Piers Morgan Blasts Vegan Filmmakers Who Claim Jesus Was Vegetarian
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2024
- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by filmmakers Kip Anderson and Kameron Waters to discuss their latest documentary Christspiracy, which claims evidence has been uncovered that suggests Jesus Christ was a vegetarian.
Piers Morgan doesn't buy it - do you?
00:00 - Introduction
00:57 - Christspiracy trailer and introduction to Kip and Kameron
03:19 - "Jesus clearly ate a lot of fish"
06:15 - What was served at the Last Supper?
09:15 - "Give me ONE piece of evidence that proves Jesus was a vegetarian"
10:45 - Piers accuses Kip and Kamron of making the film to make money
12:31 - Would Jesus kill an animal?
13:53 - Piers asks Kip and Kam3ron is they eat avocadoes and almonds
17:25 - "As a Christian, how can you eat factory-farmed meat, Piers?"
19:20 - Are Kip and Kamron being hypocritical?
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Was Jesus Christ a vegetarian?
No. Jesus even ate fish after his resurrection!
Jesus lived in maloula Syria where Israel bombs and Aramaic is still spoken but Israel calls us anti semites and want to replace us for England who did the balfor declaration. Israel sends Isis in disguise who hide amongst the kurds and bomb the oldest churches and call us a dead language and anti semites despite us being semites
No he wasnt. The whole christian history from the time of jesus followers is that they were fishermdn and sheep/goat shepherds, bakers etc they ate what they made also on the move they ate what the naturevprovided. Omnivores in essence
No but he likely would in 2024
Well it probably would have been put in the commandments (I know that was the old testament but they were repeated in the new). If it was meant to be that way, would Jesus not have reiterated that point several times at least?? Or would the disciples not have reiterated the point many times too? Makes no sense that he was!
I don't think Jesus would have agreed with factory farms and slaughterhouses
most people don't agree with factory farms, the problem is there isn't a better cheaper option.
@@boy123istacken yer there is you just have to not be lazy about it and make excuses
@@johnnyman9513 I said cheaper, they wont stop factory farming unless there is a cheaper alternative.
@@boy123istacken they wont stop factory farminf until people STOP supporting it and just complain about the price but going back for more
But he allows it.
That wasn’t an interview, it was an example of how to talk over people and be totally arrogant and rude.
Yes and Morgan always does that unless you agree with him..
Too-Shay, this was an April Fool’s Joke!!!
@@ChildQLight1It wasn’t. That’s what they want you to think because the film is powerful and contains a 2000 year cover up that enormous industries and the mainstream media don’t want people to know about, so they’ve turned it into a joke.
He is always like that.
That’s his entire MO
Jesus would have been considered an extremist by today’s standards.
True!
If having compassion for animals and speaking up for them against the Church was extreme, then yes, he was an extremist. But really he was just a dedicated animal rights activist angered by innocent animals being exploited and killed to make the Church rich.
They would send him to the cross again.
Very true, in the book of Daniel he wouldn't eat meat nor drink wine, to not defile himself with portion of the king's delicaies.
(Nebuchadnezzar) Daniel ate vegetables and drank water. Their features and appearance were better and fatter in flesh, as the meat & wine gave blemish a off appearance. Can only imagine what God ate as he's holy.
@@saraiisleno7527 I was listening to a sermon about what you speak of.
This really was embarrassing for piers. Those guys were very respectful and he was such a rude POS to them.
Agree
yes but what there talking about is utter nonsence. there lucky he let them plug this bs. they knew they would get destroyed but it was worth the exposure. dont be so naive
Interesting interpretation of "destroyed"...Mainstream meat and dairy marketing is undoubtedly very deeply ingrained in the masses, yet these products are unecessary and the leading cause of species extinction, ocean dead zones and deforestation.
@@santinoalfredo390 Have you watched the documentary?
@@TenTempeh unfortunately. there just brainwashed
“I’m Against factory farms, but support them daily.” Then has the nerve to call them hypocrites. It’s immature spineless behavior.
My thoughts exactly! He admits factory farms are bad, but still supports them cause he likes meat. If he actually sourced the meat he eats from smaller family farms, even if that means eating it less often, at least it would be respectable, even though I don't think people need to eat meat at all. But at least it would be a start if people reduced how much meat they eat and only went to local small farms.
Well said.
Piers was being a complete idiot and totally disrespecting - these objectively reasonable two men
He literally said that he doesn't support factory farming. Your comment is, in your own words, immature and spineless. There is this little thing called free range meat.
He literally said that he doesn't support factory farming. What a dumb thing to say. Did you actually watch the video? or are you just judging the book by its cover? There is this little thing called free range. Also, Humans do need to eat meat, like the majority of mammals, we need to eat meat as we evolved to eat meat. Vegan foods do not have any sauces of vitamin B-12, which is one of the most important vitamins humans need. B-12 can only be found in meat and dairy products. Yes you can take supplements, however they still don't provide sufficient levels of it to keep a person healthy. Supplements can also be harmful. @@Snugs79
Piers is so pathetic and immature. All he does is avoid questions, interrupt his guests, and change the subject so he doesn't have to admit how wrong he is. It's quite sad and cringe-worthy to watch.
Morgan is a joke. Actually, he’s an arrogant gobshite.
How have you watched this and come to that conclusion. These two blokes are the strangest people I’ve ever seen and the worst thing piers has done is give them a platform to spout utter shit.
@@harrisonstock6674 some people are indeed crazy and believe obvious lies as long as it suits their world view
@@harrisonstock6674everyone with a brain watched this and came to the conclusion Sarah did
Piers is still mad about cartoon egg emojis.
As the priest said, They will stop at nothing to keep this from getting out. This world needs more compassion. And truth to be revealed. So many lies by those in power.
In what way is it ground breaking?
@@petermaclellan9977 you’ll have to see for yourself.
