllenHart999 is it common in england?
A screw in your wrist? I've got a few loose screws in my head.
Thanks form your kind words, Allen.
I've heard various opinions re how reliable they are and how long they last, but I can see how they can be useful for folk with disabilities.
This is on my house so if we have any issues I will be sure to do a video. Thanks.
Best thing for sure stops is leave them
On the shelf’s in the merchants.
We fitted loads a these but nothing but trouble now the client has pulled them of the spec
Hi Super. That’s really interesting. What issues did you have with them? is the product really bad or could some of the issues be down to the installer? Thank You.
What issues did you have with them? Keep thinking about fitting one of these every every once in a while....
@@AllenHart999 leaks constantly and the cable under the sink gets knocked and banged and kinked and they stop working in the end we took them all out and fitted full bore quarter turn leaver taps along with a stop tap. They were terrible mate and what made it worse we have a 6 month retention on our money so we had no choice but to keep going back to them so glad there gone now tho but some council contracts we do they do still fit them
If have one installed and I think there brilliant so much easier that turning the stop tap x
Any reduction in flow rate with using this ?
I haven’t noticed any. Thanks.
what if the incoming service is mdpe.
You would put it on the copper part of the pipe. Thanks.
I have never fitted one but do have a 22mm & 15mm on van stock…… no idea why, I just carry them 😂
You need to start upselling them now lol.
id prefer a decent 15mm lever valve such as pegler / crane
great vid as normal
If they're for a customer with severe arthritis there's no chance of them reaching in a cupboard and turning the valve
I needed a quick fix for now. I will cut all the pipework out later. Thanks.
No form of backflip prevention in lever valves. However the main stopcock tap does.
Ive never installed one, realistacally you could have installed another stop cock or lever valve there? You've gone from 2 potential leaks (call it 3 if you include the valve head) to 6 now with this unit. I get its something different and time will tell if it holds up! Good video though
I am going to cut all the pipework out at some point, For now I needed a quick fix, Turning that stop tap off was a total pain. Thanks.
If the downstream pipe were to be MDPE equipotential bonding wouldn't be required. Depending on the configuration of the consumer unit I.e if it was full a rcd or rcbo board then again equipotential bonding is no longer required. It would be the equivalent of you cross bonding every push fit on the pipework. I guess if it makes you feel safe why not. For 18th edition IET regs and in all new builds which have MDPE downstream of the water and gas No equipotential bonding is required. 17th and amendment 3 plus CU's should all be fully RCD protected.
ps love the inside outside tap 😂😂
Definitely needs cutting out.
Great one
Thank You
good video
Thank You Mum.
🤘😎🤘
Thank You
I'd avoid this shite at all cost.
Very interesting comment, Have you had some issues with them? Thanks.
@@AllenHart999 Indeed,had two ,both stuck. One in kitchen corner behind the units with nae access.Forced to shut toby on the street and fitted standard stop cock. Second one easy access but done same as with first one.Aladdin much better in my opinion.Best regards
Don’t fit these, they’re cheap, nasty and they fail!
Mine is still connected and working atm. Thanks.