😂
@@user-mn9qp8iu7h See what? There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed and now we are debating what he ate? haha :-)
God also said " watch out for the two clowns on uncensored thy spread thy lies"
This guy still uses the avocados and the bees argument. What a joke.
Vegans still use the slaughterhouse argument. What a joke.
He just advocates to save the bees why dont you like bees you bee-phobe
Why you hate bees
@@Lettuce_lol If you want to save bees, go vegan.
If u want to destroy the world go vegan
Piers Morgan effectively made himself look like a fool, and you know what Jesus says about arguing with fools. Uncensored? He’s giving unhinged. He was triggered from start to end, anyone who has intelligence can see who was losing this debate….
How can he be a fool arguing with 2 men who think Jesus was real never mind if he ate meat or not 🙂
Agree.
@petermaclellan9977 There is roughly 20 times the historical documentation that Jesus existed than there is evidence for Julius Cesar. You believe in the latter but not the former. It shows a lack of intellectual integrity.
Neither side of this 'debate' made any particularly intelligent statements about their point of view.
@@TadTheTinker Thats because the bible has been re written hundreds of times by using ideas from other cultures and religions, Horus? The romans invaded Britain, Jesus never turned up for anything , how is that intellectual that you let a mythical creature over rule science? Shows how blinkered your thinking is ;-)
Piers woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I haven’t heard him stoop so low to treat his invited guests so poorly in a while. I thought he was a changed man, but he’s shown us he’s the same old rude man. I don’t agree with veganism but these men were polite and patient and tried to keep up with the questions he never let them finish.
And yet when they asked him a question he was yelling "Let me finish!"
He’s always been a tool except when he supports gun control.
"I don't agree with refraining from needlessly torturing and killing animals for taste pleasure" is what you're saying when you say you don't agree with Veganism. Something to realize. Be aware of what it is you're actually saying you disagree with.
"I don't agree with needlessly unaliving others for taste pleasure" is what you mean when you say you don't agree with Veganism.
I agree strongly. I do wonder though which came first; somebody like yourself not agreeing with veganism, or media like this suppressing the speech of those who can make a legitimate ethical case for it?
Diabolical reviews?
🏆97% (Rotten Tomatoes)
🏆8.9/10 (IMDb)
🏆96% liked this film (Google users)
Piers showing his absolute disregard for the truth right from the start of this sh1tshow.
Last time I checked, inviting filmmakers to discuss their documentary you haven't even watched, then interrupting every time they try to speak doesn't make an interview.
Exactly. Haha.
The overwhelmingly many of those reviews come from Americans and guess what? The United States is home to the largest Christian population (11.3% of the world total). And you're using that as an argument? How old are you? Religion and veganism, 2 of the worst combinations out there.
That's your evidence that Piers is dishonest? You know those reviews are mostly paid for by the filmmakers themselves, yeah? Ask for one piece of evidence and you dance around it. I bet you cant even tell me what is a woman.
There's only one critic review on RT and it's green (rotten). The rest is audience reviews and they are probably vegans.
200 reviews on imdb. Nobody is watching this. Most ratings were a symbolic 10. Making the average score useless. In the user reviews, two people give it a 1 calling it hilarious and vegan propaganda. Which is probably is.
Piers accuses these guys/vegans of being "the most self-righteous people on God's green earth." These guys are humble and they don't take Piers's bait to respond to his hostility in kind. The only person in this interview who is self righteous is Piers.
Give 1 example of where Piers was hostile?
Yeah Piers is self richeous when he apposed the the lies thee film makers were spouting. He so self richeous that he poses racism, sexism etc. Mate that's not self richeousness. Did you ever, at any point, hear the film makers say they may be mistaken? No, not even once. So by your own logic, they are the self richeous ones
@@Ibalistic_hedge Wtf dude you're so high on copium.
@@TenTempeh What's there to cope for? It's not my fault the chronically online, cry-babies on this chat thread can't accept that they are wrong. 🤣 I'm not even a Christian and I know the facts so that really shows how you how delusional this chat thread are.
@@TenTempeh Yep I'm getting second-hand high from his copium.
@@xenithsanguine lmao same here I had to quit reading the comment before getting overdosed
Every sentence interrupted. Have a conversation. Exploring possibilities doesn't mean you agree
BS. What possibilities.
@@Kela552 Careful you are showing your obvious lack of any kind of intelligence.
@@Kela552 That he can be wrong all along with what he thought. There are a Gazillion sects of Christians that has their own version of the Bible verses so at least pay attention if there are other ideas out there that might not be popular but might make sense.
1 bit of evidence?
..... nothing
Filmmakers who've spent the years interviewing theologians, Hebrew experts, historians, analysing scriptures and speaking with highly educated people who've studying Christianity and religion for decades...
Piers: "I red a bit of da bible, I'm a Chrischun, your wrong"
Piers does know how to do a proper interview, but this, this was a joke. Everyone should watch Christspiracy to find out what Piers was so afraid of.
It is a joke!!
He put them in a tricky spot, both by getting them to argue claims they never made, and by also asking them to reveal parts of the film that they want to save for people to see and experience with them (love your streams btw David, and I'm not a right winger by any means but the Lotus Eaters debate/discussion was amazing)
Precisely! 👍
Goes to proce that only an expert would entertain and defend something absurd.
The documentary was a joke😂
Most religious sages throughout history have been vegetarian. Why would this be so surprising?
Bingo
Proof please.
Got the list? Or are you just saying things you think to be true?
Its not but Piers is still mad about cartoon egg emojis.
@@poloshirtsamurai Pythagoras, Plutarch, Polemon, Daniel, Plotinus, Porphyry, Appolonius, Clement of Alexandria, Jerome of Sidon, Basil the Great, Ashoka, Parshvanatha, too many others. These contributed to a well established (sure against the mainstream) traditions around the world for millennia.
Pierce as a film critic when he does not watch the film.
Like he doesn’t have an agenda…
He says ~7:30 that he saw the film.
You can't even spell his name right.
@@Maloma12 They literally showed some of it in the video.
@@Maloma12 It's a total lie
Good job his attention to detail is as bad as yours haha
Idk why its so hard to believe that Jesus would be against needless cruelty to animals.
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@@ThatVeganTeacherRUclips Vegan tsar, the selfish ass of all.
needles killing is wrong. for food not needles. Jesus was not a vegan.
Keeping animals back then was nothing like it is today. They were their livelihood like a normal farmer's today. Not the massive slaughterhouse industry.
Mary sacrificed animals after Jesus was born, which was a Jewish tradition.
The Bible made it clear that Jesus followed Jewish traditions to the T.
Moreover Jesus is God incarnate, so he created the Circle of Life and our dependency on animals
Is this an April's fool episode?
I believe so 😂
I think so..
😂😂😂 yeah
It seems to be true alas.
I hope so...😂
Regardless if you’re a vegan, meat eater, Christian or Atheist or neither - it’s abundantly clear Piers is just plain rude and has no interest in having a genuine dialogue. In other words, he’s being his classic, arrogant self 🤦🏻♂️
You can't be serious right? The entire conversation these people went exactly like this;
Piers " have you got any evidence?"
Vegans - "no, but have you seen our film?"
20 minutes of that almost word for word
@@bennfoster5158 Yeah, I'm not vibing with either side tbh.
So he's criticizing a film he didn't even bother to watch? What a joke of a show.
No, he lied once and said he saw it, then dodged the question when it was asked again. It's plain as day Piers is lying, as usual.
Only a fool would have to see this movie to know that it's r
By hearing anything factual that is in the movie would understand it's horseshit.
But common sense would tell you that these two dudes in 2024 have discovered something heretofore unknown about a man's life who lived over 2000 years ago and whose life is documented.
THESE CHARLATANS USED THE SAME DOCUMENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SPENT LIFETIMES STUDYING AND THE THOUGHT THAT THEY FOUND EVIDENCE THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS IS THE THOUGHT OF A FOOL!
Piers wouldn't bother, he is so deeply and blindy anti vegan at this point it's his sheer stubbornness and ego that's holding him back from unbias discovery. One of the most closed minded public figures.
Why exactly should Piers waste his time and our time when his guests could not make even a prima fascia case that Jesus was, in fact, a vegan. This generation, in its search for relevance, acts as though they are the first people to ever come across these issues, giving no credit to prior generations who have exhaustively dealt with these issues previously. When this generation's parents told them all their lives how brilliant they are, apparently they took them seriously.
So Piers said that he believes that Jesus would slit the throat of a baby lamb to eat but then later won't stop interrupting about how Jesus would save the tiny bees. 🤔
Bc humans don't eat bees, however, we do eat lamb. Is Common sense really that hard to use?
@@Ibalistic_hedge Common sense and religion dont mix haha
What about when Jesus killed thousands of birds to show a point lol have you guys even read the bible or are you all pretending.
@@Ibalistic_hedge This Piers guy seems to think bees should be protected from agricultural practices. Let's stop killing bees with pesticides and herbicides.
@@Ibalistic_hedgepiers is accusing them for eating fruits and nuts, not for "eating bees"
Christspiracy was the best documentary I've ever seen. Thank you Kip Anderson for doing this interview with this horrible man.
There’s not much I can’t watch, but I CANNOT watch this cretin shouting at animal activists and vegans anymore. I just came to the comments to support the documentary!
where did you see it?
I saw it in USA on March 24th as part of their theater release through Tralfagar @danzwku
Jesus was not of the tribe of Levi, he would have to bring animals to sacrifice to the temple.
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I wasn’t initially convinced but I’m going to give Christpiracy a shot now, these two handled themselves well
I’m still convinced Piers Morgan is the pigeon lady from Home Alone 2. You cannot tell me otherwise.
LOLOLOLOL. 😂😂😂
Hahahhahaha yes!!!!
Had to check that out, definitely correct.
LOL😂😂. Thank you for that comment; it has made my day. lol😂
this is not the uncensored, it is the unbearable... what would be the problem to let them talk?
They're spewing nonsense maybe thats why?
this is what happens when he brings people on that he actually disagrees with.
@@hqs7853 then don't desperately speak over them, let them speak their points then show their level of idiocy with your own. If you keep talking over them you just look close minded and bigoted.
Exactly. He did not let them finish a single sentence.
They didn't get to finish a single sentence before that bully interrupted. That's how you know someone has weak arguments. Their documentary is very compelling. Is it true, we will never know. It's for open minded people.
Here is my review of Christspiracy. I am a Christian and grew up in church.
A powerful, emotional, and sobering look at how the major world religions view animal ethics.
WWJD? Well, you might be surprised! Could he have been even more compassionate than we thought?
As a Christian I found this film wasn’t bashing Christianity or religion but it does shine a light on the total disregard many Christians have for animals directly or indirectly in the name of religion and how some twist scripture to fit traditions and desires.
A key part of the film is how it recontextualizes the temple sacrifice scene in the Bible with Jesus by contrasting it with things that are happening today. They don’t twist scripture to make their points. They do uncover a mistranslation in the Bible that is shocking and sure to spark A LOT of debate. Was his sacrifice solely because he was upset at money changers?
I’m hoping hearts and minds are affected, resulting in a wave of compassion and consideration for ALL creation.
1 Corinthians 8:13
13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.
Romans 14:21
21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.
Psalm 14:1-4 The Lord looks down from heaven on the children of man, to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God…They have all turned aside; together they have become corrupt…Have they no knowledge, all the evildoers who EAT UP My poeple like they they eat bread…
Isaiah 66:3
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man;
Ecclesiastes 4:5
The fool folds his hands and eats his own flesh…
“ Ecclesiastes 3:18
I also said to myself, “As for humans, God tests them so that they may see that they are like the animals.
Love the review and your open mind
@@rileyrearden7883thank you. 🙏🏼
@esexabyss this must be taken in context. The meat here is food that people before they became Christians, was food associated with false gods and idol worship, and because eating it would cause the new believer to be weak and fall back to this false worship, the strong believer, who knew there was nothing wrong with eating it, would refrain to help the weak believer
God gave us permission to eat meat and even demanded animal sacrifices.
Its unsettling how angry Piers seems to be at the idea that eating meat is bad. I feel like eating meat is a weird cult, because whenever someone says maybe you shouldn't do it for a plethora of reasons meat eaters get really angry.
Veganism itself seems like a cult
Piers is still mad about cartoon egg emojis.
Piers Morgan wasn't himself, his desire in meat was talking..
Agree.
Lol, you guys are the ones in a cult. Vegans get far angrier at people who eat meat than the inverse. I've got friends who are vegan, good for them, it's never bothered me; the difference is that they don't go around attacking everyone who isn't.
So two guys come on your show who have invested many years into creating a documentary and talking to non-vegan theologians and experts on this topic from all over the world, and you don't even have the decency to let them finish a sentence and let them make their point. Repeating the same question when they have responded to it the first time you asked was embarrassing too. Thanks for showing who were the sensible ones in this conversation. Very rude treatment of them altogether, but because it was such an utter trainwreck of an interview I did find it very entertaining. A rambling boomer who did not even watch Christspiracy versus two very eloquent, genuine and down to earth documentary makers. Keep them coming, Piers - your conversations with vegans are doing the vegan cause a massive solid!
Piers, you're an absolute child. Appalling way to treat these young men.
Someone needs to get him a binky and a nap! But he’s a milk drinker so he shows us he’s a baby (cow). 😢
1 bit of evidence?
..... nothing
These are not young men. They are middle aged.
How many more false claims and statements are you going to make?
Complete morons and there not young!
They interrupted him over and over too so you can't just point the finger at piers. Also, these ppl aren't worth listening to since they are full of bs, so the way he "treated" them was justified. And he didn't treat them badly anyway.
Horrific style of questioning. Worse than Don Lemon.
Beacuse he wants evidence for what the filmakers claim? Shocking.
If this was an important issue that Jesus backed and promoted, do you not think it would be much clearer that it was wrong?
@elchucho_themutt How?
@@cameronestrada2857 Well it could have been put in the commandments (I know that was the old testament but they were repeated in the new). If it was meant to be that way, would Jesus not have reiterated that point several times at least?? Or would the disciples not have reiterated the point many times too?
@@alibrennan6020 I'm with you champ. My "how?" Was directed to the guy who said this line of questioning was horrific.
This film is groundbreaking, but regardless of him not agreeing with his guests’ approach, they deserve respect. Bully narcissistic he is.
Piers Morgan: "I haven't watched the film which provides the evidence but I know that your film is wrong because you haven't answered my incorrect question"
Since Mr. Morgan is a Christian, I guess I'd ask him this: If a Christian has a choice of food created from animal abuse or compassion, Shouldn’t a Christian always choose compassion?
He isn't a Christian. He i a bully and a bigot. His claiming to be a Christian is bizarre.
You just make up the abuse part. Not every meat comes from abuse
@@Adam20672 vulture culture eats road kill
He's not Christian. He doesn't understand that word either. He's ignorant. He's rude. He's an ass, but he isn't Christian. Nothing about him would indicate he's a follower of Christ. He loves only his own voice.
Vegans are delusional 😅 Jesus is Vegan 😅
This is deflecting. This is “I won because I was louder” vibes. This is “I don’t want to hear anything because i will not change for anyone”.
Just want to say that film was incredible and life changing . Thanks guys for the efforts you put into this film !
I can’t bring myself to listen to Pier’s vile defence of animal cruelty. I just came to the comments to support Christspiracy!
absolutely
where did you watch it?
Kip: *"What's so bad about Jesus being vegeterian?"*
Piers: *"Do you condemn Hummus?"*
Kip: *"Of cou... what?"*
Piers: *"Answer the question!"*
Why would they condemn hummus, it's a delicious plant based dip.
Haha 😂 exactly that
I see what you did there 😉
Funniest reply yet. Well done 👏
I didn’t realise you had to be vegan to eat avocados and almonds 🤔
No one said that.
No one said that.
@@Ibalistic_hedge the percentage of people who’re vegans is very small so meat eaters obviously eat the majority of avocados and almonds. Piers speaks as if it’s all vegans eating these products
@@JD-jg2hm even if only 1 percent of ppl were vegan, for example, that's still a lot of ppl. And the amount of vegans is growing bc of the brainwashing that unfortunately, ppl are very susceptible to these days. It only takes 1 person cause huge amounts of damage. And the space needed to grow the extra avocado's etc is destroying habitats which kills aninals, which thet are supposed to be against. They're just hypocrites. The vegan diet is worse for (and this has been proven) for humans and the environment than the regular diet.
I think his twisted logic is that it's fine that meat eaters eat avocados and almonds because they aren't claiming to be compassionate therefore they aren't hypocrites. Still, I think the same thing every time he says that to a vegan.
Piers never let any of his guests speak if they have a different ideology then him
They had nothing to say of any importance. My question is why they were ever invited on the show to begin with.
@@sherryford667 so piers can humiliate them. Vegans take it so the message can still be spread of animal liberation. But it's very hard . He was supposed to air this interview before the Palm Sunday March 24th , the last day of the movie in US theaters. He said he wanted to promote the film , instead he held the interview to be released on 1st of April or commonly known as April Fools. That tells you he is a veganphobic person. Vegans just want animals to be free of harm and stop being treated as commodities. Vegans don't want people to look at animals like they are dolls and pursers and belts they can buy at the store. They are sentient beings. They feel pain and suffer just like we do.
Actually his ever-returning guest James is the one that never lets anybody talk
Ask yourself-"would it be a debate if his ideologies and opinions were the same"? Both sides make it interesting viewing.
It is interesting that James the Just, Yeshuas brother and the leader of the early church, was a well known vegetarian. God also ordained that man eat a vegetarian diet in the Garden of Eden, and that in the future the lion will lay with the lamb. That means the ideal of God is peace and harmony of all beings.
I have tried to explain this to so many "believers", but every one of them responds exactly the same as Piers Morgan... "But I like meat!" Too bad they don't save any room for compassion in their religion.
1 Corinthians 8:13
13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall.
Romans 14:21
21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.
Psalm 14:1-4 The Lord looks down from heaven on the children of man, to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God…They have all turned aside; together they have become corrupt…Have they no knowledge, all the evildoers who EAT UP My poeple like they they eat bread…
Isaiah 66:3
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man;
Ecclesiastes 4:5
The fool folds his hands and eats his own flesh…
“ Ecclesiastes 3:18
I also said to myself, “As for humans, God tests them so that they may see that they are like the animals.
Amen!
Feed a lion an all vegetarian diet, see how long it lasts. He may mean all creatures to co-exist in the end, but he sure did put a lot of biological barriers to prevent this in the short term.
"On earth as it is in heaven." It begins with us.@@3rdEyeWide
Talks, behaves, and sounds like a worldly minded person yet claims he's a Christian and then you have these two gentlemen showing Christ like behavior dealing with Piers..who will intelligent people hear out more?
'The whole thing is based on spurious pretext for which you have zero evidence and are just trying to make money' - piers with the most accurate summation of organised religion ever.
Jesus himself would not be able to persuade Piers Morgan.
hahahahahahahahahah
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He would bc Jesus only told the truth and Piers would have listened to that. However, these film makers are full of shit, so piers isn't gonna listen to them.
Piers sucks at debating. He should’ve had a guest debate the vegans instead.
1 bit of evidence?
..... nothing
Wish I was a million behind him 😂. He's a master debator 😂
Piers got hit with a comment that he didn’t like or felt comfortable addressing about himself so he stopped the interview. In Jesse Lee Peterson’s slang, he ran.
So glad that Piers Morgan is unintentionally promoting this movie. He is so up his own arse
I’m a reluctant meat eater, and I found the "how would Jesus kill an animal?" question quite compelling tbh🤔
It's good that you're open minded :) .. if we can live happy healthy lives without hurting anyone why wouldn't we?
We're all reluctant meat eaters, because we have good morals deep inside us. You're a compassionate person!
If you need help going vegan let me know! Would be happy to help you become more morally consistent.
@@martinfernandez882If you need help going vegan let me know! Would be happy to help you become more morally consistent.
Watch how animals are slaughtered and then think about that next time you're shopping for food. It's a good trick to motivate yourself to live by your values.
I think Piers was stung to many times by bees. His brain if fried
😂
It seems the film makers brains are frazzled.
Hilarious!
@@Ibalistic_hedge this comment is BIG irony, my boy 😂
Many ND Experiencers report back to us that they’ve asked Jesus and God about meat-eating and they say that it doesn’t matter what we choose to eat. It’s a personal choice.
Piers, you do yourself a disservice insulting your guests. By the way you conduct the interview it is plainly obvious that you are not interested at all in what they have to say and you haven't got the slightest intention to ponder on what they say. On top of this obviously you didn't even watch the film before conducting the interview...
And gosh.. your last comment is absolutely childish.
Kip and Cam deserve a more serious and educated interviewer.
To be honest: Would Jesus kill an animal? That's a good question.
Yeah
Difference between slaughter and Murder , literally why we have multiple terms for what ignorant people think is always the same .
Well his Father would...animal sacrifice.
Yes
No because thou shalt not murder.
Morgan is such an utter jerk. Did he let either of his "guests" finish a sentence? And where does he get off being so appallingly rude??
These guys did great. People get so defensive when talking about their meat…
Piers did everything to avoid answering the questions.
Why did Piers keep interrupting? It's perfectly reasonable to me that a word - fish - could have been mistranslated. I'll never understand why some people think Bible publishers are infallible.
No, fish could not have been mistranslated. It's too short to have been.
@@Ibalistic_hedgeAh, fish, the other four-letter word.
@@terrymcnulty????
@@Ibalistic_hedge Translators always need to take some liberties when translating. The producers claimed that at some part where the english translation uses fish, that word isn't even used in the Hebrew or Greek version. I can't comment on the validity of that statement, but it isn't far-fetched to think that a translator made some reasonable assumptions that might not be correct.
@@Ermude10 What food can be mistranslated into fish?
Everyone gets figity when you think of christ killing a lamb
You can kill your son to prove love, but you can't kill the animals to survive? To me, that is insane thinking.
I certainly don't get figity.
hahahahahah
@@andreajohnson7955To survive maybe, as jesus gave fish to the malnourished. However we aren't in a survival situation and the nutritional science on the efficacy of plant based diets gets clearer every year.
The garden of Eden had no scarcity, and for that reason it was vegan. When we have the choice between killing and not killing the better of the two options is obvious
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You can kill your son to prove love, but you can't kill the animals to survive? To me, that is insane thinking.
Piers' take on "Christspiracy" raises some interesting points about veganism. While social pressures and controversy can certainly influence opinions, it's worth considering the core reasons why people go vegan. There's a growing body of evidence showing that a vegan diet can significantly reduce animal suffering, lessen the environmental impact of food production, and even offer health benefits.
Now, of course, no approach is perfect. Vegans themselves will acknowledge that discussions often pop up around specific foods, like avocados or almonds. Here, it's about making informed choices. Sourcing organic, responsibly grown avocados as an occasional treat can help minimize their environmental footprint, especially in Europe where regulations might be stricter. Similarly, opting for Spanish almonds over Californian ones, or choosing them as a treat instead of a daily staple, can address concerns about bee populations.
Speaking of bees, it's fascinating to note the role they play in our food system. Many crops used for animal feed, like alfalfa, rely heavily on bee pollination. This highlights an interesting irony: some critiques of vegans consuming almonds often come from those who enjoy dairy products. The reality is, those cows are often fed crops pollinated by commercially farmed bees facing similar challenges. Their needs, and the potential for a mass decline in bee populations, should be a concern for everyone.
Factory farming practices can contribute to these challenges. Forcing bees onto monoculture crops deprives them of diverse pollen sources and stresses them with constant movement. Additionally, neonicotinoid pesticides, which are systemic and can harm bees, pose a significant threat.
The water usage argument against veganism is another interesting one. While some crops like almonds require water, studies suggest that the water footprint of animal agriculture is significantly higher. Consider the research by Non-profit Food & Water Watch, which estimates that a staggering 142 million gallons of water are needed daily to maintain just the 1.7 million cows living on mega-dairy farms in California alone. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. As Bloomberg columnist Justin Fox aptly points out, "cows suck up more water than almonds!" The amount the animals drink is far exceeded by the billions of gallons needed annually to irrigate pastureland and water-intensive feed crops like alfalfa.
I have seen the film and it is captivating and mind-blowing. Most people in the comment section are not going to understand until they see it.
I've seen the movie and agree with you totally! The thing with Piers is he won't let them have their say, which I assume is because he disagrees with their view. It makes for an unfair debate every time he interviews a vegan it's the same.
@@robynatkins1679 The most frustrating part is that he doesn't even know what their views are. He's just projecting what he thinks their views are. And he makes absolutely zero effort of trying to find out and goes all in on arguing against a strawman.
Wonder why churches are so empty. What a mess.
what country are you from? churches are far from empty and I’m in ‘secular’ UK
what
May God guide you all to Islam
@@kazdara4878
Worse than cannibalism IMO
@@sTraYa249 support your opinion with facts. Sorry but you won't find any
Here is when Piers lost the debate: at 17:37 (time in the original video)
Kameron : Piers, you are a very sweet guy and I think you are an awesome person, I know you love your cats and I think is in your heart, I know you are against factory farming and you still consume factory farm animals. Why do you do that?
Piers : I like meat, what can I tell you?
I: “Taste pleasure” is not a valid moral argument to kill someone.
There is no valid moral justification for exploiting and killing innocent animals for food when we know we can be healthy with well planned vegan diets.
I’m surprised this video is still posted - how has Piers’ team not taken it down to try and save face? The Producers of the movie say: “We’re not claiming Jesus was a vegetarian.” Piers immediately responds: “You’re claiming Jesus was a vegetarian!” Then the Producer asks him what was served at the last supper - and Piers didn’t even know the answer is the Eucharist!! And he claims to be a Catholic!?🤦♂️
Can’t imagine someone as compassionate as JC, would have blood on his hands!
... and someone as passionate as Jesus not to speak up for innocent animals he sees being exploited and killed by the Church!!!!
You drink the blood of christ in church I can believe it :-)
@@petermaclellan9977technically it’s supposed to represent the sacrifice itself. You realize it’s not actually blood right?
@@petermaclellan9977 ahh, you haven't seen the movie then. Go see it and you'll be so glad you did.
@@Charlie08079 Yeah im taking the piss, its red wine to get the alter boys pissed so they can abuse them later ;-)
Piers started with his usual avocados gotcha, and no matter how much the guest explained that he doesn't eat avocados from big industry that kills of bees, he just kept repeating "why do you keep eating avocados that kill off those bees?" Refused to process a word of his guest's answer.
And Piers said that he believes Jesus would slit the throat of a lamb but would save the lives of the bees. 🤔
The other crazy thing about the billions of bees he accused vegans of murdering, I wonder how many bees per avocado or per calorie are killed compared to the calories from a slaughtered and likely abused animal?
The other factor is what Kip alluded to, if the ratio is bad we can explore Veganic options like making non-exploitive beekeeping part of growing the plants insitu, alternatives to pesticides, and appropriate quarantine of varrower mites that kill bees in transport from honey farms as Joey Carbstrong suggests is the largest contributor of their deaths.
Piers thought he made a point with the avocados and he looked dumb because he just disregarded everything they were saying in response.
Weak attempt of Piers with his "gotcha questions"
He doesn't want to hear their perspectives, just want quick answers from them and make a giant monolog
God is suppose to be about love and peace and not killing!
I remember eating meat up to the age of 12, and how hard it was to take a shit.
Unfollowing today. No longer want to hear what Piers has to say anymore. He's a part of the problem.
Piers always resorts to talking over others when he's confronted with decent arguments and answers. It feels like a form of censorship. However, I still think they manage to get their points across, regardless of whether one agrees with them.
Or when confronted with nonsense😂
@@222lanna You’d rather dismiss it as nonsense so that you can keep chewing, rather than use critical thinking and actually watch the film?
@@222lanna the whole story of Jesus is arguably nonsense. I don't even care. The point is that he should let his guests speak.
@@222lanna They didn't even claim anything about Jesus. They were claiming that many parts of the bible seems mistranslated and were entertaining the question of who Jesus was and what his values were in light of this.
As a journalist myself I find it disturbing that Piers would conduct an interview about a film when he hasnt even seen the film beforehand. Whether you agree or not - watch the film before getting into a debate about it. Journalism 101
piers hates anyone that doesnt devour lambs chops like the ones stuck in his many chins..
Jesus would definitely be against cruelty to animals but He DID understand that some die so others can live.
He was the ULTIMATE example of this.
Regular sacrifice of animals was part of life at that time and He tacitly condoned it by not only accepting it happened but being the culminating sacrifice
I don't think any of the other examples were vegans either bc it's nearly impossible to be vegan without modern day supplements.
The Bible is sketchy on a LOT of things but that doesn't mean it never happened
Last time i checked it never discussed anyones bowel habits but I'm pretty sure people still used the bathroom regularly
I think Jesus would be much more concerned about the countless babies slaughtered in the womb each year than eating vegi burgers! Plus he ate fish!!!
Why would he... he wouldn't choose one or the other, but be compassionate with all sentient beings.
@@RodKruz he cast 200 demons into a herd of pigs off a cliff to save 1 man, I don’t think he had sentient beings in mind then 🤣
@@siminamann1275 well, the bible is full with contradictions. He's compassionate in some passages and not so much in others.
@@RodKruz Or he, just like most humans on the planet simply doesn't believe in your pro-vegan beliefs you label as 'compassion'.
My Christian friend became vegan, and now believes Jesus was a vegan
Well then they haven’t read the bible lol
He's an idiot then isn't he?
How very 2024.
Nonsense
Delusional
Jesus did not support animal torture fact 😢
Do you support abortion?
People who eat meat are not advocating for animal torture. That's a strawman and you're disingenuous.
@@andrewjmp3494 They pay for it
@@andrewjmp3494 They pay for animal torture, therefore support it.
When you buy a product that came from an exploited animal, you are responsible for everything that happened to that individual in their short, miserable life. They were only in that situation for your money. Therefore in making that transaction, you are culpable.
Animal torture is a totally different subject from humane slaughter for human diet. Torture of a living being is immoral, so I would likely agree that factory farming and slaughter houses are probably immoral. That's why the Jews feel "kosher" is so important---an animal gets slaughtered without pain.
We all project ourselves onto our favorite invisible friend. “I don’t eat meat, because it is bad for animals, so Jeebus wouldn’t do it either!”
I eat meat and am heterosexual, so Jeezus must be like me!”
Etc.
Jesus ate bread and fish, John the Baptist ate locust and wild honey and wore clothes of animal skin
As a Christian, I am sick of people taking the message of Christ out of context to support whatever their political views are. Jesus Christ came so we may have eternal life, not to support a a side in whatever dumb political debate we're having.
Says the guy who then claim Christ came to give us eternal life.
Atheists are trying to rewrite the Bible. If people would just read it, it would be clear how much they are lying. The Bible literally tells us what meats are okay to eat and not and even what ones to sacrifice.
Me too dear, me too! 🙏 amen 🙏
@@vintageplanet9376
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." John 3:16
"The thief come only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:10
"And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son." 1 John 5:11
"For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day." John 6:40
"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
There is a lot more than just these.
@@vintageplanet9376
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." John 3:16
"The thief come only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." John 10:10
"And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son." 1 John 5:11
"For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day." John 6:40
"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
There is a lot more than just these.
Matthew 15:11 ("it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person"
Amen! Tell this to the Jews! Their kosher butcher's too ...tell this to these guys! Animals suffer with kosher butchering!!!!
Unless it's c**k
10 chapters back is Matthew 5:11. Q1 - What's wrong w/ my unpopular view? Israel 🇮🇱 is a hero and is freeing Palestine 🇵🇸 from Hamas by doing the exact opposite of the g word everyone accused Israel of - Israel is actually the saviour of the Palestinians.
Q2 - Where can I find someone else who's actually said this before? Many pro-Israel agree with me, but they haven't seen anyone before me.
Matthew 5:11
People argue if Israel is or isn't committing genocide, but I've never seen anyone argue that Israel is doing the exact OPPOSITE of genocide. So, well, I could be wrong.
Israel won the 3rd arab war in 6 days, yet Hamas hasn't been beaten after months. I read if Israel didn't care about civilian casualties, even if they didn't nuke, then this war would've been over in weeks with hundreds of thousands in casualties.
In the 1st Arab war, the Arabs were supposed to be the saviour of the (Arab) Palestinians from the evil UN partition plan. Now Israel is saving the Palestinians from the evil UN that votes for a ceasefire. Looks like Israel has done a better job of saving Palestinians in the last few months than the Arabs did in the last 75 years.
Israel saves the Palestinians
- politically from a dictatorial regime that steals from them and
- morally by dropping leaflets & providing aid & corridors which the ww2 allies never did in Dresden.
Despite all the baseless accusations, the deaths incurred that they see on a daily basis and the ceasefire calls, Israel still perseveres in the prosecution of this war to defend not just Jews but Arabs and still provides aid instead of being spiteful like 'Oh you think we're evil after all the aid we've provided? Ok let's see how you like it when we turn off the aid.'
Note:
- Israel is condemned despite giving aid to the FOREIGN Palestinians.
- No one cares when Hamas steals aid from its OWN people!
I wonder if this magnanimity goes beyond Judaism. I don't recall anything as explicit as this in the old testament. Like Jesus takes a step further to say 'love your enemies.' Israel has no obligation to save the Palestinians who voted Hamas into power. Yet Israel does!
I think this view might be unpopular because unfortunately Israel doesn't have that many vocal defenders who are non-Israeli & gentile, so Israel is just humbly saying as a matter of fact that they're not committing war crimes. They can't say further because if an Israeli or a Jew says so then it sounds arrogant (maybe like Numbers 12:3 if Numbers was written by Moses) - Israel is actually a SAVIOUR/HERO of the Palestinians - the exact OPPOSITE of a war criminal.
Israel saves despite being reviled. This is exactly what Jesus did! Jews are more Christian than Christians! I mean look what Pope Francis has said and even HASN'T said about this situation. Disappointing. Tsk tsk.
You'd think Pope Francis, who's read the new testament a million times while the Jews haven't, would bring this up but nada.
Or if anyone's already seen a view like this then please tell me where I can read about it.
Happy Easter, Ramadan and Passover!
@@nicbentulan Saving them? So killing their children and their woman and reducing all their homes to rubble, is now supposed to be looked at as a favour? Something is wrong with your head if you can somehow twist all that into something positive. Are you a Christian?
@@nicbentulan I'm not for or against i rather remain neutral, but one question that pops up is would it not be too obvious and unwise just to nuke Gaza knowing all would shout genocide, so the best way is exactly how its being carried out already to make it look more justified?.
also the bible says vengeance is mine says the lord so if your faith is real why not just wait on Gods judgment day and just step up security instead?. Deuteronomy 32:35. Romans 12:17-19.
I can't believe that he's treating these guys so poorly. He hasn't given them one moment to respond!!
What is in the dark most comes to the light. Just the same way they portrayed him to be European and mad pictures of Him of being caucasian and everyone believe it. The same way they added to confessed your sin to a priest and he the representative of God. If you concord you own the history.
Piers vs Vegans is a never ending saga.
True. So pathetic his only debate is about avocados and almonds. Especially since we apparently right now in the US where most of the avocados and almonds come from currently have record numbers of bees!
Piers shouting down anyone else, you mean.
LEARN TO MAKE INTERVIEWS, WATCH THE FILM YOU ARE INTERVIEWING THE DIRECTORS ABOUT AND TRY HAVING REAL INFORMATION TO COUNTERARGUMENT WITH.
In animistic religions nature and animals were revered and seen as our brothers and sisters. A spirituality that includes all life is missing in the Bible. For example it would be natural that animals and nature would be mentioned in the commandments. All animals have spirit and nature is sacred. As late as the 19th century timber men in Bavaria said a prayer when cutting down a tree. This goes back to the time when the germanic tribes lived in great forests and spirit was everywhere and nature was sacred. These guys here have a point absolutely.
So lovely that Piers never interrupts his guests. He is always so interested to hear what people have to say!
After his resurrection, in Luke 24:42-43, he consumed broiled fish to demonstrate that he was real and not a ghost.
Amen!!!!!!! 🙏🏼🙌🏼
Amen 🙏🏾
After his resurrection, in Luke 24:42-43, he consumed every lamb his bolt gun could hit to demonstrate that he was real and not a ghost.
He wasn't resurrected. That didn't actually happen.
Amen, was thinking this when I saw the title.
Everyone going on about eating meat but tell them the meal is a dog or cat & they lose their sh*it.
God doesn’t command anyone to spill blood. Eden was vegan ❤️
12:39, lol, Piers complaining for being interrupted and not being allowed to complete his answer. The irony…
Dont forget to take your B12 suppliments, Shiitake mushrooms, fortified yeast spread, and other fortified foods, etc
??? Tell me you know nothing about nutrition without telling me you know nothing about nutrition. In fact, the animals are supplemented with b12.
Man i hate it when April's fool jokes are 20 minutes long.
It’s real. The documentary is real.
Why bring guests on then don't let them talk
LMAO
I am not going to last that long 😂
if you read the bible, it heavily prescribes animal foods , god also required his prophets such as moses, to kill cattle and burn the whole thing on a fire as a burnt offering to god.. the bible tells us veganism is the doctrine of devils..
1 Timothy 4
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
These gentlemen are far too patient with Piers.
Wouldn't it be much more interesting if Piers understood what veganism is about and why it is very consistent with Christian philosophy?
So true
I've seen cowspiracy, what the health, & seaspiracy, so I knew I wanted to see this one , although I am not religious. I wasn't vegan going into the theater. I walked out one (again). I don't follow or practice religion. However, I am aware there are truths in everything. This also isn't the first time I heard Jesus was a vegan. I knew they would get a lot of backlash for this. I guess this Piers guy is getting it going. Although I don't agree with how he interviews, I am glad there is a platform for people to speak , even and maybe especially, if there are conflicting perspectives. Discussion is so important.
He literally fed masses with a fish, right?
So he was pescatarian? 😂
I think we don't know but unlikely.. he would have followed the Jewish food laws at the time being a Jew
(Reply to the second comment)
well magic isn't real, but in the story he magically made dead fish appear, which is different from actually killing a fish, which is the main issue vegans have a problem with
@@Aiel-Necromancer no he didn't
@@Aiel-Necromancer if you actually believe the nonsense.
Just watch the film and make your own mind up about whether YOU can morally justify not being vegan.
It's easy.
Livestock are food.
You use animal products from the same animals.
Maybe tell us how you morally justify it.
@@SteversChedSaying that livestock is food is like saying slaves are assets. It doesn't mean anything.
@@RodKruz That's appealing to emotions.
If you can only make an argument by humanizing livestock then you don't have one in the first place.
Why do you use animal products needlessly while only pretending to be against it?
@@SteversChed
Humans were considered assets, that's a fact. Slaves didn't have rights, so their owners could do whatever they wanted with them, just as you see non-human animals.
@@RodKruz Still appealing to emotion and won't answer the question?
Thanks for the easy win and your concession.
I know a guy named Jesus (pronounced Hay-Zeus) who works in factory farming. He's the only Jesus I've ever met personally.
The Passover required the eating of a lamb until Jesus was crucified on that very day. He demonstrated what was to be done in future with the bread and wine as it was no longer necessary to kill a lamb because the real Lamb of God was sacrificed. Feast of unleavrned bread begins the day after Passover. These two say they're Christians but they deny God.
It is getting hilarious how the only weapons Piers have against vegans are his avocados&bees argument and talking over them. Anyway this is my review on Christspiracy, after seeing it (twice):
Comedy, drama, information and revealing hidden truths - a perfect package! I had high expectations as well as some suspicion for this film, as I am not a religious person (used to be). I was not sure if this documentary would be interesting to me... After the first watch I was blown away, with so much new information and new thoughts in my mind. I immediately felt like I need to see the film again.
I feel like there is something, or actually several things, for everyone in this movie, and it needs to be seen by everyone!
Thanks you both for your patience during this horrible interview. 💪
Can't wait for: "Do you eat avocados and condemn Hamas?"
Kip and Kameron are the perfect names for the producers of this movie